Convicting a Murderer Ep 1 - An Unraveling Narrative
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2023
- Police reports from Avery’s younger years unveil a significantly more alarming criminal history than previously disclosed, and the intentions of the Making a Murderer filmmakers begin to come to light.
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I knew about this. I'm angry about the cat HOWEVER. Put him to death. I think that is horrible. I can't forgive him for that, but that doesn't make him the murderer of Theresa.
Leave animals the fk alone!'!
regardless if he was guilty or not, those Manitowoc county officers look sketchy af
Almost everyone in Manitowoc county is sketchy AF
I agree the cops definitely crooked but if the man didn't commit the murder why did Netflix go to so much trouble to leave out so much. You wouldn't have to do that for a innocent man.
they literally all look like villains
Unbelievable
So we should let a murderer go because the cops look sketchy? Good logic.
There wasn't anyone in this case that was clean....not the cops, not the attorneys, not the Avery's, and not Netflix.
This is the absolute truth.
netflix leaving off some minor youth crimes HARDLY seems relevant.
the victim Avery murdered was Clean.
@@mytube7473they weren’t minor crimes this Avery is a monster.
The fact that the Sheriff's department didn't allow the Manitowoc County coroner (Debra Kakatsch) to visit the crime scene, was a big red flag for me.
There are a lot of red flags. Too many unanswered questions.
She wasn't allowed on the site because she was not the coroner of record. The administration of the case was transferred to Calumet County. The Calumet County coroner DID issue the standard report. Kakatsch makes it sound like she was some truth teller who would blow the lid of the case. In fact, she had no jurisdiction over the case and was rightfully barred from the crime scene. Another silly red herring.
@@milart12 Why would she break down crying about it? I think there's more to it than you want to believe.
I've thought about it. Shes a nut job who wants to insinuate herself into the case. She has NO knowledge that is relevant to the case. And what do you mean that there is more than I want to believe? Only the silliest, most gullible person would believe anything but the obvious: Steven Avery killed that poor girl and Brendan assisted in the moving and burning of the body. @@Jay-tk7ib
@@milart12so you claim
I’ve been following this case from the beginning. One major question I have is the interrogation of Brandon 1. Why was he interrogated in an office at his school. 2. He was 16 years old and at no time was there ever a legal guardian during the questioning. His interrogation should not have been allowed
He was too dumb to lie
I believe his mother gave the ok for him to be interrogated. Her intelligence isn't exactly the best though because she couldn't even explain to Brendan what the word inconsistent means.
My wife (a lawyer) explained that while the first interview could be brought into question, Barb was spoken to prior to the second interview (which MAM shows them spoonfeeding answers a la typical Reid method nonsense) and that second interview is what most of the future incriminating statements revolve around before his retraction. It's shakey but it's just as hard to take it apart.
@@BB-pg5klbut does even a parent have the right to “remove protective rights “ from their child? Who has that right over ANY child ? No parent , no legal associate , no one .
@@kate4biglittlevoices well until they are 18 in most states yes the parent can make all the choices for a child. Now I'm not saying I agree with it especially in something like this, but that's how it is.
Brendan Dassey didnt have a clue what was going on they just got him to say what he thought they wanted to hear so he could go home and watch Wrestlemania
Sickening what they did to that kid!!
He knows more than he's letting on, look into his Google search history, he's sick in the head.
You forgot to mention. Only Steven’s dna was on the key lol . He clean it then touched it again to frame himself
First the cops are the keystone cops then they are the mission impossible master framing org from SPECTOR. LMAO You can not have it both ways Pointdexter. So the cops waited for someone to visit Avery, then killed her, planted the keys in his mobile home, took his rifle and shot Hallbeck or used her brain matter to coat the bullet, planted her phone in his burn barrel and her bones in his burn pit, and the car on the Avery lot. With no one seeing.
@@jaybabcock4557 everything but the killing her part
@@johnlabry325 So the cops did not kill her, well who did? Bobby Dassey? LMAO First the cops are the keystone cops then they are the mission impossible master framing org from SPECTOR. LMAO You can not have it both ways Pointdexter's. So the cops waited for someone to visit Avery, then killed her, planted the keys in his mobile home, took his rifle and shot Hallbeck or used her brain matter to coat the bullet, planted her phone in his burn barrel and her bones in his burn pit, and the car on the Avery lot. With no one seeing.
Just shows how attorney’s can create there own story with the evidence even if it’s not really how it happened
What do you think a gov is for?
"their"
Cops do that
That’s literally what their job is. Defence attorneys try and use the evidence or deny it to prove their client is innocent or acted in self defence/ accidentally and prosecutors use the evidence to do the opposite
So let me get this right , Brendan Dassey was convicted of helping murder her in the trailer, but in another seperate case, Avery was convicted of killing her in the garage ???
Yep
Wait what??! Im Not BSing, I didnt know about the garahe thing. I personally think that hes guilty, but i never heard or at least dont remember the garage detail, so you have a very good point
@@noway1880 when was the last time someone successfully blew someones brains out inside a building and successfully cleaned every drop every spec of blood but left the fuckin bullet just layin there lol I mean they didnt know anything happened in the garage until brendan dassey said something , no DNA of theresa was ever found on that property none zero except bones or should i say fragments of bones I mean who burns a body in a burn to a literal crisp of bone flakes then puts them in the backyard bonfire afterwards lol like avery has zero capabilities to critically think any of this stuff even professional crime scene cleaners would have a very hard time getting rid of all of the evidence same with crime techs and cops thats why committing murder is such a bitch to get away with !
What!?? No way!! That's insane! It's been so long since I watched MaM , I can't remember everything.
@@KierstenA-ue8mo Basically the trials had to match the evidence that had been planted
His criminal history doesn’t affect my view of the extremely odd evidences and the questionable investigators.
Yup, there's around 10,000 criminals for every one murder Grapist.
The boy did not have a criminal history.
100%. This is the dumbest shit the daily wire has done.
One of the main things that made me doubt the cops' claims was the lack of blood in a room where everything was supposed to have taken place.
Same here. Think he killed her somewhere else
Exactly. I’ve still not seen 1 piece of non cop planted evidence proving Avery’s guilt
@@nicoletheresa6654 ooorrrr they didn't do it and another creep did.
Lack of blood, hair, sweat, urine, skin cells… not a trace of her in a tiny filthy living space.
@@bonnemoms5413 nope I read the courts papers. He, they did it. The nephew is mildly retarded and should of been dealt with differently.
In the end, this whole story is so sad for the victim's family because they have be reliving this for many years now because this never stops.
the family should want to know the truth..they seemed subservient to what ever the cops and lawyers told them right from the beginning
the so called victims family are jews, I suspect she is hiding out in Israel. Her DNA was never found in a fire pit, or anywhere else.
If I was murdered, I wouldn't want people to forget me and throw my murder on just anyone. I would want it REALLY taken care of and have everything examined.
I also feel the same about if a family member was murdered. I wouldn't want it brushed under the rug.
Just finished episode 7 on the DW. It’s it’s really amazing and sobering that a “Documentary” supposedly presenting “evidence” could be so powerfully spun so as to make its viewers feel like you are the detectives. You feel like you’re going through evidence, not realizing that evidence has been carefully tailored and altered to manipulate you to come to a conclusion-and when you reach they conclusion they’ve designed for you to reach, you feel like you’re better than the police and smarter than the jury. You don’t even realize you’ve been told what to believe.
Sounds a lot like the Manitowoc interrogators.
It's the same tactics the news media uses on it's viewers. You most likely will believe what they say because they know how to play to our fears and ignorance. The key to remaining neutral is to question everything they present as facts. You will be surprised.
Agreed! Back when it first came out it bothered me. We know nothing about these two women who filmed and directed it nor have they presented the entire case in an unbiased manner. I think ppl thrive off of hating police, in some circumstances I understand I’ve not always been treated well by an officer but to blame all ain’t right and the victim in this case is Theresa H and she was lost in that docuseries. Now am I thrilled with the fbi currently, hell no but I don’t view all law enforcement as corrupt. Besides so many are offended and hurt that Candace is taking an in-depth look, why unless there’s fear of facts coming out that weren’t presented accurately or honestly in the Netflix series
It's funny how smart steven and brenden are to completely clean up the crime scene on an expert level clean like fbi level clean! But yet they couldn't hide the car and just threw a few branches on it lol
something is really f#ed up and i dont know if its MaM... Avery said in the police interrogation "i'd crush the car"... yes, there was a crusher, there was also an incinerator.. why didnt he do it, if he was guilty? still, me personally i changed my mind from not guilty to guilty, but im open to anything at this point, really.
@luxi378 what you think about zillner law? She still representing him and she Even said if he's guilty she will find out and expose the truth guilty or not and till this day she is still screaming his innocence and she is fighting hard tooth and nail to get him retried in court I hope he gets it so it can end the thin line of love and hate people are divided over this case which I don't blame them it's controversial! But still I don't think kathleen would still be pushing this hard and spending millions on steven if he was guilty!
@@NTiVE-tq7tj like i already asked here in the comments... was Avery really her last stop, or was it the Zipperers? i dont know but Zellner looked into that, cell tower locations and such, and it looks like the Zipperers were her last stop, and not Avery. which of course would be exculpatory for Avery. he still could have done it, somehow, but not the way that the prosecution said he did. there should be at least a new hearing regarding this. imo.
Exactly, this episode was suppose to prove how much we were lied to. They play footage of his cousin saying Steven was naked in his yard and ran her off the road, that was info already given to us in the original docuseries. We already knew this and yet none of that makes him a rapist murderer, it simply makes him a guy who's naked in his front yard who's license should probably be revoked. Way to many coincidences in this case for him to be guilty. As you said zero DNA in that trailer and zero of Stevens DNA on the key that some how ended up in his trailer after multiple searches had already occurred and he was locked in jail he then some how plants the key in his own trailer he no longer has access to. Then some of the main people mucking up this investigation accidently leave their names off the check in and check out list for accessing the property. YEA OK....... The medical examiner who was interviewed in the original docuseries second season, the older white lady somewhat heavy set she is one of the main people who gave statement who clearly painted the picture of the extent the police were going to cover up something.
The crime scene wasn't "completely cleaned up".... There was blood evidence everywhere. Watch the video walkthroughs of the scene.
The 'interrogation' of Brendan should not have happened the way that it did.
They knew it was their way of twisting the case and winning by manipulating a child.
No it should't have. That was coercion if there ever was coercion.
@@wanglee21a child with severe mental deficits
@@doeeyes2that’s not severe.
Who killed Teresa? Then burnt her body, then planted her belongings in Avery's burn barrel? Then her bones in the burn pit? Who got a hold of Avery's 22, shot it, planted Teresa's DNA then put the rifle back? Oh, and all of this happening to a woman who happened to have gone to Avery's to take pictures.
Something that always bothered me about this was the focus was always on Avery and not on Teresa. It seems like the death of a real person was lost on everyone.
I do get that but also focusing on her doesn’t necessarily help solve this case.
Also she ain’t dead.
@@greenrighthandNot only did Calumet County verify the cremains in Avery's pit to be that of Teresa within an error range of 1 in a billion, but the FBI later tested the bones themselves and confirmed it to be her beyond any doubt. Please stop spreading misinformation.
@@greenrighthand sadly she is ..most of the supporters know that ..
@@greenrighthand I THINK SHE IS IN ISRAEL AND WAS PART OF THIS PLOT TO FRAME STEVEN.
Simple fact is the dude had $36 million coming to him, idc how sadistic a person is, they’re not going to just randomly r-word and kill a woman for no reason
No he was FILING a lawsuit for 36mil, that has nothing to do with what he would have got, probably around 4mil after paying his lawyer. Average lawsuit for that is around $500k per year... and he ALREADY settled with them for $400,000 and then used that to defend this actual murder.
He thought since he did that time he deserved to be able to kill someone?
Actually watch this new series... eh-hem-coughbitchutecough!!!
If you thought Making A Murderer was about the innocence of Steven Avery, you missed it. Making A Murderer was about not being able to get a fair trial because the cops are biased, the lab is biased, the state appointed lawyers are biased, and the prosecutor is biased. I have no idea if SA is innocent, in fact I think he’s probably guilty. But I know for a fact that the State of Wisconsin is guilty. Those parties are supposed to work independently in their roles. The documentary exposed blatant problems in the system. That’s why it’s called Making A Murderer. If they think you’re guilty, you are, because they’re all going to work together to make sure they make you one.
the prosecutor had a confession, a motive, a witness statement, a criminal history, and a mountain of evidence against him, he got a very fair trail and a very fair conviction
@@lil_bro342 I'm guessing you've had your 2 slushie vaxes and all the boostahs.
@@lil_bro342 How many times did they search before "finding evidence," such as the car keys? Ask yourself why Stephen didn't get rid of the keys after the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th search.
@@Jay-tk7ib if you really think car keys was the only evidence than you need to finish this documentary also it's extremely common for police to do multiple searches and find new evidence on the last search so this is not unusual
@@Jay-tk7ib Just saw clips from the show in Candace's latest podcast... yeah Steven definitely killed her. Turns out they had more evidence than was mentioned in the original doc. Several witnesses saw Steven burn items in a burn barrel the night she disappeared, the police found remains of her electronics burnt in the bottom of the barrel.
I haven't watched her whole series, but that is vital information that was withheld in the Netflix series, he is very much guilty.
You can't tell me that he lives where cars are scraped and the vehicle wasn't disassembled or cut up just out put out in the yard.
Yeah I don't even really know the story at all but i was thinking the same. I've seen cars put in a shipping container and buried 10ft down just cause of a bad divorce. If I was hiding evidence I wouldn't leave it out in the open
Exactly
Or the blood... they supposedly cleaned all that blood in the house and garage up so good they found zero evidence there, yet it all looked like it was never cleaned one time in 30 years.....
Well, he's not exactly the sharpest tool in the shed.
as Candace put it "he ran out of time" gimme a fuckin break Candace , if he wanted to crush that whip he would have
Hopefully you release the rest of the episodes on here. I’m not paying $15 to watch all 10 though 😂
eh-hem... coughcoughbit-cough-chutecough.
it cost money to make that shit. They gotta recoup somehow
It’s sooooo good. Definitely worth $15. Not to mention the Daily Wire app has other movies that are amazing. Particularly, The Greatest Lie Ever Sold. The news stories are great. Ben Shapiro, Matt Walsh, Candace Owens, Micheal Knowles, Brett Cooper… their shows are all great. The app’s notifications aren’t excessive or obnoxious. Breaking news usually hits my app before any other news source. I highly recommend!
@@acegohard4731youtube revenue pays enough...Netflix would of bought it if it was good. This documentary sucks. It's all about the girl that made this not much about the case
I understand some people like yourself are very poor, and $15 is a lot of money for you. Let's hope together they show more episodes over time and you can feed from the free section.
The county wouldn’t allow the coroner do her job. I find that very suspicious.
Regardless of what may have been left out of the series or whatever there are always going to be two major things for me that stand out and make zero sense in this case 1 being that the keys were not found with so much searching but magically appear when the local officers search and I plain sight too with the outside officer basically saying all but outright accusing the local officers of being liars on the stand. And 2 being the fact that they used the boy's "confession" as a major pivotal part of these convictions but there is NO WAY that Halbach could be murdered in this way in that house without blood being found somewhere the only way this would be possible is if they burned both buildings completely down.
And didn’t Brendan retract his confession and say he made it up based off a book he read? It’s been awhile since I’ve watched the series so correct me if I’m wrong
What about the women who did the testing? What about the admitted cross contamination during evidence collection?
Until now where I'm having doubts I believed Avery and Brendan innocent. Thing is it can be true that police planted evidence like the keys and Brendan's confession is false, as well as Avery being guilty of the murder. The corruption and planting of evidence does not mean Avery is innocent of killing Halbach, unfortunately. And I'm beginning to think that's the likely situation here.
@@jonnybaze7449 Wasn't it her DNA and she followed the procedure asking for an exception which was granted. It didn't falsify the result.
@@TeeKoon we have no idea. All we know is we have someone not qualified to bag groceries testing dna evidence. No, there’s no exemption. If you don’t have enough to retest you still must disregard contaminated samples. Also I’m referring to collection which involved another man who admitted to not changing gloves after collecting from her vehicle and his vehicle.
There was 0 dna found from Theresa in the trailer when, according to the prosecutors, she was tortured and raped there. There was no dna found from Theresa on her carkey, which was found suspiciously in Stevens trailer. These 2 things alone don't make any sense. I think he's innocent.
Exactly. No blood on the bed. No marks on the headboard she was supposed to be chained to.
Blood in the car , why if they “killed” her in the trailer or garage??
@@lovinghomescentshow u know he killed her there
Would you want your daughter or granddaughter to be with him?
@@ElsasPet i wouldn't want my daughter or granddaughter with any man i didn't know!
"Even if the key was planted" is a quote from the prosecutor to the jury
He wasn't saying the key was planted. When your opponent brings something forward as evidence or theory, a prosecutor has to take that apart for the jury. It was along the lines "the defense says the key was planted..ok let's say the key was planted but that doesn't negate XYZ.
There’s nothing more I wanted today then to see Candace Owens talk about injustice. Just makes my day.
It didn't start right. So if someone who had criminal history should be treated as the main suspect in a murder case? She was really unprepared, actually most people know he is no saint.
This can try and explain away a lot of things but it won't be able to explain away the tactics of the cops and the lawyer towards Brendan Dassey. Literally broke the rules
What rules did it break? His mother gave them permission to question him.
@@Truecrimelover120the cops told him exactly what to say
@@user-wv5rj8lh4r you’ve obviously only watched the show which was edited. The whole transcript shows a perfectly legal interrogation. The courts have held it up for years.
@@Truecrimelover120- I guess you missed the part where his lawyer went on local TV and proclaimed his client's guilt before there was even a trial????
@@SamM-gl9zc well he had confessed so 🤷🏼♀️
I’d like to see Candace debate Kathleen Zellner (Avery’s current attorney) on this case. Kathleen would mop the floor with her.
Literally anyone can beat Candace Owens in a debate.
@@therealjetlag And yet no liberal ever has.
Yessss! Zellna will absolute wipe the floor with candance owens... shes such a mean person.. regardless of her opinions? Shes just mean.. if she made sence of all her points and opinions? I would actually give her some thought, but she is just a mean person who means no well being for no1 who trys to do right... such a mean person
I watch Candace, I’ve yet to see someone mop the floor with her but a debate isn’t a bad idea. Regardless if you think she’s mean or just very honest, for someone to look at this case with another perspective isn’t a bad thing. No one will ever know avery regardless how he appears to the public nor will we have all the answers to what happened to the victim in this case. There’s nothing wrong with taking another look or disputing a docuseries points and opinions in a very complex case where the victim’s family faced not only the brutal murder of their loved one but then widespread support for the accused killer
I hope the filmmakers of making a murderer are proud of themselves for everything they have put the Halbach family through!
2 Cops that framed him get to go in his house and they find a key... smells to me.
I don’t have an opinion on this either way, but the theory Avery ran out of time to destroy the car is absurd. They found the car 5 days after the murder on a salvage lot that had a crusher….. it doesn’t take 5 days to destroy a crucial piece of evidence
Exactly!!! The whole thing is ridiculous. The police/Bobby/TH's brother placed the car in the furthest corner of the yard to look hidden but not hidden enough, it couldn't be found by the search party. 🤔🤔
He was lazy or sloppy. It wasn't that he didn't have enough time. The absurd narrative is that the cops would have planted a murdered woman's car in order to get some white trash idiot who happened to get out of prison and let an actual murderer go free.
Why would her brother want want to kill her
1. Crushing a car doesn't "get rid of evidence".
2. Crushing a car is a notable event that anyone around would remember. Especially if it is an undamaged vehicle. Kinda hard to do in secret.
3. Older crushers are a two man operation.
4. Crushing a car with mercury switches, freon in the A/C, and gas in the tank is going to be noticed.
@@my1vice they were living in a isolated and vast piece of property and it was a family business.
don't you think it's odd that every piece of evidence were found by the cope that his ass was on the line for first false imprisonment, and he found them on the parts that ben search before and nothing was there but every time that a police that not allowed to be there got there, suddenly he came across bombshell evidence each time . plus the blood container being tampered with. and you know they hade to give 36 million dollars to him or frame him. they plaid fraction of money to make this absurd counter documentary that argue that since hi is not a perfect angel so we should ignore so many red flag and believe he is guilty.
it's basicly an amber heard tactic that leaked some unflattering information about joney so we should ignore the audio literally say she beaten me him.
I think Candice trying to convince herself that he is not a good person to society so its ok for me to make money depict him as murderer and rapist
Brendan Dassey was unable to provide any details about the crime or the victim, during his 3 illegal interrogations. His court-appointed lawyer told the press that the boy was guilty before he ever talked to the boy. Then the boy told the judge, in court, that he wanted a different lawyer. The judge refused.
Steven Avery had just won a lawsuit against the same sheriff department who arrested him. Steven Avery was about to be paid 40 million dollars by the State of Wisconsin, and then the sheriffs and the prosecutor and the judge from his previous false conviction would have been in trouble. But they arrested him, and it all went away.
A few facts that no one disputes:
#1, the victim's body was burned somewhere else in the woods, and then some of her bones were moved to Steven Avery's yard.
#2, the sheriffs under investigation for corruption in Steven Avery's previous case were not supposed to be involved in searching Steven's house. Other sheriffs searched his house 5 times and found nothing. Then the sheriffs under investigation searched his house and found the victim's car key lying in the floor.
#3, three days before the victim's car was found at Steven Avery's junkyard - not crushed with his car crusher - one of the same sheriffs under investigation is recorded calling the 911 operator and reading her the victim's license plate number.
#1 don't recall this, #2 this is false, they were allowed to search but asked for some outside help due to the optics from the previous case, #3 he was calling to confirm the plate he was told was hers to look for was actually the correct plate number
@@raiden031 False? Did they announce that they were going to let another sheriff's department do the searching, or not? And that announcement was false, wasn't it?
@@customsongmaker they were going to allow another department to lead the investigation for optics, there was never a requirement that they could not search the premises. Can you tell me where the cops got the key from?
You can definitely tell not many people watched the whole series
Never even heard of this coming out and it’s been out for 6 months, no one cares anymore it’s been 5 years since season 2 came out and they’re both still in there filing countless appeals. It’s over
@@89dungey yep justice has been served. Wierdly so many people are still out fighting for this guys innocence
Her brother referring to her in the past tense while still searching for her is so insane. Seems like he knew exactly what happened to her!
I always felt something weird from the brother
@@ange1el222agree. Something isn't right
That dude is suspect
There was definitely sketchy stuff about the brother and the ex-boyfriend Ryan Hillegas but I definitely don’t think they have anything to do with her murder. I think they just had something to do with helping the police convict who they believed was guilty, Steven Avery. I’ve heard that the key found in Steven’s bedroom was actually just a spare key and there is a video where the spare key is seen behind RH in a police interview. I don’t know if this is true. I have not been able to find this video.
Halbachs own a funeral home with an incinerator
is Candace trying to say that we all think Steve was a saint? I don't think many people thought that!
No, she is saying you got played.
I haven't seen anything to indicate that yet! All the stuff she is showing is common knowledge. Might not have been in the netflix movie but most following the trial already were aware of this info. I guess when he got convicted the first time and was released years later we were all played as well@@pebbypoo
She is and she is saying they left out details that were actually in MAM. Her "journalism" skills reflect her being a college dropout...
Maybe not, but there's many who downplayed his behaviour, introduced suspects with no evidence and some even doubted Teresa being deceased even. More people hated police with no proven evidence of a cover up, than a convicted murderer.
@@lilvc3469I find it amusing that you are criticising her journalism when the Netflix "documentary" is one of the most disingenuous ..bias and edited things I've ever seen 😳
Yeah I don't think anybody ever thought there was no way that Steven Avery did that. We all are in agreeance that nobody knows.
The issue was the clear as day conflict-of-interest and sixteen-year-old Brendan Dasy being interviewed without an attorney and still being in jail to this day even though the confession he gave makes no sense and would be impossible. I think that's everybody's problem.
I hate that the daily wire thinks we're stupid also and we're just like nodding along like yeah he's innocent oh my. Nah sis. 😢
So you haven't watched the series. I'm on episode 6, no way daily wire thinks you're stupid , they think you deserve ALL the facts, like all the edited and cut and pasted voice mails, phone calls, police and witness statements and EVEN the court room footage was edited to give different ANSWERS and body language to questions that weren't even asked at the time. Episode 7 is next and will cover all that was left out and manipulated about the blood vile. You should just watch the whole thing before making up your mind. Don't willingly choose ignorance for ego
I agree
I watched the whole thing and I am genuinely upset. Poor Teresa, her family and friends. And all of Avery's other victims, the family members he physically abused and molested, the niece he raped, all the women he beat up, the animals he abused.
MAM threw all of his victims under the bus, shame on them.
I urge people to watch this documentary. Never mind the who's presenting it (it was produced by other people)- I'm as left leaning as they come, not even from the UK, and I disagree with neatly everything Candace Owens believes in. But this is an important show.
It finally gives a voice to all the victims, and the victims of MAM such as the cop who received death threats. Shame on the makers of MAM, they have no morals or conscience.
Scott and Bobby had the exact same alibi which I thought was odd. Also Bobby's computer says a whole lot.
Yep. Whilst Earl, Chuck, Scott & Steven all had some form for sexual misconduct, violence to women or kids, threatening, breaking and entering and stalking etc, Bobby's searches were purely sadistic and sick and he appeared to fantasise about drowned/dead women. As much as a red flag as animal cruelty, surely?
@@suzyhill802as much? That’s crazy. A repeated history vs allegedly pouring flammable liquid on a cat while drunk and two others throwing it on a fire twice aren’t comparable
When they 1st showed the Scott guy I right away thought "I feel like he's the one that did it." And when they showed Bobby I thought "he seems off." And then they had more info on the 2 in season 2... I was thinking "exactly!"
0:01: 📺 A collect call from Steve, an inmate at Calumet County Jail, to Laura, a lady from New York who wants to interview him for a film or TV show about his case.
6:57: 😢 The video discusses the release of Stephen Avery after being wrongfully convicted and the emotional impact it has on him.
11:30: 🔍 The disappearance of Theresa Halbach remains a mystery in Calumet County.
16:51: 🔍 The video discusses the key evidence and controversies surrounding Steven Avery's case.
20:53: 😢 The video discusses the sympathetic character of Brendan Dassey in Making a Murderer and highlights the injustice in his interrogation and conviction.
25:55: 📺 The documentary series 'Making a Murderer' sparked a global phenomenon, with people signing petitions and celebrities getting involved.
30:12: ⭐ Brenda, a subject matter expert on the Steven Avery case, is highly knowledgeable and involved in researching and staying updated on the case.
35:40: 😕 Dr. Silkman discusses Steven Avery's criminal history and gathers opinions on it from the group of truthers.
40:24: 🔍 Stephen Avery has a history of harassment and stalking.
Recap by Tammy AI
Wait are you the AI or did you borrow an AI?
@@moonshineblues204a normal person can take notes idk
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"opinions"
"Mountains of evidence"
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"Look they paint a narrative!" *Paints narrative*
"Starting Candice Owens"
Who was edited into this film, after it was purchased by the daily wire, after it's film makers failed to sell it to anyone else, because it's total garbage.
"They left out so much look he did $456.25 in damages to a bar 40 years ago, he must be a murderer!
I'd laugh if I wasn't so disappointed and pissed off RN. Clearly they don't give a damn about human life, they just want a TV show to make money with, while they point the finger at Netflix for making money with a TV show.
God bless you, I haven't seen one damn thing that says anything otherwise yet and you just saved me a lot of time. I fkin hate daily wire but willing to listen to other narratives.
Thank you for the english subtitles! My english isn't that bad, but reading the language is easier for me as just listen. This is perfect. Hearing and reading = understandig. Greetings from Germany :)
Can’t believe how he tortured and killed a poor cat only murderers are sadistic enough to do such a thing! It’s always a gateway crime for them before they start on people
Spot on, sooo crazy how people talk about his sickos innocence.i never seen anyone more guilty ever, so obvious how guilty he is, meanwhile no one else even a suspect . Who else killed that poor girl and left her car there , so naive people are
@monzersaid watch season 2 of MAM. The defense by court order couldn't name any suspects. Steven Avery isn't a Saint, but while he may be guilty there was enough reasonable doubt and police misconducy that he should've been found not guilty.
I am intrigued.
I have a hard time believing they did this. They cleaned all that blood up in both the house and garage yet .... it still looked like it had not been cleaned in over 30 years? How'd they pull that off?
I think he committed the second murder. Going to prison for the first one, when he was actually innocent, ruined him. Broke him. He was released and then killed. Broken mind, broken soul. Bitter.
@@aces553so how do you explain the dirty garage without blood everywhere?
There was multiple male and female DNA all over the leg irons, cuffs and Steven Averys bed. None of the DNA belonged to either Brendan Dassey who Kratz told the jury he raped TH and none belonged to Theresa.
How the heck can 2 low IQ guys rape, stab in the stomach, cut her throat then carry her bloody dead body through the house to the garage without a single drop of blood or DNA being left.
And before anyone says they cleaned it up, if that was the case why was there multiple DNA everywhere on everything? How is it possible to clean 2 peoples DNA and leave 10 others ?
I hope the show deals with this. Otherwise it will be guilty of the exact same thing they accuse MAM of.
@@cmoneill depending where she was shot. "In the head". Lots. I use to clean in OR's. It's hard to clean blood up. Especially when it's dried. The why brandon described the screen they would of been dry blood everywhere.
@@cmoneillif it was a gunshot, quite a lot
I’ve watched the first 2 episodes and I honestly get the feeling that the people that made it saw how popular the Netflix series was and just wanted to create a new angle and hope to get the same audience. There isn’t anything that new in the first 2 episodes. It just seems like they’re accusing the Netflix doc of fabricating a narrative that suits their doc while seemingly doing the exact same thing just from a different angle. What I’ve seen so far isn’t compelling enough to get me to sub to DW+ to watch the rest. Not many people know what really happened including the makers of both docu series
Agree.
This was a big mistake for Candace. Big mistake.
Was getting really into this watched episode 2 but I’m in the U.K. and gutted I can’t continue watching for free absolutely gripping
pay to watch you arent special
I had to buy the episodes, definitely worth it
The daily wire has some seriously good editors bro, bravo.
Interesting. I always felt that my emotions were manipulated during the original Netflix show. I do expect some answers to the following several things I have an issue with, however: 1) why wouldn't the woman's car simply have been crushed in the car crusher rather than just hidden behind some bushes; 2) why wouldn't the woman's body be put into the on-property incinerator that would leave nothing but ashes rather than what he supposedly did with her body? 3) after being stabbed multiple times and shot in the head while restrained on a bed in the bedroom, why was there never a single drop of blood discovered in that room? 4) same goes for no blood in the garage; 5) on the 7th (SEVENTH!) search the keys for her car are found in plain sight in Avery's room?
What I don't like about this is that you guys talk about his nefarious ways as a youth as damning while, in truth, NONE of that would even be allowed in a court of law. Why? because it's actually irrelevant to the crime for which he was accused.
So, Avery isn't a very good guy. I get it. But he was still wrongly convicted of a rape he served many years for. I need much more to convince me he's actually guilty of this crime. I'll watch the whole series to see what you've got, but the damning evidence against the police is pretty overwhelming
It's the nature of his younger crimes and what was omitted. You have to understand just how awful he really is from his past crimes that also reasonably put perspective on this. It's not that he didn't do it. It's how he did do it.
The day before the county had to pay him for being wrongly convicted they arrested again...........
So, this is only one episode of ten. I haven’t seen the full thing, so I can’t speak to the entirety.
I believe this is relevant only because Making a Murderer made it relevant by saying “hey look this guy has made a few bad choices but not that bad …”
Episode 2 shows more of that, including his behavior in prison during the time he was wrongfully in jail. It doesn’t shy away from yes, he was wrongfully incarcerated, but here’s the stuff that went on between him and his family during that time.
What I have seen up to this point has been “was this guy capable of the murder he will be charged with” and my answer to that is yes, absolutely. That doesn’t mean he did it, i want all the facts before I say anything that clear. But because Making took the time to make it sound like he couldn’t do it, Convicting took the time to show his pattern of escalating issues that tells me he could. Two of the 3 indicators of future murderers are inappropriate fires and animal cruelty. Spoilers, but you’ll find both in episode 2. You’ll also find escalating in intensity conflict with women so i am seeing his progression of getting worse and worse.
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He's a sociopath. He was also overconfident. I firmly believe he did. His cousin is the one I have doubts about.
I watched this year's ago. I still go back and fourth with what I think regarding guilt. However - when it gets to his nephew - THAT IS SOMETHING IM NOT OK WITH. I DO NOT KNOW HOW IT IS LEGAL AND HOW NOBODY HAS HELPED HIM.
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Brenden Dassey makes Forrest Gump look like Einstein
What’s interesting is that there was no suspicion on her ex
They did what they did so they didnt have to pay. This goes way up.
They don't care in any way how much taxpayers have to cough up. Seriously no f@cks given.
They had insurance and were going to settle for MUCH less, actually.
I always thought the placement of the car is what made the case look like a frame up. The family literally had access to a car compactor and an incinerator. Why would they park the car at the very edge of their wrecking yard, right near a road? Seems more likely it was planted there by cops.
Because you can't just drive an entire car into a car crusher. You would need to drain the fluids, remove the engine block and transmission, remove the wheels etc, and then lift the car into the crusher with a large loader. It would take a single man several hours to prepare the car to be crushed, and be extremely noisy and involve several pieces of large machinery. The car was parked in the part of the yard where the crusher was, and Steven was obviously waiting for the right opportunity to perform the work without his family or anyone else noticing.
@@danadube5169 well said
@@danadube5169 idk about that I saw them do it on Breaking Bad
@@danadube5169 still doesn't prove Steven did it or put it there
Bro please! He hid it behind a board and a small tree branch. Yeah sure lol 😂
Whoever wrote the music for the opening credits is amazing. Every time I hear it, I get chills.
For this or for MAM?
It was Gustavo Santolalla the same guy who did the music for the video game The Last of Us.
He contributed at least one cue including the main theme, but most of the music was provided by Kevin Kiner, Jared Forman, Dean Kiner (per Wikipedia and the show's credits)@@itsmikehumphrey
I remember watching both seasons. Very sad. Corruption at its finest. Is his nephew still in prison? He was only 16 with an intellectual disability & was questioned for hours by the cops without a parent present
Yes, the nephew is still behind bars.
A lot of people saying “ohmah gawd this didn’t change my mind at all” but from the trailers that I’ve seen, they all look like they’re just trying to portray the fact that the guy isn’t an angel that Netflix portrayed him to be, and WILLFULLY left out many things. I don’t think this docuseries is to prove him guilty, I think it’s a docuseries to just show everything, whereas Netflix tried to make you think he’s an angel that was innocent.
I’ve watched up through episode 4 of this. I’ve been a staunch Avery supporter since the MAM series. But damn! The Netflix series edited out so much incriminating information about him. I’m pretty stunned actually. And there are 6 episodes left still to be released. Multiple convictions and police reports of theft, spousal abuse, child abuse, animal abuse. He beat his girlfriend. He raped his niece. The definitely didn’t show us that in the MAM series.
I've binged all 4 today 😅
they mentioned the animal abuse in MAM. they probably left out lots of details that make him look innocent too, because they have to consider how the show flows, how long it is, how relevant things are, etc.
Have they gotten up to the facts of the case yet by episode 4?
@@EarJuice Not quite yet! But they did touch on Teresa’s aunt finding the Rav 4 so quickly. She didn’t make a bee line for the vehicle which MAM makes you believe. She actually began by checking the perimeter cars in a sequence. The Rav 4 was located closer to the entrance on the perimeter. The biggest detail MAM left out was that the aunt, Pam Strang, was herself a seasoned Private Investigator by profession! That’s a big deal to me.
Regardless of his character and criminal record, the legal process is clear and he should be judged solely in relation to the crime he is accused of and solely based on evidence relating to that crime. From a storytelling perspective, there have to be heroes to root for and villains to hate and had the producers revealed all on Avery then viewers wouldn't have cared so much about the miscarriage of justice, which is ultimately what the series was about.
I binge watched that whole thing in one day.. it was great and wish they would make more documentaries that are longer and have more episodes to tell the story instead of trying to cram everything into an hour in half long movie or 3 short episodes
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I don't have to like Steven Avery as a person to wholeheartedly believe he didn't get a fair trial. And he didn't.
The car was found on his property. The last place she went was his house. Unless watched the whole trial, how do you know it was unfair?
@@baze703leave the lady alone snowflake
@@baze703100%. The Netflix doc was highly biased and left out damning evidence. It’s easy to assume a trial was unfair when you don’t see the whole case.
This statement is so accurate. I don't really know if he is guilty or not as I could see him committing this crime, but any reasonable person should acknowledge that he did not get a fair trial. I do find it strange how her brother talked about her in past tense when conducting searches for her.
Why? What was unfair? Seemed fair, just the verdict doesn’t make sense.
Guilty or not I hope those Manitowoc never pull me over for anything. They seem shady AF.
After watching the first three episodes I have to say that I used to hold Candace Owens in high regard... used to. She uses the same tactics as the MSM, sensationalizing the aspects that make Steven Avery look like an almost subhuman cretin. This series seems more like character assassination rather than a dispassionate investigation.
One thing I don't really understand is why the $36 million dollar lawsuit wouldn't continue as usual regardless of him being convicted of an unrelated murder. Anyone care to explain?
I think he settled for $400K to pay for the lawyers. If I remember correctly, they mentioned it in Making A Murderer.
@@solis2112 and now if he wins this, how much is it worth to him!?. Probably Bankrupt all 50 States.LOL Now we know why the Supreme Courts are refusing Zellner
The family of this woman should investigate the police department and the prosecutor.
Ooga booga Candice Jew puppet
Coming back from seeing part 2, all I can add is, the more complete information you get, the more sense everything makes, which I know how it sounds but - so many people in the street giving so much of their life and they dont know the full story. How easy it is to be deceived by emotion.
I also just watched part 2 and I kind of agree with you. But in a way, they have presented you with kinda the same as the doc did. They're telling you he isn't a good guy to work on your emotions and they're telling you Netflix is biased. And good enough.
What they aren't showing, at least not yet, is any evidence to show he did it. FWIW, I think he's probably guilty. And maybe the other episodes get into the good stuff. But so far, it's a bunch of nothing.
@@deadgolfer6345to be fair i believe they are spacing out the smoking gun further out
I guess I should go get my sub, right? Episode 2 is the money shot
Kathleen Zellner proved his other nephew did it.
@@hospice8896Episode 2 is for free
ok ok ok daily wire i must say u guys are pretty genius for this one capitalizing off the documentary that shocked the world with an almost identical style docuseries from the opposite point of view and releasing episode one for free and and getting me hooked again and now i have to pay for daily wire service to watch the rest
I mean they aren’t genius’s Lol .. its been planed for a long time
Anything significant that MAM left out? Because I'm not sold on episode 1 being "he had slightly worse crimes". I still believe he's innocent.
Great job on this! I’ve been binge watching it over on Daily Wire+ since I watched this episode here last night!
I never came away from watching making a murderer thinking Steven Avery was a wholesome guy or thinking he had never committed any crimes. I did come away from it thinking there were some very suspect elements of the evidence against him though. Steven in ways reminds me of my eldest brother who, in his youth fell in to the wrong crowds and did some very similar stupid things…drugs and alcohol also changed my brothers behaviour. In saying that, I know my brother no matter how aggressive he could be was not a murderer or rapist. He now has completely changed his life and is a grown man with 5 children and a great job. I like to get all the information, I agree Netflix laid it on thick with emotion but that doesn’t in turn equate to everything in the series being a falsification. I look forward to learning more and will reserve judgment. As it stands, at the very least I do believe Brendan Dassys confession was coerced and certain elements of the crime scenes don’t match the narrative of the prosecutors.
Keep watching. You'll see how you were duped.
@@Lucinda_Jackson I have just finished watching the second episode, My opinion on Steven Avery stands at this point…I never felt he was a wholesome man, nor did I think he didn’t have a criminal past…so at this stage I don’t feel duped. I hope this series addresses the evidence, particularly the crime scenes, the witness statements of Theresa leaving the salvage yard, as well as the coerced confession of Brendan, only then will I feel as though I was duped. I am not an American, so any talk of BLM or defunding police and narratives of that nature don’t really apply in my country…I am only interested in seeing the evidence presented by the Dassy/Avery legal representatives be refuted and proven false to a convincing degree…I am well aware of the tactics Netflix and basically all media:entertainment outlets employ. Maybe this series is not what I was expecting. 🤷🏼♀️
@@Lucinda_Jackson I do not believe that boy could have done it. Where is the blood? Where? Nobody could do what Brendan said they did without leaving her DNA everywhere even on the ceiling.
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@@sissy9393 All the episodes haven't been released. That said, the 2nd episode DEFINITELY swayed my opinion.
I never thought he was perfect, but DAMN he was WAAAY off the mark. He is WAAAY more violent than I initially thought.
In the sentiment of SPM "I may have been wrongly convicted, but I am serving time for the crimes I got away with".
I'm not sure what the goal is here, but hopefully the aim is to shed light on some very important details.
Starting with the sudden appearance of a key on search day 7, devoid of Theresa Halbach's DNA, and found by two officers who had conflict of interest due to the deposition they had only days prior. And found in a spot that had been search multiple times, and no key was found.
Another is why the forensic scientist was not allowed near the original site of where her remains were found. She testified to this and found it incredibly suspicious.
Additionally, according to Dassey's "confession", she was strapped to the bed, naked, was stabbed, and had her throat slit. That was all supposed to be in the bedroom. Not one drop of blood found anywhere in that room. That mattress should have been soaked in blood.
Blood remains absent.
Kratz got on Dr. Phil and tried to say the garage "lit up" after the application of luminol. Yet no mention of any luminol used in the bedroom? Where he supposedly cleaned so thoroughly? Where luminol would have undoubtedly lit that room up like a light show.
Was a murder weapon even obtained? What did he use to transport her body to the site where he remains were found? When did all of this take place? Why was the blood vial tampered with?
I expect all of these questions to be answered in this series, otherwise it's presenting nothing more than conjecture.
I have watched the first two episodes and so far it's just exposing his past behavior, before his wrongful conviction. The attempt here is to suggest that some of his shitty behavior was nothing but à ticking bomb waiting to go off, and Theresa Halbach was the victim.
We'll see...
Daily Wire is a very expensive and hard to cancel site...I watched the first episode on X and I think what you stated is all this will be...just looking at his past...while cat torture is very definitely a early sign of a budding serial killer...cat torture in and of itself does NOT mean someone WILL be a murderer...not defending cat torture though
Agreed
It's the Daily Wire looking for views. End of story. They don't care about Avery or the lack of evidence. They care about views.
There's behavior from when he gets out I think in episode 3 if that's more relevant.
The goal is to have yet another woman chime in on how big a piece of garbage Steven Avery is and make money off of it. The guy is in prison and spent most of his life there. As far as I can tell, he trashed a bar and stole things from it and had some violent run ins with another piece of garbage cousin of his. Likely he did nothing more terrible than what half of the idiot young men did in their youth in every hillbilly town across the united states.
All any of this shows is that women love to talk sh*t and this whole nation is now just a bunch of yentas.
Fantastic intro... when you cut the words out to change the sentence. A+
As soon as I heard about how Avery made calls requesting her specifically to come meet her and how she told people that he seemed like a creep, I knew he was guilty.
Im glad all these years later that there is more evidence that was not allowed in the trial that is finally coming to light.
So, he did that to her after specifically requesting that she come to his house? Think about that.
@@Jay-tk7ib what is there to think about? He was an idiot. Stop playing Hollywood script writer and use some common sense.
“Oh the cops killed her just to get over on the local creep who was suing the county!” F’ing stupid if you believe that nonsense.
He called auto trader
@@TheRobbyBobbyShow-yx7up And then murdered and mutilated her after calling her place of work and requesting her to come to his house? Then he "hid" her car on his property and burned her body in his yard?
@@TheRobbyBobbyShow-yx7up he requested her by name. Do your research.
The one thing that has always stuck with me is one of the police officers ran a license plate check on her missing car before it was found in his junkyard. That tells me the officer either found the car elsewhere or found it snooping around the junkyard when he wasn't supposed to be there. But my 2 cents is without a reasonable explanation as to why her plates were ran while she was still missing, I wouldn't convict anyone.
Update: Looks like they discuss this around the 19 minute mark.
But the question isn't answered, and his body language is sush.
A truck driver seen the car at the side of a road, before it was put on Avery salvage yard, before being found by Pam Sturm (The ever so righteous holier that thou private investigator who had the cross round her neck in the witness box so her faith could not be questioned when she said God showed me the way)
I know they won't pull the officers gps or phone records, but I would be curious to know where the officer was when he called in the plate check.
@@daisy180709God showed her the way 😂
Well, if you took a moment to look at the trial transcripts, it is all easily explained: Teresa was last seen/heard from Oct. 31. She was declared a missing person Nov. 3 - the day the cop, Colborn, got the call to be on the lookout for this missing girl. He was on duty, in uniform, in his patrol car. He got the call and scribbled it into his notes. Then he pulled over to confirm that he got the info right by calling the dispatcher. THAT'S how he knew the license plate.
It's all in the trial transcripts. Go ahead - look it up.
Funny that MaM somehow "forgot" to mention any of that.
Also funny that the dispatcher, Lynn, gives an instant answer when Colborn asks for the info - as if she were expecting the call. Looks very dodgy. Except that it didn't happen that way: Lynn spends about a minute with small talk, asking Colborn if he speaks Spanish and such, then she gives him the info.
MaM did some very "creative editing" there.
Once again, don't believe me - look it up.
Her brother referred to her in the past tense while searching for her. Even the reporter picked up on that…..hmmm.
I don't care what gets left out of whatever. You can't tell me that they didn't manipulate that boy into making a confession. They all but tell him exactly what they want him to say. That's the whole case if there's no confession then Steve would likely have not been sent to prison.
Not only that but that POS lawyer and his private investigator. Also, the trial by media well before the trial with some random made up story.
Yes, he did get manipulated to commit the crime and not take a plea deal.
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@@BIGSTANK1983 so only the detectives have the ability to manipulate him but not his family who he trusts? Interesting
That woman when she found the car acting like she won the lottery!
I must have been living under a rock, I had no idea what anyone was talking about… the case, the show, none of it.
Oh we get to watch here on YT?!
I have served on a jury ,sadly some don’t think twice about finding someone guilty just to get out and go home .
Just saw the documentary few days ago. Wow. The initial 'making a murderer' series was an absolute tosh! If you going to make fiction based on true events just notify viewers at the beginning, cause then you have morons threatening lives of others over things that never happened. Steven's criminal profile absolutely puts him on high probability to commit this crime. Then evidence just seals it. Those, who watched this, and still believes he's innocent, need to drop out the tunnel vision. I know admitting you were wrong is hard, but it's a sign of strength not weakness. The only one I feel sorry for is the kid. He had no proper support from his family, nor legal team.
Her brother speaking about her in the past tense from the jump. Hm
There is just way way way way too much padding this should be two or three episodes at most not 10 episodes get to the point
Im extremely happy to have come across this docuseries. This whole case stressed me out from the very first episode. I was so confused and bewildered about the lack of information i was receiving watching making a murderer. I knew there was wayyyyy more to the story. Always is and always will be. There's always 3 sides his side her side and the actual truth.
Which unfortunately sometimes never truly gets revealed.
I like knowing all sides and all views not just 1 side with an agenda thanks candace ❤
It's always the small towns. I have lived in two small towns and there was a crazy murderer in one of them and but the one I'm in everyone talks about how safe it is and how friendly family environment but it's always where you least expect it
No one ever said he was a good guy, but the fact that the detectives fed Brendan the story that they used to convict Steve is crazy. NO blood, NO hair, NO fingerprints of Teresa in Steven's home/garage, but they believed that he raped/stabbed/shot/tied her up and killed her in his garage. C'mon now, you gotta be pretty phucking stupid to believe that they cleaned up that garage.
Then he covered her car with a branch...it's laughable. How about when Wendy planted a bloody band-aid in Teresa's car? I bet you guys didn't hear about that. Now why TF would a cop go in and plant evidence after they had already arrested him and they had already found her bones? it's complete BS!!! The way they "found" the car keys. The way they checked the burn barrel, took it off site, brought it back and then magically found evidence is beyond ridiculous.
This was just pure corruption, but Candace is just going to talk about what kind of person Steven is, which is pointless. The man did 18 years in prison for a crime he didn't commit, and now he is doing life, so what's the point of trying to destroy his character further. Why doesn't she do a documentary about Brendan, and see how competent he is to stand trial.
Isn't it interesting that Avery had all that trouble with a cousin who was talking bad about him, the cops put him away for 17 years, then he gets out and gets put away again, there's a doc made by 2 women that paints him in another light and now there is another woman making ANOTHER documentary that paints him in a new, negative, light.
Anyone going to figure out that this is all just an endless story told by women about a guy who was a complete drunken moron when he was a kid seeing what they can get the world to do to him through their story?
Lame 😒🤡🙄, ya both are! You both sound like trolls 👿 fr! I’m gonna wait until the end of episode 10 before I make up my mind, real af! You sound like you have skin in the game, like you go around defending him, blindly, in lieu of some settlement $ when he sues again for wrongful arrest bs…😂🙄🤡
Well said. This is my observation based on all the information released to date
This is why in English law, past offences are not admissible in court
I come from a small town called Alva in SW Florida. It's so small we only have 1 flashing light , that's it for lights . There is a family that everyone knows , everyone in that family has been in and out of prison since the 70's. They are the Flints. Now yes to me they were nice people who would come help me I. A heartbeat, but if your a police officer you better watch out . The older brother (the one I knew best) tried to run over the police 2xs ( while on drugs). I completely understand that kid of family .
I watched the original and very thought Steven was innocent. The fact so many thought he was after watching an obviously bias documentary really scared me. Hopefully this shines light on the OBVIOUS monster he is.
Of course, the Netflix show was biased, but that doesn't mean Steven is guilty, or innocent. These later shows are also biased toward their political views, but their bias doesn't mean anything about guilt or innocence. The only thing either side shows for sure is that their god is politics and they are willing to sacrifice lives for those gods.
you think so even for the first time, phew
It's just like Amanda Knox's documentary on Netflix, they left out so much information, especially the one that makes her guitly
I watched the entire “Making a Murderer” series. And I have been in jail, prison, court, etc
They completely railroaded this family.
Many of these police and prosecutors should be in prison.
Theres no doubt
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Agreed
I think he’s guilty. I think the Manitowoc police are also guilty. 2 things can be true at once. I think they had trouble pinning evidence on him, so they fabricated the evidence. I still think he did it and I simply don’t see how he couldn’t have. Especially knowing what we know now about his past.
This is exactly what I came to comment, I think much like the OJ Simpson case they framed a guilty man, difference is that OJ had the money to get lawyers to get him acquitted, and Avery didn't.
You've just admitted something the jury would have also realized: they had no clear evidence indicating he did it. Your belief is based on personal background and not any kind of smoking gun findings. You have a hunch he did it. The reality is many people are fooled by narrative framing and that's what the purpose of this show is. The problem is they have their own framing going on here.
@@razorbeard6970 except what this show has done is provide evidence that was omitted from the Netflix show… and there are still episodes coming out. I haven’t admitted anything. I made an assumption based on what the first show provided, and I am making an assumption based on what this show is providing. Hence why I said I “think” he is guilty. We have yet to learn what evidence or information was left out regarding Manitowoc police involvement in the case. It is to be determined. Framing is not something i particularly accuse The Daily Wire of doing. Of course they conservative leaning so they are going to view this case through that lens, but facts are facts and if things are left out, we have the right to know, and in my opinion the show makers of Netflix should be held accountable for omitting these facts.
@@MrDaltonBousum Accountable? It's a documentary series that has a perspective to pursue regarding a certain set of facts. I'm gonna go out on a limb and conclude this show isn't going to provide a smoking gun of facts that prove anything about guilt or innocence. Otherwise, the media would have already called it out because the case and Making a Murder are old news now.
@@razorbeard6970 Last episode likely disproved the planting of the keys. Anyways, let's just call it a wash and not make any more assumptions until the rest of the episodes are out. Everything I have watched from this new series so far has provided ample evidence that things were left out of the Making a Murderer series to paint Steven Avery as innocent. You going out on a limb proves to me you clearly have not watched this new documentary series. My hope is it sheds light on the Netflix creators and their intentions and the backlash is swift. Watch this show and make your own educated guesses, or don't, it doesn't matter to me. Until then you're just saying things.
I have grow bulbs in every lamp in my living room AND my room lends itself to chandeliers so I bought small ones and hang them over my plant areas with grows bulbs of course. Also, I have my lights on timer so I don’t have to remember to turn it on.
This documentary is basically just talking about a young mischief Avery when he was younger. The first 30 minutes is the intro to Making a Murderer. The last half is talking about his “history” when he was a kid. Everyone acting like their shits don’t stink suddenly.
And cue the dark, eerie music as Avery ran a car off the road. Lol
Does no one read the "Episode 1" part of the title? It's just like Making a Murderer. They don't get to the murder at all until later episodes. Episode 1 of pretty much any multi-episode crime doc is usually back story.
The documentary mentioning 14 dollars and a sandwich, and completely omitting everything else he did is a huge red flag. That clearly proves they have an agenda.
Ya.. he stole more...and threatened his sister.
Definitely a rapist murderer that burn corpses and can clean a crime scene better than Perry Mason
You guys are literally doing the exact same thing that you are accusing Netflix of, just the opposite side.
You said they ignored certain points, same way you glossed over the potential of planted evidence in 2 min, but spent 10 on the beer and sandwich burglary.
I'm going with Teresa Halbach as the most tragic figure. I never once thought about the color of anyone involved in this skin tone.
The most interesting thing about this case is how we have allowed trial by media to replace our criminal justice system and, worse, how quickly social media turns reasonable discussion into polarised partisan zealotry and aggression. It's really not good at all.
Yes the CJS system may be very flawed but replacing it with social media opinion and 'entertainment documentaries' is not a solution.
@HarryFlashmanVC You nailed it.
More proof these systems are failing😩
I really can’t believe the jury found Brendan guilty of first degree murder.
They found Daniel Perry guilty for defending himself from a BLM mob
yeah it’s pure bs
They could have gave him a light sentence for not stoping the crime
I cant believe the supreme court didnt overturn it with all the evidence that his lawyer was completely crooked and gave him zero defense
Didn’t he say he helped kill her?
It's funny how Candace brings up how it was released as a docuseries and for playing emotions and making it entertaining, yet that is 100% the exact same thing she is portraying here the exact same way 🤔
I'm not saying she is wrong for bringing into question the legitimate reasoning behind the Netflix show, as i actually agree. How did 24 jury members and a judge still find him guilty after being given the evidence, yet the viewer thinks he is innocent per the producer of the film? I 100% believe they obly presented what they wantws you to see and not the full truth.
Does anyone remember Depp vs. Turd?
Prov. 18:17
In a lawsuit, the first to speak seems right until someone comes forward and cross-examines.
I wouldn't give as much stock to the jury verdict given it's in a small town in a sparsely populated area. If the family has reputation, that could cloud the judgement of a jury where everyone knows everyone. All directors/producers/editors show you what they want you to see, though, and it's no different from this documentary (although for me, I already know to give Owens a large grain of salt). As long as there is reasonable doubt, there really should be no conviction. Better to let the guilty free than to imprison the innocent. That should've been the lesson learned from the original conviction.
Personally, I think Owens is just trying to cash in on a perceived 'gravy train'. So be skeptical.
She is talking about their agenda and using the fancy series to push it. The DW and Candace are trying to bring the truth and not some agenda/propaganda.
👏👏 Candace is just doing this doc series for the money$$!!
I certainly think @candaceowens, is trying to become more popular. more views $$$ for her and her platform @dailywire. why suddenly this now..?
our system is so corrupt , BIG EXAMPLE NOW...LOOK what is happening to President Trump
Episode 2 is chilling!! They left so much out of the Netflix series.
So glad to see grown adults using Facebook, Twitter, and Reddit as authoritative sources.
It seems as though this was gone into with confirmation bias, not in pursuit of truth.
Same with netflix though.
Hard to know what's true anymore
That's why in court, both party's get a chance to tell their story, everyone has a bias. It's our job to hear both sides and see who is more believable. That's also why we presume innocenceif both stories don't add up we err on the side of innocent
It seems like this was produced after they'd seen what the truth was.
I pretty much figured: The Netflix series was biased and so will the DW’s series
Candace Owen: _Steven Avery had an established pattern of abusing women_
Me: So does Andrew Tate, but that didn't stop you from shilling for him, did it?
Exactly
Avery is a convicted murderer, convicted.
Please do not impeach Mrs. Owens character or motives.
Was Tate convicted at the time, or has he been convicted now?
You’re comparing apples to oranges.
Pretty shit take m8
I'm of the feeling they involve Ken Kratz and his twisted angle on this. If so I wonder if his past disgraced antics which led to him getting thrown out of office will be highlighted?
@@davidbaird6161 Agree with what you say as well as the original commenter.
It's crazy to think that this horrific scene the nephew described, but there's not a shred of dna in the trailor, and you know they checked rugs, vacuum, and whatever else that somebody would have touched in that nightmare, and what she just walked out calmly to the garage to get shot. I mean it makes no sense. I never heard his place smelled of cleaning products either, and you know they were searching the place within 24 hrs of her missing.
He would of had to literally torch the place to cover that scene of dna evidence.
Its over 4000 vehicles on the property and she makes a b-lone straight to her car. Come on now they cant keep lying to people to their face.
Your statement makes it sounds like the car was in the middle of the lot and the searchers went straight to it without looking at any other cars. That is the opposite of the truth, which is exactly what the MaM scum want you to think.
The searchers started at the entrance and looked thru all the cars in a straight path in the along one side and happened to find her car hidden in the corner after looking thru all the cars along the way. Anyone searching a large area works back and forth across gradually working your way down until the whole area is searched. Either searching E-W paths gradually moving N-S. Or N-S paths gradually working E-W. So there was a 50/50 chance they would start their search in the direction they did. Also, the car was hidden in the corner of the lot that had trees and brush that made it more secluded and would be an obvious spot to look for a vehicle that was hidden.