first time watching: X-MEN: FIRST CLASS!!
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Original Movie: X-Men: First Class
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“It’d be more efficient to torture his mother instead of killing her.”
N-Natalie?!
torture is easy to think out logically, but harder to do(unless you are psyko ofc :P)
@@Belnick6666 To be fair, I'm preeeetty sure you'd find people to do that in a nazi extermination camp.
Nat's got a barely repressed bloodlust apparently...
I blame Game of Thrones
@@Nuneven Once one experiences Joffrey and how many people didn't standup to that little psychopath it becomes clear some people just aren't worth saving. Walder Frey is another person clearly not worth trying to change into a decent person.
"They're just following orders" is the worst thing you can say to a Holocaust survivor, or any genocide survivor.
Didn't work as a defense at Nuremberg, not gonna work anywhere else either.
Yeah, its fun how when Charles cant use his powers to convince someone he fucks up, like he is too used to being able to read minds.
he's also a murder so. he doesn't get a pass
@@vjexmixv Yes, he is a super villain. This explains the path into that.
That's why his response is "never again."
I love that Natalie is putting more thought into the continuity of the X-men movies than literally anyone who helped make them.
Thankfully, movies like First Class prioritise a good story over continuity cause the latter has always been the bane of superhero media.
I don't think I ever noticed how silly the plane crash scene was because I was always kind of awe-struck at how Erik becomes Charle's harness, holding him in place without a seatbelt. Without even a thought, Erik just dove over Charles like that to keep him from tumbling loosely during the wreck.
Yeah.. but who knows what would happen to Charles, you know? It was a good call anyway.
Protect Charles at all cost, I guess :D
“I have been at the mercy of men just following orders” is such a great line. Magneto is fleshed out here and I loved it.
My exact reaction in theater " No no...NEVER say that to a holocaust survivor."
@@petergrieder9393 yeah exactly, you know in that moment that Charles fucked up
The great tragedy of Charles and Erik is that they are good friends, and they are both driven by the desire to do what's best for mutantkind. But they have opposite definitions of what's best, and they both are neither completely wrong nor completely right.
Charles tries to concentrate on what’s best for everyone, not just mutants.
Although Erik is more on the wrong side of the spectrum usually.
@@Tom_McMurtry Yes, but it's a little difficult to keep him there as his personal experiences have justified his radical views
@@gawainethefirst True, and he knows he is best placed to do this by being most directly involved with mutants.
The difference is that Charles want the mutants to be treated like "normal" people, while Erik wants them to be superior
Shaw: "We don't kill our kind."
ALSO Shaw: "Adapt to this." *proceeds to kill Darwin*
Shaw: *Breaks all of comic lore by killing the unkillable man*
"...unless they piss me off". Boom.
@@Reidlos1773 ...oh shit....I hadn't thought about that but...yeah...
@@Reidlos1773 That still infuriates my eldest.
Well... Darwin wasn't really one of his own kind perse. I mean think about Shaw's background.
When Xavier jumped into the water to save Magneto, he knew exactly where he was. Telepathy can do that. The Cerebro graphics we’ve seen just does the same thing on a much larger scale.
Darwin is OP but unpredictable. There’s a comic where the Hulk goes on a rampage so they send Darwin thinking he’d evolve to be able to defeat. But he’s about survival. He developed teleportation and teleported to the other side of the planet to get away.
The movie still did him dirty.
What they should have done was have an end credit scene showing Darwin coming back to life.
His power is adaptation. Shaw was the threat. He adapted by 'faking his death'. Once Shaw is dead, he didn't need to keep faking.
My fave is Darwin turning into a God of Death to defeat Hela.
Yeah the idea that Sebastian Shaw could defeat Darwin is a joke. They pussafied him huge in this flick, He's Omega level baby!
Think about how funny that is... Dude can do like anything, sees the Hulk, and his power says NOPE and yeets him across the planet 😂
I don't think Darwin died in this movie.
The “red devil guy”, Azazel, is Nightcrawler’s father in comics continuity, and Mystique his mother. Hence his coloration, looks, and powers.
Weird how they never did anything with that
Fun Fact: Chris Clairmont laid the groundwork for Destiny to be Nightcrawler's mother, and Mystique to be his father. But he couldn't get final approval from Marvel to write that storyline, although the ground work, and heavily implications are all there in the comics. Then he left marvel, and nightcrawler's parentage was still up in the air, so some hack writer butchered it with this, when they should have left well enough alone for a time when such a story could have been written.
@@g8kpr3000 It's even sadder than this, Claremont technically never left Marvel, he's been under a ridiculous exclusive contract since the late 90's (after his brief DC escapade), and paid for decades by Marvel not to write anything. Talk about a waste !
@@CharlieBrown20XD6 Blame Fox for that oversight. Feige will set it right.
@@g8kpr3000 that is so interesting! Reminds me so much of mythology, where Loki as a shapeshifter, has also been a mother to Sleipnir for example. Would be really cool to get that on screen. That is really taking advantage of characters powers in terms of writing interesting plot.
The coin scene at the end is so beautifully shown. I can’t tell from your reaction or not so I’ll say it just in case and tbh Idk if I’m 100% right but this is how I interpreted it.
When reading someone’s mind Charles felt what Shaw feels mentally and physically. Charles felt every bit of pain from the coin slowly going through Shaw. (The speed of the coin mirroring Shaw and Charles’ head) If Charles didn’t want to feel the pain anymore it could risk unfreezing Shaw and possibly getting Eric killed.
Erik really put him into a difficult position where he
1) will suffer throught the whole proccess
2) will let go of Shaw and most likely let Erik getting killed
I love how the friendship of Charles and Eric is tragic. McAvoy and Fassbender are phenomenal in their roles. It makes the previous films a little more sad when those characters interact
19:45 Darwin's power is actually insanely powerful in the comics. It was a little weird that they killed him off here because in reality he's literally unkillable - his body will always do some deus ex machina stuff to bail him out. e.g. His mom was a smoker, and fell asleep with a lit cigarette causing a housefire. Darwin carried her out of the burning building completely unscathed because he'd evolved flame retardant skin. Later due to repeated and prolonged abuse and rejection from his mom, he tried to kill himself by jumping off a building, but by the time he reached the ground his bones had evolved to be mailable and springy, and body less dense, allowing him to land safely. Even later, when faced off against a guy shooting at him with a weapon that destroys the target's central nervous system, his body morphed into a sponge.
Hell one time he was fighting the HULK and his body went through a myriad of transformations trying to adapt to his opponent's limitless strength, even going so far as being able to syphon gamma radiation out of the hulk. In the end, his body decided that the best way to survive the hulk, was to be somewhere else. He evolved the ability to teleport and it ported him far away lol.
Now all that being said, since darwins powers are kinda just at the discretion of the writers, and they can be "anything they need to be", we can cope the cinematic darwin isn't actually dead. But I guess its sort of a mute point now that the fox marvel universe has concluded.
In my mind, Darwin's body keeps teleporting him away whenever he attempts to walk into X Mansion. He's been trying for years to join the school, find the X Men on missions, and his body just says "nope"
I am pretty sure his body turned into pure energy at point in the comics to save him, it took awhile for him to reform into a physical form though. But i could be wrong
There was also the time he fight Hela, the Goddess of Death.
His power basically said "the best way to survive is to become a God of Death"
I think they were symbolically killing off any easy get-outs for the franchise moving forward. It's the ultimate in "oh it's okay we've got just the right solution for that" resolution to any plot. It was a "yeah we're not going to do that here" type of approach.
@@exquisitelemonade3039 They could also just not included Darwin.
Yeah, X-Men film continuity gets _extremely_ spotty starting here for a couple of reasons. 1. This film was originally conceived more as a soft reboot of the series than a straight prequel so they weren't trying _too_ hard to make everything fit perfectly and 2. With some exceptions, this film and all later ones try pretty hard to pretend X-Men 3 and Origins: Wolverine mostly didn't happen, you'll notice the biggest continuity errors/retcons (like Xavier getting paralysed earlier than the flashback in X3 and his cameo in Origins that both showed him walking) are conflicts with those two films more than X-Men 1 and 2 (where it's mostly easy to ignore or handwave stuff like the age Charles and Erik first met or the origin of Cerebro).
Yeah my continuity is basically 1, 2, First Class, DOFP, Logan. Anything else and the continuity falls apart totally.
@@philipsheppard4815 Yeah, that mostly works well, the only real issue with just counting those is the one prominent flashback/reference to 3 in DOFP.
@@philipsheppard4815 Even with that continuity, there's young and older Emma Frost in the same timeline. Young being in first movies and older being in First Class.
I mean, couldn’t you just argue 1st Class is the start of Timeline 2, and that Days of Future Past connect the timelines together? Obviously I don’t want to get into the spoilers about it, but really if that’s how you angle it, you could just suggest they misunderstood what using Kitty’s power would do.
@@MrHale The young Emma was only in _Origins: Wolverine,_ which Philip Sheppard didn't include on his timeline. Also, regardless, they never call Emma in _Origins_ "Emma Frost" anyway so you can easily say that she's a different character (even the creators have said she's "Emma Silverfox" rather than Emma Frost in some sources, even if it's obvious she was originally _intended_ to be Frost before _First Class_ contradicted it). In the same vein, if you are trying to include all the films in continuity, I always headcanon Victor Creed and Sabretooth as different characters given how little they fit together since Sabretooth is never called "Victor" in X-Men 1 and Victor is never called "Sabretooth" in _Origins: Wolverine._
I adore this movie. It was a stroke of genius to tie Magneto's powers into his humanity and his both good and bad memories/feelings. It keeps Erik from ever going full on villain (in the movies). He's not a black and white/good and bad kind of villain, which I appreciate.
31:07 That's my favorite Magneto line. No matter how you feel about his actions, that one line explains every action he takes.
Wolverine's cameo was great. Still makes me laugh.
They weren't sure what Hugh Jackman was going to say, the script just said he refuses. When he blew their 1 F-Bomb on this take, Fassbender and McAvoy were so flummoxed by it they just left to reset the scene. Works so well.
@@Dilirium23 really?! That makes it funnier.
I nearly forgot it was in this one, then I remembered just moments before - awesome moment!
I remember our theatre burst out in thunderous laughter, which took a few moments to subside. We were all so amused by it, it sort of polluted the rest of the sequence.
...but a small price to pay for, IMO, one of the best cameos in film history.
Best part of the movie Hands down
I really enjoyed Natalie's confusion with them screwing up the continuity as we all had a decade ago when this movie came out. It's the messiest cinematic universe, and also kinda the one that started them all.
When she kept asking about how things connected... I wanna say, yeah - they don't.
Frankly it'll only get worse as it goes along.
@@raelshark the first two still fit in kind of OK, after that though it doesn't even pretend, plus people literally not ageing over 30 years just gets ridiculous.
@@philipsheppard4815 When First Class came out I assumed they'd slowly age them through movie effects and make-up throughout the decades. Instead they chose to insult our intelligence. Leaving all of us to wonder why a Holocaust survivor in the 80s looked no older than 44 at best.
@@WhelmedButReady yeah it's fine for the first sequel, it's only 10 years, but by the third and fourth film it's just ridiculous, in the last film they are only chronologically 10 years or so from the first X-Men film.
They wanted to keep the cast of the 60s but also trying to catch up to modern times, its dumb, you cant have it both ways, if every movie after first class was restricted to the 60s beginning of the 70s it would actually give it a special charisma and then they could save modern times for another sequence of movies and somehow connect the dots between the 60s cast and the modern one, they could even have one character describing what happened and then another one showing another interpretation, kind of like when wolverine sees xmen comics and say it didnt happen like that
Taking into account the relationship between Xavier and Mystique in this movie, it can be said Mystique wasn't trying to kill Xavier in the 1st movie. Just sideline him long enough to complete their mission.
Magneto is an Omega Level Mutant making him one of the most powerful mutants in X-Men. Jean Grey and Professor X are sometimes the only X-Men to take him out because they're also Omega Level.
Charles wasn't just seeing the coin from his perspective, he was feeling it too
Damn I never knew that. That sucks
I imagine that Alex (Havok) discovered his powers when he was trying to hula hoop and got mad cause he couldn't 😂🤣😅
That would be the best
@@watchingmoviesbrb8525 Haha! It would be hilarious....except for if anyone was standing near him of course 😅
IMAGINE 🤣🤣💀
Havok tries to explain what a hula hoop is to Professor X: "You know... for kids!"
HAHAHAHA, the Ao3 screenshot, that editing is wonderful 😌 Yeah Erik/Charles is absolutely infamous, not only was the X-Men a metaphor for the Civil Rights Movement in America at the time of conception but they've been linked to the LGBT experience for decades, I mean, you HAVE seen the famous X2 scene with Bobby and his parents! "So when did you first know you were, uh..." "We still love you Bobby, it's just this (mutant) problem..." "Have you tried... not being a mutant?", I mean need anyone say more... Well, this Prof X/Magneto has been written on and theorised over since the dawn of time it seems, and James McAvoy and Michael Fassbender have been vocally in support throughout interviews all these years (alongside their co-stars AND the X Men writing/directing teams!), so at this point it is kind of unofficially canon. McAvoy himself describes the dynamic between Erik and Charles in First Class as making it a "kind of love story" 💗
Except, it wasn’t though. That scene specifically, yes, for comedic purposes. However the rest of it was MUCH more than smthn as small as LGBT. It was civil rights in GENERAL, in a much larger scope than LGBT. And also idk if you saw that Charles and Erik were both straight, and the love they had was a FRIENDSHIP and BROTHERHOOD. Nothing to do with LGBT.
@@caleb.Baloogler someone’s a homophobe lol, this is an old comment, in which I stated one specific scene was an allegory to the gay experience, not the entire movie or series? Either you’ve completely misread the part where I point out Marvel’s intended relationship parallel between Xavier/Magneto and Malcom X/MLK, or you’ve ignored it on bad faith and chosen to (senselessly) pick my comment apart because I chose to uplift the cast and writing team’s clear love of the Erik/Charles pairing… LGBT struggles are not “small”. Women and men are murdered every day in the name of hatred and the false translation of religious script. Your clear distaste for Erik/Charles as a pairing is boring and tiring, none of their relationships with female counterparts are as meaningful and well written as their relationship with each other, so it’s clear to see why people pair them as such. Moira was simply the mandatory girlfriend character.
@@sp0ngeb00b7 No, you used that specific scene to link x-men and their struggles and battles, to the LGBT and what they go through. When that scene was only for comedic purposes, while everything else was intended to represent a much bigger scope than JUST Lgbt. Which all in turn was to justify or idealize Charles and Erik being together romantically. Erik had a wife and child if you're forgetting, and that wasn't Charles's "mandatory" girlfriend, he was actually in love with her. I understand people were killed for who they were attracted to, but that has nothing to do with what I'm saying. I'm just tired of people both real and fictional who are STRAIGHT being fetishized and pushed into certain romantic or sexual relationships for inclusivity. Same reason I hate rule 34, it's just widespread sexualization that actually ruins people's irl relationships and it's disgusting to see. I don't go around shipping gay characters as straight. It's just weird why close friendships or really strong love between the same sex can't be seen as JUST THAT. A brotherhood. If characters are straight, why on earth would someone fantasize of them not being like that. It's just sexual. Same thing with gay spiderman. WHY? Just make more gay superheroes if people are that crazy to sexualize superheroes. I don't know why sexuality of characters is so important, it's just starting to get creepy for me.
@calebachkahav5867 hoooo boy there a lot of things wrong with this comment and i am way to tired to deal with all of them. first of all: just because charles and erik have been/are with women does not necessarily mean they are straight. bisexuality exists my dude. no one ever said they were straight. but in your little homophobic world, you only see things in black and white, and you only see being straight as the norm, so you immediately assume they are. secondly: headcanoning that a character is queer is not fucking sexualising them. why do you think that the only reason we have these headcanons is so that we can "fantasize" about them????? that's a weird fuckin assumption to come to. why is being queer inherently sexual to you??? thirdly: if you don't ship it, THAT'S FINE. this ship is not harming anyone, least of all you. QUEER PEOPLE EXISTING DOES NOT HARM ANYONE, LEAST OF ALL YOU. so why don't you go back your little bubble of hatred and leave us all alone. maybe one day you'll realise how fucked up homophobia is and you'll grow as a person. i hope so. anyways, i would like to go back to watching videos and forget that toxic people like you exist. so byeeeee!!!
30:03, the real point to be made about this scene is that Charles is experiencing every sensation and emotion that Shaw felt as that coin slowly pressed through his skull and brain, all the while empathizing with the grief and flood of emotions that Erik must have been feeling in this very moment.
In the scene where the Jet is crashing onto the beach, Eric magnetizes himself to the hull over Charles to hold them in place and save them.. Like a big ol' mutant seatbelt.
I love that scene so much! It's such a small detail and a lot of people miss it, but it really adds to the great portrayal of their friendship 💙
Nat, just a heads up for you: Those X-men movies have no plausible continuity whatsoever haha so keep that in mind and you will enjoy them. They make references and stuff but in the next movie things change and no one seem to notice, like the fact that Charles came back in that post-credit scene in X3
So keep that in mind, it’ll save you hours and hours of trying to understand wtf they’re doing 🤣
Actually, the continuity isn't that complicated. First Class is basically a soft reboot of the series that introduces a new timeline and DOFP cements it as the current timeline.
It all actually lines up pretty well tbh
Just small character changes and details
And to be vague as not to spoil too much, the end credits scene on Deadpool 2 pretty much ties up any loose end you can come up with.
@@vetarlittorf1807 But DOFP combines the rebooted past and old future...
Yep, what the others have said. Differences/discrepancies are explained by it being a different timeline, but Days of Future Past merges the two. The director of Logan also confirmed that movie to be set in a different timeline from the other movies, but most fans seem to have missed that.
The part about Charles coming back to life was foreshadowed earlier in the X3 where during a class Charles talked about the morality of someone terminally ill transferring their own consciousness into a brain dead persons. So basically before being killed by Phoenix he transferred his own mind into the body of his comatose twin brother.
Natalie you're really gonna love " Xmen Days of Future Past". It's the best installment of the bunch. Classic Xmen comic book storyline, a little different than the comics, but still good.
"Why do you get to be a Devil and a teleporter?"
Nat has already forgotten about Nightcrawler.
For someone who reacts to a lot of movies, her knowledge of the ones she has seen is abysmal 🙄👎👎👎
So did the movies... sigh*
I was so bummed when i first saw X 3 and Kurt wasn't there for no reason, not sure if Alan Cumming wasn't available or didn't care, but they re-casted Kitty Pryde 3 times and each time she jumped ages as well, in X 1 she was a redhead like above 17 y/o then in X 2 she's a brunette looking like 5 years younger, then became Elliot Page for X 3 and supposed to be Rogue's and Boby's age which was around +20 in that movie
@@sonnic1995 Alan Cumming has recently done an interview where he mentioned the X2 set as 'dangerous' and 'abusive' and a 'bad working situation'.
"I would be in that awful blue makeup. I put on loads of weight during that because I would just eat, I was exhausted. My boyfriend at the time would make all these crazy big meals. I would go home, eat a ton, have a couple glasses of wine, burst into tears, and go to sleep. And then go and be a miserable blue mutant [the next day]."
That's why he's not in X3.
@@sonnic1995 Even though he was going by his given name at the time, it's still respectful to refer to him as Elliot Page even regarding events in the past.
@@sonnic1995 Don't deadname Elliot, it's disrespectful
The way she kept calling Charles/Professor X as just “X” was fucking hilarious. It reminded me of an old Drew Carey episode where they’re watching Die Hard and one of them kept calling John McClain “Die Hard”. “Run, Die Hard, RUN!” hahaha!
Hilarious but super cringed
Or as the old meme says: _"I think Halo is a pretty cool guy. Eh kills aleins and doesnt afraid of anything"_
@@nickstanton6021 more than the pronunciation “Mora” rather than Moy-ra lol god it’s fuckin dumb how much the meaningless little things irk me I am such a douche
@@nickstanton6021 Yeah..she didn't have any problems remembering the name Eric so yeah it gets annoying.
McClane
X-men will always be my favorite comic story. I love that the character of Charles is inspired by MLK and Eric is the Malcolm X side. Both want to same thing, but both have completely different perspectives on getting there. One using Peace and the other using Violence. It's written so well, you're so conflicted because you some what agree with both of them.
But what I love most is, and the first trilogy really emphasis it, and this one brought it home and gave it more context, is that both Charles and Eric are "enemies" but both respect one another so much. They will always have a soft spot for one another. I love their respect for eachother but are also trying to stop eachother. Really complex and conflicted relationship.
24:30 AHHH, HIMYM reference, she's one of us!!
Good to see you here Oscar
Oh _that_ Barney, I was picturing the purple dinosaur...
Nice to see you around here, Oscar.
speaking of himym at 21:00 we see Robin’s dad
Woah didn’t expect to see you here hi!
"True focus lies between rage and serenity." I think that line means you're more powerful when you use your anger to fight for something you love, to protect rather than destroy. Like how in a whole lot of other movies they say there's a difference between fighting against something, and fighting for something.
Came with a good bit of irony, Xavier essentially helping Magneto realize his pull power potential.
I interpreted it to mean that to be most effective he needs to find a way to somehow be both angry and calm at the same time. If he's only angry, he won't have the control or concentration to do what he needs to do, and if he's only calm, he won't have the motivation or strength of will to do it.
@@iapetusmccool Yup, the answer, focused anger instead of rage, using it to direct his power with precision and bolster it rather than have to fight to direct his power while lost in his rage. Love how the scene plays out.
"Is she telepathic, but also made of diamonds? How does she do both?"
A mutant can have more than one power. Take Wolverine, for example. He's mostly known for his claws and his ability to heal, but he also has enhanced senses. It's not that they have more than one mutation, it's more that the one mutation they do have can potentially manifest itself in several different ways.
I also want to say that Oliver Platt is a seriously overlooked/underrated actor, especially nowadays.
Also, her name is Emma Frost and the group is known as the Hellfire Club. I'm pretty sure that telepathically, Emma is stronger than Charles and only is second to Jean Grey
It's funny how every movie kinda forgets about Wolverine enhanced senses until the plot requieres it, also his heavy body.... in Origins you'd think he would been able to smell the fake blood or being able to tell it wasn't Kayla's (or just not be blind or idiot enough to see Kayla had no wounds) Also in the first movie he smells Mystique as Storm, yet like 1 scene earlier they walk next to her as a statue and nothing, then in X3 he doesn't notice Mystique is posing as Jean until he see's the scars on her stomach... sometimes he gets thrown around like a regular person, then when someone's trying to lift him and help he becomes heavy again
@@thehobbyist7275 I believe Charles is canonically a more powerful telepath than Emma
@@pebblesanddirt Honestly I couldn't remember, but all I do know is that Emma Frost isn't a weak telepath
in the case of Emma Frost, however, they are 2 distinctly separate mutations
Wolverine's healing factor isn't his main power but a package deal of enhanced traits - body structure being more animalistic (bones naturally formed into claws) mixed with berserker rage (can fight through pain to the point he's temporarily immune [won't die from pain overload]) and enhanced senses (can track someone's scent for miles), can hear a person's heartbeat to tell if they're lying similar to Daredevil, can even taste pheromones in the air
for Emma Frost, she has 2 conflicting powers - she's one of the most powerful telepaths in the world - however when she's in diamond form, she can no longer use her telepathy (although she becomes immune to other forms of telepathy in that form)
Henry Jackman's score is phenomenal in this movie. His theme for Magneto is one of the best character themes in any superhero movie. Also yeah, at this point, the continuity was almost completely thrown out the window. Not entirely, but to the point where questioning the inconsistencies will just give you a headache. Best to not worry about it.
as a comic reading X-Men fan from the 90s-00s, the hardest part of the movies is not taking them seriously like you can with the MCU
end credit scenes don't matter because they usually just forget about them in the next movie or break their own continuity in some other way
continuity in the X-Men movies are the first thing thrown out when they'd rather have a cool moment or set piece, so you really can't get too invested or put any thought into the hundreds of plot holes - they can't even get powers correct most of the time (e.g. sometimes the optic blast is correct and sometimes they mistakenly give it heat)
nice as it was seeing many cool moments on screen, I'll be happy if MCU actually cares about the story
I hope they will and don't change the name from X-Men to anything else. While it's just rumors, come on people: there's plenty of powerful women in the X-Men(Jean Grey, Storm, Psylocke, Emma Frost, Magik, Rogue, Kitty Pryde, Hope Summers, Jubilee - do I need to go on?)
In fact, with how many women are on the roster, you could literally make a team of female X-Men. The reason they carry that name is that it's Xavier's Men and Women. The X represents the founder and the ideals of Charles. The X-Men are probably one of if not the most diverse team you can find in Marvel
This movie is great but the next one, Days of Future Past, is the best one in the franchise in my opinion. I’m really excited for you to watch that! Also, the scene in First Class with Logan was improvised by Hugh Jackman, you can see the look of confusion on Michael Fassbender and James McAvoy’s faces but they stayed in character so they kept it in for one of the best parts of the movie!
Yaas
I remember my heart pounding during the entire opening sequence of "DOFP", simply because the Sentinels have such a creepy design and I mainly grew up with them as the big mecha mooks in the original "X-Men"animated series. Best enemies of the franchise.
Totally agree, DoFP is the best X Men movie, second this one. Logan is on its own level.
I just hope she sees The Wolverine first.
From what I remember hearing about it they weren’t staying in character they thought Hugh Jackman forgot his lines and they were going back to their scene starting positions so they could do another take.
There have been memorable villains in the X Men films but… between Shaw’s off-kilter aging, the unwanted touching, constantly having the women around him in less than underwear, constantly soliciting young people while slaughtering the parents, and literally feeding Darwin Havok’s energy blast, no villain has ever measured up to the sheer creep factor that Shaw gives off. Kevin Bacon just owned that role.
Old Kevin Bacon has played a couple of villain roles SO well, Im surprised he isnt playing more roles like this.
Kevin Bacon asShaw is the only X-Men series villain who can begin to compare with Magneto himself.
That’s what the Hellfire Club is all about. Nearly naked women always around.
That point where he compliments Emma might actually make the audience like him/them as a couple... so they have to make sure he immediately belittles her and treats her like a servant to fetch him ice afterwards.
27:21 the way eric jumps over charles to save him is so freaking cute and it's the first time I've noticed it✨
And the way charles endured the pain of that coin passing through shaw's head, because he knows if he lets shaw go he could get eric killed🥺🤧
"And also, Eric here is very sexy..." 😂😂 I felt that with my soul... This movie made me stan Michael Fassbender so hard, he owns one of the top-spots on my list of favourite actors 💙
Edit: I laughed so hard when you called him a 'sexy shark', a lot of people actually compared his wide grin to that of a shark XD
Natalie - the 'rage and serenity' memory isn't Erik's birthday, it is his mother lighting a menorah (not a chanukiyah)
Good catch. I had to go back to count the candles
Kinda funny that she's Jewish but she missed that. I'm not mocking thou
@@takewhataway definitely a wtf face palm moment when as soon as the movie was over she talks about being Jewish but didn't recognize a menorah
There’s a number of people who identify as culturally Jewish but don’t practice or have much recollection of traditional Judaism. Kinda unfortunate, honestly.
Yes, quite the facepalm moment Nat. Back to Hebrew School! lol - however, I think the writers made a mistake - they should have shown a Hanukah Menorah (which is what I had always assumed it was - yes, there are 7 candles instead of 9) - lighting a 7 candle menorah isn't a relished tradition in Judaism to my knowledge. My family never did, nor do I know of anyone else who does (maybe it was different in villages without electricity) - Hanukah however, I think every jewish kid has a fond memory of lighting one - mine is when we lit for the first time a menorah I made in Hebrew School and used it for several years until the dog broke it.
I heard somewhere that the Wolverine scene they used was actually improv on Hugh's part
and the other actors reactions were genuinely "Guess we're doing another take..."
Love that scene!
Nat: “Don’t do it girl, don’t do it.”
Mystique: “I’m not gonna do it girl, I was just thinkin about it”
I absolutely love this film. I’m a huge X-men comic book guy and Shaw was always just a rich strong guy. He’d absorb energy but only use it for strength. This movie did it way different and improved on the character. Also the end, Mags had to push the coin thru slowly so it has minimal kinetic energy. And because Charles was holding Shaw still, he felt all of it. Shocking. 💜💜
I love the look Logan give Charles and Erik after they leave. Like he’s thinking, “Huh, they actually listened. Smart men.”
Xavier could probably tell how sincere he was and Lensherr has learned to trust Xavier.
The way the coin moves through Shaw and by extension Xavier makes Magneto's threat of slowly moving a bullet through a cop outside the train station in the first movie much more personal.
22:48 is really good because I was like "Does she know about Cherik?" The whole video until 22:48 came along and I was like "She knows about Cherik welcome abord" 😂
Mystique: "And Beast, never forget, mutant and proud."
Beast: "Mystique, you're a shape shifter. You can take on _any_ shape, _any_ appearance at _any_ time. I'm big, blue and hairy and there's nothing I can _do_ about it. What you say means _nothing_ to me."
I thought the same about the Storm/Rogue argument in X3, when the woman who could control the weather at will was shitting on the girl who wanted to give up her "power" of never being able to hug anyone in case she accidently killed them.
Lol that's how it should of ended in my opinion... if you know you know 🤷
Fassbender and McAvoy were perfect casting as young Magneto/Professor X. Each one embraced their characters and made them their own, and giving a few glimpses of the men they would be in the future.
Nat: “I hope we go back to the future / I’m glad we went to the past”
Me knowing Days of Future Past is next: 😌
Gonna have to wait a bit longer. The Wolverine is next.
I always stay through the credits for a film I enjoy anyway, not for a missing scene, but more to show my appreciation for all the hard work that went into making it. 👏🏼🎬
Darwin was my only problem with this movie, they literally killed off the most unkillable X-Men character in this movie...
2 years late but freaking excalty.
Eric/magneto is one of my fav X-Men characters ever. His struggle is so heartbreaking and emotional you can't help but root for him, even though his means are way beyond being justified, feeling sympathetic for Eric is legit impossible not to do
they did my boy darwin real dirty in this movie. In the comics he is one of the stronget and smartes mutants and can pretty much adapt ot anything. I think that they realised how over powered of a character he was and that there would literally be no threat to any of the new memebers so they reduced his powers.
That's probably a part of it yeah, though I think they could've easily written around it if they were creative. Like his power is also really unstable and not in his control, which could make for some hilarious scenes. Like him just teleporting away etc
@@Ghilannugs darwins power is random, say to beat the hulk, it would give him the best chance of surviving, so it would tp him, or if a parasite tries to attack the brain, he might change into something that doesn't have a brain.
@@hannahaitman9043 yeah at one point I think he restored his body by becoming pure energy
Wasn't he able to survive Hela's touch?
@@hs-ti4fr yeah by becoming a god of death himself
Remember in the beginning of Last Stand where Charles was talking to his students and said: When An Individual Acquires Great Power, The Use Or Misuse Of That Power Is Everything." then they showed the doctor and the patient in a coma in the hospital that was all key to remember for the post credit scene.
The rage and serenity line always cracks me up. They’re literally two extremes of human emotion.
Just wanted to mention that Charles is breathing heavy watching the coin come towards him through Shaw's eyes because he knows he's going to feel it when the coin goes through Shaw's head, and boy does he.
Yeah, feeling that pain and death while alive has got to be one of the worst sensations you could have.
@@jeanpaulmedellin and he could have easily stopped....but then Erik would be in danger....so he chooses to go through that pain and be an accessory to murder, an act he hates, all for his friend
@@CharlieBrown20XD6 Yeah he seriously took one for the team by doing that.
"What is it with these people and getting more than one power?" Well, if you think about it, Jean was a telepath AND could do telekinesis. Wolverine has his healing factor, an extended life and his claws. And Storm could control wind, lightning, snow, fog...
Also: "Why did he get to be a devil and a teleporter?" Ask Nightcrawler from the second movie. ;)
The abilities may be varied, but they're all offshoots from a central mutation. Jean had a strong mind that could do all that and more, but those two are the most obvious. Wolverine has a beast like mutation, that covers claws, senses, and healing.
Storm.. is a bit more complicated, but I think it's mainly more a wind/water awareness that allows her to manipulate it. Maybe just more of a temperature ability that can actually cover all of her abilities when you consider weather.
Wolverine's extended life is an extension of his healing factor, not separate. If you could regenerate young and healthy cells over and over again such that free radicals would never harm the collagen or telomeres never shortened, you would be functionally immortal and never age past the end of maturity, perhaps at the point when myelination is mostly complete in the mid 20s.
thank you for pointing out the enormous flaw they made with Darwin! not to get too nerdy here but even if you read about him in the comics he could be killed in such a stupid way. its almost impossible for him to die and yet they found a way to kill yet another black character early in a film.
your memory is FINE! you remember character names from past movies you've only seen once, you remember WAY more actor names and past roles than I can, don't be hard on yourself! I am honestly impressed how much you retain from past movies relating to future super hero movies, etc.
Natalie: "Hanks not the guy who transforms into a blue monkey, right?"
LMAO
Oh, my Stars and Garters! You're recounting toward me that she neglected to recognize he befell into his beast-like form, the 5th most judicious hero encompassing Marvel?! Well, I tried to be like beast, lol
X3 starts with Charles discussing powers and ethics: a man lies in a bed, he is alive, but he has no conscience, no soul within him. And in the end credit scene, it is shown he decided to put himself in the body.
yeah, there was tons of talk going around about it either being his twin brother who had always been inactive or maybe it was someone who looked different but Xavier was constantly using his powers to make himself appear as before to those around him - either way, they never address it - Prof X needs to come back for another movie; that's as much thought was put into it
One of my favorite scenes in any superhero film is when Eric pulls the Sub out of the water. The way it's shot combined with the amazing music, always gives me goosebumps.
It has been a month since I discovered your UA-cam channel and I have to say that I have never liked a person so much watching only their videos. I laugh a lot and I love your reactions you are a great person!
Oh Natalie, with these movies, including Deadpool, there is a very loose thematic continuity and it's best if you don't care about accuracy of details to it's own timeline.
But there's a big narrative there if you squint a bit.
First Class is more or less a soft reboot of the series. Besides, the comics contradicted each other all the time.
These timelines are so confusing
Sebastian Shaw: "We don't harm our own kind."
Also Sebastian Shaw: *puts a nuke into a teenage mutant's mouth and watches him die*
Shouldnt have worked tho
X-Men Origins: Wolverine (2009) came in between Last Stand and First Class, and after Apocalypse came Logan (2017), Deadpool 2 (2018), X-Men: Dark Phoenix (2019), The New Mutants (2020)
I've been so patient and eager for you to watch these ones. These ones are awesome 👌
My favorite X-Men movie! I love McAvoy and Fassbender, they brought so much to those characters and could stand on their own against Sir patrick Steward and Sir Ian McKellen! I guess what I love most in this movie that I think the other movies lack is "team work", you feel like at the final battle, every character matters and it's not just Wolverine and his friends.
Also, forget about the timeline. This is not Marvel (not really) and not even DC, so almost every director (or film) takes the liberty of playing (messing up) the timeline, so even characters yous aw in the last movie are different. Just go with that in mind for the next movies.
"I guess what I love most in this movie that I think the other movies lack is "team work", you feel like at the final battle, every character matters and it's not just Wolverine and his friends." They also have that in DOFP, Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix.
@@vetarlittorf1807 I'm not gonna spoil in case she reads this but in those movies is not really about team work, just using the characters for the sake of it. Also, Dark Phoenix uses better the team work in the opening scene than at the average/horrible final battle.
@@OsSas3 Wrong. The future scenes in DOFP clearly demonstrate both creative and practical teamwork and Storm's leadership talents. Saying they don't emphasize on teamwork is just denial.
Two things that they would probably regret for most of their lives: Xavier saying "they were just following orders", and Lensherr not watching how he was deflecting the bullets.
just casually swatting bullets into his friends rofl
I am sssssooooooooo glad you've started watching more x-men movies!!! Days of futures past will be a great one for you to watch next! Can't wait to see your reaction!
Nat I watch all of your uploads. Love your reactions you have helped me so much through Covid!
"Did he just shush himself?"
Deadpool's thing is that he breaks the fourth wall, so he was shushing the audience.
Now that you've seen this, Natalie, I can recommend looking up the deleted scenes, specifically an unused version of the scene where Charles and Eric are recruiting Angel. I mean sure at 9:30 Eric was there "being very sexy", but let's just say the wardrobe choice they gave Fassbender in the deleted scene I'm talking about will make you see him in a whole new light.
And while you felt like Azazel was over the top with his mutations, let me just ask if you recall any other characters from earlier movies who teleported in a bamf of smoke and had a pointed devil's tail?
Where can I find the deleted scenes? I only found a couple on youtube.
@@Ricvictors Here's a link to a potato quality YT of just this particular scene:
ua-cam.com/video/x2HOZhvYz-o/v-deo.html
This is a compilation of several scenes with better quality, the scene in question is about 3/4ths the way in.
ua-cam.com/video/SulDmoaP9xE/v-deo.html
Your rants are hilarious. Having a great time rewatching/watching movies with your channel.
"Did he just shush himself?"
No, he shushed us, to make sure we don't tell Wolverine that he survived. One of Deadpool's "things" is that he knows he's in a comic (or in this case, a movie), and he breaks the fourth wall a lot.
Best X-Men film, and the second chance they needed to keep going after Last Stand and Origins: Wolverine. And yes, Cherik is like the #1 pairing. I appreciate that the film embraces the 60s aesthetics to the point that no one at all is surprised when Shaw's boat contains a super secret nuclear submarine.
Professor X was talking about in his class in few movies before about what is right if you put another person mind into someone else’s body and that is what he did, Moira in the first Xman trilogy was a doctor and Professor X friend and now she is a FBI agent, the telepath working with Show is called Emma Frost who has diamond form that stops other telepaths from getting into her head ❤
*I’m so excited that you’re getting closer and closer to X-Men Days Of Future Past!!*
For X Men 3 post credits: That was a brain dead patient they talked about in a class. Discussing whether someone could be saved from death by somehow transferring their consciousness into another body. Charles used his powers to do this right before Jean killed him. According to the commentary, the patient that Charles transferred his mind into is actually his twin brother, so he’d look the same if he ever comes back
We were actually gonna get an Origins Magneto movie but that fell through and it got worked into First Class
I’m sure you were already told Mystique is Nightcrawler’s mom in the comics. Azazel was the father.
So you saw a different, early attempt at Emma in Origins. Kayla’s sister, who could only turn diamond.
I mean, flys spit acid.
Alex _Summers._ Who shoots _red energy from his body._ Like Cyclops aka Scott _Summers._ 🤔
“Why did we have to kill Darwin?” You mean the only black guy? 😬 Yeah that sticks out very uncomfortably
I’m pretty sure Erik’s memory was of Hanukkah
Hank’s not really a specific animal, he’s just a general beast. He’s usually ape-like, but there is another design that has like a cat face I think.
_Just following orders._ Like the ONE thing you don’t repeat to a holocaust survivor. “We did as we were told.’ ‘We functioned as ordered.’ ‘We merely carried out directives from our superiors.’ It was the Nazi theme music at Nuremberg, the new lyrics to the Götterdämmerung, the plaintive litany of the master race as it lay dying. ‘We did not do, others did.’ Or ‘someone else did it.’ ‘We never even knew that it was being done.’ Or ‘we did it, but others told us to.’” Twilight Zone, Death’s Head Revisited.
So right from when Charles gets paralyzed should be evident that there’s not a strict adherence to continuity with the previous movies. We saw Patrick Stewart Charles walking around in Origins and in the flashback in Last Stand. And like one or two other things.
Did you catch that the one old guy was Stryker’s father? William Sr. Charles mentioned his son William was in the cafateria or something in their first meeting.
At one point they planned a Beast spinoff but that also never happened
Darwin dying was also a bit annoying since he's basically immortal in the comics, it just takes him a while to survive/recover in some instances.
In x men 1, it shows Charles walking by reading senators Kelly’s mind,
In future past he walks by using a serum
Also he projects illusions of himself walking many times
In apocalypse he walks while fighting apocalypse
So my theory is in the last stand he walks because he probably still used the serum but it was a new serum that helped him walk and have his powers but caused him to go bald and age faster
And in origins he walks because he’s using an illusion of himself
Again probably not the reason and it’s just continuity error but then again these theory’s could also be true and in a way fix the errors lol
In the comics, it was his twin sister, weird huh?
Michael fassbender as magneto was the best choice. He's amazing.
When you watch X-Men Days of Future past you have to watch the Rogue Cut.
Growing up in the 90's the X-Men were essential to our childhood...the movies were hit or miss in many ways because there were endless ways to go. This one was a hit. I recommend watching the X-Men Animated Series on your own time just to get the background. Night of the Sentinels
Props to your editor. The additions to your reactions are hilarious.
gosh i just love this movie so damn much. the fact it gave us young Charles and Erik in their prime and how well it showcases their friendship is just amazing. this movie will never fail to bring me joy. i cant wait for DOFP, another one of my favorites :)
The “cheesy” stylistic choices you mentioned are really an homage to fantasy action films of the 1960s, the James Bond series in particular, which dealt with similar larger-than-life, world threatening events in a playful, fantastic way.
The reason why Charles can walk in The Last Stand IS explained in Days of Future Past
Natalie looks so happy to be watching another X-Men movie. She is such a cute girl.
I really advise you to watch the extented version of X-Men: Days of Future Past 'The Rogue Cut' with one more story arc for about twenty minutes added 🙏🔥
GALAXY QUEST would be great for a reaction!
the wolverine cameo in this movie is one of the better easter egg moments in a film. It makes sense that he's around and it also makes sense that he tells them to shove it.
Your comment about people sitting through the end credits and there not being a teaser scene - it just amazes me, that after all these years, so many people get up and leave as soon as the credits start in a Marvel movie.
Fassbender is a perfect casting for getting under the skin and feels of Magneto. The tone was meant to imitate a ‘60s style but you can define it as simply “cheesy” if you want. Just for reference Not all superhero movies were planned as part of a greater series like Marvel has been doing the last 10 years. Some movies are just standalone stories.
regarding charles finding eric in the water so easily it's easy to know exactly where people are when you are telepathic
This is the best one (jmo) ! Ah the memories of that movie, and the scores. Magneto's theme music still gives me chills 😭💗 I always loved Magneto but it's with this one that he truly became my baby 💟
I remember seeing this in theaters and how everyone looked in awe at the scene where Magneto lifts the submarine.
Charles was the one who's feeling the coin going through Shaw's head, cuz he was controlling Shaw. So that back and fort and Charle's scream scene shows it
That flash up of the fanfic 🤣🤣🤣 I remember watching this film and being like oh hey Hank...you look different. When he tried the stuff out I was like "....ah....well...i know where this is going" 😅
22:50 so you found the ship yeees welcome welcome!
That movie was hum a big part of Cherik's popularity, but there's also a good amount of content from the comics. And now you can look at the original movies in a new light !
This is the list of X-men movies you have already seen and the ones you have yet to see:
- X-men 1 ✅
- X-men 2 ✅
- X-men 3: The last stand ✅
- X-men origins: Wolverine ✅
- X-men first class ✅
- The Wolverine
- X-men Days of Future Past
- X-men apocalypse
- Deadpool 1
- Logan (my favorite X-men movie)
- Deadpool 2
- X-men Dark Phoenix
- New mutants
"X-men Dark Phoenix" Eww 🤮
In terms of end credits scenes we have for the remaining films:
- The Wolverine has a mid credits scene.
- Days of Future Past has an end credits.
- Deadpool has an end credits
- Apocalypse has an end credits
- Logan has none
- Deadpool 2 has several
- Dark Phoenix has none
- Never bothered with New Mutants so no idea but probably not
Dammit Logan still seems so far away lol. Even though I want to see Days of Future Past and Deadpool reactions
@@DuBstep115 Not a good movie but not my least favorite, I dislike the 3rd one so much.
@@krisbrown6692 I mean 1-3 are in their own league because they are so old and what they did to superhero movies. X-men origins: Wolverine and The Wolverine have no excuse being that bad.
Fassbender and McAvoy are hilariously adorable together in interviews. Graham Norton made them review some of the fan fic that was brought up in this reaction (like they read some erotica and viewed artwork).