How China Spies on the UK

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  • @restispolitics
    @restispolitics  15 годин тому +5

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  • @SornGeorge
    @SornGeorge 14 годин тому +20

    It’s great that in the West we champion women’s and LGBTQ+ rights and I’m all for it. Yet, I’m struck by how discussions about minority freedoms in the Middle East often overlook Christian minorities. Before Syria’s civil war, Christians made up 10% of the population; now they’re just 2%. These ancient communities, present since antiquity, face erasure-but their plight seems ignored, perhaps because it’s neither trendy to care about Christian minorities nor politically convenient to acknowledge the issue. Can Rory or Alastair address this topic at some point?

    • @tahiti1
      @tahiti1 6 годин тому +4

      And the US evangelical right are particularly guilty in ignoring the fact that so many palestinians, syrians, lebanese and egyptians are Christian,and direct descendents of the founding churches.

    • @sharonmoller7414
      @sharonmoller7414 2 години тому

      @@tahiti1 100% the Americans forget Christianity was a vibrant eastern religion before it became a western religion.

  • @DavidBaxter-pk7kl
    @DavidBaxter-pk7kl 12 годин тому +14

    As an ex-ad man I know that name/brand awareness is key to explaining market success. Trump's fame/celebrity from his tv show gave him tremendous name awareness in the US. BJ's tv appearances on HIGNFY made him a household name. Farage's omnipresence on our tv screens has made him the most famous politician in the UK. Don't be surprised by what follows.

    • @HomeFromFarAway
      @HomeFromFarAway 12 годин тому +3

      also, studies of groups show that the person who talks the most is likely to be chosen as leader. this even overcomes gender bias....and interestingly enough, cult leaders are notoriously long winded

    • @lukmaes6290
      @lukmaes6290 10 годин тому +2

      Indeed, 100% correct

  • @peznino1
    @peznino1 13 годин тому +35

    Why can't we have more politicians talk and discuss openly, honestly, courteously, humbly and intelligently like these two. I've become a fan despite my initial misgivings based on assumptions about their pasts. Very pleasantly surprised to stumble across this podcast a few weeks ago.

    • @InsanitiesBrother
      @InsanitiesBrother 9 годин тому

      People want straight talking politicians, but there is a big chunk of the public that follow pop politics headline to headline.
      Within the first 5 minutes of this podcast there are so many damaging headlines if either Rory or Alistair were in positions of power.
      "Tory Minister supports closer ties with the CCCP AFTER admitting they are spying on the UK"
      "Labour spin doctor naively thinks 1000s of Chinese spies are just having fun"
      Followed by out of context quotes. Then you get media cycles around this crap. LBC will act like either position are dreadfully appalling and the politician will either be sidelined by the party or they'll be asked to dig the hole deeper.

    • @Weakeyedominant
      @Weakeyedominant 8 годин тому +2

      Alister Campbell is anything but honest.

    • @inthefieldunderthesky
      @inthefieldunderthesky 8 годин тому +2

      You have a long way to go to wake up to what these two are

    • @leslieelizabeth219
      @leslieelizabeth219 6 годин тому +1

      Could not agree with you more. It was great to see Rory Down Under last month .

  • @derekfancett8218
    @derekfancett8218 12 годин тому +25

    In many ways the greatest damage done by Chinese intelligence-gathering was done years ago. As China "opened-up" a wave of Chinese academics were invited into our Universities and Research Institutes and they hoovered up all the ongoing research and development across most of the western world. This saved them decades of work and research-team building, not too mention a fortune in R&D costs and brought their technology up to speed so that they could compete with the West. This has been combined with a contempt for Western intellectual-property laws so that direct copies and counterfeits can be legally produced and fed into supply-chains by Chinese manufacturers. Many Chinese products would not be anything like as cheap as they are if the manufacturers had had to bear the development costs.

    • @HomeFromFarAway
      @HomeFromFarAway 12 годин тому +1

      this is an excellent point too

    • @hisdadjames4876
      @hisdadjames4876 10 годин тому

      Britain is justifiably proud of its own intelligence capability. For 200 years plus, we have successfully infiltrated the networks of friends and foes alike in pursuit of economic, diplomatic and security interests. The older stuff is already in the public domain, as will the current stuff become in due course. Lets stop whingeing, with mock indignation, about the Chinese catching up with us🤷‍♂️

    • @methyleneblue4659
      @methyleneblue4659 10 годин тому +4

      No true. Exactly the opposite is the case. Chinese researchers came over here, with their knowledge, to do research for us.... that we keep and use. Chinese students choose to come here, fund our universities and go away with wrote knowledge they could get from any number of countries around the world, including China. China spends 6 times more on AI, Defense, Space and Industrial R&D than all of Europe and the US put together. Chinese products are cheaper because their labour cost are low, there manufacturing is more efficient and long term communist development strategy is currently outpacing 4 year western governments turnarounds. I'm not a fanboy of China by any means. We need to acknowlegde the reality and act appropriately.

    • @derekfancett8218
      @derekfancett8218 9 годин тому

      @@methyleneblue4659 Distinctly red-tinted spectacles in use here "not a fan-boy".

    • @Weakeyedominant
      @Weakeyedominant 8 годин тому

      ​@@methyleneblue4659the real thing holding china back is their authoritarian regime that likes to meddle in everything everything is too centralised that stifles innovation.
      Their aging population is going to slow their economic growth dramatically as well. Gone are the days where 10% growth in GDP was considered a slow down.

  • @waltermcphee3787
    @waltermcphee3787 10 годин тому +5

    Israel does not have to be under attack to paint anyone critisising the Israelie system or governmentas anti-semite, that is their starting point.

  • @guineapigscotland
    @guineapigscotland 14 годин тому +14

    Agree 100% with Alastair, Gisèle Pelicot should've been Person of the Year

    • @markking4730
      @markking4730 5 годин тому

      Unusually I agree with Alistair!

  • @seanfaherty
    @seanfaherty 13 годин тому +8

    I agree with Rory's thought on the King

  • @odi299
    @odi299 13 годин тому +18

    I strongly believe that Rory or Alastair should consider turning off the comment section. It’s becoming increasingly hostile, with people making inflammatory statements about halting immigration. Seeking asylum is a legal right, and this issue has been addressed repeatedly. Allowing such hateful and divisive rhetoric to persist only fuels unnecessary tension and conflict, which is deeply concerning.
    Thank you, Alastair, for your thoughtful and compassionate approach to supporting immigration and for showing genuine care for the well-being of others. Your leadership on this is both admirable and needed.

    • @seanfaherty
      @seanfaherty 13 годин тому +11

      oh yes,
      freedom of speech is messy but it is better than everybody having to agree with you on everything

    • @odi299
      @odi299 13 годин тому +2

      @ As an asylum seeker myself I find the comments reprehensible and the comments section needs to be turned off

    • @seanfaherty
      @seanfaherty 12 годин тому +9

      @ the comments are reprehensible.
      They have a right to be reprehensible. You have a right to try to convince them to be decent.
      To find harmony you have to listen.
      If we don’t discuss how our society should be run we will have multiple tiny societies where people dare not give opinions.
      Democracy is dirty.
      Authoritarianism is clean but stagnant.

    • @Multimine
      @Multimine 12 годин тому

      Russian bot!!!

    • @HomeFromFarAway
      @HomeFromFarAway 12 годин тому

      honestly, a lot of those comments are paid trolls or people who have taken in and elieved the russian propaganda "talking points" on the issue. Russia is documented forcing syrians over the border with Finland. and not even refugees, many of them had visas to stay in russia and they were evicted in order to destabilise europe

  • @neighbourhoodmusician
    @neighbourhoodmusician 14 годин тому +9

    Surely the chemical sector is down because hazardous transportation into the EU is now enormously more difficult than it used to be? I used to work in the chemical industry and it was already difficult. It's not all about energy and offshoring for carbon reduction reasons. Having experienced and managed post-Brexit customs for business shipping (including admin and the physical process), it's already ludicrously more difficult to get anything into and out of the EU, so hazardous materials must be even worse.

    • @HomeFromFarAway
      @HomeFromFarAway 12 годин тому +1

      this comment should be higher up the list

  • @zbigniewsobota1564
    @zbigniewsobota1564 2 години тому

    in 1938 Adolf was named "Man of Year" by Times but it does not mean they supported his ideas. Man of the year means biggest influence for good or bad. 1938 and 2024 is for bad :(

  • @-JLC
    @-JLC 14 годин тому +7

    "Who's your person of the year, Ror-"
    "thE KING 🫡"
    Love this

  • @lizzieatherfold2293
    @lizzieatherfold2293 7 годин тому +1

    It’s absolutely excellent to be able to listen to you both, I appreciate your educated insights on the subjects you discuss thank you both

  • @nickmalpeli8156
    @nickmalpeli8156 4 години тому +1

    Hi Alistair walked past you earlier today outside the VSC in London, before my brain kicked you had gone, but would have said thanks to you and Rory for the podcast, so interesting.

  • @FRM101
    @FRM101 14 годин тому +4

    Lithuania isn't obsessed with shipping their energy consuming industries off to China in the mad pursuit of deindustrialization (20:50).

  • @4x4r974
    @4x4r974 15 годин тому +19

    There is nothing wrong with trading with China. The problem is that the British establishment is spineless. Would China accept any undue influence from the UK just because of trade? To the contrary, they have campaigns to remove even the softest and more indirect kinds of influence (like 'western' holidays) etc. The most obvious thing that isn't being addressed is that this isn't just about organized spying. A lot of it relies on normal Chinese citizens who live abroad being so ethno-nationalist that they spy voluntarily or get tasked something and actually follow through.

    • @PJH13
      @PJH13 15 годин тому

      I don't think it's just ethno-nationalism, that facilitates recruiting Chinese nationals who live abroad to spy. Their intelligence services are very happy to use threats against relatives, still living in China, as leverage.

    • @HomeFromFarAway
      @HomeFromFarAway 12 годин тому

      They're spineless with russia too. half of london is owned by oligarchs so nobody in power dares speak

    • @erongi233
      @erongi233 11 годин тому

      No danger of the same thing happening the other way round.The Establishment only trusts the masonic brotherhood of Old Etonians.

    • @waltermcphee3787
      @waltermcphee3787 10 годин тому

      then don't forget Edward Snowden and proof that the US is spying on just about everyone, what is the difference?

    • @drscopeify
      @drscopeify 5 годин тому

      Not just that but China has banned all western tech companies, Google, Apple, UK media, movies, TV shows, music, everything is BANNED in China and since we in the west our economies are based on SERVICES that is our export it is services like music, entertainment, and China has banned this all so the west has total imbalanced trade with China as it has banned our exports and yet it China is free to flood our countries with their exported goods. That leads to money leaving western countries heading to China leading to 2008-2020 when inflation was low as money paid for goods was constantly leaving our economies heading to China = interest rates had to be kept artificially low which ballooned home prices. So China has a big hand in why house prices have inflated so much in the west and the cost of living crisis.

  • @ED-zt3gf
    @ED-zt3gf 4 години тому

    Fuse energy is so cheap that we're wearing heavy winter clothing in our studio

  • @xiaoranmo7308
    @xiaoranmo7308 15 годин тому +3

    18:59 America also offshore production to China, but it develop new sectors. Europe still stuck with old industries

  • @richardmitcham6392
    @richardmitcham6392 Годину тому

    But, America also funds universities etc in other countries the same way as China through AID

  • @kcccc5682
    @kcccc5682 12 годин тому +3

    Criticism of Time magazine's choice of Trump as person of the year is somewhat ignorant. Time almost always picks the winner of the US election in an election year. It's not an endorsement. It's just a recognition that that position has huge influence over the world, more than anyone else by a large margin.

    • @HomeFromFarAway
      @HomeFromFarAway 12 годин тому

      time does, however, have some recently questionable journalistic standards

  • @gerardodwyer5908
    @gerardodwyer5908 12 годин тому +5

    Ireland will hold the rotating presidency of the European Union from July to December 2026. 18 months for Israel to remember what political maturity looks like and restore some degree of probity to its self-harmed international reputation.

  • @YWang-vl2zh
    @YWang-vl2zh 3 години тому

    Isn’t it super scary if the Chinese intelligence was so good, that they knew Boris, Sunak and Liz Truss wouldn’t last? So why bother arranging a meeting with Xi 😅
    (To be fair, Boris was probably just Covid)

  • @robertadams4207
    @robertadams4207 8 годин тому +1

    regarding Time magazine: it isn't person of the year, but NEWSMAKER of the year. I think that is why the end up with surprising choices from time to time. They are just looking at who produced the most headlines.

  • @josephk5629
    @josephk5629 13 годин тому +8

    Rory, I whole heartedly agree with you, l loved our queen may she rest in peace, and king really has done amazingly well.

    • @joeDi1960
      @joeDi1960 7 годин тому

      He and especially his Queen are an embarrassment

    • @shehryar_
      @shehryar_ 6 годин тому +2

      @@joeDi1960ah yes, because the heads of state across the pond in recent years have been absolute crown jewels .

  • @supersurf7937
    @supersurf7937 8 годин тому

    One small factual correction for Rory - following the coup in Gabon, the French were NOT kicked out, they're still very much there.

  • @yestedayssolutionstotodays816
    @yestedayssolutionstotodays816 12 годин тому +2

    On the issue of celebrity political candidates, this question has been tackled very recently by your sister podcast ‘the rest is entertainment’ (and no doubt the question refers to this discussion). They proposed Jeremy Clarkson might be the best bet, though admittedly, it was thought he wouldn’t be interested….

  • @CloudhoundCoUk
    @CloudhoundCoUk 14 годин тому +2

    If there is evidence Andrew should be charged and sent for trial.
    If a court of law finds him guilty then a prison sentence is a must.

    • @joeDi1960
      @joeDi1960 7 годин тому

      Our court system where everyone in it swears allegiance to the King, wouldn’t ever allow that. It’s always been one law for the Royals

    • @MaliKamicak
      @MaliKamicak 2 години тому

      ​@@joeDi1960princess anne would say different - google 😉

  • @rainerohler9210
    @rainerohler9210 6 годин тому +1

    Get better, Rory!

  • @WestfaliaStuff
    @WestfaliaStuff 14 годин тому +5

    Let's face it - the UK was leading in the field of intelligence retrieval for many decades. It doesn't come as a surprise that the Chinese (and everybody else that wants to have a say in international affairs) does the same.

    • @PJH13
      @PJH13 14 годин тому

      Intelligence gathering is not the only function of their intelligence service. For example, they harass Chinese dissidents living abroad, and try to coerce them to return to China.

  • @AdamDunebugDunas
    @AdamDunebugDunas 14 годин тому +2

    What numbers is Rory using to state that Lithuanian citizens are richer on average than UK ones? GDP per capita (with or without PPP) has them still decently behind.
    PPP: 62,574 UK - Lith 53,624
    Nominal: 46,344 UK - Lith 22,245

    • @f0rth3l0v30fchr15t
      @f0rth3l0v30fchr15t 12 годин тому

      He may be using a median or modal average rather than an arithmetic mean.

  • @Rachel_M_
    @Rachel_M_ 15 годин тому +7

    Why is everyone acting all shocked that espionage exists?

    • @jimjiminy5836
      @jimjiminy5836 15 годин тому +5

      I thought the world was all fluffy cuddles and chats on the telly with Lorraine Kelly?

    • @jezlawrence720
      @jezlawrence720 14 годин тому +4

      @@Rachel_M_ same reason they were shocked when the snowden files came out.
      People are unbelievably naive, basically.
      Be angry, sure. But shocked and surprised? Please.

    • @Rachel_M_
      @Rachel_M_ 14 годин тому +1

      @@jimjiminy5836 oh yeah. I forgot about that, my bad 😂

  • @geofhayton
    @geofhayton 11 годин тому +1

    16:37 problem is using marginal cost rather than average costs for electricity

  • @jason5811
    @jason5811 5 годин тому

    +1 on the rec for Wide Wide Sea - I picked that up after reading Sides’ “Ghost Soldiers” about the prisoners of the Cabanatuan prison camp and their liberation during WWII which was also excellent. Sides has a real gift for crafting a compelling historical narrative

  • @Alex-lm7cx
    @Alex-lm7cx 6 годин тому

    'Celebrity Jungle' is a much better name.

  • @grimdadminiatures2788
    @grimdadminiatures2788 14 годин тому

    Came through it really well because he didn't have to wait in a nhs waiting list

  • @grimdadminiatures2788
    @grimdadminiatures2788 14 годин тому +3

    Harsh Alistair? Simply untrue you mean

  • @itsmrryan
    @itsmrryan 15 годин тому +3

    Every presidential election year Time picks the winner as Time Person of the Year.

    • @HomeFromFarAway
      @HomeFromFarAway 12 годин тому

      they seem to have a much lower journalistic standard than they try to pretend. did you see the bizzare article about "parental estrangement being caused by youtube channels and tiktok"?

  • @PopularFrontOfJudea
    @PopularFrontOfJudea 14 годин тому +6

    Seriously guys, doing an advert for an energy provider while in COATS is not a great look - I'm shocked at Alastair's non-verbals here! 😂

  • @Rakaamlil
    @Rakaamlil 14 годин тому +5

    I love jews......Israelis.......not so much, Am I half antisemetic ? Or Antisemetic curious?

    • @foldingglint1514
      @foldingglint1514 14 годин тому

      No, not at all. You can dislike Zionists without disliking Jews

    • @HomeFromFarAway
      @HomeFromFarAway 12 годин тому +2

      you're non-practicing

    • @Rakaamlil
      @Rakaamlil 9 годин тому

      @HomeFromFarAway but I'm open!

  • @CW-bw7pv
    @CW-bw7pv 3 години тому

    Congratulations, we made Eastern Europeans richer than ourselves, what? 😂.

  • @lukmaes6290
    @lukmaes6290 10 годин тому

    Andrew is sick of needing attention, whoever gives him that gets his “friendship”

  • @SirWhig-esq.
    @SirWhig-esq. 15 годин тому +10

    The long shadow of the Opium wars, the forced ceding of Hong Kong will always engender a continuation of Chinese resentment and disdain towards Britain.
    [Gisèle Pelicot is Person of the Year]

    • @4x4r974
      @4x4r974 15 годин тому

      Only because the Chinese establishment is some of the most thin-skinned to ever exist. They have institutionalized the narrative they are victims and oppressed (lol). They call it their '100 years of humiliation'.

  • @tahiti1
    @tahiti1 2 години тому

    You listed countries that split apart in reference to Somaliland, but missed out the split of the Rep of Ireland and the UK.

  • @redrev674
    @redrev674 7 годин тому

    Rory has just re-stated what Nigel Farage has been saying on energy for years but because he is establishment with a posh accent it’s acceptable 😂

  • @Mute_Nostril_Agony
    @Mute_Nostril_Agony 7 годин тому

    I wonder if the new Syriam PM found his country is a better or worse state than Keir Starmer did in May? The Syrian people had to put up with chemical weapons and genocide but at last they were spared May, Johnson, Truss and Sunak.

  • @nadyayurukova
    @nadyayurukova 13 годин тому +1

    You look so cold in those jackets inside while advertising Fuse

  • @thegringolife291
    @thegringolife291 9 годин тому +6

    I usually enjoy Rory's takes but the King as person of the year? Really? Winning the birth lottery to live an enormously cossetted lifestyle and finally get a job when you're 73? That entitles you to person of the year? Heaven help us.

  • @KevinPugh-hq8rc
    @KevinPugh-hq8rc 7 годин тому

    Methane is a big issue. From what I remember, the UK could supply 50% of its methane needs simply from digestion of food and human waste. As this methane comes from grown products, by burning this fuel we are simply recycling carbon. We need to remember that metal is not the only thing we can recycle - we can easily recycle carbon.

    • @drscopeify
      @drscopeify 5 годин тому

      The problem is that Methane from by products is contaminated so you need to refine it, that is not good as the cost of refining in the UK is out of the world expensive and it does create pollution. One of the most contaminated air environments in the west is near refining facilities.

  • @harrysmith3860
    @harrysmith3860 11 годин тому

    That fuse energy plug whilst discussing crippling energy costs seems to me a bit distasteful and corporate

  • @johnsimpson8893
    @johnsimpson8893 12 годин тому

    Lithuania did not have the immigration that Britain has had and so has not had it's impoverishing benefit.

  • @locutorest
    @locutorest 11 годин тому +1

    Perhaps you could revisit the unfortunate copy you use to flog fuse. . .

  • @beautyfool9418
    @beautyfool9418 Годину тому

    I can't get Fuse in Texas, where do I get my merch?

  • @erongi233
    @erongi233 11 годин тому +3

    The EU is a work in progress largely funded by Germany. Given the current trajectory of the German economy, which has been denied cheap energy, its future is unclear. The Eastern European countries have not been transformed to high-added-value economies. Economically, they are cheap labour to the bigger economies.

    • @1968Christiaan
      @1968Christiaan 8 годин тому

      No, wrong on all this. Compare our prices in Germany with the UK and we are cheaper and getting cheaper. Poland now has a GDP per capita higher than Greece and the baltics are booming and enjoying not being part of Putin's economic and political contraction.

    • @erongi233
      @erongi233 8 годин тому

      @1968Christiaan you are wrong on all of this. VW and Mercedes are laying off thousands of workers. Czech Republic is a much cheaper source of labour to Germany etc so is Hungary. EU is going bust slowly then very quickly . Russian gas is,or was,lots cheaper than US gas.

  • @くそくらえ-p3n
    @くそくらえ-p3n 12 годин тому

    dont put a 5 min fuze ad in the middle of the podcast its so naked that you're just promoting a product. Thanks!

  • @davidtarbox4210
    @davidtarbox4210 11 годин тому

    Are you SURE the Rothchilds don't run the world? 😂

  • @peterwhimster
    @peterwhimster 6 годин тому

    Why should the UK embrace Ashraf Ghani? He's no Volodimir Zelenski.

  • @mikef5693
    @mikef5693 7 годин тому

    In your introduction plug for your sponsor you say Fuse uses 100% renewable energy. It does not. It uses a mix of energy sources and is merely compliant to the definition is 100% renewable through the purchase of offsets, using a bureaucratic definition here is very disingenuous, it takes credit for doing something that is in fact not being done.Is it a lie? Technically no it is not, but it is surely disingenuous. Could you please alter this statement to be more reflective of the reality of the situation so as to void corporate virtue signalling. Thank you, love the podcast, nice work lads.

  • @willrelf1377
    @willrelf1377 14 годин тому +7

    It’s harsh to label someone who’s pro-Palestinian as an antisemite now? You centrist guys have a lot of apologising to do to Jeremy Corbyn then.

    • @foldingglint1514
      @foldingglint1514 14 годин тому +4

      Exactly, it always was incorrect and the British body politic really owe an apology to Corbyn

    • @HomeFromFarAway
      @HomeFromFarAway 12 годин тому

      using "centerist" as an epithet makes you an extremist. but anyone pretending that judaism equates to zionism is an extremist. Israel is run by a cult and has killed the jewish leaders who would have stopped that cult

    • @adampascoe1084
      @adampascoe1084 12 годин тому

      Corbyn wasn’t only accused of antisemitism because of his pro-Palestinian platform. The UK human rights watchdog, following an investigation, found Labour to be responsible for “unlawful” acts of harassment and discrimination during Corbin’s 4.5 years as party leader.
      The Equality and Human Rights Commission identified serious failings in leadership and inadequate processes for handling anti-semitism complaints. They found 3 breaches by the Labour Party of the Equality Act: political interference in antisemitism complaints, failure to provide adequate training to people handling complaints and harassment. Kier Starmer said “it was a day of shame for the Labour Party”.

    • @HomeFromFarAway
      @HomeFromFarAway 11 годин тому +1

      @adampascoe1084 I will go and look this up. thanks for the details

    • @adampascoe1084
      @adampascoe1084 11 годин тому

      @ for clarity I’m not saying anything about JC’s personal beliefs, he advocates a 2 state solution in Palestine. What these investigations show is that under his leadership these things were evident in the Labour Party.

  • @Loudeboss
    @Loudeboss 8 годин тому

    Supporting Palestine is one thing, but it’s worth exploring the (bad) history of anti-Semitism in Ireland for a fuller perspective.

    • @HbagMbag
      @HbagMbag 5 годин тому

      Present your case if you have one. Ireland is one of the few European countries that never expelled Jews. It may even be alone in this regard. Expulsion of Jews was the MO of the rich and powerful. Your assertion is a deep slander. Shame on you!!

  • @andycrook6508
    @andycrook6508 12 годин тому

    Hard to overlook Amad Diallo for person of the year!

  • @drscopeify
    @drscopeify 5 годин тому

    Israel was attacked by Hamas which is intermingled with civilian population so of course you are going to have war crime elements occur in any war against terrorists that are embedded in civilian population. There is no other way. Israel used to occupy Gaza and had Israeli settlements which were all demolished Israel withdrew one-sided from Gaza in 2005, Israel ended it's occupation of Gaza in 2005 and it was totally under local Palestinian authority rule but Hamas overthrew the PLA and took control of all of Gaza and began it's religious war on Israel
    The attack on Israel lead to some 1000 + civilians being killed in cold blood that is about half the number of Americans died on 911 but Israel is a far far smaller population so the loss of life is extreme. Israel as such had no option but to end up where it is today. There really is no ither path here so Ireland is going after Israel when it knows very well that Israel has no exit path.

  • @janeclark1881
    @janeclark1881 14 годин тому +2

    Interests to declare (1) I'm Jewish & (2) Were I an Israeli citizen I would not vote for the current governing parties. The point about alleged anti-Semitism, about which you both appear to be blind, is double standards. Israel is not judged by the same standard as other states in the Middle East & elsewhere.

    • @SpudNickleson-im7is
      @SpudNickleson-im7is 12 годин тому +3

      So what has Simon Harris done that was anti-semitic? Opposing genocide? Standing up for the rule of law?

    • @HomeFromFarAway
      @HomeFromFarAway 12 годин тому +1

      no, it gets away with much, much worse

  • @stonyman694
    @stonyman694 13 годин тому

    WARNING: This video includes imbedded publicity.

  • @jonathangammond3019
    @jonathangammond3019 7 годин тому

    The Balts are a switched on bunch. And they always have been, it is just the Russians and the Soviets held them back.

  • @cathalwilson7781
    @cathalwilson7781 9 годин тому

    13.11 Correct. Israel declares any criticism of the Israeli government or Netanyahu as being anti-Semitic. This is clearly false. It is not anti-Semitic but a criticism of the policies of the government. Israel should be ashamed of using this trope, which insults those who are/have been victims of real anti-Semitism.

  • @grimdadminiatures2788
    @grimdadminiatures2788 14 годин тому

    Rory they're planning to go even further when that happens it won't matter they closed they're embassy

    • @HomeFromFarAway
      @HomeFromFarAway 12 годин тому

      yes. the curren leadership is basically a messianic cult

  • @kraygus
    @kraygus 13 годин тому +2

    Your fuse adverts are truly shameless.

    • @DavidClimo
      @DavidClimo 4 години тому

      how else do you expect their staff to be paid for the work they do? a lot goes on behind the scenes, editors, sound engineers, social media managers, they all deserve to be paid too.
      At least their promoting an organisation that is trying to do genuine good, its a free show you can suck up some ads

  • @Chris.Hutch55
    @Chris.Hutch55 8 годин тому

    Patriot - Read and yes, it is worth a read.

  • @Bruh-vp6qf
    @Bruh-vp6qf 7 годин тому

    Disgusting ad read for fuse in the middle of that. Separated sponsored ad breaks are fine, it is clear what they are. The middle fuse ad read really devalues your integrity

  • @jasonhaven7170
    @jasonhaven7170 11 годин тому

    BSW is at 5% in the polls

    • @1968Christiaan
      @1968Christiaan 8 годин тому

      - her popularity is very regional, based in the non-urban East. Makes her profile bigger due to the federal system here.

  • @escatel6889
    @escatel6889 13 годин тому

    Rory, have you been burning the candle at both ends, mate?

  • @Morgalucci
    @Morgalucci 14 годин тому

    On the Time PotY thing, since FDR the US president has always won the award, usually when they get elected. In fact, in every single election year since 2000 the winning candidate won.
    It's not an endorsement of Trump, it's just a lame tradition.

  • @TonyWalsh
    @TonyWalsh 9 годин тому

    Its a bit of a time suck - when you release the Video - and Podcast of the same presentation - but posted at - different times with - different titles - and with an edited start - as with this one 🤔

  • @geo24793
    @geo24793 12 годин тому

    19:04 much like the virtual water trade!

  • @SFRZRD
    @SFRZRD 6 годин тому

    I’m sick of hearing about Fuse

  • @rewIndustry
    @rewIndustry 8 годин тому

    i like how cold you both look, advertising fuse.

  • @JenFowler
    @JenFowler 12 годин тому

    How funny . . Ad b4 the show was for Chinese Theatre . . Uncanny 😊

  • @Celeste2526-2me
    @Celeste2526-2me 14 годин тому

    Alistair,
    If you live in France and chose Gisèle Pelicot as your personality of the year, you could at least try and pronounce her Christian name right. It's with a soft G not a hard one as in German.

  • @bernardcollier1226
    @bernardcollier1226 13 годин тому

    The rest is entertainment already polled this. Martin Lewis for the centre left

  • @Evemeister12
    @Evemeister12 8 годин тому

    Spying is only okay when pur side does it

  • @steveclark3457
    @steveclark3457 8 годин тому

    You only have to fart in the wrong direction to be called anti-Semitic

  • @suecole7338
    @suecole7338 12 годин тому

    Huawei rolled out 5G technology across the UK!

  • @ehfoss
    @ehfoss 14 годин тому

    MON for POTY.

  • @FRM101
    @FRM101 14 годин тому

    they're the same, as Rory well knows (18:39)

  • @myvirtualpresencefyi
    @myvirtualpresencefyi 6 годин тому

    "The King" 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

  • @xiaoranmo7308
    @xiaoranmo7308 14 годин тому +1

    21:08 richer than average person in Britain. What kind of horse shit u talking about? Which former Soviet block country richer than British?

    • @foldingglint1514
      @foldingglint1514 14 годин тому +2

      Britain, ignoring London, is poorer Mississippi for gods sake we aren’t a wealthy country

    • @xiaoranmo7308
      @xiaoranmo7308 14 годин тому +1

      @ I know that, I know majority Europe nation in GDP per capita term r lower than US state. But not lower than richest Eastern European countries

    • @foldingglint1514
      @foldingglint1514 13 годин тому +2

      @@xiaoranmo7308 gpd doesn’t account for actual purchasing power, they probably are better off honestly

    • @HomeFromFarAway
      @HomeFromFarAway 12 годин тому

      manners matter. also, he specified Latvia, which has a massive IT sector now. you can go look it up instead of insulting the messenger

    • @xiaoranmo7308
      @xiaoranmo7308 12 годин тому

      @ not really a insult more like common sense Latvia gdp per capita is around 25k significant lower than UK.

  • @matchfactoryman
    @matchfactoryman 14 годин тому +2

    Who would have predicated that out sourcing all of a countries manufacturing capacity to China, India and anyone else prepared to produce down to a price would come back to bight us.
    The global economy at its finest.

  • @marijo1951
    @marijo1951 14 годин тому +1

    I realised that Nigel Farage has real celebrity status with some people when I saw a married couple interviewed in Clacton before the election, who said they had a cardboard cutout of Farage permanently seated at their dining table.

    • @HektorBandimar
      @HektorBandimar 13 годин тому

      Farage is allegedly an agent for certain oligarchs who want elected right wing puppets put in place to run countries, so that they can then really rule the world.

    • @seanfaherty
      @seanfaherty 13 годин тому

      Mosleyites

  • @thebirddimension7391
    @thebirddimension7391 12 годин тому +1

    Jesus christ... can you sell out anymore? Please stop parroting whatever sponsor pays you most and get back to dissecting events with integrity and passion.

  • @Jakeyboii91
    @Jakeyboii91 14 годин тому +5

    King person of the year 😂😂. Might be the most embarrassing thing anyone has ever said. What an absolute bootlicker.

    • @post2memrg
      @post2memrg 10 годин тому

      Thank christ someone else agrees with me.

  • @joeDi1960
    @joeDi1960 7 годин тому

    Omg Rory, the King and Queen are a real embarrassment to the UK, no one takes them seriously

  • @moniruzzamankhan8218
    @moniruzzamankhan8218 2 години тому

    Load of BS.

  • @DamonClarke-g1f
    @DamonClarke-g1f 15 годин тому +4

    So Brits are supposed to be net contributors and stay in the EU to make Estonians wealthier than Brits. 😂 How on earth did you lose? #RemoanerLogic

    • @PJH13
      @PJH13 15 годин тому +2

      Estonia's in the New Hanseatic League - they were one of the countries less-inclined towards excessive EU budgets, and were frequently one of the countries most supportive of the UK's positions, when we were members.

    • @PMMagro
      @PMMagro 14 годин тому +1

      The UK is living in and to much stuck in the past. Estonia on the contrary is looking ahead and improving fast. It is not about the EU really.
      Iceland outside the EU is getting back on track. So could you. It seems to me it is much easier to turn around a small country for some reason.

    • @DamonClarke-g1f
      @DamonClarke-g1f 14 годин тому +3

      @PMMagro with political will yes. Alas our self serving political class are not Democrats.

    • @Morgalucci
      @Morgalucci 14 годин тому

      So you think our allies escaping poverty is a bad result for the UK? Are you brain dead?

    • @martavdz4972
      @martavdz4972 14 годин тому +2

      Did you actually bother to find out anything about Estonia's economy and people? And about the personal wealth of people in countries who stayed in the EU? Estonians and Finns have the biggest sense of personal responsibility of all the nations I've met. Incredibly tough, hard-working, inventive and efficient. They didn't get better off by waiting with their hands outstretched. Also, this says more about the British economy than about the post-Communist ones. I'm Czech and believe me, we're worse off than Germans, Danes, Belgians and other such EU nations.

  • @jillal-fuhaid1763
    @jillal-fuhaid1763 12 годин тому +1

    Only 2 toothy grimaces from Rory this time. Well done! ❤️

  • @HomeFromFarAway
    @HomeFromFarAway 12 годин тому

    I would send a farage card to my friend just to watch their facial expressions when they open the envelope 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @specialized500
    @specialized500 12 годин тому +3

    The King !!! 😂😂😂

  • @FRM101
    @FRM101 14 годин тому +1

    thank the disastrous push toward net zero for that (15:20)

    • @adampascoe1084
      @adampascoe1084 12 годин тому

      Not enough noise is being made about this. The UK is paying lip service to climate targets that will have zero effect on global CO2, yet 8% of the average household bill (£200 per annum) is made up of Green Levies. Between 2012 and 2027 Drax power station will have received £11billion in subsidies (renewables obligation certificates) and yet they are burning primary forest!!!
      The British public are being charged to meet nonsensical climate targets which is contributing to the already crippling cost of living. Car tax is going up, water bills are going up, energy bills are going up and yet we outsource our CO2 production to China, India and Africa. As families are having to choose between heating or food, when will we say “enough is enough?”

  • @post2memrg
    @post2memrg 10 годин тому

    FFS! Rory, the King, surely, you are high.

  • @stonyman694
    @stonyman694 14 годин тому

    Looks like two old rappers trying to make a buck promoting energy companies. Also economising on expense by wrapping up.

  • @susanstein6604
    @susanstein6604 15 годин тому +2

    Neither of you have the knowledge to decide what’s antisemitic and what isn’t. Should Israel have closed its embassy in Ireland? That’s a different question.
    Is criticizing the current Israeli government antisemitic? Not automatically but it can be.

    • @jezlawrence720
      @jezlawrence720 15 годин тому

      In that case noone can, because you cannot tell what is my heart when I say the Israeli government is monstrous.
      Do I think Israelis, or for that matter, Jews, are monstrous? No, I absolutely don't. But from my simple statement you can't determine that.
      We all have to be able to talk about what is and isn't prejudice. Otherwise you end up with an appeal to authority to define what a whole group feel and think.... And THAT would be anti semetic.
      People are individuals. Governments are organisms.
      And the Israeli government acts like any criticism of them is anti semetic even though they have literally millions of citizens who are not Jewish. That is the most racist thing of all and we must be able to call it out.

    • @jackkidd7350
      @jackkidd7350 15 годин тому +5

      No one can seem to decide what antisemitism is at this point is Ireland or the un antisemitic at this point what was once a damming accusation is now just a word that gets thrown around like it has no meaning

    • @redemptivepete
      @redemptivepete 14 годин тому +1

      ​@@jackkidd7350 And I'm afraid (because of the potential consequences) that there's a law of diminishing returns!

    • @foldingglint1514
      @foldingglint1514 14 годин тому +1

      No Susan, criticising the government isn’t anti-semetic at all, it’s anti-civilian murder.

    • @HomeFromFarAway
      @HomeFromFarAway 12 годин тому

      it seems any criticism of israel is deemed antisemitic, and criticising that lazy epithet is then also antisemitic. zionism is a noxious cult and does all the things on the cult checklist