Once you hear the difference you can't unhear it. I play keyboard and sing gospel. I bought the SX900 for the portability. I can easily bring to convalescent homes and other small venues. I will be getting the Genos 2 and a small portable pa for my livingroom and live gigs. Thank you for your demo!
Thank you so much for making this video, you can get super articulation light (1) on the sx900 but would be impossible to get the super articulation 2 on the the sx900 because no after touch and it may have velocity but not true initial touch , and I’m not really a synth guy but love all the super articulation voices , the brass (sax) holy cow so expressive ! Will shop for a deal on a genos one ! Thanks again ❤
I had a Tyros 5 & PSR-S950 simultaneously & they sounded identical except for the audio drums & SA2. My problem was that the S950 had several voices that the T5 didn't. I wish Yamaha would introduce velocity switching via expression at some point.
Scusami ma che paragone fai?la sx 900 costa meno della metà di genos...se vuoi fare un buon confronto fallo con ketron event ..oppure con korg pax 5....non riesco proprio a capire certe cose..
It’s timely here in Australia because we can’t get Genos 2. I think we’re the poor relations here. The waiting list keeps getting longer and longer. I want to buy a G2, keep the sx-900 for portability, but I just can’t get one.
I heard that there might be a new keyboard to replace the sx 900 seeing it’s 5 years old. The Genos 2 is quite an advance over genos 1. Great demo and timely as I have been weighing up getting the Genos 1 versus SX 900, I’ve currently got the psr 473 which has enough to give me a taste but has limitations and I can’t export sound to the quality I want.
@@rexcowan9209 yeah I'm thinking of purchasing one and the sales guy at music centre has told me that they'll be adding some new features n increasing the price. But if I don't want the new features then it'll be a waste of the extra bucks. But the catch is they don't know what the new features are gonna be. So if anyone can give an input on that?
I just looked at Sweetwater -- I don't see a price reduction for Genos 1 or Genos 2. Where are you getting your information from? I think everyone knows about S-art2; and that Genos has more and better sounds. Where is the pricing change you spoke of? I just checked at Sweetwater and found: Sx900 == $2299 ; Genos is $4999 -- Geno2 is $5699 -- this is the same price difference that has always been there.
Thank you for this. I currently have an SX 900 that I’ve been evaluating and I have a window of opportunity to return it for no and get my money back. And I’m definitely considering upgrading to a Genos: For all the reasons you mentioned, the sound differences are phenomenal. The SX 900 sounds fairly cheesy to me. The longer keyboard, the after touch and the controls. The first time I had to stop and go to the mixer on the SX 900 and adjust volumes before I could continue playing was a bummer. While I like the portability aspect of the SX 900 - size weight and speakers, I still think I would bring a Genos with me to a gig .
@@mysticjoe295 Everyone's needs are different. I bought my SX 900 used (For a fairly good price reduction from new), and I'm blown away with it. Now I'm not a 'Great' singer -- but have you looked at all the vocal processing available on the SX 900 {Genos has the same, I think -- same, but not better!)? The things you can do, vocally, go on for pages and pages and pages of fairly small type! (I had previously been ga-ga over the Korg Pa-4, but no longer.) My budget does NOT include a Genos -- besides which -- I'm still learning. For now, I'm completely satisfied -- but if you are at the level where you think the SX 900 sounds "Cheesy" -- and you can afford it -- it may be time for you to move on. I LIKE the attached speakers and the portability SX 900 offers, and everything else about it. You do you.
@@achamilton when I looked it up on the MIDI implementation chart it says it should recognize the aftertouch messages (keys or channels) or I may not have read it correctly. Thanks
@@agst2006This is something very rarely brought up, but I believe it will respond to aftertouch data in song mode (data in MIDI files for example in a song) but not in realtime from MIDI in from other instruments.
Spot on Justin @ HAMILTONS this Video is very Good, I Purchased my Genos some 5 months ago from yourselves and you are Quite right with your Video this highlights the capabilities of the instrument, I am so pleased that I Purchased my Genos From yourselves especially now after watching this , The presentation is of exceptional quality and Clarity, However a Great Big thanks for all the help yourself and Keith have provided, CHEERS, 🪗🪗🪗 Mick.
I did this i got a Genos for half the new price i was leaning toward Korg PA1000 but then came Genos 2 and everybody wanted to upgrade so i purchased one.
Let's be honest. The sound of the Genos is smoother and its keys are much better; the aftertouch is an impressive feature. Another thing is the buttons and sliders that provide great control. But the Sx900 is wonderful but it is not as good as the Genos.
I completely agree with you, I have had an SX900 for the last 3,5 years, before that the s975, s970 and before that the Tyros-4, which is already 6 years ago. I currently have a 2nd hand Genos-1 that has already been filled with packs by the previous owner, including the Monumental Choirpack from KaPro of 500 MB. ua-cam.com/video/XpvKGB6vGY0/v-deo.html With the SX900 I had to make do with 1GB expansion and the Genos now has 3GB expansion (after updates), which is a blessing... and indeed I immediately noticed the difference in sound, after all I use for the SX900 as the Genos, the same 2.1 Speaker set (2x 200 watt) that I have had here for years. (translate bij Google, i am a 74 year old Dutch man)
You have convinced me that the Genos is much better but its still £2000 second hand don't get me wrong that is a great price to get it for but it's still bloody expensive for a second hand instrument that will only drop in value.
despite all the bling bling features of Genos , that particular PSR-SX900 unit in your video has better sound quality and wider headroom sound than that Genos unit , in SX900 sound is littlebit wider dynamically and warmer , cleaner more smooth and articulate , deeper , while Genos has more frequency distortion and physical compression squeezing range into unstable anoying unbalanced midrange. Strange , because in some other Genos comparisons versus SX900 it was Genos sounding better , but in this your comparison SX900 sounds better than that Genos . There could be few different reasons why is like that , maybe that Genos has cheaper components , but It could be also because they dont have same master settings , but if they are both with same settings then definitely that particular SX900 wins in sound quality and anyway based on your comparison i would take that particular SX900 unit in your video over that Genos anytime and its not because of price . I am talking about those exact units in your video , my comment doesnt apply as same to other SX900 or Genos units because results will vary with each unit because none of them will sound same , they all are having different electroacoustic characteristics , and i think people should use their ears before buying and selecting unit , more money and bigger price doesnt mean people are buying better sound quality , and quantity is not quality because sometime less is more , and more is less .
Nice Video, i have PSR SX 900 and for his Class, Price , and Engine, is better then all Arangers in his Class. Dude you Comparing Gorila with Chimpanse :). You schould compare with Kronos, Roland M80, Korg PA5X .... This is not right Compare !!!
Like you said...If you were NOT listening to them side-by-side, the SX900 sounds great. Both have more than enough voices and styles. I guess if specific features like 76 keys, after touch, more memory, etc. are important to you (and you can afford it), get the Genos. If those things aren't vital to you get the SX900.
Adding an expression pedal does wonders for the sx900 sound dynamics
the sx900 is still an amazing instrument in its own right.
Both great keyboards
Once you hear the difference you can't unhear it. I play keyboard and sing gospel.
I bought the SX900 for the portability. I can easily bring to convalescent homes and other small venues. I will be getting the Genos 2 and a small portable pa for my livingroom and live gigs.
Thank you for your demo!
great Justin super Art makes a big diffrence and also After touch
hello from France , very good music PSR-SX900 ! 👍 🎶🎵
Thank you so much for making this video, you can get super articulation light (1) on the sx900 but would be impossible to get the super articulation 2 on the the sx900 because no after touch and it may have velocity but not true initial touch , and I’m not really a synth guy but love all the super articulation voices , the brass (sax) holy cow so expressive ! Will shop for a deal on a genos one ! Thanks again ❤
thankyou, as well as zero s.art2 on sx900 there are also 138 less s.art1!
@@achamiltonexactly for me no comparison-chalk and cheese 😊
Are you comparing the sx 900 with Genos 1 or Genos 2?
Hell of a difference in voices plus after touch tweaks in Genos. Its a clear win
Wow i bought the PSR SX600 for Xmas....may look at exchange....fab!
thankyou! Hi, we currently have "b" stock genos for £1999 or excellent condition used ones for £2299 ( thats excluding genos speakers )
I had a Tyros 5 & PSR-S950 simultaneously & they sounded identical except for the audio drums & SA2. My problem was that the S950 had several voices that the T5 didn't. I wish Yamaha would introduce velocity switching via expression at some point.
Scusami ma che paragone fai?la sx 900 costa meno della metà di genos...se vuoi fare un buon confronto fallo con ketron event ..oppure con korg pax 5....non riesco proprio a capire certe cose..
Juste
It’s timely here in Australia because we can’t get Genos 2. I think we’re the poor relations here. The waiting list keeps getting longer and longer. I want to buy a G2, keep the sx-900 for portability, but I just can’t get one.
I heard that there might be a new keyboard to replace the sx 900 seeing it’s 5 years old. The Genos 2 is quite an advance over genos 1. Great demo and timely as I have been weighing up getting the Genos 1 versus SX 900, I’ve currently got the psr 473 which has enough to give me a taste but has limitations and I can’t export sound to the quality I want.
thankyou! Hi, we currently have "b" stock genos for £1999 or excellent condition used ones for £2299 ( thats excluding genos speakers )
thankyou, we don't know when there might be an sx900 replacement but even if there were there will always be benefits to the flagship model.
Hey I've also heard that in October they're gonna discontinue sx900 and get an upgraded version like how they had it for s970 and s975
@@Brandon_Vaz I've noticed that retailers have little to no stocks of the sx900, and one had a big discount on it. Thanks for your information.
@@rexcowan9209 yeah I'm thinking of purchasing one and the sales guy at music centre has told me that they'll be adding some new features n increasing the price. But if I don't want the new features then it'll be a waste of the extra bucks. But the catch is they don't know what the new features are gonna be. So if anyone can give an input on that?
KENNY PILLAY
Are there Indian instruments on the Genos ?
There are some indian instruments on the genos. You can see a list of instruments in the reference manual.
I just looked at Sweetwater -- I don't see a price reduction for Genos 1 or Genos 2.
Where are you getting your information from?
I think everyone knows about S-art2; and that Genos has more and better sounds. Where is the pricing change you spoke of?
I just checked at Sweetwater and found: Sx900 == $2299 ; Genos is $4999 -- Geno2 is $5699 -- this is the same price difference that has always been there.
Hi, we currently have "b" stock genos for £1999 or excellent condition used ones for £2299 ( thats excluding genos speakers )
Thank you for this. I currently have an SX 900 that I’ve been evaluating and I have a window of opportunity to return it for no and get my money back.
And I’m definitely considering upgrading to a Genos:
For all the reasons you mentioned, the sound differences are phenomenal. The SX 900 sounds fairly cheesy to me.
The longer keyboard, the after touch and the controls.
The first time I had to stop and go to the mixer on the SX 900 and adjust volumes before I could continue playing was a bummer.
While I like the portability aspect of the SX 900 - size weight and speakers, I still think I would bring a Genos with me to a gig .
@@achamilton
Prices are a bit higher here in the states.
Used Genos run for about $3300 up to $3800 used SX 900 run from about $1400 to $1800
@@mysticjoe295 Everyone's needs are different. I bought my SX 900 used (For a fairly good price reduction from new), and I'm blown away with it.
Now I'm not a 'Great' singer -- but have you looked at all the vocal processing available on the SX 900 {Genos has the same, I think -- same, but not better!)? The things you can do, vocally, go on for pages and pages and pages of fairly small type! (I had previously been ga-ga over the Korg Pa-4, but no longer.) My budget does NOT include a Genos -- besides which -- I'm still learning. For now, I'm completely satisfied -- but if you are at the level where you think the SX 900 sounds "Cheesy" -- and you can afford it -- it may be time for you to move on. I LIKE the attached speakers and the portability SX 900 offers, and everything else about it. You do you.
@@mysticjoe295 I got my used SX900 at the high end of the range you mentioned. I'm happy.
Made in where
Do you guys ship to the usa?
sadly, no sorry!
Does SX900 receive aftertouch message from external MIDI controller?
we just had a look at this and unfortunately you cannot do this with the sx900.
@@achamilton when I looked it up on the MIDI implementation chart it says it should recognize the aftertouch messages (keys or channels) or I may not have read it correctly. Thanks
@@agst2006This is something very rarely brought up, but I believe it will respond to aftertouch data in song mode (data in MIDI files for example in a song) but not in realtime from MIDI in from other instruments.
@@achamilton Thanks
With the SX900 you can assign a pedal to an effect that simulates aftertouch
В геносе нет функции копирования тактов! Как писать аранжировку и песни?
I love to transcribe music
THANKS FOR THE 'CHALK-N-CHEESE' TRUTH! At last!
its what we are here for!
Spot on Justin @ HAMILTONS this Video is very Good, I Purchased my Genos some 5 months ago from yourselves and you are Quite right with your Video this highlights the capabilities of the
instrument, I am so pleased that I Purchased my Genos From yourselves especially now after watching this , The presentation is of exceptional quality and Clarity, However a Great Big thanks for all the help yourself and Keith have provided, CHEERS, 🪗🪗🪗 Mick.
Thanks Mick much appreciated!
I did this i got a Genos for half the new price i was leaning toward Korg PA1000 but then came Genos 2 and everybody wanted to upgrade so i purchased one.
Side note: Korg Pa1000 has little to no vocal processing.
@@tkarlmannReally? It has built in TC Helicon, what else do you need?
@@eklipsegirl I had TC helicon on the PA3X I was not all that impressed with it actually Genos has a better vocoder/harmony.
Buying new, sx900 is great value, Genos a bit pricey, both will keep you going through those long winter nights 😊
Let's be honest. The sound of the Genos is smoother and its keys are much better; the aftertouch is an impressive feature. Another thing is the buttons and sliders that provide great control. But the Sx900 is wonderful but it is not as good as the Genos.
I completely agree with you, I have had an SX900 for the last 3,5 years, before that the s975, s970 and before that the Tyros-4, which is already 6 years ago. I currently have a 2nd hand Genos-1 that has already been filled with packs by the previous owner, including the Monumental Choirpack from KaPro of 500 MB.
ua-cam.com/video/XpvKGB6vGY0/v-deo.html
With the SX900 I had to make do with 1GB expansion and the Genos now has 3GB expansion (after updates), which is a blessing... and indeed I immediately noticed the difference in sound, after all I use for the SX900 as the Genos, the same 2.1 Speaker set (2x 200 watt) that I have had here for years.
(translate bij Google, i am a 74 year old Dutch man)
Genos Gen 1 for about $3100 vs PSR SX900 for $2300. It’s a no brainer.
You have convinced me that the Genos is much better but its still £2000 second hand don't get me wrong that is a great price to get it for but it's still bloody expensive for a second hand instrument that will only drop in value.
It's £1499 keyboard only now! www.achamilton.co.uk/Genos/Genos_RF.htm
why? Speakers, my boy.
Speaker size.
The price is so different far. In Indonesian, Yamaha SX900 around USD 1,200 but Genos around USD 4,000 😂
despite all the bling bling features of Genos , that particular PSR-SX900 unit in your video has better sound quality and wider headroom sound than that Genos unit , in SX900 sound is littlebit wider dynamically and warmer , cleaner more smooth and articulate , deeper , while Genos has more frequency distortion and physical compression squeezing range into unstable anoying unbalanced midrange. Strange , because in some other Genos comparisons versus SX900 it was Genos sounding better , but in this your comparison SX900 sounds better than that Genos .
There could be few different reasons why is like that , maybe that Genos has cheaper components , but It could be also because they dont have same master settings ,
but if they are both with same settings then definitely that particular SX900 wins in sound quality and anyway based on your comparison i would take that particular SX900 unit in your video over that Genos anytime and its not because of price .
I am talking about those exact units in your video , my comment doesnt apply as same to other SX900 or Genos units because results will vary with each unit because none of them will sound same , they all are having different electroacoustic characteristics , and i think people should use their ears before buying and selecting unit , more money and bigger price doesnt mean people are buying better sound quality , and quantity is not quality because sometime less is more , and more is less .
Nice Video, i have PSR SX 900 and for his Class, Price , and Engine, is better then all Arangers in his Class. Dude you Comparing Gorila with Chimpanse :). You schould compare with Kronos, Roland M80, Korg PA5X .... This is not right Compare !!!
Like you said...If you were NOT listening to them side-by-side, the SX900 sounds great. Both have more than enough voices and styles. I guess if specific features like 76 keys, after touch, more memory, etc. are important to you (and you can afford it), get the Genos. If those things aren't vital to you get the SX900.
That's right but bear in mind its the quality of the voices/styles of the genos over the SX900 which is the attraction rather than the quantity.