You guys sound like a bunch of grandpas lmao Noone in the right mind would ever want a bronze car when they can have a black one. And calling a period correct Alpina chin spoiler boy racer-like is outright idiotic.
I agree that it was a mistake to lose the original bronze colour. They made a lot more work for themselves (which they did not show) and lost an element of originality which means a some potential purchasers would no longer consider the car.
It is what they don't say that's concerning. The cost of that paint job would've put this car beyond budget whilst reducing the potential original stock value.. the BMW bronze colour WAS the sport colour in it's day. I'm 44 and even I know that!
I had a 323 in that colour. It was quite special, tan recaros, 3 spoke steering wheel, extra fuel tank in the boot, alpine front spoiler, 13’ BBS dish Everyone can have a black car, that colour is original and so period
Yep, that worked out well. The 323i was a real gem, pretty much the same interior space as a 6 series. faster than than a 628i and not far off a 635csi.
Back in 1994 I bought an E21 323i from my first wife’s uncle. It was a 79 V reg and he was the only owner in 15 years, so I was 2nd owner. It was very tired in, out and mechanically so I restored it. But 4 years later I sold it 😢 I paid just £850 for it - wish I still had it today, that’s for sure. It was finished in Phoenix Orange so was a real head turner
Back in the 1980's I had the ultra rare forerunner to the 323i, it was a 1976 320i 4 cylinder I believe the blocks were highly sought after for Formula 1,000? Mine was factory non metallic black, I had it resprayed and the Martini stripes fitted it also had a Britax folding fabric sunroof, Philips servoglide electric windows and cross lattice alloys. A real beauty & a flying machine
Nice video, thank you for entertainment. The same restoration with the original color would be the best I can imagine. Black looks always nice, unfortunately the special charisma without the original color is lost
A guy that knows nothing about cars wants to make money with cars, so gets an 'expert' involved, whose 'expertise' turns out to be knowing people capable of actually doing the work. I've had quite enough of these fake programs.
I am not opposed to some mods, as I find fully stock cars rather boring, but changing the colour on a valuable classic is a big no no. I own an E28 myself, and although I lowered it, mounted a set of 16’ BMW cross spoke wheels and fitted a Simons sports exhaust system, I will keep it in its original Lachssilber colour. The other mods are easily reversible should I ever sell it and the new owner has a different taste, although I highly doubt I would ever sell that beautiful machine…✨
Great little car. It looks great in black. I hate the striping though. I like the original color. I used to drive a 316 e21 from 82. It was also painted black. Originally it was Pusta green.
Wow brought back childhood memories as an 80s baby.. my father had the same car after a Datsun 120y fastback.. (fast being opposite of what it was😂). My dad's 323 was dark metallic greenactment and on the boot where the black plastic is between the lights was a reflectivered "323i" plastic.. best car my dad had too.. top job 👌
Investing in losing money.... Original colour would have been a killer for the true collector. The current update looks cool, but the increase of value is for the ones kept in original condition.
Who lets this Drew guy appear on television? He obviously failed in antigues and now cars as well, no car of that era was black, a child would understand..
I owned a 1979 733i, 4 speed stick. It was the best car I ever owned, if it weren't the absolute worst car I ever owned. Not a month went by that it didn't require some other very expensive repair. It was truly at it's absolute best when it was parked, indoors, in storage from October thru March.
I loved the 83 320i in Baltic Blue I had in high school (89-91)...it was s 5spd 4cyl but it was quick, it was lowered so it handled like it was on rails, plus I had over 2000 watts going thru two 15" woofers, two 6" subs, and two tweets...it rocked...🤘🏻🇺🇸
The car that put BMW On the map!! Not too big, not too small, Great handling, pePpy and most ImportantLy never gets Outdated inside or out!! Very well Balanced.....
Unfortunately as Drew hasn't driven one as a daily driver in rain and snow he knows nothing about these cars true handling. Fun on a summer's day, lethal and tail happy in the wet and rubbish in the snow, that's a fact I drove one every day for 2 years. Previous owner did a 180 spin coming off a wet island and it scared him into selling it!
@@richardhaywoodh The steering ratio is 4:1 so catching the oversteer isn't easy. A quick rack can be bought nowadays (cheaply too) and will transform the steering feel. They really need an LSD too.
As a bodyman of 30yrs, I find the color black most suitable. It’s a color that will tell on you if you overlooked any detail on the the bodywork. It’s also a sign of class. Much respect to Drew’s choices on this car.👍
Not really an early 323i. The first series 323i was built from 1977-1982. The wing mirrors as on this model were fitted from 1980 or 1981. Till then the wing mirrors were in chrome, smaller and attached to the metal of the door.
My old man's first of many Beemers was this car in a light metallic green..........All my mates were well jealous! Unfortunately, I was too young to get a shot behind the wheel......but I made up for it a few years later when he had the 1st ever M5 sold in Scotland;~))......Which he only had for 10months, because it was just too fast! He part exchanged it for a 735i........Which, ironically, wasn't much slower! Lol!
@@kells77 it looked bad before, but they should have painted it black, kept the original wheels and just put the pinstripe along the side. Looks ridiculous now with those Alpinas and the extra lines on the boot and front spoiler.
I dream of restoring my 07 dodge ram. I am broke as a joke however I will do it someday. I own the greatest truck ever. I fell to certain death and survived reason being is I left my truck running on sub zero winter day in Michigan. Without the truck idling in the distance I feel I wouldn't have made my crawl after falling 25 feet. Once I made it too my truck I laid under the exhaust pipe to thaw out then climbed in my truck to call for my own medivac. My truck had over 400,000 miles on it that day and it never missed a beat. Everyone currently telling me to get rid of it. Truly will never happen some day my truck will live again like I am. Injuries shattered hip and pelvis broken right shoulder 10 broken ribs bruised lungs and severe hypothermia and permanently bruised femer. Again greatest truck ever.
Unless they are doing a full frame off restoration…. Overthinking it. Original original original. I am of the mind to never second guess the team of bmw engineers and keep everything, except maintenance items, original. That said…….. DAMN I LIKE IT. WHEW! not sure the cost will pay off
Changes fabulous period 1980's colour for boring 2020 favourite colour (like every other car on the road either black or silver) whilst saying he wants to save the car's "Integrity" ... I'd like to see a passing Magpie yank Drew's poncy "I'm artistic me" floppy flat cap off and spray his baldy bonce metalic black!
Drew (it must be kept original) Pratchard has ruined an original 323i, it was bad enough changing the body colour from red to black but to then try to make it look like an alpina has really spoiled that job.....
These were lovely on their day and stayed lovely. They went through the normal thing 70s BMWs did in middle age, becoming rat cars driven fast and illegally and without MoTs around London. But those that survived are worth the trouble. The E21 320 (6 cylinder) was also rather lovely. A 2002 but more so. Not cheap to run, but wonderful to be in.
came out really nice but for all the money they spend making these shows you'd think they would at least do a little better documentation ,for example the horse hair padding was used in the e30 as well ,e21 wasn't the last one to use it.
This was my first car back in 1990 . I was student in university. Great memories !!!
Insane to change the colour on that car ..would have looked amazing in the bronze with a EuroSpec look ..better than ending up scrap though
Yes, have to agree. The spoiler on the front has made it into a boy racer job. A repaint in the original colour would have been best.
In the original colour without the spoiler and the terrible striping it would have looked a lot better. Museum worthy. Now it looks silly.
You guys sound like a bunch of grandpas lmao
Noone in the right mind would ever want a bronze car when they can have a black one.
And calling a period correct Alpina chin spoiler boy racer-like is outright idiotic.
I agree that it was a mistake to lose the original bronze colour. They made a lot more work for themselves (which they did not show) and lost an element of originality which means a some potential purchasers would no longer consider the car.
Totally agree.
It is what they don't say that's concerning. The cost of that paint job would've put this car beyond budget whilst reducing the potential original stock value.. the BMW bronze colour WAS the sport colour in it's day. I'm 44 and even I know that!
I had a 323 in that colour. It was quite special, tan recaros, 3 spoke steering wheel, extra fuel tank in the boot, alpine front spoiler, 13’ BBS dish
Everyone can have a black car, that colour is original and so period
Absolutely agree, changing the colour and adding silly pinstriping on every panel was a bonkers idea😮
As a teenager in the 80's this was automotive royalty! Well a least until the 325i 😆
agree I owned both , 325i very quick car for its day but the 323i sounded the best and was more of a handfull in the wet.
should have kept the original colour
Yep, that worked out well. The 323i was a real gem, pretty much the same interior space as a 6 series. faster than than a 628i and not far off a 635csi.
Back in 1994 I bought an E21 323i from my first wife’s uncle. It was a 79 V reg and he was the only owner in 15 years, so I was 2nd owner. It was very tired in, out and mechanically so I restored it. But 4 years later I sold it 😢 I paid just £850 for it - wish I still had it today, that’s for sure. It was finished in Phoenix Orange so was a real head turner
Don't reckon the pin stripes and definitely should have kept original colour
Back in the 1980's I had the ultra rare forerunner to the 323i, it was a 1976 320i 4 cylinder I believe the blocks were highly sought after for Formula 1,000? Mine was factory non metallic black, I had it resprayed and the Martini stripes fitted it also had a Britax folding fabric sunroof, Philips servoglide electric windows and cross lattice alloys. A real beauty & a flying machine
Nice video, thank you for entertainment. The same restoration with the original color would be the best I can imagine. Black looks always nice, unfortunately the special charisma without the original color is lost
There goes the self proclaimed car expert changing something that didn't need changing in the first place.
I wonder if his house is painted black?
Drew, the 'expert what a joke he is ...
Complete tool
A guy that knows nothing about cars wants to make money with cars, so gets an 'expert' involved, whose 'expertise' turns out to be knowing people capable of actually doing the work. I've had quite enough of these fake programs.
In a nutshell.
Agree, totally!
Harsh but fair , I know I'm right Drew ,yeah right.
100% agree!
had one in the late 80s ..... remember one late night dash for london to Newcastle in 3 hours pre cameras.
Best metallic colour for the e21! It really lights up under the lights at night.
I am not opposed to some mods, as I find fully stock cars rather boring, but changing the colour on a valuable classic is a big no no.
I own an E28 myself, and although I lowered it, mounted a set of 16’ BMW cross spoke wheels and fitted a Simons sports exhaust system, I will keep it in its original Lachssilber colour.
The other mods are easily reversible should I ever sell it and the new owner has a different taste, although I highly doubt I would ever sell that beautiful machine…✨
*Drew & Paul Get Rid of 45 Years Worth of Originality And Spoil A BMW 323i*
Crazy changing that color.
Great little car. It looks great in black. I hate the striping though.
I like the original color. I used to drive a 316 e21 from 82. It was also painted black. Originally it was Pusta green.
I had 2 e21s in the late 1980s. A 320 and the 323i. Loved them both
I had 1976 320i 4cyl super rare so much faster than the 4cyl 320 carb I had after it
Wow brought back childhood memories as an 80s baby.. my father had the same car after a Datsun 120y fastback.. (fast being opposite of what it was😂). My dad's 323 was dark metallic greenactment and on the boot where the black plastic is between the lights was a reflectivered "323i" plastic.. best car my dad had too.. top job 👌
A period correct Alpina striping i could have understood but not these clown car stripes on the trunk and sides. Especialy those on the trunk
I owned 2 of these beautiful BMW's both black and one was Alpina spec, wish I still had her! 😍
Investing in losing money.... Original colour would have been a killer for the true collector. The current update looks cool, but the increase of value is for the ones kept in original condition.
Who lets this Drew guy appear on television? He obviously failed in antigues and now cars as well, no car of that era was black, a child would understand..
My Dad worked for Shell research and regularly came home in a black one of these...RHN 13X from memory,was a gorgeous car if hairy in the wet
Say what you like he is “numero uno” in the field of sciolism.
I owned a 1979 733i, 4 speed stick. It was the best car I ever owned, if it weren't the absolute worst car I ever owned. Not a month went by that it didn't require some other very expensive repair. It was truly at it's absolute best when it was parked, indoors, in storage from October thru March.
I loved the 83 320i in Baltic Blue I had in high school (89-91)...it was s 5spd 4cyl but it was quick, it was lowered so it handled like it was on rails, plus I had over 2000 watts going thru two 15" woofers, two 6" subs, and two tweets...it rocked...🤘🏻🇺🇸
The car that put BMW On the map!! Not too big, not too small, Great handling, pePpy and most ImportantLy never gets Outdated inside or out!! Very well Balanced.....
The only car that made me cry of joy !! (driving in Sweden) after that no car came close to it, no way!! Never ever, now way!!!
Drew ends this worshipping the handling, yet i remember the swing axles at the rear being treacherous in the wet…
Still are in today's models
They were always arse happy had the arse end of mine hanging out many a time lol
Unfortunately as Drew hasn't driven one as a daily driver in rain and snow he knows nothing about these cars true handling. Fun on a summer's day, lethal and tail happy in the wet and rubbish in the snow, that's a fact I drove one every day for 2 years. Previous owner did a 180 spin coming off a wet island and it scared him into selling it!
@@richardhaywoodh The steering ratio is 4:1 so catching the oversteer isn't easy. A quick rack can be bought nowadays (cheaply too) and will transform the steering feel. They really need an LSD too.
@@Retrobeemer did some 323i have an LSD ?
As a bodyman of 30yrs, I find the color black most suitable. It’s a color that will tell on you if you overlooked any detail on the the bodywork. It’s also a sign of class. Much respect to Drew’s choices on this car.👍
These wee snippets are great, no sitting through 20 mins of ads and repetition 👍
I had a baur 323 convertible and a alpine 5 series, Doh! They were worth nout back in the early 90s
Imagine the disappointment after washing it down only to reveal a knackered old BMW 323i, a shocker of a car.
He's surprised about horse hair being in the seats, yet there is a very rare & expensive market that uses them in mattresses.
You can buy that exact same coach line on a roll from Halfords for a Fiver...
Beautiful car, any ideas where they got the bumper chrome? Thanks
Not really an early 323i. The first series 323i was built from 1977-1982. The wing mirrors as on this model were fitted from 1980 or 1981. Till then the wing mirrors were in chrome, smaller and attached to the metal of the door.
They had a different dash with vertical heater controls too.
Exactly.
I was thinking the same thing.
So far for them being “experts”.
Early had an analogue clock in the middle of the dash and later had a digital red LED display in the instrument binnacle.
I had one of these when I was 17 the police could never catch me 🤣
Horrible pinstriping yuck makes it look so fake. Ruined a cool car. Wheels are way too large.
I agree, keep it original dont mess with OEM specs.
@@flyingd217 15'' Alpina wheels are period correct. They did 13's but those were for the 2002's really.
Wheels are spot on.
To keep it original you could of died that carpet, there was no wear on it.
My old man's first of many Beemers was this car in a light metallic green..........All my mates were well jealous! Unfortunately, I was too young to get a shot behind the wheel......but I made up for it a few years later when he had the 1st ever M5 sold in Scotland;~))......Which he only had for 10months, because it was just too fast! He part exchanged it for a 735i........Which, ironically, wasn't much slower! Lol!
My dad had a new 323i in 1984 in Henna red, it was glorious apart from the steel wheels 😬
Such a fine line between tasteful and pimp on these. You've crossed that line.
Eh looks much better now
@@kells77 it looked bad before, but they should have painted it black, kept the original wheels and just put the pinstripe along the side. Looks ridiculous now with those Alpinas and the extra lines on the boot and front spoiler.
@@TC10193 agree about the pin strip
I like the wheels tho as they are period mod
But I do know what u mean
@@TC10193
Nothing ridiculous about Alpina wheels.
They are period correct.
@@e28forever30 They make the car look modified though.
My childhood dream car which I dreamt to buy in black and put zender spoiler kit at that time which use to make them look gorgeous
Drew demands original but then changes the paint color? The bronze was a good color.
It would be better if you let us hear the engine sound too. Thanks anyway, nice video
Oh yes!!!
I remember my dad and just about everyone looking at these as the car they wish they could have.
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I dream of restoring my 07 dodge ram. I am broke as a joke however I will do it someday. I own the greatest truck ever. I fell to certain death and survived reason being is I left my truck running on sub zero winter day in Michigan. Without the truck idling in the distance I feel I wouldn't have made my crawl after falling 25 feet. Once I made it too my truck I laid under the exhaust pipe to thaw out then climbed in my truck to call for my own medivac. My truck had over 400,000 miles on it that day and it never missed a beat. Everyone currently telling me to get rid of it. Truly will never happen some day my truck will live again like I am. Injuries shattered hip and pelvis broken right shoulder 10 broken ribs bruised lungs and severe hypothermia and permanently bruised femer. Again greatest truck ever.
Looks superb. 👌
What about its millage, if its over 400 miles its not worth doing is it
Stunning in black with those wheels.
Unless they are doing a full frame off restoration…. Overthinking it. Original original original. I am of the mind to never second guess the team of bmw engineers and keep everything, except maintenance items, original. That said…….. DAMN I LIKE IT. WHEW! not sure the cost will pay off
when you look closely, it looks like it is moving whilst be stood still
WOW, what a beautiful car and an outstanding job on the restoration, very, very well done
You chaps are good and show how simply a tasteful modification can look turn then flip a classic vehicle around love the program series..
I have a old mill to empty and I think they my be some thing in it before it get nock down
What a beautiful car!
had to be M bluw with gold alpina striping bbs 3 part wheels recaro sport seats and open pipe at the end
Okee Sjonnie.
So did they make any money out of it?
Changes fabulous period 1980's colour for boring 2020 favourite colour (like every other car on the road either black or silver) whilst saying he wants to save the car's "Integrity" ... I'd like to see a passing Magpie yank Drew's poncy "I'm artistic me" floppy flat cap off and spray his baldy bonce metalic black!
Brilliant job 👍👍👍
Whilst bronze is a bit marmite, black is just horrible - really bad choice IMO. Silver or pale blue or green metallic would have really set it off.
ICON. Drew, you absolutely right with Black colour. This is my dream car from my childhood, never had one, but had 323Ci E46 to dry my tears.❤️
Lovely! I'd love to have an E21 323.
Surprise surprise a over 50 white guy is the first to see and buy !
Muppets n Motors
Drew (it must be kept original) Pratchard has ruined an original 323i, it was bad enough changing the body colour from red to black but to then try to make it look like an alpina has really spoiled that job.....
Really nice!! 18.000 pound car now.
These were lovely on their day and stayed lovely. They went through the normal thing 70s BMWs did in middle age, becoming rat cars driven fast and illegally and without MoTs around London.
But those that survived are worth the trouble.
The E21 320 (6 cylinder) was also rather lovely. A 2002 but more so.
Not cheap to run, but wonderful to be in.
I owned a silver 1980 323i when I was 18,, a true chick magnet that car was..
Another classic messed up. Original is always best!
'It's only original once'.......so let's change the colour?
What a pity!!!
Brilliant 👍👍
Nice 323i
it's bugging me can anyone help I can't be bothered to search. Who is narrating this?
came out really nice but for all the money they spend making these shows you'd think they would at least do a little better documentation ,for example the horse hair padding was used in the e30 as well ,e21 wasn't the last one to use it.
Chrome is extraordinarily expensive!!
madness to change colour original was great
5 grand, what a steal
E21 is new for ever
Nice car. Also nice that the modifications can be taken off easily is somebody was to make it original.
Black is ok on some cars. Usually just hides mediocre design.
I bet Drew's house had a red door......but he wanted it painted black
Shame the car is now being sold for parts on eBay after only doing 100 miles.
Fishy
45 seconds from end we see its manual 🙄
Very Fair price at 5k
What a great looking car! I really like what they did with it. I’d of loved to buy it 😬
I'm sorry. I read that as savage hunters. But that might work too...
Retaining that horsehair stuffing added $0 to the resale value of the car.
Very nice restoration. Tasteful and classy.
Drew is so so annoying !
would love to watch it, but can't stand that stool drew.... and idiots wrecked the originality of the car
I had a black one of those , bought it for £250
Why not have it washed first? Oh yes, that's why lol...
"checking for defaults"? wtf
The E30 also used horse hair until 87
What about the brake lines and all the rest of the other parts than be dodgy
Said twice its a saloon. Its a coupe
It's a 2-door saloon...
Spoiled a great car. Those pin stripes aren't period and more than that, they look shit.