F1 US Grand Prix at Indianapolis 2005 (The GP that went very wrong!)
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- Опубліковано 19 бер 2010
- The 2005 USA F1 GP was the most unique grand Prix of modern times - and a complete fiasco! I was there and this is what I saw. The video starts with the police escort that goes a little wrong!!! The politics behind the events still effects the sport today, although many of the those at the sharp end have moved (or have been moved) on. I post this video in the hope that never again will the sport treat its fans so shabbily.
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I don't want to imagine the feeling of going thousands kms away and come back after this.
My wife and I had come from England and paid the extra to get the VIP coach with police escort, to get us to the track on the big day and I think it is fair to say we were very unhappy.
It was not so much that no one was prepared to try and find a solution, it was more the fact that there was no advance warning for us in the crowd. People watching at home on TV knew there could be a problem and were ready for this disappointment, but those of us in the ground had no idea, right up until they all retired.
That's the point, spectators couldn't expect what was gonna happen and I'm sad to see that these things happen in F1, an international sport, but this happens in others categories for sure.
I was also dissappointed because although I was at home and isn't the same, I love this sport and when this happened I felt like shit but can't be compared with your experience.
If you got a great experience travelling... but I understand your opinion, obviously.
andysvideo did they at least give you some of the money back ?
Michelin did do something for us, but I believe that you had to renew your seat for the next year's GP. I ended up with a pair of free tickets in addition to my regular seats to the 2006 race.
andysvideo hope you still enjoyed the United States even if the Grand Prix was an absolute joke
I was there. We left early in protest. Our tickets were refunded, but gas, hotels, fast food, and expensive crappy beer all for a non-event were on us.
Bottom line is F1 (which is a Motorsport for developing and innovating race cars for the cars you drive in the street) did not come prepared to take on a corner that was built in 1912...
Absolutely correct. Michelin, being French, totally screwed everyone. Michelin knew when they left Canada that they weren't going to race in the USGP at Indianapolis. How do I know this? I stayed in the same hotel as the Michelin race crew. I asked them why their trailer and PR display with Bib the tire mascot wasn't set up in the commercial area. The way that they answered that simple question indicated something was fishy. By the way, it never was set up. They were likely afraid of vandalism from those rowdy American fans that they planned to defraud.
So to take your point, Bendt Fender28, if Michelin is incapable of building a proper tire for a set of COMPLETELY known conditions; why would anyone trust them to build a tire for a set of COMPLETELY unknown conditions? Those unknown conditions would be the North American roadways.
I have bought many sets of tires since that race in 2005 but Michelin was not even considered, and never will be, because of that trick that they pulled.
Oh, people will say, they paid for your ticket for the next years race. Yeah, great. Anyone that has spent a USGP race weekend knows that the ticket price was the smallest cost of the weekend. In fact, compared to other GP races it's a screaming deal. This is likely the only error that Tony George made in hosting the USGP. The ticket prices should have been double. I don't think that would have impacted attendance much, if at all.
I see at the last race in Baku, Azerbaijan, that Pirelli has had their contract extended through the end of the 2019 season.Here's an example of a company that had problems, took responsibility, got their heads down and worked the problems out. Today they are a company that is in control of the tire situation in F1.
+Jimmy Dell Thanks for the story. I've watched the grid walk for the race and what Bernie said drove me crazy.
+Jimmy Dell Michelin didnt know that the track had been resurfaced earlier that year
Jimmy Dell hey we are rowdy because f1 only comes once and we want a race not a comedy show
I feel so sorry for those people. They came to see F1, although that's not the most popular motor sport there and such a BS happened. Just a sad story
I find it strange that you don't blame Michelin. They're the ones who didn't bring suitable tyres in the 1st place.
Michelin was unaware of how abrasive the Indy oval was after it was resurfaced late winter/early spring.
Bridgestone was aware since Firestone supplies tires to IRL, and they had their testing/trials in May (keep in mind Bridgestone owns Firestone).
One could argue that it's 'unsporting' that neither the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, nor Bridgestone informed Michelin of the track conditions (although truth be told I am not certain if Michelin were, or were not informed...My guess is Michelin had no clue about the abrasive track).
FMichael1970 Wasn't it their job to know?
Gino Punsalan I guess they could be deemed responsible for their lack of preparation...Not sure how much attention to these sorts of details Michelin dedicates their time to when considering the vast array of motorsports they get involved in.
well the ones he blamed werent the ones to. FIA said if there was a chicane, All FIA racing in the US would come to a stop.
Once the tire problem became clear, they had time to find a compromise.
The flag drops? F1 does not have rolling starts (ie. NASCAR)....F1 has standing starts....with the lights.
It is an expression, not a statement of fact! It is a tradition unique to Formula One and other FIA races, that the National Flag of the country in which a race is occurring is used to start the race. In the event of an equipment failure a green flag will still be used to start and then be displayed in the pit area to show it is open, hence the expression racing under green flag conditions.
+CovertModem7532 The 24 Hours at Daytona and the 24 De Le Mans has a rolling start.
andysvideo in the end almost every racing series is FIA sanctioned to an extent
The only happy person there that day: Tiago Montiero
Finally I get to see an F1 RACE. Drive from NC convince my ex wife and father in law it will be fun. Arrive see all the banners. Cars take the track. Go around a couple times then I'm confused as to where the rest went? I don't have a radio I was dumbfounded. Then the water bottles and debris began to pelt the track. Plus was I got to see F1 cars, but I was so very disappointed.
Along with millions of viewers around the world
I was there. My first GP at 50 years old. The disappointment was immeasurable.
Cool video man. Great to sit in among the crowd and experience what they felt that day.
I remember watching this live, I was 18 and was excited about watching/getting into Formula 1 but when everything hit the fan at the start of the race and the majority of the cars pulled off the track, even I felt robbed. Needless to say I didn't watch the 'race', what a disappointing day that was.
great story here,and camera work too,very enjoy thank you for sharing your visit to usa,cheers !!
I remember going to the 2007 race, and having my brother point out in the program that the 2005 race only listed 6 finishers. This explains why! Too bad that so many people were let down by a basic inability to compromise.
That was a very nice video. Could have had more captions but a very good video ya made of all (I think) pyruvate video
I was there. I was 8 years old. Massive let down
I can sure you they were far from full! What happened is that when everyone realised what was going on (remember unlike those watching on the telly, we knew nothing about the events unfolding in front of us), people left in a long stream. Why the look so full in my video is because the people on the outside of the track made there way to the half empty main grandstands to see the end of the race and the trophy presentation.
"By now the drivers knew." Not by that stage they didn't. They weren't even told that they were going out to the grid, and when they did they were only told - on the grid with about 5 minutes to go - what would happen (Priestley, 2012). Several drivers including Raikkonen and Coulthard didn't want to pull in. I don't really lay the blame at anyone's door. A chicane would have not only advantaged the Michelin runners unfairly. In context, nor do I blame Ferrari: the boot was on the other foot in Barcelona and Ferrari were made to race with tyres that were not suitable, and Michael Schumacher subsequently had two punctures. It ought to have been run as a non-championship race and then you can do whatever, BUT only if the World Championship race was rescheduled to later in the year. It's Indianapolis, so they could have run in October or November as they had done between 2000 and 2003.
@ Kevin Going
The Speedway resurfaced the oval, and it ended up being very abrasive.
In May of 2005 while doing time trials, and testing - the Firestone (Bridgestone owns Firestone) shod IRL cars were having issues with excessive tire wear...They fortunately had more than enough time to develop a more durable tire for the Indy 500.
Bridgestone was well aware of this, and didn't say a word - so here's Michelin oblivious to what was going on a month earlier.
I remember the issue back in May with the IRL cars (was watching some of the testing), and when unpacking at the hotel in Indy the Friday before the race - there were reports on the local news of some F1 cars having tire failures...I remember thinking to myself that 'I hope all is alright for Sunday'.
I also attended the following F1 race at Indy in 2006 in which Michelin provided us free tickets (4 tickets that we had in 2005 - plus 2 additional tickets for free for 2006).
I bought tickets outside the track since they were sold out. We literally walked in and weren't even charged general admission.
Incredible watching this GP from this view, nobody knew what was going on, until they saw only 6 cars in the race. All that people are making right in showing the disappointment, because they are paying for watch the race with all the drivers on track, but I'm not really sure if is right throwing trash to the track. I saw alot of times the videos of Indianapolies 2005 but never a video like this one, thanks alot for upload it =)
Superb video, thanks for making it.
Sorry to see that you went to the race that year and spent the money and time. Did you ever make another race in Indy? I went to all except the 2nd & 3rd Grand Prix. Loved every minute of it............except 2005.
I don't blame the fans one bit. If I had spent my hard earned cash to see that farce of a race, I'd be more then a tad miffed.
@redback8 Why'd you go to the US to see a F1 race when the first GP was at Melbourne?
I haven’t been to Indy yet but it’s pretty cool that you can see like half the track from that grandstand
So that many people sat through the whole thing?
I know a lot of people blame Max Mosely for this but:
After The accidents of Senna and Ratzenberger at Imola in 1994 safety became of even bigger importance than before(the italian parliament were trying to get F1 banned worldwide), so Max Mosely and Sid Watkins had to develop ways of making F1 much safer(wheel tethers etc.) And one of these things was that every part of a track had to be rigourously tested before it was used, and if it didn't meet the safety requirements then it had to be altered and RE-TESTED.( that's why the final corner at the mexican GP is being changed so it is different to when it was used back in the early 1990's) If a chicane had been put in and there had been an accident there causing a driver serious injury, then all the people at the top would have no defence against a massive U.S court case. if Michelin had been informed by bridgestone or the track owners about the relayed track and how abrasive it was, they could have asked to do some testing of tyres at indianapolis and found the problem and either:
a) reported this to the FIA and they could have put a chicane in with all the proper requirements and checks.
or
b) had time to fix their tyres!
Mostly from Sky F1's 'architects of F1' for Max Mosely
Disappointment and frustration summed up that fiasco on that fateful Sunday afternoon. We'd been coming from the central Florida area to view that event since it's inception back in 2000. Beginning with the 2002 race, we had decided to make the drive and camp out trackside, rather than booking air flights, due to the previous 2001 race that saddled behind the 9/11 'Staged Event' that halted air travel afterwards. Even that ended with an unscheduled overnight layover on our way back to Florida. It wasn't so much a lost money issue as was the waste of time. My person opinion from the two previous U.S. GP's, convinced me that Grandstand seating(and their pricing) just didn't hold the value that we enjoyed with infield watching areas, especially the back straight that leads down to track-bridge walkover & the S turn. Listening to those cars ratcheting down their gears & their tires throwing off bits & pieces into the S turn is impossible to describe. Truly, the best part of the track.
why the heck did you put fake police siren sounds in the video?
If you've seen Martin Brundle's grid walk for this race, available on UA-cam somewhere, he not only calls that they'll all pull off, but he completely grills Ecclestone.
Why did you get a police escort?
Thanks for your kind words and yes we were not to happy at the time. But the following year it was brilliant and the USA is always a great place to see F1, because they can handle big crowds and F1 is not so popular, which means there is not the crowding we often get in Europe.
The GP's consistently had close if not over 100,000 people attend each race based upon records posted by IMS and news agencies. It was a well attended race. The track always looked empty because it's so huge and there is enough seating for close to 300,000 people. I hope F1 comes back someday. I get a little satisfaction with MotoGP now running at IMS. They're great fun to watch.
what actually happened
Yes after much arguing we were offered free tickets for the following year.
It was a nice gesture (if you lived local at least) but it is a long way back from Hampshire in England!
Can someone explain to me what exactly happened? Relatively new F1 fan here.
There was a controversy on this race as the Michelin tires didn’t handle Indy’s new road condition as a result,the Michelin runners which is half the grid had to go to pit and the Bridgestone runners only got to race,that’s why fans were disappointed
Did your ticket get refunded? Please tell me it did
Yes and No! It was announced sometime after, that Tickets for the next year world be available free if you applied for them. We were back in the UK by then and heard nothing about this and from some of my USA viewers I gather it was not too well publicised over there!
andysvideo I would've demanded my refund then and there because I wouldn't fly all the way from where I live, Australia, just to see such a disgraceful race. I mean I haven't seen the actual race because I would've been only 2 when this happened, but I can tell that no one was happy after this.
Nice video !
You may be better Googling it Kevin, because depending on who you support you will get umpteen good reason why. I think Paul Stoddard (an old workmate of mine) who was running the Minardi team at the time, summed it up best and most fairly, in a letter he sent me a few days after the event.
See www.andysvideo.com/PAUL2.pdf
When you read it remember his team earned well out of the event, but he was still very angry about what happened..
Cool to know you worked with him
+PHX Master It was long before he got involved in Aviation or FI, when he was the driving force behind Autobase in Birmingham, a project ten years ahead of its time. Fascinating man with an incredibly good eye for making the right decision at the right time. You can see a bit of the site here ua-cam.com/video/SpJfIvv4qSE/v-deo.html
Stoddart may say whatever he wants to the public after the fact...the fact is, however, he had raced, and he knew full well that he would have had to face sanctions and penalties just as bad as the Michelin teams who chose to not run for safety purposes, or worse if he hadn't, considering there were no actual problems with his specific cars or their tires, and hence there was absolutely no reason he couldn't start the race...Further still, he also knew full well that he held a very great chance of scoring major points in the WC, and that he would potentially have taken a significant prize money boost for those points, which for a team like Minardi, whose future as of June of '05 was still more than uncertain, would probably have come in quite handy. So, therefore, I'm sorry but I do not believe that he would have pulled out at any point, even if that's what he wants to have people believe...
Stoddart said that he didn't gain anything out of the event, because Jordan scored so many points that day it stopped Minardi from potentially beating them in the championship. In the end, Jordan would have beaten Minardi without this race (Monteiro scored a point at Spa) anyway.
I guess why both All F1 peoples and FIA gets booed by crowd, it's actually just because of it was no more than only six cars on track.
The main reason was that no one told us what was going on! We arrived (in my case from England) and saw the cars do the parade lap and then most turned off into the pits leaving just six in front of us to race. TV viewers were told, but the thousands of us in the stands were told nothing and that is why so many people got cross.
Ok I"m new to formula 1. So someone care to explain what happened?
It is clear GorgeousFerrari has never seen a European soccer/futbol stadium burned to the ground because of a bad officiating call.
Yes thanks, I did get back the following year and I do love the place. Not only does it have incredible history and is Linked with our own Brooklands. But because (as you say) it has room for so many more and so you never feel crowded, like you do at the European races.
BTW F1 is coming back to the USA, rest assured of that.
Regards Andy
Great video.
USA 2005 was really a disaster but it wasn´t fair that the fans boo Schumacher on the podium
P.s: Do you get back your money ? Have you visited the 2006 race ?
Should have all walked out the stadium in protest.
@kevingoing Michelin's tyres were having problems and failing causing high speed crashes on the banking. Only 3 teams (Ferrari, Jordan, and Minardi) didn't use Michelin's, they used Bridgestones. That is the reason why only 6 cars started the race, the Michelin tyres were deemed unsafe.
@andysvideo Save fuel? I dont know but it sounds alot cheaper to buy that extra fuel that would be needed than to buy police escort. And the traffic didn't really look that heavy.
bro, thank you for this video, realy poor race
I was lucky and only lived a few miles from the track but that race was sad and kind of scary when everyone started stomping in the grand stands.
Actually, it's because Michelling were trying to gain that little bit extra over Bridgestone (who were the other tyre supplier)... Bridgestone supplied the tyres until recently when they decided not to renew their contract and now we have Pirelli...
Fans Booed : Normal
When Paul Stoddart's: 4:32
SAVAAAGGEEE
So when did you find out what was actually going on? I'm guessing word of mouth got round after a few laps? I was 13 when this happened and it's the first race I can really remember properly watching, not a good first impression of the sport! Luckily it did not put me off. :)
No matter what the opinions of others are. The FIA is at 100% blame for ALL OF IT. Sure Michelin did a bad job with their tires, BUT the company said "We have defective race tires no matter what compounds we brought here therefore tires are not safe to use here. It's either you change the track layout with the chicane at the oval turn or we get to change tires after an x amount of laps OR we withdraw ALL teams and drivers with Michelin tires on safety grounds." The FIA under cold president Max Mosley REFUSED to budge on safety issues out of gross negligence which under U.S. law meant that EVERYBODY including the FIA under (again) cold president Max Mosley, Indianapolis Motor Speedway, F1 management group, the drivers, teams, and Michelin tire company all would've been punished by U.S. law enforcement for using unsafe defective products (Michelin F1 race tires) out of gross negligence. Everybody on that side were glad they did withdraw because somebody could've gotten hurt or killed and by somebody it could've been a driver, a track worker, or even way worse a spectator watching on site and Max Mosley didn't give a f*** about the bigger issue which is safety which should've NEVER been set aside for a proper racing event EVER!!!!
Yes I did get back the following year thanks (after a partial refund) and loved every moment of it. Great place to see a race and very good movement in and out the track, unlike some European sites.
Andy
I was at the race as well. I have to say the blame goes to one place, Michelin. How dare they arrive at the "Racing Capital of the World" and not be prepared. They tried something with their compounds that did not work. They did not have a suitable back up as prescribed by the rules. They were caught with their pants down. How would it possibly be fair to the Bridgestone drivers who were prepared, to change the course layout because their competitors were not prepared?
First disbelief -> Then anger -> Then riot
(...) The safest solution would have been for Michelin teams to change tires regularly, therefore keeping the track licenced. It still wouldn't have been a "race", but at least, there would've been 14 more cars on the track.
Nothing fake about them - that is just the soundtrack as it was. The only thing edited was the wind noise removed from the track footage (you could only hear it when there was no other sound)
I can remember watching this race live. I couldn't believe that nobody could come to a resolution and I had to feel for the Americans who had spent their time and money to get there.
Glad we are moving to Pirelli and not Michelin next year...
the worst race in f1 history
Damn... I have traveled around 900km to watch the 2011 Brazilian GP and I can imagine the huge frustration if something like that had happened... it's far from home, I have spent hours in the airport between a plane and another AND it's preeetty expensive!
Have you tried to get from a Hotel in the City, to the track on Race Day? I did it the following year when I was there for pleasure and it took 3 hours getting in and 4 hours going out. So buying a couple of police men for 15 mins is good value and save fuel.
The Speedway shouldn't have let F1 equipment leave the grounds without a refund of the sanctioning fee or the running of a real race.
Didn't people throw stuff onto the track?
There was talk that this had happened but I never actually saw anyone doing it and where we were. The fence being so high and the track so far away, it would have to be something fairly light anyway.
I don't know if anything actually made it onto the track. There were definitely people throwing stuff though. I was sitting on the outside of turn 1. I do remember seeing some stuff flying a few laps into the race.
Yes, you could see in live TV one of the Ferraris going over a bottle of water.
It was Barrichello
I watched this on television as a kid and remember the seeing bottles thrown onto the track and the race commentary saying that it was inexcusable even though they understood why the crowns was angry.
boy that was THE sound...
I saw this on TV IIRC. Can't imagine having paid to go there and then seeing this
I remember that weekend well. That a farce. That's all I can say. I was a brand new F1 fan at the time and when I saw all the Michelin runners pull in at the end of that formation lap, I didn't know what to think. All I know is that this basically killed F1 in America. I know the race is coming to Texas now, but the way F1 has been sanitized and slowed down even since 2005, coupled with the bad memories from Indy 2005 I think has basically ended any chance of F1 conquering America.
I remember watching this happen. I was stunned.
I suspect someone recognized me :-)
I put most of the blame on Michelin. Max and Todt had a contributing factor to this BS but that was it, a contributing factor. Bridgestone were prepared with a tire that was safe enough to run but Michelin were too aggressive with their compound and the left rear tire didn't hold up. To this day I will never buy Michelin tires, plenty of other good brands out there
Crowds booing, wrong tires, rolling start, Schumacher winning, you name it!
Totally Mosley's fault and I understand blaming Todt somewhat but he also said it was up to the FIA and Michelin to figure out what to do. If Mosley had said "Race with the chicane, and Michelin runners score no points", how is Todt NOT going to go along with it? Mosley IMO is the sole person to blame in all this.
Thanks Max? What about Michelin for bringing the wrong tyre?
Why would the VIP bus for an F1 race need police escort? Was the president on that bus or what? I'm sure the bus could have done without.
I think they only people who were pleased that day were the Minardi guys, they got to finish 5th and 6th!
I still don't get why the hell they're booing Schumacher
+Anthony Iuculano ferrari shouldn't have raced, the only real solution was for every car to stay in the pits.
+ihatemadmoe there was nothing wrong with the Bridgestone tires or the teams running them (like Ferrari) so there's no reason they shouldn't have raced. They were contractually bound to anyway at any rate, and should not have felt the need to sacrifice the possibility of scoring World Championship points for other people's mistakes. Would Michelin teams have retired (or have wanted to retire ) the 16 cars that were using Michelin tires if the tables had been turned and Bridgestone had brought faulty tires? No (or at least highly unlikely ).
+Anthony Iuculano Well, he did run Rubens off the road...
***** While that may have been the case, I doubt that that's why they had done so
What's wrong with people booing Schumacher? I remember him guest starring in Cars as a Ferrari based on himself.
To be honest Dunkle many did.
I think we would have done also, were it not we had to wait for the coach to take us back. What followed was 1 1/2 hours of watching six cars going round, with the gap getting bigger and bigger. The only race overtake was when MS come out of the pits behind his team mate, but decide to take him before the next corner (as only MS would try and do). It was soooo boring and I am a life long F1 Fan!
@andysvideo Yeah they announced it in Texas..2012 though :/
Police escorts are nothing new or unusual during a race weekend in Indy. It is not easy to get 400,000+ fans in and out of a track quickly, but Indy is the best in the world at it. Those who took the video had horrible seats. I have sat in about every spot around the track.
at that time Formule 1 were using Michelin tires, the tires could not keep up with the speed and endurance formula 1 needed, thats why Formula 1 switched to Pirelli tires, they can handle the speed, corners and exhaust heat
Rudi Tufino Garcilazzo They switch to whoever has the best bid.
VIP Coach taking the passengers around the traffic congestion and into a restricted part of the compound.
Ferrari and the other Bridgestone teams are not to blame here. Very bad conclusion of yourself. I can understand your anger, but its not the fault of the remaining teams. They did their job. Michelin did not! Why they should accept a last minute change, because other make mistakes. Its not a sport, its a business.
I was at that race aswell in 2005.. Pretty crazy stuff. Was on the phone to my brother back at home in ireland and him telling me what was going on from in front of the tv.. crazy stuff... I blame Michelin for supplying a tyre that could not handle the track. There fault at the end of the day.. Ferrari did nothing wrong.. Annoying alright but thats F1.The race will always go ahead.. Good video though.. Captures the day well..
I guess thats why F1 is no longer on schedule with the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, how sad.
I'd love to see them go back though. Maybe run the oval. Once
Maybe run a race at Le Mans?
A large number did leave, but for us at least it was out first time at the USA GP and we did want to enjoy the experience. Of course it was a very boring race apart from the one moment when MS nearly put Rubens off. No money was refund by the tour organisers to us, but many did get their money back.
It did not stop us returning the next year and that time we found a better viewing place and enjoyed the Race greatly.
You race what you bring, if it's not enough then you loose. You can't blame Ferrari or the other teams that actually raced. The once at fault are the teams that did not bring proper cars and tires.
@ATDOINFERNO Malaysia is boring? Turkey is boring? Hockenheim, which was revised by Tilke, is boring? Korea is boring? He gets it right more often than he gets it wrong, so there is still a very good chance that the new circuit in Austin will be a great track.
ralf schumacher had an "fatal" crash in the qualifying (hes alive).
reason for that where the Michelin Tyres and so all the Michelin teams decided to do not take part in the race so there only were the teams with bridgestone tyres
@Dopper04 Mostly because they were on Bridgestones, which had no problem. So yes, its definitely manly to go out in a suicide lap because the michelin tires will burst at the turn...
Which just goes to show, that there is always someone who is a winner (well 3rd in this case).
i ended up getting another ticket in the mail a few months later for the 2006 race which was cool. i wasnt expecting it, i never called the ticket people in frustration. just got a new ticket in the mail one day after work which made me happy. But ya people werent necessarily booing Michael as much as the situation. it kind of sucked seeing 6 cars only, many people came from all over the world. I would say more europeans than Americans where there. i felt bad for them. i lived there at time
I feel like being a convict at the beginning of the video
I wonder what Tiago feel in this race..
I was there as well...UGH!
I always wonder why people think its Max Mosley's fault in this? The problem was the Michelin tires. They were the reason why the race wasn't run. Why should Ferrari agree to a chicane at the last turn when they brought the right tires, Bridgestone? Plus, that turn is the highlight of the course - going full speed on that turn down the straightaway. To do that would have been idiotic. Mosley and Ferrari shouldn't have agreed to any change. Michelin was at fault.
i would've been furious if i was there.
+CRC This was a race that felt like no one even won.
that was terrible but could have easily been avoided. mainly by Michelin doing their homework and providing adiquite tires. becuse of this I will never use Michelin.
Whats your favorite team ? If it's Ferari or was the other 2 teams that raced , then you didn't waste those dollars on that ticket . :))
Lol the best F1 race i've ever seen. And Tiago Monteiro on 3rd position. Big lol. The solution was a stop for new tires every 8 laps. But Michelin wasn't able to bring enough tires to the track. Michelin even wasn't able to bring tires that go at high speed. What a bad message from a tire constructor. Michelin robbed you. Bomb the frogs.
It would have been a procession any way! Those weren't good days for F1. Last two years have been fantastic!