This Game Is a Contradiction | ...Knew The Beginning Game Review

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  • Опубліковано 21 лис 2024

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  • @jokerngesund
    @jokerngesund Рік тому +241

    Thanks for the Review. There was no real vision, more of a test within the engine. Trying stuff, having fun and with time realizing that this could become a full game. That might explain the lackluster riddles or clunky design choices. I didn't think that there would be enough content within ...Knew The Beginning to even get a review. While I am not the proudest of the game, it was fun making it and it keeps being fun seeing people react to it.
    There are no excuses for typos. That's just me.

    • @Graeldon
      @Graeldon  Рік тому +67

      Thanks for stopping by to say hello!
      We had a great experience playing through this game in a livestream. I'd be interested if you would ever create a larger project like this? Maybe continue the story?

    • @jokerngesund
      @jokerngesund Рік тому +54

      ​@@Graeldon There are plans. Not the next game though. There are elements that could connect the next game to Knew The Beginning but that is up for interpretation. But that is not a conversation for the UA-cam comment section. I can't find any social media to your account but if there is, I could DM you a bit more info.

    • @Graeldon
      @Graeldon  Рік тому +38

      @jokerngesund sounds interesting! You'll have to let me know when the game releases!
      I don't use social media much, but you're welcome to add me on steam, or to jump into the Discord to DM me

    • @jokerngesund
      @jokerngesund Рік тому +27

      @@Graeldon Alright!

  • @sixthdragoness
    @sixthdragoness Рік тому +328

    This feels like something you'd find on Newgrounds during the height of the flash era, I'm not sure if I mean this as a compliment or criticism? possibly both.

    • @Graeldon
      @Graeldon  Рік тому +43

      I definitely know what you mean!

    • @DustyHoney
      @DustyHoney 18 днів тому +2

      Personally I’m not going to watch this review because of this. I need to play the game first

  • @zestysword
    @zestysword Рік тому +89

    YOOOO IM THE PROTAGONIST LETS GOOOO

    • @taisato2091
      @taisato2091 Рік тому +9

      How does it feel being a protagonist?

    • @zestysword
      @zestysword Рік тому +23

      @@taisato2091 feels like I’m moonwalking everywhere

  • @Berny23
    @Berny23 Рік тому +199

    As a German myself, this art style and humor reminds me a lot of the point and click adventure "Edna & Harvey: The Breakout", created by the German mastermind and founder of
    Daedalic Entertainment, Jan Müller-Michaelis ("Poki").
    And I'm 80 % sure, that the voice actors are the German voice actors speaking English.

    • @aglavraowl4932
      @aglavraowl4932 Рік тому +14

      Yes, I think the developer took inspiration from Edna and Harvey, but went for darker and more absurdist vibe.

    • @ALE199-ita
      @ALE199-ita Рік тому +4

      Oh! yeah that's what the game reminded me about!

    • @popculturegamer6464
      @popculturegamer6464 Рік тому

      Wasn't that company the one that made the Gollum Game this year?

    • @aglavraowl4932
      @aglavraowl4932 Рік тому +9

      @@popculturegamer6464 yes , unfortunately. But as far as I remember , one of the founders left a couple of years before, and Daedalic got bought by some other game publisher. So the company wasn't the one we value for amazing point and click quests anyways.

    • @popculturegamer6464
      @popculturegamer6464 Рік тому

      @@aglavraowl4932 Well, it is what it is...

  • @B0wser998
    @B0wser998 Рік тому +120

    I remember watching this live on stream and hearing the constant "dinging" in the background and thinking to myself "boy, this is going to be awful" but as the game progressed, I couldn't stop watching, because the story is so unusual it's actually very interesting. The broken english and stuff lost in translation is what makes it feel special. After couple of hours, I fell in love with the art style and even cared the characters. At the end, I even felt bad that the game was over and I wanted to see more, because I had soooo many questions, but no answers.

    • @Graeldon
      @Graeldon  Рік тому +20

      There's just something about it that pulls you in. Morbid curiosity perhaps?

  • @Neopolis3
    @Neopolis3 Рік тому +82

    Truly fascinating and bizarre game. Love that this kind of thing gets highlighted.

    • @Graeldon
      @Graeldon  Рік тому +11

      That's why I love making this series!

  • @heraditestreamingarchive1100
    @heraditestreamingarchive1100 Рік тому +55

    I feel like you're going to encounter a lot of absurd little games like this. After all, when you have very little budget, just going for absurdity is a good way to try to stand out while excusing some things that might be rougher around the edges (like you said maybe substituting complicated animations with live action stuff).

    • @Graeldon
      @Graeldon  Рік тому +15

      If I find more games like this, then I'll be very happy indeed

  • @richmcgee434
    @richmcgee434 Рік тому +45

    Huh. The "neither trash nor treasure" category has been largely unoccupied up until now. So different in that respect as well.

  • @winneratwin
    @winneratwin Рік тому +19

    subtitle errors:
    13:29 missing not messing
    4:22 an entire unsaid paragraph
    6:29 unsaid now
    9:44 unnaturally long pause before the word cookie shows onscreen
    10:16 unsaid w
    10:33 "fisherman death scene" is probably for editing and is not said
    12:54 "Play clip" same as above

    • @Graeldon
      @Graeldon  Рік тому +11

      Thank you for catching those, I've updated the captions. I appreciate you taking the time to type those timestamps out!

  • @iizepic9788
    @iizepic9788 Рік тому +24

    For some strange reason the artstyle reminds me alot of games like don't starve, I think it's the way characters move and animated

  • @L1ncore
    @L1ncore Рік тому +38

    Went to play this game last night when you scheduled the premier for this. I really did like it, but as a point n click fan it was also waaaaay too easy and barebones. I hope the dev ends up making other (hopefully more challenging) games in the future. The style and the vibe are just so charming to me.

    • @Graeldon
      @Graeldon  Рік тому +10

      Definitely barebones, but I think the point and click style was just there for the mechanics of telling the story, and to let you explore the environment.

  • @breeckthon5144
    @breeckthon5144 Рік тому +20

    As a German my self I know how hard it is to translate from German to Englisch. It’s so different in so many ways. I mean just the „The“ has three different versions in Englisch 😅

  • @NintendoNun
    @NintendoNun Рік тому +22

    Honestly, this game looks exactly the kind of game I think I'd absolutely adore - and without this series I'd have no clue it even exists!

  • @twiexcursori
    @twiexcursori Рік тому +7

    I've heard more than a few times that apocalyptic fantasies are fundamentally power fantasies - and judging by the gang being named "the Survivors," I think this dev gets that.

    • @Graeldon
      @Graeldon  Рік тому +5

      Makes sense, it's essentially showing your superiority (strength) as a disaster survivor. If you survive, you must be superior to others that didn't. Assuming you take dumb luck out of the equation

    • @twiexcursori
      @twiexcursori Рік тому +1

      @@Graeldon As I understood what they were saying, it's less about individual strength and more about the normal rules of society being suspended - either literal laws or more general social contract stuff. You can't (or aren't supposed to?) shoot people for pissing you off right now, but after the zombies or whatever, who's going to stop you? It's probably why hoarding guns seems to be a lower tier of 'doomsday prepper' than stocking up on food and water - the basic level of it is a fantasy about a world where might makes right more than it is a realistic assessment of a catastrophic scenario.
      This game appears to take the bold but compelling stance that if the world ends, maybe most people just take that as permission to be weird

  • @annawanna5995
    @annawanna5995 Рік тому +6

    It'd be cool if there were separate endings for killing Kalle only and sparing the rest or for sparing just him and killing James & Kloys later

  • @elvencataccess7830
    @elvencataccess7830 Рік тому +3

    This one... this is super cool. Obviously a super niche one for those with a surreal and/or morbid sense of humor, but definitely up my alley.

  • @A.HollerMusic
    @A.HollerMusic Рік тому +28

    14:21 Okay, why does Kloys look like Klaus Kinski? I'm pretty sure that's him. 😅
    For all of the non german folks here, Klaus Kinski was a german actor and pretty famous for beeing absolutely psychotic and narcistic. It was hell to work with him apparently. Also there are rumours that he abused his own daughter.

    • @Graeldon
      @Graeldon  Рік тому +10

      it definitely could be a reference! There are many other tongue-in-cheek references throughout

    • @jokerngesund
      @jokerngesund Рік тому +5

      It kinda is a reference. Yes

  • @DanteSparda-o5v
    @DanteSparda-o5v Рік тому +3

    The only channel I turn my add blocker off for, Love your series man keep it up!

    • @Graeldon
      @Graeldon  Рік тому +2

      I appreciate that! I'm glad you're enjoying the series!

  • @mattwcook9127
    @mattwcook9127 Рік тому +9

    I was kinda hoping you'd notice that David Lynch was chilling at the coffee shop

    • @Graeldon
      @Graeldon  Рік тому +4

      Thanks, I honestly didn't know who that was meant to be! I'm not good with celebrities

    • @mattwcook9127
      @mattwcook9127 Рік тому +2

      Hey, no worries! I'm a massive Lynch fan, so I spotted him right away (plus, it kinda makes sense that the devs were influenced by his work, lol)

    • @jokerngesund
      @jokerngesund Рік тому +2

      @@mattwcook9127 yup, they were

  • @nplt8263
    @nplt8263 Рік тому +12

    Lol, there were a bunch of MandaloreGaming references in the manager's office

  • @wafffls
    @wafffls Рік тому +2

    excellent review as always! this game seems fascinating, and it’s such a treat to learn about things i would otherwise never discover. i also wanna appreciate the background music choices throughout the video. perfectly sets the mood without distracting from the review itself. thanks for another great youtube vid

  • @erikcalixto5018
    @erikcalixto5018 Рік тому +2

    The "Wait, I know you" is from skyrim, the guards say it when you got a bounty on you. same thing with "What happened to this guy".

  • @kevinmitk
    @kevinmitk Рік тому +22

    Seeing this game gave me major early poki vibes (like Harveys new Eyes and Edna and Harvey: The breakout). The artstyle, kinda absurdist characters and scenarios and to an extend it being a click and point adventure all make me feel that the developer was (at least a bit) inspired by those games. To be honest, the video just made me nostalgic for those games :D
    Great video btw. I hope you continue your journey through steam for a long time

    • @Graeldon
      @Graeldon  Рік тому +3

      Thanks! There's definitely a nostalgic feel of a different era of gaming.
      The journey will continue for quite some time yet!

    • @Berny23
      @Berny23 Рік тому +5

      Especially the stains on the first screen look like Poki's Ketchup and Mustard stain designs from the first Harvey game.

    • @kevinmitk
      @kevinmitk Рік тому +2

      @@Berny23 I haven't notived it, but yeah, you are totally right

    • @jokerngesund
      @jokerngesund Рік тому +2

      Yeah. The Daedalic and especially Poki Adventures are a definite inspiration!

  • @Highretrogamelord
    @Highretrogamelord 4 місяці тому +3

    Yup, definitely gives me Daedalic vibes...well, pre-Gollum Daedalic.

    • @Graeldon
      @Graeldon  4 місяці тому +3

      We don't dare speak the name of that game.

    • @Highretrogamelord
      @Highretrogamelord 4 місяці тому +1

      @@Graeldon S-sorry!!!

  • @tuwacroi
    @tuwacroi Рік тому +11

    I actually liked this one, the art style was charming in a different way!

    • @Graeldon
      @Graeldon  Рік тому +3

      It has a lot of personality, even if it's not exactly pretty

  • @ALE199-ita
    @ALE199-ita Рік тому +15

    This was a good watch, thanks for bringing up the game, reminds me of a simmilar game, I think it was about a girl hunted by a demon and that had pills that could be used to change dimensions?
    Dinner Bone I think it was called
    Edit: it was FRAN Bow
    and even then I was remembering the wrong game, it wasn't fran bone but it was a game about some insane girl but I litterly forgot everything aside that it was about an insane girl and then she teleports somewhere where she solves clock puzzles and something something.
    Edit: it was Edna & Harvey: The Breakout the game I was thinking about. well better late then never

    • @richmcgee434
      @richmcgee434 Рік тому +4

      One of the better games out there dealing with trauma and mental health issues.

    • @ALE199-ita
      @ALE199-ita Рік тому +1

      @@richmcgee434 Just remembered it reminded me of Edna & Harvey: The Breakout

  • @ezdispenser
    @ezdispenser Місяць тому +2

    i'm definitely checking this out, it seems like a nice short point and click that i can have fun with :3 i like when a lot of objects are interactable in games, even (and especially) unimportant ones

    • @Graeldon
      @Graeldon  Місяць тому

      If you end up enjoying it, they've actually released a new game in a similar style!

  • @ahhhhyes
    @ahhhhyes Рік тому +6

    I love ugly/gritty artistry like this. Great game with a few hiccups

  • @AkorBestoff
    @AkorBestoff Рік тому +14

    Ok im sorry you Mentiont Germany im Forced to do it xD:
    Dieses Video ist nun Teil der Bundesrepublik Deutschland!

  • @yourhighschoolenglishteach8405
    @yourhighschoolenglishteach8405 6 днів тому

    5:54 if he was able to switch directions, the devs would need to draw a second set of walking sprites.

  • @the_clover_star
    @the_clover_star Рік тому +7

    Im sorry, but..
    *WEESKI*-

  • @MegaHellstrike
    @MegaHellstrike Рік тому +9

    As an Austrian I can confirm that the German voice acting is just Germans doing english voice acting without forcing on a fake accent. Germans have some of the thickest and easily recognizable accents in their english, when I got into online gaming and got sick of Germans talking German with me I started developing an accent that fluctuates between british, New Yorker and cowboy to throw them off my scent,

  • @Busterdrag
    @Busterdrag Рік тому +3

    ...WHY DOES THE MANAGER HAVE MANDALOREGAMING'S HELMET?

    • @Graeldon
      @Graeldon  Рік тому +1

      I suspect the dev is a fan!

  • @frostare
    @frostare Рік тому +2

    I... probably shouldn't have laughed as much as I did at 6:30 but whatever, man. =P Another impressive review, thanks!

  • @Zift_Ylrhavic_Resfear
    @Zift_Ylrhavic_Resfear Рік тому +4

    Thanks for the video :)

  • @superduperdrew12345
    @superduperdrew12345 5 днів тому

    The shopkeeper sounds like Moroder talking about the Moog Modular

  • @klank9409
    @klank9409 Рік тому +3

    just caught up and ive gotta say this game seems rad

  • @thedemonspawn8289
    @thedemonspawn8289 Рік тому +2

    Is James and the other two guys a top gear reference

    • @jokerngesund
      @jokerngesund Рік тому

      It wasn't intentional but now that I see it. Could be.

  • @melisalongfellow7289
    @melisalongfellow7289 Рік тому +4

    Amazing ✊🏽 🏆🙂🙏🏼

  • @MegaKBang
    @MegaKBang Рік тому

    This reminds me of the old Spongebob Movie Game on PC. Gives me similar vibes.

  • @yesnutches
    @yesnutches Рік тому +3

    this game reminds me a lot of the inner world also german dev!

  • @CainXVII
    @CainXVII 2 місяці тому

    The barkeeper doesn't get the privilege of being Larry?

  • @budderk1305
    @budderk1305 11 місяців тому +2

    your rating system is a Josh Strife Hayes reference, isn't it? Not that it's a bad thing

    • @Graeldon
      @Graeldon  11 місяців тому +4

      Yes and no - I've definitely been inspired and influenced by his style, but I actually saw ProJared rate games this way first, way back when he reviewed Chrono Trigger

  • @solouno2280
    @solouno2280 14 днів тому

    The voice acting is. Dingo pictures again

  • @bobabobavich9110
    @bobabobavich9110 18 днів тому

    The art style reminds me of sally face

  • @notquitenil
    @notquitenil Рік тому +2

    If I might ask, what was the song you used during the "Verdict" section at the end there? It's surprisingly evocative.

    • @taisato2091
      @taisato2091 Рік тому +1

      Give me a second i will check the name when my gf gives me my pc back

    • @Graeldon
      @Graeldon  Рік тому +3

      Hi there! It was "A Cold Wind" by Savvun. You can find it on Epidemic Sound - it's not part of the game's original soundtrack

    • @taisato2091
      @taisato2091 Рік тому +1

      oh thanbk u i forgor @@Graeldon

  • @MiningJack777
    @MiningJack777 Рік тому

    The voice actor kinda sounds like Simon from cry of fear

  • @frixyg2050
    @frixyg2050 8 місяців тому

    Gonzy? Like.. *that* Gonzy?

  • @Michigan-4632hoggan
    @Michigan-4632hoggan Рік тому +1

    FOR THE ALGORITHM!

  • @geekjokes8458
    @geekjokes8458 10 місяців тому +1

    _wheeeesky_

  • @lapinte8136
    @lapinte8136 11 місяців тому +1

    for the algorithm

  • @ShinoSarna
    @ShinoSarna Рік тому +2

    So this is the first good game you found in this series, then?

    • @Graeldon
      @Graeldon  Рік тому +3

      Not quite! If you check the spreadsheet, you'll see that I've found 11 good games so far. The first was "LIFE" Not Found;

    • @ShinoSarna
      @ShinoSarna Рік тому

      @@Graeldon Nice! I will check it out

    • @taisato2091
      @taisato2091 Рік тому

      ​@@ShinoSarnaLife not found is free, so i suggest checking it out on steam first

  • @lithuanianhound
    @lithuanianhound Рік тому +3

    egg

  • @jamic6107
    @jamic6107 28 днів тому +1

    Was it really necessary to spend almost 20mn to tell us the whole story?

    • @Graeldon
      @Graeldon  28 днів тому +1

      @jamic6107 yes.

  • @stalebread7116
    @stalebread7116 Рік тому +4

    Day 8 of waiting for Celeste

    • @taisato2091
      @taisato2091 Рік тому +3

      In theory Celeste could be played before we even reach the letter "C" if it's chosen by the community to be played during stream

    • @Graeldon
      @Graeldon  Рік тому +3

      Welcome back lol

  • @mistermist634
    @mistermist634 Рік тому

    The dialogue and voice-acting are inexcusable. I am German myself and I have to say: C'mon guys, we can do better

  • @andreworders7305
    @andreworders7305 Рік тому

    This isn’t a cancelled Daedelic game though? The title makes no sense whatsoever.

  • @szymps
    @szymps Рік тому

    Stop calling one person "they". There's always only one person.

    • @Graeldon
      @Graeldon  Рік тому +9

      While traditionally "they" would indicate a group, grammatical rules have changed and "they" is now acceptable to use when referring to a single person. Usually to describe a person of unknown gender, but not always - it can also be used when gender is irrelevant

  • @sheepsause
    @sheepsause Рік тому +8

    Oh man I wonder how you'll react to the Deponia series since this game reminds me of that series a ton

    • @Graeldon
      @Graeldon  Рік тому +5

      I look forward to reviewing them! In about 50 years though haha

  • @popculturegamer6464
    @popculturegamer6464 Рік тому +6

    Hey, dude, you're the best. I hope I can get you friended on Steam! I'll even gift you some hidden gems!

    • @lukecwolf
      @lukecwolf Рік тому +6

      I would really love to make a mutual fund for the steam funds

    • @Graeldon
      @Graeldon  Рік тому +1

      I'll keep an eye out for a Steam invitation!

    • @Graeldon
      @Graeldon  Рік тому +2

      Funds from channel memberships and donations go towards new games for the channel =)

    • @Graeldon
      @Graeldon  Рік тому +1

      @@popculturegamer6464 I'm Graeldon on Steam, easy enough to find haha

  • @stalebread7116
    @stalebread7116 Рік тому +1

    Day 11 of waiting for Celeste

    • @Graeldon
      @Graeldon  Рік тому +1

      How high are you prepared to count? The letter A is around 5000 days away...

    • @stalebread7116
      @stalebread7116 Рік тому

      As high as it takes

  • @stalebread7116
    @stalebread7116 Рік тому

    Day 12 of waiting for Celeste

  • @stalebread7116
    @stalebread7116 Рік тому +2

    Day 9 of waiting for Celeste

  • @stalebread7116
    @stalebread7116 Рік тому +1

    Day 10 of waiting for Celeste

  • @stalebread7116
    @stalebread7116 Рік тому +1

    Day 13 of waiting for Celeste