How i Seal Foam + Drytime "Hack" and Non Cracking Paint Test
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- yes yes another video about sealing foam, plenty of them around but still this question remains in the top 3 of questions asked!
So here is my version of it plus some added tricks for drying times, removing wrinkles and a non cracking paint test.
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Thanks for the super helpful video Wayne! :D your effort is appreciated ^^ can't wait for the next video
Really good info!! Will likely change my approach based on this video
So you clearly say no spray cans for paint, but how well does plastidip perform to your experience? I have always used that for armor and I still love it. However, if the acrylic medium is really so much better I may consider changing it up. I started watching your videos because you did a review of the Cosbond stuff that I just saw on tntcosplaysupply.com and I must admit I like your content and your relatively simple "easy to use/cheap" philosophy for most of your crafting. You've got yourself a new sub. Keep up the great work.
Also, is there an american equivalent that you know of to your All-round Medium? All of the research I have done shows it to be a European product and thus pretty expensive to purchase and ship. Is this basically the same stuff as acrylic art medium that you can buy at Craft stores? If you is please let me know as I really do like the looks of this method a lot and would love to try it.
Thanks for the video. Where would you rank Mod Podge in all of this?
You are great. Thank you so much, I was struggling with some of the very issues you addressed. Blessings on your work.
Hi Wayne, this was a super helpful vid! Would you recommend sealing the foam again after painting it? Like a clear top coat/varnish type of thing? I'm concerned about pigments rubbing off onto clothing or other props
Depends on the paint, I've seen it get done right, but I've also seen it not spread out easy and form droplets, think of water on a waxed car sorta thing, where it doesn't spread but accumulate. I tend to just hit it with a thin layer of clear coat from a rattle can
@@Costronica Cool, thanks!
That's awesome. I actually have some art medium from a totally different project I need to try this out!
very informative- thank you, Wayne :)
Awesome video! You told me about Art Medium at Campzone, I'm currently using it for my next armor project. I bought the one you linked in the dutch video about sealers. Do you prefer to use the Allround Medium from this vid, or do you think the other Art Medium is also still a good sealer?
And I was wondering, I just put the Art Medium on my foam without thinning it down with water. Do you thin it down because you will get less brush strokes, or is there another reason? I'm using a cheap foundation brush to apply it, so I get minimal brush strokes. I liked it better than the foam brushes.
When I'm showing my armor project to the world I'm definitely going to credit you! ;D It was such a great advice.
Alana van den Berg I haven't found any difference in the 2 brands. Only reason I went to all round is because they had the 5liter can and art had not. I don't even use brushes but a sprayer on my compressor but I felt that would not be good for the video 😂 will look for a foundation brush though.
Hey Wayne , love the video's keep up the great work , can you tell me do you prime your pieces as well as seal them ?
Thanks .
Hey Wayne do you have a link for the allround bond? I'm not finding anything that looks like that jug.
I have old armor with sealed wood glue, but as you told in the video it’s cracked. Is there a way on how to remove the layer and start over with sealing? So I don’t have to throw away my armor
it is possible but will require some work, i managed to do it with old armor at 1 point with a failed piece.
try and get the most stickiest ducttape you can find, rip off a good piece and stick it good on your armor, preferrably on an edge where the armor and sealing ends, and then with all your cosplayer might RIPP that ducttape off.
this should pull off a good chuck of the sealant, sometimes even enough so you can peel off the rest with your hands, if not repeat the ducttape way. i did this method also on the legs of my iron man and it worked fine and my foam didnt rip, still try on a small piece first or check for rips and damages on your armor first since you are pulling stuff. good luck
It seems like flexbond is just repackaged art medium marketed to cosplayers instead of traditional artists? I'm curious to check on the price comparison now.
i know both of them have been around for ages now, cosplay stores just started selling it now, roscos is a brand that offers many products
Im sure glad i found this vid. i was going to use spray paint for a foam project..
Hi good day I want to ask what paint I can use to the Eva Dowell foam after using Flexibond
thanks Wayne, Ill be going out to find some pain medium here in Australia
What brand is the art medium?
Stellar video this was very helpful! Question though, is there something else that’s the same as or has the same flexible qualities as the A-Color All-Round Medium that could be found at Michael’s or something? They obviously sell a lot of gesso and other things there for canvas but I’ve never seen this one and can only find it on one European website.
well this video is now a few years old, but still holds up i guess, i made this video especially for earopeans actually, as we are always watching the USA videos where they link all those wonderfull products we cant get
guess its the reverse now, anywho i know american brands carry it but just call it different, some of my followers tried stuff like "painters medium" after knowing i use allround medium.
when you read the product description it sounds similiar and seems to have the same properties, a quick look on the murican amazon reveals this: "Liquitex Professional Fluid Medium" (white bottle, green label)
they offer it in big buckets but also in small 4oz bottles, try one out is my suggestion, i think its the same stuff, their website also reveals it acts as glue, varnish, mixes well with acryllic paints, dries to a hard flexible surface.
and that pretty much is the same description as the all round medium. if you do manage to try it out, i would love a confirmation that its the same stuff (contact me on social media if you got to try it out. ig: waynes workshop)
Hey Wayne, I've tried your technique and the outcome is awesome, it's just that the separate pieces have a habit of sticking together and pull off the paint and lacquer, do you have any advice on how to discourage them from being so clingy?
clear coat, time and dust
Do you use the built in microphone for the camera or have an additional product to record your voice?
i mounted a rode mic-ro to the side of the camera
So you use airbrush when sealing with All-round medium? Do you use separate airbrush for each task then? I wonder since with sealing you need much more liquid when painting, and then you also have to consider cleaning it using different methods.
i dont use an airbrush for sealing... there are certain (latex) paint sprayers that can be fit for the job but not an airbrush
Ok, I got the wrong idea from on of your comments. So then you mean something like this?
rg-narzedzia.com.pl/62856-thickbox_default/adler-pistolet-lakierniczy-d-1l-hp-promo.jpg
yeah i have a similair one like that. cleaning is hell though, so do it right away
One more question though, what about clear coat? Should I also apply it with airbrush to avoid cracking when bending?
I’m working on a suit of Mandalorian armor and I need a sealer that’s flexible and resistant to both heat and cold Any recommendations?
Very helpful! Thanks a lot :>
helaas heb ik geen goede airbrush dus moet toch altijd met spuitbussen werken, opzich werkt het wel als je delen heb die niet buigen helmen etc
I tried it and my piece is peeling very easy and when i did this folding test the lacquer cracked with it D: where did i miss?
What about mod podge?
A viable option but since it comes in small jars, not really an option for big projects imo, I also thinks it cracks way too easy when compared to no cracking with the medium I use here
did you try without adding water? i think it will not have hard brush strokes that way.
Depends on the size of the project, if you have large surfaces to cover so you'll have a good amount in your cup, eventually that dries a little and brush strokes will appear, atleast in my experience
do you maybe know a shop were i can buy those acrylic paints that you used? Because i have search online but every acrylic paint behaves diffrently when i use it.
Jelte Zandberg I get mine from a local store in the Netherlands but I think eBay does have some sellers for it, and alot of hobby stores carry it in general
well i live in the netherlands myself, but i am just curious which shop i have to go to to buy one myself?
I buy mine at verspaget
Could you also add links to where you bought these? :)
I’m in Canada and can’t find the art medium :/
Can I use two different brand of paint? Will it stick or crack?
Michael Vang never smart to mix 2 brands. Chemical reactions can occur that lead to paint cracking as soon as it contacts one another
Good to know that Flexbond doesn't wrinkle like Plastidip does, I nearly ruined a piece with Plastidip on it when it wrinkled a couple weeks ago. So is there a way you can correct high-spots and imperfections in the Flexbond once it dries? Also, what did you use for filler in the foam-cracks? I tried Flex-Seal, but that stuff is hardly sandable and shrinks, I've had to go over it 2 or 3 more times to finally get the crack leveled-out. :(
good thing about plastidip is that a little heat will fix it again
Where can you buy the allround medium? (I also live in the Netherlands)
if you google "all round medium" its the first link ;) but here it is:
www.cchobby.nl/allround-medium-1000ml
is is the art medium airbrushable?
it sorta is but not recommended, the volume of the airbrush, even with thinned down art medium is a not enough.
i did however do it with a paint gun to a big compressor (you can see that in the overwatch lootbox video) the problem with it is, you use air (duh) to propel it onto your part.
this airflow also acts as a way to dry out your medium faster, so all little bits at the tip of the paint gun gets turned into lumps which in the end lead to clogs.
in a way, the time gained sometimes is spend cleaning the paint gun, which makes it kinda pointless...
currently im sealing my BOB cosplay and opted to seal it by hand for a few layers followed with same plastidip.
long answer but wanted to give all the info ;)
I've been told that automotive spray paint is safe to use for painting flexible pieces of foam armor. However, after ruining, two pieces of armor, I learned this isn't true. Needless to say, I'm vexed. Can you explain why people say this is so? And FURTHERMORE, why do people insist on primer -- Krylon, no less -- but fail to specify what type of primer is acceptable? Does not plastidip (or Flexbond) provide sufficient primer in and of itself?
Razzy 18126 I never primer my parts, the flexbond or all round medium is enough to grab any paint, one could argue you can do it because grey is a good base color. But I just hit it with grey acrylics if needed so it stays flexible. I think this insisting of bad information is because people keep spreading it around, 1 hears it from another, and tells it to 2 more and so on and so on, misinformation is hard to kill
Wayne's Workshop you, good sir, are my daggum HERO, right now! Bless you, sir! Thank you so much for putting the axe on this blasted confusion! I will be very very certain to make that abundantly clear in my own step-by-step walk through of my cosplay build, and I shall credit you. This may be of interest: I've learned that interior paint -- the very same used to paint the walls of the house -- are generally acrylic or latex, both flexible mediums. Even better, you can color match to literally anything you want! And yet, using these as a color coat seems nearly unheard of. This is tragic, in my eyes: spray paint is good if wearing anything sure not to bend, but flexible pieces are doomed. And some people simply cannot afford an airbrush. Spray may get you an even coat, as well, but interior paint can easily be lightly thinned and applied with a foam chip. This hidden gem is ignored and I fully intend to kill this misinformation. All I need is to find a good gloss finish that's flexible other than floor wax and I'll have a definitive what's-what guide on painting foam. I'm not sure if interior paint can be used with an airbrush (thinning mediums I know nothing of) but that custom color option is very hard to ignore. Cheers!
Razzy 18126 add pure latexpigmets to your flexbond or all round medium to tint your prop to your desired end color, helps set the tones
Very useful video, thanks!
Btw, just in case you are still interested in foam brushes, you can get them on amazon, it's where I get mine:
www.amazon.es/gp/product/B001QWWJ32/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Problem with the airbrush is the price of the compressors