Plus more rpm gets you more speed in long run why I hate big blocks with short gears owned one dad always loved them but nothing finer than doing 155mph at 9,000rpm with 4.10s in my 68 chevelle with my build 327 .030 over 4 speed Muncie:)
Yeah but longivity of the engine suffers much more at those rpms & engine rebuilds are much more frequent, high rpms are also much harder on the whole rotating assembly . It's much better to build a big inch big block or stroked small block that rev's less that makes just as much HP or more & more torque just because of the fact that it will last much longer between rebuilds costing less money down the road in rebuilds & parts. There are plenty of BB Chevrolet & old school 426 Hemi BB today that are in the 8 - 10,000 rpm range that will make more HP & torque over this 13,000 rpm small block & stay together longer at the same time.
Heads up....no delay box, index is the ground that all other Drag Racing is or should be built on.... pick your index, build to run it.....and don't lift....lifting is for loosers....I have a T-Shirt that says "Lift your foot....loose the race" on the front with a flaming skull and crossbones...and on the back it just says "lifting is for loosers" What is funny is "Dial in Bracket Racers" who go to a race and actually have to race their cars are round 1&2 ducks.....they have no earthly idea how to run when they have to bring their "A" game every round.....and can't sandbag....I honestly will haul hundreds of miles for an Index Race.....but won't go 40 to run at a Bracket race....it's a waste of time and money not to mention so freaking boring....it's no wonder the stands are empty at bracket races and over flowing at Index Races......I know their is an art to running that way but it's just too much like sandbagging for me....haul a legit mid 9 second car to a race and try to get it to run a consistent 10.70 all freakin day....that in my book is sandbagging.
@@IRONHORSE427RACING I dabble a lil in bracket racing. I run no electronics, and I run my car as fast as it'll go period... Every pass... No sandbagging ever... Build the car to be consistent... Now that's an art..
My 66 Chevelle SS came from the factory with a big block 396 , It's been gone for over 25 years , Replaced with a built small block 327 , 12:1 Forged pistons, Forged steel Vette crank , in a 4 bolt main 350 block , ported heads , aluminum intake, 750cfm carb ,it had a 1050 Holley Dominator , Comp cam, it had a Crane camshaft , HEI DISTRIBUTOR , Headers , 11 inch clutch, Lakewood Blow Proof bell housing, M-21 Muncie 4 speed trans , it had a race Automatic with 3500 stall , 12 bolt posi rear end , pulls both front tires off the ground , Revs to the moon , 11,000rpm before the valves start to float , 450hp Runs 11.5 @127 mph in the 1/4 mile That stock big block from the factory could NEVER do what this little 327 could , it Revs higher and faster and weighs 100lbs lighter than the big block
@@jimthomas1989 my friend I'm a Ford man because I grew up in Dearborn Michigan and most of my family have all worked at Ford but I love GM Chrysler I love them all but I have to admit you have the most badass bow tie I have ever seen. My favorite Chevys of course are the 69 RS Camaro I love the 69 Nova also and Corvette Stingray. If Ever I hit the lottery I want to build a car just like yours. Always thought there was something magical about 3:27 displacement in fact my uncle who used to test drive vehicles at the Ford test track stated to me he thought the 327 Chevy engine was the strongest engine they had. I understand your build you have a 350 4-bolt block that's Ultra impressive that you can get that block to hold together with those RPMs. Super impressive engine super impressive car kudos to you God bless.
@@iggyfritz7150 , if you like the small block 327 , The small block 307 is a 327 crank in a 283 block The DZ 302 is a 283 crank in a 327 block I also have a 74 Nova , Bumpers removed and pulled up tight against the body , small block 327 , 10:1 pistons , MSD distributor and multi-spark box , 750cfm carb, Aluminum intake, Stainless Steel Headers , 11 inch clutch , SFI certified flywheel , M-21 Muncie 4 speed , 12 bolt posi with traction bars , bucket seats , no rear seat , Battery and Radiator mounted in the trunk , hood opens from rear like tilt front end , I call it X-27 X-27 is Nova vehicle code like Z-28 Camaro vehicle code . I have 12 small block Chevy engines and 18 cars and trucks , I been pulling 4 cylinders and V-6 engines and adding V-8s I had one Ford , it was my first car . A 67 Thunderbird , 428 big block , It went Boom ! I had 1 Dodge and 1 Plymouth 68 Coronet and a 70 Cuda , Then it's been Chevy ever since ,
@@jimthomas1989 wow that is very impressive list of cars yeah I love a 70 Cuda myself I used to go to Detroit Dragway every chance I had I got to see the original snake and Mongoose race I totally understand why so many people love Chevys they are strong they take a lot of abuse easy to work on unlike Fords some of them are complete nightmare to work on and my choice of engines from Ford definitely 351 Cleveland I owned a few of those of course the 427 the 429 Thunder jet and all the Cobra jet engines And my favorites are the 289 and 302 really Ford didn't put as much into the production cars to be raced on the street Like GM and Chrysler did in fact if it wasn't for Carroll Shelby Ford really wasn't that big into racing. I have a wealthy uncle in the mountains North Carolina last time I saw him he had a Chevy Love pickup truck with a 327 with a high-rise two big Holly carbs on top tilt front end awesome vehicle. There's a local guy around the Detroit area has a 69 RS Camaro with a 472 blown with nitrous that car is scary. God I could go on all day I've seen so many phenomenal cars in my lifetime I'm 62 I grew up in the Motor City every other house either had a race car or a muscle car I remember one gentleman had a tilt front end Anglia with a Ford 427 soch motor with velocity stacks it was called the stripper every time he started his engine my mother's dishes would rattle in the cupboards. He lives six houses away. Friday and Saturday nights everyone would meet at the McDonald's on Telegraph Road some guys just came from the track and they'd race on the street for big money you'd see cars wheels up in the air sometimes well thanks for sharing about the engines and vehicles you have. Oh almost forgot to mention when I was in the Air Force a friend of mine had an all original 302 Trans Am Camaro it was silver loved the sound of that engine. Who knows maybe one day I'll see you at the track. I plan on going to the four-lane track in North Carolina this summer. Again you must be a master engine builder car builder for that matter because that video of your car is just unreal. I've seen a lot of cars racing my day but yours is jaw dropper. Keep that Chevy flag flying buddy peace out.
@@iggyfritz7150 , this is NOT my video and that isn't my car , I am a small block engine builder though , We are the same age and I too grew up watching Don The Snake Purdomme and Big Daddy Don Garlits and The Mongoose , Jungle Jim , Grumpy Jenkins , and all the greats of that time , I was so impressed with engines I became an Auto Mechanic , Then I learned Welding and Fabrication , I did Mechanic work for other people and then started on my own stuff , Every couple of years I would get another vehicle and start building , My newest vehicle is a 98 Chevy S-10 , It's got a rebuilt 350 , Stock with a lunani camshaft , 750cfm carb, Headers , I doubt it pushes 300hp , but in a S-10 short bed that's enough for me , I enjoy these videos of others doing the same thing as me , I'm old school and never had one of these LS engines in cars today , I don't need any computer running an engine , old fashioned hp is just fine , I can lay black marks 400 feet and pull both front tires off the ground , Let a computer do that . That Rev limiter thing would put a stop to before it begins , and my engines have no limits , I took the Lesson from Big Daddy Don Garlits , he would set his engine on the dyno at 5000rpm , then go eat lunch and if it was running 20 minutes later when he got back , he installed it in his dragster , they were only getting about 3000 horse then , it's like 12 Thousand now 3 seconds in the quarter mile .
A wicked nova, at least 10,000 off the line. Come on people you have to respect this car. Torque isn't important with enough rear gear and reciprocating mass. Lots of gear jammers run a heavy flywheel on a small displacement. Turn it to the moon and let it eat.
Yessir, as long as its not sprint racing where you need the lightness for accel out of the corners, they run an uber heavy flywheel to compensate, and they have to add the weight somewhere anyway. John Anzelmo used to launch at 10,400 I believe and he had a bracket similar to this, he used a custom 60lb flywheel I believe, with 5.73s or 6.13s in the rear
+71novagearjammer - I agree with your post but I doubt this Nova has a very heavy flywheel. Listen how quickly the engine revs and falls off just after he does his burnout. Heavy flywheels generally fall off the revs slowly. It's probably a fairly light, full bodied car that relies upon the gear ratios from both the 5 speed transmission and rear gear set for it's amazing launch instead of a heavy flywheel. I'd love to see some specs on the entire setup.
Racer yes but the rear gear being so short (5:83 for example) will let your engine rev up and down quicker while doing a burnout, but for sure not a heavy flywheel, atleast don’t sound that way
Respect is one thing. 12,000 RPM is quite another. If he leaves at a 10 grand clutch dump, and shifts at 10,200 RPM, so be it. But 10,200 is NOT 12,000.
fastest street car launch i have seen,, its got to be demoralizing on the competition :) he was pulling after him fast though, two fast cars there, gud race
I can really appreciate the high revving small blocks. I also love the deep grunt of the big blocks. I've had both. I've built both. I probably prefer the raw torque of the big blocks a little more, but revving the hell out of a small block is SO much fun!!! Can't go wrong either way if you ask me!
60 ft times low 1.20's. Car is 1/8 mile so this is a full pass 5.90 117 mph. Launch at 10,000 and shift 10,200. Car weighs 3150 so hp est between 7 and 800
You’d leave the line higher up than the shift point by a about 800rpm, an upshift doesn’t drop you down like a launch does, unless you’re transmission has a seriously crazy wide ratio...in my BF’s car he left the line at either 7,800 or 8,100 feathering the clutch on the launch and shifted at or 7,400-7,700, but couldn’t keep the front wheels down, too violent, he went with more stroke and bore, dropped the rpm down to 7,100, picked up a little more power a lot more torque and a little more traction, and would have gained about two seconds in the quarter but ran out of twist at 1,100 feet at the end of the season. To fix, he went with a taller tire profile, but never ran it again, because it got stolen from the paint shop when the business owner skipped town without notice. He was livid!
@@montana1636 yo, my father's drag car got stolen. There's not many of them at all either. It's a British body. All glass, looks like a opal gt. Or a mini late 60s early 70s vette that shrunk. A j2000 or something like that it was called. Hot rod mag did a special on a different surviving one. It looked like shit (the one on hotrod mag) but ours was wicked. Serious head turner. The front looked like an ac cobra front end or like a Porsche/datsun 280z type lookin deal... The entire car was pinned together. Easy to maintain etc. I miss the car, would steal it back in a heartbeat. (No title to cars like this)
60' with the rear wheels....i love it. I miss the modified production cars at etown. I remember a 67 camaro that had a 272 cid that revved like a formula 1 ferrari it was ear splitting
I can really appreciate a car that launches so powerful and smooth and comes down off the perfect wheelie without a bunch of histryonics. Can you give me as many details as possible about your rear suspension setup? Love this kind of car, takes me back to modified production cars in the 70's and 80's. And to those who say 8000, no that's quite a bit more than 8000, I know that sound. Thanks.
ok. everyone says" this and that"......but the one thing that will always end up the same is ......that nova is completely, 100% ultra super bad ass, top king, select, and also pretty much uber dope X:s 10 ......................... god bless and take care
Hard on parts. Any internal engine component that fails at these RPM levels, results in almost total destruction of entire engine. Risky compromise, but fun to watch.
Many many years ago I was spectating at OCIR and a high winding small block gear jammer that I enjoyed watching because he launched around 9,000 rpm - wild crazy launches. Only this time when he took his foot off the clutch pedal there was the most violent clutch explosion I ever witnessed. Some of the pieces ended up in an unoccupied section of the grandstand. I believe he got hurt, just not Don Garlits bad. I don’t recall if anyone else was hurt.
very impressive ! the title is what caught my eye , but i had a feeling it was 10,00 rpms ! what cyl. heads are they ? sb2 ? 18 , 15 , 13 ? degree , what are the flow #'s if you know them ?compression ratio ? , it's hard to make big comp. in such a little motor . the car is awesome ! for 3150 lbs , this thing is getting 60 ft times of a 2500 lb , or 8 sec. drag car . keep making videos of this , love to watch it . and i hope you guys hit the 1/4 mile with it one day
@@Roadglide911 I slowed the video down and watched the tree, the nova got 1/3 of the way down the track before the Camaro got a green light. There was a big spot on the tree.
Announcer say's his dial in time at about 50sec. indicating this was a bracket race? ANd I think he says something about better not break out... or needs to get out toward the end?
Oh, shut up. The channel owner stated that the car has a 2.8" stroke and at 12,000 RPM, would equate to a whole whopping 93 FPS !! That's right, ONLY _NINTY-THREE_ FPS. Not even 100, lol! Learn math, learn to research, and for the love of everything, learn to stop talking about things you don't know. And for those doubting my numbers, suck on this: www.csgnetwork.com/pistonspeedcalc.html
The stroke on a 283 is already short enough to go well beyond 12,000 RPM. A Chevy 427 can rev that high based on stroke alone. The true limiting factor is the valvetrain. Once you get past 7,000 RPM valve float becomes a real issue. Once you get past 10,000 RPM the float problem becomes bigger and breakage becaomes a huge problem for the entire valvetrain. Considering you pointed out it's a small part of the equation, I'm assuming you already know all of this though. :-)
Steve, I think it would be 40 over. I had a 57 chev that I built a 283 for. This was in 1964. I had to bore it 40 over.ck Turned out to be 289 cu in. I remember sticking one of the stickers from a ford engine on the aircleaner. It was one of those bright orange with black checkerboard that stated 289 cu in.
My little 327 screams to the moon like that, 450hp , about 11,000rpms and the valves start to float , going into a Lakewood blow proof Bellhousing , 11 inch clutch and M-21 Muncie 4 speed trans , and then a 12 bolt posi rear end
How many passes on a set of valve springs? Back when i was a track photog at CMD, during the points meet there was a 66 Nova running in SS, sponsored by Golden Racing Engines, he left the line somewhere around 12,750 and shifted at 11,500. Two passes and the springs were done. The sound when he left the line would make your hair stand up on your arms. This was back in 87 or 88.
YUP I was there too!! OMG yess I remember and one day he just pulled out all the stops and turned the rev limiter to 14,380 rpm and let er fly! MAke murica great again, long live the sbf Yay!!!!
I kept picturing a herd of Nascar ducking into the 3rd left during that burnout.... Incredible RPM you got coming outta that thing. I'm researching what it would take to get 9k out of a 6.0L w12. Without de-stroking it. Turns out a stock crate is $5k who knew...
its not bracket racing! The nova is 10.5 lbs per cuin and the camaro is 4.5 lbs per cuin. Thats why the nova leaves first. Nova has a 5.90 index and the camaro has a 4.80 index, there for giving the nova a 1.2 sec head start.
Actually its horsepower to weight, torque to weight and whole lot of other things and if it meant nothing why would it be used as a handicap rule in this race series? Please be a scrub elsewhere thanks.
lbs per cubic inch is the "class" you're assigned. Weight of the car and the cid you claim gives you the starting advantage or disadvantage. If you've ever raced before, you would know that. F.T.
I believe someone in the comments said it was de-stroked a bit, but i'd assume fully built internals with some awesome bearings, a hell of a camshaft, massive intake/exhaust ports and alot of fuel lol
Actually 1 anything over about 450 lbs it's a waste its been proven on the spintron, 2 just like nascar engines that turn 9-10k all day long and run a engine till it blows. Its a De-stroked 305 with a tiny bore like what the 260ci v8s had with the lighter weight comes the ability to spin a whole lot faster, as to the valve train I'd suspect that they are running shaft mounted rockers with titanium everything and probably around 400-450lb springs with some big ass heads and valves probably have at least a 1000cfm carb jmo
He never hit 12,000 rpm or it would have exploded. No push rod v8 can hit 12 grand and live it is physics and design. Show me one v8 pushrod motor hit real 12,000 rpm and not blow up instantly, show me. Quit exaggerati g rpm on push rod motors 10 grand for more than 2 seconds grenades never make 12 grand
Torque is cheaper than RPM`s, but quick is quick! Who built that motor? Keeping one together at that RPM is quite an accomplishment! I love hearing those revs!!!
Sounds good, Rpm isn't everything. A top fuel dragster from the moment it crosses the beams all the way to the finish line the engine only turns 300 RPM to the tires. Think on that. 320 mph in 3.3 seconds using only 300 RPMS. DO THE MATH.
What accelerates the car? Torque at the rear tire! If you can spin 12,000 RPM you can run a lot lower gear (larger torque multiplier). If you get your HP from RPM rather than engine torque just gear down to compensate for that rear tire torque! Easy peasy! Just basic physics which a lot of hacks don’t understand because some idiot told them different years back! lm@o!
Stroke has nothing to do with rpm. We have 4.165 stroke 5.4 engines revving to 11,200 rpm. I wish people would stop spreading this horrible information.
Horsepower is just another way of describing torque at high rpms... it's the same torque that pulls down low, but it's laying it down at high rpms that's all.
screw the torque and horsepower curves, the _inertia_ of that rotating assembly carried the car over 60 feet in just over a second. no bog, no hesitation whatsoever. lets see you do that with your torque curve.
That's awesome, I'd like to see similar engine screaming across the salt flats as well. That car hooks and it takes a hell of a driver to ride that hook out, congrats !
Who ever said torque is all that gets you going? Obviously 12000 rpm's does just fine too!
With more rpm, you can run shorter gears.
Plus more rpm gets you more speed in long run why I hate big blocks with short gears owned one dad always loved them but nothing finer than doing 155mph at 9,000rpm with 4.10s in my 68 chevelle with my build 327 .030 over 4 speed Muncie:)
Yeah but longivity of the engine suffers much more at those rpms & engine rebuilds are much more frequent, high rpms are also much harder on the whole rotating assembly . It's much better to build a big inch big block or stroked small block that rev's less that makes just as much HP or more & more torque just because of the fact that it will last much longer between rebuilds costing less money down the road in rebuilds & parts. There are plenty of BB Chevrolet & old school 426 Hemi BB today that are in the 8 - 10,000 rpm range that will make more HP & torque over this 13,000 rpm small block & stay together longer at the same time.
Shit im at 8rpm on.mybdaily driver lt1 95
Torque IS all that gets your going.
Thats how you launch a small cubic inch car right there, 12G clutch dump!
Rumor has it...The trans internals are made of straight dolomite.
Looks like a giant just kicked it.
Jesus my yz250 is done at 7900
5.7 l small cubic inch. Crazy guys 😅
Badass !!!!
To each their own. thats what makes everyone different. Its high winding small blocks for me.
Heads up....no delay box, index is the ground that all other Drag Racing is or should be built on.... pick your index, build to run it.....and don't lift....lifting is for loosers....I have a T-Shirt that says "Lift your foot....loose the race" on the front with a flaming skull and crossbones...and on the back it just says "lifting is for loosers"
What is funny is "Dial in Bracket Racers" who go to a race and actually have to race their cars are round 1&2 ducks.....they have no earthly idea how to run when they have to bring their "A" game every round.....and can't sandbag....I honestly will haul hundreds of miles for an Index Race.....but won't go 40 to run at a Bracket race....it's a waste of time and money not to mention so freaking boring....it's no wonder the stands are empty at bracket races and over flowing at Index Races......I know their is an art to running that way but it's just too much like sandbagging for me....haul a legit mid 9 second car to a race and try to get it to run a consistent 10.70 all freakin day....that in my book is sandbagging.
@@IRONHORSE427RACING I dabble a lil in bracket racing. I run no electronics, and I run my car as fast as it'll go period... Every pass... No sandbagging ever... Build the car to be consistent... Now that's an art..
Only if I could get my Honda to sound like this😃
That has to be the most impressive launch I've ever witnessed. The sound is to die for. Should be called " SUPER NOVA"
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My 66 Chevelle SS came from the factory with a big block 396 ,
It's been gone for over 25 years ,
Replaced with a built small block 327 ,
12:1 Forged pistons, Forged steel Vette crank , in a 4 bolt main 350 block , ported heads , aluminum intake, 750cfm carb ,it had a 1050 Holley Dominator , Comp cam, it had a Crane camshaft , HEI DISTRIBUTOR , Headers , 11 inch clutch, Lakewood Blow Proof bell housing, M-21 Muncie 4 speed trans , it had a race Automatic with 3500 stall , 12 bolt posi rear end , pulls both front tires off the ground , Revs to the moon , 11,000rpm before the valves start to float , 450hp
Runs 11.5 @127 mph in the 1/4 mile
That stock big block from the factory could NEVER do what this little 327 could , it Revs higher and faster and weighs 100lbs lighter than the big block
@@jimthomas1989 my friend I'm a Ford man because I grew up in Dearborn Michigan and most of my family have all worked at Ford but I love GM Chrysler I love them all but I have to admit you have the most badass bow tie I have ever seen. My favorite Chevys of course are the 69 RS Camaro I love the 69 Nova also and Corvette Stingray. If Ever I hit the lottery I want to build a car just like yours. Always thought there was something magical about 3:27 displacement in fact my uncle who used to test drive vehicles at the Ford test track stated to me he thought the 327 Chevy engine was the strongest engine they had. I understand your build you have a 350 4-bolt block that's Ultra impressive that you can get that block to hold together with those RPMs. Super impressive engine super impressive car kudos to you God bless.
@@iggyfritz7150 , if you like the small block 327 ,
The small block 307 is a 327 crank in a 283 block
The DZ 302 is a 283 crank in a 327 block
I also have a 74 Nova ,
Bumpers removed and pulled up tight against the body , small block 327 ,
10:1 pistons , MSD distributor and multi-spark box , 750cfm carb, Aluminum intake, Stainless Steel Headers , 11 inch clutch , SFI certified flywheel , M-21 Muncie 4 speed , 12 bolt posi with traction bars , bucket seats , no rear seat , Battery and Radiator mounted in the trunk , hood opens from rear like tilt front end , I call it X-27
X-27 is Nova vehicle code like Z-28 Camaro vehicle code .
I have 12 small block Chevy engines and 18 cars and trucks ,
I been pulling 4 cylinders and V-6 engines and adding V-8s
I had one Ford , it was my first car .
A 67 Thunderbird , 428 big block ,
It went Boom !
I had 1 Dodge and 1 Plymouth
68 Coronet and a 70 Cuda ,
Then it's been Chevy ever since
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@@jimthomas1989 wow that is very impressive list of cars yeah I love a 70 Cuda myself I used to go to Detroit Dragway every chance I had I got to see the original snake and Mongoose race I totally understand why so many people love Chevys they are strong they take a lot of abuse easy to work on unlike Fords some of them are complete nightmare to work on and my choice of engines from Ford definitely 351 Cleveland I owned a few of those of course the 427 the 429 Thunder jet and all the Cobra jet engines
And my favorites are the 289 and 302 really Ford didn't put as much into the production cars to be raced on the street
Like GM and Chrysler did in fact if it wasn't for Carroll Shelby Ford really wasn't that big into racing. I have a wealthy uncle in the mountains North Carolina last time I saw him he had a Chevy Love pickup truck with a 327 with a high-rise two big Holly carbs on top tilt front end awesome vehicle. There's a local guy around the Detroit area has a 69 RS Camaro with a 472 blown with nitrous that car is scary. God I could go on all day I've seen so many phenomenal cars in my lifetime I'm 62 I grew up in the Motor City every other house either had a race car or a muscle car I remember one gentleman had a tilt front end Anglia with a Ford 427 soch motor with velocity stacks it was called the stripper every time he started his engine my mother's dishes would rattle in the cupboards. He lives six houses away. Friday and Saturday nights everyone would meet at the McDonald's on Telegraph Road some guys just came from the track and they'd race on the street for big money you'd see cars wheels up in the air sometimes well thanks for sharing about the engines and vehicles you have. Oh almost forgot to mention when I was in the Air Force a friend of mine had an all original 302 Trans Am Camaro it was silver loved the sound of that engine. Who knows maybe one day I'll see you at the track. I plan on going to the four-lane track in North Carolina this summer. Again you must be a master engine builder car builder for that matter because that video of your car is just unreal. I've seen a lot of cars racing my day but yours is jaw dropper.
Keep that Chevy flag flying buddy peace out.
@@iggyfritz7150 , this is NOT my video and that isn't my car ,
I am a small block engine builder though ,
We are the same age and I too grew up watching Don The Snake Purdomme and Big Daddy Don Garlits and The Mongoose , Jungle Jim , Grumpy Jenkins , and all the greats of that time ,
I was so impressed with engines I became an Auto Mechanic ,
Then I learned Welding and Fabrication ,
I did Mechanic work for other people and then started on my own stuff , Every couple of years I would get another vehicle and start building ,
My newest vehicle is a 98 Chevy S-10 ,
It's got a rebuilt 350 ,
Stock with a lunani camshaft , 750cfm carb, Headers , I doubt it pushes 300hp , but in a S-10 short bed that's enough for me ,
I enjoy these videos of others doing the same thing as me , I'm old school and never had one of these LS engines in cars today , I don't need any computer running an engine , old fashioned hp is just fine ,
I can lay black marks 400 feet and pull both front tires off the ground ,
Let a computer do that .
That Rev limiter thing would put a stop to before it begins , and my engines have no limits ,
I took the Lesson from Big Daddy Don Garlits , he would set his engine on the dyno at 5000rpm , then go eat lunch and if it was running 20 minutes later when he got back , he installed it in his dragster , they were only getting about
3000 horse then , it's like 12 Thousand now 3 seconds in the quarter mile .
A wicked nova, at least 10,000 off the line. Come on people you have to respect this car. Torque isn't important with enough rear gear and reciprocating mass. Lots of gear jammers run a heavy flywheel on a small displacement. Turn it to the moon and let it eat.
Yessir, as long as its not sprint racing where you need the lightness for accel out of the corners, they run an uber heavy flywheel to compensate, and they have to add the weight somewhere anyway. John Anzelmo used to launch at 10,400 I believe and he had a bracket similar to this, he used a custom 60lb flywheel I believe, with 5.73s or 6.13s in the rear
+71novagearjammer - I agree with your post but I doubt this Nova has a very heavy flywheel. Listen how quickly the engine revs and falls off just after he does his burnout. Heavy flywheels generally fall off the revs slowly. It's probably a fairly light, full bodied car that relies upon the gear ratios from both the 5 speed transmission and rear gear set for it's amazing launch instead of a heavy flywheel. I'd love to see some specs on the entire setup.
Racer yes but the rear gear being so short (5:83 for example) will let your engine rev up and down quicker while doing a burnout, but for sure not a heavy flywheel, atleast don’t sound that way
Respect is one thing. 12,000 RPM is quite another. If he leaves at a 10 grand clutch dump, and shifts at 10,200 RPM, so be it. But 10,200 is NOT 12,000.
would it make a good quarter mile car? looks like it runs out of top end pretty quick on the 1/8 mile?
fastest street car launch i have seen,, its got to be demoralizing on the competition :) he was pulling after him fast though, two fast cars there, gud race
I can really appreciate the high revving small blocks. I also love the deep grunt of the big blocks. I've had both. I've built both. I probably prefer the raw torque of the big blocks a little more, but revving the hell out of a small block is SO much fun!!! Can't go wrong either way if you ask me!
The nova belonged to a friend of my husband. They grew up watching modified eliminator and are trying to keep grassroots racing alive
This is a lie
AphexTwin disprove them. Provide a counter argument based on only facts and evidence.
@@willpitts9957 because I'm the guy that owns the nova and that's not his wife.
@@AphexTwinII Hows it feel to see people commenting on that beautiful piece of machinery of yours?
AphexTwin provide evidence
that launch is just... GOD DAMN
Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain. Exodus 20 7 KJV
Alanna Nicole, if you think that Nova is only turning 8,000, you better buy one of those new fangled Ear Wax Removers cause you need one badly!
Robert Hill Hey she builds 10500 rpm motors. Didn't you read what she wrote?? People don't lie on the internet....
Might be the fastest leaving the line that I've ever seen. 💀
Stout run. Takes tremendous skill to build an engine like that.
Money.
60 ft times low 1.20's. Car is 1/8 mile so this is a full pass 5.90 117 mph. Launch at 10,000 and shift 10,200. Car weighs 3150 so hp est between 7 and 800
That thing is friggin NUTS! Great engineering. what are you running for rear gears?
What's the motor combo??? That's one wicked motor
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You’d leave the line higher up than the shift point by a about 800rpm, an upshift doesn’t drop you down like a launch does, unless you’re transmission has a seriously crazy wide ratio...in my BF’s car he left the line at either 7,800 or 8,100 feathering the clutch on the launch and shifted at or 7,400-7,700, but couldn’t keep the front wheels down, too violent, he went with more stroke and bore, dropped the rpm down to 7,100, picked up a little more power a lot more torque and a little more traction, and would have gained about two seconds in the quarter but ran out of twist at 1,100 feet at the end of the season. To fix, he went with a taller tire profile, but never ran it again, because it got stolen from the paint shop when the business owner skipped town without notice. He was livid!
@@montana1636 yo, my father's drag car got stolen. There's not many of them at all either. It's a British body. All glass, looks like a opal gt. Or a mini late 60s early 70s vette that shrunk. A j2000 or something like that it was called. Hot rod mag did a special on a different surviving one. It looked like shit (the one on hotrod mag) but ours was wicked. Serious head turner. The front looked like an ac cobra front end or like a Porsche/datsun 280z type lookin deal... The entire car was pinned together. Easy to maintain etc. I miss the car, would steal it back in a heartbeat. (No title to cars like this)
jesus what a launch.
Me when I miss 3rd and put it back in 1st.
60' with the rear wheels....i love it. I miss the modified production cars at etown. I remember a 67 camaro that had a 272 cid that revved like a formula 1 ferrari it was ear splitting
I can really appreciate a car that launches so powerful and smooth and comes down off the perfect wheelie without a bunch of histryonics. Can you give me as many details as possible about your rear suspension setup? Love this kind of car, takes me back to modified production cars in the 70's and 80's. And to those who say 8000, no that's quite a bit more than 8000, I know that sound. Thanks.
ok. everyone says" this and that"......but the one thing that will always end up the same is ......that nova is completely, 100% ultra super bad ass, top king, select, and also pretty much uber dope X:s 10 ......................... god bless and take care
Hard on parts. Any internal engine component that fails at these RPM levels, results in almost total destruction of entire engine. Risky compromise, but fun to watch.
kanukster An engine that fails at 8000, 7000, even 5000 RPM can destroy the entire engine just as bad.
Pretty hard to control high rpm timing back in the day with dual point distributors wasn't it?
it would be more fun to drive
That's why you build it right to begin with to take it short strokes take a lot of abuse 265s, 283s, 302s, 307s and 327s
It has to be worth it tho
That quick rev up and down at 0:16 is the best sound ever
Your nova is insane!! Your 60 foot looks like zero seconds and the no nonsense high rpm launch is wicked!
Many many years ago I was spectating at OCIR and a high winding small block gear jammer that I enjoyed watching because he launched around 9,000 rpm - wild crazy launches. Only this time when he took his foot off the clutch pedal there was the most violent clutch explosion I ever witnessed. Some of the pieces ended up in an unoccupied section of the grandstand. I believe he got hurt, just not Don Garlits bad. I don’t recall if anyone else was hurt.
that's a fucken insane 60 foot
+Bash Smith no shit man he was WHEELING PAST 60 and well on to 70
+Bash Smith NO DOUBT MAN THAT BEAST LEFT SO HARD! THE PAVEMENT WAS CRYIN!
very impressive ! the title is what caught my eye , but i had a feeling it was 10,00 rpms ! what cyl. heads are they ? sb2 ? 18 , 15 , 13 ? degree , what are the flow #'s if you know them ?compression ratio ? , it's hard to make big comp. in such a little motor . the car is awesome ! for 3150 lbs , this thing is getting 60 ft times of a 2500 lb , or 8 sec. drag car . keep making videos of this , love to watch it . and i hope you guys hit the 1/4 mile with it one day
Sounds like a 9000 rpm launch. When does he do 12k? Through the lights? That takes balls.
Hes leaving at well over 10,000 rpms..
Lane Gibbs sounded like he floored it half a second before the light then just dumped the clutch
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Spine chilling sound! Nothing Asian or European can match!
Mongo Like Candy amen! God bless America
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doesnt sound close wtf
@@Lucidbkeo are you stupid??
Sounds better than a flat plane crank! Lol
At those rpm is it does sound like a flat plane crank and yes many ferraris are flat plane.
Seen that guy before at the rock. That hole shot is friggin wicked
also, first to finish line wins! None of that "Oh woops, i went too fast and broke. Its an index class, not a dial in!
Oh so the Nova and Camaro got the Green at the same time?
@@Roadglide911 I slowed the video down and watched the tree, the nova got 1/3 of the way down the track before the Camaro got a green light. There was a big spot on the tree.
Announcer say's his dial in time at about 50sec. indicating this was a bracket race? ANd I think he says something about better not break out... or needs to get out toward the end?
@GCSeeg09 4.0 bore based block and a 2.8 stroke
No wonder it can rev so high
That is 281.5 cubic inch.
I’ll take screaming small cuber anytime over a stroker motor!!
This is music to my ears and been watcing this video for years 😍
Solid lifter cam, that 383 stroker raps pretty good. Hear mine spin about 8000 in the 96 VHS Burnouts&Boobs
Obviously hes got a incrediable engine builder
that's about 6900 fps of piston speed holy shit
A lot of common handgun bullets travel at 1,000 feet per second.
FPM? Mighty impressive! I'm going to read all of this...
suttonracing
that's what I was thinkin'
must gas port the rings
That's comparable to NASCAR piston speeds, I think.
Oh, shut up. The channel owner stated that the car has a 2.8" stroke and at 12,000 RPM, would equate to a whole whopping 93 FPS !! That's right, ONLY _NINTY-THREE_ FPS. Not even 100, lol! Learn math, learn to research, and for the love of everything, learn to stop talking about things you don't know. And for those doubting my numbers, suck on this: www.csgnetwork.com/pistonspeedcalc.html
yep 3rd gear burnout. Rear gear is 6.67
This is your car? What's it say on the side I couldn't read it? Definitely wondering engine/trans combo
That's an expensive valvetrain in that car. The rev kit, titanium pushrods, rockers, valves and possibly springs
The stroke on a 283 is already short enough to go well beyond 12,000 RPM. A Chevy 427 can rev that high based on stroke alone. The true limiting factor is the valvetrain. Once you get past 7,000 RPM valve float becomes a real issue. Once you get past 10,000 RPM the float problem becomes bigger and breakage becaomes a huge problem for the entire valvetrain. Considering you pointed out it's a small part of the equation, I'm assuming you already know all of this though. :-)
Yeah.... that 427 would have a piston speed of 7,559 fpm @ 12,000 rpm. Not going to happen, lol
Must be tricky getting an accurate 60 ft. time with the wheels in the air.
I never gave thought it might be a 283 .30 over. I have never seen a 283 perform like that.
My Dad used to run a 283 and eat them up. 75 Nova l miss that car.
Steve, I think it would be 40 over. I had a 57 chev that I built a 283 for. This was in 1964. I had to bore it 40 over.ck Turned out to be 289 cu in. I remember sticking one of the stickers from a ford engine on the aircleaner. It was one of those bright orange with black checkerboard that stated 289 cu in.
No, it is a 327/350 4" bore with a custom 2.7" short stroke crank. Better for high revving. And now has a 2.8 crank for 289 ci.
My little 327 screams to the moon like that, 450hp , about 11,000rpms and the valves start to float , going into a Lakewood blow proof Bellhousing , 11 inch clutch and M-21 Muncie 4 speed trans , and then a 12 bolt posi rear end
Jesus does anyone know the specs on that block?!
The unholy scream of a small-inch small block gives me goosebumps! There's nothing like it.
Holy cow! now that`s a screaming launch! Love the sound of that small block power.
One thing is for certain.....when a motor takes a dump at that RPM, it is a spectacular show !!!
That makes my brain itch and my skin ripple with goosebumps in a moment of pure ecstacy!
I love it when someone makes a comment, only to get shut down by common sense tech... +1 Dusternash !
How many passes on a set of valve springs? Back when i was a track photog at CMD, during the points meet there was a 66 Nova running in SS, sponsored by Golden Racing Engines, he left the line somewhere around 12,750 and shifted at 11,500. Two passes and the springs were done. The sound when he left the line would make your hair stand up on your arms. This was back in 87 or 88.
YUP I was there too!! OMG yess I remember and one day he just pulled out all the stops and turned the rev limiter to 14,380 rpm and let er fly! MAke murica great again, long live the sbf Yay!!!!
*laughs in motor cycle rpm*
Eddyville drag strip down in iowa
I kept picturing a herd of Nascar ducking into the 3rd left during that burnout.... Incredible RPM you got coming outta that thing. I'm researching what it would take to get 9k out of a 6.0L w12. Without de-stroking it. Turns out a stock crate is $5k who knew...
Gotta love those lumpy cams too!
love that screaming lil small block chevrolet muscle baby
its not bracket racing! The nova is 10.5 lbs per cuin and the camaro is 4.5 lbs per cuin. Thats why the nova leaves first. Nova has a 5.90 index and the camaro has a 4.80 index, there for giving the nova a 1.2 sec head start.
The Nova revs to 12000rpm, but this camera shoots at like 12fps
Andrew Hogan it was kinda almost a decade ago😂
Damn I love the sound of a small block Chevy!!
Can see why ford guys, use mostly Chevy engines, in there hod rod fords?
Me too:www.4btswaps.com/attachments/2cyclesbc-jpg.6839/
As a kid, we all knew DZ 302s were the toughest engines around. This car is a celebration of dancin knitting needle power and rpm. I just L-O-V-E it!
Wow!! great launch, but seems that the Camaro was catching up at the end
I didn't see that coming 😲 great job.
*Keep pressing **1:02*
Man you've gotta post some more videos of that car! Gives me goose bumps! Awesome Nova!!
LBS PER CID means ZERO. its HP to WEIGHT FUCK TARD
Actually its horsepower to weight, torque to weight and whole lot of other things and if it meant nothing why would it be used as a handicap rule in this race series? Please be a scrub elsewhere thanks.
lbs per cubic inch is the "class" you're assigned. Weight of the car and the cid you claim gives you the starting advantage or disadvantage. If you've ever raced before, you would know that. F.T.
Sounds like a c super modified,Love that shit!
@APT1848 jesel shaft mt rockers, comp springs with 400lbs seat pressure and of course titanium valves etc
289 sbc but what else does he have to turn 12k rpm?!?!? I'd be happy with 9-10k to shut these damn ricers up LOL
I believe someone in the comments said it was de-stroked a bit, but i'd assume fully built internals with some awesome bearings, a hell of a camshaft, massive intake/exhaust ports and alot of fuel lol
Because high-revving engines are crazy, especially pushrod engines.
dont forget the valve springs those things have to be stout 800+ lbs spring pressure to keep the valves from floating
low inertia and light weight moving parts (especially valvetrain) are main key to achieve high revving
Actually 1 anything over about 450 lbs it's a waste its been proven on the spintron, 2 just like nascar engines that turn 9-10k all day long and run a engine till it blows. Its a De-stroked 305 with a tiny bore like what the 260ci v8s had with the lighter weight comes the ability to spin a whole lot faster, as to the valve train I'd suspect that they are running shaft mounted rockers with titanium everything and probably around 400-450lb springs with some big ass heads and valves probably have at least a 1000cfm carb jmo
12000 rpm my ass
Nothing like a Small Block S-C-R-E-A-M-I-N-G in the upper RPM range! Nice! Sounds KILLER!!
Now THAT sportsfans is a holeshot.
Who won?
He never hit 12,000 rpm or it would have exploded. No push rod v8 can hit 12 grand and live it is physics and design. Show me one v8 pushrod motor hit real 12,000 rpm and not blow up instantly, show me. Quit exaggerati g rpm on push rod motors 10 grand for more than 2 seconds grenades never make 12 grand
Torque is cheaper than RPM`s, but quick is quick!
Who built that motor?
Keeping one together at that RPM is quite an accomplishment!
I love hearing those revs!!!
Looks like to me a little Chevrolegion in motion ... It will make a believer out of you!
Thanks for posting this! It was just the inspiration I was looking for
And I tougth 9100rpm with my 525ci bbc was impressive…this is just fucking badass
The engine won't last that long at that rpm
It only has to scream for 5 seconds!!!!!
Sounds good, Rpm isn't everything. A top fuel dragster from the moment it crosses the beams all the way to the finish line the engine only turns 300 RPM to the tires. Think on that.
320 mph in 3.3 seconds using only 300 RPMS. DO THE MATH.
What accelerates the car? Torque at the rear tire! If you can spin 12,000 RPM you can run a lot lower gear (larger torque multiplier). If you get your HP from RPM rather than engine torque just gear down to compensate for that rear tire torque! Easy peasy! Just basic physics which a lot of hacks don’t understand because some idiot told them different years back! lm@o!
Stroke has nothing to do with rpm. We have 4.165 stroke 5.4 engines revving to 11,200 rpm. I wish people would stop spreading this horrible information.
He must use a hydraulic press to put his springs on every other race.
Torque is the twisting force that can break things. HP is the rate at which torque can be delivered.
That’s a beautiful sound!
Horsepower is just another way of describing torque at high rpms... it's the same torque that pulls down low, but it's laying it down at high rpms that's all.
This car needs a nickname like banshee or something. It can't just be 12000 rpm nova... Who else thinks so?
How does a powertrain handle that launch?? That's one bad ass nova!!
And I thought I was do I g good to get my 350 to 6800. Guess I got a lot to learn.
screw the torque and horsepower curves, the _inertia_ of that rotating assembly carried the car over 60 feet in just over a second. no bog, no hesitation whatsoever. lets see you do that with your torque curve.
The Gen 7 LS block with its roller bearing cam support and huge lifter valleys can get there
Holy shit that thing is awesome. I've never heard a V8 rev that high before. Sum bitch is mean as hell.
It’s funny how similar this sounds to a crossplane yamaha r1 during the burnout.
That's awesome, I'd like to see similar engine screaming across the salt flats as well. That car hooks and it takes a hell of a driver to ride that hook out, congrats !
How the valve floating problem was solved? this engine is converted to DOHC?
Does anyone know the engine building specs of the 12k nova?
That's the House of Hook
The track is in Eddyville, IA. Been up there a quite of few times myself! They re-did everything... It's awesome track to race at!
6 inch bore, 2 inch stroke, unobtanium valves and conrods???
Holy fucken shit that launch was as violent as a jet fighter doing a negative g menuver
As much as I love me some big blocks I honestly think the small motors hitting high rpm sound just as vicious.
How in the actual fuck did you turn an engine to 12k?!? Mind: Blown!
At that RPM, the pushrods turn to spaghetti . I love spaghetti !!!!!!!
Sounds like my old 55 I ran with a 283. Used to eat valve springs and was a little inconsistent, but it was fun.
Would've revved it higher, but the floorboard got in the way
Revolution of crankshaft = revolution of tires I think ?
Get that Nova some milk!!!! HOLY SHIT.....