First putting video I’ve seen giving a clear explanation of toe hang v face balanced. Also acknowledges need to get a sound technique before fitting. I’m sure like many high handicappers Im guilty of changing my putting technique depending on the putter in my hand. I have a classic Scotty Cameron Studio Design No 1. It looks fantastic but it’s not helping me at all. Very helpful video.
Great video Chris. According to the PING app I have a strong arc stroke about 8°. For the past 20 years or so I’ve always used a toe hang putter BUT last year I went to a Lie Angle Balanced putter LAB DF 2.1 and sold my TM Spider EX and my 4 year old Evnroll ER2 This LAB Putter is amazing. ZERO TORQUE, no manipulation to keep the head square at impact. Even with my arc type stroke this putter doesn’t fight me. So natural and smooth. Yea it looks like BRANDING IRON but I got over the looks VERY FAST!! never putted better in my life and I’ve been playing nearly 30 years!!
Great video Chris. This reminds me of when I got fitted for my putter, where I was fitted into a 20 degree toe hang putter, because I needed help keeping the face open just a touch as I naturally shut the putter face during my swing. I have to say the putter fitting helped my game more than any other fitting. Sadly I can’t blame my putter for misses anymore though…. Its all down to me
I was fitted to a toe hang putter. And after experimenting for a while with different putters I agree with that fitting. I can tell that on my practice green the face balanced putter has a tendency to ever so slightly pull the ball, small amount, but it's there. I use a slight toe hang now just to help the blade stay open that fraction longer and it is making a difference.
I don’t understand how anyone would think that a “toe-hang” putter would help with a miss to the right. That’s an interesting “myth” that I had never heard about. At some point I would love to hear your thoughts on L.A.B. putters. I had a “toe-hang” type putter and putted decently, but with the L.A.B. my putting is at a much different level.
This Nonsense is due to the misunderstanding of Toe Flow. *The mistake is thinking TF/H helps the Face to Close.* The Truth is TF/H CLOSES on the Takeaway and OPENS on the Forward Stroke.
Putter length really important too. After a recent fitting it was clear my old putter had been at least an inch too long. Yet it had stayed in the bag for 20 years. Ridiculous. Also important is the feel off the face. You have to like the sensation. Feel.
Direction is important...but, pace is to me more important. I want to give all putts a chance at going in but you have to be able to count on no MORE than 2 putts. This is where pace is so important. I bought a NEW Ping Zing 2 this season. A fun classic putter for sure, love the feel. I had the best putting season in I don't know how long.
I went with the Squareback Special Select SC. Fitted my eyes better than the smaller blade. Great feedback from heel and toe strikes. The center face feels like putting, the way Colin Montgomerie says, THROUGH the ball as if it's not there.
Great video. So tried of hearing people say you just be fitted. No you need a consistent stroke so the fitting actually gives you something that the fitter can use. It's the same for all clubs. A couple of lesson and time spent practising what the pro have told you to do will make a world of difference that just a fitting and 300-600£ spent in a club can never do.
I had the putting yips for over a few months and was still consistently in the mid to low 70s. I pushed the ball every putt and was told to get a toe hang putter and it made it even worse. I tried my brothers face balanced spider and shot a career low 64 because I hit my line every time. I will be on the lookout for any face balanced putters now that I like the look of.
Great video Chris!! I have a collection of putters...everything from an 8802, an anser, a see more, and several others. I would like to hear your thoughts on center shafted putters. I think they work very well for many players. Thanks again for the great content about putting!
Great video Chris. So good that your telling it how it is. Great content. so far, all your videos have been helpful and given great insight when looking into my technique and new toys.
Putting is probably the best part of my game. I remember swapping around putters a good bit back in the early 2000s. But I've been using the same Odessey 2-ball blade for over 15 years now, and doubt i'll ever change. Guess it's sort of a hybrid between a blade and a mallet.
Chris have you any opinions on the best way to grip the putter ? I know that there are infinite methods around but which do you use and recommend? Thanks 👍 😊
This is what I learned, which seems to be relatively accurate: A toe balanced / toe hang putter closes the face more slowly, which helps those who pull the ball / miss left. A face balance will help those who push ball / miss right.
I had a triple track ten but was pulling everything. I was lucky to play a round with a course pro who watched my stroke and he recommended something with alot of toe hang. I got a great deal on a Cameron Del Mar, and my putting has improved ten fold in practice. When I finally get out for a round, I'm sure I'll cut 3 or 4 strokes. Is it all in my head?
Not Really. All other things being equal (Aim, Stroke, Starting the Ball ON Line) a Face Balanced Putter Takes you towards a PULL side Miss. As Toe Flow/Hang starts to Increase the Ball starts moving toward s the PUSH Side. The SC Del Mar Models have always been among the Stronger TF/H choices.
Brilliant video which confirms my suspicions. Does it work the other way round as well? ie If i have a tiny arc can I use a toe hang putter? I quit fancy the Ping Oslo because the strong line helps my aim but Ping says it is for strong arc! Should i ignore them??
Hey, Chris. I've been using a pistol grip for left hand low on a ping blade and an oversize dri tek for right hand low on OG odyssey 2-ball, with 2 finger overlap. Seems to dampen wrists. Can't miss from 12'
Thanks Chris for another insightful video. Could you comment on forward pressing in putting. I did it today during a round and it seemed to turn on my putting stroke !! Am I onto something ?
Thank you Chris, for this informational video. I truly believe lessons are important. I did have a question for you. Have you ever tried an Axis 1, putter or any of these no tork putters and What do you think? If you haven't, I really enjoy seeing you review one or more. Thanks again, and keep up the great work, Cheers.
An Anser style putter isn't a blade anyway, there are very few true blade putters sold these days and the name has been adopted to describe Anser style putters. In a similar way, flanged blade putters now tend to be called Napa style, just because Cameron called his version by that name....
Please stop referencing to James Robinson. I find him childish and annoying. He waffles along with largely useless content after his clickbait titles. In my opinion you devalue your content by engaging with his antics so frequently. Short game is obviously the most important area to lower players scores and you have a lot of good information that can help people.
Thanks for the offering. I've a 25+ yr old Scotty Newport, 30 +yr old anser 2, a zebra and a Bullseye from my high school days.
The Scotty is my gamer
First putting video I’ve seen giving a clear explanation of toe hang v face balanced. Also acknowledges need to get a sound technique before fitting. I’m sure like many high handicappers Im guilty of changing my putting technique depending on the putter in my hand. I have a classic Scotty Cameron Studio Design No 1. It looks fantastic but it’s not helping me at all. Very helpful video.
Best video I have seen explaing the differences. I had a putter fitting with Chris 6 weeks ago. Fantastic experience and really happy with my choice.
Great video Chris. According to the PING app I have a strong arc stroke about 8°. For the past 20 years or so I’ve always used a toe hang putter BUT last year I went to a Lie Angle Balanced putter LAB DF 2.1 and sold my TM Spider EX and my 4 year old Evnroll ER2
This LAB Putter is amazing. ZERO TORQUE, no manipulation to keep the head square at impact. Even with my arc type stroke this putter doesn’t fight me. So natural and smooth. Yea it looks like BRANDING IRON but I got over the looks VERY FAST!! never putted better in my life and I’ve been playing nearly 30 years!!
Great video Chris. This reminds me of when I got fitted for my putter, where I was fitted into a 20 degree toe hang putter, because I needed help keeping the face open just a touch as I naturally shut the putter face during my swing.
I have to say the putter fitting helped my game more than any other fitting. Sadly I can’t blame my putter for misses anymore though…. Its all down to me
I was fitted to a toe hang putter. And after experimenting for a while with different putters I agree with that fitting. I can tell that on my practice green the face balanced putter has a tendency to ever so slightly pull the ball, small amount, but it's there. I use a slight toe hang now just to help the blade stay open that fraction longer and it is making a difference.
I don’t understand how anyone would think that a “toe-hang” putter would help with a miss to the right. That’s an interesting “myth” that I had never heard about. At some point I would love to hear your thoughts on L.A.B. putters. I had a “toe-hang” type putter and putted decently, but with the L.A.B. my putting is at a much different level.
This Nonsense is due to the misunderstanding of Toe Flow.
*The mistake is thinking TF/H helps the Face to Close.*
The Truth is TF/H CLOSES on the Takeaway and OPENS on the Forward Stroke.
Putter length really important too. After a recent fitting it was clear my old putter had been at least an inch too long. Yet it had stayed in the bag for 20 years. Ridiculous. Also important is the feel off the face. You have to like the sensation. Feel.
Great advice Chris. I’ll be coming to see you when the weather is better! Good stuff!
Direction is important...but, pace is to me more important. I want to give all putts a chance at going in but you have to be able to count on no MORE than 2 putts. This is where pace is so important. I bought a NEW Ping Zing 2 this season. A fun classic putter for sure, love the feel. I had the best putting season in I don't know how long.
Without a doubt
Why would I ever pay for a lesson with your great free videos….👍✌️
Great video Chris 👍. Very educational.
Well said Chris. 👍
I went with the Squareback Special Select SC. Fitted my eyes better than the smaller blade. Great feedback from heel and toe strikes. The center face feels like putting, the way Colin Montgomerie says, THROUGH the ball as if it's not there.
Those are sweet putters.
Putting seems to be my nemesis! Tee to green usually in reg but then it can be anything from the good, bad or ugly.
Great video.
So tried of hearing people say you just be fitted.
No you need a consistent stroke so the fitting actually gives you something that the fitter can use.
It's the same for all clubs.
A couple of lesson and time spent practising what the pro have told you to do will make a world of difference that just a fitting and 300-600£ spent in a club can never do.
Started with a dodgy Hippo mallet putter, but moved to a Maxfli Aim TS. Have gone from 4-5 putting to 2-3 putting. Not bad for a freebie.
I had the putting yips for over a few months and was still consistently in the mid to low 70s. I pushed the ball every putt and was told to get a toe hang putter and it made it even worse. I tried my brothers face balanced spider and shot a career low 64 because I hit my line every time. I will be on the lookout for any face balanced putters now that I like the look of.
Great video Chris, could you do something similar regarding wedges, set wedge vs cavity back wedge vs speciality wedge and some tips on how to decide?
Well done Chris 👏
Very interesting, what do you suggest about putter length as that is a big part like toe hang or face balance?
Great video Chris!! I have a collection of putters...everything from an 8802, an anser, a see more, and several others. I would like to hear your thoughts on center shafted putters. I think they work very well for many players. Thanks again for the great content about putting!
Great video Chris.
So good that your telling it how it is. Great content. so far, all your videos have been helpful and given great insight when looking into my technique and new toys.
Putting is probably the best part of my game. I remember swapping around putters a good bit back in the early 2000s. But I've been using the same Odessey 2-ball blade for over 15 years now, and doubt i'll ever change. Guess it's sort of a hybrid between a blade and a mallet.
Chris have you any opinions on the best way to grip the putter ? I know that there are infinite methods around but which do you use and recommend? Thanks 👍 😊
This is what I learned, which seems to be relatively accurate:
A toe balanced / toe hang putter closes the face more slowly, which helps those who pull the ball / miss left. A face balance will help those who push ball / miss right.
Thanks Chris, insightful and good to challenge misconceptions. Wondering what's your thoughts on armlock/wristlock putters.
If you were to recommend one putting training aid, what would it be?
I could really do with a putter fitting Chris where are you based and what equipment do you use for fittings
Would 1 deg toe up at impact make the face closed at impact
Good stuff Chris.
Thanks Chris
I had a triple track ten but was pulling everything. I was lucky to play a round with a course pro who watched my stroke and he recommended something with alot of toe hang. I got a great deal on a Cameron Del Mar, and my putting has improved ten fold in practice. When I finally get out for a round, I'm sure I'll cut 3 or 4 strokes. Is it all in my head?
Not Really. All other things being equal (Aim, Stroke, Starting the Ball ON Line) a Face Balanced Putter Takes you towards a PULL side Miss. As Toe Flow/Hang starts to Increase the Ball starts moving toward s the PUSH Side.
The SC Del Mar Models have always been among the Stronger TF/H choices.
Brilliant video which confirms my suspicions. Does it work the other way round as well? ie If i have a tiny arc can I use a toe hang putter? I quit fancy the Ping Oslo because the strong line helps my aim but Ping says it is for strong arc! Should i ignore them??
What do you think of center shaft putters? You’re exactly right about a blade putter’s toe hang pushing the putt right.
I find the blade is much easier than a mallet, feeling is everything.
Hey, Chris. I've been using a pistol grip for left hand low on a ping blade and an oversize dri tek for right hand low on OG odyssey 2-ball, with 2 finger overlap. Seems to dampen wrists. Can't miss from 12'
Thanks Chris for another insightful video. Could you comment on forward pressing in putting. I did it today during a round and it seemed to turn on my putting stroke !! Am I onto something ?
You need a fair amount of loft on your putter if you FP, but I’m all for some kind of trigger vs starting stationary
Thank you Chris, for this informational video. I truly believe lessons are important.
I did have a question for you. Have you ever tried an Axis 1, putter or any of these no tork putters and What do you think? If you haven't, I really enjoy seeing you review one or more. Thanks again, and keep up the great work, Cheers.
Major club manufacturer that gets this wrong.
Lost me when he said answer is a blade , it’s a cavity putter , list of blades as follows , bullseye , Wilson 8802 , ram 300 ,
I find that if I've picked the right line and hit it with the right amount of speed to get it to the hole it goes in every time.
Toe Hang? LAB? I still use an 8802.
I think the term “toe flow“ is what created this myth, toe hang is not actually flowing more it’s working against rotation “flow”
I’m using SC mallet putter…so far so good 😊
An Anser style putter isn't a blade anyway, there are very few true blade putters sold these days and the name has been adopted to describe Anser style putters.
In a similar way, flanged blade putters now tend to be called Napa style, just because Cameron called his version by that name....
Horses for courses
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Please stop referencing to James Robinson. I find him childish and annoying. He waffles along with largely useless content after his clickbait titles. In my opinion you devalue your content by engaging with his antics so frequently. Short game is obviously the most important area to lower players scores and you have a lot of good information that can help people.
Why so serious Chris ? Lighten up and chill out Bro
It’s not a comedy show