2021 Yamaha Tracer 7 | There Is No Real Competition
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- Опубліковано 25 чер 2024
- For Sport Touring there is no other bike that directly competes against this, sure there are some that you can compare to this and I do in this video but they are not pure sport/touring machines.
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Video Chapters:
0:00 Intro
2:00 Competition
3:20 Powertrain
4:44 Chassis
6:51 Ergonomics
8:45 Controls & Display
11:00 Bang for Buck - Авто та транспорт
always a pleasure to watch your video scott
Just ordered my tracer 7, lowered for my short legs, looking forward to many years riding on this... Sunny side up everyone 🙌
Love your 'excel spreadsheets' - they are so helpful!
Great and honest review again. I'm looking forward to the new Triumph Tiger Sport 660 and how it will stand up and compare in this class of middle weight sport touring bikes!
I purchased my 2022 tracer based on this review, first bike in 20 years and I'm absolutely loving it. Even got the same colour.. Thanks
NothingToProve 👍
That's good to hear. How is she on secondary roads, cornering on the country lanes etc?
Great review as usual, Scott! Excellent comparison chart. Regarding the bike, interesting option, Yamaha achieved a well proportioned machine at least aestethicaly. Sadly not many sport tourings available here in Mexico (inlcuding this one of course), that´s a shame.
Good honest review thank you
I love this guys reviews. Nice, but honest in the important areas. I picked up an older Monster 1100 Evo, where his review put it over the edge vs another 821/1200.
The 2011 Monster 1100 evo is still today my favorite Ducati to ride. Air cooled (the last big Monster before they went liquid cooled and got heavier, so very light for the engine size) and all the electronics that we have today, albeit the first gen, still advanced electronics for the time. This was when Ducati's were still simple and we normal humans could work on them and not have to pay an expensive mechanic to do the maintenance.
It is a "riders" bike, period. Not many Ducatis are made to be ridden, this one IS! Enjoy it, take care of it and it will give you miles and miles of smiles 😁👌👍
take care,
Scott
Brilliant review
Thanks for this (as always) honest review, Scott 👍. As I miss my old CBF600 in a modern version (currently riding a 650R), there's no middle class Sports Tourer in the market that really convinces me (all lack some features, and/or make a cheap impression to me). Looking forward to see the Tiger 660 in 2022!
Me too I loved my Honda CBF 600
Miss mine old 06-CBF600s to.
Another great show (somehow I had become unsubscribed . . . . fixed that now). The graph showing the other bikes is always KILLER!
I don't know but yamaha makes the best design for their bikes
Tenere or tracer they are breath taking and both are my dream bikes
good review as usual .have thought about Maxi scooter such as the Honda Forza 750 which uses the NC750 motor.
I bought the exact same bike
A2 license is plenty strong 175 km/h indicated top speed and most of the torque accelerates the bike beautifully!
They cut off fueling at around 7,500 rpm which is plenty for all road applications in my book 😎
Great review and comparison chart is very useful. Looking at 2022 GT model which fixes the windscreen issue. Also I don't push it so the brakes will be fine for me I'm sure. Worth noting that for 2022, brakes are Yamaha branded so maybe they tweaked them as you suggested!
You were spot on about the screen, I prefer the naked Mt07
I love it wish they would make an 850 twin version with the electronics package the tracer 9 gt has. That would be a great stepping stone between the two. I love the tracer 9 gt but it is seriously fast, I might get a new one next year but not getting rid of the 7 lol
Strange this bike isn't available in Canada. Everyone loves the CP2 motor and sounds amazing with an exhaust. I talked to a guy that has a tenere 700 today also with a CP2 and exhaust, sounds great.
NTP,
Great review as always. Any idea on when the Tracer 7 GT will be sold in the states? If the GT offers cruise control it will out sell it's competition easily. Germany looks beautiful, enjoy it & ride safe.
I have no clue as to why the Japanese OEMs do things like this to the North American market. But one guess is that they think it won't sell in the American market, well at least well enough to make money. 😒 "small" or "smaller" usually does not do well in the U.S., especially with touring bikes 😒
I think Yamaha is missing out on bringing in younger potential customers to the brand by not bring this to the American market. They've been selling this in Europe since 2016. So I don't think it'll get to the U.S. any time soon 😥
take care,
Scott
I think the Tiger 660 due next year will boss this sector. Great review 👏
Yea, I think so too 👍
yamaha is proven reability and name..
Don't know where this is filmed , but some really lovely countryside to be seen .
Thanks.
Good review. About the windscreen, I think the buffeting is mostly wind coming up from lower down, about knee-high. Due to the lack of faring there.
About the jerky throttle, could be a loose chain or an ECU issue.
I see many people saying the new Tiger 660 Sport will be a competitor to the Tracer 7. I think it is a given that it will be miles better. For me the question is how it compares to the BMW 900XR. Hope you can test one soon!
Not a words compare to versys 650. Like the other videos u make. Thumb up. Any way
This is the one Yamaha still not sold in the US market and I’ve been asking Yamaha North America for years to bring it here, especially after the update. It may have no true competitor, but it’s following the trend began by the Versys 650 over a decade ago. The NC750X is the probably the closest competitor for now, but the upcoming Tiger Sport 660 will be a direct competitor.
Tiger is rather between tracer 7 and 9 because the Tiger has a 3 cylinder engine.
Maybe it’s because the tracer7 is made in France by Yamaha /MBK France and not in Japan.
Yep you definitely did, now you've got everything to prove
Italy's most sold - TRK 502, can be in the list. Triumph & Aprilia will joint the party soon. Good reviews there!
Benelli is 2nd league manufacturer...
Am in Spain with the ER6F and am feeling the finger pain of vibes, would dearly like to know what generation parallel twin to replace it with
I liked the video!
Thinking of buying a tracer 7, but as I'm 1.92m tall..... I haven't decided yet.
congrats from the island of Madeira.
Thank you! Greetings from Germany! See if you can go and sit on one cause I'm a bit shorter than you and it was kind of cramped for me. The Tracer9 fit me better.
Ride safe,
Scott
I got Tracer 700, im 2.03m tall😂
Hi Scott, i am looking for a motorcycle that is not to heavy and with decent handling. 2 up most of the time. Doesn’t need lots of power. I was looking for a tracer 7 gt or v strom 650. Maybe the new tiger 660 sport or the nc750x. Which one would you recommend. I am coming from a super sport 1000cc. Learned the hard way that I don’t need that much power on the road. Especially for 2 up and the speed limits in the Netherlands looking for a good motorcycle.. budget would be around 10k. thanks
As always, pure joy to hear you explain and guide us riders through your reviews.
My heart is saying Tracer 7, my mind is saying NC750x just because it has a bit more features (Traction control and ride by wire - 4 riding modes mainly), and it's a tad bit cheaper. Being 163cm (without riding boots) I also prefer the 800mm seat of the Honda, but jeez that Tracer gets my heart racing! What do you think?
Yea, the T7 will give you more excitement but the Honda is the bike you will want to take home to mama 👍😁
I'm on the same page as you... Still struggling between the tracer 7 and the nc750x 🤔
@@NothingToProve The question I want answered is: why won't Yamaha sell the Tracer 7 in North America?
@@pballerss have you chosen yet?
@@keithd87 yep. Got me a nice nc750x 2021. It is not as powerful as the tracer 7 and definitely has less biting power on the front breaks BUT got it almost 2k cheaper than the tracer, the average gas consumption is a bit lower.
Using it as a daily driver and touring bike, it is spot on for me. Right I am on the 5000km mark (and counting since I'm on a gas break 🤣)
BTW, the riding modes on the 2021 version, really change the bike! Sport is awesome to have some weekend fun, rain makes it stupid safe, standard for daily drives 👌
Hi. Let me ask what do you think about the dynamics compering with the NC 750 x (2021) which you tested a few weeks ago? I shortly tested both, and did not feel a huge difference until 100km/h. Yamaha seems a bit more agile. Both has the same price (Honda with dct). But Honda gives you more for your money. Which do you pick?
I am 180cm and found the Tracer 7 more comfy also. NC felt cramped. But NC was all the power I'd need.
I would take Yamaha over Honda in terms of the look, but choosing Honda, we have dct with traction control and storage under the tank for the same price. NO for Yamaha for me. NO traction control for that price is not acceptable
Have it from 2020, did over 15K km and this is day to day machine, does its job perfectly, I love playing with it, almost like on bicycle as it goes to maneuvring. Perfect for city riding. Fuel consumption - 3.8 l per 100km, absolutely no complaints, ride smooth, not idela for longer trips on highways and definitely, you will change the windscreen, it SUCKS. Also seat can be more comfy, thinking about changing it. And as you get better driver, you start to think about more powerful engine, meaning you would want to upgrade the bike :) But at the same time you dont want because its lovely thing. BTW - Michelin tires - wow, after 15K I think it s still like new, they last and last.
Matt grey, what are they thinking?
How would you compare it to the Versys 650? The Yamaha seems more road/sport focused. We don’t get the tracer 7 in Canada yet so I can’t check it out in person. Seems like the screen is better on the Versys & maybe it is a little less cramped? How would you compare the suspension, brakes and fit & finish between the 2? Thanks! I expect the new Tiger 660 to trump them all.
The Versys 650! It's very hard to beat for value, durability, reliability, maintenance...etc. AND the Versys has a lot more leg room. Suspension and brakes are about the same. 👍
Thanks for the reply and keep the great reviews coming!
pls review the v strom 650 pls pls pls :) It's the only one in that chart of yours that you didn't review.
If you can send some of these to the States, that would be great...
Hey Scott can you tell me what brand of bike pants you have ??
Sure, those are Trilobite Parado jeans :)
Wish we could get a tracer 7 gt in the states. Electronic cruise control would be nice as well. The tracer 9 is on my short list but I hate buying more bike than I need.
Yea, I always wondered that too, why the Japanese OEMs don't offer the smaller bikes in the States. I think it's cause they don't think they'll sell in the quantities needed to make a profit. 🙄
I wish manufactures made more sub 200kg bikes and a seat height of 30 inch, so weekend riders like me feel more confident
The nearest rival is versys 650
It’s a budget bike for smaller sized riders.You get what you pay for.I would go for a V Strom 650
i wonder why bmws cut the f800st and gt
I had to scope out the thumbnail for a few seconds. I thought you had a BMW 900XR instead of the Yamaha
It's a Nice looking bike with good specs and price. 😄
Only spec I do not like is the maximum added weight for passengers an luggage.
Which is the lowest of all middle class allroads. Thats a problem for long rides(multiple days) with 2 Persons and luggage. 😶
The Tracer 9 has the same problem too. Seems that Yamaha does not understand that people are a little bigger in the West. 😁🤣
Scott, you breifly mentioned seat height, did you mean its too high for you? Or too low
It is a little cramped for me and I needed more leg room, so I'd need a higher seat if I were to buy it. 8:22
@@NothingToProve interesting, 'cos it has a 35mm higher seat than the Nc750x you tried recently
@@mickleblade I would imagine the nc750x has lower footpegs giving more room. It's not as simple as seat height.,
I was not aware of this model Tracer - as a Tenere owner, it feels like Yamaha took a Tenere, stripped off the ADV accessories, and replaced them with Street accessories and voila - the Tracer 7. The frame geometry, stance and performance numbers all seem identical to the Tenere. Exactly the same engine.
@@RRRRefuelRideRace I disagree completely - although I will concede I have that I may have it reversed with the Tenere emerging from the Tracer 7's DNA - I would almost guarantee they are built on the same manufacturing lines. Have you ridden the Tenere? Pretty much exact in many regards with the exception of the street accessories and front fairings.
@@RRRRefuelRideRace No, I get that - it's a sports tourer - yes totally different in that regard. But as the owner of a T7, I am just remarking at the striking similarities from this review and getting a close up view of the current Tracer 700. It really is quite close to my T7 in many regards. Much more so than I expected to see. Go check out a T7 close up and I think you will agree. The performance numbers are almost exactly the same (obviously, same engine and probably similar gearing).
@@RRRRefuelRideRace I think we are saying the same stuff! lol. I am not sure if the Tenere is a better bike (I have not ridden a Tracer), I do love my T7, but from this review the Tracer looks like a really great bike too. I guess my reaction was just a bit of surprise at how much like my T7 it seems to be. When he is on the Tracer, the view of the cockpit feels just like my T7. All good - both great bikes designed for different types of riding.
Another good review. Thanks. Wish this bike was available in USA.
Got one of these as my first bike. Really like it but at 1.86cm tall the screen noisy when in up position. Not a surprise I guess. Will do for now.. otherwise really like the bike.
Hey, I'm thinking about buying one of these but the tight leg room might be a problem for long trips. For someone of your height isn't it uncomfortable to travel with this one ? thanks
It’s part of why I bought a tracer 9 after my first tracer 7. My knees were fine on the 7 but the 9 especially with the cruise control etc is a better touring bike for me. But the 7 was great and I did 7000km on it in less than a year and passed my test on it. Nice and light, plenty fast enough and with a top box very practical.
€116 for a Puig screen, but we shouldn't have to buy one. Steel braided lines? Depends on your riding. All the bike comparisons depend upon what you think is most important. Would you buy one? No. Would I? Yes, maybe, the price is right, the spec is right and I'm not impressed with the alternatives.
🤓👍🏻😎🏍💨💨💨💨💨💨👍🏻🇨🇦 good stuff as always
Will this be released in the U.S.?
Well, this is the second gen and still nothing in the States...so probably not. Yamaha does not think that they can sell and make a profit in North America, which is probably true, the T9 does well, so they figure that the T7 will take sales away from the T9 and they don't want to compete against them selves 🙁
Does anyone know if the Tracer 7 has a Slipper clutch?
Nope. :(
@@NothingToProve disapointing 🙁
All that money spent and the windscreen is just for show? It's not even good looking, let alone functional. What gives? I'll say it again, for the money you shouldn't have to complain about these two things-brakes and windscreen. I guess they are using old versions of "mini-me" to test ride these bikes in the wind tunnel? Overall, it looks and sounds like a good ride! I took your advice on the MRA vario windscreen for my BMW F900...what a difference it makes going down the road! Nice upgrade and well worth the money! I just wish BMW could have found a way to put adjustable front forks on this baby, it has just about everything else! Cheers Scott!
👍🏻 Nice one.
I like Honda NC 750X better than the Yamaha Tracer 7
Why you like it more?
@@HardcoreWeeaboo i also prefer NC750x(2021) because they have the same price (with dct) and Honda gives more for your money (slippery clutch, driving modes, dct, lower fuel consumption, luggage comportament etc.) I found the same agility until 100-110 if you accelerate 0 to 100 km/h. I think the max.speed is higher for Yamaha.
Is this bike available in the US?
Nope. Blame Yamaha.
Bummer
Looks better than the 900🤨, dash is far better but why can’t manufacturers supply a decent screen?
you can get the GT version of it and that got a bigger touring screen, and you can also order the touring screen as a option aswell
Just bought a Tracer 9gt and would agree on the looks. The screens must be designed for little Japanese test riders . Both excellent bikes tho' .
Is it a concern that the Tracer does not have a slipper clutch
Considering that the MT07 got a slipper and this didn't and this is more expensive than the MT07. So, more money for less stuff. And this did not get the engine updates that the 2021 got either and yes, I noticed it. But when compared to the competition, this is doing very well, except the Triumph Tiger Sport 660 beats this for value...imho.
ride safe,
Scott
Buyer should go for versys or tracer 7 ?
V strom 650
@@alexadrossotoglou1413 vstorm front tire 19 ince. Hard to choose tire for on and off road. For road version should give 17 in
@@alexadrossotoglou1413 vstorm should refresh the look
I don’t understand why they keep changing the model names, and why they have different names for the same bike in the us.. 🤪
I owned a 2015 Tracer 900, and I've tested the previous gen Tracer 700 and MT-07 and I just don't like these bikes Yamaha are making and this new Tracer 7 hasn't changed my mind. Something very cheap feeling about them and not keen on the looks.
I owned a '15 FZ07 and all the plastic cladding and cheap suspension had me trading for a Moto Guzzi V7III Carbon.
Needs some colour, to many bikes are all black and grey plastic!
Tracer 7 or Tracer 9?
Depends on the person, new or experienced, looking for more power or happy with less.
@@NothingToProve Good answer. I have 150hp+ Ducati ( and others) in the garage but I love riding my 700. And every time that I ride the 9 I realise that other than that brilliant CP3 engine ( and possibly cruise control, although I have a throttle lock which is OK ) it not actually an easy decision between the two based purely on riding. The 700/7 is a lot better than people think, and when you get to the 9 then for the extra weight one is into a new category which includes all the other sports tourers. If you can tell me which I prefer than please do as I can't decide....
Waiting for a ninja 1000sx review
Yea, so am I. Been trying to ride it for the last two summers! Something always happens to prevent me from getting my hands on the bike. The bike is "crashed" or sold or never comes in, logistics, sigh, oh well. 😢
@@NothingToProve Will wait for your review anyway.
@@NothingToProve looks like we have a new contender. Suzuki gsx s1000gt against the Ninja 1000sx
Good engineering, but on the cheap, uninspiring on looks. That tail does not look in place. No upside down forks. The kawa 650 looks amazingly more bike, in looks, paint, and components, in comparison.
And still not in the US, 😢
Maybe it’s because the tracer 7 is made in France by Yamaha/MBK France and not in Japan.
why can't we have tracer 7 in the states. makes me so angry.
Well, when I lived in the States for the first 40 years of my life I didn't know why OEMs did this either but now after living in Europe for the last 10 years, I've learned that smaller bikes or anything "smaller" does not sell well in the States. Americans have a reputation or attitude for "go big or go home" mentality and small capacity bikes and cars just don't sell well in the States.
But I still do have this mentality too, BUT my last bike I bought (2 yrs ago) the BMW 900 XR, going from a KTM1290 Super Duke R, so I'm starting to change too or it could be that I'm over 50 now and power is no longer #1 on my list.
take care,
Scott
You could place it in the F750GS range of BMW, both being a twin engine in the mid range of their sports tourer bikes. But the BMW would win in all segments. I wonder how you see that “competition”.
Except a big one. Reliabilty. You'd have to have somebody with a Yamaha tow you to the closest BMW dealer.
@@ernieschatz3783 if that would happen, the service is actually a pick up😉
F750 - 30kg heavier & 2,400 euro more for top spec model. It doesn't win there
@@stevecoaster2360 some brands are more expensive. But also get more, features that are real desirable when touring. Ok, the weight I agree, it’s much less on the Tracer7, but it’s also a small bike with the cons of less space, less suited for 2up, short wheelbase. In my opinion the Tracer 7 is the perfect starter on a budget commuter 1up bike that needs to carry some stuff in the panniers. But in case of a more experienced, more budget and longer distance touring and upgrade it really falls short.
@@stevecoaster2360 it's £8200 tracer vs £8600 f750gs in the UK and the 750 is 850cc and has rider modes and traction control. It is 224kg though that's not great.
Scott did you fart at 11:05 ?
Hahahahahahahaha. I think I hear it, too. 😃 Made me laugh so much. Thanks to both of you. 😃
Versys 650,vstrom 650,tiger 800 ,nc750x are rivals and in my opinion better all around bikes..
Euuh you don’t sound German at all 😮
Do you not realise the triumph tiger 660 exists. This is no comparison the tiger is far superior.
Umm...do you not realize the year that this video was made? LOL! It's ok, easy mistake to make. When I did this video, that bike did not exist as of yet.
take care,
Scott
@@NothingToProve my apologies 😋
@@PNH63 Not really dude...But now he did not tell you that he did a vid on the Tiger! So he has to apologize cuz He did a video on the Tiger. ua-cam.com/video/JoRIz--Yo-I/v-deo.html