Time Stamps in the description. Episode 6 of Roze was pretty good. It had great moments with Ash and Narah. And of course some interesting fanservice. Let me know what your thoughts of the episode.
I am curious why the UFN & Black Knights keeps sending Peace Delegation, while they could've sent a Liberation forces (especially after the Damocles was destroyed) ?
@@spikmaster18 according to the pamphlet was due to the amount of casualties it was projected to take to retake the Hokkaido block. But this seems like a skill issue to me since you have ace pilots, brilliant leaders, and the smartest scientists in the world. Somehow I think they can find a way to take over the area with a small amount of casualties. This explanation is cap.
@MyMediaChops I mean... During Lelouch's leadership, he always throws a lot of soldiers into the meat grinder. Guess you're right, and I've seen the Rozé PV that Layla & Gino will join the fight on Hokkaido (a bit late is okay I think)
Hey in new pv old character will come include glinda knight, leila and akito. And last i suprise see opheus and marybell also alive in this show. Maybe they get power immortal like lelouch
Based on earlier translation, they're referring to discarded data on Geass. Not necessarily from the Geass Order specifically, so that's a phrasing problem. It's more open to interpretation.
I wish they would specify what data on Geass then. Because the only data on Geass that I am aware of is the data C.C. removed from the Geass Order and whatever the OSI had.
@@MyMediaChops Britannia technically had a few sources of such data, possibility-wise. Bartley and the other scientists from the Code R project under Clovis (if I recall correctly, Schneizel had access to some of that in the movie-verse? It's been a while since I watched the recaps), the Geass Order itself, and the OSI as you've stated. Maybe more, but those are the ones that come to mind.
@@bluespaceman7937 Bartley's data was lost in the Geass Order raid. Yeah Schneizel had something but I don't think that would have helped here. That was more on Code R C.C. I think Barley's data was used here because of the obvious Jeremiah and Arnold connection
My question is WHERE THE HELL IS NUNNALLY AND ZERO (aka Suzuku) like didn’t lelouch give the responsibility of making sure peace is intact to him? Can someone pls explain?
It is reasonable that in 5 years things still need to be changed. I know the ending of the original show and the movie was pretty happy, but it's perfectly plausible, even in real life, that the world is still feeling the repercussions of the war and pre war time. Moreover, the Black Knights and the UFN are still subject to the bureaucracy of laws and treaties. They are no longer an extrajudicial force. This is especially true against a nation that is able to cut themselves from the rest of the world, such as Hokkaido in this setting.
I'm asking if Nunnally and Suzaku are dead in every video report/recap I find here on youtube. It makes sense if they are dead because of hoe LL got crazy and hilariously handing out Geass powers like they were candies.
Why do you find it weird that there was bigotry against Britannia's? Everybody hated them! A ruler can't actually stop the whole populace from doing what they want, especially not one who's trying to be benevolent. As long as that orphanage was in an area of mixed nationalities, the resentful ppl would have had plenty of chances to take wrongful revenge on any Britannia orphans. And considering how Britannia colonized many Areas, there's plenty of ways to have an orphanage with many Britannian kids off Britannia soil. Also, data recovery is a thing IRL, and there are plenty of ways in which Data could be considered 'destroyed', but still be recoverable.
I already explained the bigotry issue in the video. In terms of recovering the data, they don't give any details on it which is why I press X to doubt.
I don't know why they are trying to do the SAZ thing again. It has been done 2 times at this point and it made sense within the original series. Euphy and Nunally could pull this off because they were princesses, but Natalia just seems like a secretary to me that basically all of the knights could easily oppose. Also since the rest of Japan isn't occupied and most of the world is part of the UFN wouldn't it be easier to just try and get them out of Hokkaido? Japan is also a recognized nation now right?
It's a little hard to say whether the UNF can send in a force. It is pretty clear that the UNF is meant to be the Code Geass historical version of the UN in our world. If the charter is anything at all similar to the UN, the UNF and the Black Knights, as they are no longer and extrajudicial force but a legitimate party associated with the UNF, may have their hands tied. One possible explanation, of which there are many more is: Depending on when Neo Britannia was formed, they may be recognized as a legitimate nation as they meet many of the requirements. If they formed their nation early enough after the fall of the 'Holy Empire of Britannia' where all of the territories of former Japan were still up in the air so to speak, they may be recognized as a legitimate state. And since they are not trying to colonize other places...yet... the UNF cannot mobilize their force due to their charter. That is just one possible explanation off the top of my head, of course may have to change a bit depending on if we get more about the lore of Code Geass in later episodes. All this to say that while the UNF, and the UN in our world for that matter, may be a good thing on paper and in instances where a world war is happening, like in Code Geass R1 and R2, there is a lot of legal red tape and charter bureaucracy holding them back from doing anything major. The UN doesn't even do well will coup d'etats, which could also be an explanation of why the Code Geass counterpart also doesn't do well here.
They may not have gotten it from Geass order but maybe the Black knights had some along with Cornelia or Schnizel after Lelouch was betrayed they did use it to make Geass counter measures
The difference the og anime had 50 episodes to spread out the fanservice which was only pervasive in maybe 6 of them. But here basically every episode has something. In terms of which series has worse fanservice. I would say this one only because of the frequency and how certain characters only exist for fanservice.
Like i said because the budget to make code geass anime is 25 eps but since the downfall of anime industry most anime just get 12 eps. So story really rush and didn't give proper explanation. About nunaly zero (suzaku). And relation betweeen ash and sarah. They must use fanservice and cool mecha to keep up. That sad fact
Lelouch’s plan worked for the most part, but it still doesn’t erase the past actions of Britannia and wont completely stop some people to continue harboring deep hatred for them. Like in Narah situation. The whole point of Zero Requirem isn’t to bring about eternal peace but to create a new era and future past the old one. Which he succeeded.
The problem for me is not that people still didn't like Britanians after the Zero Requiem but rather that enough people were legally allowed to take revenge against them. Where the hell are the police and the governments?
@@MyMediaChops Britannia had terrorized the world. Some governments would overlook it due to how terrible Britannia was. The grudges against Britannia won’t disappear and now that it’s fallen, some people will want to take their revenge. I don’t think this was legally done . It could have been happening behind closed doors like in Narah’s case. From her point of view at least .
Yeah because some of japanese people still hate britania so they bully britania people. That why neo britania is form. But their action is harsh to and repeat same mistake in past. Sadly lelouch peace didn't stand long. Where the hell schneizel and nunaly to help the peace?
@@MyMediaChops The bulk of the prejudice against the Britanians in Hokkaido, which Narah Vaughn experienced and is trying to fight against, likely occurred right after or shortly after the Zero Requiem occurred. As much as it was a plan that the audience was privy to, to the rest of the world for all intents and purposes they just believed that Britanian lost and wanted revenge for their years of subjugation. While the power was transitioning from a fleeing Britanian back to the Japanese government, it is plausible and likely that a lot of people's hate crimes fell through the cracks. Moreover, the national resentment that remained probably resulted in civil servants 'turning a blind eye' to these events. It's something you see a lot in the history of previously colonized nations.
I don’t think it’s a openly topic of racism towards the Brit’s but considering how it’s still very recent history with a lot of bad blood people hating the Brit’s because of recent history was bound to be a thing
Time Stamps in the description.
Episode 6 of Roze was pretty good.
It had great moments with Ash and Narah.
And of course some interesting fanservice.
Let me know what your thoughts of the episode.
i enjoyed it especially the twist regarding ash great episode overall
I am curious why the UFN & Black Knights keeps sending Peace Delegation, while they could've sent a Liberation forces (especially after the Damocles was destroyed) ?
@@spikmaster18 according to the pamphlet was due to the amount of casualties it was projected to take to retake the Hokkaido block.
But this seems like a skill issue to me since you have ace pilots, brilliant leaders, and the smartest scientists in the world.
Somehow I think they can find a way to take over the area with a small amount of casualties.
This explanation is cap.
@MyMediaChops I mean... During Lelouch's leadership, he always throws a lot of soldiers into the meat grinder.
Guess you're right, and I've seen the Rozé PV that Layla & Gino will join the fight on Hokkaido (a bit late is okay I think)
Hey in new pv old character will come include glinda knight, leila and akito. And last i suprise see opheus and marybell also alive in this show. Maybe they get power immortal like lelouch
The Sakura bath scene was crazy
I got Kallen Suzaku vibes from Stage 19
The best scene in this code geass show it fan service. New anime genre didn't have a good scene like this
@@MyMediaChops it think it was a reference
Ash and Narah are carrying the series on their shoulders. Hopefully they survive until the end.
Based on earlier translation, they're referring to discarded data on Geass. Not necessarily from the Geass Order specifically, so that's a phrasing problem. It's more open to interpretation.
I wish they would specify what data on Geass then.
Because the only data on Geass that I am aware of is the data C.C. removed from the Geass Order and whatever the OSI had.
@@MyMediaChops Britannia technically had a few sources of such data, possibility-wise. Bartley and the other scientists from the Code R project under Clovis (if I recall correctly, Schneizel had access to some of that in the movie-verse? It's been a while since I watched the recaps), the Geass Order itself, and the OSI as you've stated. Maybe more, but those are the ones that come to mind.
@@bluespaceman7937 Bartley's data was lost in the Geass Order raid. Yeah Schneizel had something but I don't think that would have helped here.
That was more on Code R C.C.
I think Barley's data was used here because of the obvious Jeremiah and Arnold connection
My question is WHERE THE HELL IS NUNNALLY AND ZERO (aka Suzuku) like didn’t lelouch give the responsibility of making sure peace is intact to him?
Can someone pls explain?
Honestly that has been my question since the series began.
It is reasonable that in 5 years things still need to be changed. I know the ending of the original show and the movie was pretty happy, but it's perfectly plausible, even in real life, that the world is still feeling the repercussions of the war and pre war time. Moreover, the Black Knights and the UFN are still subject to the bureaucracy of laws and treaties. They are no longer an extrajudicial force. This is especially true against a nation that is able to cut themselves from the rest of the world, such as Hokkaido in this setting.
I'm asking if Nunnally and Suzaku are dead in every video report/recap I find here on youtube.
It makes sense if they are dead because of hoe LL got crazy and hilariously handing out Geass powers like they were candies.
Why do you find it weird that there was bigotry against Britannia's? Everybody hated them! A ruler can't actually stop the whole populace from doing what they want, especially not one who's trying to be benevolent. As long as that orphanage was in an area of mixed nationalities, the resentful ppl would have had plenty of chances to take wrongful revenge on any Britannia orphans. And considering how Britannia colonized many Areas, there's plenty of ways to have an orphanage with many Britannian kids off Britannia soil. Also, data recovery is a thing IRL, and there are plenty of ways in which Data could be considered 'destroyed', but still be recoverable.
I already explained the bigotry issue in the video.
In terms of recovering the data, they don't give any details on it which is why I press X to doubt.
I don't know why they are trying to do the SAZ thing again. It has been done 2 times at this point and it made sense within the original series. Euphy and Nunally could pull this off because they were princesses, but Natalia just seems like a secretary to me that basically all of the knights could easily oppose. Also since the rest of Japan isn't occupied and most of the world is part of the UFN wouldn't it be easier to just try and get them out of Hokkaido? Japan is also a recognized nation now right?
Well, in this case it's more of a ghetto from the practical standpoint.
It's a little hard to say whether the UNF can send in a force. It is pretty clear that the UNF is meant to be the Code Geass historical version of the UN in our world. If the charter is anything at all similar to the UN, the UNF and the Black Knights, as they are no longer and extrajudicial force but a legitimate party associated with the UNF, may have their hands tied. One possible explanation, of which there are many more is:
Depending on when Neo Britannia was formed, they may be recognized as a legitimate nation as they meet many of the requirements. If they formed their nation early enough after the fall of the 'Holy Empire of Britannia' where all of the territories of former Japan were still up in the air so to speak, they may be recognized as a legitimate state. And since they are not trying to colonize other places...yet... the UNF cannot mobilize their force due to their charter.
That is just one possible explanation off the top of my head, of course may have to change a bit depending on if we get more about the lore of Code Geass in later episodes.
All this to say that while the UNF, and the UN in our world for that matter, may be a good thing on paper and in instances where a world war is happening, like in Code Geass R1 and R2, there is a lot of legal red tape and charter bureaucracy holding them back from doing anything major. The UN doesn't even do well will coup d'etats, which could also be an explanation of why the Code Geass counterpart also doesn't do well here.
They may not have gotten it from Geass order but maybe the Black knights had some along with Cornelia or Schnizel after Lelouch was betrayed they did use it to make Geass counter measures
they relying too much on fanservice to attract eyes on this show, even og didn't went this crazy with it
lol you should watch the original series again
The difference the og anime had 50 episodes to spread out the fanservice which was only pervasive in maybe 6 of them.
But here basically every episode has something.
In terms of which series has worse fanservice.
I would say this one only because of the frequency and how certain characters only exist for fanservice.
Like i said because the budget to make code geass anime is 25 eps but since the downfall of anime industry most anime just get 12 eps. So story really rush and didn't give proper explanation. About nunaly zero (suzaku). And relation betweeen ash and sarah. They must use fanservice and cool mecha to keep up. That sad fact
Saying that the hatred was directed toward the Britannians after everything Lelouch had done was stupid.
Lelouch’s plan worked for the most part, but it still doesn’t erase the past actions of Britannia and wont completely stop some people to continue harboring deep hatred for them. Like in Narah situation. The whole point of Zero Requirem isn’t to bring about eternal peace but to create a new era and future past the old one. Which he succeeded.
The problem for me is not that people still didn't like Britanians after the Zero Requiem but rather that enough people were legally allowed to take revenge against them.
Where the hell are the police and the governments?
@@MyMediaChops Britannia had terrorized the world. Some governments would overlook it due to how terrible Britannia was. The grudges against Britannia won’t disappear and now that it’s fallen, some people will want to take their revenge. I don’t think this was legally done . It could have been happening behind closed doors like in Narah’s case. From her point of view at least .
Yeah because some of japanese people still hate britania so they bully britania people. That why neo britania is form. But their action is harsh to and repeat same mistake in past. Sadly lelouch peace didn't stand long. Where the hell schneizel and nunaly to help the peace?
@@MyMediaChops The bulk of the prejudice against the Britanians in Hokkaido, which Narah Vaughn experienced and is trying to fight against, likely occurred right after or shortly after the Zero Requiem occurred. As much as it was a plan that the audience was privy to, to the rest of the world for all intents and purposes they just believed that Britanian lost and wanted revenge for their years of subjugation. While the power was transitioning from a fleeing Britanian back to the Japanese government, it is plausible and likely that a lot of people's hate crimes fell through the cracks. Moreover, the national resentment that remained probably resulted in civil servants 'turning a blind eye' to these events. It's something you see a lot in the history of previously colonized nations.
I understand the hate towards Britannia
Yes, possibly measures could've been taken BUT in my opinion there's only so much they can do
I don’t think it’s a openly topic of racism towards the Brit’s but considering how it’s still very recent history with a lot of bad blood people hating the Brit’s because of recent history was bound to be a thing
So some geass order member survive after lelouch destroy it. Maybe some in neo britania had geass user but still must wait for some eps to explain
so if Ash didn't kill Sakuya's father, then who did?
we will find out in the next three episodes
@@MyMediaChops right, cause now, on the next week, we'll be entering act 3.
btw, I see you've got quite the Bionicle collection on your shelf.
@@pauljordan0203 yeah took me over 3 three years tons of Goodwill auctions to get all of the m.
That doesn't include other sets that I haven't built.
@@MyMediaChops I see, well I still have mine, though they're still in boxes since I moved to another state.
Maybe norland who killed him
Everything in this Roze anime doesn't make any sense when linked to the original Code Geass anime. There are so many contradictions and flaws