I had no idea you had made a series about Vietnam. Like you I am married to a beautiful Vietnamese woman. I have live in Da Nang for the last eleven years and have no intention of leaving in this lifetime. Trying to find books in english that talk about anything but the war is frustrating. The Viets are not nearly as obsessed with the war as Americans are, they spent nearly a thousand years trying to protect their independence, China, France, and finally the USA. They are a happy, industrious. and beautiful people. I am honored that they allow me to live here and enjoy real freedom.
Yeah you cant search anything about Vietnam’s history unless you know the EXACT name of the situation. If you type “Vietnam past history” all you’ll get is the war lol
Thanks! Yeah there are apparently stories of ships sinking in bays that are now so far inland they're freshwater lakes. Not a good place to buy a timeshare.
Thanks, there's a lot more to come! Prehistory will probs become my niche as it were. My degree was in the archaeology of the stone age and human evolution so it's probably the topic I can most comfortably talk about. Plus it's not covered as much as other eras.
@@StefanMilo Awesome niche to fill, and seriously needed due to the sheer amount of pseudo-scientific and historical nonsense on the internet. Godspeed to you sir!
intersting. I am Vietnamese and you show me the part about my own history. But more about fact and scientific way than myth and legend I had learned in school.
I live in Europe and Vietnam is approached mostly in 3 ways by anyone except for leftists: Nothing - people just avoid talking about it, or they only talk about the Vietnam war about "evil" Vietnamese and "good" French, or if they talk about anything more than the vietnam war it's called some sort of sparsely populated and poor backwater until the French came. And people still call it a bad place to live in even though the average person has it better than a lot of places in the "west". People in the political centre over here talk about vietnam like right-wingers mostly. Everyone even the left agrees that they don't like Vietnam to have only 1 party. Almost no one talks about things like religious persecution or murders in South Vietnam before 1975 and when you do bring it up and show sources people often just look at you with big eyes and will forget about it until you meet them again. Pretend as if the South was flawless and the North was mordor.
This is by far one of the very best videos in this field. The speaking speed is great, illustrations fine, sometimes funny too. No disturbing background wallpaper music. Excellent intelligibility and few technical terms. As far as the content is concerned, it's hard for me to judge because I already know quite a bit. Actually only one point for improvement: those hand movements.. my Vietnamese is incredibly limited but I would say don't use them as 'đôi tay' but as 'hai tay' .. thanks for the video,
I'm part vietnamese and have read up extensively on Vietnamese history . Good Presentation. Of course, as you probably already know, the story gets even more complicated.
Dragon, fairy story about the birth of 100 children has some context to it. It’s said 50 ascended inland (mountains) which are believed to be mung ppl and 50 descended into the sea (coastline) believed to be present day Vietnamese.
The dragon and the fairy was just ancient tale . The meaning of 100 eggs ( the eggs in one bag )is : all the Viet's tribes in the land from Southern part of China, South side of Yangtze River, are brothers and sisters. 50 went with father ,50 went with mother. The meaning of that is: the children went on the different way to opend the land ,along the seashore or in the jungle.
I live near the Co Loa ancient citadel, just woke up pretty early and went out for a walk. The place still looks amazing, very cultural and peaceful. At night sometimes it does feel kinda of scary too my house is near the ancient temple
Just returned from a tour, and our guide started their history with the fall of the old kingdoms to 1000 years of Chinese rule, then 200 years of civil war, from which the Nguyen family emerged victorious, who expanded to the south [now central] through dynastic unions with the existing 'Champ' peoples (who were linguistically and perhaps genetically Austronesian, ie same origins as today's Indonesians). The Nguyen family grew large and remained dominant due to the early kings granting power and privilege to families who changed their name to Nguyen and also the 'Tiger King' who had 500 concubines and sired 150 or so children. According to our guide, the Mekong delta was settled by migrants from the north who wanted a better life (probably getting a bit crowded up north). Nothing was said of the people already inhabiting the delta, but I guess they were Khmer from further up the river. Then the French! Great history, I'd love to see more detail from pre-colonial eras.
FUNAN Kingdom (Chinese term) / Oc Eo (Archeologists site) / Nagkor Phnom (Khmer) / Phu-nam (Vietnamese). They're Mon Khmer ancestors (Khmer Empire predecessor) confirmed by Western Historians and Archeologists.. They (Oc Eo) discovered ancient Khmer tools identical to Dong Song Culture in the North...
Oh so Nguyen is a royal family name? Interesting I thought it was like smith or farmer. Like it described a trade but I guess that would be a very Eurocentric thing for me to think
The Western Indonesians, and the former Sundaland shelf were ancestrally austroasiatic mixed with negritos and hoabinhian to a certain degree. Today, Javanese, Balinese, Sundanese are the closest cousin to the Khmer. Aside from Thai (majority assimilated Mon and Khmer by definition)
@@TrangNguyen-tn9pb 🤣literally linguistically traces back to the Khmer word Phnom. Khmer, not Cambodian. Stop erasure. If they were Khmerized, or a Khmeric group, it's the same as Viet to Muong, stop being invested in what relates to us.
This was the one of the first videos I've seen now have seen many more so I get it now. I'm glad I found your channel, keep it up I really enjoy your content. also I like that you list your sources.
Congrats on going viral with that video! I like your focus on prehistory, it's a time period that is often ignored. I especially like that you're talking about places other than Western countries. As you said, people only think of the Vietnam War when they think of Vietnam, which is a shame because it's a beautiful country with a fascinating history (from the little I know). Also, your hikes seem pretty damn awesome. Lucky!
Thanks man, yeah I'm probably going to make a lot more videos on prehistory. I'm actually an archaeologist rather than a historian by training so there's lots more on the stone age to come. No idea why this one took off. The algorithm giveth, the algorithm taketh.
@@StefanMilo Oh really? That's pretty awesome - you don't meet a lot of archaeologists! You're basically Indiana Jones haha Did you specialize in prehistory? And definitely, better not second guess the algorithm and just praise it for blessing the video.
Could you do a video on the first people in Korea? I’m Korean and I’m so curious about where I come from but I don’t really understand archaeological literature
I read a book years ago and heard that in one source you guys have either Mongolian or Siberian ancestors but whatever case I’m assuming China because think of it, where do you need to cross first before you go to Korea? China
Yeah, I think Koreans have many northern areas that are now china but possibly mixed with a small percentage from south Pacific islanders, Turks, Russians, and Mongolian with some Arab mix. Not all Koreans look the same by the color of their skin and build.
Any chance of the more videos on Vietnam? My girlfriend is Vietnamese so I'm trying to learn more about the history and culture because as you said, all I'd heard about before was the war. Either way, absolutely bloody love your videos, keep dropping the bangers, big fan
I’m Filipino and as neighbors we share racial and cuisine culture (rice and fish sauce). I’m learning about Hohabinian history through inquiry. Other than American influence, our other external influences differ though. The language there closer to unilingual, whereas rest of Malay is poly- lingual. I tasted Soup- in SoCal USA at my friends house, great even though cold 😋 I admire the enterprise of Vietnamese culture. Great vlog, Thank you 🙏
As a Vietnamese, we don’t look like Filipinos nor are we the same ethnic as you guys… So get this straight in your head! There is nothing that we Viet share with you Pinoys! Geez, I’m getting irritated with Filipinos day by day😂
This guy is dumb. Vietnam and Philippines have shared a lot of history together through trade. A lot of Vietnamese and Filipinos do look similar, but usually the pure Filipino without much Spanish mix.
Awesome video thank you for sharing! Looking forward to more content on Vietnam. Can I add that one of the earliest English oral histories may be Beowulf? I only say this because the origins of the Arthurian Legend is debatable. Here I go being that guy on the internet again.
Conservative estimates place it around 7th century however since the Anglo Saxon migration had already made it to Briton by then and it deals with Geatish lore in Scandinavia it may be as early as 5th or 6th. But that is a pretty big claim.
Great Video. I just recently saw a vid showing a Vietnamese company is opening a 5 billion dollar plant in North Carolina to built two versions of an electric SUV. I think the USA and Vietnam are going to increase there trading more in the future!
The orangutan joke made me LOL 😂 instant sub!!! I have many videos to watch now 🙂 thank you for this video! I was just looking up Vietnamese history out of curiosity and appreciation, and this video was an excellent place to start! Thank youuuuuuu ✌🏼✌🏼
Way back in the 1960s I checked out a book at our local library. It was originally in French and translated to English. It was an excellent history of Vietnam. At that time, people my age were worried about getting drafted and fighting there. I joined the military in 1972 when I graduated high school, but I never got to Vietnam. I've got many friends who still either live there or travel there often. Regardless of the war, they loved Vietnam and the people.
As an American living in Guangxi, China I'm interested in the Annan period. I am aware Chinese coins were minted there and part of Annan is now Vietnam and part is China. The local dialect here sounds a lot like Vietnamese to me.
Hi Stefan thanks for the chill and clear headed / well researched and pondering stuff. Really like it. Something that comes up a lot that I find pretty much as mysterious as I find interesting, what's your best guess for how early trade networks formed? Isolated, relatively self sufficient groups manage to come across all kinds of stuff from much farther than it is possible for them to travel. It just seems amazing that it always tends to happen that a group become dependent on some faraway resource.
The double-harvest discussion was fascinating. In the Indian Deccan region, which is known for its egalitarianism, they could not double or triple-harvest (unlike the rest of India). As such, farmers had lots of free time and they used it to serve as soldiers, train as artisans, and otherwise earn supplemental incomes.
This is really important to me as a european because it helps to correct the eurocentric, colonial view on the world's history that is still so prevalent in western culture and sadly also in my thinking. When I started learning about prehistory, I noticed that I myself seemed to have a strange reflex in my thinking that would somehow devalue the achievements of those non first-world civilisations for no apparent reason. At the same time I still admired those stunning accomplishments way before our modern times. This created a cognitive dissonance which I hope to overcome by learning even more about what happened far away from europe much earlier. Humankind has an awesome history all across the globe.
I'm a descendent of one of the many tribes in the Central Highlands: X'tieng ( or S'tieng). From research, I've learned that when the Vietnamese invaded from somewhere near southern China, many indigenous habitants of the land escaped to the Central Highlands. But now with the Communist's overthrow ad rule, my people (the indigenous people of Vietnam) are suffering genocide, enslavement, loss of land, loss of culture. Whatever is seen now is government's propaganda for tourists. It would be interesting (and fair) if someone would tell the whole truth - including of my people's story.
All indigenous group should be treated as cultural Treasures and the knowledge they possess should be preserved and the way of life this is only two apparent in the US for American Indians where are some tribes have had enough land set aside for them to preserve their cultures
Dates you give the impactof Bronze are interesting.Really interesting. The very earliest chinese development is around bronze and ceramics which indicates an interesting separation that geography doesnt suggest. Thanks for the video.
Very interesting video, I thought south east Asia was heavily influences by China very early but now I see they have a very long history on their own. Are you planning on making other videos covering some Asian regions? Happy new year
Genetic data from Vietnam's Phùng Nguyên culture's Mán Bạc burial site demonstrated close proximity to modern Austroasiatic speakers such as the Khmer and Mlabri; meanwhile, "mixed genetics" from Đông Sơn culture's Núi Nấp site showed affinity to "Dai from China, Tai-Kadai speakers from Thailand. Reply
@@cariopuppetmaster Before Vietnamese occupation, Champa Kingdom existed in the region 1000s of years before Vietnamese migrated into Se-Asia. Champa Kingdom was heavily influenced by Sanatana Dharma aka Hindusim (as known to the British colonization). Champa people were mixture of Austroastic (Mon Khmer family branch) and Austronesian (Malaysian). Since 1 century A.D, Sino Tibetan And Tai Kai Dai -Chinese start trading and migrating into Nagkor Phnom (Funan Kingdom) in Se-Asia. Don Song cultural artifacts also match pre Funan artifacts including drums (depicted on Nagkor Vat / Angkor Wat) in modern day South Vietnam (apart of ancient Khmer Kingdom) region called Oc Eo. Funan existed since 500 B.C or even older. They also discovered rare armors in Cambodia dating back 2500 to 2000 years ago in early 2000s.. vi.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%93c_Eo
thanks it took alot of searching actually had to ask chatgpt how to narrow down the search because i could only find vietnam war history videos and was interested in the prehistory before i get to delving more into that then the schools taught me
Arthurian legends are pre-English Celtic legends, developped later by French writers. Indeed, they're all about the Celts fighting against the English.
Not to mention that the oldest tale that is still around as far as we know is none other than Jack and the Beanstalk which is thought to have been passed down through oral tradition since proto indo european times about 6000 years ago!
I too have a new Vietnamese wife and child. I'm fascinated by the countries history and culture. One thing I'll point out though is about the origin myth of the Vietnamese people. I've heard the story too, but its not the reason why there are so many Nguyen's, Tran's, Le's, Pham's, and other identical surnames. It's more to do with the ruling families. Every time the dynasty changed, people would change their names to match that of the ruling family's. The old dynasties family would be killed off. So to minimize the risk that it would be an early death, there would be mass renaming of surnames instead. The last ruling dynasty were the Nguyen's, which ended in 1945. Hence why around 40% of all Vietnamese are Nguyen. I look forward to more content on this subject.
TRINH - NGUYEN civil war began in 1627 and ended in 1775. Trinh ruled in the north and Nguyen ruled in the south. And changing family name occured for those who decided to move south. Other sources said these migrants received assistance and favors if they have same family name as their ruler. Reasons: In 1533 Mac Dang Dung overthrew his king Le. Nguyen Kim was a general of the ousted king still supporting his king's prince but he was killed by his son in law named Trinh Kiem. He also killed his father in law's oldest son. The second son moved south to avoid the massacre. That's why those who had the family name Trinh or any family names related to Trinh Kiem were killed in the south.
It's stupid to think that Chinese king gave Vietnamese name. Chinese king couldn't interfere our internal affairs. Vietnamese have full power in our work. At least, Vietnamese ruled our own country, which is different from Manchuria and Mongols ruled Han people.
Thanks for promoting awareness of Vietnamese history and culture! As a white person with a Vietnamese son, I'm excited by your inclusion of your wife's perspective and information. But did I hear you say you were going to make more videos about Viet Nam? Where are they?
Nice video. It seems the legend of Âu Cơ boring 100 children intersects with the history of the Baiyue, or the Hundred Tribes of Yue (Yue = Việt in Vietnamese).
Don’t forget Montagnard indigenous the ancient one we live in Central highland for centuries just like a native America, aboriginal Australia.You enjoy Vietnamese pho .
Kush Kunte you are wrong information. Vietnamese people also know as kind people they are came from south China not original central highland VN or Laos they have yellow skin the one you see they have dark , brown skin color because they mixed with Khmer race and indigenous VN. Please study Vietnamese history well before you post on social media.
@Kush Kunte peoples in central highland probably shared the same ancestors from indonesia with viet’s ancestors living in south china. As the flow of immigration was from indonesia to indochina then up north to south of china. Much much later on the descendants of Vietnamese people in south China came back to the old land due to northern chinese invasion.
You showing of the picture of the Orangutan made my day. Gracias. I have many Vietnamese friends and I'm very pleasant to see how open-minded and less rigid the Vietnamese community has become. How come you didn't eat Pho in your introduction?
Apparently, the chicken was also first domesticate in the Indochinese Peninsula - possibly by a pre/proto-Vietnamese culture. The modern Vietnamese (Kinh) people are a hybrid mix of local Lac cultures and incoming Chinese Chin Dynasty military colonists from around the 2nd century BC - and they also gradually mixed with various highland tribes, Cham people in central Vietnam and Khmer people in the South. Like the Chinese Han people (or Arabs) - the Vietnamese (Kinh) are not homogenous, but are a 'super ethnicity' that absorbs genetically and linguistically different groups into a unified language, culture and people. The ancestors of the Vietnamese Royal Dynasties: Tran, Nguyen, Le, Ly (and popular family names) originated in coastal Fujian province of China - and these clans settled into coastal north Vietnam during the period Chinese control. They set up more technologically advanced fishing and aqua-industries and became fabulously wealthy and powerful. After the independence of Vietnam from China, they became Nobility and created the various Royal Dynasties of Vietnam. I'm part Vietnamese and have been to Vietnam - fascinating history and an amazing place.
tôi là người quảng nam đà nẵng thuộc miền trung , tôi cũng họ lê , họ lê la của người việt chỉ có ở miền nam Trung Quốc thôi vì miền nam Trung Quốc là lãnh thổ cũ của chúng tôi , người miền nam Trung và người việt cùng nguồn gốc với nhau gen của tôi có chăm và rất gần gũi với miền nam Trung Quốc khác xa với miền bắc trung quốc
i think it is just the yue people coming full circle. since Fujian people are descendants of Min Yue people local to Fujian, those are brothers to all other Baiyue tribes
All royal dynasties in Vietnam were Viet people, belongs to Bach Viet. Vietnamese now was descendants from mainly Âu Việt and Lạc Việt, and some other Bạch Việt tribes. For example, Tran dynasty was Mân Việt people or Minyue, not Han. At that time, China was not united as now. Vietnamese don't accept to be ruled by other foreigners. That's why even 1000 year under dominance by China, we still fought for our independence.
Stefan I love your work and your channel. With all respect, would you mind if I use your data and images for an explanation of similar topics on an Spanish speaking channel? You'll see, I'm from Mexico and I love studying prehistory as a hobby. My girlfriend told me I should do a channel on the topics I love to talk about, and these topics have many common points with your videos. Of course I'd credit you and put a link to your channel, my main goal is to be able to propagate this fascinating information with my mexican friends. I'll understand whatever your answer is. Have a good day! And keep doing awesome content.
Did the proto Vietnamese develop Bronze on their own? Possibly, possibly not. But we will never really know. The question is. What is the tin source? Or was it Arsenic based?
The Irish Book of Invasions is oral history and it goes back like six thousand years. They even knew how many boats they took over from the Ukraine way back when.
Interesting parallels in the cosmology from the Sumerian text. The creators were flyjng creatures and the first men were created unnaturally. Easy to dismiss what can later turn out to be crucial. I feel sure Stephan will wish he hadn't mentioned it now. Lol
@C SD Oh, I don't know .. As for the second part to the narrative ... One can but hope .. Covid will be over by Easter .. when the bunny will bounce it all away (Claypool)
Dong Son was a multi-ethnic society and to this day The Karen people of Myanmar and Thailand use the Dong Son bronze drum has a national emblem (even appearing on their flag), showing a cultural connection to that civilisation. The drums themselves are found in archaeological sites around the region into present-day Thailand showing the extent of Dong Son influence.
Fyi: Artifacts of Dong son drums also found in south china, taiwan and indonesia. The drum of Thailand are different from Dong Son drums, as Thái people are people from Yunnan China (called Dian Yue people). But yes, they’re still sisters to Dong Son people both were called Baiyue tribes by chinese.
@@TrangNguyen-tn9pb Thank you. There is so much to learn about Dong Son, which clearly had a far reaching and diversified influence on this large region. I've recently found out about Funan, which-to my surprise-had a Roman trading port on the southern coast of Vietnam.
@@WaterShowsProd Funan kingdom was located in southern vietnam, Mekong delta. They were influenced by Indian culture, but I am not sure about their genetics. However this kingdom once had been conquered by Khmer empire (Cambodia) before they were finally conquered and assimilated by Vietnamese. That’s why nowadays many Cambodians who have no clue about real history keep claiming their territory over southern vietnam, blaming that Vietnamese robbed their land.
@@TrangNguyen-tn9pb That's interesting. I know "Funan" is believed to be the Chinese name for the kingdom and some think it was called Nakhon Phanom, which obviously is a Khmer word, and is also the name of a province in Thailand near the Cambodian border. I'm not sure when that province was named, if there was any historical link to Funan or if it was a namesake, or if it was coincidental. I think Nakhon Phanom might mean "City In The Mountains".
You skipped the biggest part of the Vietnamese creation story. The (water) dragon and faerie had 100 children. THEN they decided to separate. 50 children went into the mountains, with the fairy mother, and 50 went into the lowlands, with their dragon father - with an understanding that they could light a great fire, and the others would come to their aid. So despite the extreme differences in the terrain/lifestyle, the Vietnamese people are taught that they are one family and that they should support each other.
Farming started in indonesia at first. Ancient indonesians were the first people in the world who domesticated plants. They were the cradle of southeast Asian civilization.
a lot of things that we think are Chinese, by the way, are of Vietnamese origin. new year, lunar calendar, Chinese horoscope, wet rice cultivation, cotton, silk, chopsticks, house with curved roof. paper, gunpowder, cannon, dragon, junks ...are of Vietnamese origin in the past vietnam is 10 times bigger than now their ancient writing dates back to over 12,000 years ago. it is the oldest civilization in existence. over 2,500 years ago, they went to polynesia, australia, guinea, hawaii, and all of the southern china sea. “han” china has only known the sea for less than 2250 years. to know a little more about the origin of their writing and their civilization: diakhoi.blogspot.com/2012/05/discovery-of-lac-viet-writing-in.html in English taobabe.rocks/ancient-lac-viet-writing-in-guangxi/ www.chungta.com/nd/tu-lieu-tra-cuu/thuy-to-nguoi-viet-thuc-su-o-dau.html hoangvanlac31.blogspot.com/2018/09/chu-viet-co-khoa-au-tu_15.html?m=1 The great architect of the Forbidden City is a Vietnamese Nguyen An. He is one of the hundreds of talented captured by the Chinese . Each time the Chinese invade Vietnam, they leave with hundreds of talented and thousands of children to indoctrinate them into soldiers.
Messed up the audio slightly on this one guys, I was using a new microphone. Xin loi!
Paleolithic
Sơn Vi culture (20,000-12,000 BC)
Mesolithic
Hoabinhian (12,000-10,000 BC)
Neolithic
Bắc Sơn culture (10,000-8,000 BC)
Quỳnh Văn culture (8,000-6,000 BC)
Đa Bút culture (4,000-3,000 BC)
Bronze Age
Phùng Nguyên culture (2,000-1,500 BC)
Đồng Đậu culture (1,500-1,000 BC)
Gò Mun culture (1,000-800 BC)
Dong Son culture (1,000 BC-100 AD)
Iron Age
Sa Huỳnh culture (1,000BC-200 AD)
Óc Eo culture (1-630 AD)
I've been meaning to do that, thank you!
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Glad to be of help. Nice video, great background.
Stefan Milo Where was the video filmed?
Mt. Hood just outside Portland Oregon.
I had no idea you had made a series about Vietnam. Like you I am married to a beautiful Vietnamese woman. I have live in Da Nang for the last eleven years and have no intention of leaving in this lifetime. Trying to find books in english that talk about anything but the war is frustrating. The Viets are not nearly as obsessed with the war as Americans are, they spent nearly a thousand years trying to protect their independence, China, France, and finally the USA. They are a happy, industrious. and beautiful people. I am honored that they allow me to live here and enjoy real freedom.
Yeah you cant search anything about Vietnam’s history unless you know the EXACT name of the situation. If you type “Vietnam past history” all you’ll get is the war lol
EXACTLY.... I was surprised too .. very pragmatic and forward looking people...
freedom fighters like I have seen nowhere else.
awesome video man! Interesting about the shore increasing 100m every year that is pretty amazing
Thanks! Yeah there are apparently stories of ships sinking in bays that are now so far inland they're freshwater lakes. Not a good place to buy a timeshare.
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haha...very true
Thanks for sharing this video.
that's because since the Tran dynasty, the Red river embankment was built, which stopped flooding and caused all sediments to settle out at sea.
Hello, I am Vietnamese. I love my country's history very much, there are heroic struggles of my people. Thank you for making such a great video
Love your vids on prehistory. So fascinating.
Thanks, there's a lot more to come! Prehistory will probs become my niche as it were. My degree was in the archaeology of the stone age and human evolution so it's probably the topic I can most comfortably talk about. Plus it's not covered as much as other eras.
@@StefanMilo Awesome niche to fill, and seriously needed due to the sheer amount of pseudo-scientific and historical nonsense on the internet. Godspeed to you sir!
@@StefanMilo Weren't the dong son culture ethnically tai speaking people or austronesian speaking people?
intersting. I am Vietnamese and you show me the part about my own history. But more about fact and scientific way than myth and legend I had learned in school.
Cam on! Glad you liked it.
Yes .What you have learned is for elementary schools before 1975 .
Tri Nguyen before 1975 under American-puppet South Vietnam was much more lies than today, idiot.
I live in Europe and Vietnam is approached mostly in 3 ways by anyone except for leftists: Nothing - people just avoid talking about it, or they only talk about the Vietnam war about "evil" Vietnamese and "good" French, or if they talk about anything more than the vietnam war it's called some sort of sparsely populated and poor backwater until the French came. And people still call it a bad place to live in even though the average person has it better than a lot of places in the "west". People in the political centre over here talk about vietnam like right-wingers mostly. Everyone even the left agrees that they don't like Vietnam to have only 1 party. Almost no one talks about things like religious persecution or murders in South Vietnam before 1975 and when you do bring it up and show sources people often just look at you with big eyes and will forget about it until you meet them again. Pretend as if the South was flawless and the North was mordor.
@@huuduyvu9714 Are you joking mate? The Vietnamese education system is full of communist propaganda and myth about our great history.
I loved this!
I havent seen any videos on Vietnamese archeology before.
Now i want MORE. 🙂👍
This is by far one of the very best videos in this field. The speaking speed is great, illustrations fine, sometimes funny too. No disturbing background wallpaper music. Excellent intelligibility and few technical terms.
As far as the content is concerned, it's hard for me to judge because I already know quite a bit.
Actually only one point for improvement: those hand movements..
my Vietnamese is incredibly limited but I would say don't use them as 'đôi tay' but as 'hai tay' ..
thanks for the video,
Nguyen! The “smith” of Vietnamese last names
The kim of the koreans!
De Jong of the dutch
nguyen equivalent to royal.
Da Silva of Brazilians
@@fubytv731 kim is also a Viet name too
Beowulf. I remember this being one of the first videos you made, a while back. Is still impressive. Thank you
I'm part vietnamese and have read up extensively on Vietnamese history .
Good Presentation. Of course, as you probably already know, the story gets even more complicated.
Hello Carl the people called Champas were black people
Stop bullshiting
Dragon, fairy story about the birth of 100 children has some context to it. It’s said 50 ascended inland (mountains) which are believed to be mung ppl and 50 descended into the sea (coastline) believed to be present day Vietnamese.
Interesting, thanks for the detail!
The dragon and the fairy was just ancient tale .
The meaning of 100 eggs ( the eggs in one bag )is : all the Viet's tribes in the land from Southern part of China, South side of Yangtze River, are brothers and sisters.
50 went with father ,50 went with mother. The meaning of that is: the children went on the different way to opend the land ,along the seashore or in the jungle.
I know, I said it was a myth. I didn't go into any history after that point because this was about prehistory and archaeology.
@@petert261 yea naga from sanskrit
@ㄉㄎㄉ • ꨆꨟꨮꩆ ꨣꨰꨕ Tiên is like holy
I live near the Co Loa ancient citadel, just woke up pretty early and went out for a walk. The place still looks amazing, very cultural and peaceful. At night sometimes it does feel kinda of scary too my house is near the ancient temple
Really enjoyed this mate. Defo gonna be checkin out your other videos.
Thanks, I haven't made many but I like to think I'm improving.
Just returned from a tour, and our guide started their history with the fall of the old kingdoms to 1000 years of Chinese rule, then 200 years of civil war, from which the Nguyen family emerged victorious, who expanded to the south [now central] through dynastic unions with the existing 'Champ' peoples (who were linguistically and perhaps genetically Austronesian, ie same origins as today's Indonesians). The Nguyen family grew large and remained dominant due to the early kings granting power and privilege to families who changed their name to Nguyen and also the 'Tiger King' who had 500 concubines and sired 150 or so children. According to our guide, the Mekong delta was settled by migrants from the north who wanted a better life (probably getting a bit crowded up north). Nothing was said of the people already inhabiting the delta, but I guess they were Khmer from further up the river. Then the French! Great history, I'd love to see more detail from pre-colonial eras.
The mekong delta had been inhabited by people of Phu Nam kingdom, not Cambodian Khmer, but they were also like the Khmer with Indian influence.
FUNAN Kingdom (Chinese term) / Oc Eo (Archeologists site) / Nagkor Phnom (Khmer) / Phu-nam (Vietnamese). They're Mon Khmer ancestors (Khmer Empire predecessor) confirmed by Western Historians and Archeologists.. They (Oc Eo) discovered ancient Khmer tools identical to Dong Song Culture in the North...
Oh so Nguyen is a royal family name? Interesting I thought it was like smith or farmer. Like it described a trade but I guess that would be a very Eurocentric thing for me to think
The Western Indonesians, and the former Sundaland shelf were ancestrally austroasiatic mixed with negritos and hoabinhian to a certain degree. Today, Javanese, Balinese, Sundanese are the closest cousin to the Khmer. Aside from Thai (majority assimilated Mon and Khmer by definition)
@@TrangNguyen-tn9pb 🤣literally linguistically traces back to the Khmer word Phnom. Khmer, not Cambodian. Stop erasure. If they were Khmerized, or a Khmeric group, it's the same as Viet to Muong, stop being invested in what relates to us.
This was the one of the first videos I've seen now have seen many more so I get it now.
I'm glad I found your channel, keep it up I really enjoy your content. also I like that you list your sources.
Congrats on going viral with that video! I like your focus on prehistory, it's a time period that is often ignored. I especially like that you're talking about places other than Western countries. As you said, people only think of the Vietnam War when they think of Vietnam, which is a shame because it's a beautiful country with a fascinating history (from the little I know).
Also, your hikes seem pretty damn awesome. Lucky!
Thanks man, yeah I'm probably going to make a lot more videos on prehistory. I'm actually an archaeologist rather than a historian by training so there's lots more on the stone age to come. No idea why this one took off. The algorithm giveth, the algorithm taketh.
@@StefanMilo Oh really? That's pretty awesome - you don't meet a lot of archaeologists! You're basically Indiana Jones haha Did you specialize in prehistory?
And definitely, better not second guess the algorithm and just praise it for blessing the video.
Yeah, most of the time I studied the stone age. Lots of stone age stuff in France to be fair. Probably the best art anywhere in the world.
Could you do a video on the first people in Korea? I’m Korean and I’m so curious about where I come from but I don’t really understand archaeological literature
I read a book years ago and heard that in one source you guys have either Mongolian or Siberian ancestors but whatever case I’m assuming China because think of it, where do you need to cross first before you go to Korea? China
Yeah, I think Koreans have many northern areas that are now china but possibly mixed with a small percentage from south Pacific islanders, Turks, Russians, and Mongolian with some Arab mix. Not all Koreans look the same by the color of their skin and build.
Any chance of the more videos on Vietnam? My girlfriend is Vietnamese so I'm trying to learn more about the history and culture because as you said, all I'd heard about before was the war. Either way, absolutely bloody love your videos, keep dropping the bangers, big fan
So you spend a week or so learning about a topic, and share it with us. Great hobby/career.
thanks for making these vids
very cool you made a video on this! i am 1/4 viet so it is nice to spread awareness :)
Instant upvote and subscription for the orangutan photo!
Thanks for breaking it down bro I’ll be wanting to learn about my history
fascinating
Consider yourself fascinated
I’m Filipino and as neighbors we share racial and cuisine culture (rice and fish sauce). I’m learning about Hohabinian history through inquiry. Other than American influence, our other external influences differ though. The language there closer to unilingual, whereas rest of Malay is poly- lingual.
I tasted Soup- in SoCal USA at my friends house, great even though cold 😋
I admire the enterprise of Vietnamese culture. Great vlog, Thank you 🙏
As a Vietnamese, we don’t look like Filipinos nor are we the same ethnic as you guys… So get this straight in your head! There is nothing that we Viet share with you Pinoys! Geez, I’m getting irritated with Filipinos day by day😂
This guy is dumb. Vietnam and Philippines have shared a lot of history together through trade.
A lot of Vietnamese and Filipinos do look similar, but usually the pure Filipino without much Spanish mix.
i live in vietnam, wow shock to see you make this
chuc mung for your wedding!
Thank you!
@@StefanMilo khong co chi ban oi
gave me quite a pleasant surprise
Awesome video thank you for sharing!
Looking forward to more content on Vietnam.
Can I add that one of the earliest English oral histories may be Beowulf?
I only say this because the origins of the Arthurian Legend is debatable.
Here I go being that guy on the internet again.
Thanks, glad you liked it! How ancient are the origins of Beowulf? I had assumed it was roughly 8th or 9th century but didn't look into it.
Conservative estimates place it around 7th century however since the Anglo Saxon migration had already made it to Briton by then and it deals with Geatish lore in Scandinavia it may be as early as 5th or 6th.
But that is a pretty big claim.
Great Video. I just recently saw a vid showing a Vietnamese company is opening a 5 billion dollar plant in North Carolina to built two versions of an electric SUV. I think the USA and Vietnam are going to increase there trading more in the future!
Once again, a super cool video!!!
I'm interested in archaeology, I'm your fan, as a Vietnamese person, I'm so suprised that you researched Vietnamese history. Thank you very much.
Great! Looking forward to see what's next!
Thanks!
nice video mate look forward to your future content
Thanks Ross Brook, you made my day!
The orangutan joke made me LOL 😂 instant sub!!! I have many videos to watch now 🙂 thank you for this video! I was just looking up Vietnamese history out of curiosity and appreciation, and this video was an excellent place to start! Thank youuuuuuu ✌🏼✌🏼
Vietnamese, People worthy of a lot of respect
Yes, bow down to me. jk just give me a high five
Good video! Would love to hear more about Vietnamese history and prehistory
I'm glad you didn't pause the video when your wife was helping you with pronunciation, it's a lovely moment ;)
Way back in the 1960s I checked out a book at our local library. It was originally in French and translated to English. It was an excellent history of Vietnam. At that time, people my age were worried about getting drafted and fighting there. I joined the military in 1972 when I graduated high school, but I never got to Vietnam. I've got many friends who still either live there or travel there often. Regardless of the war, they loved Vietnam and the people.
As an American living in Guangxi, China I'm interested in the Annan period. I am aware Chinese coins were minted there and part of Annan is now Vietnam and part is China. The local dialect here sounds a lot like Vietnamese to me.
Strolling through your videos...nice bruv, enjoying the stroll!
Hi Stefan thanks for the chill and clear headed / well researched and pondering stuff. Really like it. Something that comes up a lot that I find pretty much as mysterious as I find interesting, what's your best guess for how early trade networks formed? Isolated, relatively self sufficient groups manage to come across all kinds of stuff from much farther than it is possible for them to travel. It just seems amazing that it always tends to happen that a group become dependent on some faraway resource.
The double-harvest discussion was fascinating. In the Indian Deccan region, which is known for its egalitarianism, they could not double or triple-harvest (unlike the rest of India). As such, farmers had lots of free time and they used it to serve as soldiers, train as artisans, and otherwise earn supplemental incomes.
Oh how interesting, I didn't know about these cultures/kingdoms. Dragon and fairy is interesting too.
Awesome stuff! I love your channel
This is really important to me as a european because it helps to correct the eurocentric, colonial view on the world's history that is still so prevalent in western culture and sadly also in my thinking.
When I started learning about prehistory, I noticed that I myself seemed to have a strange reflex in my thinking that would somehow devalue the achievements of those non first-world civilisations for no apparent reason. At the same time I still admired those stunning accomplishments way before our modern times. This created a cognitive dissonance which I hope to overcome by learning even more about what happened far away from europe much earlier.
Humankind has an awesome history all across the globe.
Love the backdrop...love the exploration of less-talked about history (in Western circles)...many thanks
Love your videos!!
Thank you for this
Me gusta mucho este video, muchas gracias amigo. Esperamos mas, y pronto, por favor!!
I'm a descendent of one of the many tribes in the Central Highlands: X'tieng ( or S'tieng). From research, I've learned that when the Vietnamese invaded from somewhere near southern China, many indigenous habitants of the land escaped to the Central Highlands. But now with the Communist's overthrow ad rule, my people (the indigenous people of Vietnam) are suffering genocide, enslavement, loss of land, loss of culture. Whatever is seen now is government's propaganda for tourists. It would be interesting (and fair) if someone would tell the whole truth - including of my people's story.
China is ambitious, perhaps a little too ambitious, to put it mildly!
Honey Badger you absolutely right they need to return our Montagnard indigenous ancestors land and stop their persecution and genocide.
My mother's side of the family descend from the same ancient bloodlines happy see another
All indigenous group should be treated as cultural Treasures and the knowledge they possess should be preserved and the way of life this is only two apparent in the US for American Indians where are some tribes have had enough land set aside for them to preserve their cultures
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Dates you give the impactof Bronze are interesting.Really interesting. The very earliest chinese development is around bronze and ceramics which indicates an interesting separation that geography doesnt suggest. Thanks for the video.
Hey Stefan, you mentioned plans on more Vids about Vietnamese history. Any chance you're still working on them?
Very interesting video, I thought south east Asia was heavily influences by China very early but now I see they have a very long history on their own. Are you planning on making other videos covering some Asian regions?
Happy new year
That's only Vietnam. Other ones are more Indian based
Genetic data from Vietnam's Phùng Nguyên culture's Mán Bạc burial site demonstrated close proximity to modern Austroasiatic speakers such as the Khmer and Mlabri; meanwhile, "mixed genetics" from Đông Sơn culture's Núi Nấp site showed affinity to "Dai from China, Tai-Kadai speakers from Thailand.
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@@cariopuppetmaster Before Vietnamese occupation, Champa Kingdom existed in the region 1000s of years before Vietnamese migrated into Se-Asia. Champa Kingdom was heavily influenced by Sanatana Dharma aka Hindusim (as known to the British colonization). Champa people were mixture of Austroastic (Mon Khmer family branch) and Austronesian (Malaysian).
Since 1 century A.D, Sino Tibetan And Tai Kai Dai -Chinese start trading and migrating into Nagkor Phnom (Funan Kingdom) in Se-Asia. Don Song cultural artifacts also match pre Funan artifacts including drums (depicted on Nagkor Vat / Angkor Wat) in modern day South Vietnam (apart of ancient Khmer Kingdom) region called Oc Eo. Funan existed since 500 B.C or even older. They also discovered rare armors in Cambodia dating back 2500 to 2000 years ago in early 2000s..
vi.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%93c_Eo
thanks it took alot of searching actually had to ask chatgpt how to narrow down the search because i could only find vietnam war history videos and was interested in the prehistory before i get to delving more into that then the schools taught me
I love this man!! Move to Canada and be my best friend.
I like that picture you had for the orangutan. Very fitting indeed.
On point! Very accurate.
Arthurian legends are pre-English Celtic legends, developped later by French writers. Indeed, they're all about the Celts fighting against the English.
Not to mention that the oldest tale that is still around as far as we know is none other than Jack and the Beanstalk which is thought to have been passed down through oral tradition since proto indo european times about 6000 years ago!
I too have a new Vietnamese wife and child. I'm fascinated by the countries history and culture. One thing I'll point out though is about the origin myth of the Vietnamese people. I've heard the story too, but its not the reason why there are so many Nguyen's, Tran's, Le's, Pham's, and other identical surnames. It's more to do with the ruling families. Every time the dynasty changed, people would change their names to match that of the ruling family's. The old dynasties family would be killed off. So to minimize the risk that it would be an early death, there would be mass renaming of surnames instead. The last ruling dynasty were the Nguyen's, which ended in 1945. Hence why around 40% of all Vietnamese are Nguyen. I look forward to more content on this subject.
TRINH - NGUYEN civil war began in 1627 and ended in 1775. Trinh ruled in the north and Nguyen ruled in the south. And changing family name occured for those who decided to move south. Other sources said these migrants received assistance and favors if they have same family name as their ruler.
Reasons: In 1533 Mac Dang Dung overthrew his king Le. Nguyen Kim was a general of the ousted king still supporting his king's prince but he was killed by his son in law named Trinh Kiem. He also killed his father in law's oldest son. The second son moved south to avoid the massacre. That's why those who had the family name Trinh or any family names related to Trinh Kiem were killed in the south.
No it's because a Chinese governor gave everyone his last name as a part of the census. It's why everyone is named Nguyen.
It's stupid to think that Chinese king gave Vietnamese name. Chinese king couldn't interfere our internal affairs. Vietnamese have full power in our work. At least, Vietnamese ruled our own country, which is different from Manchuria and Mongols ruled Han people.
Where is that backdrop? Looks like a rad hike man 🤙
Thanks for promoting awareness of Vietnamese history and culture! As a white person with a Vietnamese son, I'm excited by your inclusion of your wife's perspective and information. But did I hear you say you were going to make more videos about Viet Nam? Where are they?
Great video from the pre-spoon era!
Nice video. It seems the legend of Âu Cơ boring 100 children intersects with the history of the Baiyue, or the Hundred Tribes of Yue (Yue = Việt in Vietnamese).
Milo is great. He also cracks me up
You use such beautiful backdrops, can you tell us where they are?
Obligatory engagement comment. Nothing much to say, but I'm having a blast watching through your archives.
Its 4000 years of Vietnamese history. BCE is all legend
how couldn't I find this before?
damn, I'm a Vietnamese but this guy knows more about ancient Vietnam than I do, lol
Don’t forget Montagnard indigenous the ancient one we live in Central highland for centuries just like a native America, aboriginal Australia.You enjoy Vietnamese pho .
Kush Kunte you are wrong information. Vietnamese people also know as kind people they are came from south China not original central highland VN or Laos they have yellow skin the one you see they have dark , brown skin color because they mixed with Khmer race and indigenous VN. Please study Vietnamese history well before you post on social media.
@Kush Kunte peoples in central highland probably shared the same ancestors from indonesia with viet’s ancestors living in south china. As the flow of immigration was from indonesia to indochina then up north to south of china. Much much later on the descendants of Vietnamese people in south China came back to the old land due to northern chinese invasion.
Did I miss the location credit? What's the peak behind you?
Mt.Hood in Oregon. It's beautiful!
Been following for quite a while now..love it . Lived in PI for...childhood during well 67. Respect!
You showing of the picture of the Orangutan made my day. Gracias. I have many Vietnamese friends and I'm very pleasant to see how open-minded and less rigid the Vietnamese community has become. How come you didn't eat Pho in your introduction?
Totally watching this because my boyfriend has Vietnamese in him too :) I'm so curious about their history.
Apparently, the chicken was also first domesticate in the Indochinese Peninsula - possibly by a pre/proto-Vietnamese culture.
The modern Vietnamese (Kinh) people are a hybrid mix of local Lac cultures and incoming Chinese Chin Dynasty military colonists from around the 2nd century BC - and they also gradually mixed with various highland tribes, Cham people in central Vietnam and Khmer people in the South.
Like the Chinese Han people (or Arabs) - the Vietnamese (Kinh) are not homogenous, but are a 'super ethnicity' that absorbs genetically and linguistically different groups into a unified language, culture and people.
The ancestors of the Vietnamese Royal Dynasties: Tran, Nguyen, Le, Ly (and popular family names) originated in coastal Fujian province of China - and these clans settled into coastal north Vietnam during the period Chinese control.
They set up more technologically advanced fishing and aqua-industries and became fabulously wealthy and powerful. After the independence of Vietnam from China, they became Nobility and created the various Royal Dynasties of Vietnam.
I'm part Vietnamese and have been to Vietnam - fascinating history and an amazing place.
tôi là người quảng nam đà nẵng thuộc miền trung , tôi cũng họ lê , họ lê la của người việt chỉ có ở miền nam Trung Quốc thôi vì miền nam Trung Quốc là lãnh thổ cũ của chúng tôi , người miền nam Trung và người việt cùng nguồn gốc với nhau gen của tôi có chăm và rất gần gũi với miền nam Trung Quốc khác xa với miền bắc trung quốc
i think it is just the yue people coming full circle. since Fujian people are descendants of Min Yue people local to Fujian, those are brothers to all other Baiyue tribes
All royal dynasties in Vietnam were Viet people, belongs to Bach Viet. Vietnamese now was descendants from mainly Âu Việt and Lạc Việt, and some other Bạch Việt tribes. For example, Tran dynasty was Mân Việt people or Minyue, not Han. At that time, China was not united as now. Vietnamese don't accept to be ruled by other foreigners. That's why even 1000 year under dominance by China, we still fought for our independence.
Dragon Fairies...wildest feckin party I’ve ever been too.
Gee, I didn't know that Vietnam looked like the PNW👍👍
mt hood
ftw
Stefan I love your work and your channel. With all respect, would you mind if I use your data and images for an explanation of similar topics on an Spanish speaking channel? You'll see, I'm from Mexico and I love studying prehistory as a hobby. My girlfriend told me I should do a channel on the topics I love to talk about, and these topics have many common points with your videos. Of course I'd credit you and put a link to your channel, my main goal is to be able to propagate this fascinating information with my mexican friends. I'll understand whatever your answer is. Have a good day! And keep doing awesome content.
Something even we Vietnamese dont know it yet... wow... great reaseach...
Where did he film this? Montana?
I’m not a big fan of human sacrifices, but I love me some Stefan Milo videos.
You gotta do more ancient Vietnamese history and anthropology Stefan
Did your editor just mess up his collection of orange homimidae? 😅
As someone with south east asian ancestry I'd love to see more videos related to this!
More!
More on the way!
Did the proto Vietnamese develop Bronze on their own? Possibly, possibly not. But we will never really know. The question is. What is the tin source? Or was it Arsenic based?
Read DONG SON CULTURE for your answer:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dong_Son_culture
That's a beautiful landscape. I never knew Vietnam look like Colorado or Sierra Nevada
pretty sure that's not vietnam
can you help me tell the first ancient person life in sundaland before and after sinking incident to be finally are archipelago, sir?
The Irish Book of Invasions is oral history and it goes back like six thousand years. They even knew how many boats they took over from the Ukraine way back when.
Interesting parallels in the cosmology from the Sumerian text.
The creators were flyjng creatures and the first men were created unnaturally.
Easy to dismiss what can later turn out to be crucial. I feel sure Stephan will wish he hadn't mentioned it now. Lol
The orangutang though 😂🤣
@C SD Oh, I don't know .. As for the second part to the narrative ... One can but hope .. Covid will be over by Easter .. when the bunny will bounce it all away (Claypool)
@C SD there may be no need but it sure was funny. 😆
Dong Son was a multi-ethnic society and to this day The Karen people of Myanmar and Thailand use the Dong Son bronze drum has a national emblem (even appearing on their flag), showing a cultural connection to that civilisation. The drums themselves are found in archaeological sites around the region into present-day Thailand showing the extent of Dong Son influence.
thank for your information
Fyi: Artifacts of Dong son drums also found in south china, taiwan and indonesia.
The drum of Thailand are different from Dong Son drums, as Thái people are people from Yunnan China (called Dian Yue people). But yes, they’re still sisters to Dong Son people both were called Baiyue tribes by chinese.
@@TrangNguyen-tn9pb Thank you. There is so much to learn about Dong Son, which clearly had a far reaching and diversified influence on this large region. I've recently found out about Funan, which-to my surprise-had a Roman trading port on the southern coast of Vietnam.
@@WaterShowsProd Funan kingdom was located in southern vietnam, Mekong delta. They were influenced by Indian culture, but I am not sure about their genetics. However this kingdom once had been conquered by Khmer empire (Cambodia) before they were finally conquered and assimilated by Vietnamese. That’s why nowadays many Cambodians who have no clue about real history keep claiming their territory over southern vietnam, blaming that Vietnamese robbed their land.
@@TrangNguyen-tn9pb That's interesting. I know "Funan" is believed to be the Chinese name for the kingdom and some think it was called Nakhon Phanom, which obviously is a Khmer word, and is also the name of a province in Thailand near the Cambodian border. I'm not sure when that province was named, if there was any historical link to Funan or if it was a namesake, or if it was coincidental. I think Nakhon Phanom might mean "City In The Mountains".
Korean mythology also includes foundational rulers hatched from eggs.
Good stuff. More south east asia and early India would be fantastic.
You skipped the biggest part of the Vietnamese creation story.
The (water) dragon and faerie had 100 children.
THEN they decided to separate.
50 children went into the mountains, with the fairy mother, and 50 went into the lowlands, with their dragon father
- with an understanding that they could light a great fire, and the others would come to their aid.
So despite the extreme differences in the terrain/lifestyle, the Vietnamese people are taught that they are one family and that they should support each other.
Are you saying that "farming" started in Vietnam rather than in the Golden Crescent?
Farming started in indonesia at first. Ancient indonesians were the first people in the world who domesticated plants. They were the cradle of southeast Asian civilization.
do you know the indigenous group called jarai in vietnam? -_-
They live in central highland of Vietnam
Came for the skiddly, subscribed for the doo
Isn’t rice a grass? Would cooked rice leave c4 atoms?
I was interested in the video until you started showing signs of tds.
Your wife looks more like Native American than Vietnamese, for sure in a good way.
Btw, it's "Hoabinhian"
a lot of things that we think are Chinese, by the way, are of Vietnamese origin.
new year, lunar calendar, Chinese horoscope, wet rice cultivation, cotton, silk, chopsticks, house with curved roof. paper, gunpowder, cannon, dragon, junks ...are of Vietnamese origin
in the past vietnam is 10 times bigger than now
their ancient writing dates back to over 12,000 years ago. it is the oldest civilization in existence.
over 2,500 years ago, they went to polynesia, australia, guinea, hawaii, and all of the southern china sea.
“han” china has only known the sea for less than 2250 years.
to know a little more about the origin of their writing and their civilization:
diakhoi.blogspot.com/2012/05/discovery-of-lac-viet-writing-in.html
in English taobabe.rocks/ancient-lac-viet-writing-in-guangxi/
www.chungta.com/nd/tu-lieu-tra-cuu/thuy-to-nguoi-viet-thuc-su-o-dau.html
hoangvanlac31.blogspot.com/2018/09/chu-viet-co-khoa-au-tu_15.html?m=1
The great architect of the Forbidden City is a Vietnamese Nguyen An. He is one of the hundreds of talented captured by the Chinese .
Each time the Chinese invade Vietnam, they leave with hundreds of talented and thousands of children to indoctrinate them into soldiers.