A Revolutionary Share & Tell With Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard And Pablo | PTFO
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- Опубліковано 7 бер 2024
- What can we learn from the power-grab by NFL prodigy Caleb Williams and his stage dad? Why does Pablo always feel so bad about saying "no"? And how does one begin to argue better? Plus: Uncle Dennis, giant babies and literally sticking to sports.
Further reading:
Caleb Williams and Team Intend on Owning the Process (Kalyn Kahler)
theathletic.com/5301341/2024/...
The Mind-Boggling Simplicity of Learning to Say 'No' (Leslie Jamison)
www.nytimes.com/2024/02/28/we...
Overwhelmed? Just Say 'No.' (Arthur C. Brooks)
www.theatlantic.com/ideas/arc...
How Happy Couples Argue (Derek Thompson)
www.theatlantic.com/ideas/arc... - Спорт
I absolutely love these episodes. Look forward to which amazing friends Pablo will learn and laugh with each Friday. ❤❤❤
Mina going on a date with a modern-day pirate was not on my bingo card😅😅
At first I also thought his comment about her friend's face hair was a certain type of unnecessary comment, but your casting him as a pirate made me think, "maybe he found the face hair attractive". So, still a rude comment, but in a completely different way than I was initially thinking.
Middle segment was the Roast of Stugotz 😂
Can anyone else imagine watching Pablo and Mina having a laugh-off? I would probably die from laughter
It's so interesting to me how much people struggle to say no. To the point that Mina's baby is learning Chinese. 😂
I love this pod, Mina and Pablo are masterclass
Nothing gets me up in the morning like Pablo's infamous blue cardigan
It's very... Cobain...
I have literally never thought about any of this and I think I my knee jerk reaction would have been a bad take. Thanks for discussing this stuff.
Excellent topics, as usual! Thanks!!!
Best opening credits music ever
I still would like Pablo’s high filutent music they play on the show to be his theme
Feel like we need a separate show called Dan Finds Out About Dan
“EXPLAIN IT TO ME!”
- Dan LeBatard
😂😂 love you Dan.
"Dan is confuuuuuuused"
As a giant baby and the father of a former giant baby and now giant child, let me assure you being a giant doesn't prevent you from being bullied.
I’m first? Holy moly. You three together reminds me of Meadowlarkers, I actually miss that pod.
How did I forget about Medowlarkers?! What happened to it?
There's a client at my job who started calling me the name of another employee that no longer works with us. It's been going on for 3+ years now and I take my nametag off every time she comes in, because I felt bad correcting her 😂
This is a much easier listen than other sports face pods. It’s definitely growing on me. That said…
The media is hilarious for either criticizing Caleb, or bashing people for criticizing Caleb. Do people not understand that’s all social media is? These kids don’t care. That’s all they do to each other. When you’re making more $ than anyone in the media…and are legitimately “cooler” than most media dorks… it’s not that big of deal. Taylor Lewan is a tool with cartoon teeth.
I remember when they decided on the rookie wage scale. It made me laugh. Future players were the only ones not represented during the CBA negotiations and they were the ones that had to pay for the Sam Bradford contract. LOL
And jamarcus russell
Love the show, merely commenting to help the alg.
I remember the times before the rookie wage scale... I prefer the wage scale era by far
As someone who works a union job I can say at least at my job pay is negotiated by the union. I can be the best worker ever and my pay is still set by what the union can negotiate. I don’t know if this is true for all union jobs but not being able to negotiate your salary as a rookie is not as uncommon as we think.
Having not been in a union but coming from three generations of UAW, negotiating for yourself isn’t all that great. Having collective bargaining is a much better system than individual efforts.
@@colonialstraits1069 not saying it’s negative. Just saying that it’s not uncommon. They spoke as if the way the nfl works is different from normal jobs. I’m just pointing out that’s not necessarily the case. Love my union. Would never trade them.
It's a decent argument except it doesn't translate to the NFL where they do negotiate on their own and are paid based on performance and expectations except for this one deal at the beginning
@@billbixby7788 and in that one aspect it’s no different than any union job where the parameters are set before you’re hired based on previous union negotiations and if you don’t like them you wait until the new cba.
In some industries (like mine, TV/film production) the union negotiates the rules and sets the minimums. But if you’re particularly good, you can expect to make more than the minimum.
I say this every video. This is my favorite yet!
Here bright and early for my Pablo fix… 😂
If i were the Bears I would trade out of the first pick or go for another QB than Caleb.
The draft not being a lottery for the teams as always been crazy to me 💯✌🤟🤘
Thank you for allowing us into your regular "family Friday-feature fry-ups".
This is the effect of NIL deals. Caleb's dealt with multi million dollar deals before.
I predict that Caleb Williams won't be as good as everyone thinks..It will take him sum time to adjust to the speed of the NFL & by then when he finally gets it he will be just above an average QB in the NFL.
As a Bears fan, this is my worry.
I remember hearing the pitch of Stick to Sports being discussed. I think Billy may have been involved too.
I could watch Mina roast Dan for a good hour 😂
Any time my day starts with Mina Kimes talking football….. is a great day
Both my kids are in the 99% percentile in weight and height. I’m 6’ and mom’s 5’1”. Ones older than Mina’s kid and ones younger. The doctors still say she’s only going to be 5’4”. Doesn’t mean they’re right but, just because your baby is giant doesn’t mean they will continue to grow at that rate. Just wait and find out
The Circle of Feel Bad lol
Love that base rip at the beginning. 👽🍻
I need to read this last article. My wife and I probably are arguing bc we are having 2 different conversations. Can you also please link the articles?
Surely Mina, Pablo and Dan know that the draft was the result of a negotiation between the NFL and the Players Union. The currently employed players have an incentive to keep rookies from making too much money so they won't suffer the wage compression that one sees in other industries. The other players are as much to blame as are the owners. Yet they don't seem to acknowledge this at all.
Nfl draft was not the result of negotiation. Rookie pay scale was.
Gonna tell the ceo of my company I want equity in the company. Wish me luck.
PT maybe the greatest investment Lebatard has made since Stu Gotz 👀😱😱🤔
Mina almost did her DMX impression.
I agree that most first jobs are minimum wage jobs. The reason is because it is assumed the worker has 'no skills or education to command more. That is not related to the Caleb situation. These men are educated, both academically and football. You may not have heard Dan
Say 'the owners insisted on the clause to control the owner's propensity to offer mor😢e than anyone and jack up salaries.
Disagree with Mina that players/QBs should get equity - players are temporary employees and only expected to be with teams a relatively short time. They are basically 1099 contractors, you’d never give equity to such a worker. They bring no IP that the company relies on for their entire future.
After Mina made the point about someone’s son inventing something and all of these companies wanting them, is when you need Bomani to say, “But when it comes to BLACK people…”
I found out today, I am in the same shoes, I have my nanny downstairs.
Mina, set your nanny straight. Also reward your son for crapping the vicinity every time it's the nanny who has to clean it (until the point at which she is clear on everyone's heritage).
Do a story on Tiffany Henyard the Super Mayor
I argue passive aggressively bcus I despise Aggressive & ignorant confrontation but once the dust settles that's where the True Argument begins !! I go home and look in the mirror then proceed to have an Argument with myself lolol & it usually starts like,,,,"Don't U Ever let that Mofo get away with that again Gotdamit" !!!! Lololol U had him on the hook Why did u let'em Go lolol
These conversations should at least discuss the real issue: Salary caps, drafts and rookie pay scales are mechanisms to make sure smaller market teams can compete. Without small market teams, you don't have a league.
In association football in the UK - where teams sign players as young kids, but can then buy players - 5 teams have won 26 of the last 30 FA Cups. The 95 pro teams share the other 4. North American pro sports leagues would not exist with 30 teams given that little competition.
There's much more money to go around - including for the players - because players negotiate for a share of total revenue, then agree to a system for how that money gets divided up that acknowledges star players need teammates and opponents to play with or against. Those other non-superstar players have leverage and they are using it.
The premier league works just fine without prioritizing the needs of small market teams. The sacrifice of not doing so ensures the teams at the top are greater. Y'know, the teams that generate the most revenue.
@@EllisCarver Sure, but that assumes an entirely different marketplace and league structure. And the lowest paid players making far less with far fewer of them (~10 fewer teams) and the younger players losing far more money on rookie deals.
As a layperson, I can tell you that Caleb and his father do come off as entitled "quacks" who think they're smarter than the rest of us.
NFL franchises are not public companies to own equity in. Maybe the Packers have a different set-up but their demands make no sense. How does one own equity in this context? Mina, you're the finance person so explain. Also, the players have a union that bargains on their behalf. Is Caleb above it all, including the NFLPA?
This inclination of Dan and others to find injustice in every aspect of life is an exhausting way to interact with life. The rest of us don't care about disputes between billionaires and millionaires. We just want our sports teams to do well and bring us joy.
Also Caleb represents the 1% of players. Who's looking out for the middle class of players and players on the margins?
P.S. Pablo and Dan, there's a healthy middle in loving rltshps. Redpill and trad men are over-the-top and cringe but you don't have to acquiesce all the time to your significant other either. That is also cringe. If you can extend empathy to your partner and understand her perspective, it's not unreasonable to ask for the same.
Uh... what? You do realize almost no sports owners own 100% of their team, right?
On a more positive note,, if he catches on fast to the adjustments of 2days game he will replace Lamar Jacksons spot as the fastest & a more dangerous QB other than Mahomes...I guess what I'm saying is that he's got a 50/50 chance of being Great or just average.
Dan, your ignorance of the pay scale is the US is shocking. I work in an industry that supports talent management on a global scale. Most countries have a reasonably well established pay scale based on scarcity of talent, impact of roles on the bottom line, and job level within the organization. The U.S. is clearly a leader in this area. It might be the most American of things. God bless anyone who successfully bucks the system. I applaud them, but let’s not pretend managing the cost of talent is anything other than smart business.
On Pablo realizing and seemingly worrying about his problem being fixed by a cliche solution; every problem I've fixed with myself recently has been by following cliche advice I've heard my whole life and never heeded.
The idea of "fairness" is what drives everything from the normalized "draft" system to people freaking out because people have chosen to demonize a half dozen transwoman athletes in amateur sports. It's the most American of ideals.
I'm still rocking with Average bcus noo one else whose gone in the first round hasn't lived up to the Hype in the last what,, 15 to 20 yrs or possibly longer sooo,,, he will be OK But Not Great !!!
Almost every good qb in the league went in the first rd
Abolish the draft
💯
The equity conversation is where this conversation loses credibility. There could be a little more diversity of thought or challenging of assumptions. Ask yourself this: Would David Tepper, the worst and most desperate owner in sports, give Patrick Mahomes a piece of future revenues now until Judgement Day to play for the Panthers? The answer is no. There's no way Caleb Williams is getting a piece of the pie when the bust/underperform rate is over 50% for 1/1 in the NFL Draft...even if he was an unrestricted free agent.
Having no draft would ruin sports. How else are fans of small market teams or just bad teams supposed to get excited about the future?
why do you hate capitalism?
European soccer and basketball works just fine with no draft. Every team has an academy that develops kids and prepares them for professional sport.
@@EllisCarver whether euro football works great is debatable. euro bball works great as an NBA feeder league. but the question was what would fans of small market teams have to look forward to? relegation? or maybe a Ryan Reynolds revival?
Calm down dan no ones arguing with u
Pablo Torre to Wife My Job is More Important.
Caleb is going to work for a company, there are other football companies he could go work for and have more power/leverage in those companies if that's what he wants.
hes just olevn boring nowadys
Caleb Williams is grossly overrated! He will 100% be a bust. He was a bust this season. He’s not as good as the hype and he’s mentally soft and will end up crying in his mommy’s arms again.
This new generation wants special treatment. A star prospect going to a team that's already good so he can win sooner would be categorically unfair. Also, someone like Caleb should want to go to a lesser team so that he can be their savior and prove to the league that HE's HIM.
Imagine wanting to go work for a bad company just to prove you’re him. We really throw the logic out with sports. Nobody wants to work with people who aren’t good. And you’ll have to say something about the majority of pros who choose to play for major D1 programs instead of going to smaller schools.
Thinking about working with coworkers who aren’t good at their jobs and make you do all the work while you receive all the criticism lol. Sounds fun.
It's interesting how Mina uses Russell Wilson as the example of why QBs should get equity. Y'know, the guy who got paid 9 figures only to be jettisoned 2 years later. Yeah, that guy should get a stake in the "long term success" of the Broncos. And how would that have worked for Aaron Rodgers? He would get equity for the 4 snaps he played? This is nonsensical. And this is just for QBs? Like let's recreate the corporate model in the locker room. Give QBs the corner office on the 120th floor where they don't have to mingle with the rank and file. QBs already get paid disproportionately more than any other position, destroying markets for less valued players (like, say RBs, who everybody was weeping on the shore over last offseason) since the salary cap is a zero sum game. QBs are going to be fine. Even the moderately successful ones will earn generational wealth.
And Dan? You're right. In all other industries outside of sports, the parents of college graduates have a platform to lobby for how well their special child should be paid and what they will and won't be subjected to based ENTIRELY on potential and not actual job performance. And that has definitely translated to 20-somethings livin' large and earning more than the folks who have been doing that job for 15-20 years.
Can we stop with these comparisons to work outside of the unique world of professional sports? They are horrible takes.
The Rookie Wage Scale IS American! Tell me you’ve never worked a minimum wage job without telling me you’ve never worked a minimum wage job.
Even in corporate and non-profits, there are wage scales based on job titles. Bad take, Dan.
You have to understand the difference between working a minimum wage job, and being the most sought after person in the United States for a position, and then accepting minimum wage to do it.
Yah minimums is for the 7th round picks and even that isn’t a good comparable
@@fenycott5631 ya he really thought he was dunking on Dan there😂 comparing the potential number 1 overall pick to a minimum wage job aint it
Do we not remember Stafford's ridiculous rookie draft salary? 12 million a year before he had taken a snap right?
@@JunnKhanthe problem w stafford and bradford's contracts was because they were the first picks, you had to pay them. you can't just not pay those guys. the easy fix is eliminate the draft and let caleb go into free agency. you can still let goodell announce where he goes in a big ceremony but he gets to sign his own contract to his choice of team at fair market value
Dan is becoming more woke day by day.
Or...you are becoming more and more intolerant day by day.
Or are you becoming more sleep? 😴
Dan has always been like this. He is a very odd mix of annoying anarchist who thinks racism and classism define everything.
Pablos sad beard is distracting
The NFL should make a rule stating that you have to take every test at the combine to be eligible to be drafted.
Bigots.