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You left out corruption/graft/exploitation and gringo pricing! For me that is a bigger negative than the fact that customer service is poor or they speak fast with slurring and slang. That permanent outstretched palm gets to you after a while.
In & out of Panama close to 40yrs, married to my Panamainian bride 38yrs+, all the negatives are true. Made the move here in 2015, the happiest I've ever been. We live about 140miles north of capital, low mountains, got about 25acres, an of Xtrail. Live comfortable on retirement(not rich). Have small circle of friends-expats & locals, never going back to the states
Hi and thanks for watching. It's inspiring to hear your story. Thanks for sharing. Yea, it's Ben a wonderful experience living here. I have no desire to go back to the states either.
Hi John and thanks for watching. Please watch this video on Panama's Healthcare System. All of your questions except for elder care are answered here. ua-cam.com/video/YjD5Mr7FtRo/v-deo.html
I was born in Panama 🇵🇦 and lived in many countries. Nowhere is perfect living in the US now and moving back to panama 🇵🇦 God willing after retirement 🙏. Live and visit other countries and it will give you a better perspective of life.
Hi and thanks for watching. I have visited over 30 countries and have a fine perspective of life. Is there anything I mentioned in this video thar isn't true? 99% of Panamanians in these comments don't have any issues with this video. Obviously, no place is perfect and the U.S. has far worse negatives like mass murders, high rates of violent crime, people being torn apart along political, racial and gender lines, natural disasters, etc. My perspective on life was that I didn't want to live in that environment which is precisely why I live in Panama. Panama is a great country and a great place to live but no place is paradise. This channel will continue to give people a realistic view of what to expect if moving to Panama.
I’ve been in Panama for 20 years. The biggest problem is the language. Can’t hear or understand words because they speak so fast. They also cut the words so you have no idea what they are saying. The trash has always been terrible. It is hard to except that there is trash all over this beautiful country. After so many years and still no government has made it a priority to clean up and teach not to through garbage everywhere. All the rest you learn to live with, because every country has the good and not so good. This is truly an excellent video. He says it all. The Panamanian people are wonderful!
About the trash. Have you ever been to other provinces? There are many places where trash has never been an issue. That's mainly a big city issue very prominent in the capital.
Thank you for this well structured message. My wife and I are visiting Panama in August for a tour and considering retirement there. Panama is developing so much of what you say is to be expected. From what I am seeing though, Panama is heading in a positive direction in many metrics with some growing pains. To be expected. Unfortunately, I feel the US is currently heading in the wrong direction, for some time now and see little, if any corrective action being taken by our "leaders". Greed and lack of concern for others. Lost in the wilderness, so to speak. One can argue the US is devolving. Safety is a serious concern also. Looking forward to our trip. Good day, sir.
Hi James. Thanks for watching and for your kind words. Yes, Panama is a developing country so these are more like annoyances than anything. As you mentioned, such a list if made for the U.S. would be terrifying! That said, we did want to make known a realistic view. One thing I should have mentioned is that you can pay the energy bill online IF you have a Panamanian bank account. As for the conditions in the U.S., I believe it's being imploded on purpose. There is no other reasonable explanation for what is going on and the lack of effort to slow down or stop it. It is being destroyed on every level imaginable be it political, economic, social, racial, etc. As a person who studies the bible, America is also on the wrong end of its prophecies and we're seeing that play out now. It will only continue to get worse until it falls. That aspect isn't something I discuss on these videos as it may be a sensitive topic for some. However that did inspire the name of this channel because there are on a Chosen Few with the eyes to see and the will to get out of there. Please keep me posted on the progress of your trip planning and visit. chosenfewexpats@gmail.com
James, I totally agree with you in regards to how the US seems to be going somewhat in a "bass ackwards" kind of way...so-to-speak. "Greed and lack of concern for others" is a rather polite way of putting it. Good luck to you and your wife on your visit this summer!
I don't know if you are from the USA but most of these negatives you find in the US just depending on where you are the USA. They are not unique to Panama.
Hi Robert and thanks for watching. Yes, we are from the U.S. I'm from Gary, IN which was the murder capital of the world for most of the years between the late 80's and early 2000's. While what you stated is true for some of these negatives, there are several here that are fairly unique to many Latin countries. We never stated at any of these were unique to Panama. Also, please keep in mind that if we made a list of 15 negatives for the U.S., while some of these may apply as negatives... they would never make the top 15. Such a list for the U.S. would be something like... high rate of violent crime, freezing weather, too many people owning guns, mass shootings, drag shows for kids, racism and hate crimes, tornadoes, hurricanes, outrageous health care costs, etc. Panama doesn't have any of these negatives.
Hi Jason. Thanks so much for your kind words brother? So, where do you live? Any interest in moving to Panama? If so, please don't let this video turn you off. These are mostly minor annoyances.
I'm a Panamenian who left at 10 years of age. Now I've been back this last year since my mother passed away. You forgot the medical and pharmaceutical aspect of it. It is cheaper than the U.S. but for the common folks, access to medicine is ridiculous, pharmacies sometimes do not have the medicines one needs. The transportation is a joke, specially when it comes to the bus system. You do find plenty of taxis, pirate buses and the limited train, but if you don't have the funds for a taxi, because it will get expensive, the bus system is so unreliable. You will get an hour of no busses coming through one side yet the other side 10 buses have passed by. And when they finally make it your way, there will be 3 to 4 buses of the same route at once. So there is no bus schedule even though Google Maps thinks there is a schedule. The bus drivers drive as if they were still driving their Diablo Rojos, which used to be independent buses who literally would speed like crazy just to beat the next Diablo Rojo to the next stop and clients. As a previous minivan chauffeur with plenty of defensive driving courses taken, and safety ingrained into my brain, I can not comprehend why these "professional" drivers, speed, cut off, tail gate, stop for no apparent reason with a bus full, no dangerously filled with passengers, drive the way they do. They are hourly employees so what's the rush? Also, many communities have zero side walks, the road itself is barely wide enough for two buses to safely pass by one another, so imagine having to walk on the road since there is no sidewalk. Not to mention Panama is NOT inclusive of the handicap community. When you do have a side walk, 99% will not be equipped with proper ramps at the street corner pedestrian crossings. For the past 35 years, I've been yearning to return home but because I'm here within the circumstances that I am and do not have a job nor the funds coming in as needed to live comfortably as I did in the U.S. even as a poor single mother of 4, I am totally wanting to return to the U.S. Perhaps once I'm ready to retire, things will be better planned out for my return but living in the San Miguelito ghetto, with all the trash, noise pollution, faulty bus system, food prices as high as Texas, and inadequate side walks and safety I've had enough of Panama.😢😅Y'all don't know how much I'm missing Texas, my F-150 and my open roads so I can just go on my road trips to enjoy the wild flowers. 😂🙃
Wow! Thanks for watching and for all of your insight in Panama. I'm sorry you're having a difficult time but I'm shocked you would want to go back to the U.S. Have you considered a less congested area of Panama than the San Miguelito area?
I also live in Panama. Many people here prefer to walk in the road instead of using the sidewalk. Drivers do not know how to use turn signals. Horns are not used as a warning device. They are used whenever the driver is frustrated or angry. As soon as a traffic light turns green people begin to lean on the horn. Panama City is one noisy and chaotic place.
you are lucky to be able to live in the US, I've been trying for years to do it the right way, for me to get over there, but there are so many headaches and requirements for ppl who want to do it the legal way.
Easily the best country in Central America. Best country in the western hemisphere and one of the top overall places to live n the world if you ask me.
Very informative video! It’s always good to know not just the good, but the negatives so that you can prepare as best as possible for them. Definitely still considering Panama as my new home from the US.
Hi Charlie and thanks for watching. I'm so glad you took this video as intended. These are mostly annoyances and are nothing compared to the mass murders, etc. negatives of the U.S. Panama is an amazing place to live!! Please check out our website panamarelocationonlinecourses.com to join our Community, receive our Newsletter and get information on our Panama Relocation Online Course.
Hi and thanks for watching. Yes, that's true. The same can be said for other things on this list as well. The major issue with that in Panama is that they have the money to help a lot more. There are only 4.5 million people here. Also keep in mind that although an issue in the U.S., this may not even make a top 15 list for the U.S. Other issues such as mass shootings, high violent crime rate, high inflation, poisoned food, destruction of property in protests, people divided along political, racial and every line imaginable, etc. that Panama does not have would all top this in my opinion.
I currently live in Port Saint Lucie FL. Some of the things your talking about in this video I deal with in the US. I have been to Panama three times and there are cons however the pros definitely outweigh the negatives for me. The biggest negative here in the US is the taxes. So many of my former coworkers have to go back to work because they simply can’t afford health insurance.
Hi Ken. Thanks for watching and commenting. No way am I saying these things are exclusive to Panama and agree with you that the pros heavily outweigh the cons. Yes... taxes, healthcare, mass shootings, violent crimes, high inflation, people divided along every line possible, etc. Therefore plenty of issues to choose from my brother.
Living in Lake Worth, FL. Agree re: taxes and health insurance, plus the U.S. imposed medical standard of care, the political corruption ... Am evaluating different countries like Panama.
Gurl AMEN....PANAMA exit strategy already in place. I lived in Jamaica for 12 years and loved it ...saved enough money to buy a major investment... Would never in a million years own what I own there. Medical system and low crime and low cost of living ...we don't have have of these blessings ..sand flies and all...lol. I have a business that sell nontoxic insect repellent.
Hey Alonzo…. TIP- this is Panama! Your list is spot on. Lived in the city for 4 months and it was the trash for me… did something to my soul 😢. But I love Panama even with all the annoyances. No place is perfect. Thanks for sharing your experiences.
@@ChosenFewExpats I plan to return eventually, I have a teenage son so duty calls at home. I had a job at an international school for him but he decided not to join me so I quit and returned home.
This statement right here, "the trash did something to my soul", you are spot on. It's literally eating at my soul, specially the "no recycling" stand or lack of stand from the government itself. I was told by a taxi driver that some years back, China came asking to take all of our trash for free, yet the greedy Panamenian government wanted China to pay is for our trash. What??? So here we stand, living and rotting in trash. 💔💔💔
Hi and thanks for watching. Thanks for your comment and your understanding. Many people for some reason took this video as me bashing Panama but as you said, it's just about setting expectations. Most of these issue are minor annoyances more than anything but will be an adjustment for many people coming from a fully developed nation like the U.S. Panama in spite of these issues is still a great place to live with many, many positives. Are you considering a move to Panama?
With so many UA-camrs singing about the glory of life In Panama or elsewhere, it’s refreshing and VERY valuable to have someone take the time to run down the “negatives” which people also need to know about, so thank you!
Hi Wes and thanks for watching. Thanks also for your reasonable perspective. So many people took this video the wrong way. As I stated, these are mostly minor annoyances. Things people need to know but certainly not as bad as the mass shootings, social and political strife, high inflation, natural disasters, etc. of the U.S. Please visit our website and join our Community and Facebook groups. panamarelocationonlinecourses.com
Is really interesting to see the other side of the coin as you moving from other country to ours, this an educational way to see what we need to improve and how to improved.... really appreciated I will pass the word as is a great opportunity for make the quality of live better ...... once again a BIG THANKS!!
Buenas noches! Thank you such for your comment. It really means a lot to me! I'm still shocked by how many expats disliked this video saying some very mean things to me concerning it. Just because someone points out some areas of improvement doesn't mean they don't love Panama. Me encanto tu pais! Gracias!!
Hi Carlos and thanks for watching. Yes, I agree. These are mostly minor annoyances. A similar list for the U.S. would be packed full of safety related issues. So, are you considering a move to Panama? If so, shoot me an email sometime. chosenfewexpats@gmail.com
Bruh! You are spot on! I was stationed there from 1991-94 Everything you mentioned I experienced. I was heavily considering the D.R. because it reminds me of Panama. But I have shifted to consider Panama. Yes there's good and bad everywhere. All the things you mentioned I can say I've seen in the D.R. but I will get more for my buck there, (in Panama), and there's less people trying to "fleece" me because I am a gringo 😅😅😅 That $20.00 in your pasporte/licencia de conducir is a life saver 😅 Been there, done that!😅 Panama is for me🇺🇲🇵🇦
Hey Walter! Thanks for watching my brother. I'm so glad you took this video the right way because many didn't. These are mostly minor annoyances. Panama is a great place to live with a ton of positives. Shoot me an email sometime and check out our website. chosenfewexpats@gmail.com www.panamarelocationonlinecourses.com
Will do Brother! I am in the D.R. in May. I am planning to come there Oct/Nov time frame, because it will be 30yrs to-the-date that I PCSs'ed from Panama, (Ft. Kobbe), back to the US and Ft. Polk, La.
Now this is the information I needed to hear. Panama was on my radar when I move next year. I was torn between Panama and the Philippines. Both are great places to live, but this information is a great help in making a decision on where to move for a couple of years.
Hi Bobby and thanks for watching. This video is in no way meant to discourage anyone from moving to Panama. These are mostly minor annoyances and growing pains that come with any developing country. That applies to the Philippines as well. Panama is still a fantastic place to live. I've spent some time in the Philippines also. I love it and the people. Very nice, like Panamanians. Aside from better customer service, you'll encounter pretty much all the same issues or worse. The Philippines does have a lower cost of living though. However Panama is by far the better choice when considering many factors such as banking, the economy, weather (no hurricanes or typhoons), low rate of violent crime, etc. Shoot me an email sometime on how things are progressing with your decision. chosenfewexpats@gmail.com
Former US Air Force member here who lived in the Philippines for almost 3 years. It was great but I had the benefit of the Air Force base in my corner. The PI has changed a lot since the Air and Navy bases closed. It does not seem as safe anymore, and the healthcare system is third world.
Hi and thanks for watching. Agreed, my brother. Everything is relative. All of these places beat living in America in my opinion. How long did you live in Belize? At least they speak English. That's an advantage, right?
@@ChosenFewExpats I was only there for about a week. My wife and I seriously considered moving there. Panama was brought to my attention and I started looking into it. It had all the things I liked about Belize with a better infrastructure and great healthcare. We will be visiting Panama City in December. I can't wait.
Thanks! Panama wasn't high on my list of options, but your comprehensive list of negatives reminded me and in some cases alerted me to issues I have to look into before I move to one of the places I _am_ seriously considering.
Hi Al and thanks for watching. You comment is perfect in the sense that these and other items we cover in our channel are factors that people need to consider no matter where they are planning to move. Even with these minor annoyances, Panama is a fantastic option. I honestly do know if a place that check more positive boxes for me. If you don't mind me asking, what countries are you considering? With all of the positives, why wasn't Panama a high option? Please send me an email at... chosenfewexpats@gmail.com.
Wow! Substitute the name and you've actually described living in Bangkok 100%! I lived with ALL those "negatives" in The Land of Smiles for years. I'm looking for a change in local and lifestyle now but I'm definitely taking Panama City (other locations in the country still possible) off my list of possibilities. Been there, Done that, or as the Thai would say "Same Same but Different!"
Hi and thanks for watching. Yes, similar for Thailand and many other developing nations as well. These are mostly minor annoyances to me compared to all of the positives.
Thanks for watching. Please don't let these minor annoyances discourage you. Panama is still a great place to live. So are you interested in living in Panama? If so, check out our website at: panamarelocationonlinecourses.com or... Send me an email at: chosenfewexpats@gmail.com
Hi Maria. I'm glad this helped. I hope these mostly minor annoyances haven't discouraged you from considering Panama. Are you planning to move here? Please keep posted. Send an email at chosenfewexpats@gmail.com
I've been to Panama, thought about relocating there, spent three months there, last January-March, you nailed a lot of the negatives, but there are also many positives, I think snow birding is my best option, we squired pension ado visas
You're right. These are mostly minor annoyances compared to a place like the U.S. right now. Even Canada has many freedoms being taken away. Unfortunately, it seems like this video turned some people off of Panama but that was not the intent at all. Panama is still an amazing place to live. Congrats on getting your residency! The snowbird option isn't a bad one. Many people split the time fairly evenly and love it. Thanks again.
Was in Panama January, February ,March .of 2022, and everything you mention is spot on, but There's an allure that makes me want to come back, and I will
Hi John and thanks for watching. I'm glad you had a great trip! I'm also very glad that you can absorb this information and still see the big picture. These are mostly annoyances and pale in comparison to the negatives of living in the U.S. for example. Pamama is still a great place to live! So when do you think you'll return? Are you planning to visit or relocate? Shoot me an email sometime: chosenfewexpats@gmail.com Also, please check out our website: www.panamarelocationonlinecourses.com
OMG!!! Hello, my brutha! I am soooo glad you did this top 15 + honorable mentions! This is by far one of the best true videos I've seen over these past several months on the REAL DEAL of Panama :) Even with the info one of my dear friends who moved there about a year ago shared with me; you hit pretty much all of the other marks on my list of things to be aware of. I did already know of a good bit of them, but you covered them more objectively and I thank you! All in all; none of these are a turn off nor deal breaker for me as I am looking forward to making my preliminary trip down there to check things out before the end of this year. Being the realist that I am, I am approaching this with the same realistic viewpoint as when I was preparing to enlist in the military many moons ago. Spare me on the "fluff" as that part is a given...lol! Provide me with an honest perspective of the reality of what I'm looking at getting into and I can objective make an informed decision based upon that. Again, much appreciated for this and I am even more-so looking forward to Panama being my future retirement or (semi retirement) spot by this time next year.
What's up my brother? What's your name? I just saw your other message. Thanks so much for your kinds words. We are going to shoot it to you straight on this channel. Like you said, nine of these are deal breakers but more so annoyances. The positives FAR outweigh the negatives. Shoot me an email at chosenfewexpats@gmail.com Keep us posted on the progress with your move. As you progress with it, we offer personal consultations if interested. You already have a great resource with your friend too though. Also, please consider joining us via a membership on Patreon for more in depth, pre-released content, exclusive content, our Facebook group and live chats.
Thanks for the reply! Btw... my name is Mark Pressley. I actually meant to say "are not deal breakers". Definitely, my friend is/ has been very helpful with info she's been providing me. I will follow up with you via your Gmail info and will look at the members option. No such thing as too much knowledge!
@@house-headsmusic4950 Hey Mark, nice to meet you brother. Yeah, I figured that's what you meant. It's great that you have your friend as a resource. That's a huge advantage that most people don't have. You're right, we can never have too much information. Definitely shoot me an e-mail sometime.
So we live here in Panama and you nailed every single negative that we have encountered. Great video for people who are considering coming here or living here. You don't really hear the true negatives on all the other Panama sites. Thanks for the great informative video!
Hi and thanks for watching. I really appreciate your kind words. Although most of these are more so annoyances, it's important for people to understand as much as they can about the country they are considering moving to. Many of the other Panama content creators and expats in general were not happy with me about this video but... oh well! Ironically, almost all Panamanians agreed completely with it.
@@ChosenFewExpats ...and, because everybody is different, and has different wants and needs and tastes, one of those 15 might be a serious deal breaker. So, if you didn't know about any of these annoyances or negatives, you might spend a bunch of your money finding out the expensive way, as opposed to watching this video and and saying to yourself "oh hell no, not for me!" Panamá is not for everyone!
You have cracked me up😆! Everything you said about Panamá is so true but I still love her “mi Patria querida! I am a former born and raised Zonian from Panamanian parents and a father who was a Canal Zone employee. It has been many years since I left my beloved Panamá behind but I miss her and can’t wait to visit there again. The fires are something I miss so much as a child. Not just the smell but the little burnt blades of charcoaled grass drifting in the air to catch and pinch with your fingers and get the charcoal on them. What you said about the way Panamanians speak fast and omit letters in words such as “oye como tú taj” instead of “oye cómo tu estás?” They know how to say it correctly but it is kind of a slang or Panamanian accent. I used to think that we Panamanians did not have an accent until I heard them speak after many years and boy…they definitely do! I speak more neutral but I can speak that way for fun with my siblings. I have had to interpret for many years and I made sure to pronounce words completely and speak more neutral or “educated”. They do it like a fun way of speaking, but I commend you on learning Spanish. It always warms the heart of Panamanians to hear an American or any foreigner make the effort to learn the language. By the way Cubans, Puertoricans and Dominicans actuality speak faster and gobble up even more letters in words when they speak than Panamanians do😄. I have to thank you for explaining so many facts about the country that I didn’t even know such as the exact time of the sunrise and sunsets, a bit more about the climate, etc. But yes, punctuality is something that is not practiced so much in panama and that would drive us Americans crazy for sure. I wonder if they hunk their horns like crazy still in the city of panama when in traffic. I remember that people were pretty aggressive drivers and would hunk their horns almost as extensions of speech over there. Here in the states it is a rarity or very rude to hunk a horn in a car unless it is being done to prevent an accident, etc. I felt for my poor father driving back then. I moved to the states as a teen and so did my immediate family so I have lost touch with so much from there. I can’t wait to go there on vacation with friends and family. I miss the food and the gorgeous palm trees and the tropical breezes. It has changed and grew so much and from what I used to know many years ago. I love that so many expats live there now and that they share in UA-cam their experiences. Thank you so much for sharing in your channel. You are doing an exceptional job!
Hi Jessica and... WOW!! Thanks so much for watching and for your insight as a Panamanian. Me encanto tu pais!! The positive feedback is refreshing. I've had that from all Panamanians about this video but it struck a nerve with many expats. People act like you can't speak the truth on these issues (more like annoyances tha negatives) and still love this country. Thanks again for watching and for your kind words. Come on home! Your first sancocho I am on me!
I am in Chiriqui Provence near the Costa Rica border. I'd have to add a couple of things to your list. One is access to decent food and goods. Sounds silly since I am in Chiriqui (Panama's bread basket). Here we see the best food shipped daily to Panama City and we are left with veg several days old, poor quality bread, high carb cheap food staples, etc. I need to travel 2 hrs + each way to have an opportunity to buy anything better. At the same time, at beach level it is too hot to grow my own. Same distance (or more) required to procure other goods - anything of any quality. Panama goes for cheaply made imports - the society has a throw away mentality. Cheap style goods (not inexpensive) and unregulated, often less talented labor can and does result in shoddy craftsmanship. This is less prevalent in the city. Another issue out here is the extreme gringo pricing issues. Nothing is marked so everything is a discussion. Even utilities are gringo priced - and rental housing, speeding tickets, casual labor, transportation - everything. This is not enough to sustain the community financially so there is theft, begging, exploitation and patronage. Don't come here thinking you will be able to live "on the cheap" - it will cost less than N. America or Europe but it isn't cheap. Finally I must mention the frequent protests. This is the way the citizens manage opposition to decisions made by the government. If you are not a citizen you must refrain from participating and commenting in public. They will close the roads, set fires and otherwise command attention/ disrupt until they are heard. This is not infrequent. Whatever you think about it or however inconveinient, this is a time honored way of managing disagreement here. The discomfort of being under siege is less important than creating opportunity for chango. We just stock up and prepare when the rumblings begin.
So many of these sounded so much like southern rural Louisiana until it made me wonder why I'm leaving, LOL!!!! Here we burn the sugar cane fields etc. after harvest. You get over the smell and eye irritation after a few weeks. But the bugs, tranquillo service, power and water outages during hurricane season, etc. etc.
Hi and thanks for watching. Yes, many of the issues in the U.S. and other countries. You're leaving because nine of these items would make such a list of the top 15 negatives for living in the United States. That list would include things like mas shootings, high murder rates, high violent crime rate, high inflation, an eroding economy, people divided along every line possible (racial, political, etc) on top of the natural disasters, etc. Panama doesn't have any of these things. Tornadoes are extremely rare and it has never been hit by a hurricane. Are you planning to move to Panama? Please send me an email to keep us posted on how things are progressing. chosenfewexpats@gmail.com
I've been to Costa Rica five years in a row, 6-8 weeks at a time, escaping NY winter. This is very helpful and a good prep for what seems will be some differences. My take aways, are to avoid the traffic on weekends, there is GOING to be noise, there Will be trash. Like you, I speak a bit of Spanish and did okay in CR, but Panamanian Spanish seems quite different, not enunciated (like in CR), so that too is a good tip. Great presentation, well organized, with a couple helpful video visuals. GRACIAS, amigo!
Hi Jim and thanks for watching. Thanks for your kind words. Yes, you'll find Costa Rica to be similar except for the trash. I believe it's more clean but is far more expensive.
Hi Krystel and thank for watching. These are mostly minor annoyances. Panama is a fantastic place to live. Are you considering a move here? Feel free to send me an email at chosenfewexpats@gmail.com
Nailed it!!! 🤭🙈🤦🏽♂️ traffic alone can be a dealbreaker for many, especially if you gotta travel across the bridges to and from Panamá oeste. These some of the things I don’t miss from my home country 🤪🙈🙈
Hi and thanks for watching. None of these are intended to be dealbreakers. It's unfortunate if they are. These are mostly minor annoyances. Panama is a great place to live with a ton of positives that far outweigh these things. Come on back home brother!
I don't know how you can make this video and not mention. 1) The indoor plumbing sucks. The toilets are all terrible and flush slowly. 2) Unmaintained dangerous metal rebar drain areas which you can fall in and break your leg. 3) Expensive groceries. Rey is nuts... for a supposed developing country I found grocery prices somewhat high. 4) 4GLTE cell phone coverage only... 5G is not available at all. But yeah the TOILETS ARE TERRIBLE..AHHHH... leave the city some of these problems are lessoned but still exist... see Boquete.
Hi and thanks for watching. Plumbing is not an issue for the condos expats tend to live in or homes they tend to rent. Most locals shop at El Matchetazo or Super 99 for lower cost. Agreed on you other points. Most people's attention spans are very short. It's hard to place so my items in video that would make it too long. Thanks again and please check out our website at: panamarelocationonlinecourses.com
Can you believe Panama City doesn't even rank among the top 10 Latin American cities with worst traffic? Bogota takes the cake and Porto Alegre, Brasil, comes in at #10.
Hey brother and thanks for commenting. Yes, I can believe it. Bogota, Rio, Sao Paulo, etc are much larger cities in terms of population. The issue for Panama is more about the layout and how people drive.
Thanks Sir for you valuable information to anyone that want to move to my Country. I myself have problems adapting to those things you mentioned. I have lived most part of my life out of Panama.
You're welcome and thanks for watching. Me encanta tu pais!! Panama is amazing. I pray people don't take this video the wrong way. It is in no way meant to discourage people from moving here. These are mostly just annoyances and not major issues. So, where do you live now and when are you coming home??
@@ChosenFewExpatsSorry for my late response. I did not see your reply I guess biased on not expecting an answer from the owner of the youtube channel. I could tell you like very much Panama which is amazing to me in fact I feel kind of envy of your patience towards the flaws in Panama system. Don't worry about people from Panama taking your concernings in wrong way: to some panamenians are hard to accept facts. Regardless your question I live in NY and planing to go back by the end of the year, my location gonna be in Los Santos province. Hope you understand my way of write....
Don't compare infrastructure with U.S. - The potholes on Wilshire Blvd in downtown Los Angeles, CA. - could be compared to the potholes in Ohio.... or the sinkholes in Florida... if you try to compare, you will become unhappy where ever you land!
Hi Bobby and thanks for watching. I will absolutely compare sir. People who are moving here need to have an understanding of what the reality is. They can only know that based on comparing things in Panama to what they know back home. It doesn't always mean that someone will end up unhappy. It's more so about setting expectations.
Thanks so much for watching for for understanding. This video sadly rubbed many expats the wrong way. These are mostly minor annoyances and were as you said.... just my perspective.
exelente! Also I heard about something called a push through. It's like this: The traffic doesn't clear enough for you to cross both lanes of traffic; so you just cross the first lane and hang out there in the middle of the road until there is a pause in the second lane and you can get yourself across and hope no one smashes into you!!! You have a real gift for videos, I look forward to seeing more of your work.
Hi Sandra. Thanks for watching and for your kinds words. I've never heard the term but have seen that... only a couple of times. People cross busy highways often but mostly wait on the side until things are clear. Still scary for me as a driver though. Panama can stand to have a few more crossing bridges in some areas. The thing is... even with a crossing bridge,.many will just take their chances and cross the road anyway. We're very glad you like our content. Are you planning a move to Panama? Feel free to shoot us an email sometime: chosenfewexpats@gmail.com
Hi Danielle! How have you been? Thanks so much for watching and commenting. These negatives for me are mostly just annoyances. A similar list for the U.S. would be much, much worse. I definitely love your beautiful country!
Hi Cheryl. How have you been? Thanks for the info. I just need to find the online info for Naturgy now that it appears they have an online option. I thought it was only possible to do automatic ACH transfers with your bank account information online for Naturgy, not pay via credit card or debit card. Is that correct? If so, I'm not sure that I'd want to sign up for automatic payments. I've been here for over 2 years and had to pay in person initially for Naturgy and Tigo. If you know how I can pay Naturgy online via a debit or credit card, please let me know.
Good presentation, the message is patience, if you ain't got it, don't go. Most informative, thanks. Panama relocation tours and others promoting Panama show you all the good stiff, like paradise.
Hi Bill. Thanks for watching and commenting. Your perspective is the exact take we were hoping people would get from this. These are mostly minor annoyances but just setting expectations. Many people including other Panama expats, realtors, etc. came out harshly against me for this video because they want people to believe Panama is a utopia. No such place exists on this earth. However, Panama has a ton of positives and is still a great place to live.
Thank you for the very informative video. Visiting a place as a tourist can be much different than living there. I always wanted to experience living overseas. I’m retired now. I moved to Bangkok Thailand for three years. Just recently moving back to the states. It was ok n the beginning. But after a while certain things just became annoying. Much different from being just a tourist than an expat.
Hi Mike. Thanks for watching and commenting. Your experience as an expat gave you the intended point of view with this view. It's just information people need to understand concerning these (for me) mostly minor annoyances before they move here. This video was in no way intended to discourage people from moving to Panama. Panama is still an amazing place to live.
I don’t understand the negative comments. You are “commenting” not “complaining”. I have several friends who have bought in Coronado (but aren’t living there full time). They love it. I appreciate your honesty and forthright approach!
Hi Ann and thanks so much for your kind words. I agree! I was shocked by the backlash. 99.9% from expats. Most Panamanians had no issue with the video. I'm so glad that you absorbed it in the context that I intended. These are mostly minor annoyances
@@ChosenFewExpats I lived overseas for 3 years (Israel in the 70s, when it was pretty undeveloped) and sure could have used some observations like yours beforehand!
I have been thinking about retiring in Panama early in 2025. The only thing that may be a concern for me would be the Noseeums. I had a bad reaction to them while vacationing in North Captiva Island on the gulf of Mexico in the US a few years back.
Hi Peter. Thanks for watching. They are really more of an issue in Bocas del Toro. If you're considering Panama City or the Pacific beaches, there shouldn't be much of an issue.
I've been living in Mexico for over 5 years now, and it would be hard to believe that there aren't any apps that you can use to pays your utilities. Mexico does. I'll be visiting Panama this Friday and getting condo at the Yacht Club Towers next week. My Spanish is good and most folks who decide to live in Spanish speaking countries should learn the language. All in all, when you compare other countries to the United States, you will ALWAYS be disappointed all the way down to the foods that you can't find that you're used to. I also tell folks to DO YOUR RESEARCH before you decide to live in another country!
Hi David. Thanks for watching and for your insightful comments as a fellow expat my brother. YOu can pay all of your bills online with the exception of your energy bill if you don't have a Panama bank account. I neglected to mention that. Having lived in Mexico for 5 years and your Spanish being that good is a huge advantage. More people really do need to try harder to learn the language to have the best experience. We're glad people are watching but encourage them to do their own research as you said. Everyone is different in terms of what they are willing to deal with. In my opinion, none of these minor annoyances can come close to comparing the madness that's going on in the U.S. right now. It's only going to get worse.
I’m currently doing research and I’m undecided between moving to Mexico, probably Merida or Queretaro, or moving to Panama. Speaking Spanish is not an issue as I was born in Spain. Any thoughts that you can share about living in Mexico would be very much appreciated. Are you considering moving to Panama? If so why? Thanks in advance.
@@p.c.h.6721 Well as you stated, speaking Spanish not an issue for you so I think you may rather enjoy it here. I really enjoyed my time in Mexico and I've assisted many in becoming a first time expat. After living Baja California Norte and then living in Playa Del Carmen, I found myself getting bored. I've done everything that there is do. In all of that, I had some inspirations that I would find my person to share my life with, but to no avail. Those two things caused me to do some research on my next location. In the end, I decided to move to Panama. I recently visited Panama and I secured a condominium and have signed my lease. I move on August 4th. I hope this answers your questions. Feel free to reach out anytime for more information.
@@ChefDeejays Thank you so much! I will carry on doing more research, I have a family so I don’t want to end up moving them from country to country. I want to find a country, either Mexico or Panama seem like good options, where we can settle down and stay there for the foreseeable future (we are done with socialist Europe.) I hope you finally find someone to share your life with, you never know when that will happen, it can be someone you meet randomly or someone from one of those dating sites on the internet, give it a try, at the very least you’ll go out on a few dates and you’ll have some fun (I met my wife through a messaging app 23 years ago after I ended with a broken heart from a previous relationship who turned out to be a Gold digger, 7 years of my life wasted, but that situation led me to find my current wife.) Best of luck and enjoy Panama, if I decide to move there I’ll contact you again, stay strong and hopeful ✌️
Thanks for sharing. It's definitely an issue in the U.S. with the snow and ice getting into cracks and opening holes. It's not usually an issue in the U.S. where there are areas of new asphalt though.
The traffic and early sunset issues sound just like Phoenix, AZ. Also the the issue with trash seems to be a global one. While traveling the countryside of Morocco, I was amazed at how trash was alongside the roads.
Hi and thanks for watching as well as adding your comments. I haven't spent much time in AZ but that's interesting. I shouldn't make the trash situation sound so, so terrible but it's just a negative that's high on my list. Areas in many U.S. cities are just as bad.
Thanks for the video. It’s spot on. I’ve been living in the US for 35 years and so used to things here that when I go home ( Panama) it looks so different. Traffic is definitely #1. I don’t even drive there. I avoid the city as much as possible or don’t go out much. Most of the things you said are true. The insects ? Well it’s the tropic, the rain? Yes it rains like 7 months/ out of the year. Enjoy that. We don’t see it much in the States. Go and enjoy the country side. Chiriqui, Bocas del Toro, San Blas. DONT feel like a stranger, people are nice overall. Enjoy the food, the sun, and the beaches. From a nostalgic Panamanian 🥰👋🏼 🇵🇦
Great information and you do a great job sharing negative Information! My husband and I really like your personality! We are in the process of moving to Panama. Looking at the Buenaventura area. Hopefully we will meet you and your wife someday. Can't wait to say goodbye to 110 degree heat in AZ!
Thanks for watching and for your kind words. I'm sure you all are excited about your move! Approximately when are you all planning to come? Please shoot me an email at: chosenfewexpats@gmail.com. Most of these items in my opinion are more so annoying than negative so it's not to hard to deliver. I'm still amazed at the backlash this video received almost totally from expats. All of the Panamanians I know who either commented or told me personally that they agreed with all of it. After all, it is the truth although some expats didn't like hearing it. Panama isn't perfect. No place is but Panama is still a GREAT country to live in. Buenaventura is really nice. Yes, I'm sure we'll connect. Stay cool. I heard it's been above 110 for nearly 3 weeks! That's just crazy!!
Living in Arizona too, and yes, it's often unbearable here in the summer. And like someone else wrote, the days here are so much shorter. I'm from Europe, and it was really hard to get used to it. Still struggling with it sometimes. I was hoping to move to Panama when I retire, but what you said about the Spanish being talked there, really made me wonder, if I would be able to learn it. 😢
My Uncle was in the Military in Panama & married a Panama woman- & has done quite well over the years - maybe because of being a Veteran. I’m planning to visit him soon - and he does speak very very fast - a combination of Spanish & English
New subscriber checking in! I was so tickled by your commentary--especially the controlled fires that look OUT OF control 🤣and the slow left-turning drivers. That slow turning would definitely piss me off haha. On another note, I was shocked that mold did not make your list! I've heard and read that mold is truly a thing in Panama and needs constant attention. Honestly, it is the one thing that has me on the fence about making the move from the states. I visited a little over a year ago and was in complete awe of that beautiful, little country. At any rate, love your content and look forward to supporting your channel❣
Hi Stephanie! Thanks for watching, subscribing, commenting and for your kind words. Yes, the slow turns are annoying! I just don't get it. 🤣😀 I have heard of a couple of people having some issues with mold but only in older homes and in cases where they were gone for several weeks at a time. Even if they had an issue, all they have to do is place a fee of those Damp Rid buckets in the home if they will.be gone for more than q few weeks during rainy season when it's most humid. Also, they don't really use drywall much here so I would be deterred by that at all. You should by all means take one more visit but do so with the mindset of “Can I live here?“ or “What would my daily life be like here?“ as opposed to just being on vacation or a tourist mindset. (still see the sights though). Panama is a beautiful place with nice, beautiful people. Take that eck d exploratory trip and the make the move! Please send me an email at: chosenfewexpats@gmail.com if Panama remains on your list.
Thanks for watching and commenting. Yep. 1/3 of the people in the whole country live in Panama City so most of the traffic issues are there and in the beach areas on holiday weekends. Not many issues aside from that. I should have made that more clear.
Hi Alleyne! 🤣😂🤣 Thanks for your kind words. Yes, tis true... tis true! It all depends on your personal experience as to what is #1. I've lost enough time sitting in traffic for that to top the list although the customer service can be frustrating as well. I think it's slowly getting better though... slowly.
@@ChosenFewExpats I know customer service is something I'm going to have to get use to, but we folks from the USA need to slow down and calm down. I'm coming to Panama for two weeks in August so I need to begin getting my patience together right now. I personally hate no-shows and people being late. sigh
If you want convenience, reliability, and fast service, America is the best country on earth. However, living in America is unaffordable for average earners.
Alonzo, great video! Some of it made me laugh out loud because we experienced those very things when we visited for a week. It was that visit that made us feel like Panama was not the place for us. Given your video, I want to mention one of the main things that we did not like. It is infrastructure related. We stayed in a beautiful modern condo building, but it had a bad septic smell. We stayed in a lovely Airbnb in the Yoo buiding. It looked fantastic, but had to burn candles ALL the time. I had to close the stoppers in the sinks, keep the bathroom doors closed and keep the balcony doors open in order for the bedroom / living to to be bearable. At first we thought it was a plumbing problem in the Airbnb, then we caught wiffs of the smell other places in the building - especially the lobby bathrooms. Then we thought it was a problem in the Yoo building, until we smelled septic smells when we were out at other places. So tell me please, is this a common infrastrucure problem in Panama City?
Hi brother and thanks for watching. You shouldn't let your experience discourage you. You had a bad experience with the smell in just one building. We never had that issue on four exploratory trips staying in several different places as well as several trips since moving here. To me, most of the issues I mentioned are more so annoyances. No place is going to be perfect. Relative to other countries, Panama is still an outstanding country even with these short comings. Help me put together a similar list for the U.S. real quick. 🤣
@@ChosenFewExpats, Hey Alonzo. Thank you for responding. I guess we got a bad pick. For many reasons - namely the language barrier and the infrastructure, we think that Panama is likely not our spot. We are getting married in Puerto Vallarta on 6/24. Then we honeymoon in Lisbon. So both of those are places that we are considering, especially Lisbon But we liked Panama as a place to visit. Definitely loved the weather there for Christmas and New Years. We will likely visit there again in the future. Also, I'm the bride of the bride / groom. So you should have said Hey Sister. (smile) Have a wonderful week! ................Morrow
Everything you said can be applied to every country in central America. Costa rica was the same on every count. But we loved having the dogs everywhere. And they were all friendly. But be prepared, if you eat outside, you’re sharing a meal. Panama City had large areas that aren’t lit at night and with large groups of people hanging on the corners. Being from NA it made me very uncomfortable and I thought our taxi driver was trying to get us killed, but the panamese (?) people never looked at us twice. After our initial fear, we realized the people there were chill and accepting.
Hi John and thanks for watching. Yes, most of these issues are similar for other developing countries. You're right about the lighting. I called Panama "Gotham City" the first night I arrived because so few buildings were lit up past 8 or 9pm. Yes, Panamanians are very chill and welcoming.
Visited lovely Panama in 2015. Changes are being made. Good. Seen Belize two years before that. I am sure they are not keeping up. Keep moving ahead Panama
Good video. Interesting perspective. I would tell folks that they can pay bills through their Panamanian bank accounts very easily. It's a direct transfer to the Naturgy bank account. There's not a bill that we have here that can't be paid that way. Including Naturgy. Also Yappy works in most cases too.
What's up Will? Thanks for watching and commenting. I should have mentioned that automatic payments through your Panamanian bank account are now an option. The many who don't have or don't for some reason want a Panamanian bank account will still have to go old school on this one. Yappy is a great option in most cases as you mentioned but that forces one to set up an account with Banco General.
Hi Michael. Thank you my brother and thanks for watching. Let me say this this video is in now way meant to discourage people from moving to Panama. These are mostly minor annoyances. Panama is still a fantastic place to live. Are you considering relocating here? Shoot me an email at... chosenfewexpats@gmail.com Stay in touch and thanks again for watching.
Thank you so much for sharing with me/us those negative aspects of Panama. I moved to Panama after spending 5 years in Costa Rica and I will say that the negative or irritating things are mostly the same. If a person is planning to move to Panama they must prepare themselves for these irritating country things. I would like to add a couple more things to your list which you covered but not in detail. There is a very big problem with what I call "The System Infrastructure" where companies including the Panama Government don't seem to get how things work in real time. It took me a month to open a bank account and 4 months and counting to get my car back from Panama customs. Slow is one thing, but this is ridiculous!!! It appears to me that they don't want a speedy process because there's always someone willing to help you "for a price". Thanks - Gary
Hi Gary. Thanks for watching and for your comment. Yes, many processes are quite slow. Thanks for your additional information and insight. For the reasons you stated, we recommend for people to not ship cars here. Some of these things overall can be frustrating. As great as Panama is, we tried to give a balances view of the reality in this video. Some expats didn't like it so your kind words are much appreciated.
Great video. Thank you. I just retired in the US. I'm currently lookinng into Panama as a possible future retirement place. I'll be there for 2 months in December. The Pensionado Visa would be perfect for me. At the very least, Panama may work well for me as a snow bird location. Especially since the US winters pretty much correspond to the dry season in Panama. And, eventually, I may just move to Panama permanently. None of your negatives really bother me. I'm also fluent in Spanish. That's a big plus, obviously. I'm very sensitive to those Noseen bugs. But, fortunately, I'm partial to mountain living. I have been watching a lot of videos of the mountain areas of Panama. The Volcan area of Panama is my favorite so far. I plan that area and Boquete for my first visit. Thanks for this great info.
Hi Peter. My apologies for the late reply. Congrats on your retirement! I agree that these are mostly minor annoyances. These items wouldn't be high enough to even make such a list for the U.S. These things are nothing compared to 15 negatives of living in the U.S. That list would have things like mass shootings, high rate of violent crime, high rate of gun ownership, high rate of natural disasters, people being torn apart along every line possible be it political, racial, gender, etc. This video should in no way discourage people from moving to Panama but I fear it has. It's more so for a balances and accurate view of what to expect. Many didn't understand that perspective in the way that you did. There are a TON of outstanding positives of living here
Been living here (from South Africa) for 4 years and I applaud you for a very realistic video. On point with all 15!! Just remember that things are very different, living in the rural / semi rural areas to being in a town or city!! And great fruit and veg available, mostly sprayed, sadly (because of the extent of the bugs here) and very little choice for vegans. And I must add that the treatment of ALL animals here is Appalling. No regards for the sanctity of Life. Was and is my biggest bug bear!! And veterinarian care is generally very shoddy. My tuppence worth!! Enjoy your stay anyway, great being here! ❤
Hi Joy. Thanks for watching and for your kind words. We try to provide a little perspective from the rural and often provide it concerning semi-rural areas (such as beach and mountain areas). However, many people viewing will be planning to live in the city or at least most will experience on their exploratory trips to Panama. Also we've seen many people leave the semi-rural areas and move to the city. That said, we'll try to provide more insight on rural areas. Can I contact you for more information if needed? Thanks again for informing us of the animal treatment issues.
Hello from a German neighbor, here in Nueva Gorgona (police control point). You can pay naturgy bills via your bank app if you have a Panamanian account. Only saying. Restaurants and service: I moved from Germany to Canada in 2005. The thing that pissed me off? The waiters showing up every 5 minutes: “Everything okay?” “Do you need anything?” “Food is good?” Seriously! In Europe you get served and the waiter is approaching you after you lift your hand. He/she gives you space to enjoy your meal, friends and family. Moving to Panama (well, I got stranded in the pandemic actually) I completely enjoy that waiters don’t show up and disturb you. What I absolutely hate is cold food. So when they serve the food, I hold my hand over it, cold? I ask to heat it up. No problems. And very slow Panamanians work in offices. My building permit for my small house in the San Josè area, 8 minutes from Coronado took 16 months. I did my part fast but the company who sold the lots had some issues with the office people. So never insult a Panamanian who you need something from. You will regret it. I had my doubt on the stories from the company after 13 months waiting. I drove to the office again and had a chat with my phone to office workers kind off, because I understand 70-80% Spanish but I speak not good enough. I did not start visiting a school because everything was closed or didn’t even reopened after the lockdowns. So the workers explained that the company owners were very rude to them and demented to jump lines or approval without necessary documents. That’s when the inspector got pissed off. I figured that I’m in the middle of a battle and decided to just relax and agreed to every bad word they had to say about the company owners. After 2 weeks I got a call that they finally forwarded my papers. 2 weeks after that, I got a call to pay the permit. I thought cool. Now I get the permit. “No Senior! We never know if the person actually pays for the permit….. You can pick up the permit in 4-6 weeks. We need a copy of your receipt….” Well. Panama….Driving habits… Panamanian road test? You go to a fenced area like a pre-school kids traffic learning place in Europe for 5-8 year old kids. Test? Parking in 3 ways. Parallel, forward & in reverse. 1!! Stop sign. You pass you are good to drive in Panama. Good to hear that you hate how they turn or - slow down , slow down, slow down in the driving lane to get into a parking lot, shopping mal or gas station. Ridiculous! Or driving very slow to drive into the traffic lane instead of speeding up. Some even stop, don’t turn heads and really wait until absolutely no car is passing them. In the beginning, I was close to drive into this ….. well I don’t say it. 😅
Hi neighbor! Thanks for watching and for your expert commentary. Yes, I should have mentioned the Naturgy bill can be paid with a bank account. I agree with you in the waiters. I just wish they could find a happy medium. I would like for them to ask how you are doing just a little more often in Panama. Sorry you had the approval issues. Great advice concerning that. All in all, Panama is still a real place to live even with these minor annoyances
Thank you for your video. I think before moving to any place it is good to go visit and stay for a while then you can make a decision. Do a lot of research and talk to other expats.
Hi Sabrina！Thank you for watching and commenting. I agree!! People need to take at least one exploratory trip to see and decide for themselves. We are here to share information but encourage people to do their own research. I'm afraid this video has turned some away from Panama when that wasn't the intent at all. These are mostly minor annoyances compared to the massive issues in the U.S. So do you already live in Panama or are you considering a move?
@@ChosenFewExpats To tell you the truth my perception at first was exactly what you indicated. I am Panamanian living in the US for 40+ years and will return to Panama soon. Thus, I want to listen to other expats experiences. I realize that after so long living in the US it will take some time to get used to the new environment. We have to consider that each individual is a very unique entity no one is alike. We all have different desires and tolerances. I do appreciate your video/comments. By the way my name has no "r". Thank you. Warm wishes.
@arteface Please don't generalize about "Caribbean culture." It depends what social class you live around. If you are a cheap ex-pat and live amongst lower middle-class to poor ppl, you will ALWAYS have noise and ppl blasting their salsa/boleros/etc. Try playing loud music in Punta Pacifica, those rich ppl (rabiblancos) will shut you DOWN in a heartbeat with an army of cops.
Concerning traffic - surprise protests blocking roads. Can delay you easily an hour or more. Must take that into consideration when you have an appointment or traveling to catch a flight. I make it a point when flying out to stay in the City the night before. Still love Pañama. Been here 16 years ❤.
You hit it on the nail! The Garbage Collection System is absolutely broken in chaos, Not only are there dogs and cats in the road there were some roosters in the road down in Curundu trying to get on the interstate. The one thing you missed is the electric poles and the millions of cables on them going everywhere always catches my eye...now another thing is McDonald's has the McPollo Crispy Fried batches of chicken ooooh lawd and the cream cheese pies so good it's dangerous OMG! Oh and I got bitten by a tiny Chinche too! And everywhere I go the females are just dang fine just so many OMG...
You hit on a lot of good and bad right there. 😂 Chickens and roosters are everywhere in our neighborhood too but I see that as a positive. You're absolutely right on the electric poles and wires. Not just everywhere but exposed electrical outlets wires and no electrical covers is an eye opener too. The old school McD's apple pies with the fried, cripsy coatings are... 🔥🔥
@@jehuhutton937 Really for real I laugh too because I enjoy and love Panama so much.. I didn't mention the Diablo Rojo busses! There's maybe a few left today but years ago when I first got there these yellow busses were the transportation system decked out with chrome exhaust pipes, chrome rims, tinted windows, graffiti art, strobe lights and loud stereos! It cost only a quarter to ride.... It looked like something out of a Cheech and Chong movie.
Hi Gary and thanks so much. I hope this hasn't turned you off of Panama. These are mostly minor annoyances. Panama is still a great place to live. Please send me an email if you're still considering it. chosenfewexpats@gmail.com
Hi and thanks for watching. Yes, many developing nations have some of these issues. The difference is that Panama has a massive list of positives over most developing countries. Are you interested in moving to Panama? Where do you live now?
Excellent video. I wish most people would produce videos as good as this for prospective expats everywhere. Where do condos and apartments store the water? Despite all the advantages I don't think my wife and I have the nerves to put up with these problems in these countries. On the other hand we are losing patience we with all the crap going on in the US and Canada as well. I'd love to go to another planet!!
Thanks so much. We strive to produce high quality content. It does take a lot of time and effort to produce and edit these videos though. I assume they have large water tanks as ours does. It's an interesting dilemma. I was initially thinking about a house and some land but there is additional work and cost that comes with that. The outages are a big issue for those who are not prepared.
Glad to see a channel that tells the truth. I have lived here for 13 yrs, and know exactly what it's all about. Also you forgot to mention that there are Gringo Prices. This is very sad. I think if I owned a business here, I would have Panamanian prices LOL
Hi Michael and thanks for watching. I appreciate your kind words my brother. Yes, Gringo pricing can be an issue at times too. Great point! Where do you live?
These are the kind of behind the scenes Expat videos I wish more people would do because everywhere has something about it which makes it bad. The small town I grew up in here in New York currently has a population which is mostly retirees. The people who aren't retired have jobs that involve a lot of traveling for work. When I was a kid, there was no traffic in town because everyone worked at one of three factories or the local military base and everyone was always at work all day. Now because of the changes in demographics and the type of work people do, the traffic isn't bad, but the volume means a traffic light would be helpful on a lot of side streets that did not need them in the past, but they will never put up any such lights. It's a small annoyance, but little things like that effect quality of life.
Hi Jeremy. Thanks for watching and for the kind words my brother. This video rubbed a lot of people, mostly expats, the wrong way but almost all Panamanians agreed with it. You took it in the intended perspective and the example you gave of your hometown is perfect. Everything is relative and no place is a utopia. So, are you interested in making a move to Panama? If you have any questions, feel free to shoot me an email at... chosenfewexpats@gmail.com
@@ChosenFewExpats if I can ever get a business that allows for location independent income to work out for me it's on the list of places I consider making a move to, but it's a wide list. I'm probably more likely to be a perpetual tourist at least for a while if what I have worked on works out.
Thanks for watching. Brother in no way should you let this video turn you off of Panama. These are mostly minor annoyances. Mexico has some posivites but has far more serious negatives than Panama including being WAY more dangerous in general.
Hi Will and thanks for watching. Do they do that on tightly packed city streets during rush hour as well? I only had a video clip of it happening during slowed or stopped traffic on the highway. The lane in many areas of the city here are more narrow so it can still be an anxious moment for some people. I'm glad you're ready though! So are you planning a move to Panama? If so, please keep us posted on your progress. chosenfewexpats@gmail.com
My pleasure. Thanks so much for watching. I'm glad you seem to have taken this video in stride and as intended. These are mostly minor annoyances. So, are you considering a move to Panama? Where do you live now? So are you considering a move to Panama? Where do you live now? Please join us on Facebook at "Panama Relocation & Expat Experience" and check out our website at: panamarelocationonlinecourses.com
Thank you for sharing your experiences living in Panama. I'm currently living in the US, and I'm considering relocating to either Panama or Costa Rica within the next year or two. I noticed you didn't mention anything regarding crime, so is it relatively safe where you are?
Hi Cyndi. Thanks for watching and commenting. Yes, Panama is absolutely safe. Far safer than any average U.S. city. Costa Rica is as well. Very few people own guns so the violent crime rate is very low. Mass shootings, drive bys and things of that nature are unheard of here. Burglaries and petty theft are the most prevalent types of crime, especially in cases where homes are abandoned by expats who leave for months at a time. Costa Rica is beautiful and great as well but the biggest problem with CR is that it's very expensive as compared to Panama. Their sales tax is 13% with an additional mandatory service tax for many businesses like restaurants, hotels, etc. Panama's tax is a flat 7%. For this reason alone, many people move from Costa Rica to Panama. Also, Costa Rica has a tourism dependent economy whereas Panama doesn't. The economy is Panama is service driven with the foundation being $4.2 billion of annual Panama canal revenue along with having the 2nd largest free trade zone in the world. Also the use of the U.S. dollar keeps Panama's economy a stable one.
Tha is for your kind words. This video rubbed a lot of expats the wrong way for some reason but we need to tell people the truth! Even all of the Panamanians I know agreed with everything in this video.
It costs about $3-4 per month but they just burn it. There are recycling bins in some public places but there is not that kind of sorting at a residence. The same was the case for me in the U.S. I had one trash bin for everything.
@@ChosenFewExpats Oh boy, so people just take out their garbage every few days and set it on fire, with everything together in the field? Thousands of people doing it everywhere in the country?
@@dovygoodguy1296 No brother. Not most people of every household. It's just that if someone dumps something somewhere, others see it and they may dump something there too. Then someone else either gathers it up or more often times will burn it. The burning is much, much more of a thing for the fields and high brush than it is for the trash. You do see it on occasion for the trash.
Thanks for watching. I guess it depends on one's perspective. Many would say the protests are a huge inconvenience. Many would also say they understand the people's right to protest to effect change in their own country.
I would say the cost of living, considering that it is a 3rd world country. The price of homes, especially in PTY, is ridiculous. The COL in many medium size cities in the USA is lower than what it is in Panama, and again, Panama is still 3rd world.
Hi and thanks for watching. Panama is in now way a 3rd world country. It is designated as a rich country according to the World Bank. Panama is a developing country. Understood on your point concerning the high housing cost in some areas of the city. There are still plenty of low cost options.
@@ChosenFewExpats I would agree, there are options that are lowER cost than the high cost ones, but to say they are low cost, I disagree, but also acknowledge that 'low cost' is an inexact description, and it depends on what you are comparing them to. I compared them to the same basic thing in places like Ecuador, Bolivia, Argentina, Brazil, and in that context, they are not what I would call low cost. Comparing apples to apples, Brazil and Colombia are much lower cost than Panama. But the only thing that matters is, do you like it there and are you satisfied with the life you have, there, as compared to the cost of it. For me, other places were and are much better.
Hi, I am from Brazil and just came back from a trip to Panama and I asked the drivers about energy and water but they told me they have no problem with this, now I see that it’s not very true. Thank you for the information!
Hi Livia. I would say that it's not much of a problem at all. From their perspective for sure. These are mostly minor annoyances. I'm stating these things about power and water from the perspective of someone from a first world, highly developed country where there are almost never any power or water outages. I wouldn't say they were lying when you look at it from their point view.
Hello sir, I've been thinking about moving to Panama. Do you have a video on the good things about living there? Also. Is there a way I can contact you directly to maybe ask some advice and things?
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You left out corruption/graft/exploitation and gringo pricing! For me that is a bigger negative than the fact that customer service is poor or they speak fast with slurring and slang. That permanent outstretched palm gets to you after a while.
In & out of Panama close to 40yrs, married to my Panamainian bride 38yrs+, all the negatives are true. Made the move here in 2015, the happiest I've ever been. We live about 140miles north of capital, low mountains, got about 25acres, an of Xtrail. Live comfortable on retirement(not rich). Have small circle of friends-expats & locals, never going back to the states
Hi and thanks for watching. It's inspiring to hear your story. Thanks for sharing. Yea, it's Ben a wonderful experience living here. I have no desire to go back to the states either.
@@ChosenFewExpats BTW, never had an issue with medical care here
Amature, been here since 1997😅😅😂😂. Life was soo much better back then😅
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Please do a vid on healthcare in Panama....emergency room access, primary car doctors and quality, elder car, long term care, etc. Thanks!
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I was born in Panama 🇵🇦 and lived in many countries. Nowhere is perfect living in the US now and moving back to panama 🇵🇦 God willing after retirement 🙏. Live and visit other countries and it will give you a better perspective of life.
Hi and thanks for watching. I have visited over 30 countries and have a fine perspective of life. Is there anything I mentioned in this video thar isn't true? 99% of Panamanians in these comments don't have any issues with this video.
Obviously, no place is perfect and the U.S. has far worse negatives like mass murders, high rates of violent crime, people being torn apart along political, racial and gender lines, natural disasters, etc.
My perspective on life was that I didn't want to live in that environment which is precisely why I live in Panama. Panama is a great country and a great place to live but no place is paradise. This channel will continue to give people a realistic view of what to expect if moving to Panama.
I’ve been in Panama for 20 years. The biggest problem is the language. Can’t hear or understand words because they speak so fast. They also cut the words so you have no idea what they are saying. The trash has always been terrible. It is hard to except that there is trash all over this beautiful country. After so many years and still no government has made it a priority to clean up and teach not to through garbage everywhere. All the rest you learn to live with, because every country has the good and not so good. This is truly an excellent video. He says it all. The Panamanian people are wonderful!
Hi Annette and thanks for watching. I agree with all you said 100%. 💯💯💯
About the trash. Have you ever been to other provinces? There are many places where trash has never been an issue. That's mainly a big city issue very prominent in the capital.
Thank you for this well structured message. My wife and I are visiting Panama in August for a tour and considering retirement there. Panama is developing so much of what you say is to be expected. From what I am seeing though, Panama is heading in a positive direction in many metrics with some growing pains. To be expected. Unfortunately, I feel the US is currently heading in the wrong direction, for some time now and see little, if any corrective action being taken by our "leaders". Greed and lack of concern for others. Lost in the wilderness, so to speak. One can argue the US is devolving. Safety is a serious concern also. Looking forward to our trip. Good day, sir.
Hi James. Thanks for watching and for your kind words. Yes, Panama is a developing country so these are more like annoyances than anything.
As you mentioned, such a list if made for the U.S. would be terrifying! That said, we did want to make known a realistic view.
One thing I should have mentioned is that you can pay the energy bill online IF you have a Panamanian bank account.
As for the conditions in the U.S., I believe it's being imploded on purpose. There is no other reasonable explanation for what is going on and the lack of effort to slow down or stop it. It is being destroyed on every level imaginable be it political, economic, social, racial, etc.
As a person who studies the bible, America is also on the wrong end of its prophecies and we're seeing that play out now. It will only continue to get worse until it falls. That aspect isn't something I discuss on these videos as it may be a sensitive topic for some.
However that did inspire the name of this channel because there are on a Chosen Few with the eyes to see and the will to get out of there.
Please keep me posted on the progress of your trip planning and visit. chosenfewexpats@gmail.com
James, I totally agree with you in regards to how the US seems to be going somewhat in a "bass ackwards" kind of way...so-to-speak. "Greed and lack of concern for others" is a rather polite way of putting it. Good luck to you and your wife on your visit this summer!
Leaving the political hellscape that is Florida for Costa Rica or Panama, you summed up our country pretty well. Can’t wait to roll out!
@@ChosenFewExpats without a doubt, Deliberate actions iro USA. 😒
@@DayOneAdeleFans So which way are you leaning? Costa Rica or Panama? Shoot me an email sometime. chosenfewexpats@gmail.com
I don't know if you are from the USA but most of these negatives you find in the US just depending on where you are the USA. They are not unique to Panama.
Hi Robert and thanks for watching. Yes, we are from the U.S. I'm from Gary, IN which was the murder capital of the world for most of the years between the late 80's and early 2000's.
While what you stated is true for some of these negatives, there are several here that are fairly unique to many Latin countries. We never stated at any of these were unique to Panama.
Also, please keep in mind that if we made a list of 15 negatives for the U.S., while some of these may apply as negatives... they would never make the top 15.
Such a list for the U.S. would be something like... high rate of violent crime, freezing weather, too many people owning guns, mass shootings, drag shows for kids, racism and hate crimes, tornadoes, hurricanes, outrageous health care costs, etc. Panama doesn't have any of these negatives.
Nice one 💯
@@ChosenFewExpats while this is a true statement, your video could easily be interpreted as a critique coming from a hypocritical p.o.v.
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@@ChosenFewExpatswhooohoo! Absolutely correct
Bruh! This was thorough and really real. Not fluff and no bluff. THANK YOU!!
Hi Jason. Thanks so much for your kind words brother? So, where do you live? Any interest in moving to Panama? If so, please don't let this video turn you off. These are mostly minor annoyances.
I'm a Panamenian who left at 10 years of age. Now I've been back this last year since my mother passed away.
You forgot the medical and pharmaceutical aspect of it. It is cheaper than the U.S. but for the common folks, access to medicine is ridiculous, pharmacies sometimes do not have the medicines one needs.
The transportation is a joke, specially when it comes to the bus system. You do find plenty of taxis, pirate buses and the limited train, but if you don't have the funds for a taxi, because it will get expensive, the bus system is so unreliable. You will get an hour of no busses coming through one side yet the other side 10 buses have passed by. And when they finally make it your way, there will be 3 to 4 buses of the same route at once. So there is no bus schedule even though Google Maps thinks there is a schedule. The bus drivers drive as if they were still driving their Diablo Rojos, which used to be independent buses who literally would speed like crazy just to beat the next Diablo Rojo to the next stop and clients. As a previous minivan chauffeur with plenty of defensive driving courses taken, and safety ingrained into my brain, I can not comprehend why these "professional" drivers, speed, cut off, tail gate, stop for no apparent reason with a bus full, no dangerously filled with passengers, drive the way they do. They are hourly employees so what's the rush?
Also, many communities have zero side walks, the road itself is barely wide enough for two buses to safely pass by one another, so imagine having to walk on the road since there is no sidewalk. Not to mention Panama is NOT inclusive of the handicap community. When you do have a side walk, 99% will not be equipped with proper ramps at the street corner pedestrian crossings.
For the past 35 years, I've been yearning to return home but because I'm here within the circumstances that I am and do not have a job nor the funds coming in as needed to live comfortably as I did in the U.S. even as a poor single mother of 4, I am totally wanting to return to the U.S.
Perhaps once I'm ready to retire, things will be better planned out for my return but living in the San Miguelito ghetto, with all the trash, noise pollution, faulty bus system, food prices as high as Texas, and inadequate side walks and safety I've had enough of Panama.😢😅Y'all don't know how much I'm missing Texas, my F-150 and my open roads so I can just go on my road trips to enjoy the wild flowers. 😂🙃
Wow! Thanks for watching and for all of your insight in Panama. I'm sorry you're having a difficult time but I'm shocked you would want to go back to the U.S.
Have you considered a less congested area of Panama than the San Miguelito area?
I also live in Panama. Many people here prefer to walk in the road instead of using the sidewalk. Drivers do not know how to use turn signals. Horns are not used as a warning device. They are used whenever the driver is frustrated or angry. As soon as a traffic light turns green people begin to lean on the horn. Panama City is one noisy and chaotic place.
😂 I know you weren't intending to be funny but I cracked up. This definitely sobered me ❤😂😂. Hope you gather all resources to return state side ❤❤
you are lucky to be able to live in the US, I've been trying for years to do it the right way, for me to get over there, but there are so many headaches and requirements for ppl who want to do it the legal way.
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Easily the best country in Central America. Best country in the western hemisphere and one of the top overall places to live n the world if you ask me.
This is a very relevant video. I am here in Panama now. I've experienced 75% of the items you've listed thus far.
Hi and thanks for watching. We appreciate you taking the time to comment. Are you here permanently? If so, how long have you been here?
Very informative video! It’s always good to know not just the good, but the negatives so that you can prepare as best as possible for them. Definitely still considering Panama as my new home from the US.
Hi Charlie and thanks for watching. I'm so glad you took this video as intended. These are mostly annoyances and are nothing compared to the mass murders, etc. negatives of the U.S. Panama is an amazing place to live!!
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The uneven distribution of wealth is very prominent in the US and other developed countries too.
Hi and thanks for watching. Yes, that's true. The same can be said for other things on this list as well. The major issue with that in Panama is that they have the money to help a lot more. There are only 4.5 million people here.
Also keep in mind that although an issue in the U.S., this may not even make a top 15 list for the U.S. Other issues such as mass shootings, high violent crime rate, high inflation, poisoned food, destruction of property in protests, people divided along political, racial and every line imaginable, etc. that Panama does not have would all top this in my opinion.
I currently live in Port Saint Lucie FL. Some of the things your talking about in this video I deal with in the US. I have been to Panama three times and there are cons however the pros definitely outweigh the negatives for me. The biggest negative here in the US is the taxes. So many of my former coworkers have to go back to work because they simply can’t afford health insurance.
Hi Ken. Thanks for watching and commenting. No way am I saying these things are exclusive to Panama and agree with you that the pros heavily outweigh the cons.
Yes... taxes, healthcare, mass shootings, violent crimes, high inflation, people divided along every line possible, etc. Therefore plenty of issues to choose from my brother.
Good job
Living in Lake Worth, FL. Agree re: taxes and health insurance, plus the U.S. imposed medical standard of care, the political corruption ... Am evaluating different countries like Panama.
Gurl AMEN....PANAMA exit strategy already in place. I lived in Jamaica for 12 years and loved it ...saved enough money to buy a major investment... Would never in a million years own what I own there. Medical system and low crime and low cost of living ...we don't have have of these blessings ..sand flies and all...lol. I have a business that sell nontoxic insect repellent.
@@normabroome5845Thank you!
Hey Alonzo…. TIP- this is Panama! Your list is spot on. Lived in the city for 4 months and it was the trash for me… did something to my soul 😢. But I love Panama even with all the annoyances. No place is perfect. Thanks for sharing your experiences.
Hi Aprell! Thanks so much for watching and commenting as well as for your kind words. So, where do you live now if you don't mind me asking?
@@ChosenFewExpats I’m back in the states, for now… living in Georgia.
@@aprelltaylor4535 So do you plan on returning?
@@ChosenFewExpats I plan to return eventually, I have a teenage son so duty calls at home. I had a job at an international school for him but he decided not to join me so I quit and returned home.
This statement right here, "the trash did something to my soul", you are spot on. It's literally eating at my soul, specially the "no recycling" stand or lack of stand from the government itself.
I was told by a taxi driver that some years back, China came asking to take all of our trash for free, yet the greedy Panamenian government wanted China to pay is for our trash. What??? So here we stand, living and rotting in trash. 💔💔💔
Realistic expectations prevent disappointment. This video is very helpful in that regard. Thank you!
Hi and thanks for watching. Thanks for your comment and your understanding. Many people for some reason took this video as me bashing Panama but as you said, it's just about setting expectations. Most of these issue are minor annoyances more than anything but will be an adjustment for many people coming from a fully developed nation like the U.S. Panama in spite of these issues is still a great place to live with many, many positives.
Are you considering a move to Panama?
@@ChosenFewExpats We are indeed. Panama is currently at the top of our shortlist.
@@d-tech5338How many years out are you from a potential move? Shoot me an email sometime. chosenfewexpats@gmail.com
With so many UA-camrs singing about the glory of life In Panama or elsewhere, it’s refreshing and VERY valuable to have someone take the time to run down the “negatives” which people also need to know about, so thank you!
Hi Wes and thanks for watching. Thanks also for your reasonable perspective. So many people took this video the wrong way.
As I stated, these are mostly minor annoyances. Things people need to know but certainly not as bad as the mass shootings, social and political strife, high inflation, natural disasters, etc. of the U.S.
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Is really interesting to see the other side of the coin as you moving from other country to ours, this an educational way to see what we need to improve and how to improved.... really appreciated I will pass the word as is a great opportunity for make the quality of live better ...... once again a BIG THANKS!!
Buenas noches! Thank you such for your comment. It really means a lot to me!
I'm still shocked by how many expats disliked this video saying some very mean things to me concerning it.
Just because someone points out some areas of improvement doesn't mean they don't love Panama. Me encanto tu pais!
Gracias!!
I love the U.S., but can't wait to leave. Praying God makes a way 🙏 ❤️
Hi Elizabeth and thanks for watching. If you want out of there, he absolutely will make a way! Send me an email sometime. chosenfewexpats@gmail.com
Really helpful video but I’m so glad that none of the negative things you mentioned has anything to do with safety, so that’s good 👍.
Hi Carlos and thanks for watching. Yes, I agree. These are mostly minor annoyances. A similar list for the U.S. would be packed full of safety related issues. So, are you considering a move to Panama? If so, shoot me an email sometime. chosenfewexpats@gmail.com
So basically Panama is South Carolina without a winter 😂
🤣😁 I don't know about that one Chris. You'll have to come see and let me know. One of our friends in our building is from SC.
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@@JasminThomas-r1p explain please
Bruh! You are spot on! I was stationed there from 1991-94 Everything you mentioned I experienced. I was heavily considering the D.R. because it reminds me of Panama. But I have shifted to consider Panama. Yes there's good and bad everywhere. All the things you mentioned I can say I've seen in the D.R. but I will get more for my buck there, (in Panama), and there's less people trying to "fleece" me because I am a gringo 😅😅😅 That $20.00 in your pasporte/licencia de conducir is a life saver 😅 Been there, done that!😅 Panama is for me🇺🇲🇵🇦
Hey Walter! Thanks for watching my brother. I'm so glad you took this video the right way because many didn't. These are mostly minor annoyances. Panama is a great place to live with a ton of positives. Shoot me an email sometime and check out our website. chosenfewexpats@gmail.com
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Will do Brother! I am in the D.R. in May. I am planning to come there Oct/Nov time frame, because it will be 30yrs to-the-date that I PCSs'ed from Panama, (Ft. Kobbe), back to the US and Ft. Polk, La.
Now this is the information I needed to hear. Panama was on my radar when I move next year. I was torn between Panama and the Philippines. Both are great places to live, but this information is a great help in making a decision on where to move for a couple of years.
Hi Bobby and thanks for watching. This video is in no way meant to discourage anyone from moving to Panama. These are mostly minor annoyances and growing pains that come with any developing country. That applies to the Philippines as well. Panama is still a fantastic place to live. I've spent some time in the Philippines also. I love it and the people. Very nice, like Panamanians. Aside from better customer service, you'll encounter pretty much all the same issues or worse. The Philippines does have a lower cost of living though. However Panama is by far the better choice when considering many factors such as banking, the economy, weather (no hurricanes or typhoons), low rate of violent crime, etc. Shoot me an email sometime on how things are progressing with your decision. chosenfewexpats@gmail.com
@@ChosenFewExpats Thank you so much for the information, and I will definitely shoot you an email. I appreciate that!!!
Former US Air Force member here who lived in the Philippines for almost 3 years. It was great but I had the benefit of the Air Force base in my corner. The PI has changed a lot since the Air and Navy bases closed. It does not seem as safe anymore, and the healthcare system is third world.
@@RB-gt8bfI love the Filipino people. Panamaians are also very nice. You should strongly consider it.
After spending some time in Belize, I'll take these negatives anytime. I loved Belize and it doesn't have anywhere near the infrastructure of Panama
Hi and thanks for watching. Agreed, my brother. Everything is relative. All of these places beat living in America in my opinion. How long did you live in Belize? At least they speak English. That's an advantage, right?
@@ChosenFewExpats I was only there for about a week. My wife and I seriously considered moving there. Panama was brought to my attention and I started looking into it. It had all the things I liked about Belize with a better infrastructure and great healthcare. We will be visiting Panama City in December. I can't wait.
What's up brother? Did you make it to Panama? How was your visit?
Thanks! Panama wasn't high on my list of options, but your comprehensive list of negatives reminded me and in some cases alerted me to issues I have to look into before I move to one of the places I _am_ seriously considering.
Hi Al and thanks for watching. You comment is perfect in the sense that these and other items we cover in our channel are factors that people need to consider no matter where they are planning to move.
Even with these minor annoyances, Panama is a fantastic option. I honestly do know if a place that check more positive boxes for me.
If you don't mind me asking, what countries are you considering? With all of the positives, why wasn't Panama a high option?
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Wow! Substitute the name and you've actually described living in Bangkok 100%! I lived with ALL those "negatives" in The Land of Smiles for years. I'm looking for a change in local and lifestyle now but I'm definitely taking Panama City (other locations in the country still possible) off my list of possibilities. Been there, Done that, or as the Thai would say "Same Same but Different!"
Hi and thanks for watching. Yes, similar for Thailand and many other developing nations as well. These are mostly minor annoyances to me compared to all of the positives.
What's your ideal country now then?
Thanks for this honest and informative video!
Thanks for watching. Please don't let these minor annoyances discourage you. Panama is still a great place to live.
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Very informative. You addressed the things I had questions about.
Hi Maria. I'm glad this helped. I hope these mostly minor annoyances haven't discouraged you from considering Panama. Are you planning to move here? Please keep posted. Send an email at chosenfewexpats@gmail.com
I've been to Panama, thought about relocating there, spent three months there, last January-March, you nailed a lot of the negatives, but there are also many positives, I think snow birding is my best option, we squired pension ado visas
You're right. These are mostly minor annoyances compared to a place like the U.S. right now. Even Canada has many freedoms being taken away.
Unfortunately, it seems like this video turned some people off of Panama but that was not the intent at all. Panama is still an amazing place to live.
Congrats on getting your residency! The snowbird option isn't a bad one. Many people split the time fairly evenly and love it. Thanks again.
Was in Panama January, February ,March .of 2022, and everything you mention is spot on, but There's an allure that makes me want to come back, and I will
Hi John and thanks for watching. I'm glad you had a great trip!
I'm also very glad that you can absorb this information and still see the big picture. These are mostly annoyances and pale in comparison to the negatives of living in the U.S. for example. Pamama is still a great place to live!
So when do you think you'll return? Are you planning to visit or relocate? Shoot me an email sometime: chosenfewexpats@gmail.com
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OMG!!! Hello, my brutha! I am soooo glad you did this top 15 + honorable mentions! This is by far one of the best true videos I've seen over these past several months on the REAL DEAL of Panama :) Even with the info one of my dear friends who moved there about a year ago shared with me; you hit pretty much all of the other marks on my list of things to be aware of. I did already know of a good bit of them, but you covered them more objectively and I thank you! All in all; none of these are a turn off nor deal breaker for me as I am looking forward to making my preliminary trip down there to check things out before the end of this year. Being the realist that I am, I am approaching this with the same realistic viewpoint as when I was preparing to enlist in the military many moons ago. Spare me on the "fluff" as that part is a given...lol! Provide me with an honest perspective of the reality of what I'm looking at getting into and I can objective make an informed decision based upon that.
Again, much appreciated for this and I am even more-so looking forward to Panama being my future retirement or (semi retirement) spot by this time next year.
What's up my brother? What's your name? I just saw your other message. Thanks so much for your kinds words. We are going to shoot it to you straight on this channel. Like you said, nine of these are deal breakers but more so annoyances. The positives FAR outweigh the negatives.
Shoot me an email at chosenfewexpats@gmail.com Keep us posted on the progress with your move. As you progress with it, we offer personal consultations if interested. You already have a great resource with your friend too though.
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Thanks for the reply! Btw... my name is Mark Pressley. I actually meant to say "are not deal breakers". Definitely, my friend is/ has been very helpful with info she's been providing me. I will follow up with you via your Gmail info and will look at the members option. No such thing as too much knowledge!
@@house-headsmusic4950 Hey Mark, nice to meet you brother. Yeah, I figured that's what you meant. It's great that you have your friend as a resource. That's a huge advantage that most people don't have. You're right, we can never have too much information. Definitely shoot me an e-mail sometime.
Exactly!!!! I'm the same way! Give me the real deal Holyfield information and leave out the fluff.
@@bobbythespaceghost51 Thanks brother. I appreciate it.
So we live here in Panama and you nailed every single negative that we have encountered.
Great video for people who are considering coming here or living here. You don't really hear the true negatives on all the other Panama sites.
Thanks for the great informative video!
Hi and thanks for watching. I really appreciate your kind words. Although most of these are more so annoyances, it's important for people to understand as much as they can about the country they are considering moving to. Many of the other Panama content creators and expats in general were not happy with me about this video but... oh well! Ironically, almost all Panamanians agreed completely with it.
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...and, because everybody is different, and has different wants and needs and tastes, one of those 15 might be a serious deal breaker. So, if you didn't know about any of these annoyances or negatives, you might spend a bunch of your money finding out the expensive way, as opposed to watching this video and and saying to yourself "oh hell no, not for me!"
Panamá is not for everyone!
You have cracked me up😆! Everything you said about Panamá is so true but I still love her “mi Patria querida! I am a former born and raised Zonian from Panamanian parents and a father who was a Canal Zone employee. It has been many years since I left my beloved Panamá behind but I miss her and can’t wait to visit there again. The fires are something I miss so much as a child. Not just the smell but the little burnt blades of charcoaled grass drifting in the air to catch and pinch with your fingers and get the charcoal on them. What you said about the way Panamanians speak fast and omit letters in words such as “oye como tú taj” instead of “oye cómo tu estás?” They know how to say it correctly but it is kind of a slang or Panamanian accent. I used to think that we Panamanians did not have an accent until I heard them speak after many years and boy…they definitely do! I speak more neutral but I can speak that way for fun with my siblings. I have had to interpret for many years and I made sure to pronounce words completely and speak more neutral or “educated”. They do it like a fun way of speaking, but I commend you on learning Spanish. It always warms the heart of Panamanians to hear an American or any foreigner make the effort to learn the language. By the way Cubans, Puertoricans and Dominicans actuality speak faster and gobble up even more letters in words when they speak than Panamanians do😄. I have to thank you for explaining so many facts about the country that I didn’t even know such as the exact time of the sunrise and sunsets, a bit more about the climate, etc. But yes, punctuality is something that is not practiced so much in panama and that would drive us Americans crazy for sure. I wonder if they hunk their horns like crazy still in the city of panama when in traffic. I remember that people were pretty aggressive drivers and would hunk their horns almost as extensions of speech over there. Here in the states it is a rarity or very rude to hunk a horn in a car unless it is being done to prevent an accident, etc. I felt for my poor father driving back then. I moved to the states as a teen and so did my immediate family so I have lost touch with so much from there. I can’t wait to go there on vacation with friends and family. I miss the food and the gorgeous palm trees and the tropical breezes. It has changed and grew so much and from what I used to know many years ago. I love that so many expats live there now and that they share in UA-cam their experiences. Thank you so much for sharing in your channel. You are doing an exceptional job!
Hi Jessica and... WOW!! Thanks so much for watching and for your insight as a Panamanian. Me encanto tu pais!!
The positive feedback is refreshing. I've had that from all Panamanians about this video but it struck a nerve with many expats.
People act like you can't speak the truth on these issues (more like annoyances tha negatives) and still love this country.
Thanks again for watching and for your kind words. Come on home! Your first sancocho I am on me!
😢😮Everything you said sounds like The USA DC DC NewYork Philly LA Boston 😮thanx I wont be coming there😂😂😂❤
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I am in Chiriqui Provence near the Costa Rica border. I'd have to add a couple of things to your list. One is access to decent food and goods. Sounds silly since I am in Chiriqui (Panama's bread basket). Here we see the best food shipped daily to Panama City and we are left with veg several days old, poor quality bread, high carb cheap food staples, etc. I need to travel 2 hrs + each way to have an opportunity to buy anything better. At the same time, at beach level it is too hot to grow my own. Same distance (or more) required to procure other goods - anything of any quality. Panama goes for cheaply made imports - the society has a throw away mentality. Cheap style goods (not inexpensive) and unregulated, often less talented labor can and does result in shoddy craftsmanship. This is less prevalent in the city. Another issue out here is the extreme gringo pricing issues. Nothing is marked so everything is a discussion. Even utilities are gringo priced - and rental housing, speeding tickets, casual labor, transportation - everything. This is not enough to sustain the community financially so there is theft, begging, exploitation and patronage. Don't come here thinking you will be able to live "on the cheap" - it will cost less than N. America or Europe but it isn't cheap. Finally I must mention the frequent protests. This is the way the citizens manage opposition to decisions made by the government. If you are not a citizen you must refrain from participating and commenting in public. They will close the roads, set fires and otherwise command attention/ disrupt until they are heard. This is not infrequent. Whatever you think about it or however inconveinient, this is a time honored way of managing disagreement here. The discomfort of being under siege is less important than creating opportunity for chango. We just stock up and prepare when the rumblings begin.
Hi Susan. I'm so sorry for the very late reply. Thanks for your great comments and knowledge. I pray things have gotten back to normal in Chiriqui.
So many of these sounded so much like southern rural Louisiana until it made me wonder why I'm leaving, LOL!!!! Here we burn the sugar cane fields etc. after harvest. You get over the smell and eye irritation after a few weeks. But the bugs, tranquillo service, power and water outages during hurricane season, etc. etc.
Hi and thanks for watching. Yes, many of the issues in the U.S. and other countries.
You're leaving because nine of these items would make such a list of the top 15 negatives for living in the United States.
That list would include things like mas shootings, high murder rates, high violent crime rate, high inflation, an eroding economy, people divided along every line possible (racial, political, etc) on top of the natural disasters, etc.
Panama doesn't have any of these things. Tornadoes are extremely rare and it has never been hit by a hurricane.
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I've been to Costa Rica five years in a row, 6-8 weeks at a time, escaping NY winter. This is very helpful and a good prep for what seems will be some differences. My take aways, are to avoid the traffic on weekends, there is GOING to be noise, there Will be trash. Like you, I speak a bit of Spanish and did okay in CR, but Panamanian Spanish seems quite different, not enunciated (like in CR), so that too is a good tip. Great presentation, well organized, with a couple helpful video visuals. GRACIAS, amigo!
Hi Jim and thanks for watching. Thanks for your kind words. Yes, you'll find Costa Rica to be similar except for the trash. I believe it's more clean but is far more expensive.
Excellent video. Appreciate how clear you were on the various points.
Hi Krystel and thank for watching. These are mostly minor annoyances. Panama is a fantastic place to live. Are you considering a move here? Feel free to send me an email at chosenfewexpats@gmail.com
Nailed it!!! 🤭🙈🤦🏽♂️ traffic alone can be a dealbreaker for many, especially if you gotta travel across the bridges to and from Panamá oeste. These some of the things I don’t miss from my home country 🤪🙈🙈
Hi and thanks for watching. None of these are intended to be dealbreakers. It's unfortunate if they are. These are mostly minor annoyances. Panama is a great place to live with a ton of positives that far outweigh these things. Come on back home brother!
I don't know how you can make this video and not mention.
1) The indoor plumbing sucks. The toilets are all terrible and flush slowly.
2) Unmaintained dangerous metal rebar drain areas which you can fall in and break your leg.
3) Expensive groceries. Rey is nuts... for a supposed developing country I found grocery prices somewhat high.
4) 4GLTE cell phone coverage only... 5G is not available at all.
But yeah the TOILETS ARE TERRIBLE..AHHHH... leave the city some of these problems are lessoned but still exist... see Boquete.
Hi and thanks for watching. Plumbing is not an issue for the condos expats tend to live in or homes they tend to rent.
Most locals shop at El Matchetazo or Super 99 for lower cost.
Agreed on you other points. Most people's attention spans are very short. It's hard to place so my items in video that would make it too long.
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Can you believe Panama City doesn't even rank among the top 10 Latin American cities with worst traffic? Bogota takes the cake and Porto Alegre, Brasil, comes in at #10.
Hey brother and thanks for commenting. Yes, I can believe it. Bogota, Rio, Sao Paulo, etc are much larger cities in terms of population. The issue for Panama is more about the layout and how people drive.
Thanks Sir for you valuable information to anyone that want to move to my Country. I myself have problems adapting to those things you mentioned. I have lived most part of my life out of Panama.
You're welcome and thanks for watching. Me encanta tu pais!! Panama is amazing. I pray people don't take this video the wrong way. It is in no way meant to discourage people from moving here. These are mostly just annoyances and not major issues.
So, where do you live now and when are you coming home??
@@ChosenFewExpatsSorry for my late response. I did not see your reply I guess biased on not expecting an answer from the owner of the youtube channel. I could tell you like very much Panama which is amazing to me in fact I feel kind of envy of your patience towards the flaws in Panama system. Don't worry about people from Panama taking your concernings in wrong way: to some panamenians are hard to accept facts. Regardless your question I live in NY and planing to go back by the end of the year, my location gonna be in Los Santos province. Hope you understand my way of write....
Don't compare infrastructure with U.S. - The potholes on Wilshire Blvd in downtown Los Angeles, CA. - could be compared to the potholes in Ohio.... or the sinkholes in Florida... if you try to compare, you will become unhappy where ever you land!
Hi Bobby and thanks for watching. I will absolutely compare sir. People who are moving here need to have an understanding of what the reality is. They can only know that based on comparing things in Panama to what they know back home. It doesn't always mean that someone will end up unhappy. It's more so about setting expectations.
Awesome video! Thanks so much for sharing your perspective.
Thanks so much for watching for for understanding. This video sadly rubbed many expats the wrong way. These are mostly minor annoyances and were as you said.... just my perspective.
Like your videos!! Your honest. Thank you
Thanks for watching and for your kind words. Yes, we are going to tell it like it is on this channel based on our experiences.
New subscriber. Visited PC several yrs ago. Your info is so insightful. Considering making a move to PC w/in the yr. Thank you Sir.
exelente! Also I heard about something called a push through. It's like this: The traffic doesn't clear enough for you to cross both lanes of traffic; so you just cross the first lane and hang out there in the middle of the road until there is a pause in the second lane and you can get yourself across and hope no one smashes into you!!! You have a real gift for videos, I look forward to seeing more of your work.
Hi Sandra. Thanks for watching and for your kinds words. I've never heard the term but have seen that... only a couple of times.
People cross busy highways often but mostly wait on the side until things are clear. Still scary for me as a driver though. Panama can stand to have a few more crossing bridges in some areas. The thing is... even with a crossing bridge,.many will just take their chances and cross the road anyway.
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Very accurate! Specially the distribution of wealth!!
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Hi Danielle! How have you been? Thanks so much for watching and commenting. These negatives for me are mostly just annoyances. A similar list for the U.S. would be much, much worse. I definitely love your beautiful country!
I pay Tigo, Claro and Naturgy and order groceries all online. I’ve been here over a year and I’ve never had to pay an utility in person using cash.
Hi Cheryl. How have you been? Thanks for the info. I just need to find the online info for Naturgy now that it appears they have an online option. I thought it was only possible to do automatic ACH transfers with your bank account information online for Naturgy, not pay via credit card or debit card. Is that correct? If so, I'm not sure that I'd want to sign up for automatic payments.
I've been here for over 2 years and had to pay in person initially for Naturgy and Tigo. If you know how I can pay Naturgy online via a debit or credit card, please let me know.
Great video ❤
Good presentation, the message is patience, if you ain't got it, don't go. Most informative, thanks. Panama relocation tours and others promoting Panama show you all the good stiff, like paradise.
Hi Bill. Thanks for watching and commenting. Your perspective is the exact take we were hoping people would get from this. These are mostly minor annoyances but just setting expectations.
Many people including other Panama expats, realtors, etc. came out harshly against me for this video because they want people to believe Panama is a utopia. No such place exists on this earth.
However, Panama has a ton of positives and is still a great place to live.
Thank you for the very informative video. Visiting a place as a tourist can be much different than living there.
I always wanted to experience living overseas. I’m retired now. I moved to Bangkok Thailand for three years. Just recently moving back to the states.
It was ok n the beginning. But after a while certain things just became annoying. Much different from being just a tourist than an expat.
Hi Mike. Thanks for watching and commenting. Your experience as an expat gave you the intended point of view with this view. It's just information people need to understand concerning these (for me) mostly minor annoyances before they move here.
This video was in no way intended to discourage people from moving to Panama. Panama is still an amazing place to live.
I don’t understand the negative comments. You are “commenting” not “complaining”. I have several friends who have bought in Coronado (but aren’t living there full time). They love it.
I appreciate your honesty and forthright approach!
Hi Ann and thanks so much for your kind words. I agree! I was shocked by the backlash. 99.9% from expats. Most Panamanians had no issue with the video. I'm so glad that you absorbed it in the context that I intended. These are mostly minor annoyances
@@ChosenFewExpats I lived overseas for 3 years (Israel in the 70s, when it was pretty undeveloped) and sure could have used some observations like yours beforehand!
Yes, I'm passionate about helping people to feel more comfortable with this type of move.
I have been thinking about retiring in Panama early in 2025. The only thing that may be a concern for me would be the Noseeums. I had a bad reaction to them while vacationing in North Captiva Island on the gulf of Mexico in the US a few years back.
Hi Peter. Thanks for watching. They are really more of an issue in Bocas del Toro. If you're considering Panama City or the Pacific beaches, there shouldn't be much of an issue.
I'm from NYC - the negatives in Panama are still paradise! Thanks for telling it like it is!
Hi Louisa. I know that's right! You said it best.
I've been living in Mexico for over 5 years now, and it would be hard to believe that there aren't any apps that you can use to pays your utilities. Mexico does. I'll be visiting Panama this Friday and getting condo at the Yacht Club Towers next week. My Spanish is good and most folks who decide to live in Spanish speaking countries should learn the language. All in all, when you compare other countries to the United States, you will ALWAYS be disappointed all the way down to the foods that you can't find that you're used to. I also tell folks to DO YOUR RESEARCH before you decide to live in another country!
Hi David. Thanks for watching and for your insightful comments as a fellow expat my brother. YOu can pay all of your bills online with the exception of your energy bill if you don't have a Panama bank account. I neglected to mention that.
Having lived in Mexico for 5 years and your Spanish being that good is a huge advantage. More people really do need to try harder to learn the language to have the best experience. We're glad people are watching but encourage them to do their own research as you said. Everyone is different in terms of what they are willing to deal with. In my opinion, none of these minor annoyances can come close to comparing the madness that's going on in the U.S. right now. It's only going to get worse.
I’m currently doing research and I’m undecided between moving to Mexico, probably Merida or Queretaro, or moving to Panama.
Speaking Spanish is not an issue as I was born in Spain.
Any thoughts that you can share about living in Mexico would be very much appreciated.
Are you considering moving to Panama? If so why?
Thanks in advance.
@@p.c.h.6721 Well as you stated, speaking Spanish not an issue for you so I think you may rather enjoy it here. I really enjoyed my time in Mexico and I've assisted many in becoming a first time expat. After living Baja California Norte and then living in Playa Del Carmen, I found myself getting bored. I've done everything that there is do. In all of that, I had some inspirations that I would find my person to share my life with, but to no avail. Those two things caused me to do some research on my next location. In the end, I decided to move to Panama. I recently visited Panama and I secured a condominium and have signed my lease. I move on August 4th. I hope this answers your questions. Feel free to reach out anytime for more information.
@@ChefDeejays
Thank you so much!
I will carry on doing more research, I have a family so I don’t want to end up moving them from country to country. I want to find a country, either Mexico or Panama seem like good options, where we can settle down and stay there for the foreseeable future (we are done with socialist Europe.)
I hope you finally find someone to share your life with, you never know when that will happen, it can be someone you meet randomly or someone from one of those dating sites on the internet, give it a try, at the very least you’ll go out on a few dates and you’ll have some fun (I met my wife through a messaging app 23 years ago after I ended with a broken heart from a previous relationship who turned out to be a Gold digger, 7 years of my life wasted, but that situation led me to find my current wife.)
Best of luck and enjoy Panama, if I decide to move there I’ll contact you again, stay strong and hopeful ✌️
@@ChefDeejays How do you like Panama after living there for several months? Thanks!
Thanks - really appreciate this video!
Thanks for watching Paulette! These are mostly minor annoyances. Panama is great! So are you planning a move here?
Just watched a report on NBC Nightly News about the pothole problem in the USA. I guess Panama is not so unique in that 😂
Thanks for sharing. It's definitely an issue in the U.S. with the snow and ice getting into cracks and opening holes. It's not usually an issue in the U.S. where there are areas of new asphalt though.
traffic in 2000-03, when i was there quite often, was so much better. it was actually fun to drive around in the city.
Wow, really? That's unimaginable. Where do you live now?
The traffic and early sunset issues sound just like Phoenix, AZ. Also the the issue with trash seems to be a global one. While traveling the countryside of Morocco, I was amazed at how trash was alongside the roads.
Hi and thanks for watching as well as adding your comments. I haven't spent much time in AZ but that's interesting. I shouldn't make the trash situation sound so, so terrible but it's just a negative that's high on my list. Areas in many U.S. cities are just as bad.
@@ChosenFewExpats we've become mass consumers of cheap stuff so, we just throw it away when it no longer works or suits us.
@@palmchina Sadly, that is so true. We all need to do better.
I'm in Phoenix, Arizona right now. It's not a big deal to me.
Thanks for the video. It’s spot on. I’ve been living in the US for 35 years and so used to things here that when I go home ( Panama) it looks so different. Traffic is definitely #1. I don’t even drive there. I avoid the city as much as possible or don’t go out much. Most of the things you said are true. The insects ? Well it’s the tropic, the rain? Yes it rains like 7 months/ out of the year. Enjoy that. We don’t see it much in the States. Go and enjoy the country side. Chiriqui, Bocas del Toro, San Blas. DONT feel like a stranger, people are nice overall. Enjoy the food, the sun, and the beaches. From a nostalgic Panamanian 🥰👋🏼 🇵🇦
Hi and thanks for watching. Me encanta tu pais! 35 years is too long. Come on back home! Te esperamos!!
Great information and you do a great job sharing negative Information!
My husband and I really like your personality!
We are in the process of moving to Panama.
Looking at the Buenaventura area.
Hopefully we will meet you and your wife someday. Can't wait to say goodbye to 110 degree heat in AZ!
Thanks for watching and for your kind words. I'm sure you all are excited about your move! Approximately when are you all planning to come? Please shoot me an email at: chosenfewexpats@gmail.com. Most of these items in my opinion are more so annoying than negative so it's not to hard to deliver. I'm still amazed at the backlash this video received almost totally from expats. All of the Panamanians I know who either commented or told me personally that they agreed with all of it. After all, it is the truth although some expats didn't like hearing it. Panama isn't perfect. No place is but Panama is still a GREAT country to live in. Buenaventura is really nice. Yes, I'm sure we'll connect. Stay cool. I heard it's been above 110 for nearly 3 weeks! That's just crazy!!
Living in Arizona too, and yes, it's often unbearable here in the summer. And like someone else wrote, the days here are so much shorter. I'm from Europe, and it was really hard to get used to it. Still struggling with it sometimes. I was hoping to move to Panama when I retire, but what you said about the Spanish being talked there, really made me wonder, if I would be able to learn it. 😢
My Uncle was in the Military in Panama & married a Panama woman- & has done quite well over the years - maybe because of being a Veteran. I’m planning to visit him soon - and he does speak very very fast - a combination of Spanish & English
You should definitely come for a visit. Panama is an amazing place.
New subscriber checking in! I was so tickled by your commentary--especially the controlled fires that look OUT OF control 🤣and the slow left-turning drivers. That slow turning would definitely piss me off haha. On another note, I was shocked that mold did not make your list! I've heard and read that mold is truly a thing in Panama and needs constant attention. Honestly, it is the one thing that has me on the fence about making the move from the states. I visited a little over a year ago and was in complete awe of that beautiful, little country. At any rate, love your content and look forward to supporting your channel❣
Hi Stephanie! Thanks for watching, subscribing, commenting and for your kind words. Yes, the slow turns are annoying! I just don't get it. 🤣😀
I have heard of a couple of people having some issues with mold but only in older homes and in cases where they were gone for several weeks at a time.
Even if they had an issue, all they have to do is place a fee of those Damp Rid buckets in the home if they will.be gone for more than q few weeks during rainy season when it's most humid.
Also, they don't really use drywall much here so I would be deterred by that at all.
You should by all means take one more visit but do so with the mindset of “Can I live here?“ or “What would my daily life be like here?“ as opposed to just being on vacation or a tourist mindset. (still see the sights though).
Panama is a beautiful place with nice, beautiful people. Take that eck d exploratory trip and the make the move!
Please send me an email at: chosenfewexpats@gmail.com if Panama remains on your list.
@@ChosenFewExpats You're welcome, my friend. I guess TIP (This is Panama) 🤷🏽♀️ lol
@@Stephanie-007 Yes! TIP!!
@@ChosenFewExpats Excellent advice about my next visit, Alonzo. Panama is definitely still on my list, so I'll reach out to you via email. Be well❣️
Had zero problems with traffic in Boquete and area. Other than in town next to no traffic 😊
Thanks for watching and commenting. Yep. 1/3 of the people in the whole country live in Panama City so most of the traffic issues are there and in the beach areas on holiday weekends. Not many issues aside from that. I should have made that more clear.
Realistic video and as a dog lover I think they are better than speed bumps to slow down crazy drivers. Thank You
Hi Daphne and thanks for watching. That's a very interesting way to look at it. They are effective. I can tell you that.
Customer Service (lack there of) should have been #1 🤣 Great video Alonzo! 👌🏾
Hi Alleyne! 🤣😂🤣 Thanks for your kind words. Yes, tis true... tis true! It all depends on your personal experience as to what is #1. I've lost enough time sitting in traffic for that to top the list although the customer service can be frustrating as well. I think it's slowly getting better though... slowly.
@@ChosenFewExpats I know customer service is something I'm going to have to get use to, but we folks from the USA need to slow down and calm down.
I'm coming to Panama for two weeks in August so I need to begin getting my patience together right now. I personally hate no-shows and people being late. sigh
CASH can be a POSITIVE for most people. I don't have to worry about my credit card getting scammed, as it has to me in some nearby regions.
Yes, it's never a bad idea to have cash.
Only 3 of the 15 raise an eyebrow for me and I can think of solutions to make them bearable.
Hi Malcolm. Thanks for watching and commenting. Which 3 are concerning for you?
@@ChosenFewExpats The bug bites, fires, and huge dump sites.
They are definitely bearable. I wish I had mentioned how bad a list like this would look if we made one for America.
@@ChosenFewExpats That would be a long video.
@@Malcolmmillsknows 🤣😄 Yep! Long and very sad.
If you want convenience, reliability, and fast service, America is the best country on earth. However, living in America is unaffordable for average earners.
How do you think salaries are in Panama for Panamanians?🤔🫣🤣
Agreed on all fronts but fast service is becoming questionable. Service in the U.S. is declining rapidly.
Alonzo, great video! Some of it made me laugh out loud because we experienced those very things when we visited for a week. It was that visit that made us feel like Panama was not the place for us.
Given your video, I want to mention one of the main things that we did not like. It is infrastructure related. We stayed in a beautiful modern condo building, but it had a bad septic smell. We stayed in a lovely Airbnb in the Yoo buiding. It looked fantastic, but had to burn candles ALL the time. I had to close the stoppers in the sinks, keep the bathroom doors closed and keep the balcony doors open in order for the bedroom / living to to be bearable. At first we thought it was a plumbing problem in the Airbnb, then we caught wiffs of the smell other places in the building - especially the lobby bathrooms. Then we thought it was a problem in the Yoo building, until we smelled septic smells when we were out at other places. So tell me please, is this a common infrastrucure problem in Panama City?
Hi brother and thanks for watching. You shouldn't let your experience discourage you. You had a bad experience with the smell in just one building. We never had that issue on four exploratory trips staying in several different places as well as several trips since moving here. To me, most of the issues I mentioned are more so annoyances. No place is going to be perfect. Relative to other countries, Panama is still an outstanding country even with these short comings. Help me put together a similar list for the U.S. real quick. 🤣
So did you decide against moving here?
Never smelled that and we stayed there two weeks ago. We did notice candles in some rooms but never noticed that smell.
@@againstallodds404 , thank you. It must have been our ad luck. We still enjoyed our stay and the people. Have a great day!
@@ChosenFewExpats, Hey Alonzo. Thank you for responding. I guess we got a bad pick. For many reasons - namely the language barrier and the infrastructure, we think that Panama is likely not our spot. We are getting married in Puerto Vallarta on 6/24. Then we honeymoon in Lisbon. So both of those are places that we are considering, especially Lisbon But we liked Panama as a place to visit. Definitely loved the weather there for Christmas and New Years. We will likely visit there again in the future.
Also, I'm the bride of the bride / groom. So you should have said Hey Sister. (smile)
Have a wonderful week! ................Morrow
Everything you said can be applied to every country in central America. Costa rica was the same on every count. But we loved having the dogs everywhere. And they were all friendly. But be prepared, if you eat outside, you’re sharing a meal. Panama City had large areas that aren’t lit at night and with large groups of people hanging on the corners. Being from NA it made me very uncomfortable and I thought our taxi driver was trying to get us killed, but the panamese (?) people never looked at us twice. After our initial fear, we realized the people there were chill and accepting.
Hi John and thanks for watching. Yes, most of these issues are similar for other developing countries. You're right about the lighting. I called Panama "Gotham City" the first night I arrived because so few buildings were lit up past 8 or 9pm. Yes, Panamanians are very chill and welcoming.
Yes, the dogs are friendly but it's just different seeing so many around.
As per usual, you video is full of valuable information and what you listed is fair and honest. Well done!
Thanks so much my friend. It's great to know you are watching. I'm glad to see you back in the studio. Your videos are pure gold!
Visited lovely Panama in 2015. Changes are being made. Good.
Seen Belize two years before that. I am sure they are not keeping up.
Keep moving ahead Panama
Hi Al and thanks for watching. I've never been to Belize but everyone says Panama is well ahead of them in terms of infrastructure.
Good video. Interesting perspective. I would tell folks that they can pay bills through their Panamanian bank accounts very easily. It's a direct transfer to the Naturgy bank account. There's not a bill that we have here that can't be paid that way. Including Naturgy. Also Yappy works in most cases too.
What's up Will? Thanks for watching and commenting. I should have mentioned that automatic payments through your Panamanian bank account are now an option. The many who don't have or don't for some reason want a Panamanian bank account will still have to go old school on this one.
Yappy is a great option in most cases as you mentioned but that forces one to set up an account with Banco General.
This was very interesting and informative continue the good work.
Hi Michael. Thank you my brother and thanks for watching. Let me say this this video is in now way meant to discourage people from moving to Panama. These are mostly minor annoyances. Panama is still a fantastic place to live.
Are you considering relocating here? Shoot me an email at... chosenfewexpats@gmail.com
Stay in touch and thanks again for watching.
Thank you so much for sharing with me/us those negative aspects of Panama. I moved to Panama after spending 5 years in Costa Rica and I will say that the negative or irritating things are mostly the same. If a person is planning to move to Panama they must prepare themselves for these irritating country things.
I would like to add a couple more things to your list which you covered but not in detail. There is a very big problem with what I call "The System Infrastructure" where companies including the Panama Government don't seem to get how things work in real time. It took me a month to open a bank account and 4 months and counting to get my car back from Panama customs. Slow is one thing, but this is ridiculous!!! It appears to me that they don't want a speedy process because there's always someone willing to help you "for a price". Thanks - Gary
Hi Gary. Thanks for watching and for your comment. Yes, many processes are quite slow. Thanks for your additional information and insight. For the reasons you stated, we recommend for people to not ship cars here.
Some of these things overall can be frustrating. As great as Panama is, we tried to give a balances view of the reality in this video. Some expats didn't like it so your kind words are much appreciated.
Great video. Thank you.
I just retired in the US. I'm currently lookinng into Panama as a possible future retirement place. I'll be there for 2 months in December. The Pensionado Visa would be perfect for me. At the very least, Panama may work well for me as a snow bird location. Especially since the US winters pretty much correspond to the dry season in Panama. And, eventually, I may just move to Panama permanently. None of your negatives really bother me. I'm also fluent in Spanish. That's a big plus, obviously. I'm very sensitive to those Noseen bugs. But, fortunately, I'm partial to mountain living. I have been watching a lot of videos of the mountain areas of Panama. The Volcan area of Panama is my favorite so far. I plan that area and Boquete for my first visit. Thanks for this great info.
Hi Peter. My apologies for the late reply. Congrats on your retirement!
I agree that these are mostly minor annoyances. These items wouldn't be high enough to even make such a list for the U.S.
These things are nothing compared to 15 negatives of living in the U.S. That list would have things like mass shootings, high rate of violent crime, high rate of gun ownership, high rate of natural disasters, people being torn apart along every line possible be it political, racial, gender, etc.
This video should in no way discourage people from moving to Panama but I fear it has. It's more so for a balances and accurate view of what to expect. Many didn't understand that perspective in the way that you did.
There are a TON of outstanding positives of living here
Been living here (from South Africa) for 4 years and I applaud you for a very realistic video. On point with all 15!!
Just remember that things are very different, living in the rural / semi rural areas to being in a town or city!! And great fruit and veg available, mostly sprayed, sadly (because of the extent of the bugs here) and very little choice for vegans. And I must add that the treatment of ALL animals here is Appalling. No regards for the sanctity of Life. Was and is my biggest bug bear!! And veterinarian care is generally very shoddy.
My tuppence worth!! Enjoy your stay anyway, great being here! ❤
Hi Joy. Thanks for watching and for your kind words. We try to provide a little perspective from the rural and often provide it concerning semi-rural areas (such as beach and mountain areas). However, many people viewing will be planning to live in the city or at least most will experience on their exploratory trips to Panama. Also we've seen many people leave the semi-rural areas and move to the city.
That said, we'll try to provide more insight on rural areas. Can I contact you for more information if needed? Thanks again for informing us of the animal treatment issues.
I agree. The treatment of animals in Panama is appalling.
@@pdm2201 so so sad. Take care. Of yourself and the animals.
@@joysachs9032Thanks. I have 6 rescue dogs and a Bison Frisse (sp?). They all have different personalities of course.
Hello from a German neighbor, here in Nueva Gorgona (police control point). You can pay naturgy bills via your bank app if you have a Panamanian account. Only saying. Restaurants and service: I moved from Germany to Canada in 2005. The thing that pissed me off? The waiters showing up every 5 minutes: “Everything okay?” “Do you need anything?” “Food is good?” Seriously! In Europe you get served and the waiter is approaching you after you lift your hand. He/she gives you space to enjoy your meal, friends and family. Moving to Panama (well, I got stranded in the pandemic actually) I completely enjoy that waiters don’t show up and disturb you. What I absolutely hate is cold food. So when they serve the food, I hold my hand over it, cold? I ask to heat it up. No problems. And very slow Panamanians work in offices. My building permit for my small house in the San Josè area, 8 minutes from Coronado took 16 months. I did my part fast but the company who sold the lots had some issues with the office people. So never insult a Panamanian who you need something from. You will regret it. I had my doubt on the stories from the company after 13 months waiting. I drove to the office again and had a chat with my phone to office workers kind off, because I understand 70-80% Spanish but I speak not good enough. I did not start visiting a school because everything was closed or didn’t even reopened after the lockdowns. So the workers explained that the company owners were very rude to them and demented to jump lines or approval without necessary documents. That’s when the inspector got pissed off. I figured that I’m in the middle of a battle and decided to just relax and agreed to every bad word they had to say about the company owners. After 2 weeks I got a call that they finally forwarded my papers. 2 weeks after that, I got a call to pay the permit. I thought cool. Now I get the permit. “No Senior! We never know if the person actually pays for the permit….. You can pick up the permit in 4-6 weeks. We need a copy of your receipt….” Well. Panama….Driving habits… Panamanian road test? You go to a fenced area like a pre-school kids traffic learning place in Europe for 5-8 year old kids. Test? Parking in 3 ways. Parallel, forward & in reverse. 1!! Stop sign. You pass you are good to drive in Panama. Good to hear that you hate how they turn or - slow down , slow down, slow down in the driving lane to get into a parking lot, shopping mal or gas station. Ridiculous! Or driving very slow to drive into the traffic lane instead of speeding up. Some even stop, don’t turn heads and really wait until absolutely no car is passing them. In the beginning, I was close to drive into this ….. well I don’t say it. 😅
Hi neighbor! Thanks for watching and for your expert commentary. Yes, I should have mentioned the Naturgy bill can be paid with a bank account.
I agree with you in the waiters. I just wish they could find a happy medium. I would like for them to ask how you are doing just a little more often in Panama.
Sorry you had the approval issues. Great advice concerning that.
All in all, Panama is still a real place to live even with these minor annoyances
Thank you for your video. I think before moving to any place it is good to go visit and stay for a while then you can make a decision. Do a lot of research and talk to other expats.
Hi Sabrina！Thank you for watching and commenting. I agree!! People need to take at least one exploratory trip to see and decide for themselves. We are here to share information but encourage people to do their own research.
I'm afraid this video has turned some away from Panama when that wasn't the intent at all. These are mostly minor annoyances compared to the massive issues in the U.S.
So do you already live in Panama or are you considering a move?
@@ChosenFewExpats To tell you the truth my perception at first was exactly what you indicated. I am Panamanian living in the US for 40+ years and will return to Panama soon. Thus, I want to listen to other expats experiences. I realize that after so long living in the US it will take some time to get used to the new environment. We have to consider that each individual is a very unique entity no one is alike. We all have different desires and tolerances. I do appreciate your video/comments. By the way my name has no "r". Thank you. Warm wishes.
The playing of music is a Caribbean culture music is everything for us
For me, the music is no problem for the most part. It's tough when they start at 7am and go all day and half the night.
@arteface Please don't generalize about "Caribbean culture." It depends what social class you live around. If you are a cheap ex-pat and live amongst lower middle-class to poor ppl, you will ALWAYS have noise and ppl blasting their salsa/boleros/etc.
Try playing loud music in Punta Pacifica, those rich ppl (rabiblancos) will shut you DOWN in a heartbeat with an army of cops.
Concerning traffic - surprise protests blocking roads. Can delay you easily an hour or more. Must take that into consideration when you have an appointment or traveling to catch a flight. I make it a point when flying out to stay in the City the night before. Still love Pañama. Been here 16 years ❤.
Thanks for watching. Yes, great point! Thanks for adding this great advice. We only have 3 1/2 years in the books and so far, it's been great!
You hit it on the nail! The Garbage Collection System is absolutely broken in chaos, Not only are there dogs and cats in the road there were some roosters in the road down in Curundu trying to get on the interstate. The one thing you missed is the electric poles and the millions of cables on them going everywhere always catches my eye...now another thing is McDonald's has the McPollo Crispy Fried batches of chicken ooooh lawd and the cream cheese pies so good it's dangerous OMG! Oh and I got bitten by a tiny Chinche too! And everywhere I go the females are just dang fine just so many OMG...
You hit on a lot of good and bad right there. 😂 Chickens and roosters are everywhere in our neighborhood too but I see that as a positive. You're absolutely right on the electric poles and wires. Not just everywhere but exposed electrical outlets wires and no electrical covers is an eye opener too. The old school McD's apple pies with the fried, cripsy coatings are... 🔥🔥
That's some funny observations right there!
@@jehuhutton937 Really for real I laugh too because I enjoy and love Panama so much.. I didn't mention the Diablo Rojo busses! There's maybe a few left today but years ago when I first got there these yellow busses were the transportation system decked out with chrome exhaust pipes, chrome rims, tinted windows, graffiti art, strobe lights and loud stereos! It cost only a quarter to ride.... It looked like something out of a Cheech and Chong movie.
@@CastleDragon78 I still see them around. I haven't been on one yet though!
@@ChosenFewExpats 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thanks so much, very informative and well done!
Hi Gary and thanks so much. I hope this hasn't turned you off of Panama. These are mostly minor annoyances. Panama is still a great place to live.
Please send me an email if you're still considering it. chosenfewexpats@gmail.com
You made me laugh! Very interesting, sounds like Africa basically!!😂❤
Hi and thanks for watching. Yes, many developing nations have some of these issues. The difference is that Panama has a massive list of positives over most developing countries.
Are you interested in moving to Panama? Where do you live now?
This is a guy that's fun to get a beer with!
Excellent video. I wish most people would produce videos as good as this for prospective expats everywhere. Where do condos and apartments store the water? Despite all the advantages I don't think my wife and I have the nerves to put up with these problems in these countries. On the other hand we are losing patience we with all the crap going on in the US and Canada as well. I'd love to go to another planet!!
Thanks so much. We strive to produce high quality content. It does take a lot of time and effort to produce and edit these videos though.
I assume they have large water tanks as ours does. It's an interesting dilemma. I was initially thinking about a house and some land but there is additional work and cost that comes with that. The outages are a big issue for those who are not prepared.
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The same people that run the US andCanada would be in charge of the other planet and the results would be the same. SMH
Glad to see a channel that tells the truth. I have lived here for 13 yrs, and know exactly what it's all about. Also you forgot to mention that there are Gringo Prices. This is very sad. I think if I owned a business here, I would have Panamanian prices LOL
Hi Michael and thanks for watching. I appreciate your kind words my brother. Yes, Gringo pricing can be an issue at times too. Great point! Where do you live?
@@ChosenFewExpats I reside in the the interior about half way between David and Costa Rica in a rural area surrounded by dairy farms.
These are the kind of behind the scenes Expat videos I wish more people would do because everywhere has something about it which makes it bad. The small town I grew up in here in New York currently has a population which is mostly retirees. The people who aren't retired have jobs that involve a lot of traveling for work. When I was a kid, there was no traffic in town because everyone worked at one of three factories or the local military base and everyone was always at work all day. Now because of the changes in demographics and the type of work people do, the traffic isn't bad, but the volume means a traffic light would be helpful on a lot of side streets that did not need them in the past, but they will never put up any such lights. It's a small annoyance, but little things like that effect quality of life.
Hi Jeremy. Thanks for watching and for the kind words my brother. This video rubbed a lot of people, mostly expats, the wrong way but almost all Panamanians agreed with it.
You took it in the intended perspective and the example you gave of your hometown is perfect. Everything is relative and no place is a utopia.
So, are you interested in making a move to Panama? If you have any questions, feel free to shoot me an email at... chosenfewexpats@gmail.com
@@ChosenFewExpats if I can ever get a business that allows for location independent income to work out for me it's on the list of places I consider making a move to, but it's a wide list. I'm probably more likely to be a perpetual tourist at least for a while if what I have worked on works out.
@@jeremyleonbarlow Being a perpetual tourist isn't a bad option. As long as you get out of the U.S.
Forget Panama 🇵🇦 Hello 👋 México 🇲🇽 ❤
Thanks for watching. Brother in no way should you let this video turn you off of Panama. These are mostly minor annoyances.
Mexico has some posivites but has far more serious negatives than Panama including being WAY more dangerous in general.
Motorcycles riding between cars is normal in California so no biggie for me
Hi Will and thanks for watching. Do they do that on tightly packed city streets during rush hour as well? I only had a video clip of it happening during slowed or stopped traffic on the highway. The lane in many areas of the city here are more narrow so it can still be an anxious moment for some people. I'm glad you're ready though!
So are you planning a move to Panama? If so, please keep us posted on your progress. chosenfewexpats@gmail.com
Thanks for sharing this video.
My pleasure. Thanks so much for watching. I'm glad you seem to have taken this video in stride and as intended. These are mostly minor annoyances.
So, are you considering a move to Panama? Where do you live now?
So are you considering a move to Panama? Where do you live now?
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Thank you for sharing your experiences living in Panama. I'm currently living in the US, and I'm considering relocating to either Panama or Costa Rica within the next year or two. I noticed you didn't mention anything regarding crime, so is it relatively safe where you are?
Hi Cyndi. Thanks for watching and commenting. Yes, Panama is absolutely safe. Far safer than any average U.S. city. Costa Rica is as well. Very few people own guns so the violent crime rate is very low. Mass shootings, drive bys and things of that nature are unheard of here. Burglaries and petty theft are the most prevalent types of crime, especially in cases where homes are abandoned by expats who leave for months at a time.
Costa Rica is beautiful and great as well but the biggest problem with CR is that it's very expensive as compared to Panama. Their sales tax is 13% with an additional mandatory service tax for many businesses like restaurants, hotels, etc. Panama's tax is a flat 7%. For this reason alone, many people move from Costa Rica to Panama.
Also, Costa Rica has a tourism dependent economy whereas Panama doesn't. The economy is Panama is service driven with the foundation being $4.2 billion of annual Panama canal revenue along with having the 2nd largest free trade zone in the world. Also the use of the U.S. dollar keeps Panama's economy a stable one.
About the music is depend where your live if you live in the woods you will hear weekend’s loud music from Fridays to Sundays.
Hi and thanks for watching! So true. It's almost unavoidable. I don't mind it most of the time.
Wow it sure can piss rain 🌧️ fast there
😀🤣😀 Yeah, it can come down. I've heard some of the Most ferocious thunder but seen some of the most beautiful lightning storms here.
We experienced every thing you have mentioned, you have nailed it in this video
Tha is for your kind words. This video rubbed a lot of expats the wrong way for some reason but we need to tell people the truth! Even all of the Panamanians I know agreed with everything in this video.
So they burn off their household garbage? Isn't there regular trash collection and recycling? I've heard about it in other countries too.
It costs about $3-4 per month but they just burn it. There are recycling bins in some public places but there is not that kind of sorting at a residence. The same was the case for me in the U.S. I had one trash bin for everything.
@@ChosenFewExpats Oh boy, so people just take out their garbage every few days and set it on fire, with everything together in the field? Thousands of people doing it everywhere in the country?
@@dovygoodguy1296 No brother. Not most people of every household. It's just that if someone dumps something somewhere, others see it and they may dump something there too. Then someone else either gathers it up or more often times will burn it. The burning is much, much more of a thing for the fields and high brush than it is for the trash. You do see it on occasion for the trash.
The just ended 41 days of blockades is my #1 con.
Thanks for watching. I guess it depends on one's perspective. Many would say the protests are a huge inconvenience. Many would also say they understand the people's right to protest to effect change in their own country.
I would say the cost of living, considering that it is a 3rd world country. The price of homes, especially in PTY, is ridiculous. The COL in many medium size cities in the USA is lower than what it is in Panama, and again, Panama is still 3rd world.
Hi and thanks for watching. Panama is in now way a 3rd world country. It is designated as a rich country according to the World Bank. Panama is a developing country.
Understood on your point concerning the high housing cost in some areas of the city. There are still plenty of low cost options.
@@ChosenFewExpats I would agree, there are options that are lowER cost than the high cost ones, but to say they are low cost, I disagree, but also acknowledge that 'low cost' is an inexact description, and it depends on what you are comparing them to. I compared them to the same basic thing in places like Ecuador, Bolivia, Argentina, Brazil, and in that context, they are not what I would call low cost. Comparing apples to apples, Brazil and Colombia are much lower cost than Panama. But the only thing that matters is, do you like it there and are you satisfied with the life you have, there, as compared to the cost of it. For me, other places were and are much better.
Houses in good areas are very expensive and they are very small
Hi, I am from Brazil and just came back from a trip to Panama and I asked the drivers about energy and water but they told me they have no problem with this, now I see that it’s not very true. Thank you for the information!
Hi Livia. I would say that it's not much of a problem at all. From their perspective for sure. These are mostly minor annoyances.
I'm stating these things about power and water from the perspective of someone from a first world, highly developed country where there are almost never any power or water outages.
I wouldn't say they were lying when you look at it from their point view.
Hello sir, I've been thinking about moving to Panama. Do you have a video on the good things about living there? Also. Is there a way I can contact you directly to maybe ask some advice and things?
Hi Ali. Thanks for watching and commenting. Our very first 2 videos were coming reasons of why to move to Panama... "Why Panama (Part 1) and (Part 2)". They contain many positives of moving here. Also some will be stated in our "WHY Panama's Location is Perfect" video that we are releasing this week.
Yes, we offer personal consultations. You can reach me at: chosenfewexpats@gmail.com
@@ChosenFewExpats 10-4, thank you