Unlimited Partials | Razor Hack - Au5
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- Опубліковано 29 лис 2019
- In this tutorial I show you:
How to tweak Native Instruments Razor to unlock extra sine wave partial counts for unprecedented additive clarity within Reaktor 6.
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The unmistakable sound of Au5 - futuristic sound design infused with melodic soundscapes. Au5 transports you to a utopian world that's as vibrant as it is monumental. Unbounded by genre, Au5 consistently pushes the boundaries of possibility within electronic music. From the stargazers to the neck-breakers, Au5's music has something we can all immerse ourselves in. Born and raised in New Jersey, Au5 (Austin Collins) has been a lifelong musician.
Trained in classical piano since age 4 and studying bass guitar and music production since age 13, Austin is a well-rounded composer and music technologist. He has toured with Infected Mushroom, Liquid Stranger, Seven Lions, has been releasing music for over 9 years, with over 100 songs released.
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Razor, my beloved CPU melter. Thanks Austin for this tutorial.
Au5 you get me everytime with that rediculously well made intro
I like watching these even know I don't have Razor...
ZyphiXMusic_Official ahaha same
Get razor. It kicks ass.
I'm broke..
Same here, but info like this I try to absorb and hope my subconscious reminds me later. Still learning the basics, but one day my brain will say "Oh, but if I got Razor, I could get more sine wave partials for a better top-end sound..."
@@CreedP1 *11 month alarm sounds*
My dude, this is a legitimate game-changer for how useful Razor is. Thank you!
I was JUST watching one of your tutorials yesterday and I was wondering "when will he release a new one?", AND THERE IT IS, ON RAZOR TOO!
same here
SAME HERE hahahah!
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@@au5music Just think about it, someone with to much free time might eventually make a FPS shooter to control Ableton, when that happens you could use an aimbot to control ableton? idk how to describe my idea :/ xD
Overused meme:
@@au5music I won't be surprised if you'd be able to control the power grid with your mod wheel in the future lmao
With understanding like this it’s no wonder your stuff sounds so amazing.
Razor is an additive synth. It doesn't have an output filter to rolloff before Nyquist - it just stops producing partials if Nyquist is about to be crossed over! What you're seeing in Spectrum is, I believe, the smoothing of the FFT algorithm used to generate the frequency response curve in the spectrum display.
Well that's pretty handy actually
@@davidpereira4455 Mario is incorrect, additive synths tend to create a fixed number of partials (Harmor creates 528, Razor creates 320, Serum creates over 1000 but isn't additive engine). Additively processing ALL harmonics is difficult, so additive synths tend to have a limited range.
Serum's higher harmonics do get cut off by the Nyquist of sample rate (44.1khz / 2 = 22khz), which also gets cut off if you play a sine wave above that frequency. If you increase sample rate to say 192khz you get EVEN MORE partials, but those higher partials are literally invisible to your ear and can cause Transient artifacts (which can be good or bad, depends on how used). Also over sampling can amplify Gibbs attenuation.
Oh yeah, Its not a filter, Its actually more of a static "spectral envelope" (Not envelope like a modulation envelope), but the output of one of those sine bank modules will always have that general shape ((I dont think that is changeable without an extensive workaround)). The line of thinking being that limiting amplitude of the partials approaching the Nyquist limit will help reduce any aliasing caused by processing downstream. Thank you for posting a video about modifying Razor! I love your content! p.s .Reaktor for life!!!
Now that makes sense and I really appreciate the insight on that phenomenon. Thanks!
@@au5music @Au5 Thanks for replying to your comments! I bet that becomes challenging with as many followers as you have... i hope you are enjoying new and exciting projects, and keep at it! Btw have you used razor in any of your posted songs? Just curious to see how someone at your level would use razor (I've been on an additive binge lately, preparing to do something to razor and my own synth from scratch using the framework that was used to build razor) Thanks!
Loving this intro. You might be one of the only UA-camrs ever to have me replaying the intro for the amazing sound several times over. Would love to see a tutorial just on that specifically!
This is so great to find out about and so valuable. Thanks so much for doing this video!
Not only was I a fan of you in 2012, I started playing around with Live again- and fired Razor up. Kept this in my playlist for sure.
Had to experiment with these parameters, thanks for shedding light on the "Under the Hood" specifications of Razer. I've only used it on 3-4 tracks but its definitely a sleeper.
This video is gold. I just started using Razor after having it many years. I was able to start using pretty quicky from using different synths. I thought was missing something in the sound. This video nailed down what I was looking fow. I am glad I found this video. Your knowledge is insane.
Wow, this is amazing! I always wondered how your razor synths on In the DAW had such a great high end.
You are definitely the best and smartest sound designer in the world!
Razor is the first synth plugin i ever bought. it's such a beast, nothing like it. Great tip/hack right here.
Siiick! I freaking love Razor.
I freakin love RAZOR. I still have the first released version for PC and Mac. Awesome Video!
A great find!
Excellent hack, thanks for sharing 🤟🏽👍🏽
Love your tunes!
🤓🎧🎶💗🔥
AWESOME!!!... killer vid!!!!
Really greatly awesome I'm your huge fan since this month.😊❤❤
Congrats on 50k subs!
On another note.... I just used this technique from this video to make a patch and re sample it into a wavetable in serum (another technique i learned from your in the daw tutorial for Arise). Thanks so much for all your contributions and sharing your knowledge!
Exactly what went through my mind when I heard the clarity of that bass
Thanks for showing this :)
Dang Au5! Thats pretty cool that you can go inside the hood of your tools in reaktor like that and personalize the capabilities to your specific needs. I dont own reaktor tho but,it seems like the step before coding your own tools.
Dude!!! This is awesome; Thank you for sharing ^_^
dang and its half off for black friday. thanks dude lots of love
Nice. Razor is killer for all kinds of sounds. Gonna try this asap :)
Hell yeah! Thanks mate! Pls more Razor bass tuts if possible c:
you are the devil in the detail, so nice tytyty
Incredible.
Thank you very much!
Def trying this.
I'm adding this to my razor+mseg ensemble. thank you
Yessssss thx for bringing it up my man
Nice research!
You’re doing the Lord’s work. The lord of dance!
Wow. Thanks a Lot. :-)
Ok... That's brilliant
That's pretty neat!
Just remember to set it above 516 to tease Harmor users, albeit at a single technical aspect.
@Mark Donald You can?
I can't find anything about that.
You’re a genius
you can always get real hardcore tips from Au5
It's like a part of me understands what you're saying, and a part of me is highly overwhelmed and confused lmao
I don't even have razor and this was super cool
God dammit austin stop being a God. Seriously you are brilliant.
10 years later austin figures out how to overclock vsts to get even better quality in music lol. Thanks dude you are the fucking Goat.
Adding another couple of hundred partials will definitely give you more high end, however once you have partials passing 20KHz it’s basically just a waste of CPU power. I think around 500 or so is a decent amount. Good video
supercool
gold tweak!
Could you please upload a tutorials for mixing and Mastering
You will probably not find the requested filter in RAZOR itself. What you are looking at is the Anti Aliasing Filter of your DAW, which prevents you from going over the Nyquist frequency which in your case is at 22.05kHz if you're running on 44.1kHz
BTW love your tutorials - keep them coming!
I can measure frequencies up to 96khz though with other synths so I have doubts it's my DAW.
Thanks, there's much more to come!
@@au5music This is quite possible if you're running at 192kHz
@@SandyBeats Even at 44.1khz, a simple saw wave doesn't roll off before 20khz, and doesn't have aliasing when analyzed through a scope.
@@au5music An Anti-Aliasing Filter for a sample-rate of 44.1kHz is very steep. It usually starts rolling off at about 18kHz all the way down to 22.05kHz - I highly doubt that it isn't rolling off before 20kHz but I might be wrong... What kind of analyzer are you actually using? But you're definitely right that it is not aliasing - At least not till you distort it.
NI becoming the EA of music production: making you pay for reaktor as an DLC like pay to win/sound great.
Aweseome hack man
Cool! Can you mod Razor so that both osc slots vocode, so you can vocode input with itself? This would allow using all the effects on the input sound. Thanks!
can this done with reaktor player ? only have the basic reaktor sounds awesome
Your intro itself is already beyond me.
Hey man, making these edits you showed breaks all my POLY mode presets in the synth, I think the sine banks are separate for both MONO and POLY mode, can you please comment with how to increase the quality while taking POLY mode into account? I've been unsuccessful on doing so and am frustrated because all my mono presets sounds so much better but I'd really love to have the same option for POLY, thanks!
hello! does increasing the number of partials change the voice number in some way, do I get more voices?
Could your internal filter cut be the samplerate? 44100 = 22500 hz
Hey Austin, great video! I was wondering, do this concept apply to other synths like Serum and Massive?
This concept only applies to additive synths. Serum does have additive capabilities and goes up to 2048 partials iirc, which is plenty. In other synthesis something that parallels this concept would be something like sample resolution and aliasing artifacts, although that is a different type of degradation of sound.
@@au5music thank you !
could this work for NI prism?
unfortunately, I do not have the full version of reaktor. Is there a way for us to just download this edited version of razor and load it into reaktor player though?
How much does School of Bass cost? They don't list the price on the website...
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dont have edit mode in the new versions :'(
Hello Au5! nice tut! do you think is it possible to get into the edit panel of razor and "borrow" its own internal filters to use on something else (making a sort of "razor fx" version")? i was trying to but never been able and i was wondering if that's even possible... any ideas?
@halfred Ciao maestro! bello vederti qui! I don't think it's possible cuz Razor is basically one additive engine. The filters don't really filter - they tell the spectral engine to attenuate the partials (sine waves). Come visit plz
You can use the Vocoder module in filter one and send whatever sound you want in it and shape it with the other modules :)
The filter is there because of nyquist frequency to prevent folding?
Perhaps, however if your DAW sample rate is set to 96000 then that shouldn't be an issue. More investigation is required on my end.
interesting.
oh my god these sounds are incredibly HD
Nice video. This fix doesn't work for poly mode for some reason. Does it work for poly on your side?
Same issue, havent been able to find a fix for that, POLY is unusable with this edit and its a shame really
C0 = 16.352 Hz, technically below the human range of hearing (20 Hz to 20 kHz). Couldn't a similar output be achieved by simply using a higher root (in the 312 partial mode) or do higher roots still result in timbres where over 300 partials are necessary?
Can I subscribe just for a month?
Kinda ironic how FL’s Harmor is very similar in terms of what it was made of. It is also an additive synthesizer that has flexibility of subtractive synthesis. Even more ironic how Harmor was also made in 2011.
fuckin brilliant
Omfg yes
I actually think you also just pointed me to where I can hook up Razor for MPE. I'm totally gonna abuse this today for some vocoding.
hey, did you switch to Windows? :-)
sexy intro
That intro man..
Nice, but seems to have some drawbacks: After changing the mentioned value to e.g. 1500 some presets do not play anymore for certain note ranges (in SFX folder the presets 'Malaysian Mystery' and 'Subway Realms' won't play on lower notes).
increase the Voice Limit and lower notes should play again
@@selwaymusic Works! But since that limit has to be increased for every preset again it would perhaps make sense to change that value similar to your hack and store in the new ensemble as well.
Higher sample rate = higher frequency range before the "Fletcher Munson" curve theory steps in. AU5 hopefully you see this comment because you can research this sound theory because I know it can help you.
Any audio running at a processor at 44.1khz p/s will cut off around a little after 20khz. Set your sample rate higher and if your processor can handle it, it will be able to do the math and replicate the higher frequencies after 20k. Your sample rate at 44.1khz p/s "is" the filter cutting off your audio a little bit after 20khz.
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Fletcher Munson curve theory.
The Fletcher Munson curve is an equal-loudness contour based on human perception.
I believe you're referring to the Nyquist frequency. Setting sample rates higher than 44.1khz does give a higher quality sound within the human hearing range because it eliminates aliasing, particularly when doing FM or PM based synthesis where frequencies much higher than 22khz are being calculated.
That said, compared to other synthesizers generation of sawtooth waves, which do have a roll-off frequency dependent on DAW sample rate, Reaktor's Nyquist filter seems to be much steeper and conservative than other synths.
Threadripper! I should have known you'd be in the know about best hardware for creation. :)
You probably don't want to take that low pass off as its probably an AA filter ... incidentally there are other reasons not to use a sine bank of that size.
I tried this with 10.000 partials and x32 oversampling, with 4 convolvers... my CPU is now an atomic bomb 👍
how?
Some sort of fusion took place while my modest i5 13600k tried to cope with the cycles. I'm actually close to godzilla radiation wise
I just tested this out and the changes will only be saved on the preset you used while doing it, once you load another preset the changes are gone
I suggest using an initialized patch, making the tweak, and saving that. Make all of your presets from the modified initialized patch.
@@au5music What about third-party patches ?
@@damianlove19 I don't think it's possible
FUCK ME! that's a BRILLIANT hack! 10/5
Tru Feelz Blast? huh..
I noticed the use of Windows instead of MacOS.
Hard to get a threadripper cpu in an apple pc!
Razor just always ends with the same sound or it’s me
Is like saying Serum ends with the same sound. Maybe for some, it does
Au5 maybe go into razor sound design for a video, I know Kill Paris made one wayyy back I just feel like Razor is just 2 synths one for highs and “safe bass” that either ruins the sound completely or sticks out thanks
@@ExitStrategies I go in-depth with Razor sound design in the School Of Bass course. I do a full walkthrough of my song Infinite Wings. In fact most of the basses in that song are made with Razor. I don't think anyone has made sounds like that with Razor, but I'm open to be proven wrong.
Au5 Ight I’ll check it, have you ever considered just saying fuck it and pirating FLstudio 11 and making dumb experimental 1994 west coast r&b Sheryl Crow / Xscape type beats?
School of Bass seems like a great idea if you're in it, but tbh the vibe of the site gives me the same feeling as suspicious banner ads for penis enlargement pills or something lol. I see multiple exclamation marks and a wall of testimonials and I run
I don't make the website, just the course content! It's legitimate.
Playing in those extreme low octaves makes the difference very clear, but why would you do that, it makes no sense? The fundamental is like two octaves or more lower than the threshold of hearing. It's a contrived way to make Razor sound bad, and then to "fix it"!
(It reminds of that old joke: "Doctor, doctor, when i do this, it hurts!".... Doctor: "Then don't do it!")
A better test is to bring up Razor on two tracks, one with the normal settings and one tweaked (i'm getting 5000, no problem). Then scroll through the same presets on both instances while playing in a normal frequency range. And switch between the two. On a few presets i hear a dramatic difference, but on about 90% i really can't hear any difference. I do have the feeling that in general it makes the reverbs a bit smoother.
you arent a real sound designer unless youre utilizing subtonal octaves
@@au5music Really? Please explain the benefit of subtonal octaves ..............
@@retromograph3893 Making wavetables, as the standardized format has a window size of 2048 samples which is about 21.5 Hz at 44.1khz. Many companies that hire wavetable designers require this extended frequency range. Also to make stuff like this: soundcloud.com/au5/ultra-chord-pitchdown/s-5Q7lBDnHfke?si=76f16d840928471aa8ae00f6c6721c14&
@@au5music That sounds pretty cool, but i think it's a little far-fetched to say "you aren't a real sound designer" if you're not using an esoteric technique that would never be needed in 999 out of every 1000 sound design jobs. I checked some of your other stuff on your soundcloud so i appreciate that the technique might be pretty important in bro-step production, but those are sounds you don't hear much outside of that genre.
@@retromograph3893 youre the wrong dermographic for this video
This dude doesn't even know what he'st talking about ,
THere is no HIDDEN filter that cuts off the partials beyond 20 Khz , itl's al partials generated from the partial bank .
So why does the roll-off stay put regardless of the note frequency as opposed to keytracking like I demonstrated when there are low partials?
Also, why is said roll-off nonexistent in other subtractive synths?
@@au5music
Razor is NOT a subtractive synth , it's an additive synth that uses partials and reorganizes them, it mimicks the effect of filtering, chorussing , frequency shifting etc..
There is no filter present at all , except in the vocoder section but these are there to filter the input signal (modulator )into separate bands , but that is not part of the actual sound generation of razor itself .
Such roll off is existent in other certain synth , it depends if your turn the lp filter on or off
@@WARDISWARD I explain all that in this video. Seems like you're not listening to what I'm saying.
Why would there be a visible, static, roll-off at 20k that I'm showing in an additive synth (Razor) as opposed to a subtractive synth that DOESN'T have a roll-off at 20k, if there isn't some kind of built-in antialiasing filter?