Leeds United movie archive - Don Revie & Brian Clough Television Studio Clash 1974
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- Опубліковано 30 бер 2009
- September 1974 Don Revie & Brian Clough meet face to face in the Yorkshire T.V.Studios on the day Clough is sacked by Leeds United after 44 Days
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The damned United brought me here...
Brilliant stuff!!
me too, just watched it.
One of the best films.
Fucking brilliant performance
Great film indeed. I think it misrepresents this interview though. The film version is a lot nastier and more confrontational. In the real interview, Clough and Revie at least showed each other quite a lot of respect.
Same watched it last night
Credit to them both for having a honest chat. Mangers these days wouldn’t speak so freely.
That's because coaches these days have mostly all been media trained... but at the height of their rivalry i would have loved to see Guardiola & Mourinho having a chat.
It's because there not manager's any more there head coaches.
"Well I can only lose 3." and he did in 1977-78 then won two european cups. Cloughie the legend!
I wouldn't say Cloughie was the greatest manager in the game, but he was in the top 1 !!
Clive Bindley Just quoting a famous Brian Clough quote, that’s all!🙄
Clive Bindley I take it you’re not a fan🤔!
Its always better when if you can to take their no please I won't. You can tho'. Take it like that, one eye is better than 2. Ask any old trout. Mourinot 2020!!!! You very like pisshead? No!
@@CB-xr1eg but he did win everything
Took a bung
Cloughie was such an interesting man. So articulate and a complete footballing mastermind. Sheen’s performance in The Damned United was absolutely incredible. Uncanny. Possibly the greatest performance in any biopic film, ever.
Bit of a stretch..
but wasnt an accurate story
Tom Mulchinock agreed. They certainly added some drama.
100%
@@paulneilguru3599 what is, your mother?
Clough had won zero European Cups in '74. Neither of them had. Guy went on to win TWO. Clough had BALLS.
And Leeds never did.
@@stephenreeds3632 They should have won the 1975 European Cup but they got robbed
'Good lad' 😂
'"good lad" indeed , class! "for missing the target from there you want bloody shooting" .
People talking about Mourinho being the special one. No mates, we are looking at the original Special One. Brian Clough. I am a fan of Jose, but in Cloughie would eat him alive in mind games. What a legend.
WhatisallaboutAlfie Agreed Cloughie was a legend and yes he would have Jose for breakfast.
+WhatisallaboutAlfie he's a clown in this video, Revie comes off so much better
but who won the champion league with no budget and he won it 2 year in a row wht did revie do after winning the league
Andrew Wright, I think you mean "What did Don Revie do after winning the league for the third time?" Third. Clough never won a third championship. And there was no Champions League in his day, either. It was the European Cup, where the actual champions played for the silverware, not the teams finishing in the top four.
Raphael Merriman Clough had ok players but Leeds had world class players Clough won the European cup 2 times in a row with a ok squad noone will ever do that again
In the movie they have portrayed Clough as an insecure man and full of spite.
In this interview he is so confident with full belief in himself.
Watched it last night.
I believe they showed him in private. With his losses at the time, it was logical for him to be that insecure in private.
But in public, oh, in public. A man who had the vote of confidence from the only man who he needed it from. Himself.
"Also Don, the disciplinary chart. You topped that" love that bit :)
And what's this entertainment chart? Who decides? Could only be Leeds fans. Disciplinary is another matter. They were nasty, brutish and thank God their reign was short.
Amazing that they both lived in the same council estate in Middlesbrough.
They didn't.
Clough lived on Valley Road and Revie lived near Ayresome Park..
Clough was from the Grove Hill estate in Boro, Revie was from the Ayresome estate near the old Boro ground Ayresome park. About a 10 minute walk from each other.
You would NEVER see two managers getting together debating like this in modern day football. utterly classic !!
You mean like Wenger and Ferguson did???
@@jamesbarry9477 What, after they retired??
Clough and Revie were doing this still managing, James.
@@ralphcifaretto1 Yes they did it in 2012
Love how clough is constantly trying to make eye contact while Don looks away
Says everything about the two men
I think Don had already been so wound up by Clough by this point that he couldn't even bear to look at him. 😂
One of the most fascinating interviews I have ever seen, and ever will be!!!
Brian was such a personality no matter if you agree with him or not. He’s such a personality, you can’t help but to pay attention to whatever he says, wether you agree or not. Hated, adored but never ignored.
RIP Brian (1935-2004) and Don (1927-1987)
Hands down this is my favourite football discussion ever. Not just this bit but the entire interview. It is refreshingly honest and the two managers are being totally themselves. There are no sound bites, pr exercises, media savvy posturing, just two football managers doing their best to be civil and have it out with each other. Like Clough Revie too was a total legend, but Clough was a brilliant orator and he got his points across in the most entertaining way. Best of all these two managers were both being themselves.
I have watched this interview dozens of times over the years and it always captivates me and brings me back in time to another era and a more 'innocent' way of football. Although football was much rougher back then, and tackling could be downright evil, there was an honesty and innocence about the game before it became over commercialised and all the money and PR firms stepped in.
Honesty? With bungs, attempted bribery etc. No, not honest at all.
Same here 😂😂😂😂😂… two ego’s that achieved meeting in the middle. Classic…
@@stephenreeds3632 the fact that you think that does’nt still happen now is 😂😂😂😂. We just had a winter world cup in a country that stones people to death and another one with crazy dictator that kills journalist. The FA is run by the same grey old white men just like it used to be so I’m not sure what it is you think has changed other than the presentation
Sport is and will always be a little shady given the amount of money that it generates.
Notwithstanding his achievements, you always felt there was something psychotic about Cloughie. Could you imagine Klopp chopping up Guardiola's desk?
@@ralphlangstaff727That incident was fictitious.
Somewhere up in Heaven these two will still be arguing haha
In heaven? 🤣
@@MM-jf7yn ???????
lol
''It wasn't 100% right the discipline''
''No, no, you were the top''
LOL always gets me.
I'm a Leeds fan but got so much time for Brian Clough. Wonderful manager
Im a yank from Texas, but god knows how much I love Brian Clough's personality
Brian Clough politely listens to Revie's attack, then blows him away at 1:15.
"Also Don, the disciplinary chart. You topped that" Classic mid speech knock down!
Revie was a legend at Leeds, and Clough was just a legend. i refuse to take sides!
Leeds' culture for being dirty winners continued right up the early 2000s, then they were just dirty losers, now you're lucky if anyone remembers they were dirty. Damned Utd? They're the Forgotten Utd now.
Legendary masseur
Same, but it's unfair that Revie is painted as a villain and a failure with England which I don't think he was.
@@r4h4al He won a couple of leagues, an FA cup and a league cup with a massive football club. Clough won two European cups, two leagues and four league cups across spells at two middle of the road sides. There's no comparison.
@@BerghemDeSura There is a comparison and Revie was better.
This is when off the pitch football entertainment started, just a pity there aren't any Brian Cloughs around anymore, he didn't beat around the bush,at least he told it as it was. Don Revie had finished in football before I started following football, so I don't know to much about him, but reading on Wiki he died from Motor Neurone disease which is a horrible way to go,I had a friend die from it a few years back. RIP to Brian and Don.
Revue was a v strange man. His attitude to football was v attritional. The Leeds side that he built had a horrible way of playing because Revie built a fortress mentality with no reason to. That's where the hatred for them came from not because they were that successful. Because compared to Liverpool they simply weren't. They stained football.
Fantastic debate between 2 of the greatest men of English football. Don Revie's Leeds United produced so much of the best post-war football. Arrogance/belligerence/class!!!
Humped by Celtic! Jock Stein.
Cloughie was the man.
My favourite manager ever.
Totally unique man.
The most immersive and spectacular conversations I’ve ever listened to. Just fantastic.
Now, that's quite a character. Two legends.
Despite this, in the end, Clough's managerial record eclipses Revie's.
To be fair, you have to have respect for Revie here, his answers are succinct and respectful. I get the feeling that if these two had spent more time with each other they could have been good friends. Two great managers.
But revie sold English football out, clough never did.
@@paulthrutner9114 how?
Revie impressed me here more than Clough. Clough looks like a bit of a loose cannon and Review more like a statesman. Having said that - 2 European cups speaks for itself.
@@marvaff6878Scarpering during a WC qualifying campaign after plotting a move to the UAE for big money. (Ron Greenwod almost got England through. Revie spent the rest of his career in the Mideast before succumbing to motor neurone disease.)
I agree. They really have respect for each other.
Think of the hours spent summarising PL games. 5 minutes from 45 years ago yet more honest and insightful.
Fascinating 1970's interview. I was there for it at the time, and this interview brings it all back.
“Good lad”!!!
Both from Middlesbrough, who never managed Middlesbrough FC. Boro would've probably won something under them two.
I doubt it , they will never win fuck all
@@martinworld7214 carling Cup counts. We've won that 😂
Jack Ford I’ll give you that I guess :)
Brian Clough was a genius.
this is fascinating, and shows the different approach the media had back then. can you imagine wenger and fergie or moyes or benitez doing an interview like this?
It was a great interview from 2 legends of English football
I'm a Leeds fan and both gentlemen in this video were among the best managers ever. I wish that Clough had been given a chance at Leeds
great interview, in sheer contrast to Lineker's dullness
lineker is not dull.despite his voice.He has a nice way with him,
keith graham dumbass replying to a 7 year old comment lol
Garl Vinland
Maybe he was thinking it over
@@wattsits123 But politically annoying, and sanctimonious for a rich bastard.
This is so wholesome, best discussion/debate I've ever seen
I love how Clough says Good Lad at 3:13. Just watched the Damned United with Michael Sheen. He was great as Clough. Really enjoyed the dvd extras with the player and fan interviews and experiences. Good stuff.
They are legends...Thanks God that they lived and they made sensational work în Football.
When two worlds collide. The irresistible force meets the immovable object.
Clough = legend. Revie = legend. Nuff said.
Revie = Bent and corrupt
It was Bob Stokoe who was bent and corrupt
clough was never boring.always interesting listening to him
Just two Middlesbrough lads having a good old chinwag.
"Also Don, the disciplinary chart - you topped that". That has to be one of the finest 'mid flow stops' done. Ever. Top class!
Didn't know there was 'an entertainment chart'. Revie's massive insecurity again.
Good interviewer as well. Lineker would need it all typed out for him on the autocue.
bloody hell this is great
Just saying, Clough was introduced in English football hall of fame 2 years before Don Revie
They were both Middlesbrough born and bred as well. Don Revie grew up only a few streets away from Brian.
And who's the most remembered manager out of these two now? Old Big Head.
Two legendary managers in their own way. No lets have a modern interview involving Mourniho and Wenger
Raj Nirvan I hate to say it but Wenger would eat Jose alive. Jose was all mouth and like Cloughie backed up what he said but Wenger was quiet, patient and watched everything going on, taking everything in and he would wait to take his shots at the right time. Cloughie vs Wenger would’ve been interesting though, that would’ve been a proper battle of words. Like Revie though, Wenger is a legend at one club. Cloughies just a legend
Jose always had the more expensive squad while robbing Wengers signings by inflation.
Jose had a billion air buying the world with the full market under his whim, if he didn't win anything he would have been a failure, look at him now with the financial gap vanishing, he can't buy out the league any more, Man City can do that while playing real football.
@@Bennett2142 Jose won the Champions League with Porto. Wenger never won it.
oh they are both legends, amazing, amazing men, love them both to bits
Clough would've sorted out the FA and the England team at the same time and gone on to lift the World Cup.
Well said.
But he wouldn't, his big mouth would have upset the FA hierarchy and opposing international managers. He didn't deserve the England job.
@@CB-xr1eg I think he deserved a chance. But I don't go along with this steadfast belief of some that he'd definitely have done something big with England. Plenty of other successful club managers have tried and failed.
Always click on this if I see it in my suggestions, love it
What Cloughie achieved at Forest is the greatest ever football story ever, Greatest !!
Damn, Colm Meaney is this guy's twin.
So we’ll cast
“Well I could only lose 3” 😂👌🏻
What Clough didn't know, and what Revie clearly forgot, was that when Leeds won the league for the first time, 68/69 they only lost twice!
The ultimate legendary showdown with clough & Revie! Brilliant, old big head clough and the super Revie
''you can take all your medals , trophies , pots and pans and throw them in the nearest bin coz you haven't won any of them fairly'' clough knew the score!!
"Theres only one Don Revie!"
But to reiterate what the previos poster said, yes, it would be a grand ol day to see Ferguson and Benitez go at it like this.
We can get that Special 1 puppet to host.
"Be champions."
"Good lad"
Owned.
Watching the move now on TV. These performances are amazing.
This got blown out of proportion in the film. Turns out to be a entertaining decent debate between two polarizing figures.
When Brian Clough was manager at Forest he won the European Cup twice as many times as the top League Division One
From1964/5-1973/4 the only team to finish in the Top 4 for 10 consecutive seasons was Leeds,then Liverpool (6) Man Utd (4). They also amassed the most league points in Div One between 1964/5-1976/77 (13 seasons) totalling 722 points to Liverpool's 716 and Everton's 601. When it was 2 points for a win meaning they were 60 wins better than the third placed side for this period.
Clough was good but his teams were never as consistant as Dons-And don't forget Don rebuilt the team at Leeds 3 times
I don't want to say this is the best UA-cam video ever...but it's in the top one.
That cheeky smile at the end, love it
Clough was doomed from the start only chance was if he had managed to bring Taylor with him.
Taylor knew better than to go Leeds. Clough was doomed the minute he walked into the club.
Don Revie was a great manager.
The way the team played is another way to play football. You can play all the fancy football you want but nothing intimidated the opponents as much as good physical football.
Leeds were a physically daunting side but also played intelligent football when you look at the standards of footballing at the time
agree.. they were a truly great side.
Two great outspoken characters. I've never liked Leeds, but did admire them ( there is a difference). Can you imagine any of the 'top' managers appearing a similar interview situation today?!
That look that revie gives clough when he says "I didn't know them intimately" .
There can be no doubt that Clough did respect Revie.
Both absolute legends.
yes - that is obvious from this interview. Clough is all over Revie - hanging on every word.
Two managers no longer with us.
One played the game how it should be played and achieved legendary status.
The other.... Don Revie
One rebuilt a team and kept them at the top for 10 years.
The other...Big Mouth Clough.
Clive Bindley
Yes...top of the disciplinary charts 😉
You probably don't know what the disciplinary charts are, you heard Clough say it in this discussion and you're parrotting it.
Two legends from the mighty boro
Clive Bindley
Leeds could play great skilful football at times, but they had a cynical dirty side to them. Fact.
He also thought the lure of a bag of gold from the UAE was more appealing than managing his own national team.
Two reasons, in my opinion, that Don Revie will never classed as a true legend of the game....except perhaps among the Leeds faithful.
I don't really follow football but I do like film and yes, the Damned United brought me here
The Damned United was a fantastic film, portraying what happened between these two great managers 😊
Great film. Michael Sheen and Colm Meaney were awesome the way they played their respective managers
@@rajnirvan3336 they were 😊 they were very similar 😊
“Good lad!”
Clough and Taylor were a genius combo at taking players who'd won nothing, and moulding them into winners brimming with self-belief. Totally the opposite of what was required when he tried to take over at Leeds.
Because the the Leeds players were already winners and brimming with self belief. They were League Champions and had been the best team in England for nearly 10 years. But he slagged them all off to their faces. No wonder they got him the sack.
Fantastic ! 2 great managers.
This is incredible.
clough is a great manager obvs with taylor . but I think as a leeds fan back then they should of gave him 2/3 seasons and let him change the squad and I think we would of won the European cup . two great managers here god bless them both . REVIE WHAT A LEGEND HE WAS FOR LEEDS !
Daniel Storey You probably should *have* spent 2 or 3 more seasons in school, then you would *have* leant proper English
+Stephen Draffin has about piss off
I remember Leeds back in the day, they were a bunch of dirty hacking bastards
How could Clough have been allowed 2/3 years at Leeds? He'd been slagging them off in the media for years and insulted them all to their faces. They were never going to perform for someone who did that..The Leeds board at that time were utter cunts for hiring him and not giving John Giles the managers job.
I guess they beat your team regularly then. hahaha...bitter much?
Don't know much about English football in the 70s but this is top notch viewing. A shame TV stations can't run interviews and conversations like this now. These days football commentators and interviewers think they are as important as the players and managers. Most interviews are either about scoring a 'gotcha', luring out a controversial statement or creating a headline. The best interviewers know when to shut up and let their subjects speak, as this bloke did.
amazing blast from the past
Revie and Clough two of englands finest. Both from Middlesbrough!
so similar in the damned united!
Seriously? The interview in the film does a massive disservice to the real thing!
If you could combine these two greats into one manager you would have the greatest manager ever ....... Or Gollum.
You already have the best manager ever in the video. He's the one in the grey suit.
And I have no connection with any of his clubs.
I am not a big football / soccer fan at all. However, this is one of the most interesting and revealling peices of TV. An example of two men with big ego's, high standards and similar backgrounds clashing. Great stuff.
I couldnt have said it better, spot on!!!!
Gary Lineker the original Alan Partridge
😁
More like the original FA Cup
Pipe to pipe bushman
Revie is one of the greatest managers to walk this earth.
darknesox7 ironically I agree on that statement just about Clough not revie
Clough was better tho, Leeds were a dirty side .
Anthony Helm so what ? They won trophies
darknesox7 Cloghie was a better manager and better man
I wish football was still like this.
Also Don, the disciplinary chart. You topped that. - completely knocked him off his stride and the interview changed course. Owned!
Interviewer desperately trying to start an argument - it's like the "War" sketch from the satirical show "The Day Today"
Add 2 jolly large egos.
@OutlawdPipes - Fool - Revie had done it all before this interview - he'd been the Manager of the most successful club side in Britain for the last 10 years
I think jock stein's Celtic team had been Britain's best team over the previous decade.
Great video.
I love his honesty
Never mind the revisionist crap. Two great football men at opposite ends of the spectrum. Flawed geniuses but genius all the same!
Clough to lower smaller teams to the highest biggest prizes in football, very special together. Clough/Taylor are unique no others can or have had the ability to go to any club and make them Champions within a couple of years. If England had them they would of won World cup with them, it would of been Clough/Taylor picking the team from clubs who they wanted, then making the team winners. They only had a small budget at Derby and Forest but they did it, if they had so much choice as England managers they would of produced the greatest England team ever seen. Forest Euro Champions 2 years in a row, from nowhere they were best in europe for 2 years. England would of been best in the world at least once maybe twice with them.
England have since since 1966 been total losers, the biggest travesty in English football history is not giving the job to Clough, he was then and no one ever since the only man who may have done something, the reason he never gotthe job, England like nice "yes" men, and not sure of your age, but in the disasterous world cup of 1970, when asked what he'd do, he said I'd drop 11 players and start again, he was too radical for English football, but by god he would have changed things
England would of won the world cup perhaps twice in a row with the very very special legends that are Clough and Taylor. The two of them would win the world cup with the inexperienced and rather shit looking squad we got for 2014 World cup. Nothing has touched the brilliance of Clough and Taylor but the FA never wanted them but they did want Keegan, Hoddle and McLaren who just scream failure at worst mediocre at best. FA is still a bunch of motherfucking old school board types from the 1960's they should let the Manager who is the best be England's Manager not middle of the road quarter final sorts like we have had. Massive respect to Bobby Robson he offered to let clough step in but FA said no way. Sir Bobby was worth calling a good manager for 1990 Italy.
InTheArchivesAgain Couldn't agree more, and I don't even like the Land of Eng. The problem continues to this day in player development as well now. Can't wait to see the English melt in the Amazon in the World Cup Finals. Hopeless really.
Johnny Canucklehead Feelings mutual
***** You don't like your own nation? Well, get on a plane and head to China, Korea or Japan--go make some dough and pay low taxes. With the Interwebs, you can still follow your teams easily live or archived. Beats being depressed in the gray of the Land of Eng.
I was surprised watching this. Don Revie won this argument, hands-down. I'd heard about this little fight and I assumed Clough ripped Revie a new one, but he didn't. Interesting.
wow love this vid both of them fighting!!!!!!