Its such a ridiculous feat of strength by MCU standards but I love it. Now it just needs to be the new measure for Hulk not just a one off gag. If he can casually do that without being angry then a royally pissed off Hulk should be undoubtedly a major threat.
@@cory6640 well it reached past the clounds in under a second I'm sure if you calculated the speed it'd be above escape velocity. Also it had the same burning out effect of a meteor which means it was going really damn fast
Man I kinda wish the Hulk comes back again seriously he needs a strong comeback dude is a missed potential, and seeing how the Hulk went to space leads me to believe that there will likely be a Planet Hulk movie or show
until Universal relinquishes/sells it back to Marvel/Disney like they did with Fox & Xmen, F4 and others, it will continue to be utilized like so... as cameos, extra character, etc., and not his own movies/tv show
And this right here ladies and gentlemen is a guy that analyzes a character off of objective feats and facts and not feelings. You can "FEEL" all you want. about how the MCU low balls the HULK. But if you dissect the MCU closely you can see that he's actually really freaking strong but just lacks screen time. Just because somebody lacks the amount of showings doesn't change their power level necessarily. It just makes them lose opportunities to display the strength that doesn't mean they don't have the strength. Great Vid !
@NateBigStar getting beat by Thanos doesn't mean you're weak. Thanos beats everybody up in comics so it's like nothing new. It's literally a part of his character to be messing up teams of heroes. We all agree that we wish he had a Scarlet witch moment. Like how she did in endgame but it didn't happen so yeah that sucks but that doesn't make them weak though
@Truth Consultant that part I could get behind!! But folks gotta stop acting like losing to Thanos is so bad when he's done the same to surfer in comics!
@Truth Consultant agreed bruh.. especially since other avengers held up better! Plus where was that rematch! Iron Man lost against Thanos as well but it was much more acceptable on how he lost making him bleed and stuff LOL
Can't... all the respect that I have is all for what The Incredible Hulk did before the MCU's Hulk. To say that I respect this Hulk compared to The Incredible Hulk would be a joke. The MCU's Hulk has just been riding on the capabilities Edward Norton's Hulk had ever since Hulk was introduced in the MCU
Hulk wasn't afraid of thanos during the course of infinity war. Hulk fears no one! He was fed up of fighting banner's battles and being a hero to him. Excerpts of russo's interview. Good video 👍 Yea his upper limits have never been tested.
Yeah but the Russo’s did a poor job executing that because they made it look like hulk was scared and so many ppl think hulk was scared till this day ! 🤬
@Titan Hulk agreed ..and he should of fought thanos on sight once thanos got to earth. Even though thanos had the stones and most likely would of sent hulk flying away or something the point is hulk should of been blood lusted for thanos again. But nahh let’s keep it that it look like hulk is a coward
@Titan Hulk i wouldn't be making that argument... first hulk is not the strongest. there are likely lots of times huld has beens scared... like that time he said he was afraid of fighting thor while thor had the hammer.
Hulk has always been my favourite superhero so it just makes me sad and angry that Taika and the Russo's did him dirty like that. He needs a comeback and atleast stay for one more saga.
@@KeyIssues You brought up an interesting fact that I think it's worth theorizing about. Hulk hasn't truly been ANGRY angry since Age of Ultron, plus Hulk took in tons of Infinite power from the Nano-gauntlet. The Leader (Samuel Sterns) is going to be the villain of Captain America 4, and there are rumors that Bruce Banner will also be in the movie. I think if he is in the movie, once Banner finds out about who Sterns has become, what he has done with his blood samples, and what he plans to do with it, it will make Banner/Smart Hulk so angry that Berserker Hulk will return and will give us a small tease of World War Hulk, until Sam (and maybe Jen) eventually figures a way to calm him down, and he leaves the planet again for Sakaar, setting up World War Hulk. Or something similar to that, I don't know, just a theory.
was hyped when clicking on this & loved the respect you gave hulk. was also wondering, since they announced wolverine's return recently, have you guys thought of power scaling the fox version of the wolverine ?
Hulk in the comics is legit in the top 10 for strength and overall power, hes not quite at one above all level and such but ALOT stronger then 99% of the characters, he's pretty much unkillable, has the best healing factor in marvel, if i recall he beat ghost rider in a comic (whole is a broken AF character) and all that for him to get man handled my thanos, the simp of death. He could have been done SO much better then he was
I seriously miss the look of the Edward Norton Hulk. He just looked MEAN as the Hulk. The Ruffalo more captures the comic book "giant ape" feel, but I prefer the ripped, muscular hulk of Norton's better. Reminds me of Lou's run as the character on screen.
Comic book giant ape feel? Uhh, the comic book version doesn't act like an ape. Yes he's not super intelligent, but they literally had him walking around on his arms in the MCU. Its literally been a point of criticism that they made hulk a green ape which is distasteful to the comics.
I am so happy someone got this right about the Hulk. When the Legendary an Creator of Marvel Comics Stan Lee passed I knew they were going to go left but I didn't see them messing with the Incredible Hulk. But like I said he's my favorite hero an I'm glad someone got this right about him.....💯✌🏾
It’s almost like they turned into some kind of comedic mascot over the years he’s supposed to be an absolute force to be reckoned with, they need to animate that exact moment where he looses it and goes completely feral up to his max strength to bring him some respect back and then I’ll be happy
Considering you can alter reality with the infinity stones I've never understood why the first thing someone would do when putting the gauntlet on is simply make themselves immune to it.
Dude.. the moment the stone was in the glove..Thanos had more power. You just proved this fact with your quote about the resting power of the stones. You can’t have the stone on you and not be empowered.
Both Thor and Hulk are fictional characters created by Stan Lee. Stan once said, when asked, that Thor was a little more powerful. On the DC/Marvel crossover they had Marvel's most powerful hero battle Superman which was Thor.
times have changed since then different writers hulk is stronger then thor as of now even thor himself has admitted it in the comics also in that crossover it said that hulk was stronger then doomsday the being who killed superman which means hulk is stronger then even superman
What i would have done make the Infinity Wars Hulk deleted scene cannon after he done the reverse snap in Endgame the gamma radiations that he absorb should revert him back into the Savage Hulk and have a re-match with Thanos (Maybe not defeat him but brutally beat to a weaken state)
I would do the opposite. Have Thanos use the power stone plus his matched strength experience. Have that terrify the Hulk. Hulk's rage cannot match an infinity stone nor a cosmically powered Thanos. He cannot defeat Thanos alone. Have Hulk slowly learn to rely on his friends more, build up the confidence to appear and protect them from Thanos chasing them in the time heist. And by the time of the snap, have him come to an understanding with Bruce. Hulk knows they need his strength and durability to bring everybody back, but they also need Bruce's intelligence and discipline to make sure they are willed back safely. As the two personas work together in pain, the energy from the snap and soul stone should merge them into Professor Hulk. Hulk never got a character arc because everything was done off screen and anything onscreen was really contrived.
Kevin Fiege has stated in the past that he’s not a big fan of the Hulk. More and more evidence that he is out to sully our boys good name! We won’t stand for it. Respect the hulk!
Good video. Yeah, what they've never gotten in the MCU is that 1 of Hulk's greatest strengths is his endurance and his healing, both of which would have been instantaneous against Thanos or the gauntlet his arm would have healed nearly instantly. Everyone wanted his redemption moment against Thanos.
bro get this thor would shit on thanos if he could use his lighting if he used his lighting he would have destroyed the ship and half of asgards population.
Hulk has a healing factor 100x that of Deadpool or Wolverine, yet he still gets beat up often and cant recover within moments. Pretty inconsistent. Forget about his strength and durability. He should be able to win damn near any fight even if he was as strong as Black Widow
I know whedon isn’t a great person but man I kinda wish he had directed infinity war and endgame The russos are great but they seem to only really care about cap and Tony Meanwhile whedon genuinely gave everyone respect, and when he didn’t (like with Hawkeye) he made sure his next appearance The only character he did dirty was quicksilver but I’m convinced it’s cause fox wanted to use him and the mcu chose to keep wanda instead
When you're angry enough, you can't control yourself and bring destruction to everything around you. If hulk's strength increases exponentially as he gets angrier, this means he's way more fit for a villain than a hero. However, he needs something to truly enrage him.
Only thing about the MCU is that it’s hard for them to capture the real power of the characters, everyone’s is a nerfed version of the real character on the comics
It's not a surprise that the Hulk is underpowered in the MCU, as they have not always had all of the rights to him so in the beginning he was just a place filler
u are missing one important fact about thor and hulk. When Thor enters Old king thor form hes one of the most powerful beings in the universe, He would rip even world breaker hulk to pieces with ease.
We didn’t miss that part because if you rewatch the video you’ll notice that we clearly mention we are talking about the MCU only versions of the characters.
Hulk is one of my favorite marvel characters and even though many people think hulk is ruined i don't share that option, i still a big fan of hulk even with him being smart hulk now I'm still enjoying his character and very excited about his future. I definitely think Hulk will get his chance to shine soon, marvel finally got his movie rights and they're clearly setting stuff up for him to deal with in the future.
5:45 folks ALWAYS overlook the energy storing and magnifying proprieties of vibranium. There's a *REASON* they were charging and targeting the vibranium core folks
7:54 I disagree here as the grandmaster was explicitly surprised Thor could contend with him... and let's be honest how many beings can really pose a threat to begin with.
that means hulk managed to defeat (if not kill) beta ray bill, bi-beast, dark-crawler and ares. man-thing it's officially in the mcu, so i guess he just managed to defeat him before he escaped or something.
Seeing how the MCU waisted one of the best Hulk storylines on a Thor movie I don't ever think his gonna have a time to shine..not like the other Avengers..
Hulk did take on Fenris. Idk if Fenris is nerfed in MCU but in mythology, that wolf is way stronger than Thor, and eventually kills Odin and devours the Sun and moon.
Pre-Awakened Thor is small country level based on him destroying the reality stone. The Stones aren’t just planetary either. The reality stone is capable of infinite destruction and putting the universe back into a state of darkness. The power stone can destroy a galaxy. I believe the mind stone was stated somewhere to be able to destroy a planet or something. Awakened Thor’s durability is also multi continental and he has 3 amps after that so he should probably be above Hulk by Love and Thunder. Still an excellent breakdown and probably your best video. Lots of unearthed material.
He didn’t destroy the reality stone. The reality stone is only capable of creating infinite darkness during the convergence which it needs to become infinitely more powerful.
Hulk just wasn't that angry at Thanos and Thanos never told Hulk he thought he was stronger. Call the Hulk Banner, or tell him you are stronger, and rage meter goes off the charts. Comics>MCU. Thanos did not want to fight hulk in comics.
Say things u know cuz some of us read comics...real comics and hulk has never beat thanos in the comics.few people beat thanos .only Odin so far, Galactus couldn't even beat him
Hulk wasn’t that angry? Sure seemed angry to me. The scene was framed to show how cracked Thanos raw power is. But we do wish Bruce would have got that second shot at him
@@KeyIssues Comic Worldbreaker Hulk's return to earth had him trying to defeat the Avengers and not help them. A deeper understanding of Hulk would show that he has little anger for someone with the same goals. MCU turned Hulk into The Incredible Culk. This MCU Hulk was just not that angry. Not Worldbreaker, just pre Culk.
The Hulk is 100% the current most underrated hero in terms of power. People forget that he was the only Avenger powerful enough to survive snapping the Infinity Gauntlet. The main distinction between Thanos and Hulk is meant to be their intelligence and skill. The Russo brothers have even been on record saying their strength is equal. It's disappointing to see how weak people think he is.
@@fijiwill2237 It has to do with durability but Hulk has proven himself capable of hurting people who should have durability on the level of his own like the Abomination so
@@SantasGAINdeer Thanos literally overpowered a Mjölnir powered cap that was given the strength of Thor AND Thor at the same time. Even with a fucked up arm he was able to overpower Captain Marvel's leg and had to be restrained by multiple Avengers at once. Spider-Man can barely hold Thanos' arm even when Mantis is trying to put him to sleep yet Spider-Man can no-sell block attacks from Cull Obsidian who has shown himself capable of bullying the Hulkbuster and Iron Man in both his Mark 50 and 85. Thanos has crushed Vibranium and Uru with his bare hands with zero difficulty, smashed Captain America's shield which can tank hits from Mjölnir, and crushed the tesseract in the palm of his hand. He's shattered Dr. Strange's barriers with just a kick. These same barriers have lasted longer against Wanda's blasts and Dormammu's lasers than they did against Thanos' regular punches. Thanos, physically, should be the strongest character we've seen so far. Edit: Plus he manhandled Loki with one hand and left him completely incapable of doing anything yet we've seen before that physically Loki can somewhat contend with Thor like in the first Thor and The Avengers
@@SantasGAINdeer They can't have EVERY punch that is landed send the other person flying. Otherwise it'd he a whole lot of waiting for the characters to get close enough to fight again rather than real fighting.
He is in fact the strongest mcu superhero character due to his incalculable strength, the only superhero to ever come close is Sentry. Mcu made a joke of the hulk
@@MarioSonicBee so I have to go out of marvel to find the type of hulk I want ? What kind of bs is that ? That just goes to show they doing hulk wrong and dirty. We shouldn’t have to go else where to get the type of things hulk does when they have the damn hulk right there !! Breaks logic ? Does any of this have any logic. ? No ! So do the damn character right ! And give us the hulk and that’s the actual hulk we want, and not the shit we been getting
I highly doubt the grand master interfered as we saw him giving off a shocked reaction and if he did this so often the crowd would lose faith in hulk and the grand master so hulk could have truly faced some of the galaxy’s most powerful beings that can be captured like how do you capture a celestial so I think the term meant something else as you can’t capture literal gods
He literally shocked Thor into being incapacitated. Thor is not a god, Odin states it. “We are not gods, we live, we die.” Celestials are also not gods, but very powerful
@@KeyIssues well, i bieve thor both is and isn't a "god". but more importantly, wheather thor is or isn't a god doesn't say much about the hulk, does it... if anything, it suggests the characters he's fighting are incredibly nerfed.
Also the fact that a human brain thought it was a good idea to suggest the only person capable was Iron Man n the hulkbuster shows the level of arrogance the human ego carries when gods are available and humans pick humans.
Tony is talking about energy NOT destruction In fact when he took avengers tower off the power grid in favor of his arc reactor he used the same phrase
If hulk was accurate to the comics the Gamma shouldn't hurt him it makes him stronger, and in the MCU for stupid reason, hulk doesn't have his regeneration which is so fucking stupid. They're screwing over Hulk, and everyone hates it.
The Hulk is the most Powerfull of them all. Dont forget that he is Human,like many others. His not from plantet X or Created in a lab. In terms of Human Super Heroes, The Hulk is the most Powerfull one in the world of comics.
The hulk was hurt when thanos punched him. A full-in headbutt had NO effect at all on capt marvel. The MCU hulk is much weaker and far less durable than. capt marvel. It's a shame. he got beat -downs by Thanos and iron man.
Hey Key, is it possible to make a video suggestion with content related to predators? I mean, I loved your 'The deadliest Yautja' video so I was wondering if you could discuss next about which one has the best predator portrayal after the OG and rank them (only from the movies) and also invite TheChadChamp again. You know, making an in depth analysis about their behavior and personality, their design, backstory and lore overall. I dont think someone has ever done that kind of content before so it'd be awesome.
@@cory6640 as long as there's a massive fandom out there I dont think this franchise will die that early even after 35 years since the first movie came out. People are just waiting for new good pred movies during a long time.
So pretty much we have usually scene base strength hulk which is how strong cull obsidian scales to and Spider-Man is stronger than cull obsidian so he is as strong as a base strength hulk and stronger than she hulk is that right Key issues ? Ps. hope I’m right but I might not be just want to know from a professional
I thought going into endgame that Black Widow would die and make Hulk go World Breaker…. I was wrong. Also Hulk and Thor should have switched storylines in endgame ALSO Thor > Hulk in the comics and MCU.
I'm so sick of the MCU making the Hulk look like a chump. Hulk is FAR more powerful than the MCU lets him demonstrate. It makes me so damn angry 😠 😡 The Incredible Hulk with Ed Norton showcased some of the true strength and power of The Hulk.
I mean- Hulk’s strength is proportionate with his rage. But smart Hulk was seen sending a rock into orbit with minimal effort. So it’s kinda hard to say
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Are you gonna do all the founding Avengers?
@@bab3419 yah eventually
@@KeyIssues bro can you scale spider man again based on this video people think that spider man can't even beat cyborg or batman
@@KeyIssues scale Yostverse Hulk
@@KeyIssues Scale Spiderman from Weakest to Strongest versions including Miles Morales and Gwen
We did also get one new feat in the she hulk series, when Hulk easily throws a massive rock out of orbit without being angry and without much effort.
Its such a ridiculous feat of strength by MCU standards but I love it. Now it just needs to be the new measure for Hulk not just a one off gag. If he can casually do that without being angry then a royally pissed off Hulk should be undoubtedly a major threat.
We don’t properly see it go into orbit…
@@cory6640 well it reached past the clounds in under a second I'm sure if you calculated the speed it'd be above escape velocity. Also it had the same burning out effect of a meteor which means it was going really damn fast
I can also do this. Been doing a lot of shoulders and arms at the gym
@@KeyIssues nice 💪
Man I kinda wish the Hulk comes back again seriously he needs a strong comeback dude is a missed potential, and seeing how the Hulk went to space leads me to believe that there will likely be a Planet Hulk movie or show
until Universal relinquishes/sells it back to Marvel/Disney like they did with Fox & Xmen, F4 and others, it will continue to be utilized like so... as cameos, extra character, etc., and not his own movies/tv show
@@bakedmomo5693 it's coming, checkout last episode of She HULK.
@Hitler Senpai H
They need to bring in ghost rider too cause nick cage didn't do him justice
@@sumanyusinha3292 she hulk was garbage and should've been trashed
And this right here ladies and gentlemen is a guy that analyzes a character off of objective feats and facts and not feelings. You can "FEEL" all you want. about how the MCU low balls the HULK. But if you dissect the MCU closely you can see that he's actually really freaking strong but just lacks screen time. Just because somebody lacks the amount of showings doesn't change their power level necessarily. It just makes them lose opportunities to display the strength that doesn't mean they don't have the strength.
Great Vid !
FACTS!!
@NateBigStar something we all are already aware of
@NateBigStar getting beat by Thanos doesn't mean you're weak. Thanos beats everybody up in comics so it's like nothing new. It's literally a part of his character to be messing up teams of heroes. We all agree that we wish he had a Scarlet witch moment. Like how she did in endgame but it didn't happen so yeah that sucks but that doesn't make them weak though
@Truth Consultant that part I could get behind!! But folks gotta stop acting like losing to Thanos is so bad when he's done the same to surfer in comics!
@Truth Consultant agreed bruh.. especially since other avengers held up better! Plus where was that rematch! Iron Man lost against Thanos as well but it was much more acceptable on how he lost making him bleed and stuff LOL
RESPECT THE HULK!
Lellas
Can't... all the respect that I have is all for what The Incredible Hulk did before the MCU's Hulk. To say that I respect this Hulk compared to The Incredible Hulk would be a joke. The MCU's Hulk has just been riding on the capabilities Edward Norton's Hulk had ever since Hulk was introduced in the MCU
When the MCU does then I'll start to think about it.
the MCU needs to respect him lol
Nah, i don't respect jobbers
He may be the most underrated superhero in the marvel cinematic universe but the Hulk is still thw legend in the marvel universe no matter what man :]
@Red Herb Hey I blamed the internet for doing that to my man hulk
Love the respect and appreciate the effort Key Issues, keep up the great work guys✊
he deserves much more we all need to see world breaker hulk
Hulk wasn't afraid of thanos during the course of infinity war. Hulk fears no one! He was fed up of fighting banner's battles and being a hero to him. Excerpts of russo's interview. Good video 👍 Yea his upper limits have never been tested.
Yeah but the Russo’s did a poor job executing that because they made it look like hulk was scared and so many ppl think hulk was scared till this day ! 🤬
@Titan Hulk agreed ..and he should of fought thanos on sight once thanos got to earth. Even though thanos had the stones and most likely would of sent hulk flying away or something the point is hulk should of been blood lusted for thanos again. But nahh let’s keep it that it look like hulk is a coward
@Titan Hulk hulk is afraid of the void
@Titan Hulk being willing to fight isn't proff that someone isn't scared. hell of of the reactions to being scare is to attack
@Titan Hulk i wouldn't be making that argument... first hulk is not the strongest. there are likely lots of times huld has beens scared... like that time he said he was afraid of fighting thor while thor had the hammer.
Hulk has always been my favourite superhero so it just makes me sad and angry that Taika and the Russo's did him dirty like that. He needs a comeback and atleast stay for one more saga.
Big rumors stating we’re getting a Hulk resurgence soon! Hopefully they put some respect on our boy!
@@KeyIssues You brought up an interesting fact that I think it's worth theorizing about. Hulk hasn't truly been ANGRY angry since Age of Ultron, plus Hulk took in tons of Infinite power from the Nano-gauntlet. The Leader (Samuel Sterns) is going to be the villain of Captain America 4, and there are rumors that Bruce Banner will also be in the movie. I think if he is in the movie, once Banner finds out about who Sterns has become, what he has done with his blood samples, and what he plans to do with it, it will make Banner/Smart Hulk so angry that Berserker Hulk will return and will give us a small tease of World War Hulk, until Sam (and maybe Jen) eventually figures a way to calm him down, and he leaves the planet again for Sakaar, setting up World War Hulk. Or something similar to that, I don't know, just a theory.
@truthconsultant6673MCU did fizz out
Right!! The screwed planet hulk up so bad in ragnarok!!
@@donkalina1543Ragnarok Hulk is the strongest most powerful Hulk even seen on screen. How did it ruin him?? He's still Hulk at the end
Hey man much appreciated the Streets needed this, 😤the Hulk slander is off the chain
was hyped when clicking on this & loved the respect you gave hulk. was also wondering, since they announced wolverine's return recently, have you guys thought of power scaling the fox version of the wolverine ?
Anything is possible and thanks for the suggestion Jan!
@@KeyIssues dew it
Hulk in the comics is legit in the top 10 for strength and overall power, hes not quite at one above all level and such but ALOT stronger then 99% of the characters, he's pretty much unkillable, has the best healing factor in marvel, if i recall he beat ghost rider in a comic (whole is a broken AF character) and all that for him to get man handled my thanos, the simp of death. He could have been done SO much better then he was
I seriously miss the look of the Edward Norton Hulk. He just looked MEAN as the Hulk. The Ruffalo more captures the comic book "giant ape" feel, but I prefer the ripped, muscular hulk of Norton's better. Reminds me of Lou's run as the character on screen.
Agreed ! Unfortunate MCU is watering down on everything. They have made Hulk soft and making the Thor movies into out n out comedy movies.
@@Bluesteel157 they didnt make Hulk soft. He just wasnt a mindless constant angry ape anymore. The comics have done the same thing
Comic book giant ape feel? Uhh, the comic book version doesn't act like an ape. Yes he's not super intelligent, but they literally had him walking around on his arms in the MCU. Its literally been a point of criticism that they made hulk a green ape which is distasteful to the comics.
I am so happy someone got this right about the Hulk. When the Legendary an Creator of Marvel Comics Stan Lee passed I knew they were going to go left but I didn't see them messing with the Incredible Hulk. But like I said he's my favorite hero an I'm glad someone got this right about him.....💯✌🏾
Yeah, I am not going to lie, they did the Hulk really dirty in the MCU lately.
We need Maestro Hulk in the MCU. Probably as a variant. Maestro Hulk defeated every hero he could find.
I really do hope we eventually get world breaker hulk on scene
My homies finally dropping some respect on my boys name!
Great video as usual man, such a shame the green Goliath hasn’t got more to show 🥲
Thank you 🙏
Bro, Did the right thing calling hulk the strongest avenger
It’s almost like they turned into some kind of comedic mascot over the years he’s supposed to be an absolute force to be reckoned with, they need to animate that exact moment where he looses it and goes completely feral up to his max strength to bring him some respect back and then I’ll be happy
God, what I wouldn't give for an all out Hulk movie. 101% Hulk. He is so badass, and Spider-Man is right behind him.
Considering you can alter reality with the infinity stones I've never understood why the first thing someone would do when putting the gauntlet on is simply make themselves immune to it.
Not sure why Tony Stark's comment about lighting up a continent is used to support your argument. Completely subjective.
Dude.. the moment the stone was in the glove..Thanos had more power. You just proved this fact with your quote about the resting power of the stones. You can’t have the stone on you and not be empowered.
Imagine how strong the hulk would get if someone would catcall him!
All Bruce needed was verbalized attention from females growing up and he would’ve skipped the years of dealing with his angry 😅
At least the she hulk show is displaying how much control hulk now has.
When the MCU eventually makes him snap again, it will be all the more amazing.
Weird comment.
@@KeyIssues She Hulk references lol. God they ruined that character.
@@KeyIssuesstfu
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Both Thor and Hulk are fictional characters created by Stan Lee. Stan once said, when asked, that Thor was a little more powerful. On the DC/Marvel crossover they had Marvel's most powerful hero battle Superman which was Thor.
times have changed since then different writers hulk is stronger then thor as of now even thor himself has admitted it in the comics also in that crossover it said that hulk was stronger then doomsday the being who killed superman which means hulk is stronger then even superman
What i would have done make the Infinity Wars Hulk deleted scene cannon after he done the reverse snap in Endgame the gamma radiations that he absorb should revert him back into the Savage Hulk and have a re-match with Thanos (Maybe not defeat him but brutally beat to a weaken state)
I would do the opposite. Have Thanos use the power stone plus his matched strength experience. Have that terrify the Hulk. Hulk's rage cannot match an infinity stone nor a cosmically powered Thanos. He cannot defeat Thanos alone. Have Hulk slowly learn to rely on his friends more, build up the confidence to appear and protect them from Thanos chasing them in the time heist. And by the time of the snap, have him come to an understanding with Bruce. Hulk knows they need his strength and durability to bring everybody back, but they also need Bruce's intelligence and discipline to make sure they are willed back safely. As the two personas work together in pain, the energy from the snap and soul stone should merge them into Professor Hulk.
Hulk never got a character arc because everything was done off screen and anything onscreen was really contrived.
I never thought in a million years marvel would shit on the freaking HULK!!! 🙄🙄🙄
Kevin Fiege has stated in the past that he’s not a big fan of the Hulk. More and more evidence that he is out to sully our boys good name! We won’t stand for it. Respect the hulk!
Bruce is an actual character, Hulk isnt. Can't just have Mark Ruffalo grunting in GGI for the entire movie.
Good video. Yeah, what they've never gotten in the MCU is that 1 of Hulk's greatest strengths is his endurance and his healing, both of which would have been instantaneous against Thanos or the gauntlet his arm would have healed nearly instantly. Everyone wanted his redemption moment against Thanos.
The gauntlet hurt Thanos worse than Hulk, and it's Thanos...
The HULK is always 1 of my favorite super hero of all times
bro get this thor would shit on thanos if he could use his lighting if he used his lighting he would have destroyed the ship and half of asgards population.
They hatin on the hulk in the MCU right now mane. They treating him better in the comics!
Hulk has a healing factor 100x that of Deadpool or Wolverine, yet he still gets beat up often and cant recover within moments. Pretty inconsistent. Forget about his strength and durability. He should be able to win damn near any fight even if he was as strong as Black Widow
I wholeheartedly agree with this video
The Hulk and Sentry beat each other out of their power form… Sentry is basically Superman 1.3x
I know whedon isn’t a great person but man I kinda wish he had directed infinity war and endgame
The russos are great but they seem to only really care about cap and Tony
Meanwhile whedon genuinely gave everyone respect, and when he didn’t (like with Hawkeye) he made sure his next appearance
The only character he did dirty was quicksilver but I’m convinced it’s cause fox wanted to use him and the mcu chose to keep wanda instead
Hulk, the strongest Avenger. Just don’t ask Thor.
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@Truth Consultant citation needed. even comicbook thor gets regurarly nerfed and underestimated. people actually believe thor is weaker than odi .
In the MCU, Thor is stronger
In the MCU, Thor is more powerful but Hulk is stronger
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When you're angry enough, you can't control yourself and bring destruction to everything around you. If hulk's strength increases exponentially as he gets angrier, this means he's way more fit for a villain than a hero. However, he needs something to truly enrage him.
Only thing about the MCU is that it’s hard for them to capture the real power of the characters, everyone’s is a nerfed version of the real character on the comics
The amount of mental and verbal gymnastics in this video is quite laughable
11:12 that was smooth as hell
It's not a surprise that the Hulk is underpowered in the MCU, as they have not always had all of the rights to him so in the beginning he was just a place filler
i hope one day they show his true powers on the big screen. Unlimited strength rapid health regen
u are missing one important fact about thor and hulk. When Thor enters Old king thor form hes one of the most powerful beings in the universe, He would rip even world breaker hulk to pieces with ease.
We didn’t miss that part because if you rewatch the video you’ll notice that we clearly mention we are talking about the MCU only versions of the characters.
@@KeyIssues and yet u have worldbreaker hulk in the vid? :P
Hulk is one of my favorite marvel characters and even though many people think hulk is ruined i don't share that option, i still a big fan of hulk even with him being smart hulk now I'm still enjoying his character and very excited about his future. I definitely think Hulk will get his chance to shine soon, marvel finally got his movie rights and they're clearly setting stuff up for him to deal with in the future.
MCU Hulk was nerfed so badly after 2012
Look what they did to our boy
Hulk’s Disney it’s a joke
This is the world breaker Hulk?
Are you kidding right??????
The Incredible Hulk is still the best Hulk iteration
Other than the comics, yes. Agreed.
Amen
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No he wasn't. He was Uber weak. Could barely pick up a humvee, couldn't super jump, and was almost killed by sound.
Please do more scaling !!! And do more about the hulk buster power !
“By using his unique belend of savage rage”😂😂😂 7:46
Notice you didn’t talk about speed at all but still good video
They all scale to each other in speed
It’d be repetitive to bring up speed for the 2029282 time in a video
In the She-Hulk series, they took his balls away
5:45 folks ALWAYS overlook the energy storing and magnifying proprieties of vibranium. There's a *REASON* they were charging and targeting the vibranium core folks
7:54 I disagree here as the grandmaster was explicitly surprised Thor could contend with him... and let's be honest how many beings can really pose a threat to begin with.
that means hulk managed to defeat (if not kill) beta ray bill, bi-beast, dark-crawler and ares. man-thing it's officially in the mcu, so i guess he just managed to defeat him before he escaped or something.
Seeing how the MCU waisted one of the best Hulk storylines on a Thor movie I don't ever think his gonna have a time to shine..not like the other Avengers..
Hulk did take on Fenris. Idk if Fenris is nerfed in MCU but in mythology, that wolf is way stronger than Thor, and eventually kills Odin and devours the Sun and moon.
Pre-Awakened Thor is small country level based on him destroying the reality stone. The Stones aren’t just planetary either. The reality stone is capable of infinite destruction and putting the universe back into a state of darkness. The power stone can destroy a galaxy. I believe the mind stone was stated somewhere to be able to destroy a planet or something. Awakened Thor’s durability is also multi continental and he has 3 amps after that so he should probably be above Hulk by Love and Thunder. Still an excellent breakdown and probably your best video. Lots of unearthed material.
He didn’t destroy the reality stone. The reality stone is only capable of creating infinite darkness during the convergence which it needs to become infinitely more powerful.
@@KeyIssues he destroyed the encasing of the stone which is why there was a similar explosion to when Wanda did the same.
No thor shouldn’t be above hulk
@@tbone2123 yeah he should
@@FahimusAlimus no he shouldn’t hulk has unlimited strength and power thor doesn’t have that
They need to bring out a new hulk movie
1:07 this UFC part had my gut hurting 😅🤣😂
Hulk just wasn't that angry at Thanos and Thanos never told Hulk he thought he was stronger. Call the Hulk Banner, or tell him you are stronger, and rage meter goes off the charts. Comics>MCU. Thanos did not want to fight hulk in comics.
Say things u know cuz some of us read comics...real comics and hulk has never beat thanos in the comics.few people beat thanos .only Odin so far, Galactus couldn't even beat him
Hulk wasn’t that angry? Sure seemed angry to me. The scene was framed to show how cracked Thanos raw power is. But we do wish Bruce would have got that second shot at him
@@KeyIssues Comic Worldbreaker Hulk's return to earth had him trying to defeat the Avengers and not help them. A deeper understanding of Hulk would show that he has little anger for someone with the same goals. MCU turned Hulk into The Incredible Culk. This MCU Hulk was just not that angry. Not Worldbreaker, just pre Culk.
Movie Hulk isn't ever shown or stated to get stronger when angrier. That's just in the comics at this point.
I know a certain Chad is gonna like this vid
The Hulk is 100% the current most underrated hero in terms of power. People forget that he was the only Avenger powerful enough to survive snapping the Infinity Gauntlet.
The main distinction between Thanos and Hulk is meant to be their intelligence and skill. The Russo brothers have even been on record saying their strength is equal. It's disappointing to see how weak people think he is.
That has nothing to do with strength tho, hulk has a ridiculous healing factor thats why he survived the gauntlet.
@@fijiwill2237 It has to do with durability but Hulk has proven himself capable of hurting people who should have durability on the level of his own like the Abomination so
@@SantasGAINdeer Thanos literally overpowered a Mjölnir powered cap that was given the strength of Thor AND Thor at the same time. Even with a fucked up arm he was able to overpower Captain Marvel's leg and had to be restrained by multiple Avengers at once. Spider-Man can barely hold Thanos' arm even when Mantis is trying to put him to sleep yet Spider-Man can no-sell block attacks from Cull Obsidian who has shown himself capable of bullying the Hulkbuster and Iron Man in both his Mark 50 and 85.
Thanos has crushed Vibranium and Uru with his bare hands with zero difficulty, smashed Captain America's shield which can tank hits from Mjölnir, and crushed the tesseract in the palm of his hand. He's shattered Dr. Strange's barriers with just a kick. These same barriers have lasted longer against Wanda's blasts and Dormammu's lasers than they did against Thanos' regular punches. Thanos, physically, should be the strongest character we've seen so far.
Edit: Plus he manhandled Loki with one hand and left him completely incapable of doing anything yet we've seen before that physically Loki can somewhat contend with Thor like in the first Thor and The Avengers
@@SantasGAINdeer So your issue is that it isn't flashy with people getting thrown hundreds of meters? It's not Dragon Ball Z lmao.
@@SantasGAINdeer They can't have EVERY punch that is landed send the other person flying. Otherwise it'd he a whole lot of waiting for the characters to get close enough to fight again rather than real fighting.
He trained with Rickson Gracie. The undefeated Grandmaster of Gracie Jiu Jitsu
He is in fact the strongest mcu superhero character due to his incalculable strength, the only superhero to ever come close is Sentry. Mcu made a joke of the hulk
Hulk being the measuring stick for strength is indeed disrespectful.
The MCU Hulk is one of the WEAKEST versions of the character we have seen!!
What a shocker, how dare hulk not 1 shot the multiverse, MCU trash!
@@cory6640 yup mcu hulk is trash !
@Titan Hulk because they don’t known anything but what the mcu tells them they are not true hulk fans they are mcu fans
@@tbone2123 ah yes cause what we want is a character that breaks all logic for a dumb fight scene. Go watch Dragon Ball, you’ll get your Hulk there
@@MarioSonicBee so I have to go out of marvel to find the type of hulk I want ? What kind of bs is that ? That just goes to show they doing hulk wrong and dirty. We shouldn’t have to go else where to get the type of things hulk does when they have the damn hulk right there !! Breaks logic ? Does any of this have any logic. ? No ! So do the damn character right ! And give us the hulk and that’s the actual hulk we want, and not the shit we been getting
Why Superman didn't survived the Unity plzz tell me?
HULK IS STRONGEST THERE IS!!!!!!
If 2008 hulk was absorbing the gamma radiation from the gauntlet in endgame, he would've probably gone over raged I bet.
I actually left Endgame depressed cuz all I wanted was a Hulk Thanks rematch
Thanks liol
Underrated
Hulk is the Finn of the MCU. totally screwed over by hack filmmakers.
At least they didn’t make him scream “rey!” 400x and delete the rest of his dialog
Amazing video man :]
🙏 thank you friend!
I highly doubt the grand master interfered as we saw him giving off a shocked reaction and if he did this so often the crowd would lose faith in hulk and the grand master so hulk could have truly faced some of the galaxy’s most powerful beings that can be captured like how do you capture a celestial so I think the term meant something else as you can’t capture literal gods
He literally shocked Thor into being incapacitated.
Thor is not a god, Odin states it. “We are not gods, we live, we die.”
Celestials are also not gods, but very powerful
@@KeyIssues well, i bieve thor both is and isn't a "god". but more importantly, wheather thor is or isn't a god doesn't say much about the hulk, does it... if anything, it suggests the characters he's fighting are incredibly nerfed.
Also the fact that a human brain thought it was a good idea to suggest the only person capable was Iron Man n the hulkbuster shows the level of arrogance the human ego carries when gods are available and humans pick humans.
I kinda like that went quick was known as the world breaker for breaker of worlds depending upon who you talk to
Tony is talking about energy NOT destruction
In fact when he took avengers tower off the power grid in favor of his arc reactor he used the same phrase
If hulk was accurate to the comics the Gamma shouldn't hurt him it makes him stronger, and in the MCU for stupid reason, hulk doesn't have his regeneration which is so fucking stupid. They're screwing over Hulk, and everyone hates it.
The Hulk is the most Powerfull of them all.
Dont forget that he is Human,like many others.
His not from plantet X or Created in a lab.
In terms of Human Super Heroes, The Hulk is the most Powerfull one in the world of comics.
We haven't seen World breaker in the MCU and really didn't see World War Hulk.
You would think after his fight against thor in ragnarok he would've put up a better fight
Taking down Hulk with a kidney shot. Yeah, right. Haha!
I hate how they made hulk look so soy in recent movies/shows
I hate that he doesn’t rip his shorts off
The hulk was hurt when thanos punched him. A full-in headbutt had NO effect at all on capt marvel. The MCU hulk is much weaker and far less durable than. capt marvel. It's a shame. he got beat -downs by Thanos and iron man.
I can only hope that the MCU is waiting to crack the Hulk final form for a really big baddy!
Hulk is strongest there is not one has ever put him down that I know of GOD BLESS y’all Amen 🙏
Hey Key, is it possible to make a video suggestion with content related to predators?
I mean, I loved your 'The deadliest Yautja' video so I was wondering if you could discuss next about which one has the best predator portrayal after the OG and rank them (only from the movies) and also invite TheChadChamp again.
You know, making an in depth analysis about their behavior and personality, their design, backstory and lore overall.
I dont think someone has ever done that kind of content before so it'd be awesome.
I'm hoping you will read all of this LOL
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Predator is a dead franchise that doesn’t need to come back, let it die lmfao
@@cory6640 as long as there's a massive fandom out there I dont think this franchise will die that early even after 35 years since the first movie came out. People are just waiting for new good pred movies during a long time.
@@W.A.S.D_Games waiting that long for The Predator. Almost pity the fandom as much as I pity DCEU fans.
So pretty much we have usually scene base strength hulk which is how strong cull obsidian scales to and Spider-Man is stronger than cull obsidian so he is as strong as a base strength hulk and stronger than she hulk is that right Key issues ?
Ps. hope I’m right but I might not be just want to know from a professional
I prefer the rage monster more than 🤓
I thought going into endgame that Black Widow would die and make Hulk go World Breaker…. I was wrong.
Also Hulk and Thor should have switched storylines in endgame
ALSO Thor > Hulk in the comics and MCU.
*Looks at “smart hulk”…* LOOK WHAT THEY DID TO MY BOY! They massacred him!!
Bruce is an actual character, Hulk isnt. Can't just have Mark Ruffalo grunting in GGI for the entire movie.
@@TheInedibleHulk f that I want hulk not no damn Bruce and definitely not a green Bruce they ruined hulk
@@tbone2123 "f that I want hulk not no damn Bruce and definitely not a green Bruce they ruined hulk"
Was that a sentence? I can't follow.
Thanos has the power stone on hand, he took it from thor
Titan hulk cosmic hulk hulk punched trhu the multiverse
early as hell, saw it on my recommended 1 second ago (edit)
Hulk 2008 was the best hulk for me he looks really mutated and dehydrated
Hulk 2003 was good too love the way he goes big and then even bigger
I'm so sick of the MCU making the Hulk look like a chump. Hulk is FAR more powerful than the MCU lets him demonstrate. It makes me so damn angry 😠 😡
The Incredible Hulk with Ed Norton showcased some of the true strength and power of The Hulk.
So does that make Wanda enraged hulk stronger than infinity war/endgame hulk?
I mean- Hulk’s strength is proportionate with his rage. But smart Hulk was seen sending a rock into orbit with minimal effort. So it’s kinda hard to say
Yes i think so cuz that was Hulk at his angriest
@@Ultra_JTB That's never stated or shown in the films, only in the comics.
@Truth Consultant Then comment on a comic video. This video is about the film canon.
imagine if one day Bruce was in smart hulk form and smart hulk transformed into the hulk
getting bigger snd more muscular