The “horror isn’t for you” comment is so pretentious and annoying. If you like horror movies, you’re a horror fan! You don’t have to like any specific film to call yourself a fan of the genre
some fake hips are just being too self-called "woke" and starting to lok down on ppl by comparing tastes like, you're already not "woke" by doing that lollll
yea i dont get how someone can be so gatekeepy that they think you have to be interested in every movie of a genre. imagine saying "what you dont like every romantic comedy? guess youre not a REAL fan :/"
I watched Cats while intoxicated with my partner and we both can’t believe we actually watched it and didn’t just fever dream it. Was genuinely upsetting but a sick part of me wants to watch it again lol
As a horror lover, and a rape victim, it makes me feel extremely uneasy seeing sexual violence in movies, particularly when it doesn't add anything to the story and is for shock value only. It feels like a such a cheap "thrill", and an incredibly overused one. This video legit made me feel seen and less alone 💞
I am scared to death by that kind of violence even as a rather large man myself. I cannot stand anything coming close to...anyways. I hope you are doing better.
I feel like in a lot of movies, sexual violence against women is not meant to be shock value, but pure entertainment for people who like toying with the idea. So as a women myself, no thank you forever and ever.
I'm a 50 year old male, with CPTSD, ADHD, and HSP, and I have been a horror fan since grade school. And I have my own boundaries and triggers. Some films, I wish I hadn't seen. Age, gender, has nothing to do with it. I dig your video. Consider me a new fan.
I’m 58 years, and a long time horror / disturbing / weird / “it’s so bad, it’s good” fan. (This is how I describe them). TWO movies that mentally destroyed me: House (1977). This movie tore my soul apart, because it defies category, and this mentally broke me. You can say it’s an experiential film, but you’d be wrong. The problem with this movie, is that it is not of this universe. It exists outside of it, where the laws of physics does not exist. Birdemic. This POS supposed “it’s so bad, it’s good” is endlessly frustrating because it is so bad, it’s SO VERY BAD, it hurts the mind. I wanted to rip my eyes out with a warm spoon after bravely watching this garbage. Everything else...I get it. Dirty, disgusting, filthy, profoundly disturbing...no problem, I understand. Ask me to watch House and Birdemic as q double feature, and I’d rather get a rope and a stool. Peace! ✌️
@@MikeG82 That's different from saying it condescendingly. Saying it as a term of endearment is one thing. Using it as a way of talking down to someone, or as a way of making someone's argument seem null and void is something else entirely. He was doing the latter. Hence why she was, rightfully, upset.
If anyone has as much morbid curiosity as I do about these movies but won’t watch them, SpookyRice has done summary movies about basically any disturbing film on this list. That way you can get a good vibe without sitting through them 🤙🏻💖
That or big will with “the brutality of…” series or even kill count. I always watch reviews/ analysis of movies I’m too scared of or read about them on Wikipedia
@@PossessedbyHorror if its ok to recommend a movie to avoid for your next installment... try to skip "Jesus Christ Serial Rapist" sounds like fun.... not always
@@missymurder1602 Whoa, that's a bomb ass movie title! The movie sounds pretty shitty though: A schizophrenic man who believes he is Jesus kidnaps women who refuse to believe his delusion He videotapes himself with these women he has tied up in various states of bondage. He sends videotapes to the media labeled "Gospels of Blood," which are just photographs of naked women in bondage, usually crucified in some way, with the camera panning and zooming over the photos. These photographs account for more than half of the running time. There is no diegetic sound, only a few title cards, although there is a soundtrack of heavy metal music.
I literally refuse to watch anything with real animal cruelty, people eating feces and extended sexual assault scenes. I can't think of a good reason to have any of that. It just screams "Ooh look how edgy we are."
@@jasonramos1233 I sort of disagree not every movie with extreme violence or sexual assault is trying to glorify it or doing it just for the sake of being edgy like The nightingale is a very powerful film for me
@@carlyfontane8310 no yes! i love the nightingale. but i’m talking about a serbian film type of movies. those are horrible. but yes nightingale is an amazing film
There's two things to remember here. At the time there was this push for film makers to push the limits of what art was, they wanted to see what they could get away with. This is why all those stories of directors and film makers being arrested and all these court cases, happened in the 60s and 70s and not in the 90s. I definitely would not equate it to your modern edgy internet person, as there was legitimate art and government issues at the core of of all of this that we had to sort out.... hummm.... then again i guess we could say that about the internet as well given that there are notable and notably large, groups who are pushing for the concept of the first amendment being applied to major social media platforms (and i actually agree with that). But... Meh, whatever. Second, the animal cruelty thing, this was a very different time. Animal rights had really just started to catch hold and most people were not overly concerned with a turtle being killed on film. I was partially raised by a grandfather who had a farm and while i did not like how unnecessary the killing was (that could be argued though) i definitely didnt have a guttural reaction to the killing itself. After the 60s and 70s, when we get into the gore and exploitation of the 2000s.... yah, i guess you could say people are doing it just to be doing it, whatever. Its not my cup of tea but i guess it holds its place in film.
@@jasonramos1233 You know what? Im going to point something out here and as i said in my last post, these exploitation and super realistic gore movies are not something i really care for. Ive seen hundreds of them but i pretty much stopped watching them quite a while ago. I will quote something i hear from Jay on Red Letter Media all the time.... those movies you're saying are so horrible and terrible... you remember them. You probably don't even remember the last 10 movies you watched. If you watched 3 movies last week, im betting you barely, of at all, remember details of those 3 movies. But you'll remember that one time you saw AntiChrist 12 years ago. You'll remember Serbian Film, even though you saw it half drunk, 10 years ago. And you'll definitely remember Cannibal Holocaust even though you saw it one time, in 1993.
I’m a woman who sometimes likes more extreme/shocking horror, including some of these movies, partly out of pure curiosity over the limits of art, and partly because it helps me deal with some of my anxieties and traumas in a controlled setting. BUT there’s absolutely no reason to say somebody HAS to like these movies or they’re not a real horror fan. Everyone has different boundaries and preferences. It’s fine and healthy to avoid things that make you uncomfortable! Like you said, we all like different things. Gate keeping over who’s a “real” fan of anything is the worst.
I just hate possession movies because they're all the same. Some good kid, gets possessed, starts doing weird stuff, talking in a deep voice, cursing, and flailing their arms a bunch as a priest is attempting an excorcism 🥱
I think its much simpler than that. He is a little basement kiddo that thinks watching the most gory horror movies will make him a "real man". hes compensating
I think because of 2 factors Horror can be very divisive or diverse. 1st horror is largely a personal taste thing, people get scared by different things which other may find laughable 2nd possibly because of the wide range of fears its possibly the only genre which has a large amount of sub genres. Horror is a broad church
@Ghostface👻🔪 I think that’s a slight stretch I think that just means you’ve liked a single movie in a wide range a horror fan is someone who likes the horror genre not just a single movie
@Ghostface👻🔪 The only reason I've watched some horror movies is because I like the stories in them, but can't stand the aspects of them that *make* them horrifying. So I'd go so far to say I am not a fan of horror despite watching them.
If you were wondering, ‘The girl next door’ was based off the case of Sylvia Likens. It’s similar to cases like Junko Furuta and Suzanne Capper, in that she was tortured for an extended period of time, and eventually killed.
And to add to this-- "American Crime" is also based off of her and her case. One of them is a lot more fictionalized than the other....I think "Girl Next Door" is the one that is more fictionalized, but not 100% sure.
In the case of Sylvia Likens (The Girl Next Door) the woman was not her aunt she was a stranger whose kids had invited Sylvia and Jenny to visit and Gertrude offered to take care of them while their parents were on the road with a carnival.
This is why I love the movie Funny Games. It flips the mirror to the audience and pushed the question "why are you watching this and what are you hoping to see?". Alot of extreme horror fans don't like this movie because it purposely doesn't show alot of gore and doesn't contain any nudity when the female actress is in a comprising situation. It also gets flack for being long and a bit boring, but the whole point is to say "why would you want to see that? Why do you want to see her in this awful situation? Why do you want to see this family suffer? Why are you watching this?". Personally, I think it's one of the best thriller movies I've seen because it actually creeped me out and left me thinking after I turned it off, instead of relying on shock value and cheap jumpscares.
@Jackie Nova I get how it could come across that way definitely. I think it was more aimed towards people who think you can't have a good horror movie without extremes like sexual assaults or extreme gore (to the point that if it's not there, people will dismiss a film immediately). And at directors who make down right disgusting films and hide behind the label of "shock horror".
@Alex Marrone I suggest you watch it! It's easier to come up with an opinon on it after you watch. Just keep in mind, the director even said most people either love it or hate it depending on their taste in horror movies.
omg same haha I'm very interested in the horror genre but I've probably only seen about 10 horror films, I usually like to watch movies that'll make me feel better, or sad movies when I'm sad idk why
I guess I don’t see that as a workable philosophy for living. Sometimes you find connection through pain. I can’t imagine tossing out all Otis Redding, Sam Cooke, Marvin Gaye, and Frank Sinatra music because it doesn’t spark joy while listening to it.
My partner can't watch movies with sexual assault or rape scenes, and since dating them I've noticed just how often sexual assault is used in movies to get a cheap visceral reaction without actually having to write a good plot
Unfortunately a lot of men have this kind of fetish and that is why they like those scenes. It's really sick and in a bad way. It's been fetishized in film for a long time. When people call it "rape culture" it isn't just being imagined when it's all through the movies and fetishized teaching new generations to fetishize rape which is an act of violence.
I absolutely agree with you! I believe that you do not need to have these scenes in order to demonstrate someone's evil and cruelty, or to help the audience understand the victim's trauma. A good writer would be able to do this effectively without resorting to such a horrifying tactic. Anyone who includes these scenes is just a bad, lazy writer, in my opinion.
In some cases, I would completely agree in that matter. Films that have explicit rape scenes that are just unnecessary and most of the time they are just trying to win over the title for most disturbing film. However, I would completely disagree if we were talking about Irreversible a film that includes a revolting rape scene that lasts pretty long but, in that film, it's a bit different understanding how it approaches these aspects of rape and the unrepairable events that occur afterwards. It's a film that's notorious for that one scene but it's used in such an implanting tone that no other film at that time was willing to extend (especially on topics that are so traumatic). Irreversible's talented director and flipped chronological order on how these events come to be is why I believe that despite it being probably one of the hardest films to watch it stands as probably one of the most important as well.
@@OKHolly Again it really just depends on the certain film being talked about in this scenario. Films like Serbian Film is pointless and cheap. However, if you exclude any of these horrifying tactics, especially on films that must depict it in such a fashion in order to get your attention, then you are just a film that's empty and devoid of any real memorability or earnestly. It's not necessarily that they are a bad writer but depending on what film you're talking about it could be the case.
The only movie I've ever seen where the sexual assault was very graphic and gratuitous but also was very crucial to the whole message and point of the movie was Irreversible. As a gay SA victim, I appreciated the film for putting you in the shoes of the victim and their loved ones, instead of just throwing it in for a graphic reaction. Its a very powerful and super disturbing film, but it has a very strong and important message. Edit: I really enjoyed Antichrist, even though the genital mutilation scenes were very hard to stomach. It's a film with a vague and complex lore around it, and Lars Von Trier always seems to make his films feel like completely different worlds even though they are set in our timeline, on Earth. I feel kinda weird now knowing I have seen every single film on this list minus the last one, the last one was made with zero substance or message it is solely for getting a shocked and repulsive reaction out of it viewers. I actually enjoyed a few of them lol. I can enjoy a disturbing movie as long as I don't find it pointless, or I don't feel as though they are just making a film for shock value. Films like Antichrist, Irreversible, and Salo have scenes where the directors intended to get a visceral and shocked and disgusted response from the viewers but they also have deeper meanings in the film and the graphic scenes progress and push the plot and the ideas the director and film are trying to get across. With Irreversible, I cried watching the scene where Alex is assaulted because it places the audience in her position of powerlessness and shock and pain. Irreversible proves to be both a scathing condemnation of how films have pornographically depicted violence against women and gay men and in turn, how our culture sexualizes women and victim-blames them when they are subjected to cruel acts at the hands of men. Or that's how I interpreted the film personally, and why I do place it very high on my favorite films I've watched. I can't even begin to make an entire commentary on Antichrist or this already massive comment will be even longer, there's so themes and ideas happening in it. It's almost too busy, but somehow it pulls it together into an unforgettable cinema experience, though I could have gone without the scissor scene. (Even though it also has a meaning to tie in with the plot and commentary Von Trier is presenting) One of the main questions Von Trier presents within the film is, "Is there anything more frightening than the idea that mothers may wish to commit infanticide?" That's just one of the many things happening inside that film. Its super deep and analytic almost, that I can completely understand why it is a massively polarizing film and why some people will never like it. Salo is basically a political statement about the power struggle that was happening in Italy during the 1940s. The film explores themes of political corruption, consumerism, authoritarianism, nihilism, morality, capitalism, totalitarianism, sadism, sexuality, and fascism. Once again, another film that can be broken down and studied and interpreted in various ways. TLDR: Basically what I'm saying is that even though these films contain various scenes of SA and graphic violence and subject matter, they aren't meaningless, to me anyways. I found strong messages and themes in all of them, being a SA victim and a gay man, they struck various nerves in me that made me appreciate them, hard to watch as they may be. I'm not advocating them in any way, since I know many people will still be triggered or upset by them and completely respect their opinions and distaste of them, I just wanted to explain their meanings to people who may read this that have no desire whatsoever to watch them. :)
I'm almost fifty and have been watching horror movies my whole life, and I totally get what you mean. My own personal "line" is incessant cruelty under the pretext of horror. To me, a horror movie should be, you know... SCARY. If it's just watching abuse for 90 minutes then I'm tapping out. If that makes me soft in people's eyes then so be it.
@@FroggyBoy3271 I watch saw movies and enjoy it because it gets dumber for me the abuse I wont subject myself to is films like human centipede , a serbian film etc
Also, The Girl Next Door is *really* not worth it for other reasons than its disturbing content. You see, Jack Ketchum heard the story of Sylvia Likens (the girl who was tortured to death by her caregiver, her kids, and their friends) and thought it would a good story for a novel. He approached Sylvia’s sister, Jenny, to ask her permission to write and publish the novel as long as he changed the names. Jenny said no because she did not want to relive the trauma of watching her sister being tortured and she didn’t want her sister to be remembered in that way. Did Mr. Ketchum respect her wishes? Nope, he went ahead and did it anyway! He also went out of his way to embellish the story to make it even more gruesome and disturbing, going as far as adding a rape scene and molestation subplot that did not happen, purely for shock value. Basically, The Girl Next Door just exploits the very real torture of a very real girl and I regret watching it after learning what I know now.
You are aware that Ellen Page played Sylvia Likens in the other movie about the incident called an "American Crime"? Anyway people should know Sylvia's story and that the monsters that did it barely served anytime for torture, now laws have changed. Jack Ketchum is a true crime novelist like Anne Rule, this isn't the only crime that he's written about, derp.
@@vantastic9367 An American Crime at least has the decency to respect Sylvia’s memory by portraying her as a person and not a punching bag and more is implied than shown. It also came out *after* Jenny’s death.
As someone who does actually like some of these movies, I think it's so so important to respect people who won't subject themselves to certain things. At the end of the day, being a fan of horror is about enjoying it, and if you force yourself to watch things you hate you're unavoidably going to fall out of love with the genre
It's so odd that i absolutely understand where youre coming from with the "common theme", cause as woman i can't watch brutal SA/kidnap/torture movies anymore. I used to be able to watch them, but now it just gives me major anxiety. Remembering back to having watched megan is missing, the girl next door and irreversible, i just feel sick, because this shit happens in real life too.
Exactlyyyy. The reason Megan is missing really messed with me was because it could so easily be real. Like stuff like that happens in real life. Maybe I’ve watched more “graphic” movies, but that one is one I’ll never want to watch again
Yes I feel the same way. As a survivor of SA I have a lot of trouble watching movies that are highly exploitative of women (especially). I do however see the appeal of the "realistic" horror movies like Megan is Missing, I think because it's so real it is that much more effective. But there is a line to it, I think it is only good if it's written well and not just played out for shock value. There are good ways and bad ways to tell stories and if a story must include SA and torture I think it should be written properly.
i watched An American Crime (similar to the girl next door) when i was way too young…i was 9 and 11 years later it still haunts me. it’s horrifying. i’m not sure how it was only rated R but Scream was almost rated NC-17 because of a few bloody scenes.
That edgy gatekeeper is hilarious. "Look how cool I am for finding animal cruelty, sexual assault, and nauseating violence entertaining!" Was he rejected by his high school crush, so now he wants to prove that he's a tough man for liking gore or what? I always see an overlap between horror gatekeepers and incels... Edit: gore and horror are not the same genre, but some moviemakers pretend they are. The goal of horror is to scare the audience, not to make them rush to the toilet...
I've always loved gorey horror films + video games. But I can easily understand why they don't appeal to everyone. I'd imagine that most who don't enjoy gore aren't a big fan of the horror genre. At least the ones made since the 60's. Gatekeeping is annoying, though.
@@Neo_Geisha but gore isn't all there is to horror. I don't like gore at all, but I will deal with it if the movie is extremely interesting/scary. I like the psychological thrillers the most because they don't need gore to be good/fun horror movies. Also I feel like the person talking down to Sarah was referring to exploitation films and not just gore, but I could be wrong.
I want to be scared, not scarred, when I watch a horror film. I want to be creeped out, but I don’t want to be depressed and a lot of the violence against women and animals in horror films just makes me sad and angry.
Exactly. Horror is supposed to be "exciting" in a certain way....if someone is "excited" by that it's obvious they are watching these movies for different reasons....just my personal opinion
@@marianadamelio are you acting obtuse on purpose? Are are you actually under the impression that r**e is the only violence that exists? The majority (over 90%) of homicide victims in movies(and in real life) are men. Why is your empathy only limited to women?
I can watch most disturbing, extreme movies but once you have seen it you can't unsee it. You are right your boundaries are for you. That fellow calling you a little girl is pathetic. Just keep doing your thing xxxx
You are for sure not alone in this!! SA is even more scary and upsetting because it's something that is most likely to actually happen to someone (or happened in the past). I often can't watch these movies either way, because the response the rest of the characters have to it just upsets me even more.
@Nikia C i can definitely see where you're coming from with that, and honestly yeah in most cases it isn't even necessary to have those scenes, it's feels so...exploit-y?
SAME. I love to see a good revenge story but I can’t handle an SA scene more then 1 minuet. And I think 1 minute is plenty of time, like you show what’s going on and we get it. You don’t gotta show the entire 20 minute ordeal. I understand that some film makers are trying to show how awful and uncomfortable SA really is, but I feel like some film makers just do it because it’s gruesome.
Evil dead caught me off guard with the rapey tree scene. It was pretty triggering for me. Also warning incase you didn't know this about evil dead, the first movie
I think people on this comments section misunderstand the concept of gatekeeping. They are NOT preventing you from watching what you want to watch. OK the comments of said gatekeeper are stupid dickish and patronising...but not gatekeeping. Its much like me saying youre not a horror fan because you like 80s horror...how on earth does that prevent someone watching an 80s horror? How exactly is a comment preventing someone having access to stuff?
I feel like rape just isn’t something anyone needs to show or allude to. But hey maybe I’m just not a real horror fan. Rape is horror in it’s own self without including it in any media.
@@kellymcphaul2793 exactly. Rape is something women have to fear happening to them every day, always looking over their shoulder. If you enjoy watching rape scenes you’re not a horror fan you’re a sadist
I have severe ptsd from traumatic sexual assualt by a family member when i was 14. Im 38 with 2 kids now. The family member was in a position of authority (law enforcement) and had access to and used weapons. Not only do I have emotional scars, I have physical scars. I have to google every single movie i want to watch bc i can't watch certain things. Sometimes I get really mad at myself and try to watch or push thru...and i regret it every time. I thank God for my partner. Not only is he aware of my past, he will google movies also for me, when I have nightmares he helps me tremendously ground myself. Uniforms. Cant do em. Beards can't do em. Mirrored aviator sunglasses, alcohol cant do em. If im in public and he sees any of this *POOF* hes right there. Sometimes he sees this stuff before me. Anyway yea i can't watch anything like that and i understand how it may be part of the story but does it actually need to be seen? No.
@@meganmorgan8597 I feel you there on some things. While my abuse history isn't as bad, I was victimized both by a partner and by the legal system afterwards. After a very public meltdown in a movie theatre while watching Fifty Shades of Grey, I learned I need to check into basically every movie before I watch it.
Yes Sarah, promote those healthy boundaries boo!! I still remember watching The Hills Have Eyes when I was 12 or so and the severe SA scene traumatized me so much. I’m in my mid-20’s and I still refuse to rewatch that movie.
Frrr I will never watch gore movies bc those types are not scary n they are lame as hell. Into more of that paranormal, psychological, supernatural type shit but seeing ppl kill each other is not interesting lmao
Im unfairly singling you out ...explain exactly what gatekeeping is...I almost guarantee you wont be able to explain what it is and how it applies here
Antichrist (2009) The Girl Next Door (2007) Cannibal Holocaust (1980) Salo 100 Days Of Sodom (1975) Nekromantik (1987) August Underground Mordum (2003) Irreversible (2002) Melancholie Der Engel (2009) All of the movies 😊
I've watched cannibal holocaust and salo, and to me they are average films I would not consider them to be uncomfortable but that's just my twisted brain 😂
I am a huge gore hound, I've watched horror for the last 30 years. When I was younger I would push to watch extreme horror out just to see how far I could go and curiosity, but as I've gotten older I find I no longer have the stomach for it especially after I became a mother. Everyone is allowed boundaries it doesn't make you less of a fan. Some people don't seem to understand that tastes changes, your boundaries and what you are willing to stomach changes. My husband still watches extreme horror like Serbian movie and Salo but I couldn't watch them, though I Loved movies like Green Inferno, I also loved irreversible, but I also soured on cannibal holocaust once I learned of actual animal cruelty.
Green Inferno was actually not that bad to me, I thought for sure it would be a lot worse given what inspired it and who directed it, but it felt kinda tame all things considered.
Gender gatekeeping is present in literally EVERYTHING (e.g., certain music bands, movie film buffs, pro gaming in twitch, especially rock or metal music and like you mention, the horror genre.)
It was just some random “clown” who made a negative comment. Just block them/ignore it & keep it moving. A majority of this comment section portrays this “gatekeeping” as an actual barrier that prevents her/people from the opportunity to do ANY of these things and that’s just not true. In 1st World countries we can literally do EVERYTHING.
@@mjthedealer it doesn't stop her from watching and enjoying those movies but it is annoying to have little boys trying to quiz us on those subjects for no reason.
@@naylasworld2351 people tend to ask questions about similar interest for example if i know a friend likes a band i know i might ask them "her have you herd their first album" because 1.if they havent i could give them the name so they look it up 2.talk about what they liked or didnt liked idk why some girls always act like because you ask them questions you are tryna call them out or something also yeah gatekeeping is a thing in alot of things because old school fans get annoyed when something becomes trendy and everybody jumps on the fad band wagon and a lot of these things have grown into cultures sooo yeah its pretty annoying when someone dont know were the history or have appreciation for the roots that have grown into the culture its like saying your a huge tupac fan when you herd like 2 radio singles and bought a shirt at walmart your not a tupac fan you dont even know the majority of his work gatekeeping is a thing to sham trendy posers cuz they should be shammed also u cant cry about "sexism" because someone said little girl then use little boy as an insult thats called being a hypocrite and even if its unjustly annoying its still a first world problem.....only the ignorant and uninformed complain about gatekeeping u gotta problem with it learn a thing or 2 and prove ur stripes like the rest of us do.....girls hate it when they dont treated like royalty and call it oppression not understanding thats how most men live their entire lives... i look forward to your angry reply
this video should be called “traumatizing movies that I won’t subject myself to” 😓 I don’t think it’s even a matter of being scared, it’s fair to avoid extremely triggering/graphic content
@@darriengreen5561 I don’t think we need to see people being tortured or raped. There’s literally no necessary reason to see that happen on screen in a movie. It’s disgusting.
for anyone who has a morbid fascination with these types of movies but can’t bring themselves to watch them, the channel spooky rice does really good videos summing them up and reviewing them, including a fair amount from this list. he’s also very entertaining and i really recommend his videos!
I find “watching “ these movies through him so much easier to stomach. Plus I can quell my morbid curiosity. Kinda like watching through my fingers... hands over my face. LOL
I loathe horror movies that revel in pain. I despise movies that exist solely for the purpose of disgusting their audience. It’s not hard to cause nausea. Good plot, good acting, good cinematography, and good writing, require talent. Those who have none just go for shock.
Overly and unnecessary gore, r4pe and torture(mostly on kids and animals) is something that i don't like and that doesn't make me less or more of a horror fan, we all have a limit. I love your videos girl keep going♥️
Yeah horror is my favourite genre but I generally don't like to watch shit that has graphic rape/sexual assault scenes because well... it's triggering and not fun to watch! It's a fucking downer.
I feel the same. I like horror but make it scary. We all know what fucked up is. I dont need to see fucked up it isnt scary its just gross for the sake of it and that to me isnt the essence of horror. Maybe others disagree but thats my two cents. Nothing weird about that sentiment whatsoever.
for those of you who DO want to know more about these movies, i know SpookyRice does awesome breakdowns of super disturbing horror and thriller movies!!! nothing at all wrong with having boundaries. don't subject yourself to things that will ultimately end up hurting your psyche. :(
this is so important! don’t let anyone downplay your boundaries. i also enjoy some of those channels that do a short 10m-20m type of video summary on a movie. there’s this one channel i forgot the name but they recap scary movies using a AI voice from online lol.
How in-depth does SpookyRice's breakdowns go? I'm the morbidly curious type, and I know that I can't even handle more details than "it involves SA." I am really interested in film / horror film but I know my boundaries leave little room to enjoy anything.
@@sophie427 Definitely more in depth than that- sometimes he shows things too! For me it's great bc I can take a 10 minute wrap up divorced from having to actually feel involved, lol, but he absolutely explains what happens
For me re the animal cruelty it depends on whether or not it was specifically done for the movie. For example, in Apocalypse Now the buffalo sacrifice scene near the end is actual footage of a real buffalo being slaughtered. However, the crew didn't kill the animal themselves, they merely took advantage of a local sacrifice ritual and filmed it in the background. Same goes for the opening scene in Gaspar Noe's Carne, which shows a horse being slaughtered and gutted for meat. Again, it's real, but they went to a slaughterhouse to film the scene, they didn't kill the horse themselves. For me that's ok, but I draw the line at animals being killed specifically for the movie, like Cannibal Holocaust (I mean tbf I've seen Cannibal Holocaust twice because it's a legitimately great movie, but I always skip over the animal cruelty scenes). I couldn't care less about sexual violence in a movie provided it's fictional in the same way that I couldn't care less about any other horrible act (again, provided it's fictional). But to each their own, of course (for example, I specifically don't like scenes where dogs are hurt or killed; I'll watch them if the movie is good, but I'd prefer a movie not to contain them).
There's a whole "iceberg" list of disturbing movies now, most of which you would probably want to avoid watching. "Wendigoon" made a great video on that recently.
His video has a bit of misinformation in it. He states that a handful of the movies contain illegal content which is not true. Excluding all mentions of the illegal content his video does give very, very brief descriptions of the movies.
I preferred Mista GGs take on it, he didnt discuss every movie on there as he watches disturbing movies and gives them reviews for his channel. He just explains a basic plot of the movie and whether he might watch it for his channel or not.
@Thefemalearrow Faces of death are legit deaths on camera so the fact that is in the middle probably the last few layers are purely snuff. I've seen a soldier get his neck sawed out in real time while hes gasping for air in one faces of death. No way its fake as it was online when I was a kid and there wasn't the kind of editing they had today.
@@andnowyourot I mean the iceberg did have Cannibal Holocaust on it and that movie did have actual animal cruelty and that's pretty illegal, not saying everything was accurate I wouldn't know personally but saying none of the movies had anything illegal in them is probably just as inaccurate. Not trying to argue just saying
You DO understand that that happens nearly every day down there. Because the natives have to eat as well. That's called reality and it's a place we all live in.
you are so right about the gatekeeping, let's all enjoy whatever we enjoy. Also I've seen most of theses movies and i could've live my life without traumatizing myself
I'm fed up of wannabe "hardcore horror fans" contest, aka "duh! that wasn't even scary I yawned lol". Entertainment isn't a contest, boundaries are personal and to be taken seriously, and as long as someone enjoy horror movies, whatever subgender it is, they are horror fans. Full stop.
To this day, nothing has scared me more than that one episode of courage the cowardly dog where that guy breaks out of a mental hospital and starts cutting everyone's hair..... I wish I was kidding, I genuinely couldn't sleep and had to talk to someone abt it
That show freaked me out bigtime as a kid but I for some reason kept watching. I think I pretended like I was "hate watching" it because Courage always annoyed me, but really I was kind of disturbed
For me it was the episode with the zombie director and that moon head thing from the episode about Eustace having to grow crops before the full moon?!! Creepy stuff, but awesome show.
Horror gatekeeping is so weird like... being scared can be such a personal experience and limits you put on it are so personal how on earth can you tell someone they’re doing it ‘wrong’
I saw “I spit on your grave” when I was in high school and I felt so uncomfortable and ended up getting made fun of, a 15 minute rape scene made me more aware of PTSD from films. I think some of these movies are similar to the shock videos of the early days of the internet. Its ok to not be ok with some of these.
I thought last house on the left was the looooongest uncomfortable assult scene ever and I saw it in theaters. You could hear a pin drop.. then I saw I spit on your grave😱😱
I found your rant at the beginning very reassuring. I've been hesitant to call myself a horror fan because I prefer B movies and obscure movies to the jumpscare heavy classics, so thank you for making me feel validated.
I watched almost every one of this movies, i don't recommend it. Specially Irreversible. The year that i watched it i was sexually assaulted and i got a panic attack by watching it. No, no one told me what the movie was about, it was a friend that is a horror fan like me invited me to watch movies and it was even more shocking to watch that scene cause i didnt expected. Im really scared of walking alone in those type of places cause i remember that scene everytime and I don't want that to happen again. I love horror but animal violence and rape are a big no for me, im tired of the multiple sexual assault scenes that are in this genre.
i absolutely hate how assault kind of gets even fantasized about in these movies, like why do we NEED to see someone sexually assaulted? I feel like if ppl need sexual assault in your horror movie to get people talking you may have issues LOL
Yeah I get you there I unfortunately watched Midsommar without realizing there was a huge graphic rape scene. As a survivor I had a full on breakdown after seeing that. Still a horror fan, but I wont touch anything with rape or torture.
I can't and refuse to watch movies containing animal abuse or torture, etc. Cannibal Holocaust keeps being suggested to me and I'm like "No. Never." We all have things we don't want to see.
I watched, like a third of cannibal holocaust. It's not only abhorrent in its themes and content, it's just a bad movie over all. Same goes for a Serbian Film
I agree. I will say, there apparently is a cut of Cannibal Holocaust with all of the animal scenes omitted, and it's available on one blu-ray release that I know of, so if you ever were curious enough you could watch that. But I am on the same train as you, I don't want to see real animals being harmed. Idk if I will ever watch the cut version or not myself
I've seen The Girl Next Door and it's so heartbreaking, it's not even that graphic it's just heartbreaking that it actually happened in real life, I had difficulty sleeping for a few days :(
You can both love horror and have boundaries, I enjoy a good scary movie but I would still never watch Salo or A Serbian Film, I also hate seeing unnecessary sexual violence
love how you cleared that person who made that immature comment. who gets upset over the type of horror movies people enjoy.. we have to love horror movies with extreme gore (something that crosses the lines) to be considered a true horror fan? it’s literally not that deep. we’re all just here to enjoy.
I have seen most of these films and I support your sentiments. I’m a middle aged guy and a life-long horror fan and I used to think I had to subject myself to extremes - in film, in literature, and music. I used to like the edges and the uncomfortable places. I outgrew all that. And I have a lot of stuff in my head I can’t get rid of. Don’t ever push yourself into territory you aren’t comfortable with and certainly don’t let anyone gatekeep your decision not to!
Agree! When I grew up those internet sites with real violence and accidents were super big, and so my friends subjected people to it for "fun and laughter". I still vividly remember them and wish they could have been a bit more grown up about it, because those pictures will never leave me.
@@theobscenekiwi I've seen some horrific shit online. Stuff that has fucked me up for the rest of my life. You're not weak for choosing not to watch these.
Brilliant topic for a horror channel. Personally, I can't watch anything in the "torture p0rn" genre. That stuff doesn't scare me but just makes lose all faith in humanity. There's enough in reality that makes me feel that way, I don't need to watch movies that reinforce it.
I watched movies like Hostel and the first couple Saw movies, and then Green Inferno, I decided that I didn’t like the torture films... and then ended up watching the French Marytrs because it seemed like it was a favorite on most lists and it completely fucked me up. I want to be scared and even terrified, but I hate that those films are what it takes to push me to that limit.
Honestly, I really appreciated what you said at the beginning. I'm an extremely nervous person and still love a little bit of horror here and there. I hate when people downplay the scary movies I like because they aren't "scary enough" but what's the point of puting disgusting images in your head? For me that isn't fun, and if it isn't fun, why are you watching it?
I like how uncomfortable it can make me without actually putting me in danger. I definitely prefer very a narrative driven disturbing film such as Tod Solonz Happiness. Movies like the August Underground Trilogy really do nothing for me
Honestly, "extreme horror" of this type really just feels like stuff made to give neckbeard edgelords something to be elitist about because most people won't actually sit down and watch for long enough to realize all these movies are piles of crap. You're not missing out on much by avoiding these movies.
“All these movies are a pile of crap”... and you call people who like extreme horror pretentious? Way to pass judgement on an entire subgenre and fanbase because of your own biases.
Movies like Martyrs and Cannibal Holocaust are as good as they are because their ethical/philosophical messages are bolstered by brutal, visceral, and deeply discomforting imagery and themes. “All these movies are piles of crap” Lmao I can’t tell if you’re a neckbeard edgelord yourself and just projecting, or if you don’t even believe what you’re saying and you’re simping for the cool UA-cam horror woman
Although I would like to add that the real animal cruelty in Cannibal Holocaust was unnecessary, that there’s nothing wrong with not wanting to see that, and that there are versions of the film from which those scenes were cut
@@JR-rk3hs maybe some people would rather not put themselves through hours of exploitative media. having an opinion different to your own is hardly pretentious…..
@@charlie-vn9ze are you being willfully obtuse because you don’t enjoy movies with extreme content, or do you genuinely not know the difference between “I’d rather not watch movies with extreme content” and “all movies with extreme content are piles of crap”
I’ve seen The Girl Next Door, and it’s very unsettling and tragic. The movie An American Crime is even more close to the actual case, and I’ve researched the case of Sylvia Likens, who these movies are about. What happened to her was horrific, and beyond my understanding of what people can be capable of.
i remember watching that film, i was completely unaware of the r*pe scene, i had a panic attack... i will never watch that film again. the case is so sad
I've seen an American Crime and I don't remember it being graphic as much as .... depressing. Idk if I just removed chunks of memory from my mind or what
@@briantalbot7929 it's almost like personal experiences someone has gone through can make it more difficult to watch it or something. crazy concept, i know.
I watched Megan is missing when I was VERY young, way too young. It didn’t bother me at that time but now whenever I see a photo from THE scene it takes me hours to get the image out of my head and collect myself. I can’t watch SA/kidnapping/etc movies because of it, it hits a little too close to home knowing these things actually happen everyday. I’m purely a fantasy horror fan because I know there isn’t actually a dream demon coming to unalive me.
I’m sensitive and I’m a horror fan. I like paranormal and fun horror. Or thrillers. Nothing with kids. I pretty much agree with your whole video. I don’t want to be upset.
I have seen it few times. There are few scenes I hate(anyone who has seen the movie knows what I'm talking about) but overall it not as bad as everyone says.
This is really refreshing to see. Sometimes I tried to “enjoy” movies that weren’t my thing even though I knew they wouldn’t be before I even watched it just for the sake of the Horror Fan title. Thank you for your awesome perspective on this!
I'd really recommend getting a friend to watch Antichrist and write down timestamps to fast-forward through. Or even edit them out. There aren't that many shocking gross scenes, just a couple graphic ones that you can miss and still appreciate the film. It's such a gorgeous, profound film, especially for anybody who's suffered from depression. Brought me to tears towards the end.
Such a painful meditation on grief and human/gender dynamics. Definitely one that has stuck with me since watching. Really disturbing and thought provoking. The cinematography and acting are amazing as well.
Can anyone give me a spoiler and at least tell me if the most shocking scene is rape??? Please. I really want to watch it but I hate rape scenes (understandably).
@@ratfishking Check out the IMDb content guide for the film if you’re still not sure, but Willem Dafoe’s character has his penis mutilated and then stimulated, all while he’s unconscious.
I saw Nekromantik on the night that the Toronto Blue Jays won the World Series in 1992 or 1993. We suffered through this grim and disgusting film and then emerged into a wild party of positivity and cheering with people driving around hollering and horn blaring. It was quite the emotional roller coaster.
this honestly reminded me that there is a line between being disturbed and being disturbed to the point you are no longer entertained. I tend to forget that a lot and push myself into watching movies that I shouldn't. I made myself watch Megan Is Missing because so many horror fans were telling me I needed to. I hated that movie, I watched it like five years ago now and I can still remember the entire last part of the movie with excruciating detail, I'll remember parts of it out of nowhere and be on edge for hours. I knew going into it I shouldn't watch the movie but I did because "being uncomfortable is the point of the genre". It isn't, not when it isn't fun anymore
I couldn’t even get through the Wikipedia article about her murder, I know I would never be able to stomach a film version. I hope Sylvie is at peace now
I listen to a lot of true crime podcasts so I know about the original case and knowing someone thought that was worth making a movie out of disgusts me.. It's horrifically sad.
63 year old male, here. I have been a horror fan since childhood, watching the original Frankenstein on late night television. You like what you like. Your boundaries are your own. Gatekeeping is horse manure.
As someone who was non-consensually shown explicit horror films as a child, thank you for this. There IS a line. And I got shoved over it and it fucked me up. You aren't vanilla. You are sane.
I'm so sorry that happened to you. I'm a horror fan but I would never force a kid or even allow them to watch certain movies. Some things really stick with you as a kid and it can be much more upsetting than seeing those things as an adult.
I watched the original stephen king pet semetary when i was 5 or 6 and i legit legit could not sleep for 2 days. I felt like the little boy who cut the guys achilles heel was going to come out from under my bed and murder me. You are not alone lol but no regrets love my parents they let me and my sister watch whatever lol but our generation (assuming you are a millenial) our parents just let us watch whatever even at a young age.
I was forced to watch awful stuff as well. My dad would say I'd be okay. I had to legit have a full trama meltdown before my mom would grow a backbone and make my dad let me leave.
Boundaries is so healthy, especially when it comes to leisure and hobby time which should be completely about unpressured personal choice. Thank you for speaking about people demanding we are “horror-fan-enough” for them- everything seems to turn into a competition!
There is a French film I do not remember the name of[Last Tango In Paris], but it has a rape scene. Which the actress did not know what was going to happen. She was totally unaware it was going to happen, and the male actor fake had sex with her. He totally planned it and her freaking out was acting. The director wanted her actual reaction. It looks and feels super real because it is. SO GROSS. "what was going on, because I wanted her reaction as a girl, not as an actress." - The Director.
I remember trying to watch The Shining (Kubrick's) and having that feeling of yield and deep evil coming from that hotel. The first time I stopped watching it, I turned off my computer and I left the room (it was dark)... The second time I watched the whole thing, and I loved it... a pure classic!!!
"You can be squeamish and anxious and still be a horror fan." Thank you! I love the horror genre. I love the political undertones, I think that the making of them is very interesting, I enjoy the art of acting and the art of making something scary believable. I enjoy the work that goes into the deaths and injuries. I *can't* actually watch most horror movies because they trigger my anxiety really really bad. Like full-blown panic attacks, sick to my stomach kind of bad. So I have to watch reviews from people and kill counts from Dead Meat to be able to "watch" horror movies. Anyway, your response to that comment was just really validating for me so thank you.
girl i am just like you. for example the movie eden lake - i know it’s supposed to be great but also utterly upsetting and depressing. no thank you. no shame in protecting yourself from bad feels
lila l-I agree with you, just because someone enjoys horror doesn't mean they're going to enjoy every kind of horror movie that gets made, we all have our limits. And you're right about Eden Lake, I saw that movie years ago, & i remember it being an incredibly difficult movie to watch. I love horror, but Eden Lake is one horror movie I wont be rewatching, the ending seriously messed me up.
Thank you for this. I’m so passionate about horror movies, but i know my boundaries. I absolutely cannot watch rape scenes without bawling my eyes out or going into a panic attack. I want to enjoy the movie not fuck up my mental health.
I LOVED Martyrs but I balled for hours after and couldn’t think straight for days because of it. THAT I’ll never watch again but you don’t know until you sit down and watch it. I guess that’s how I look at it.
I LOVE Martyrs. It's one of my favorite movies of all time. But, oh boy, I'm NEVER watching it again. 1- because I don't want to ruin the first watching experience and 2- damn it traumatized me hahaha. It sent me back to my depressive thoughts thinking about the meaninglessness of life and all that. This type of movie is actually very dangerous, I mean, it COULD lead someone closer to suicide if they're already suicidal. It's too real. Anyway, I hate gatekeepers in this community (or in general), they have a complete disregard to other people's mental wellbeing.
For me it isn't how "gross" it is...it's a bleak and really vicious flick. It doesn't feel cheesy like other exploitation flicks. The animal free version is the way to go and Deodato says that's his preferred cut.
My sister and I are huge horror fans since childhood, but as you said, there are certain boundaries we don't cross. She cannot see any r4p3 scenes nor wrist slashing/cutting, it triggers her so bad. In my case, i can't bear to watch any graphic torture/death of children, even a child crying in movies stresses me so much. Anything else I can watch easily. Been enjoying your channel recently! Subscribed
Im the same with self harm. I have zero problem with the most depraved bloody, gorey scene but I can't watch self harm. It like pokes that sleeping demon in me and I don't like it at all.
I cannot watch or tolerate seeing sexual or violent abuse to men, women, or children in movies and any form of animal cruelty or abuse. These are my cut offs in a film. If I see it I have to turn it off.
There’s nothing wrong with having boundaries with films. I feel like the exploitation/disturbing film genre is purely for shock value rather than actual enjoyment. Each to their own though I guess. I myself can’t watch films involving s*xsual violence, eye trauma or babies/pregnancy. Extra avoiding films with all 3.
Your rant at the beginning resonated with me deeply and made me feel welcome here. I don't know what it's like to be a horror fan and a woman, but I know what it's like to be a horror fan and a sensitive, anxious, ptsd-trigger-warning-needing person.
As a woman, its so nice to see so many men in the comment section backing up this sentiment, and making women feel welcome. Im also someone who's sensitive in a particular way, i have a pretty intense blood phobia, and body horror is one of my favorite genres. So i still subject myself to it in ways i know i can handle, but there are just some movies i will not touch because i dont want to literally PASS OUT just to be 'hardcore enough'.
I'm usually extremely and deeply bothered by movies regarding cannibalism to the point I can't eat any kind of meat for a bit, but the racism also not a very nice aspect of the films either (granted most of the movies I've seen in passing on the topic had white people as the cannibals, but then again I avoid most of the movies that blatantly tried to get a piece of the controversial success pie that Cannibal Holocaust started). And also the animal cruelty. I've seen a few movies with real animal cruelty on camera and it made them go from just laughably bad to legit horrible.
i just found your channel! as a horror lover who's a woman, i have watched countless horror movies with so much unnecessary sexual violence towards women that gives nothing to the story. i hate that these are male writers, producers, and directors making these films too. i feel like such a big part of the horror genre is men making women even smaller than they are in reality. where as i can see it is horror because that is in fact scary to me as a woman, i don't need scares like that when i am constantly scared that those things are actually going to happen to me and these male directors and writers have no clue how real that fear is to just play with and put on film.
i hate it too. i roll my eyes whenever it starts to happen in a movie. used to repulse me but now i just dont care. i just think its hilarious and pathetic how much they rely on it for cheap scares. i also feel like it says something about the writer and director. probably one of their sick fantasies.
“Little girl” Ugh. I want you to know that you made it okay for me to be a horror fan. I’d always loved the genre, but your videos were my gateway into the fandom. Horror is still seen as something with a largely male fan base, where women need to prove that they’re “real fans.” The gatekeeping happens all the time but you make it easier for women to hold space in the horror community! ❤️
@@southerncinephile6258 The problem isn't whether or not that it's scary. I promise you that if you took out all the animal scenes, most people wouldn't remember it too well. The problem is the animal cruelty itself, it's unnecessarily fucked up.
Man, it's so weird that this guy really had the nerve to say that stuff after you've literally sat through some really disturbing films. The point you made about not having to like every aspect of the genre is really good, keep watching what you love :)
As a horror fan who tests my own limits, I don't blame you. Some of the movies I've seen are very difficult to shake off. Sometimes those limits in our minds are for good reason. Never let some numpty tell you how horror works 🖤
Agreed. I test my limits too but I totally get why people don’t want to see those types of movies and it for sure does not make them less of a horror fan!
Edgelords that gatekeep horror are the worst and they're the reason a lot of people are turned of by it. They're the type of people that show a scary movie to someone who doesn't want to watch it and makes them not like the genre for years afterwards. Let people watch whatever they enjoy.
The “horror isn’t for you” comment is so pretentious and annoying. If you like horror movies, you’re a horror fan! You don’t have to like any specific film to call yourself a fan of the genre
sounds like horror might not be for you😬
Yes i mean , there like a million sub genre in horror...
some fake hips are just being too self-called "woke" and starting to lok down on ppl by comparing tastes
like, you're already not "woke" by doing that lollll
Cute shinji icon ~
yea i dont get how someone can be so gatekeepy that they think you have to be interested in every movie of a genre. imagine saying "what you dont like every romantic comedy? guess youre not a REAL fan :/"
I am not ashamed to admit I am scared to watch Cats (2019)
I've seen and enjoyed Antichrist, and *I'm* scared to watch Cats...
Cats will haunt me for the rest of my days
I watched Cats while intoxicated with my partner and we both can’t believe we actually watched it and didn’t just fever dream it. Was genuinely upsetting but a sick part of me wants to watch it again lol
Saaaame
I watched it and i am not sure if i will ever recover from it.
The moment a man uses "little girl" in an argument.... it's over. He lost.
I bet you win a lot of arguments...in your mind.
I enjoy eating copious amounts of expensive cheeses.
He’s probably an incel.
“Little girl” is such a weak insult. It’s just inaccurate, and reflects poorly on that dude’s character.
@@hypnotistraywilliams Projecting a bit? Lol.
As a horror lover, and a rape victim, it makes me feel extremely uneasy seeing sexual violence in movies, particularly when it doesn't add anything to the story and is for shock value only. It feels like a such a cheap "thrill", and an incredibly overused one. This video legit made me feel seen and less alone 💞
I am scared to death by that kind of violence even as a rather large man myself. I cannot stand anything coming close to...anyways. I hope you are doing better.
It's so common in movies because "rape" is the closest violation to killing another person.
@@mr.e6748 Im doing great hahah thanks for the message 😊
I feel like in a lot of movies, sexual violence against women is not meant to be shock value, but pure entertainment for people who like toying with the idea. So as a women myself, no thank you forever and ever.
THIS. My horror is not your plot point, thanks. Make your statement in a more creative and interesting way.
I'm a 50 year old male, with CPTSD, ADHD, and HSP, and I have been a horror fan since grade school. And I have my own boundaries and triggers. Some films, I wish I hadn't seen. Age, gender, has nothing to do with it. I dig your video. Consider me a new fan.
Yoooo I have CPTSD and ADHD as well and none of my therapists get why I am so into horror while being traumatized and super anxious irl.
Just wonderwing which films they are ? I am the same never watched cannibal holocaust, faces of death etc and I am a huge horror fan
I have autism and adhd and I agree
I’m 58 years, and a long time horror / disturbing / weird / “it’s so bad, it’s good” fan. (This is how I describe them).
TWO movies that mentally destroyed me:
House (1977). This movie tore my soul apart, because it defies category, and this mentally broke me. You can say it’s an experiential film, but you’d be wrong. The problem with this movie, is that it is not of this universe. It exists outside of it, where the laws of physics does not exist.
Birdemic. This POS supposed “it’s so bad, it’s good” is endlessly frustrating because it is so bad, it’s SO VERY BAD, it hurts the mind. I wanted to rip my eyes out with a warm spoon after bravely watching this garbage.
Everything else...I get it. Dirty, disgusting, filthy, profoundly disturbing...no problem, I understand. Ask me to watch House and Birdemic as q double feature, and I’d rather get a rope and a stool.
Peace! ✌️
If Snoop Dogg says it's bad then there's nothing else to discuss 😔🤚
Nah Snoop a loop has done some pretty bad and disturbing shit himself, like making a song with Corey Feldman 😂
@@NukaCola514 Corey Feldman was in The Goonies tho. Does that make The Goonies a bad movie?
WAP still slaps tho
@@myettechase There's nothing wrong with slapping some nice WAPs.
@@infectedstray2188 hm. Poor phrasing on my part 😅
Calling you "little girl" was just the perfect combination of creepy and condescending
Probably some guy who goes by the name Matt87Writer from what I remember, a real piece of §hit.
More like someone just trying to be a jerk or a bully. Kind of like the cancel culture mob that hangs out there.
Agreed
i jokingly call my girl "little girl" and she always lights up when i say it
@@MikeG82 That's different from saying it condescendingly. Saying it as a term of endearment is one thing. Using it as a way of talking down to someone, or as a way of making someone's argument seem null and void is something else entirely. He was doing the latter. Hence why she was, rightfully, upset.
If anyone has as much morbid curiosity as I do about these movies but won’t watch them, SpookyRice has done summary movies about basically any disturbing film on this list. That way you can get a good vibe without sitting through them 🤙🏻💖
I love his channel! He’s amazing
Spookyrice is awesome! Comes off as a good guy too
TheNewBee is a similar channel; that's how I know about The Human Centipede trilogy and Antichrist
That or big will with “the brutality of…” series or even kill count. I always watch reviews/ analysis of movies I’m too scared of or read about them on Wikipedia
“You can have anxiety and be a horror fan.” I’m a horror fan *because* of my anxiety.
amen
@@PossessedbyHorror
if its ok to recommend a movie to avoid for your next installment...
try to skip "Jesus Christ Serial Rapist"
sounds like fun.... not always
@@missymurder1602 Whoa, that's a bomb ass movie title! The movie sounds pretty shitty though:
A schizophrenic man who believes he is Jesus kidnaps women who refuse to believe his delusion He videotapes himself with these women he has tied up in various states of bondage. He sends videotapes to the media labeled "Gospels of Blood," which are just photographs of naked women in bondage, usually crucified in some way, with the camera panning and zooming over the photos. These photographs account for more than half of the running time. There is no diegetic sound, only a few title cards, although there is a soundtrack of heavy metal music.
Mine is from my severe OCD lol
Hmmm-maybe that's why I watch so many horror movies.
I want every movie from now on to be rated by how much Snoop Dogg liked them.
Same
Lol
This has 420 likes right now. Beautiful. :') not gonna like.
He could rate them with blunts. I give this video 4 out of 5 blunts. 😂
big agree
I literally refuse to watch anything with real animal cruelty, people eating feces and extended sexual assault scenes. I can't think of a good reason to have any of that. It just screams "Ooh look how edgy we are."
not edgy, it’s literally glorifying things. all these movies glorify a ton of shit. it’s disgusting. that isn’t film it’s trash.
@@jasonramos1233 I sort of disagree not every movie with extreme violence or sexual assault is trying to glorify it or doing it just for the sake of being edgy like The nightingale is a very powerful film for me
@@carlyfontane8310 no yes! i love the nightingale. but i’m talking about a serbian film type of movies. those are horrible. but yes nightingale is an amazing film
There's two things to remember here.
At the time there was this push for film makers to push the limits of what art was, they wanted to see what they could get away with. This is why all those stories of directors and film makers being arrested and all these court cases, happened in the 60s and 70s and not in the 90s. I definitely would not equate it to your modern edgy internet person, as there was legitimate art and government issues at the core of of all of this that we had to sort out.... hummm.... then again i guess we could say that about the internet as well given that there are notable and notably large, groups who are pushing for the concept of the first amendment being applied to major social media platforms (and i actually agree with that). But... Meh, whatever.
Second, the animal cruelty thing, this was a very different time. Animal rights had really just started to catch hold and most people were not overly concerned with a turtle being killed on film. I was partially raised by a grandfather who had a farm and while i did not like how unnecessary the killing was (that could be argued though) i definitely didnt have a guttural reaction to the killing itself.
After the 60s and 70s, when we get into the gore and exploitation of the 2000s.... yah, i guess you could say people are doing it just to be doing it, whatever. Its not my cup of tea but i guess it holds its place in film.
@@jasonramos1233 You know what?
Im going to point something out here and as i said in my last post, these exploitation and super realistic gore movies are not something i really care for. Ive seen hundreds of them but i pretty much stopped watching them quite a while ago.
I will quote something i hear from Jay on Red Letter Media all the time.... those movies you're saying are so horrible and terrible... you remember them.
You probably don't even remember the last 10 movies you watched. If you watched 3 movies last week, im betting you barely, of at all, remember details of those 3 movies.
But you'll remember that one time you saw AntiChrist 12 years ago.
You'll remember Serbian Film, even though you saw it half drunk, 10 years ago.
And you'll definitely remember Cannibal Holocaust even though you saw it one time, in 1993.
I’m a woman who sometimes likes more extreme/shocking horror, including some of these movies, partly out of pure curiosity over the limits of art, and partly because it helps me deal with some of my anxieties and traumas in a controlled setting. BUT there’s absolutely no reason to say somebody HAS to like these movies or they’re not a real horror fan. Everyone has different boundaries and preferences. It’s fine and healthy to avoid things that make you uncomfortable! Like you said, we all like different things. Gate keeping over who’s a “real” fan of anything is the worst.
I'm a 53 year old male, love horror but can't watch torture or possession movies anymore. Something about having kids that changes your taste.
For me having kids made horror all the better. What didnt disturb me before now does.
Is this the new "I'm 14 and"??
Why possession ? I dont get the connection with you having kids
@@basicbitch8874 Probably bc a decent number of possession movies do involve kids.
I just hate possession movies because they're all the same. Some good kid, gets possessed, starts doing weird stuff, talking in a deep voice, cursing, and flailing their arms a bunch as a priest is attempting an excorcism 🥱
That guy calling you "vanilla" as he blatantly ignores your boundaries because that's what he thinks bdsm is
I think its much simpler than that. He is a little basement kiddo that thinks watching the most gory horror movies will make him a "real man". hes compensating
@@tegridyfarms6851 true!!
“You don’t adore A Serbian Film? You vanilla little snowflake!” Ugh
he probably watches movies that glorify rape, animal cruelty and sexual assault and thinks that if you’re disgusted by that you’re “vanilla”
@@ccamilacedeno Can you name a single movie that glorifies that stuff without looking them up?
As long as you LIKE horror, you’re a horror fan. End of conversation.
I think because of 2 factors Horror can be very divisive or diverse. 1st horror is largely a personal taste thing, people get scared by different things which other may find laughable 2nd possibly because of the wide range of fears its possibly the only genre which has a large amount of sub genres. Horror is a broad church
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@Ghostface👻🔪 I think that’s a slight stretch I think that just means you’ve liked a single movie in a wide range a horror fan is someone who likes the horror genre not just a single movie
@Ghostface👻🔪 The only reason I've watched some horror movies is because I like the stories in them, but can't stand the aspects of them that *make* them horrifying. So I'd go so far to say I am not a fan of horror despite watching them.
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If you were wondering, ‘The girl next door’ was based off the case of Sylvia Likens. It’s similar to cases like Junko Furuta and Suzanne Capper, in that she was tortured for an extended period of time, and eventually killed.
And to add to this-- "American Crime" is also based off of her and her case. One of them is a lot more fictionalized than the other....I think "Girl Next Door" is the one that is more fictionalized, but not 100% sure.
@@MissJoy16American crime is a lot more palatable and less hard to watch
Junko stuck with me
An american crime was the closest to the book.
Suzanne capper...never heard of..
an American crime is about the same case
In the case of Sylvia Likens (The Girl Next Door) the woman was not her aunt she was a stranger whose kids had invited Sylvia and Jenny to visit and Gertrude offered to take care of them while their parents were on the road with a carnival.
This is why I love the movie Funny Games. It flips the mirror to the audience and pushed the question "why are you watching this and what are you hoping to see?". Alot of extreme horror fans don't like this movie because it purposely doesn't show alot of gore and doesn't contain any nudity when the female actress is in a comprising situation. It also gets flack for being long and a bit boring, but the whole point is to say "why would you want to see that? Why do you want to see her in this awful situation? Why do you want to see this family suffer? Why are you watching this?". Personally, I think it's one of the best thriller movies I've seen because it actually creeped me out and left me thinking after I turned it off, instead of relying on shock value and cheap jumpscares.
YES loved this movie for this very reason so good
Yessssss this movie stayed with me
@Jackie Nova I get how it could come across that way definitely. I think it was more aimed towards people who think you can't have a good horror movie without extremes like sexual assaults or extreme gore (to the point that if it's not there, people will dismiss a film immediately). And at directors who make down right disgusting films and hide behind the label of "shock horror".
@Alex Marrone I suggest you watch it! It's easier to come up with an opinon on it after you watch. Just keep in mind, the director even said most people either love it or hate it depending on their taste in horror movies.
Oooh, that sounds very interesting!
This is why I Marie Kondo my movies. I look them up and ask "in the end, will this spark joy?"
omg same haha I'm very interested in the horror genre but I've probably only seen about 10 horror films, I usually like to watch movies that'll make me feel better, or sad movies when I'm sad idk why
ahahahaha using marie kondo as a verb
I guess I don’t see that as a workable philosophy for living. Sometimes you find connection through pain. I can’t imagine tossing out all Otis Redding, Sam Cooke, Marvin Gaye, and Frank Sinatra music because it doesn’t spark joy while listening to it.
Around 75% of my all-time favourite movies have the bleakest and most nihilistic endings ever, so I'd be in trouble if I started doing that lol
My partner can't watch movies with sexual assault or rape scenes, and since dating them I've noticed just how often sexual assault is used in movies to get a cheap visceral reaction without actually having to write a good plot
my thoughts exactly
Unfortunately a lot of men have this kind of fetish and that is why they like those scenes. It's really sick and in a bad way. It's been fetishized in film for a long time. When people call it "rape culture" it isn't just being imagined when it's all through the movies and fetishized teaching new generations to fetishize rape which is an act of violence.
I absolutely agree with you! I believe that you do not need to have these scenes in order to demonstrate someone's evil and cruelty, or to help the audience understand the victim's trauma. A good writer would be able to do this effectively without resorting to such a horrifying tactic. Anyone who includes these scenes is just a bad, lazy writer, in my opinion.
In some cases, I would completely agree in that matter. Films that have explicit rape scenes that are just unnecessary and most of the time they are just trying to win over the title for most disturbing film. However, I would completely disagree if we were talking about Irreversible a film that includes a revolting rape scene that lasts pretty long but, in that film, it's a bit different understanding how it approaches these aspects of rape and the unrepairable events that occur afterwards. It's a film that's notorious for that one scene but it's used in such an implanting tone that no other film at that time was willing to extend (especially on topics that are so traumatic). Irreversible's talented director and flipped chronological order on how these events come to be is why I believe that despite it being probably one of the hardest films to watch it stands as probably one of the most important as well.
@@OKHolly Again it really just depends on the certain film being talked about in this scenario. Films like Serbian Film is pointless and cheap. However, if you exclude any of these horrifying tactics, especially on films that must depict it in such a fashion in order to get your attention, then you are just a film that's empty and devoid of any real memorability or earnestly. It's not necessarily that they are a bad writer but depending on what film you're talking about it could be the case.
The only movie I've ever seen where the sexual assault was very graphic and gratuitous but also was very crucial to the whole message and point of the movie was Irreversible. As a gay SA victim, I appreciated the film for putting you in the shoes of the victim and their loved ones, instead of just throwing it in for a graphic reaction. Its a very powerful and super disturbing film, but it has a very strong and important message.
Edit: I really enjoyed Antichrist, even though the genital mutilation scenes were very hard to stomach. It's a film with a vague and complex lore around it, and Lars Von Trier always seems to make his films feel like completely different worlds even though they are set in our timeline, on Earth.
I feel kinda weird now knowing I have seen every single film on this list minus the last one, the last one was made with zero substance or message it is solely for getting a shocked and repulsive reaction out of it viewers. I actually enjoyed a few of them lol. I can enjoy a disturbing movie as long as I don't find it pointless, or I don't feel as though they are just making a film for shock value. Films like Antichrist, Irreversible, and Salo have scenes where the directors intended to get a visceral and shocked and disgusted response from the viewers but they also have deeper meanings in the film and the graphic scenes progress and push the plot and the ideas the director and film are trying to get across.
With Irreversible, I cried watching the scene where Alex is assaulted because it places the audience in her position of powerlessness and shock and pain. Irreversible proves to be both a scathing condemnation of how films have pornographically depicted violence against women and gay men and in turn, how our culture sexualizes women and victim-blames them when they are subjected to cruel acts at the hands of men. Or that's how I interpreted the film personally, and why I do place it very high on my favorite films I've watched.
I can't even begin to make an entire commentary on Antichrist or this already massive comment will be even longer, there's so themes and ideas happening in it. It's almost too busy, but somehow it pulls it together into an unforgettable cinema experience, though I could have gone without the scissor scene. (Even though it also has a meaning to tie in with the plot and commentary Von Trier is presenting) One of the main questions Von Trier presents within the film is, "Is there anything more frightening than the idea that mothers may wish to commit infanticide?" That's just one of the many things happening inside that film. Its super deep and analytic almost, that I can completely understand why it is a massively polarizing film and why some people will never like it.
Salo is basically a political statement about the power struggle that was happening in Italy during the 1940s. The film explores themes of political corruption, consumerism, authoritarianism, nihilism, morality, capitalism, totalitarianism, sadism, sexuality, and fascism. Once again, another film that can be broken down and studied and interpreted in various ways.
TLDR: Basically what I'm saying is that even though these films contain various scenes of SA and graphic violence and subject matter, they aren't meaningless, to me anyways. I found strong messages and themes in all of them, being a SA victim and a gay man, they struck various nerves in me that made me appreciate them, hard to watch as they may be. I'm not advocating them in any way, since I know many people will still be triggered or upset by them and completely respect their opinions and distaste of them, I just wanted to explain their meanings to people who may read this that have no desire whatsoever to watch them. :)
very wel explained, i also liked irreversible but i have not seen the other movies on the list
i’m honestly sick of “women being tortured” movies and that being considered must watch horror
As a rape/torture survivor: THANK YOU
@@janedoh9021 exactly. That’s not a horror movie a shtick.
@@janedoh9021 Thats why I dont like Rob Zombie movies. they are sooooo rapey. its not horror its just plain terrible to me as a survivor as well.
Yes, exactly! It's been done and it's boring.
Agreed!
I'm almost fifty and have been watching horror movies my whole life, and I totally get what you mean. My own personal "line" is incessant cruelty under the pretext of horror. To me, a horror movie should be, you know... SCARY. If it's just watching abuse for 90 minutes then I'm tapping out. If that makes me soft in people's eyes then so be it.
I agree!
@@FroggyBoy3271 I watch saw movies and enjoy it because it gets dumber for me the abuse I wont subject myself to is films like human centipede , a serbian film etc
I agree.
I agree 💯
So many weaklings in Horror these days. lol
Also, The Girl Next Door is *really* not worth it for other reasons than its disturbing content. You see, Jack Ketchum heard the story of Sylvia Likens (the girl who was tortured to death by her caregiver, her kids, and their friends) and thought it would a good story for a novel. He approached Sylvia’s sister, Jenny, to ask her permission to write and publish the novel as long as he changed the names. Jenny said no because she did not want to relive the trauma of watching her sister being tortured and she didn’t want her sister to be remembered in that way. Did Mr. Ketchum respect her wishes? Nope, he went ahead and did it anyway! He also went out of his way to embellish the story to make it even more gruesome and disturbing, going as far as adding a rape scene and molestation subplot that did not happen, purely for shock value. Basically, The Girl Next Door just exploits the very real torture of a very real girl and I regret watching it after learning what I know now.
You are aware that Ellen Page played Sylvia Likens in the other movie about the incident called an "American Crime"? Anyway people should know Sylvia's story and that the monsters that did it barely served anytime for torture, now laws have changed. Jack Ketchum is a true crime novelist like Anne Rule, this isn't the only crime that he's written about, derp.
@@vantastic9367 An American Crime at least has the decency to respect Sylvia’s memory by portraying her as a person and not a punching bag and more is implied than shown. It also came out *after* Jenny’s death.
@@spiceupyourafterlife Both films came out in 2007, ya big derp.
@@vantastic9367 *elliot
@@occludedzeitgeist Ellen Page at the time of the movie.
As someone who does actually like some of these movies, I think it's so so important to respect people who won't subject themselves to certain things. At the end of the day, being a fan of horror is about enjoying it, and if you force yourself to watch things you hate you're unavoidably going to fall out of love with the genre
It's so odd that i absolutely understand where youre coming from with the "common theme", cause as woman i can't watch brutal SA/kidnap/torture movies anymore. I used to be able to watch them, but now it just gives me major anxiety. Remembering back to having watched megan is missing, the girl next door and irreversible, i just feel sick, because this shit happens in real life too.
I didn't have a big issue with this types of movies, but Megan is Missing disturbed me way too much. I do get anxious now if there's SA.
Exactlyyyy. The reason Megan is missing really messed with me was because it could so easily be real. Like stuff like that happens in real life. Maybe I’ve watched more “graphic” movies, but that one is one I’ll never want to watch again
Yes I feel the same way. As a survivor of SA I have a lot of trouble watching movies that are highly exploitative of women (especially). I do however see the appeal of the "realistic" horror movies like Megan is Missing, I think because it's so real it is that much more effective. But there is a line to it, I think it is only good if it's written well and not just played out for shock value. There are good ways and bad ways to tell stories and if a story must include SA and torture I think it should be written properly.
The Girl Next Door is loosely based off a true story. The true story is actually much worse.
i watched An American Crime (similar to the girl next door) when i was way too young…i was 9 and 11 years later it still haunts me. it’s horrifying. i’m not sure how it was only rated R but Scream was almost rated NC-17 because of a few bloody scenes.
That edgy gatekeeper is hilarious. "Look how cool I am for finding animal cruelty, sexual assault, and nauseating violence entertaining!" Was he rejected by his high school crush, so now he wants to prove that he's a tough man for liking gore or what? I always see an overlap between horror gatekeepers and incels...
Edit: gore and horror are not the same genre, but some moviemakers pretend they are. The goal of horror is to scare the audience, not to make them rush to the toilet...
Yeah they both seem to enjoy violence against women
Yes gatekeeping is wrong. But so is shaming people who are fans of extreme horror movies.
@@SaladPizzaRestaurant I'm not shaming them for liking extreme horror movies, I'm shaming them for gatekeeping and being weird about it
I've always loved gorey horror films + video games. But I can easily understand why they don't appeal to everyone. I'd imagine that most who don't enjoy gore aren't a big fan of the horror genre. At least the ones made since the 60's. Gatekeeping is annoying, though.
@@Neo_Geisha but gore isn't all there is to horror. I don't like gore at all, but I will deal with it if the movie is extremely interesting/scary. I like the psychological thrillers the most because they don't need gore to be good/fun horror movies. Also I feel like the person talking down to Sarah was referring to exploitation films and not just gore, but I could be wrong.
I want to be scared, not scarred, when I watch a horror film. I want to be creeped out, but I don’t want to be depressed and a lot of the violence against women and animals in horror films just makes me sad and angry.
Exactly. Horror is supposed to be "exciting" in a certain way....if someone is "excited" by that it's obvious they are watching these movies for different reasons....just my personal opinion
But violence against men is completely fine to you
@@IkesPimpHandmen don't usually get raped in horror movies
@@marianadamelio are you acting obtuse on purpose? Are are you actually under the impression that r**e is the only violence that exists?
The majority (over 90%) of homicide victims in movies(and in real life) are men. Why is your empathy only limited to women?
@@IkesPimpHand of course you had to make that about yourself
I can watch most disturbing, extreme movies but once you have seen it you can't unsee it. You are right your boundaries are for you. That fellow calling you a little girl is pathetic. Just keep doing your thing xxxx
as a person who can't watch certain horror movies/series because of r*pe scenes, this helped me feel less alone; thank you.
You are for sure not alone in this!! SA is even more scary and upsetting because it's something that is most likely to actually happen to someone (or happened in the past). I often can't watch these movies either way, because the response the rest of the characters have to it just upsets me even more.
@Nikia C i can definitely see where you're coming from with that, and honestly yeah in most cases it isn't even necessary to have those scenes, it's feels so...exploit-y?
SAME. I love to see a good revenge story but I can’t handle an SA scene more then 1 minuet. And I think 1 minute is plenty of time, like you show what’s going on and we get it. You don’t gotta show the entire 20 minute ordeal. I understand that some film makers are trying to show how awful and uncomfortable SA really is, but I feel like some film makers just do it because it’s gruesome.
Evil dead caught me off guard with the rapey tree scene. It was pretty triggering for me. Also warning incase you didn't know this about evil dead, the first movie
Same here!
Cool video Sarah 🤘🏼 thanks for standing up the the gatekeepers
@@jeffpray2915 what
I think people on this comments section misunderstand the concept of gatekeeping. They are NOT preventing you from watching what you want to watch. OK the comments of said gatekeeper are stupid dickish and patronising...but not gatekeeping. Its much like me saying youre not a horror fan because you like 80s horror...how on earth does that prevent someone watching an 80s horror? How exactly is a comment preventing someone having access to stuff?
Part of adult hood is knowing your limitations. I can’t watch medical torture or rape and that doesnt make me any less of a horror fan
I feel like rape just isn’t something anyone needs to show or allude to. But hey maybe I’m just not a real horror fan. Rape is horror in it’s own self without including it in any media.
@@kellymcphaul2793 exactly. Rape is something women have to fear happening to them every day, always looking over their shoulder. If you enjoy watching rape scenes you’re not a horror fan you’re a sadist
I have severe ptsd from traumatic sexual assualt by a family member when i was 14. Im 38 with 2 kids now. The family member was in a position of authority (law enforcement) and had access to and used weapons. Not only do I have emotional scars, I have physical scars. I have to google every single movie i want to watch bc i can't watch certain things. Sometimes I get really mad at myself and try to watch or push thru...and i regret it every time. I thank God for my partner. Not only is he aware of my past, he will google movies also for me, when I have nightmares he helps me tremendously ground myself. Uniforms. Cant do em. Beards can't do em. Mirrored aviator sunglasses, alcohol cant do em. If im in public and he sees any of this *POOF* hes right there. Sometimes he sees this stuff before me.
Anyway yea i can't watch anything like that and i understand how it may be part of the story but does it actually need to be seen? No.
@@meganmorgan8597 I’m so sorry you went through that but I’m glad you have such a helping and kind partner. Have a good day
@@meganmorgan8597 I feel you there on some things. While my abuse history isn't as bad, I was victimized both by a partner and by the legal system afterwards. After a very public meltdown in a movie theatre while watching Fifty Shades of Grey, I learned I need to check into basically every movie before I watch it.
Yes Sarah, promote those healthy boundaries boo!! I still remember watching The Hills Have Eyes when I was 12 or so and the severe SA scene traumatized me so much. I’m in my mid-20’s and I still refuse to rewatch that movie.
In the remake or the original ? Bc in ive never seen the original but own the remakes and don't recall there that many in them
I’m 49 and have been a huge horror fan my whole life but I’m not into gore,it’s not for me but classic thrills from horror I LOVE!✌🏼
Do you like horror from the golden age (1931-1946)?
@@erikramaekers63 I would say 1931 to say the late 60's. That way you get all the better Hammer Horror films.
Frrr I will never watch gore movies bc those types are not scary n they are lame as hell. Into more of that paranormal, psychological, supernatural type shit but seeing ppl kill each other is not interesting lmao
Same here
Could've typed this out myself! Gore just disgusts me too much.
that rant about gatekeeping was the tea though, gatekeeping in horror is the worst for sure
I don't notice it, but then again, I couldn't give a shit what anyone thinks anyway! 😂
In any cultural art form really.
Im unfairly singling you out ...explain exactly what gatekeeping is...I almost guarantee you wont be able to explain what it is and how it applies here
Antichrist (2009)
The Girl Next Door (2007)
Cannibal Holocaust (1980)
Salo 100 Days Of Sodom (1975)
Nekromantik (1987)
August Underground Mordum (2003)
Irreversible (2002)
Melancholie Der Engel (2009)
All of the movies 😊
I've watched cannibal holocaust and salo, and to me they are average films I would not consider them to be uncomfortable but that's just my twisted brain 😂
@@agstinacueva1673 SALO THAT WAS SOO GROSS
Literally seen Every August underground and mordum it's my fav, It has a fucking budget of 300 dollars and it's visually really Amazing and credible
thank you very much
Most of these I already have watched and *FOR ME* these aren't the worst thing ever. But they can be pretty harsh for some.
I am a huge gore hound, I've watched horror for the last 30 years. When I was younger I would push to watch extreme horror out just to see how far I could go and curiosity, but as I've gotten older I find I no longer have the stomach for it especially after I became a mother. Everyone is allowed boundaries it doesn't make you less of a fan. Some people don't seem to understand that tastes changes, your boundaries and what you are willing to stomach changes. My husband still watches extreme horror like Serbian movie and Salo but I couldn't watch them, though I Loved movies like Green Inferno, I also loved irreversible, but I also soured on cannibal holocaust once I learned of actual animal cruelty.
Green Inferno was actually not that bad to me, I thought for sure it would be a lot worse given what inspired it and who directed it, but it felt kinda tame all things considered.
Gender gatekeeping is present in literally EVERYTHING (e.g., certain music bands, movie film buffs, pro gaming in twitch, especially rock or metal music and like you mention, the horror genre.)
It was just some random “clown” who made a negative comment. Just block them/ignore it & keep it moving. A majority of this comment section portrays this “gatekeeping” as an actual barrier that prevents her/people from the opportunity to do ANY of these things and that’s just not true. In 1st World countries we can literally do EVERYTHING.
@@mjthedealer it doesn't stop her from watching and enjoying those movies but it is annoying to have little boys trying to quiz us on those subjects for no reason.
lol chicks are so cute :)
@@naylasworld2351 people tend to ask questions about similar interest for example if i know a friend likes a band i know i might ask them "her have you herd their first album" because 1.if they havent i could give them the name so they look it up 2.talk about what they liked or didnt liked idk why some girls always act like because you ask them questions you are tryna call them out or something also yeah gatekeeping is a thing in alot of things because old school fans get annoyed when something becomes trendy and everybody jumps on the fad band wagon and a lot of these things have grown into cultures sooo yeah its pretty annoying when someone dont know were the history or have appreciation for the roots that have grown into the culture its like saying your a huge tupac fan when you herd like 2 radio singles and bought a shirt at walmart your not a tupac fan you dont even know the majority of his work gatekeeping is a thing to sham trendy posers cuz they should be shammed also u cant cry about "sexism" because someone said little girl then use little boy as an insult thats called being a hypocrite and even if its unjustly annoying its still a first world problem.....only the ignorant and uninformed complain about gatekeeping u gotta problem with it learn a thing or 2 and prove ur stripes like the rest of us do.....girls hate it when they dont treated like royalty and call it oppression not understanding thats how most men live their entire lives... i look forward to your angry reply
@@drflatlinethakilljoy1025 ok but gender gatekeeping really is a thing. Stop missing the point.
this video should be called “traumatizing movies that I won’t subject myself to” 😓 I don’t think it’s even a matter of being scared, it’s fair to avoid extremely triggering/graphic content
so unrelated, but i LOVE your pfp 🥺. where’s it from ???
@@theaitokyo it’s shaymin, a pokemon :)
I totally agree. There should be laws to filmmaking that ban things from being portrayed in movies. It’s not necessary in the first place.
@@merbish7962 🤨
@@darriengreen5561 I don’t think we need to see people being tortured or raped. There’s literally no necessary reason to see that happen on screen in a movie. It’s disgusting.
for anyone who has a morbid fascination with these types of movies but can’t bring themselves to watch them, the channel spooky rice does really good videos summing them up and reviewing them, including a fair amount from this list. he’s also very entertaining and i really recommend his videos!
I love watching his videos! I have a morbid curiosity, but I'm also too scared to actually watch these movies
I find “watching “ these movies through him so much easier to stomach. Plus I can quell my morbid curiosity. Kinda like watching through my fingers... hands over my face. LOL
The Horror Geek is cool as well
i watch his videos too! but it’s more like listen in the background because he includes some of the footage and I can’t bear to look at it lol
Yes! It’s the only way I can stomach hearing about these types of movies.
I loathe horror movies that revel in pain.
I despise movies that exist solely for the purpose of disgusting their audience. It’s not hard to cause nausea. Good plot, good acting, good cinematography, and good writing, require talent. Those who have none just go for shock.
Overly and unnecessary gore, r4pe and torture(mostly on kids and animals) is something that i don't like and that doesn't make me less or more of a horror fan, we all have a limit.
I love your videos girl keep going♥️
Mostly on women as well :(
I am ok with gore , but I totally hate watching animal torture.
Yeah horror is my favourite genre but I generally don't like to watch shit that has graphic rape/sexual assault scenes because well... it's triggering and not fun to watch! It's a fucking downer.
I feel the same. I like horror but make it scary. We all know what fucked up is. I dont need to see fucked up it isnt scary its just gross for the sake of it and that to me isnt the essence of horror. Maybe others disagree but thats my two cents. Nothing weird about that sentiment whatsoever.
@@untastyfru what is that? I’m curious now but don’t wanna look it up 😅
You TELL THEM girl! It’s called being a normal person who knows themselves well enough to know your boundaries. It’s called having a healthy psyche.
for those of you who DO want to know more about these movies, i know SpookyRice does awesome breakdowns of super disturbing horror and thriller movies!!! nothing at all wrong with having boundaries. don't subject yourself to things that will ultimately end up hurting your psyche. :(
this is so important! don’t let anyone downplay your boundaries. i also enjoy some of those channels that do a short 10m-20m type of video summary on a movie. there’s this one channel i forgot the name but they recap scary movies using a AI voice from online lol.
I WANT to watch these movies but know I won't like it, so instead I watch SpookyRice cover them and it satisfies my curiosity :)
How in-depth does SpookyRice's breakdowns go? I'm the morbidly curious type, and I know that I can't even handle more details than "it involves SA." I am really interested in film / horror film but I know my boundaries leave little room to enjoy anything.
@@sophie427 Definitely more in depth than that- sometimes he shows things too! For me it's great bc I can take a 10 minute wrap up divorced from having to actually feel involved, lol, but he absolutely explains what happens
@@sophie427 foundflix is also a good channel! highly recommend
no animal(real) cruelty and no sexual violence. those lines i will not cross
For me re the animal cruelty it depends on whether or not it was specifically done for the movie. For example, in Apocalypse Now the buffalo sacrifice scene near the end is actual footage of a real buffalo being slaughtered. However, the crew didn't kill the animal themselves, they merely took advantage of a local sacrifice ritual and filmed it in the background. Same goes for the opening scene in Gaspar Noe's Carne, which shows a horse being slaughtered and gutted for meat. Again, it's real, but they went to a slaughterhouse to film the scene, they didn't kill the horse themselves. For me that's ok, but I draw the line at animals being killed specifically for the movie, like Cannibal Holocaust (I mean tbf I've seen Cannibal Holocaust twice because it's a legitimately great movie, but I always skip over the animal cruelty scenes).
I couldn't care less about sexual violence in a movie provided it's fictional in the same way that I couldn't care less about any other horrible act (again, provided it's fictional). But to each their own, of course (for example, I specifically don't like scenes where dogs are hurt or killed; I'll watch them if the movie is good, but I'd prefer a movie not to contain them).
There's a whole "iceberg" list of disturbing movies now, most of which you would probably want to avoid watching.
"Wendigoon" made a great video on that recently.
His video has a bit of misinformation in it. He states that a handful of the movies contain illegal content which is not true. Excluding all mentions of the illegal content his video does give very, very brief descriptions of the movies.
I preferred Mista GGs take on it, he didnt discuss every movie on there as he watches disturbing movies and gives them reviews for his channel. He just explains a basic plot of the movie and whether he might watch it for his channel or not.
@Thefemalearrow From what I've heard it's mostly fake snuff, but I'm not about to find out...
@Thefemalearrow Faces of death are legit deaths on camera so the fact that is in the middle probably the last few layers are purely snuff. I've seen a soldier get his neck sawed out in real time while hes gasping for air in one faces of death. No way its fake as it was online when I was a kid and there wasn't the kind of editing they had today.
@@andnowyourot I mean the iceberg did have Cannibal Holocaust on it and that movie did have actual animal cruelty and that's pretty illegal, not saying everything was accurate I wouldn't know personally but saying none of the movies had anything illegal in them is probably just as inaccurate. Not trying to argue just saying
With Cannibal Holocaust, it was hearing that they “de-shelled” a live turtle that had me say NOPE!
They have an animal edit. Real animal deaths are cut out. It's truly a classic and must see. Find that version.
@@JoeyCaps34 "must see". Meh I prefer my horror to not make me genuinely upset in the end. I have no time for movies that see edgy for the sake of it.
They have the full video on UA-cam, I watched it and it was extremely disturbing.
You DO understand that that happens nearly every day down there. Because the natives have to eat as well. That's called reality and it's a place we all live in.
@@kevinpeterson1398 And it has to be filmed and profited off of because? If someone doesn’t love watching real violence they don’t have to.
you are so right about the gatekeeping, let's all enjoy whatever we enjoy.
Also I've seen most of theses movies and i could've live my life without traumatizing myself
I'm fed up of wannabe "hardcore horror fans" contest, aka "duh! that wasn't even scary I yawned lol". Entertainment isn't a contest, boundaries are personal and to be taken seriously, and as long as someone enjoy horror movies, whatever subgender it is, they are horror fans. Full stop.
To this day, nothing has scared me more than that one episode of courage the cowardly dog where that guy breaks out of a mental hospital and starts cutting everyone's hair..... I wish I was kidding, I genuinely couldn't sleep and had to talk to someone abt it
Bro same, but with that “return the slab” guy ;-;
that show gave me sooo many nightmares as a kid😭 like how was it a kids show?!!?
That show freaked me out bigtime as a kid but I for some reason kept watching. I think I pretended like I was "hate watching" it because Courage always annoyed me, but really I was kind of disturbed
i hated that show growing up… it was so scary and weird for no reason! i still hate it.
For me it was the episode with the zombie director and that moon head thing from the episode about Eustace having to grow crops before the full moon?!! Creepy stuff, but awesome show.
Horror gatekeeping is so weird like... being scared can be such a personal experience and limits you put on it are so personal how on earth can you tell someone they’re doing it ‘wrong’
I saw “I spit on your grave” when I was in high school and I felt so uncomfortable and ended up getting made fun of, a 15 minute rape scene made me more aware of PTSD from films. I think some of these movies are similar to the shock videos of the early days of the internet. Its ok to not be ok with some of these.
I watched faces of death 1-4 and both banned from tv
Call me insensitive but I personally don’t see how someone could develop ptsd from a horror movie.
@@T-1000-cyberdyne you're right
I thought last house on the left was the looooongest uncomfortable assult scene ever and I saw it in theaters. You could hear a pin drop.. then I saw I spit on your grave😱😱
@@T-1000-cyberdyne personally I find the notion offensive as someone who has PTSD and walked in blind to Midsommar.
I found your rant at the beginning very reassuring. I've been hesitant to call myself a horror fan because I prefer B movies and obscure movies to the jumpscare heavy classics, so thank you for making me feel validated.
I watched almost every one of this movies, i don't recommend it. Specially Irreversible. The year that i watched it i was sexually assaulted and i got a panic attack by watching it. No, no one told me what the movie was about, it was a friend that is a horror fan like me invited me to watch movies and it was even more shocking to watch that scene cause i didnt expected. Im really scared of walking alone in those type of places cause i remember that scene everytime and I don't want that to happen again. I love horror but animal violence and rape are a big no for me, im tired of the multiple sexual assault scenes that are in this genre.
I am so sorry that this happened to you. Sending you love and healing ❤
Yes exactly!!
I hope your doing ok now :)
i absolutely hate how assault kind of gets even fantasized about in these movies, like why do we NEED to see someone sexually assaulted? I feel like if ppl need sexual assault in your horror movie to get people talking you may have issues LOL
Yeah I get you there I unfortunately watched Midsommar without realizing there was a huge graphic rape scene. As a survivor I had a full on breakdown after seeing that. Still a horror fan, but I wont touch anything with rape or torture.
I can't and refuse to watch movies containing animal abuse or torture, etc. Cannibal Holocaust keeps being suggested to me and I'm like "No. Never." We all have things we don't want to see.
Oh. Sarrah, how many dead animals have you eaten only last year ?
Watch an animal cruelty free version.
I watched, like a third of cannibal holocaust. It's not only abhorrent in its themes and content, it's just a bad movie over all. Same goes for a Serbian Film
I agree. I will say, there apparently is a cut of Cannibal Holocaust with all of the animal scenes omitted, and it's available on one blu-ray release that I know of, so if you ever were curious enough you could watch that. But I am on the same train as you, I don't want to see real animals being harmed. Idk if I will ever watch the cut version or not myself
@@luwucien I actually kinda liked it, though the animal deaths were obviously distasteful.
I've seen The Girl Next Door and it's so heartbreaking, it's not even that graphic it's just heartbreaking that it actually happened in real life, I had difficulty sleeping for a few days :(
You can both love horror and have boundaries, I enjoy a good scary movie but I would still never watch Salo or A Serbian Film, I also hate seeing unnecessary sexual violence
love how you cleared that person who made that immature comment. who gets upset over the type of horror movies people enjoy.. we have to love horror movies with extreme gore (something that crosses the lines) to be considered a true horror fan? it’s literally not that deep. we’re all just here to enjoy.
I have seen most of these films and I support your sentiments. I’m a middle aged guy and a life-long horror fan and I used to think I had to subject myself to extremes - in film, in literature, and music. I used to like the edges and the uncomfortable places. I outgrew all that. And I have a lot of stuff in my head I can’t get rid of. Don’t ever push yourself into territory you aren’t comfortable with and certainly don’t let anyone gatekeep your decision not to!
Agree! When I grew up those internet sites with real violence and accidents were super big, and so my friends subjected people to it for "fun and laughter". I still vividly remember them and wish they could have been a bit more grown up about it, because those pictures will never leave me.
@@theobscenekiwi I've seen some horrific shit online. Stuff that has fucked me up for the rest of my life. You're not weak for choosing not to watch these.
Brilliant topic for a horror channel. Personally, I can't watch anything in the "torture p0rn" genre. That stuff doesn't scare me but just makes lose all faith in humanity. There's enough in reality that makes me feel that way, I don't need to watch movies that reinforce it.
I watched movies like Hostel and the first couple Saw movies, and then Green Inferno, I decided that I didn’t like the torture films... and then ended up watching the French Marytrs because it seemed like it was a favorite on most lists and it completely fucked me up.
I want to be scared and even terrified, but I hate that those films are what it takes to push me to that limit.
I won't even watch a movie where they pretend to kill animals, I CANNOT deal with that at all, could never watch it for real! Thanks for the heads up!
Honestly, I really appreciated what you said at the beginning. I'm an extremely nervous person and still love a little bit of horror here and there. I hate when people downplay the scary movies I like because they aren't "scary enough" but what's the point of puting disgusting images in your head? For me that isn't fun, and if it isn't fun, why are you watching it?
Horror movies don't even phase me considering I grow up with them from the age of 5.
Some people find it fun to be uncomfortable. You don't have too. I recommend Super Eyepatch Wolf's video about it.
I like how uncomfortable it can make me without actually putting me in danger. I definitely prefer very a narrative driven disturbing film such as Tod Solonz Happiness. Movies like the August Underground Trilogy really do nothing for me
@Stone Dragon okay, good for you? Uh?
Honestly, "extreme horror" of this type really just feels like stuff made to give neckbeard edgelords something to be elitist about because most people won't actually sit down and watch for long enough to realize all these movies are piles of crap. You're not missing out on much by avoiding these movies.
“All these movies are a pile of crap”... and you call people who like extreme horror pretentious? Way to pass judgement on an entire subgenre and fanbase because of your own biases.
Movies like Martyrs and Cannibal Holocaust are as good as they are because their ethical/philosophical messages are bolstered by brutal, visceral, and deeply discomforting imagery and themes. “All these movies are piles of crap” Lmao I can’t tell if you’re a neckbeard edgelord yourself and just projecting, or if you don’t even believe what you’re saying and you’re simping for the cool UA-cam horror woman
Although I would like to add that the real animal cruelty in Cannibal Holocaust was unnecessary, that there’s nothing wrong with not wanting to see that, and that there are versions of the film from which those scenes were cut
@@JR-rk3hs maybe some people would rather not put themselves through hours of exploitative media. having an opinion different to your own is hardly pretentious…..
@@charlie-vn9ze are you being willfully obtuse because you don’t enjoy movies with extreme content, or do you genuinely not know the difference between “I’d rather not watch movies with extreme content” and “all movies with extreme content are piles of crap”
I’ve seen The Girl Next Door, and it’s very unsettling and tragic. The movie An American Crime is even more close to the actual case, and I’ve researched the case of Sylvia Likens, who these movies are about. What happened to her was horrific, and beyond my understanding of what people can be capable of.
i remember watching that film, i was completely unaware of the r*pe scene, i had a panic attack... i will never watch that film again. the case is so sad
Both are mild at best same with the Serbian film
@@briantalbot7929 who tf was asking u
I've seen an American Crime and I don't remember it being graphic as much as .... depressing. Idk if I just removed chunks of memory from my mind or what
@@briantalbot7929 it's almost like personal experiences someone has gone through can make it more difficult to watch it or something. crazy concept, i know.
A grown man calling a grown woman “little girl” is one of the most cringeworthy things they can say.
I watched Megan is missing when I was VERY young, way too young. It didn’t bother me at that time but now whenever I see a photo from THE scene it takes me hours to get the image out of my head and collect myself. I can’t watch SA/kidnapping/etc movies because of it, it hits a little too close to home knowing these things actually happen everyday. I’m purely a fantasy horror fan because I know there isn’t actually a dream demon coming to unalive me.
You got a point honestly I love horror movies but that one was just to disturbing for me honestly :(
that photo was an excellent shock in a movie thats largely not that good
Will never watch this movie
The entire last 30 minutes of that movie were brutal
@@bigthreeproductions7460 Megan missing wasn't that bad. All the other movies were much worse.
I’m sensitive and I’m a horror fan. I like paranormal and fun horror. Or thrillers. Nothing with kids. I pretty much agree with your whole video. I don’t want to be upset.
same here I'm not sensitive but anything involving hurting kids has me out the door
@@apersonwhoexists888 how do you feel about young Tommy Jarvis in f13
I’m a horror fan and I wish I was sensitive, it’s part of the fun 😐
And animals too mostly
Serbian Film is definitely something I will NEVER watch.
I watched it, and was thoroughly disgusted. I never thought I had a line with horror. That was my line in the sand.
I've watched it once and probably won't watch it again.
its horrible in every way.
I have seen it few times. There are few scenes I hate(anyone who has seen the movie knows what I'm talking about) but overall it not as bad as everyone says.
If you watch behind the scenes footage, it makes the movie not nearly as bad as it seems.
This is really refreshing to see. Sometimes I tried to “enjoy” movies that weren’t my thing even though I knew they wouldn’t be before I even watched it just for the sake of the Horror Fan title. Thank you for your awesome perspective on this!
I'd really recommend getting a friend to watch Antichrist and write down timestamps to fast-forward through. Or even edit them out. There aren't that many shocking gross scenes, just a couple graphic ones that you can miss and still appreciate the film. It's such a gorgeous, profound film, especially for anybody who's suffered from depression. Brought me to tears towards the end.
Such a painful meditation on grief and human/gender dynamics. Definitely one that has stuck with me since watching. Really disturbing and thought provoking. The cinematography and acting are amazing as well.
Yeah one scene specifically.....lol
Can anyone give me a spoiler and at least tell me if the most shocking scene is rape??? Please. I really want to watch it but I hate rape scenes (understandably).
@@ratfishking Check out the IMDb content guide for the film if you’re still not sure, but Willem Dafoe’s character has his penis mutilated and then stimulated, all while he’s unconscious.
"Chaos reigns...!!!!"
Love you talking about having boundaries as a viewer. Wish I was conscious of that when I was 13 and just getting into horror.
That is the most important trivia ever. If Snoop said no, it is a pass.
I saw Nekromantik on the night that the Toronto Blue Jays won the World Series in 1992 or 1993. We suffered through this grim and disgusting film and then emerged into a wild party of positivity and cheering with people driving around hollering and horn blaring. It was quite the emotional roller coaster.
this honestly reminded me that there is a line between being disturbed and being disturbed to the point you are no longer entertained. I tend to forget that a lot and push myself into watching movies that I shouldn't. I made myself watch Megan Is Missing because so many horror fans were telling me I needed to. I hated that movie, I watched it like five years ago now and I can still remember the entire last part of the movie with excruciating detail, I'll remember parts of it out of nowhere and be on edge for hours. I knew going into it I shouldn't watch the movie but I did because "being uncomfortable is the point of the genre". It isn't, not when it isn't fun anymore
Girl Next Door is so traumatizing. I was so sorry for the girl / Sylvie Lykens
@Goku Eneru i was just sorry it really happened, cried, couldnt stand it, wished i could help this girl, so felt traumatized
I couldn’t even get through the Wikipedia article about her murder, I know I would never be able to stomach a film version. I hope Sylvie is at peace now
@@myettechase such things/events make you so helpless, why nobody cared:(
I listen to a lot of true crime podcasts so I know about the original case and knowing someone thought that was worth making a movie out of disgusts me.. It's horrifically sad.
@@eev14 exactly, unimaginable horror
This girl is a legend.
Please check out Spookyastronauts as well! They’re both amazing
63 year old male, here. I have been a horror fan since childhood, watching the original Frankenstein on late night television. You like what you like. Your boundaries are your own. Gatekeeping is horse manure.
As someone who was non-consensually shown explicit horror films as a child, thank you for this. There IS a line. And I got shoved over it and it fucked me up. You aren't vanilla. You are sane.
I'm so sorry that happened to you. I'm a horror fan but I would never force a kid or even allow them to watch certain movies. Some things really stick with you as a kid and it can be much more upsetting than seeing those things as an adult.
Same happened to me...
Well just because you like super fucked up movies doesn’t mean you aren’t sane
I watched the original stephen king pet semetary when i was 5 or 6 and i legit legit could not sleep for 2 days. I felt like the little boy who cut the guys achilles heel was going to come out from under my bed and murder me. You are not alone lol but no regrets love my parents they let me and my sister watch whatever lol but our generation (assuming you are a millenial) our parents just let us watch whatever even at a young age.
I was forced to watch awful stuff as well. My dad would say I'd be okay. I had to legit have a full trama meltdown before my mom would grow a backbone and make my dad let me leave.
Boundaries is so healthy, especially when it comes to leisure and hobby time which should be completely about unpressured personal choice. Thank you for speaking about people demanding we are “horror-fan-enough” for them- everything seems to turn into a competition!
There is a French film I do not remember the name of[Last Tango In Paris], but it has a rape scene. Which the actress did not know what was going to happen. She was totally unaware it was going to happen, and the male actor fake had sex with her. He totally planned it and her freaking out was acting. The director wanted her actual reaction. It looks and feels super real because it is. SO GROSS. "what was going on, because I wanted her reaction as a girl, not as an actress." - The Director.
That is horrible. He better have been dragged over the coals for that. Consent is a must in film making. This is basic stuff.
thats sickening
@Tim C if you consider accepting sexual assault is "growing up" then I think you have some serious problems buddy.
@Tim C huh, YOU grow up
heavy on it plus wasn't the actress like underage or barely of age?
I remember trying to watch The Shining (Kubrick's) and having that feeling of yield and deep evil coming from that hotel. The first time I stopped watching it, I turned off my computer and I left the room (it was dark)... The second time I watched the whole thing, and I loved it... a pure classic!!!
"You can be squeamish and anxious and still be a horror fan." Thank you!
I love the horror genre. I love the political undertones, I think that the making of them is very interesting, I enjoy the art of acting and the art of making something scary believable. I enjoy the work that goes into the deaths and injuries.
I *can't* actually watch most horror movies because they trigger my anxiety really really bad. Like full-blown panic attacks, sick to my stomach kind of bad. So I have to watch reviews from people and kill counts from Dead Meat to be able to "watch" horror movies.
Anyway, your response to that comment was just really validating for me so thank you.
Don't apologize for having your own opinions and preferences. That's why we watch you, just to see what they are 🙂
girl i am just like you. for example the movie eden lake - i know it’s supposed to be great but also utterly upsetting and depressing. no thank you. no shame in protecting yourself from bad feels
Just watched that last night and it honestly disturbed me. Like it bothered me really bad
lila l-I agree with you, just because someone enjoys horror doesn't mean they're going to enjoy every kind of horror movie that gets made, we all have our limits. And you're right about Eden Lake, I saw that movie years ago, & i remember it being an incredibly difficult movie to watch. I love horror, but Eden Lake is one horror movie I wont be rewatching, the ending seriously messed me up.
@@kirstyfairly4371 agreed I wont be rewatching it either
the whole movie just left me with such a feeling of hopelessness
Yes! I love Eden Lake but I’ve seen it twice and I’ll literally never watch it again. It makes me feel sick even thinking about it.
Thank you for this. I’m so passionate about horror movies, but i know my boundaries. I absolutely cannot watch rape scenes without bawling my eyes out or going into a panic attack. I want to enjoy the movie not fuck up my mental health.
I LOVED Martyrs but I balled for hours after and couldn’t think straight for days because of it. THAT I’ll never watch again but you don’t know until you sit down and watch it. I guess that’s how I look at it.
That movie traumatised me for months.. The flayed scene is really disturbing.. I wish i can delete that movie from my memory
Thats still one of the only horror movies that sat with me for several days after watching. It just freaked me out in a way I didn't expect
I LOVE Martyrs. It's one of my favorite movies of all time. But, oh boy, I'm NEVER watching it again. 1- because I don't want to ruin the first watching experience and 2- damn it traumatized me hahaha. It sent me back to my depressive thoughts thinking about the meaninglessness of life and all that. This type of movie is actually very dangerous, I mean, it COULD lead someone closer to suicide if they're already suicidal. It's too real. Anyway, I hate gatekeepers in this community (or in general), they have a complete disregard to other people's mental wellbeing.
I haven't seen that in forever I remember having a feeling about it but do not remember it in a whole. I may need to watch it again. O.o
For me, I wasn't that scared after but it disturbed me and this movie and the whole story were on my mind for days
When Cannibal Holocaust is called “one of the more tame ones” xD
It's way over hyped in my opinion.
@@vantastic9367 I agree. I just do not vibe AT ALL with the animal cruelty
I love the film, animal violence was unnecessary but I think it's told well and works well with the whole 'who really is the bad guy' idea
For me it isn't how "gross" it is...it's a bleak and really vicious flick. It doesn't feel cheesy like other exploitation flicks. The animal free version is the way to go and Deodato says that's his preferred cut.
really ? consider that movie is in 80s are there worse before that ?
My sister and I are huge horror fans since childhood, but as you said, there are certain boundaries we don't cross. She cannot see any r4p3 scenes nor wrist slashing/cutting, it triggers her so bad. In my case, i can't bear to watch any graphic torture/death of children, even a child crying in movies stresses me so much. Anything else I can watch easily.
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Im the same with self harm. I have zero problem with the most depraved bloody, gorey scene but I can't watch self harm. It like pokes that sleeping demon in me and I don't like it at all.
@@JamieMarzy I can only imagine :S it must be awful
I cannot watch or tolerate seeing sexual or violent abuse to men, women, or children in movies and any form of animal cruelty or abuse. These are my cut offs in a film. If I see it I have to turn it off.
There’s nothing wrong with having boundaries with films. I feel like the exploitation/disturbing film genre is purely for shock value rather than actual enjoyment. Each to their own though I guess.
I myself can’t watch films involving s*xsual violence, eye trauma or babies/pregnancy. Extra avoiding films with all 3.
Your rant at the beginning resonated with me deeply and made me feel welcome here. I don't know what it's like to be a horror fan and a woman, but I know what it's like to be a horror fan and a sensitive, anxious, ptsd-trigger-warning-needing person.
As a woman, its so nice to see so many men in the comment section backing up this sentiment, and making women feel welcome. Im also someone who's sensitive in a particular way, i have a pretty intense blood phobia, and body horror is one of my favorite genres. So i still subject myself to it in ways i know i can handle, but there are just some movies i will not touch because i dont want to literally PASS OUT just to be 'hardcore enough'.
Never really a fan of the “Cannibal“ movies because of the not so subtle racism behind them, but yeah the animal death is definitely a line.
Honestly. Oftentimes i find myself routing for the cannibals for killing the racists, who also frequently have big colonizer vibes.
I'm usually extremely and deeply bothered by movies regarding cannibalism to the point I can't eat any kind of meat for a bit, but the racism also not a very nice aspect of the films either (granted most of the movies I've seen in passing on the topic had white people as the cannibals, but then again I avoid most of the movies that blatantly tried to get a piece of the controversial success pie that Cannibal Holocaust started). And also the animal cruelty. I've seen a few movies with real animal cruelty on camera and it made them go from just laughably bad to legit horrible.
i just found your channel! as a horror lover who's a woman, i have watched countless horror movies with so much unnecessary sexual violence towards women that gives nothing to the story. i hate that these are male writers, producers, and directors making these films too. i feel like such a big part of the horror genre is men making women even smaller than they are in reality. where as i can see it is horror because that is in fact scary to me as a woman, i don't need scares like that when i am constantly scared that those things are actually going to happen to me and these male directors and writers have no clue how real that fear is to just play with and put on film.
i hate it too. i roll my eyes whenever it starts to happen in a movie. used to repulse me but now i just dont care. i just think its hilarious and pathetic how much they rely on it for cheap scares.
i also feel like it says something about the writer and director. probably one of their sick fantasies.
“Little girl” Ugh. I want you to know that you made it okay for me to be a horror fan. I’d always loved the genre, but your videos were my gateway into the fandom. Horror is still seen as something with a largely male fan base, where women need to prove that they’re “real fans.” The gatekeeping happens all the time but you make it easier for women to hold space in the horror community! ❤️
I really think theres more horror movie fans who are women than people think. Its just not something thats considered feminine enough to admit too.
i never knew there was a movie based on the sylvia likens case. i will never get over what they did to that poor girl.
Two films and a sequence in Deadly Women:(
Sylvia Likens was a case I will never forget.
I’m with you! I’ve never watched and will NEVER watch Cannibal holocaust due to the animal cruelty.
It isn’t scary though
I don’t like animal cruelty but I saw the movie
It bored me
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The problem isn't whether or not that it's scary. I promise you that if you took out all the animal scenes, most people wouldn't remember it too well.
The problem is the animal cruelty itself, it's unnecessarily fucked up.
Same
Also avoid a movie called "The Tree of the Wooden Clogs" (1978). A live pig is butchered, and it's horrible to watch.
This channel has become my postpartum comfort channel 😭😭 I was even binging videos an hour before I went into labour 🤣🙌
I hope you and baby are both happy and healthy now!
Man, it's so weird that this guy really had the nerve to say that stuff after you've literally sat through some really disturbing films. The point you made about not having to like every aspect of the genre is really good, keep watching what you love :)
Poor baby ginger.
As a horror fan who tests my own limits, I don't blame you. Some of the movies I've seen are very difficult to shake off. Sometimes those limits in our minds are for good reason. Never let some numpty tell you how horror works 🖤
Agreed. I test my limits too but I totally get why people don’t want to see those types of movies and it for sure does not make them less of a horror fan!
Edgelords that gatekeep horror are the worst and they're the reason a lot of people are turned of by it. They're the type of people that show a scary movie to someone who doesn't want to watch it and makes them not like the genre for years afterwards. Let people watch whatever they enjoy.
Movies like these don't scare, they just make me angry.