How Powerful is MCU Thanos?
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- Thanos is another MCU character who often gets underestimated, many people doubting he is even above hypersonic and can tank a single nuclear bomb. But in this video we will prove how most people's perceptions of MCU power-scaling is largely invalid and forgets about the many feats performed by these characters.
FYI I made this video last August, so as some of you may point out a lot of the scaling here is outdated (NWH has a lot of upgrades for the MCU) and as a result Thanos was lowballed in this video.
Otherwise enjoy and let us know if you want to see more power scaling.
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FYI, I made this video back in August last year (don't ask me why I didn't upload it sooner) so a lot of the scaling in this video is outdated and doesn't take into account a number of feats, calculations, scans and updated scaling (for instance the three Spider-men dodging lightspeed electric beams in NWH) so despite what fantards may say, Thanos was in fact lowballed in this video.
We'll be posting lots more scaling videos in the future, which I can assure you will be much more accurate, so just stick around and wait for them. Current scaling for Thanos should be more or less the same as here except with star-solar system level AP and durability. Join the discord if you disagree
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OK so you said automatically thanos is stronger than thor which is true but however I disagree using hulk as the measurement cause hulk lost to thor
@@bukolamomodu9426 ye but Thanos clearly has better resistance against hulk’s attacks than Thor does. Thor was pounded and almost knocked out by hulk’s punches while Thanos no sold all of them.
It’s a measurement of durability and not strength
Do one for dceu zod
Thanos could survive turn the universe down to its last atom because he had to release infinite power to destroy infinite gems
He easily crushed the Tesseract in his bare hand, an item that was capable of being destroyed by Surtur’s destruction of Asgard. He’s at least on par with Odin in his prime.
Not only that, the Tesseract was stated by Banner to be capable of withstanding temperatures of 120 million kelvin just to break through the Coulomb barrier. That means Thanos was outputting 7.30592165e23 joules, which is 3,492,314 times more powerful than the most powerful nuke ever detonated in history
@@theblazingvoid6524 the fact he did that with one hand is just crazy Thanos is something else
So according to all these replies, thanos is *kinda* almost as powerful as Odin?
@@dorkydorgi5873 Odin in his prime was powerful enough to defeat Surtur’s full power, which is the giant form we saw at the end of Ragnarok, so yeah. Thanos is at least as powerful as Odin.
Actually, this confirms he’s stronger than Hulk too. Even though he didn’t really have time to get angry against Thanos, Hulk couldn’t do shit against Surtur’s giant form. Thanos-and Odin for that matter-is much stronger than Hulk.
@@thefilmwatcher1302Odin likely just defeated Surtur because of magic hax or had help, as even What If s2 showed that Surtur with eternal flame would one shot Odin the same way he one shot Hela
Odin is kinda overrated. He stated himself that awakened Thor was stronger than him, so…
In terms of power, MCU Thanos is literally an infant compared to his comic version. But even the nerfed MCU Thanos was a nightmare for the avengers and the universe. Even his goth children (Black Order) are more powerful than most powerful MCU villains like Ronan, Kurse, Malekith, Ultron, Abomination, Surter (without the eternal flame) and they might be even more powerful than Gorr.
Can’t say I agree with black order>Malekith, Ronan, and Ultron, but otherwise W
Kurse was pretty op. He was the only one with Thanos who gave such a brutal beat down to Thor
11:34 another thing to note is, this was a weaker Thanos due to all the cosmic energies emanating from the Gauntlet he was weaker.
That only happens when he was about to snap, and when all the stones are collected.
Also in terms of How smart he is let’s not forget most of the world’s scientist still had a hard time using Pym Particles only hank stark banner really understood it and that’s with time where as Thanos learned how to use them in literally a few moments
10:10 actually a lowball. You can see in the book in Thor 1 how Mjolir tanked a super nova.
Yeah I’m aware of that, but as I said I made this video back in august last year. So I was devoid of most of these scans and therefore unaware of the higher-tier scaling. But don’t worry, we’ll be sure to include as many scans as possible going forward.
That punching feat makes no sense. Tony’s suit is durable, but why would the power stone be less strong than his punches? In endgame, he uses it to punch away captain marvel
Dceu Snyder cut Steppenwolf and young Darkseid
Thor is stronger in end game Russos said so and for more proof he’s not human his friend was very fat but had no disadvantages in speed and strength and was an elite warrior so with Kk this evidence Thor should have remained the same in end game if not more op as he had two weapons not 1
The russos said he was at his strongest mentally. They never mentioned physical strength. Physically Thor was at his peak in Ragnarok and Infinity War, mentally it was Endgame.
@MUSKKK03 nah, Thor was at his strongest mentally in endgame, it’s what Russo meant when he said Thor’s stronger than ever before in endgame. It’s also been discussed before: something to do with him being at his lowest yet mustering up the courage to fight Thanos for humanity and himself.
Also if he was weaker mentally how would that effect his physical state?
@MUSKKK03 because he worked up the courage to help save everyone and fight Thanos. Didn’t you watch the movie? “I’m still worthy” - ring any bells?
Also about the Russos, it’s not very clear what exactly they were referring to when they said “he’s stronger than ever before”. And since their statement is contradicted by what’s shown in the movies (if we’re assuming physical strength) they must be referring to something more compatible (ie mental strength) which we know for a fact Thor was at his strongest during endgame.
@MUSKKK03 well it does lol, because if he was still in a weak mental state he wouldn’t be that energetic and determined to cut Thanos’s head off would he now?
And no it didn’t take seconds for him to recover mentally. Didn’t you watch the time travel scene with Frigga? He was about to give up, and she had a heart to heart with him. If you’re telling me that didn’t give him confidence idk what did 🤷🏽♂️
@MUSKKK03 it kinda does. What more did he have to overcome in infinity war or Ragnarok?
half this stuff he had the stones
So are you telling me Iron Man's suit is stronger than a planet?
No, when did we ever mention that he’s stronger than a planet? We simply stated that he endured attacks that have the power to casually one shot planets. That makes his armour at least planetary for durability
Uru is made of Neutron Star material and he was more durable than it. Neutron Star material has a tensile strength about 1,000,000,000 times that if steel, I think. I could be mistaken though.
22:25 keep in mind that scaling to real life lightning is actually a lowball as 1. It’s mystic lighting and 2. It’s clear that lightning from characters like Thor, Darth Sidius, Electro, Cole and other characters from fiction are stronger than natural lighting by many times.
The reason I bring this up is cause in order for the lighting to be stronger, it would also have to be faster as well. It’s like getting hit by a bullet that travels at the speed of sound vs a bullet that travels at mach 50. Even if it’s the same bullet it’s still a big difference when it comes to AP. You could also scale Thor’s reaction speed to mFTL as well as his hammer feats would also apply to him with his fight with Captain Marvel in the What If series.
Big fax bro
Imagine bro if Thor can tank a star level feat, imagine what Odin can
Thanos is easily one of the more powerful mortal beings in the MCU (I say “mortal beings” cuz entities like Dormammu & Infinity Ultron dust him), people be downplaying him to being like a statue to DCEU characters and think he’s nothing without the gauntlet. One time I literally encountered a guy who thought the power stone… makes you more durable, and used that to say Ronan the Accuser tanking Rockets moon destroyer wasn’t impressive. The downplay on the mad Titan and the MCU is real
I just don’t understand the thought process for some people. Just because Thanos isn’t causing giant shockwaves with each strike and isn’t involved in any slo mo scenes doesn’t mean he’s fodder. If you actually bother to look into the scaling for a brief moment you’ll see how Thanos and Thor neg the DCEU low diff. Funny how DCEU fanboys always call MCU fans biased yet 95% of them have never experienced real power scaling once in their life.
@@theblazingvoid6524 fax
@@theblazingvoid6524 dude , MCU scales far more than DCEU so even Spidey>WW&Aq
Thanos is universal he confirms this in endgame stating that he could destroy the universe and create a new he destroys Titans moon what the power Stone is able to throw pieces of it at ironman Thanos creating a black hole Thanos scales above Thor who survived a dying star there's even more feat when it comes to Thanos
That makes no sense.if his punches could destroy a country his punch would've caused cap to explode like a bloody meat sack.Even ironman there would be nothing left of any of them but goo
Actually he could survive the destruction of the universe and rebuild it because think about it he used the stones power to destroy the stones so infinite power needs infinite
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I disagree with a few of the scaling arguments since there’s a few scans that upscale Thanos’ durability and strength to star level casually, possibly solar system level.
My personal scale
Strength? Large star+
Durability? Large star+ - solar system
Combat speed? FTL+
Intelligence/Skill/experience - relative to Thor, likely superior
Yea I wholeheartedly agree I lowballed him on this video. It’s cuz I made this video last year, so by then I was devoid of lots of scans, calcs, feats etc. that got him that high.
We’ll cover it in more detail in future videos but for now I have him at:
Strength/AP: star-solar system level
Durability: solar system level+
Speed (reaction): MFTL
Combat speed: Relativistic+ - lightspeed
@@theblazingvoid6524 yup sounds more realistic
The Tesseract feat is underrated. It was stated the Tesseract could handle the full force of the Space Stone, which on the low end, was able to create black holes
And for durability, he tanked being point blank at the center of the snap, which released more energy than anything in the universe.
Thanos is best MCU villain and most powerful (right now; maybe beyonder might show up and surpass him in secret wars, but in terms of character arc and quality, no villain can even compare to Thanos) reason why is because he puts most weight. Kang is just a cheap knockoff with missed potential compared to his comic counterpart. Thanos is best bc he wanted to save his own universe from imbalance
Great video can you do iron man as well?
Yes ofc
This proves time and time again that Thanos is a true power house in his own right. Even if he doesn't have any true superpowers, he makes up for it in terms, super strength, durability, reaction speed, indomitable willpower and the greater usage of weaponry.
It doesn't surprise Thanos get low-balled by fans.
It happens to alot of fictional characters.
The avengers would still have trouble, even if they had more preb time.
Iron man with vibrarium armor.
Hulk with more street smarts and physical strength.
Thor with his gains and 2 hammers etc,etc.
Too long, didn’t watch: mcu thanos is strong enough to destroy a planet with his punches, is durable enough to hold a stone that almost killed a half celestial and could destroy a planet, and has reaction speed faster than the speed of light
Do how powerful is dceu Steppenwolf
heres a question- why didn't thanos just double all the resources in the universe instead of snapping away half of all life- i mean he could of snapped to do anything really
I love power-scaling but this was way too high of a scale for thanos
Also thanos using the gauntlet doesn’t mean he scales to that feat, he scales to the power of all 6 of the stones
L + ned solos
Damn thanos is super strong. Only Thor, Wanda and strange can beat base thanos then with four stones thanos can beat almost everyone then with five it’s game over
Four stones should be enough to beat anyone. Besides arguably Wanda at the end of wandavision. Base Thanos vs prime Thor is also debatable
@@theblazingvoid6524 with stormbreaker it’s an easy win for Thor but physicality wise probably thanos
@@l00kaTuRdAdm8 Ehhh not really. Yes all Thor needs to win is a single slice to the neck from Stormbreaker, however Thanos is super skilled with that sword - to the point where Thor, Cap and Tony all struggled to even hit him once because of his immense skill and battle IQ. Thanos is also significantly stronger and more durable than Thor, even prime Thor, so that will also be a huge factor. Prime Thor with Stormbreaker vs Endgame Thanos could really go either way, probably a 5/10 for both
@@theblazingvoid6524 bruh u do realise Thor doesn’t even need to get close right he can just range thanos out
@@theblazingvoid6524 also Thor is also quicker than thanos and can easily outmanoeuvre him
Thanos is universal durability because he use the power of the stones to destroy the stones it takes Infinity to destroy Infinity
One view, six likes, three comments. Makes sense.
You do realise that the energy output of a neutron star on a second by second basis is only multi continental, right? Stars don’t emit enough energy to destroy themselves every second. If they did, we’d be torched by the sun. Sure over it’s lifetime it could eventually give off that much energy but Thor is only tanking a star’s multi continental luminosity for a few minutes.
You’re missing the part where the VFX team stated that the star Thor tanked is housed within a Dyson sphere, which is a fictional mechanism that’s literally designed to capture most of the star’s power output and focus it onto one spot. So yes it’s not realistic but that’s because Dyson spheres aren’t real themselves lmao, the fact nidavellir is stated to be a Dyson sphere directly proves Thor to be neutron star level (aka solar system level as a lowball)
If neutron stars are only multi continental, then explain how:
Two of them colliding can shake the entire universe and send energy across the cosmos www.scientificamerican.com/article/a-nearby-neutron-star-collision-could-cause-calamity-on-earth/
Just being near a neutron star can fuck up a solar system and throw planets off their orbits www.symmetrymagazine.org/article/five-extreme-facts-about-neutron-stars
Neutron star magnetars (still neutron stars) output more energy in a fraction of a second than the sun does in 100,000 years imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/science/objects/neutron_stars1.html
The average gbe of neutron stars is calced to 340 Foe which is easily solar system level, or billions and billions of times greater than multi continental vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Elizhaa/Average_Neutron_Stars_GBE
@@theblazingvoid6524 and you’re missing the point that ALL of the star’s power output is STILL multi continental. Dyson spheres are realistic and if you built one around the sun the same results would be achieved. Dyson spheres don’t drain stars of all of their energy, they just focus all of the energy they emit at any given second into one spot like you said. For neutron stars, that’s multi continental. No it doesn’t because, solar system is not even a reliable wank like the magnetar scaling is. Again, GBE is absolutely irrelevant to the discussion as no stars are being destroyed. If a neutron star exploded while Thor was at the epicentre of the explosion then he would be solar system level but that’s not what happened at all. So idk y u keep holding onto GBE when it’s irrelevant. Because collisions depend on their momentum which depends on their mass and velocity. If neutron stars are spinning close to light speed then their masses will become very high due to relativity. Again, idk why you’re bringing up neutron star collisions when it’s not relevant to the discussion at all. The collision of two neutron stars has absolutely nothing to do with how much energy they give off. Neutron stars are multi continental in terms of how much energy they give off every second. They’re solar system level in terms of how much energy is required to make one explode.
@@theblazingvoid6524 throwing planets off their orbits is not impressive lol, I can calculate the force necessary to do that for you right now. All you need is Newton’s gravitational formula. It doesn’t matter if magnetars are neutron stars. Unless you can prove why nidavellir is a magnetar and not a standard neutron star you have no argument. Again, for the third time, GBE is IRRELEVANT to the discussion. Do you understand what GBE means or are u just repeating the same stuff I debunked over and over again? Cos that’s exactly what it sounds like you’re doing. Look up what it means and you’ll see how it has no relevance to the power output of a star. The gravitational binding energy of the sun is star level but that doesn’t mean standing next to it makes you star level. Stars don’t give off enough energy to destroy themselves.
@@FahimusAlimus “they just focus all of the energy they emit at any given second into one spot”
Bro you’re literally proving my point. The Dyson sphere is literally designed to capture all of the star’s power output and focus it. If it wasn’t the full force of the star then why did Eitri, who’s been living and working down there for a millennia, explicitly state so? He clearly had to tank the full force of the star as that’s what’s Dyson spheres are for and it’s what’s said in the movie. Because Dyson spheres aren’t real (and no they’re not realistic or possible to build at all) you can’t make assumptions like that. If they’re designed to capture the star’s full power output then that’s what they’re designed for. Simple as can be 🤷🏽♂️
Also baffled the way you keep on insisting neutron star energy output is only multi continental per second. That’s bullshit, you do realise that the sun releases 3.8e+26 joules each second which is already multi continental, and I’ve already presented a shit ton of evidence for neutron stars being thousands of times above that of the sun. And the magnetar scaling isn’t wank at all since at the end of the day it’s still a neutron star and you’re yet to prove the one in infinity war couldn’t of been a magnetar. Magnetars are literally just the same neutron star but with a stronger magnetic field.
Eitri states he’ll be taking the full force of the star, so that includes everything the star has to offer. That’s why I keep on bringing up gbe, neutron star collisions, etc. Because that’s all relevant to the amount of energy Thor took - he was literally taking the full power of that star. That’s at least equal to the amount of energy that’s required to destroy/create it, let alone just colliding two or releasing a surge of energy in a fraction of a second. And it’s not wank at all - if anything this is all a lowball considering it doesn’t factor in anything other than energy output, despite the fact Eitri states Thor will be taking the full FORCE of the star - so not just energy output. And assuming u know ur shit about neutron stars you know how insane their gravity density and magnetic intensity is. They’re literally the most powerful thing in the entire universe after black holes
You’re also forgetting the fact that he tanked that power for an extended period of time; a few minutes to be precise. That’s lowballed at least 180 seconds tanking the full power of a neutron star.
@@FahimusAlimus “throwing planets off their orbits is not impressive”
Well I mean sure moving earth sized planets is only like small country level, however fucking up an entire solar system just by being within proximity and not actually doing anything is pretty damn impressive
Ironic considering you’re the one who doesn’t seem to understand what’s actually going on in that scene. You think Thor just stood in front of the star yh?
Not even gonna repeat myself again; the evidence is all in the video and my replies. The fact is the star is housed within a Dyson sphere which already proves Thor tanked the majority of the star’s power output, and Eitri flat out states he took the star’s full power. Yes I know what gbe is and it’s applicable to the feat. Tanking the full force of the star means tanking bare minimum the amount of energy required to destroy/create said star (gravitational binding energy in a nutshell)
Yes it doesn’t make sense and that’s because it’s a fucking Dyson sphere. And Dyson spheres aren’t real. How many times do I have to repeat myself for you to get it omdz
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FYI, l made this video back in August last year (don’ t ask me why l didn’t upload it sooner so a lot
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I will say IW Thor scales above base thanos a LOT but 4-5 stone can beat IW thor
With Stormbreaker yes. Physicality-wise, definitely not.
@@theblazingvoid6524 Yup I definitely agree
Actually Thor got stronger in end game making Thanos more op as the Russos said so and even if you disagree he’s asguardian not human and as we saw in the first movie one of his friends was very fat but was powerful enough to be an elite warrior of asguard and shown to be very skilled and not be slower than his teammates in terms of speed and skill other than Sif
How you get these detail
Spider-men
I'm sorry but stating that thanos scales above the power stone is a massive L
He doesn’t scale above the power stone at full power. We never said so. The power stone is stated to have unlimited power so it should at least be universal at full power. Destroying planets is nothing for it, the Collector even states it’s like “wheat in a field” for the stone. So scaling Thanos to what is like 0.000000001% of the power stone’s full power seems fair to me lol
@@theblazingvoid6524 ok good
Where would you scale the eternals?
AP is slightly unknown, but we know that Ikaris has a small country level feat. In terms of speed they’re MFTL
can you do iron man vs Dr strange
Dr strange> iron man
Hela crushing mjolnir is not small planet level lol, that’s a planet +++ feat I’m sure it’s a star feat to say the least
Helicopter blade?? 🤣