9Velo $1100 Rapid | Well Made | DT Swiss Style Ratchet System
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- Опубліковано 14 кві 2023
- Normally I get my fair share of junk and things that come through the door. But this isn't it. These are very good wheels and competitively priced. The hubs are well-engineered. We are at a point now where the only thing missing from far eastern wheels is the marketing.
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"Let's say you were a snob and went to get an ENVE wheel".... Followed by LEGO Man head. Just brilliant.... :)
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"Engineering Feedback" Wow, never would have thought a brand would do that. But it is very sharp of them! Glad to see other manufacturers are catching up with the WAY OVERPRICED big manufacturers. Well done my friend! Still loving my Hambini BB in my 22' Allez Sprint Disc buttery smooth. Cheers and keep banging your hairdresser!
5:17 KILLED ME LMAO
👍I’ve been enjoying seeing all these products from companies I haven’t heard of.
You actually made me crack up with your scream at 5:19! Nice analysis as always!
Glad to hear about 15267's being sorted out --- I've opted for DT Swiss 350 hubs over 240s just because they use normal bearings and can source top tier OEM replacements.
It's also centrally located mass, so the weight savings are irrelevant imo
All six bearings for the disc brake version use the same size: 6902. Big bearings and only one size to deal with.
I use adjustable zip ties to put difficult tyres on, it helps to push the tyre down and give you some give. Put the zip adjustable bit / feed against the rim, easier to undo.
Keep showing good products, putting pressure on bigger more expensive brands!
I wish more companies did a cheap carbon wheel for fix gear bikes.
I never remember to turn my sound down before he does my favorite intro of all UA-camrs.
“Hooked rims every time”
Preach it 👌🏼🙌🏼
Nooo you don't get it bro. Please bro they are stiffer, more aero, and more durable. It has nothing to do with the fact that they are easier to manufacture.
@@sutherlandrb32 😂😂👌🏼
Great review. I'd suggest you get yourself a set of Schwalbe tire levers. They hook to hook on the rim and work great particularly on tubeless tires.
5:18 mark - Hahahahahaah this is the only part of the video I came here for 🤣
Great looking set of wheels there. Amazing the quality of these “non branded” Chinese wheels 👌🏻
Just love your channel, keeping it real..
Lovely video i enjoy to see the video big thanks hambini. ❤
flippin heck...forgot to turn the volume down, iwill be back in a minute after i've stitched my eardrums back together!! Hoorah! a Saturday Hambini post :)
Would be good to see the hyper 2023 on that chart!
If you had to pick between 9Velo and the new Winspace Hyper, which would you choose?
Should I be greasing up the labyrinth seals with a thin layer of grease or is that a bad idea?
Comparing CD35 and LV45. The LV's are only 60g heavier but more aero; also come with metal spokes and 3-pawl hub system...and they are $370 cheaper. Which would you get? Is carbon appropriate for spokes? Is the PG ratchet hub that much better than pawl system? Thanks.
With your voice cracking during the intro, I felt that Peak Torque finally granted you puberty! Obviously, only the hairdresser would know how well the pen is working.
5:20 Hello voice crack had me laughing my ass off
Hello Hambini,
Have you tested the rim brake version any thoughts on their quality?
So my 2017 Mavic wheels with the sharp edge are coming back into fashion. I thought everything had to be blunted to be fast
I keep seeing notes about Hunt wheels. I'm interested in the Hunt 40 carbon road. Budget end of course. Any views?
I laughed so hard at the voice cracked hello at the power point.
Ive got the Winspace D67 running on Specialized cotton Turbo tyres all i can say is is that they go like a bomb after 20 mph and my mates think there is a car behind us when i am on the back of the bunch!!! They sound awesome and are light being rim brake too.........You would have to be a mug to buy Zipp Roval Metron as these eastern wheels are well made and so much cheaper!
I wouldn't get on Zipps. I have a set in for a failure investigation.
@@Hambini I have had 2 sets of 404 both later types design BOTH had rear bearing failure!
@@davemellor4697 yikes, wait till you see the 454's that have come in. absolute shite.
Can't wait to see your failure analysis of the 454s. I'd like to hear your take on the magnetic driver bits. Seems sorta cool but I'm very skeptical due to shop experience. I'll never waste money on Zipp's crap. We see Zipp wheels come into our shop for service, various issues and warranties alarmingly often. Which isn't very surprising at all for a SCAM brand. Zipp also recommends overhauling their hubs at very short service intervals.
I can vouch for this assessment. The D67’s are magically quick. I’m running GP5000 S 25’s and man do they go.
Looks like the Mavic id360 hub internals on the enve wheels
Jelly Broombin!
How do you measure out of balance?
What do you think of the farsport quadspoke wheel? $504 imported to UK for the top end version
Where would Enve Foundation fit on the performance vs Cost chart?
There's a decent choice of Chinese wheels in the same price point. Im really pleased to see how they all stack up against each other. Are you testing the LB falcon pro's and which ones?
465. Well be available on patreon in a few days
I have two LB falcon pro wheel sets and really like them. I will be interesting to see your review.
Are you gong to test and review the elite drive 50D wheelset? Really interested in buying a pair
Nice review. Only thing i don't like are the screaming decals. Can you make a video of how you do the aero testing? Love to see some real life footage.
I wrote the company and they'll ship you a set without stickers of you want them that way.
I don't understand the tire mounting struggle with bicycle tires. Just rub a little soapy water around the bead and they will slide right on. This is how motorcycle and car tires are mounted.
Maybe make them fit a 180/50 17 and then see how they feel about bicycle tyres ?
That’s nothing. Try a 40 series runflat.
What kind of wheels would u recommend for riding 10,000 miles a year?
Great review, thanks! I'm not a fan of hookless wheels either...
Where do you think the LV35 and 45s would lie?
The nr. 1 question is: do they have a dealer in Europe? In case of problems I wouldn’t want to ship them in China and wait 1 month or more to get them back.
Thanks for the video Hambini🤗
Haven't found one and no ioss handling of taxes 😢
Imagine 9Velo on a Velobuild
Great review! I got the Cd35 wheelset as I am a lighter rider and I like the wheels being lighter. Cd35 wheels are 1305g with tubeless tapes and valves. My new Aeroad feels much lighter and responsive now. I am already loving these wheels.
I was riding DT Swiss PRC 65mm in the back and 50mm on the front, that came with the bike. They are nice wheels but I felt it was too heavy for me. These wheels feel so much punchier than the DT Swiss wheels for me. Hope they last longer.
I got a c35 wheelset too. I wonder how to dissambly , i cannot realease this "pipes as hambini does it just by hand.
@@heinblod8720 Do you mean the rear freehub? If you remove the cassette, then remove the end-cap of the other side, you can pull the freehub body without an issue. It is pretty similar to a DT hub.
So Lun Hypers or these come out on top ?
@hambini …I guess you are referring to Mr. G.V. from Open Cycles (& formerly Cervelo) 😎😉 just asking for a friend of course. Cheers
I had this video offscreen until the jumpscare at 5:18
Curious to know how these go against the Winspace D67
D67's are on test.
What kind of nipples? Brass or aluminum? Were they bare to the carbon wheel or a steel washer under the nipple?
pretty sure mavic used ratched rings before dt and other hubs like extrlight hyper use ratchetrings too
Hi Hambini!
I see a lot of talk about wheel weight and lighter wheels being easier to spin up. But doing some basic mechanical calculations, I found that in order to accelerate from 0 to 40 kph, I'd need 4.94 kJ with 1 kg wheels, and 5.06 kJ with 1.5 kg wheels. That's a 2.5% difference in energy expendature. That would mean that in order to do the acceleration in 10 seconds, you'd need to do a constant 494 vs 506 watts, respectively. I've never tried really light weight wheels, but based on these calcs, it's a bit fishy. Are we that good at perceiving a difference like that, or am I missing something? with a lighter (50 kg) rider that difference could go up to 2.8%, but that's still not a lot.
Thanks in advance!
(My calculations were based on the translational energy of the rider+wheels+bike, and I've also taken into consideration the rotational energy of the wheels. The wheels were assumed to have a radius of 0,355 m with all their weight at the 'rim'. Rider weight was 70 kg, bike weight (without wheels) was 6 kg, so system weight was 78 and 79 kg. Rolling resistance, air resistance and drivetrain losses were neglected when calculating 10 second power.)
I can't speak to the numbers but the difference is most notable when starting from stopped or at low speeds. the sensation when climbing slowly can also feel a bit different- less smooth with more noticeable dead spots in power stroke
There is no difference. The lighter a wheel is, the faster it spins up, but also the faster it spins down. Weight is weight. It doesn’t matter where it is, and it makes very little difference.
@@benfinesilver2250Well for cars it's well known that wheel weight reduction makes a noticeable difference. I would imagine it's the same for a bike.
@@username8644 It’s honestly been shown that rotational weight makes no difference compared to any other weight aside from momentary acceleration. It’s a flywheel. Weight in general makes very little difference at all. The difference between a deep section and a shallow wheel is a maximum of 500g. For every 1kg of weight it makes 2w difference on a 3% hill, 3w difference on a 6% hill and 4w difference on a 9% hill. What you gain from weight, you lose more from aero. Deeper wheels can stall air in crosswinds, but that again also depends on the design of the rim. Some deeper wheels can be better than shallower ones if they are designed to be so.
@@benfinesilver2250 what about going up 15-20% gradients. I ride very steep hilly gravel and I only weigh 127 pounds. I got a set of 1083 gram light bicycle wheels and I could tell a big difference when riding up the really steep gradients. I probably knocked off about 2 pounds of weight from my stock aluminum wheels.
Question... To replace the ceramic bearings in the 2023 Winspace Hyper wheelsets, which NTN bearings would I require?
Kit on Hambini. Com
@@Hambini Do you know the specific bearings I could pick up from you since I don't need the tools?
@@ThomasCraig2 it will vary depending on whether they are disc or not.
Stuff that doesn't suck is rarely as interesting but it's always nice to see good carbon wheels at better than fair prices. Still can't afford them but that's a different problem.
$1100 for bike wheels is still really expensive. You can buy a quality set of 4 wheels for a CAR for less money. Think about that for a moment.
@@username8644 It definitely makes me feel like buying a vacuum pump and making some molds. You don't have to sell a lot of 1100 bicycle wheels to be a very happy camper.
Any chance we will see caden wheels reviewed?
I purchased the Carbon Spoke Rim Brake CV wheelset.
There was only one wrap of tape, a crack in the tape and a tape bubble all the way around the wheel.
Not good.☹
RV55's are coming... On a slow boat from China. Will post more about it when they get here. Chose the free shipping/duty paid option as i dont trust the UK Gov to not bone me for another £200 in duty if i dont when they get here.
They'll be here in time for summer unless the delivery guy decides to put them on his bike and ride them all the way here from China, in which case it will be here by Christmas.
(probably wishful thinking but im trying to get in on as low of a budget as I can. My thought process is. If RV55's last the entirety of the warranty period and still have life left on them then i'll have the rims rebuilt with some aero CX-Xray spokes which i can pick up for fairly cheap when the time comes to put in new bearings.)
Hey Hambini. Think I'll be ordering a set of these! Just wanted to ask if the logo decals are indeed decals or printed on the wheels. Small thing but I'm not a fan of giant bright logos on wheels. Thanks for the review!
They are under the lacquer
They are printed. I have ordered the Black decals. Branding looks more subtle now. May not be a good thing for 9Velo though.
@@Hambini Thank you good sir. Not a deal breaker but good to know.
I asked them to give me a set with black decal and they were kind enough to do it but I will need to wait extra 2-3 weeks which is ok as I have what to ride meanwhile. They should offer that option from the start.
Let's collect money for a new Princess Blanket ---->>> Hello Hambini Funds!
I've compared my LV45s against my Winspace Hyper 50s on very hard ride with almost exact weather conditions except for about 4mph more wind during Ninevelo ride and the difference was 12 watts but speed exactly the same. I'd say that the Ninevelo LV45s are generally just as good for about $500 less. I also have a set of CV55s (carbon spoke) rim brake wheels on my TT/TRI bike and they are awesome. Ninevelo in my opinion are the best of the Chinese wheelsets for the money. You can't go wrong
Are modern carbon wheels ( disc brakes) a serious option for commuting? Old school logic is that alloy is more durable but discounting the price difference - is there a downside to carbon wheels for everyday riding?
If you damage a plastic rim, the repair becomes very expensive to replace a plastic rim. I wrench in a high end shop. Commuting and rough, seldom maintained roads are very abusive on wheels and tires. I've seen quite a few carbon rims damaged from a big nail going all the way through them. Another common failure is from high heat. People put their bikes on a car hitch rack and a wheel was too close to the vehicle's exhaust, damaging the plastic rim. This has happened more than just a few times! Then people (as usual) get mad at us for not warning them about the potential issue. I need to restrain myself from laughing at them!
It's my opinion that carbon wheels are best saved for special events and races. High end carbon components are designed for racing and racers. Minimal weight is usually a major consideration. Strength aspects are often compromised to a bare minimum. I've seen enough issues as to completely ignore all the marketing BS.
Race wheels are designed with minimal materials. They're designed for skilled athletes who are very skinny and lightweight. I've seen lots of rich yet overweight wannabes break all sorts of underweight, overpriced plastic stuff in the attempt to 'buy fitness and skills'.
In many cases, high end, Uber light, overpriced race gear inevitably becomes job security for me.
Remember, elite racers (who such wheels are designed for) are sponsored. They actually get paid to ride this stuff. They get this plastic stuff for free. If it's damaged or fails, the sponsor simply provides another. Elite racers usually have mechanics that take care of everything as well.
High end carbon gear and bikes are often very similar to super cars. They require special care and maintenance.
I've built custom wheels for over 30 years. For day in, day out commuting on typical poor condition urban roads in all weathers, you are much better served by conventional 32 spoke wheels with heavier alloy touring rims that will last for decades with minimum simple maintenance. Custom handbuilt wheels can be built for your specific needs and rider type. They are an excellent value compared to 'one size fits all' prebuilt wheelsets. It's an even better value when you know your builder personally. This will offer a bit of recourse should any issues arise opposed to the warranty process and middle men you'd need to deal with.
A commuting bike should be simple, extremely reliable and require minimal maintenance. My personal commuter and hardcore training tool is a custom steel fixed gear cyclocross bike. There is very little than can go wrong with my 'Crossafix'. All I need to maintain generally is oil on the chain and air in the tires.
Heavy wheels are great for fitness and training as well. Then you get on your lightweight race bike for those special events and it makes riding seem so easy!
I'd be curious to see where my Ican Trispoke wheel fits on the graph. It was cheap, seems really fast compared to my other wheels, and doesn't have any of the spoke and nipple issues that all those other wheels seem to suffer from.
@@Onigurethis is the one I got, I just got the front and run a disc in the back. You can customize the hub for whatever you want, I got 12mm centerlock and a plain matte paint
I've been using the farsports tri spoke. It's a completely different league
@@Onigure Light Bicycle do a Tri-spoke carbon wheelset. Would love to give them a go, they look pretty good.
Good
We need HED black series wheels on test
How come it was made available in the channel only today? It was in the page though. Ordered a set btw after you posted this, LV45s, waiting for their arrival. Keep up the good work and craziness!
Patreoners get it in advance, and there is some stuff that they only get that isn't on public view.
When are you going to review the Ryet hubs. You should check out the Goldix hubs too.
Already on patreon
quite a glowing review compared to the usual shit you get sent. Im a cheap bastard so im thinking about putting an order for the cheaper wheelsets. Thanks for the code and if they do ever materialise i'll be sure to come back and give an opinion. It will be the RV55's i'll be looking to pick up. On paper they are ever so slightly lighter than the set of Hunt Aero Super Dura's that I currently have on. Im enjoying them as they are quite punchy but they arent fast enough for me and fast = very fun.
Your Hunt Aeros are Farsports Kaze with a sticker on them.
@@benfinesilver2250 are you sure? Kaze's seem to be all carbon. Aero super duras are alloy.
@@Rose.Of.Hizaki I can say with 100% certainty that all Hunt wheels are most definitely Farsports catalogue from the factory. They even told me themselves. Perhaps you might be right about your model, I assumed it was the latest one. However, whatever the wheel is, it comes from Xiamen via Farsports, as do all of their wheels.
The rim, spokes and hub are “assembled” in the UK. By UK law, they can then claim to say that the wheels are “made in the UK”. I don’t mean any disrespect to you. It’s the truth.
This is the cycling industry. It’s all bullshit marketing and massive profits. There are many people, even pro cyclists fooled by the crap.
5:18 I fucking choked xD
Puberty! 5 going on 15!
which one RVL 40 $819 or new RV 40 with no drilled rim bed $889 and ratchet hub
Why do carbon spokes make me nervous?
Let me count the ways, 1) a small scratch from road debris could cause sudden failure. 2) the interface between the spoke and the rim and hub are critical high stress areas. 3) Good old steel spokes and aluminum rims work really well. 4) Carbon isn't really recyclable despite "green packaging " Even coal can be painted green!
Very similar hub to the Mavic ID360.
I wish Hambini would've delved into the lacing pattern of the front wheel rather than just dropping a passing comment. It's practice that disk wheels have non-radial lacings because they're optimal at transmitting torsional forces from hub to rim, i.e., stronger and stiffer. It seems the front wheel of this 9Velos wheelset is taking a cue from DS cross/NDS radially laced rim brake rear wheels while, curiously, all the rear wheel spokes (DS & NDS) are laced tangentially here. Hard disc braking can transmit substantial torsional force through front hub; I wonder why 9Velo opted to go this route. I don't know how much of an effect such a config has in real world use. Just curious.
Has anyone tried to get hubs from the ‘mother’ company h-works? I’m interested in their hw-m330 for a mtb wheel build with LightCarbon rims
Not a bearing expert, and I dont know what kind of steel they usualy use in bearing. But I do know that modern stainless steels kan be hardened to 65 rockwell and beyond. So why would stainless bearings be soft?
So that the race doesn't shatter
Because they don´t take the cost/hassle to harden them?? Rgr
Is new Hyper 2023 review coming?
Yes
What was that? Cough attack during "Hello Hambini fans"? 🤣
PUBERTY! ONLY THE HAIRDRESSER KNOWS!
They look good but no Campagnolo compatibility that I was able to find.
Lucky if you run 11speed system. Rgr
But when is the Cool Wall coming back?
I'm going to rename it the fcukometer
Whens the fcukometer coming back then 😂
Really, what is needed is a dartboard with Girard Vavoom's and Josh Partner's faces on it! Honorary shills plaque of shame! IMAGINEERS AND WANK ET EARS. Note the spelling.
Must be reaching the age of puberty now your voice is breaking🤟
00:05 HELLO HAMBINI FANS!!!
Elite 40D Vs 9velo 45?
9velo
@@Hambini Thanks!
"A different noise" -- proceeds to show ordinary DT Swiss 350 hub noise
Ratchet count- why choose one over the other?
Who is Lego man head
someone who looks like a bit of a tunc
No Campagnolo freehub.
They're the company that makes alloy car wheels. Camp who!
I want hambini to ream the shit wheels that came on my $500 rei bike with joyetech hubs
Nice wheels. Maybe I'll give them a go when they've proven themselves in the market. 1100 is a very good price for a wheelset but too much for me to spend on an unproven brand. So I'm saving my money for the SES 3.4 (or maybe 4.5.) I'm happy to pay a premium (Enve is" middle ground" of premium imhe) for the wider internal width, hookless bead, proven track record, backed by a guarantee and 150-210g weight saving. fwiw you should never expect twice the price to give twice the product. It's called marginal gains for a reason.
My ratchet hubs is a racket like angry bees in a swarm.
You missed my number 1 criteria in a wheelset. It has to have a sealed rim bed with no spoke holes for easy tubeless setup. I get off on a sealed rim bed 😂
All these eastern brand wheels look the same, just with different decals.
1100 buckerinos? not thanks, I can get a bike for that. for not much more I can get a ridley carbon with 105/disc brand new from store but 2021 model year for 15000sek pretty much 1500€.
1500 for a push bike? I could get a car for that
@@ap6584 hehe, a friend of min bought a spotless Volvo 850T for 10.000sek~1000€ which puts my daily driver to shame in condition even though I paid like 10x for my car :P so yea, u got a point but I would rather buy a motorcycle :P
I could get a very good hairdresser for that!
@@Hambini Hairdressers are the best investment.
These wheels use ceramic bearings. Long term durability can be questionable.
People justify enve pricing for the warranty. I rather have 2 sets of wheels.
2 sets of wheels, zero sets of teeth
@@janeblogs324 why wouldn't you have teeth?
With 2 sets, at least 1 is probably not defective.
@@davidburgess741 lol seem my fair share of busted up enve and zipp wheels at the shop. The reason I'll never buy them. Their warranty is just a crutch to excuse sub par quality and corner cutting, cough cough daft hookless road wheels.
@@naf2579 you haven't watched the carbon rim collapse videos yet?
cheap is right!!! Just ate out all week and spent $897 at restaurants, including tips of course. $1100 is how much I pay for eggs every few months. I remember when $600 was a good price for wheels... OMG, gone, long gone
$1100 for bike wheels is still really expensive. Comparing that to your terrible spending habits doesn't make them cheap, it just shows how much money you waste.
$1100 = cheap .. yeah, not in my world alas.
Wouldn't call $1100 cheap. Already way over my budget. I remember when I used to see carbon wheels on Amazon for $300, that's what I would call cheap. Funnily enough these brands were ican and elitewheels which now cost $1000+.
Cheap? ProX is cheap ,1100 USD aint
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Just something to make your Monday morning complete - a correction from a pal of yours
Very good. I shall digest.
This video showcases the impressive features of the 9Velo Rapid, including its well-made construction and DT Swiss style ratchet system. If you're looking for a high-quality bike at an affordable price, this one is definitely worth considering.
most organic comment i've ever read.
She has a nice arse though 🍑