I see more international expansion to get to 40: N. America: Add 4 teams San Diego and San Antonio, Mexico City, and Toronto (or maybe Vancouver). That gives a foothold into neighboring Canada and Mexico. I also do think that St Louis and Salt Lake City should deserve consideration as well. Then add 4 teams in Europe: London for sure, maybe Manchester for a local rival, and then two other teams most likely in Germany (Berlin, Frankfurt or maybe Munich). Group travel for the Euro teams in to 2-4 week home-stands while in Europe and 2-4 weeks away while in N. America. Could be done. Sample schedule for a team based in London (Assumes by then the NFL will move to an 18 week schedule: Proposed London NFL Schedule:: Week 1: Home vs.Manchester Week 2: Away vs. Berlin (3 HR flight x2) Week 3: Home vs. Frankfurt Week 4: Away vs. Manchester (1 HR flight x2) Week 5: Home vs. Berlin Week 6: Away vs. Frankfurt (3 HR flight x2) => Fly to N. America (12 HR flight etc.) play away games vs. the NFC West teams Week 7: Away vs Arizona Week 8: Away vs Los Angeles Rams (1 HR flight from AZ) Week 9: Away vs. San Francisco (1 HR flight from LA) Week 10: Away vs. Seattle (2 HR flight from SF) => Fly back to Europe (12 HRs etc.) play home games vs. AFC North teams Week 11: BYE Week 12: Home vs. Pittsburgh Week 13: Home vs. Baltimore week 14: Home vs Cleveland Week 15: Home vs. Cincinnati => Fly to N. America (8 HR flight) play 2 discretionary away games Week 16: Away vs. New York Giants Week 17: Away vs. Kansas City (4 HR flight from NY) => Fly back to Europe (10 HR flight) play 2 discretionary home games Week 18: BYE Week 19: Home vs. Miami Week 20: Home vs. Dallas Would result in only 2 long transatlantic trips over the pond, with a BYE week upon each return. * Flight times approximated ** I think if the NFL expands to an 18 game schedule, there will need to be 2 bye weeks instead of 1.
A 11 day trip including travel Friday to the following Monday for two games is probably what would happen. I don't think anyone would want two separate month long road trips. That's just too long.
@@thatissomeBS Good point. Thanks for your feedback. I was just trying to minimize the number of overseas transatlantic trips (goal was to limit it to 2 transatlantic trips per season for the European teams). 2 games over 11 days would work, and I think my sample schedule has a couple of those included (see Weeks 16-17, and Weeks 19-20), but would mean 3 transatlantic trips for the European teams. However, if I was a player I would prefer to stay in one area for 4 games, and get acclimated to the time change. I've travelled a lot overseas, Europe, S. America, Australia, etc. and it always seems to take my body 7-10 days to fully adjust to an 8-10 hour time change. Another option could be 2 transatlantic 3 game trips, which could be done in about 18-19 days each.
Wouldn't that kill the Cowboys' rivalries with the Eagles, Giants, and Redskins-Football Team-Commanders? I do see your point, however. From 1995 to 2001, the NFC "West" had teams in San Francisco, New Orleans, St. Louis, Atlanta, and Carolina (Charlotte, NC).
@@FootballLoreOfficial except for the fact that if the Argonauts owner threatened to move the Toronto Maple Leafs or the Blue Jay's..... Don't think that city would risk that for the NFL.
Not sure if the NFL really needs expansion, but if the NFL was to expand, they would have to expand to San Diego and St. Louis before anywhere else. St. Louis was about to build the Rams a new stadium and the Battlehawks are having big crowds at the Rams former home, the Edward Jones Dome. Even though St. Louis is more of a baseball town, they have passionate football fans as well. Plus, if St. Louis was to get an NFL team again should the NFL expand to St. Louis, if the St. Louis expansion team is an NFC team, they would have an instant rivalry with the Rams who left St. Louis, even though theoretically they probably wouldn't be in the same division. Also they could have a rivalry with the Bears who are not far away, and have a Missouri rivalry with the Chiefs even though they would be in different conferences.
@@christianchellis9057 Yep, the Battlehawks games are showing that people in St. Louis still have passion for football despite the way the Rams left, and the way the football Cardinals left before that
@@FootballLoreOfficial Probably originally after the Rams left, but I think if St. Louis was to get an NFL team again, the people there would be fired up
As a San Diegan, we need an NFL team, NBA team, and an NHL team. We would absolutely support them. IT'S FUCKING MENTAL THAT THE PRO SPORTS LEAGUES DON'T WANT TO MOVE HERE.
The people saying Oakland have obviously never been to Oakland. If Oakland had a giant landfill placed in the middle of the city that would actually add value to the city.
I live right next to Oakland. While politicians aren’t 100% at fault for losing 3 teams (Warriors, Raiders, and now A’s) in 5 years, they’re probably 80% at fault. They want private investment, they want the tax revenue generated by the teams, they want the jobs created, they want the notoriety, but they want it on THEIR terms without adding much or nothing to the pot. The Bay Area is one of the largest media markets in the entire country so professional leagues want a team there, but local politicians are asking for too much and are not willing to contribute much.
@@lmcc0072 But how can that be when Oakland hasn’t had a Republican Mayor since 1977? And San Francisco hasn’t had a Republican Mayor since 1964? Look how great San Francisco is doing. Look how great Oakland is doing. Democrats are the party for the people, right? People come first. I mean, just look at what (D) Governor Newsom has already done for California. And next he’s going to run for President. Whoopee! I mean, we can only hope that, with what he did as Mayor of San Francisco and what he’s doing as Governor, he’ll do the same our country. Right? P.S. I was born in Concord and lived for many years in the armpit known as Vallejo.
You’re completely out of touch with the football situation in St Louis, we absolutely are a football town and would more than welcome an expansion team, just look at our XFL attendance numbers. St Louis needs a team that OURS, not one that’s leveraged by the league to move here with an owner that doesn’t want to be here, or one that’s taken over by an owner that only wanted to be in a major market and sabotaged he team to build the conditions for a move. Yes, there’s bad blood with Godell and select owners, but Godell won’t be commish forever and the other owners just provide built-in rivalries. We love the NFL as a league
@@FootballLoreOfficial tf kinda response is that. We’re supporting minor league football above any expectations. Attendance for the home opener for the Battlehawks was just shy of 40K with fantastic atmosphere. It’s going so well in fact the dome has purchased new turf for the Battlehawks. I bet you’ve never even been to the city but call it a craphole.
st louis is objectively a craphole, you can put as much lip stick on a big as you want, still a pig. Memphis, Baltimore, St Louis, all once great American cities that have been allowed to decay. Don't like it, but you can't be a top 25 dangerous city in the world, and really nice
@@FootballLoreOfficial sounds a little more subjective bud. You get easily triggered dude lol maybe take a chill pill and delete your “craphole” channel.
You are literally a top 25 most dangerous city on the planet, how is that subjective? Statistically you guys are a crap hole. Im sorry people care much more about what I say than you, but thats a personal problem. You are defending a place that has more in common with Bogota Colombia than a nice, safe city.
Buffalo doesn’t just have Toronto, but a lot of Southern Ontario. London is the city that is the boundary. Half of the city cheers for Toronto teams and The Bills. The other half cheers for everything Detroit.
For me the NFL should buy some UFL teams and have the UFL have a super new 18 team expansion My choices are San Diego, Oakland, Columbus, Ohio, Austin, Memphis, Salt Lake City, Orlando, Louisville, St. Louis, Milwaukee, San Antonio For the NFC 🔵are Columbus, St. Louis, San Antonio, Salt Lake City, Memphis as the new NFC Central Division For the AFC 🔴 are Austin, San Diego, Oakland, Louisville, and Milwaukee relocated some AFC teams to their respective divisions The UFL should have some Canadian teams in their expansion. In the UFL expansion should be: Anaheim, Carson, San Jose, Portland, Vancouver, Edmonton, Calgary, Rio Grande Valley, Rosewell, Toronto, Albany, Orlando, Savannah, Henderson, Hershey, Raleigh, Lincoln, and Montgomery
I feel like the nfl should buy out the birmingham stallions (bc they’re the best team in the UFL) but then they should move to a different city since birmingham doesn’t have a good market for a team. I would like it if they did stay in birmingham since that is where I am from, but I don’t think its that likely
Bull crap! no facts! San Diego - Told the NFL to shove it years ago. They don't want them there. Saint Louis - Baseball town, sucks for football. San Antonio - Jerry Jones puts a big MIDDLE FINGER in your face if you think this is ever happening. He ain't having it. Toronto - Barely supports baseball. The Argos are enough up there.
I live in Portland. There is not enough appetite for football here to support an NFL team. The metro area isn't large enough, there isn't enough money, and when people here want to watch football, they go to Eugene.
There are only 8 or 9 home games a year in a NFL season. If Portland couldn't take hold on that the Blazers are going to Seattle. Of course, Portland could support a NFL team. No. I don't think the Blazers are going to Seattle. After they build the baseball stadium a NFL team will play there.
40 teams with 10 divisions seams likely. Add four in the US, and four in Europe (London, Manchester, Frankfurt, Munich). This works with 17 game schedule too, 6 division games, one NFC division, one AFC division, then 3 games against the other same conference teams who finished in the same spot (like they have been doing since the current 32 games, just using that 17th game). Expand playoffs to 16 teams, with division winners (must be at or above .500) and 3 wild cards per conference.
I don't think the NFL should expand too many teams. It would make the season longer like 20 game a season while a 18 game season is inevitable. Over all, I think maybe up to 6 more teams should do it.
1. San Antonio/Austin texas 1 team 2. San Deigo, California. 3. Portland OR, or Salt Lake City UT. 4. St.Louis, Missouri. 5. Van Cover or Toronto, Canada. 6. Mexico City or northern Mexico. 7. London or UK somewhere. 8. Somewhere in Germany. You could add a single team too all 8 divisions. 4 Afc/4 Nfc Bonus places. Hawaii. Louisville. Boise Idaho Nebraska. Lincoln/Omaha area. Midwesterners don't mind driving 3/4 hours. Easy. So count everything within 3 hours of alot of cities to go to that teams game. Most the markets I mentioned have over 2million people if you really look around I'm a chiefs fan. And see people come down from Des Moines Iowa all the time for chiefs games. You'll see the Red flag all over Iowa. Places like Nebraska would do very well
This is the one thing that I have to disagree on. as much as I love seeing the NFL go overseas and play games and countries like Germany, Spain, Brazil, and possibly Australia, they need to stay out of foreign markets. The reason why is that from a logistic standpoint, it would be nearly impossible to accommodate all foreign teams into the national schedule. On top of that would have a lot of players possibly suffering from Jetlag and time confusion.
@@PapaLobo94 ideally. Put it in the Olympics. Or start an EU and Asian league. And the champions play each other. But I don't see those 2 happening. Nfl has money. If they wanna spread out to Europe and Canada. Mexico. It could be done.
Flip Austin to San Antonio and all your pros get better and your cons get less. Plus the further you get away from JJ the more likely you have any chance at all.
Would need an owner. Mexico has about 16 or 17 billionaires. Not sure which one would want to step up. As far as a US owner which one would want a México Team?
Good Expansion choices: Toronto, Vancouver, Montreal, Portland, Austin, San Diego, Salt Lake City, St. Louis, Oklahoma City, and Savannah Honorable mention goes for North America: Boise, Murtle Beach, Charleston, Albuquerque, Memphis, Knoxville, Louisville, Lexington, Jackson, Montgomery, Virginia Beach, Richmond, Columbus, Anchorage, Monterey, and Mérida European honorable mentions: Frankfurt, Berlin, Munich, London, Birmingham, Liverpool, Barcelona, Vilnius, Kaunas, Riga, Daugavpils, Tillinn, Helsinki, Oslo, Stockholm, Gothenburg, Bergen, Warsaw, Prague, Wrocław, Kraków or Katowice, Łódź, and Madrid South America honorable mention: São Paulo, Rio de Janeiro, Buenos Aries, and Porto Alegre Other countries with honorable mentions/ US Territories: India, Japan, China, South Korea, Philippines, Taiwan, Australia, New Zealand, Jamaica Dominican Republic French Guiana ( Yes I know it’s ruled by France but you get what I mean), Puerto Rico, Trinidad and Tobago, Guyana, Ireland, and Vietnam Edit: Out of this list which ones would you like to see the most?
On the contrary, Europe did have an NFL league of its own eventually called NFL Europe. Surprised no one has mentioned it or remembered it in any of the comments and from prior videos similar to this. I remember back in the 1990's and most of the 2000's watching games televised nationally on Fox, just before cable started to grow and now streaming. It's nothing new for the NFL and if done the right way in combination of factors (economy before the Euro, etc.) it could be successful like before. Here are the teams from the old NFL Europe in some fashion from 1991-2007 with the exception of 1993 & 1994 seasons. Note that I'm not including the cities here in the U.S. and Canada (i.e. Montréal) that were involved: Frankfurt Berlin Rein (Düsseldorf) Barcelona London Scotland Amsterdam Hamburg Cologne
As far as Europe goes I feel like Dublin is being overlooked. Guiness is literally running an ad campaign looking for an NFL team, they have a large football fan base, and since so much of this video is focusing on English speaking cities its kinda a no brainer
Harvard University maintained its distance by sticking to a rugby-soccer hybrid called the “Boston Game.” In May 1874, after a match against McGill University of Montreal, the Harvard players decided they preferred McGill’s rugby-style rules to their own." _ History Channel
I believe for the NFL to get to 40 or 48 teams, they'll go with any of the following. American: * St. Louis * San Diego * Oakland * Chicago (second team) * Sacramento * San Antonio * Orlando * Norfolk * Hartford * Grand Rapids * Salt Lake City * Portland * Boise * Omaha * Memphis * Birmingham * Louisville * Oklahoma City * Hawaii * Anchorage Canada and Mexico: * Toronto * Vancouver * Montreal * Edmonton * Calgary * Mexico City Europe: * London * Manchester * Dublin * Frankfurt * Munich * Madrid
In a similar vein they should have a robust minor league system like baseball has. It would also serve to break up the racket that's become of college football.
As a European, you can forget about Europe for NFL expansion. We have a very different approach to sports. We are not looking for entertainement and consumerism but rather authenticity and shared values with the club we support. Most football clubs were created in the early 20th century and are very linked to their cities. For a lot of football fans, the club is part of their personnal identity. Don't be fooled by the sold out crowds when the NFL comes here once a year, it is purely curiosity that draws people in. Plus we already have plenty of sports that are well established (football, rugby, basketball, handball, volleyball, ice hockey) , and yet some of them struggle to get attention. That being said I could see american football national divisions growing a little, but it shouldn't be tied to NFL in any way, and it will never become a major sport here.
yeah...cause soccer leagues are totally authentic and not consumerism....you got some cognitive dissonance man. Those billionaire owners don't care about you any more than NFL owners care about us.
@@FootballLoreOfficial No I don't, I'm a fan of both sport and therefore I can see the core differences between both cultures. I also play flag football so trust me I really wish my people would be more interested in the game. But you're partly right. Football has definitely gotten worse in the past 15-20 years, precisely because of the americanization of the sport. All these billionnaire owners are slowly killing football with the help of UEFA. The superleague coup debacle a few years ago is a perfect example of this tentative of further americanization. Let me tell you, my team used to have a local owner, born and raised there, started from scratch, made it a very local oriented organization at every level (starting with the players who I assure you, cared very much about the crest, being millionaires or not), yet decently successful on the european scene. He got old and 2 years ago had to sell it to an american billionnaire who doesn't give 2 shit about the club's history and values. He plays with it like it's a fucking Monopoly game, trading average players for ten of millions. He will be the death of my club, just like another american billionnaire was the death of Man U. Now going back to american football, the crucial first step for it to grow here is too change a few rules. The sport in itself is very interesting, but a 3h+ games with 2h worth of commercial is unwatchable for 95% of us. It's too slow, not smooth enough. Shorten it to 2 half times of 30 min, get rid of the annoying timeouts, let the clock running, don't wait 5 minutes efter every turnover and we'll get somewhere. But then of course it could not be part of the NFL, it would be an independant league (back to my point).
I'm from London and have been watching the NFL since 1984. I supported the London Monarchs in the old World League (remember that?) and would love to see a team in my city. But I agree with the guy above, the sport doesn't have a big enough following in the UK to sell out a full series of home games every season.
Montreal's shot has a lot more to do with NHL markets being a good fit for the NFL and Canada needing to be a fsirly collaborative effort between multiples cities at the same time.
At 0:42 ...I am from Texas, and I have lived in both Dallas and Austin...Austin is NOT a good choice...Do you realize that San Antonio is now larger than Dallas??? And they have been wanting an NFL team for a very long time...
How can you be from Texas and be so clueless about your own state. The metro population of the Dallas-Ft Worth area is over 6 million. San antonio is over 2 million
A NFL Team in munich would be epic. Season Ticket would be mine instantly. I think also for the NFL a european division would be great. The atmosphere a european franchise would generate would be instant number one in the NFL
Europe did have an NFL league of its own eventually called NFL Europe. Surprised no one has mentioned it or remembered it in any of the comments and from prior videos similar to this. I remember back in the 1990's and most of the 2000's watching games televised nationally on Fox, just before cable started to grow and now streaming. It's nothing new for the NFL and if done the right way in combination of factors (economy before the Euro, etc.) it could be successful like before.
Two international divisions, one in Europe with a British, germany, Spanish and one dutch team. The other in the Americas, with teams in Mexico, Canada, and Brazil
Maybes a decade from now they could expand to 40 with 8 divisions of 5, one of which in Europe. 2 teams in London, Manchester, Dusseldorf, Madrid. Then add Mexico City, Toronto and a team halfway between San Antonio and Austin.
😂 your summary of London as a suitable NFL location is twisted. 1. No, I highly doubt British fans plan their year around the 3 NFL games played in October and November 🤣. 2. Everyone here who likes the NFL normally has a team they root for. You can't just manifacture fandom here like you do in the US lol. 3. There is absolutely no way an NFL specific stadium is getting built. They would play at an existing stadium, likely at one of the five already existing 60,000+ stadiums in London. Plus in the UK, a local authority would not be held over a barrel to build a stadium by a greedy owner 🤣. Football stadiums here are funded by the teams that play in them.
@@FootballLoreOfficial 🤣🤣 you can hate England all you like, the NFL is desperate to sell your sport to us though. Its never going to topple football as the most popular sport in the world though 🤣. Nice you addressed my arguments with reasoned points and facts as well, real mature 🤣.
We're the most valuable league in the world without England. You guys are literally poorer than Alabama on average. Way to blow a world empire up in 50 years. Average income in our poorest state - 50k USD, average income in ENGLAND after the currency conversion is 47k. Maybe get your empire back in check and stop being poor before you tea drinkers talk
@@FootballLoreOfficial ooh iv touched a nerve haven't I 🤣. Tell the billions who don't care about your sport or how much it earns. Its literally the most pathetic argument. People perhaps enjoy their sport, for the actual sport, not because of how much money it makes, whilst pumping ads in every 90 seconds. The NFL can't compare to how many people actually enjoy and watch football and boy is it trying to, it just can't 🤣. As to your comments about England (which I guess you are confusing with the UK) lol, you literally couldn't pay me to live in Alabama 🤣. Ok, so on average people earn more. What measure are you using for that? I'm curious where you got those stats from? I will say per capita a notoriously poor way of determining wealth. For example Ireland ranks higher than the US per capita, so by your logic, Ireland is better than the US. You are welcome. You guys are so dumb sometimes. As to the British empire, the largest empire the world has ever seen, the reason you guys speak English, no empire lasts forever, look at Rome, Alexander, Ghengis Khan, Spain, Ottomans, they all fall. Enjoy using our language though, you're welcome. As you are for Harvard, Apple pie, TV, the World Wide Web to name a few. PS I do actually like the NFL, I'm a Jets fan. I was just pointing out why your characterisation of London was skewed, like a lot of Americans, you didn't seem to understand much about the outside world.
@@FootballLoreOfficial ooh iv touched a nerve haven't I 🤣. Tell the billions who don't care about your sport or how much it earns. Its literally the most pathetic argument. People perhaps enjoy their sport, for the actual sport, not because of how much money it makes, whilst pumping ads in every 90 seconds. The NFL can't compare to how many people actually enjoy and watch football and boy is it trying to, it just can't 🤣. As to your comments about England (which I guess you are confusing with the UK) lol, you literally couldn't pay me to live in Alabama 🤣. Ok, so on average people earn more. What measure are you using for that? I'm curious where you got those stats from? I will say per capita is a notoriously poor way of determining wealth. For example Ireland ranks higher than the US per capita, so by your logic, Ireland is better than the US. You are welcome. As to the British empire, the largest empire the world has ever seen, the reason you guys speak English. Well, no empire lasts forever, look at Rome, Alexander, Ghengis Khan, Spain, Ottomans, they all fall. Enjoy using our language though, you're welcome. As you are for Harvard, Apple pie, TV, the World Wide Web and penicillin to name a few. PS I do actually like the NFL, I'm a Jets fan. I was just pointing out why your characterisation of London was skewed, like a lot of Americans, you didn't seem to understand much about the outside world.
The issue I see is, that the NFL has to expand directly with 8 teams in one go. Otherwise the unbalance in schedule and play off spots is too big. They need to add one team per division or establish two new divisions (one to the NFC, one to the AFC). As German I can see one team here, because a new stadium is needed. Currently the German games are in soccer stadiums and the soccer teams have a quite tied schedule, that will not allow a NFL team to join the stadium over a complete seasion. I would guess that would be the same in UK (London) and Spain. In Germany I just see Frankfurt and Munich as potential base, because both cities are in the ex American military zone. Plus both cities have just one big soccer club. The two biggest cities Berlin and Hamburg are in the ex british military zone and have two big soccer clubs each. Therefore I can see 2 high potential NFL teams in EU (one in UK, one in Germany). To develop another two potential NFL team spots in EU will be complicate.
In terms of international they oughtta set up teams in Toronto, Vancouver, Edmonton, and Montreal, then have those for a few years and do London, Glasgow, Manchester, and Belfast, along with Mexico City, Cancun, Veracruz, and Monterrey, then wait a few year and add in Barcelona, Galacia, Madrid, Paris, Munich, Lucerne, Brussels, Frankfurt, and Rome. Big vision
@@FootballLoreOfficial The NFL will go wherever there's money to be made. Don't think for a minute they're not noticing the support that the Battlehawks are getting.
@@muzikdude1188 Bro no beef, I just dont think theyll come to STL again. Two teams left + the lawsuit, no owner wants to touch it with a 10 foot pole. You guys deserve a team, your support for the hawks is insane, but I dont think theyre coming back
We should have a Vietnamese Football League (VFL) or a Vietnamese Football Conference (VFC) under the NFL. That way I can watch football during normal hours.
The teams I would like to add Portland ME Portland OR Austin San Antonio Birmingham St Louis Fort Worth El Paso Oklahoma City Tulsa Salt Lake City San Diego Sacramento Vancouver Winnipeg Calgary Toronto Montreal Quebec City and Columbia
I like the Hampton Roads Virginia (Virginia Beach) area as an expansion candidate (being from there). If I had several billion dollars in my pocket, I would make it a reality. But, I don't. Unless you can find me some investors.
Salt Lake City's small population isn't as much of a problem when you realize a team would gather a lot of fans from Idaho, Western Wyoming, even Montana, and parts of Northern Arizona. RSL has a very wide spread fanbase just because of the connections the surrounding areas have with Utah. The media market in SLC is larger than Jacksonville, Las Vegas, or Pittsburgh
Too expensive in Hawaii and too far away from mainland US, no professional sports team will ever move to Hawaii. The natives there are fighting off business as we speak because they are ruining the economy there for natives to live
Ohio might be where the NFL got started but there is no way the state can support OSU, the Browns, AND the Bengals. If there were only 1 team in Ohio, it should be in Columbus but there are 2 because again, it is where the NFL was started.
OKC, San Antonio, San Diego, and Salt Lake City seem like the most realistic. Or take out San Antonio, and throw in 5 European teams. Since it would be 8 divisions of 5, it would be less moving around divisions. Something like: NFC Europe (5 euro teams) NFC West (Cards, Rams, Hawks, Niners and then I guess throw in Salt Lake City) NFC South (Atlanta, Carolina, Tampa, NOLA, and I guess Miami gets the move) NFC North (Detroit, Minnesota, GB, Chicago, I guess throw in Indy or something) AFC: AFC South: Dallas, OKC, Tennessee, Houston, and I guess keep Philly to preserve a major rivalry AFC East: Washington, NYG, Jacksonville, New England, rebrand Jets as NJJ (New Jersey Jets I mean a lot of their fans are in New Jersey anyway) AFC North: Cleveland, Cincinnati, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Buffalo AFC West: LAC, Kansas City, Vegas, San Diego, Denver
Another potential (but very unlikely) option would be an Asian division. Japan is big on football and could probably put a team in countries like Taiwan, the Philippines, and South Korea as well.
on the topic of travel, Rugby used to have a comp called Super Rugby, that was basically Australia, NZ and South Africa. it last 25 odd years in that format until Covid basically forced their hand. They actuall expanded to Japan and Argentina also. Now its shrunk back to Australia, NZ (which is no different to USA and Canada, most sports leagues in Australia have an NZ team) and also Fiji. The travel schedules used to be 2-4 week road schedules, Especially for South African teams, they come and play 2 games in Australia and 2 games in NZ. Their other 4 away games were in South Africa. So in that sense if you are going to go international a division of 4 teams makes sense. But from a fan perspective, very few people in Australia and NZ would watch games in the South African timezone as it was well past midnight. The timezone isn't awful in for the USA audience in the pacific. For example monday night football is Tuesday midday here so games schedule in Australia on a sunday would likely be saturday night football in the USA. Same for the Europe games, they seem to be early morning in the USA. But yeah other than maybe Canada and Mexico, international expansion would need to be entire divsions. and how does a 9th division work? You may also find you need to schedule teams coming back from say an away internation game to have the bye or a Monday night game. Or schedule thursday night game before they leave for an international game. Its all possible especially if air travel gets quicker, but still think its further away rather than something happening sopon. I think any expansion needs to now be 2 or 4 teams.
As a European, i think it could also make sense to found a franchise in Eastern Europe if NFL should expand here. Especialy Warsaw could make sense. Of course there may not the economical benefits as in Germany or Spain, but in Poland there are not many succesful football (I refuse to call it soccer) teams. So it could be easier to establish an American Football team there. Same goes for Austria, especialy Vienna. There are also a few other places which a decent population in central and Eastern Europe where an expansion could make sense: Budapest, Prague, maybe even Bucharest or Athens.
@@FootballLoreOfficial The Chargers need to go back to San Diego because of the current fact that the chargers in Los Angeles are losing Fans by the dozen
Great video, but I just don’t understand, the USA and the NFL. Teams constantly move and relocate, due to lack of wealth. In a franchise system, where resources and revenue is shared, where every team has a chance to compete. In a country with over 25 trillion dollars, where there are states, that not only compete with one another, but with entire countries. Most countries in the world are, Capital-city-centric. Or, they have the most populated metropolitan district, absorb the wealth. With the USA, the states have more socioeconomic freedom(although with a lot of federal political supervision). Which means, the countries income, is spread across the country, arguably more than any other country. Some states have 1 team, whilst a city within in the state, gets its own team. Meaning the city has 2 teams. And often times, most people from the state, live in that city. Meaning the state technically have 2, and the city technically have 2. Even with the countries income so spread out, NFL owners will still up and leave, highly populated states, with economies that will rival half the planet. States with huge economies, are disregarded by the NFL, with a lot of them having no team at all, even when multiple states, have multiple teams. States that if they seceded from the union, they would have the population, net worth, and size, relative to that, of a 1st world country in Europe(whilst having healthcare and crime, relative to a 2nd world country, but that’s here nor there). So why would does the NFL, keep trying to bring itself to countries, who have barely any interest. That with their own sport, dominate every other sport, in the country. A game that is referred to as “American football” across the world, and is often seen as not only “The inferior version of Rugby football” and “The inferior Football” in reference to Association Football/Soccer. With a lot of the despise, due to the inherent American-centrist view, that a game only played by the US, is factually the best game on the planet. And that every other game, is terrible, weak, and unenjoyable. And that the American opinion on sport, is the only one that matters. Which is a view that is had throughout the American media, which is known throughout the world, because everyone consumes American media. Why O’ why, is it that, America seeks to own modern day world football. When they love to tell the entire world it sucks. Association football, which I will now refer to as Soccer, is naturally homegrown in the USA. With it growing rapidly, due to their own following, of international football. With growth now supported by the MLS, with most Americans watching more Liga MX and EPL games. However, the NFL keeps trying to inject itself into the rest of the world, trying to buy into different countries. Of course they would only give franchises, to countries with a good economy though. NFL is an industry planted sport within Europe. No one wants it, even if they did want it, the NFL would still want to own it and control it. Like what they’ve already done with Concacaf. What they’re starting to do with the EPL, Laliga, and Conmebol. And what they want to do with UEFA and FIFA. England made Soccer, Rugby, Cricket, and more. Yet they don’t try to own it. The USA didn’t even make Basketball, Baseball, or American Football. England made baseball, and Canada made the other two. American football, is actually a code of Gridiron football, with Canadian football being the original code. And Canada made both the codes. Like how Rugby split in England, with league and union. Why should a country be bought into a sport they don’t like, in some instances hate. When multiple states within your country, would much rather have a franchise. You would ultimately profit more from it, as the American sports markets are massive. And you would grow more competition for teams, and have a wider pool of fans, so that they would keep playing, your sport. The NFL owners, neglect their own fans because of money. Yet they forget the basic rules of business and finance, profit, fan interest, and fan loyalty, when wanting to expand, half way across the planet. Why does USA’s richest, expect nothing from their own citizens. Yet they expect everything, from everyone else.
thank you so much! I agree Billionaire Sports Owners in America have had it good for too long. Ridiculous to expect free stadiums build. I think we love football because it's ours, the same way England loves Futbol because you want to "bring it home". Certain sports just resonate with a culture, the same way the Serbians love handball.
@@FootballLoreOfficial also sorry, if it felt like I was ripping on your football. I was just saying, with not much interest in the sport, at least compared to all the other sports we have. Why would the NFL choose to come here? You get me.
@@jacobcoey9918 I think it would be more likely, if Louisville got an AFC team, that Indy would move from the South (which makes no sense) to the North and Louisville would go to the South, with Tennessee right there to be a rival. NFC, then they'd go to the NFC North probably.
Omaha would be great for the NFL. Sure we only have 487K, or so, people but you can add the 294K from Lincoln as it's an easy 45 minute drive between the cities. Omaha has a booming economy, the most millionaires per capita, and 1.9 million people state wide that would plan weekends around going to Omaha for the game. An Omaha fan base would rival the Bills-Mafia. The Oma-hoes and Oma-bros would turn out in full force. We sold out every game for the Nighthawks when they were here. #NFL Omaha needs a team!!!
We need a San Diego team called the Breakers. It can always defeat a Charger, but it's also what we call the waves in the ocean. A nice big wave logo on the helmet with a dark blue background. On the side they could sell t-shirts of a breaker box for Chargers games.
@@FootballLoreOfficial A team in Hawaii would get a lot of fans traveling there to see their team play the Hawaii team, though, just like the Raiders are now getting people flying to Vegas to watch their team play them. IIRC ticket sales at the start of the season had Steelers at Raiders as the second-most popular game, behind only Cowboys at Steelers.
Yes, 40 teams, add one 4 team division from N. America, I would suggest adding teams in San Diego, San Antonio, Toronto, and Mexico City (need some division realignment with these teams). Then have the second 4 team division from Europe, I would suggest London, Frankfurt, Berlin and Barcelona. The schedule in Europe would have to be grouped into a series of 3 or 4 week home-stands. Same for teams going from Europe to N. America. Else, the travel times going back and forth for one game at a time would be overwhelming over time.
That’s the only way expansion from 32 teams work. The current 2 Conferences of 4 - 4 team divisions is to harmonious structurally. Expanding to anything but 2/4/5 breaks that
In a multi billion dollar league, why must the city pay for the stadium?...For 8 games a season? That doesn't happen in Europe. Its called capitalism, good businesses make profits and reinvest in the business. + TV rights + merchandise 😊🇬🇧
@@FootballLoreOfficial yep I would, but no city in Europe will offer that sort of money. The football (soccer) fans would go crazy because all stadiums are privately funded, only National stadiums are funded.
If Australia had a team, people would LOVE it. Nrl fans like NFL and NFL fans have had a taste of NRL too so I think that it would make a great franchise. Specifically Brisbane or Sydney
Great video! I like your ideas on expansion cities. 8 divisions right now, 32 teams currently. Adding teams might be tough. However, use this as a way to get Dallas out of the NFC East!!! Lol.
What about this is unrealistic? The NFL has openly said "we want to expand internationally", are you just too stupid to know what that means? Here is the definition pea brain. Internationally - Adverb - in, between, or among many different nations. "companies looking to trade internationally"
@@FootballLoreOfficial Wow what an absolute pathetic comeback. Talk about providing an example of why not to subscribe. Why? Because the rest of the world doesn’t give a flying f about NFL and American football. So no, there’s going to be no international expansion.
I think if they added another team in Texas tho it would be in San Antonio. If it were in Austin then it would probably play second fiddle to the Longhorns like you mentioned. San Antonio really only has the Spurs and I feel like an nfl team wouldn’t play 2nd fiddle to the Spurs
I think San Antonio would make more sense. A ton of the small towns in that metro area like Wimberly, Gonzalez, etc. would support a San Antonio team. And it's relatively close enough to Austin.
What about Columbus, OH? Additionally why not Hamilton over Toronto. It’s close by and is sports crazy. Would it avoid issues with Toronto media market being included in Buffalo’s media territory?
The NFL would have to allow CFL owners in the NFL if they want to expand into Canada as allowing the NFL in would pretty much destroy the CFL. Also, Canada really only has 3 cities that could support and NFL team (Toronto, Montreal, and Vancouver).
Here's the way I think it should work The NFL expands into Europe and Asia and all that with a new group of 32 teams The United States and the Europe side play their own seasons We have the regular playoff games with the super bowl and then the winner of the Superbowl in both leagues play in the megabowl
You have to understand the mindset of Europeans, they are like the American version of "keeping up with the Jones". For instance, if there's a Frankfurt team and it works, you can be damn sure that London will want their own nfl team. Having a nfl team will be seen as a status symbol and then you'll see Milan wanting one, maybe Marseille wants to get into the action..etc, etc ,etc
The chargers had good reason to leave San Diego. They wanted a new stadium and at first San Diego didn't want to build one. But by the time they came around, chargers was on way out
The Utah hockey club is supposed to be only a temporary name. The second round of voting by fans has been done for a while now. The team announced yesterday that their is a clear front runner but they are currently in legal proceedings to make a name and logo trademarks happen.
I don't think that Montreal would be impossible to support an NFL team. I'm sure that they can be a part of the league eventually. I'd also like to see Major League Baseball take another shot at Montreal.
As far as San Diego goes, the Chargers did San Diego dirty even though yeah, San Diego didn't want to pay for a new Chargers stadium. If the NFL was to expand to San Diego, if that team is an AFC team and possibly in the AFC West with the Chargers, that would be an intense rivalry, especially whenever the Chargers would go back to San Diego to play the San Diego expansion team. In this instance too, the NFL would have their version of the Dodgers-Padres LA-San Diego type rivalry, a battle of SoCal. The San Diego expansion team could maybe have a rivalry with the Rams, even though they wouldn't play each other as often. Also if the NFL expands to San Diego, San Diego could be back in the Super Bowl rotation, even though I wonder if LA and Vegas kind of replaced San Diego as one of the main West Coast destinations to host Super Bowls.
Not quite sure why no one suggests Navy related names for a new San Diego team. It's the second largest Naval base in the world and is the practical home of the US Navy Pacific Fleet. It has a long history of being a Naval Base city. Think if how cool a team based around that could be! My favorite name would be Cruisers but you could also go with Destroyers, Battleships, Battery, Armada, Admirals, Fleet, etc. And then for colors I'd go with a dark blue similar to the one the Navy uses, Gray, and Gold, representing the colors of the US Navy.
I see more international expansion to get to 40: N. America: Add 4 teams San Diego and San Antonio, Mexico City, and Toronto (or maybe Vancouver). That gives a foothold into neighboring Canada and Mexico. I also do think that St Louis and Salt Lake City should deserve consideration as well. Then add 4 teams in Europe: London for sure, maybe Manchester for a local rival, and then two other teams most likely in Germany (Berlin, Frankfurt or maybe Munich). Group travel for the Euro teams in to 2-4 week home-stands while in Europe and 2-4 weeks away while in N. America. Could be done. Sample schedule for a team based in London (Assumes by then the NFL will move to an 18 week schedule:
Proposed London NFL Schedule::
Week 1: Home vs.Manchester
Week 2: Away vs. Berlin (3 HR flight x2)
Week 3: Home vs. Frankfurt
Week 4: Away vs. Manchester (1 HR flight x2)
Week 5: Home vs. Berlin
Week 6: Away vs. Frankfurt (3 HR flight x2)
=> Fly to N. America (12 HR flight etc.) play away games vs. the NFC West teams
Week 7: Away vs Arizona
Week 8: Away vs Los Angeles Rams (1 HR flight from AZ)
Week 9: Away vs. San Francisco (1 HR flight from LA)
Week 10: Away vs. Seattle (2 HR flight from SF)
=> Fly back to Europe (12 HRs etc.) play home games vs. AFC North teams
Week 11: BYE
Week 12: Home vs. Pittsburgh
Week 13: Home vs. Baltimore
week 14: Home vs Cleveland
Week 15: Home vs. Cincinnati
=> Fly to N. America (8 HR flight) play 2 discretionary away games
Week 16: Away vs. New York Giants
Week 17: Away vs. Kansas City (4 HR flight from NY)
=> Fly back to Europe (10 HR flight) play 2 discretionary home games
Week 18: BYE
Week 19: Home vs. Miami
Week 20: Home vs. Dallas
Would result in only 2 long transatlantic trips over the pond, with a BYE week upon each return.
* Flight times approximated
** I think if the NFL expands to an 18 game schedule, there will need to be 2 bye weeks instead of 1.
would be awesome! Well written
Yeah the players would buck that bullshit. Playing over season is terrible
A 11 day trip including travel Friday to the following Monday for two games is probably what would happen. I don't think anyone would want two separate month long road trips. That's just too long.
@@thatissomeBS Good point. Thanks for your feedback. I was just trying to minimize the number of overseas transatlantic trips (goal was to limit it to 2 transatlantic trips per season for the European teams). 2 games over 11 days would work, and I think my sample schedule has a couple of those included (see Weeks 16-17, and Weeks 19-20), but would mean 3 transatlantic trips for the European teams. However, if I was a player I would prefer to stay in one area for 4 games, and get acclimated to the time change. I've travelled a lot overseas, Europe, S. America, Australia, etc. and it always seems to take my body 7-10 days to fully adjust to an 8-10 hour time change. Another option could be 2 transatlantic 3 game trips, which could be done in about 18-19 days each.
they would still have to play west coast opponents but i think Paris is still more likely then Manchester
If the NFL expands, hopefully they can finally have geographical divisions
100%
Wouldn't that kill the Cowboys' rivalries with the Eagles, Giants, and Redskins-Football Team-Commanders? I do see your point, however. From 1995 to 2001, the NFC "West" had teams in San Francisco, New Orleans, St. Louis, Atlanta, and Carolina (Charlotte, NC).
@@robertlindey2538 I know...however a New Orleans / Dallas rivalry would be great if they were both in the NFC South.
San Diego absolutely needs an NFL team again.
woould be amazing
Thank You!!
Nope. It won’t happen bc SD didn’t support the Chargers.
LA needs to kick the bum ass Chargers out of their stadium and force them back into SD.
The San Diego Thunderbolts 😅
San Diego needs an NFL team again
facts
Move the chargers back no one wants them in LA anyway
@@SaintGBar22 spanos gotta sell the team first
SD is not a sports city.
@@shrim1481 thing can change for the better
Bruh Saint Louis would love to have an NFL team again. Look at how well Battlehawks do
Rams were popular
Salt Lake City. Fast growing and fills a void between SF and Denver. Football fan base with University of Utah, BYU, Utah state.
yes
49ers are in a
Smoke-High-Ice-Tall-Tan-Yeti
San Jose suburb, not San Francisco itself regardless of the
Red-Edmonton-Tower-At-Rod-Dam-Elon-Down
Yorks!
Utah, San Diego, STL and Toronto makes the most sense
I dont think that the cfl would be too happy with the nfl expanding to Toronto. They've blocked multiple leagues from having a team in Toronto before.
Something tells me the CFL doesn't have the bank account the NFL does to fight that out.
The NFL has a one-family ownership rule. You have a handful of families who could support an NFL team in Canada and none of them like football.
Don't believe NFL Players would be happy paying Canada's high taxes, they complain about NY now
@@FootballLoreOfficial except for the fact that if the Argonauts owner threatened to move the Toronto Maple Leafs or the Blue Jay's..... Don't think that city would risk that for the NFL.
Except for the fact he's just a dumb Canadian, you guys should just be states by now don't understand why we let you pretend you can handle yourself
Not sure if the NFL really needs expansion, but if the NFL was to expand, they would have to expand to San Diego and St. Louis before anywhere else. St. Louis was about to build the Rams a new stadium and the Battlehawks are having big crowds at the Rams former home, the Edward Jones Dome. Even though St. Louis is more of a baseball town, they have passionate football fans as well. Plus, if St. Louis was to get an NFL team again should the NFL expand to St. Louis, if the St. Louis expansion team is an NFC team, they would have an instant rivalry with the Rams who left St. Louis, even though theoretically they probably wouldn't be in the same division. Also they could have a rivalry with the Bears who are not far away, and have a Missouri rivalry with the Chiefs even though they would be in different conferences.
st louis has said they dont want another one
@@FootballLoreOfficialB.S. I live in StL and we very much do want one.
well, the city of Saint Louis successfully sued the NFL for a billion dollars, and has said they don't want one...so write your representatives
@@christianchellis9057 Yep, the Battlehawks games are showing that people in St. Louis still have passion for football despite the way the Rams left, and the way the football Cardinals left before that
@@FootballLoreOfficial Probably originally after the Rams left, but I think if St. Louis was to get an NFL team again, the people there would be fired up
San Diego, Oakland, Sacramento, London, Toronto, San Antonio TX, ☺️ lots of cities to expand to.
Oakland 😂😂😂
Oakland isn't getting another one
@@FootballLoreOfficialnobody wants to play in a dump city like Oakland
Mumbai, Bangalore,Chennai and Delhi could be great cities for NFL to expand
London!
Toronto NEEDS an NFL Team. As a canadian, i support.
Canadian league, is a different animal
@dandaugherty3833 Nah. Us Canadians are just as into football as you guys are. We have a smaller population however.
@@Leunatic08 I'll stick with the CFL ❤️🇨🇦🏈
From The Buffalo BILLS to The Toronto TAXES!
@joylindadichamounix 🤣😂🤣😂
As a San Diegan, we need an NFL team, NBA team, and an NHL team. We would absolutely support them. IT'S FUCKING MENTAL THAT THE PRO SPORTS LEAGUES DON'T WANT TO MOVE HERE.
The people saying Oakland have obviously never been to Oakland. If Oakland had a giant landfill placed in the middle of the city that would actually add value to the city.
HAHAHAH
I live right next to Oakland. While politicians aren’t 100% at fault for losing 3 teams (Warriors, Raiders, and now A’s) in 5 years, they’re probably 80% at fault. They want private investment, they want the tax revenue generated by the teams, they want the jobs created, they want the notoriety, but they want it on THEIR terms without adding much or nothing to the pot. The Bay Area is one of the largest media markets in the entire country so professional leagues want a team there, but local politicians are asking for too much and are not willing to contribute much.
@@lmcc0072
But how can that be when Oakland hasn’t had a Republican Mayor since 1977? And San Francisco hasn’t had a Republican Mayor since 1964? Look how great San Francisco is doing. Look how great Oakland is doing. Democrats are the party for the people, right? People come first.
I mean, just look at what (D) Governor Newsom has already done for California.
And next he’s going to run for President. Whoopee! I mean, we can only hope that, with what he did as Mayor of San Francisco and what he’s doing as Governor, he’ll do the same our country. Right?
P.S. I was born in Concord and lived for many years in the armpit known as Vallejo.
😂😂😂😂
I would rather live in Oakland than the
Salad-Hot-Ice-Tea-Hanger-Odd-Light-Exit
you live in!
Keep them in North America. San Antonio, Toronto, and Monterrey make the most sense
You’re completely out of touch with the football situation in St Louis, we absolutely are a football town and would more than welcome an expansion team, just look at our XFL attendance numbers.
St Louis needs a team that OURS, not one that’s leveraged by the league to move here with an owner that doesn’t want to be here, or one that’s taken over by an owner that only wanted to be in a major market and sabotaged he team to build the conditions for a move.
Yes, there’s bad blood with Godell and select owners, but Godell won’t be commish forever and the other owners just provide built-in rivalries. We love the NFL as a league
st louis is a craphole
@@FootballLoreOfficial tf kinda response is that. We’re supporting minor league football above any expectations. Attendance for the home opener for the Battlehawks was just shy of 40K with fantastic atmosphere. It’s going so well in fact the dome has purchased new turf for the Battlehawks. I bet you’ve never even been to the city but call it a craphole.
st louis is objectively a craphole, you can put as much lip stick on a big as you want, still a pig. Memphis, Baltimore, St Louis, all once great American cities that have been allowed to decay. Don't like it, but you can't be a top 25 dangerous city in the world, and really nice
@@FootballLoreOfficial sounds a little more subjective bud. You get easily triggered dude lol maybe take a chill pill and delete your “craphole” channel.
You are literally a top 25 most dangerous city on the planet, how is that subjective? Statistically you guys are a crap hole. Im sorry people care much more about what I say than you, but thats a personal problem. You are defending a place that has more in common with Bogota Colombia than a nice, safe city.
Buffalo doesn’t just have Toronto, but a lot of Southern Ontario. London is the city that is the boundary. Half of the city cheers for Toronto teams and The Bills. The other half cheers for everything Detroit.
ah interesting
I assume you mean [Fake] London, OT and not [Real] London, the capital of the UK.
@@eddiejc1 London, OT is the only London that matters.
@@eddiejc1 Its London, ON. wtf is OT??? doesnt even know the right abbreviation for Ontario. sad
For me the NFL should buy some UFL teams and have the UFL have a super new 18 team expansion
My choices are San Diego, Oakland, Columbus, Ohio, Austin, Memphis, Salt Lake City, Orlando, Louisville, St. Louis, Milwaukee, San Antonio
For the NFC 🔵are Columbus, St. Louis, San Antonio, Salt Lake City, Memphis as the new NFC Central Division
For the AFC 🔴 are Austin, San Diego, Oakland, Louisville, and Milwaukee relocated some AFC teams to their respective divisions
The UFL should have some Canadian teams in their expansion. In the UFL expansion should be: Anaheim, Carson, San Jose, Portland, Vancouver, Edmonton, Calgary, Rio Grande Valley, Rosewell, Toronto, Albany, Orlando, Savannah, Henderson, Hershey, Raleigh, Lincoln, and Montgomery
Very interesting, and btw it is UFL now.
@TheRealVenom448 Right, I've re-edited it
I don't columbus would get one, but most of these otherones are solid
I feel like the nfl should buy out the birmingham stallions (bc they’re the best team in the UFL) but then they should move to a different city since birmingham doesn’t have a good market for a team. I would like it if they did stay in birmingham since that is where I am from, but I don’t think its that likely
@@datapblake_12 I agree for the St Louis Battlehawks as the TRUE expanded team to the NFL instead of the Rams & Cardinals relocated there
San Diego, St. Louis, San Antonio and Toronto.
facts
Bull crap! no facts!
San Diego - Told the NFL to shove it years ago. They don't want them there.
Saint Louis - Baseball town, sucks for football.
San Antonio - Jerry Jones puts a big MIDDLE FINGER in your face if you think this is ever happening. He ain't having it.
Toronto - Barely supports baseball. The Argos are enough up there.
I live in Portland. There is not enough appetite for football here to support an NFL team. The metro area isn't large enough, there isn't enough money, and when people here want to watch football, they go to Eugene.
damn
NFL could succeed in Eugene. The huge majority of the population in Oregon live within 100 miles and Autzen stadium is ready to go.
There are only 8 or 9 home games a year in a NFL season. If Portland couldn't take hold on that the Blazers are going to Seattle. Of course, Portland could support a NFL team. No. I don't think the Blazers are going to Seattle. After they build the baseball stadium a NFL team will play there.
40 teams with 10 divisions seams likely. Add four in the US, and four in Europe (London, Manchester, Frankfurt, Munich). This works with 17 game schedule too, 6 division games, one NFC division, one AFC division, then 3 games against the other same conference teams who finished in the same spot (like they have been doing since the current 32 games, just using that 17th game). Expand playoffs to 16 teams, with division winners (must be at or above .500) and 3 wild cards per conference.
Not overseas .
It's a logistics nightmare .
I don't think the NFL should expand too many teams. It would make the season longer like 20 game a season while a 18 game season is inevitable. Over all, I think maybe up to 6 more teams should do it.
yes
8 teams, 4 per conference would be balanced.
1. San Antonio/Austin texas 1 team
2. San Deigo, California.
3. Portland OR, or Salt Lake City UT.
4. St.Louis, Missouri.
5. Van Cover or Toronto, Canada.
6. Mexico City or northern Mexico.
7. London or UK somewhere.
8. Somewhere in Germany.
You could add a single team too all 8 divisions. 4 Afc/4 Nfc
Bonus places.
Hawaii.
Louisville.
Boise Idaho
Nebraska. Lincoln/Omaha area.
Midwesterners don't mind driving 3/4 hours. Easy.
So count everything within 3 hours of alot of cities to go to that teams game.
Most the markets I mentioned have over 2million people if you really look around
I'm a chiefs fan. And see people come down from Des Moines Iowa all the time for chiefs games.
You'll see the Red flag all over Iowa.
Places like Nebraska would do very well
would be great
This is the one thing that I have to disagree on. as much as I love seeing the NFL go overseas and play games and countries like Germany, Spain, Brazil, and possibly Australia, they need to stay out of foreign markets. The reason why is that from a logistic standpoint, it would be nearly impossible to accommodate all foreign teams into the national schedule. On top of that would have a lot of players possibly suffering from Jetlag and time confusion.
@@PapaLobo94 ideally.
Put it in the Olympics.
Or start an EU and Asian league.
And the champions play each other.
But I don't see those 2 happening.
Nfl has money.
If they wanna spread out to Europe and Canada. Mexico.
It could be done.
Salt Lake City wants two teams to match their home life
LOL
hahahaha
No alcohol at games
People in Austin backs up all their teams. Their support for their home team will be 💯.
hopefully!
Dallas should get an AFC team LONG before Austin or San Antonio should be considered for a team.
@@robertwiles8106 Jerry would never let that happen
@@4realGTFOH Jerry has AT MOST 5 years left.
Flip Austin to San Antonio and all your pros get better and your cons get less. Plus the further you get away from JJ the more likely you have any chance at all.
Having a team in Mexico City would be HUGE
the altitude is too high when they tried to play there in the past, it would have to be Monterrey
Would need an owner. Mexico has about 16 or 17 billionaires. Not sure which one would want to step up. As far as a US owner which one would want a México Team?
Somewhere in Alabama may be Lincoln, Nebraska, San Antonio, Salt Lake City, Toronto, Mexico City,
Good Expansion choices: Toronto, Vancouver, Montreal, Portland, Austin, San Diego, Salt Lake City, St. Louis, Oklahoma City, and Savannah
Honorable mention goes for North America:
Boise, Murtle Beach, Charleston, Albuquerque, Memphis, Knoxville, Louisville, Lexington, Jackson, Montgomery, Virginia Beach, Richmond, Columbus, Anchorage, Monterey, and Mérida
European honorable mentions: Frankfurt, Berlin, Munich, London, Birmingham, Liverpool, Barcelona, Vilnius, Kaunas, Riga, Daugavpils, Tillinn, Helsinki, Oslo, Stockholm, Gothenburg, Bergen, Warsaw, Prague, Wrocław, Kraków or Katowice, Łódź, and Madrid
South America honorable mention:
São Paulo, Rio de Janeiro, Buenos Aries, and Porto Alegre
Other countries with honorable mentions/ US Territories:
India, Japan, China, South Korea, Philippines, Taiwan, Australia, New Zealand, Jamaica Dominican Republic French Guiana ( Yes I know it’s ruled by France but you get what I mean), Puerto Rico, Trinidad and Tobago, Guyana, Ireland, and Vietnam
Edit: Out of this list which ones would you like to see the most?
Zero over seas, an most likely zero South America. That’s too far to fly for teams on a weekly basis.
Honolulu belongs somewhere on your list. Maybe even as an honorable mention.
On the contrary, Europe did have an NFL league of its own eventually called NFL Europe. Surprised no one has mentioned it or remembered it in any of the comments and from prior videos similar to this. I remember back in the 1990's and most of the 2000's watching games televised nationally on Fox, just before cable started to grow and now streaming. It's nothing new for the NFL and if done the right way in combination of factors (economy before the Euro, etc.) it could be successful like before.
Here are the teams from the old NFL Europe in some fashion from 1991-2007 with the exception of 1993 & 1994 seasons. Note that I'm not including the cities here in the U.S. and Canada (i.e. Montréal) that were involved:
Frankfurt
Berlin
Rein (Düsseldorf)
Barcelona
London
Scotland
Amsterdam
Hamburg
Cologne
As far as Europe goes I feel like Dublin is being overlooked. Guiness is literally running an ad campaign looking for an NFL team, they have a large football fan base, and since so much of this video is focusing on English speaking cities its kinda a no brainer
could work for sure
Harvard University maintained its distance by sticking to a rugby-soccer hybrid called the “Boston Game.” In May 1874, after a match against McGill University of Montreal, the Harvard players decided they preferred McGill’s rugby-style rules to their own." _ History Channel
cool France still sucks
@@FootballLoreOfficial wow are you actually stupid or do you really think Montreal is France
I believe for the NFL to get to 40 or 48 teams, they'll go with any of the following.
American:
* St. Louis
* San Diego
* Oakland
* Chicago (second team)
* Sacramento
* San Antonio
* Orlando
* Norfolk
* Hartford
* Grand Rapids
* Salt Lake City
* Portland
* Boise
* Omaha
* Memphis
* Birmingham
* Louisville
* Oklahoma City
* Hawaii
* Anchorage
Canada and Mexico:
* Toronto
* Vancouver
* Montreal
* Edmonton
* Calgary
* Mexico City
Europe:
* London
* Manchester
* Dublin
* Frankfurt
* Munich
* Madrid
st louis is never coming back
I don't think the NFL should expand. The XFL/UFL should expand to some of these cities instead
theyve said theyre going to
In a similar vein they should have a robust minor league system like baseball has. It would also serve to break up the racket that's become of college football.
@@FootballLoreOfficialI’ve heard that they’re going to try and bring back the rest of the XFL & USFL teams back.
San antonio or south austin.
Build a stadium about 30 minutes south of austin to attract people from san Antonio as well.
yes
As a European, you can forget about Europe for NFL expansion. We have a very different approach to sports. We are not looking for entertainement and consumerism but rather authenticity and shared values with the club we support. Most football clubs were created in the early 20th century and are very linked to their cities. For a lot of football fans, the club is part of their personnal identity.
Don't be fooled by the sold out crowds when the NFL comes here once a year, it is purely curiosity that draws people in.
Plus we already have plenty of sports that are well established (football, rugby, basketball, handball, volleyball, ice hockey) , and yet some of them struggle to get attention.
That being said I could see american football national divisions growing a little, but it shouldn't be tied to NFL in any way, and it will never become a major sport here.
yeah...cause soccer leagues are totally authentic and not consumerism....you got some cognitive dissonance man. Those billionaire owners don't care about you any more than NFL owners care about us.
@@FootballLoreOfficial
No I don't, I'm a fan of both sport and therefore I can see the core differences between both cultures. I also play flag football so trust me I really wish my people would be more interested in the game.
But you're partly right. Football has definitely gotten worse in the past 15-20 years, precisely because of the americanization of the sport. All these billionnaire owners are slowly killing football with the help of UEFA. The superleague coup debacle a few years ago is a perfect example of this tentative of further americanization.
Let me tell you, my team used to have a local owner, born and raised there, started from scratch, made it a very local oriented organization at every level (starting with the players who I assure you, cared very much about the crest, being millionaires or not), yet decently successful on the european scene. He got old and 2 years ago had to sell it to an american billionnaire who doesn't give 2 shit about the club's history and values. He plays with it like it's a fucking Monopoly game, trading average players for ten of millions. He will be the death of my club, just like another american billionnaire was the death of Man U.
Now going back to american football, the crucial first step for it to grow here is too change a few rules. The sport in itself is very interesting, but a 3h+ games with 2h worth of commercial is unwatchable for 95% of us. It's too slow, not smooth enough. Shorten it to 2 half times of 30 min, get rid of the annoying timeouts, let the clock running, don't wait 5 minutes efter every turnover and we'll get somewhere. But then of course it could not be part of the NFL, it would be an independant league (back to my point).
@@FootballLoreOfficial what about the re-creation of the Cleveland Browns after the supporters uproar ? 😏
I'm from London and have been watching the NFL since 1984. I supported the London Monarchs in the old World League (remember that?) and would love to see a team in my city. But I agree with the guy above, the sport doesn't have a big enough following in the UK to sell out a full series of home games every season.
@@FootballLoreOfficial Calm down dude. He didn't insult you, he just shared his opinion.
Montreal's shot has a lot more to do with NHL markets being a good fit for the NFL and Canada needing to be a fsirly collaborative effort between multiples cities at the same time.
At 0:42 ...I am from Texas, and I have lived in both Dallas and Austin...Austin is NOT a good choice...Do you realize that San Antonio is now larger than Dallas??? And they have been wanting an NFL team for a very long time...
San Antonio can eat shit
How can you be from Texas and be so clueless about your own state. The metro population of the Dallas-Ft Worth area is over 6 million. San antonio is over 2 million
@@FootballLoreOfficialfax fuck San Antonio
@@FootballLoreOfficialfuck Austin.
@@FootballLoreOfficial i’m from San Antonio… Fuck you asshole
A NFL Team in munich would be epic. Season Ticket would be mine instantly.
I think also for the NFL a european division would be great. The atmosphere a european franchise would generate would be instant number one in the NFL
could be awesome
Europe did have an NFL league of its own eventually called NFL Europe. Surprised no one has mentioned it or remembered it in any of the comments and from prior videos similar to this. I remember back in the 1990's and most of the 2000's watching games televised nationally on Fox, just before cable started to grow and now streaming. It's nothing new for the NFL and if done the right way in combination of factors (economy before the Euro, etc.) it could be successful like before.
St Louis and San Antonio.
St. Louis absolutely, as for San Antonio, not gonna happen until Jerry Jones is dead and cold in his grave.
@@redbeard124 He is old so that aint going to be much longer. He seemed to have no problem with a team in Houston.
@@dvferyance true but there was always a professional football team in Houston even before Jerry owned the Cowboys
@@marqueswilliams345 but they left I would think Jerry Jones would want Texas to be an all cowboys state.
@@dvferyance true but the gotta remember the AFL had a team in Houston and Texas is to big of a state to only have one team
Two international divisions, one in Europe with a British, germany, Spanish and one dutch team. The other in the Americas, with teams in Mexico, Canada, and Brazil
could be awesome
Utah, Montana/Dakotas could have a combined team, Alabama/Mississippi
facts
You mean like Jacksonville and London?
Maybes a decade from now they could expand to 40 with 8 divisions of 5, one of which in Europe. 2 teams in London, Manchester, Dusseldorf, Madrid. Then add Mexico City, Toronto and a team halfway between San Antonio and Austin.
😂 your summary of London as a suitable NFL location is twisted.
1. No, I highly doubt British fans plan their year around the 3 NFL games played in October and November 🤣.
2. Everyone here who likes the NFL normally has a team they root for. You can't just manifacture fandom here like you do in the US lol.
3. There is absolutely no way an NFL specific stadium is getting built. They would play at an existing stadium, likely at one of the five already existing 60,000+ stadiums in London. Plus in the UK, a local authority would not be held over a barrel to build a stadium by a greedy owner 🤣. Football stadiums here are funded by the teams that play in them.
England sucks but unforunately 50k of you love our sport, I wish you guys werent willing to give us money. I hate england
@@FootballLoreOfficial 🤣🤣 you can hate England all you like, the NFL is desperate to sell your sport to us though. Its never going to topple football as the most popular sport in the world though 🤣.
Nice you addressed my arguments with reasoned points and facts as well, real mature 🤣.
We're the most valuable league in the world without England. You guys are literally poorer than Alabama on average. Way to blow a world empire up in 50 years. Average income in our poorest state - 50k USD, average income in ENGLAND after the currency conversion is 47k. Maybe get your empire back in check and stop being poor before you tea drinkers talk
@@FootballLoreOfficial ooh iv touched a nerve haven't I 🤣.
Tell the billions who don't care about your sport or how much it earns. Its literally the most pathetic argument. People perhaps enjoy their sport, for the actual sport, not because of how much money it makes, whilst pumping ads in every 90 seconds. The NFL can't compare to how many people actually enjoy and watch football and boy is it trying to, it just can't 🤣.
As to your comments about England (which I guess you are confusing with the UK) lol, you literally couldn't pay me to live in Alabama 🤣. Ok, so on average people earn more.
What measure are you using for that? I'm curious where you got those stats from?
I will say per capita a notoriously poor way of determining wealth. For example Ireland ranks higher than the US per capita, so by your logic, Ireland is better than the US. You are welcome.
You guys are so dumb sometimes.
As to the British empire, the largest empire the world has ever seen, the reason you guys speak English, no empire lasts forever, look at Rome, Alexander, Ghengis Khan, Spain, Ottomans, they all fall. Enjoy using our language though, you're welcome. As you are for Harvard, Apple pie, TV, the World Wide Web to name a few.
PS I do actually like the NFL, I'm a Jets fan. I was just pointing out why your characterisation of London was skewed, like a lot of Americans, you didn't seem to understand much about the outside world.
@@FootballLoreOfficial ooh iv touched a nerve haven't I 🤣.
Tell the billions who don't care about your sport or how much it earns. Its literally the most pathetic argument. People perhaps enjoy their sport, for the actual sport, not because of how much money it makes, whilst pumping ads in every 90 seconds. The NFL can't compare to how many people actually enjoy and watch football and boy is it trying to, it just can't 🤣.
As to your comments about England (which I guess you are confusing with the UK) lol, you literally couldn't pay me to live in Alabama 🤣. Ok, so on average people earn more.
What measure are you using for that? I'm curious where you got those stats from?
I will say per capita is a notoriously poor way of determining wealth. For example Ireland ranks higher than the US per capita, so by your logic, Ireland is better than the US. You are welcome.
As to the British empire, the largest empire the world has ever seen, the reason you guys speak English. Well, no empire lasts forever, look at Rome, Alexander, Ghengis Khan, Spain, Ottomans, they all fall. Enjoy using our language though, you're welcome. As you are for Harvard, Apple pie, TV, the World Wide Web and penicillin to name a few.
PS I do actually like the NFL, I'm a Jets fan. I was just pointing out why your characterisation of London was skewed, like a lot of Americans, you didn't seem to understand much about the outside world.
The issue I see is, that the NFL has to expand directly with 8 teams in one go. Otherwise the unbalance in schedule and play off spots is too big. They need to add one team per division or establish two new divisions (one to the NFC, one to the AFC). As German I can see one team here, because a new stadium is needed. Currently the German games are in soccer stadiums and the soccer teams have a quite tied schedule, that will not allow a NFL team to join the stadium over a complete seasion. I would guess that would be the same in UK (London) and Spain.
In Germany I just see Frankfurt and Munich as potential base, because both cities are in the ex American military zone. Plus both cities have just one big soccer club. The two biggest cities Berlin and Hamburg are in the ex british military zone and have two big soccer clubs each.
Therefore I can see 2 high potential NFL teams in EU (one in UK, one in Germany). To develop another two potential NFL team spots in EU will be complicate.
could be awesome
In terms of international they oughtta set up teams in Toronto, Vancouver, Edmonton, and Montreal, then have those for a few years and do London, Glasgow, Manchester, and Belfast, along with Mexico City, Cancun, Veracruz, and Monterrey, then wait a few year and add in Barcelona, Galacia, Madrid, Paris, Munich, Lucerne, Brussels, Frankfurt, and Rome. Big vision
They have said its their long term goal, but youre right
Why would anyone want that jet lagg every single week?
What about Mumbai an Asian team is needed !
Great video
Thanks for the visit
Oakland, San Diego and St. Louis
Why in the world would they put a team in Oakland?
Oakland is done
Oakland is bad and terrible
The market fully belongs to San Francisco again. They would not allow another team in their territory again
@@ronbrown7941 that isn't true at all. They have no rights to the East Bay
They should open to these cities for now:
Salt Lake City
San Diego
Oklahoma City
Omaha
Calgary
Also St. Louis does want football. The St. Louis Battlehawks of the UFL attract an attendance around 30k each home game.
You guys LITERALLY sued the NFL for a billion dollars
@@FootballLoreOfficialand they deserved every penny of it.
okay whatever, but the league isn't coming back now LMAO. That's all I'm trying to say. They will avoid the craphole known as st louis
@@FootballLoreOfficial The NFL will go wherever there's money to be made. Don't think for a minute they're not noticing the support that the Battlehawks are getting.
@@muzikdude1188 Bro no beef, I just dont think theyll come to STL again. Two teams left + the lawsuit, no owner wants to touch it with a 10 foot pole. You guys deserve a team, your support for the hawks is insane, but I dont think theyre coming back
We should have a Vietnamese Football League (VFL) or a Vietnamese Football Conference (VFC) under the NFL. That way I can watch football during normal hours.
LOL, Hanoi Dragons lets make it happen
@@FootballLoreOfficial I know what you did there. You are sharp. Please VFC or VFL! And soon!
Portland, San Antonio, Birmingham, St. Louis, Virginia Beach (Hampton Roads), Oklahoma City, Salt Lake City, and Toronto.
would all be great
The teams I would like to add Portland ME Portland OR Austin San Antonio Birmingham St Louis Fort Worth El Paso Oklahoma City Tulsa Salt Lake City San Diego Sacramento Vancouver Winnipeg Calgary Toronto Montreal Quebec City and Columbia
Toronto for sure
Toronto, Calgary, St. Louis for sure and maybe Salt Lake City, OKC, or possibly Mexico City
Utah, St. Louis, Louisville, Puerto Rico, Hawaii, Euro Division: London, Berlin, Paris, Madrid
PR would be cool
Outside of the Jailblazers the city of Portland would have to be willing to support an NFL franchise 🏈
I like the Hampton Roads Virginia (Virginia Beach) area as an expansion candidate (being from there). If I had several billion dollars in my pocket, I would make it a reality. But, I don't. Unless you can find me some investors.
As big as Virginia with somany cities it's wild they no pro teams.
its wild they have no teams
Salt Lake City's small population isn't as much of a problem when you realize a team would gather a lot of fans from Idaho, Western Wyoming, even Montana, and parts of Northern Arizona. RSL has a very wide spread fanbase just because of the connections the surrounding areas have with Utah. The media market in SLC is larger than Jacksonville, Las Vegas, or Pittsburgh
dam
Honolulu Could Be A Great Choice
think its a bit too isolated unless they did Japan/Uastralia too
Too expensive in Hawaii and too far away from mainland US, no professional sports team will ever move to Hawaii. The natives there are fighting off business as we speak because they are ruining the economy there for natives to live
St Louis, San Antonio, San Diego, Toronto, Salt Lake City, Calgary, Portland and Montreal are good for expansion teams
could be all great
Columbus, San Antonio, Salg Lake City and Portland.
I think columbus gets passed only because Cinci, Cleveland, dont want to split the state more
@@FootballLoreOfficialI just don't see them being able to compete with the Buckeyes. Ohio State runs that town.
Columbus??? Ohio isn’t big enough for a 3rd team and Ohio St would have issues with sharing their market
Ohio might be where the NFL got started but there is no way the state can support OSU, the Browns, AND the Bengals. If there were only 1 team in Ohio, it should be in Columbus but there are 2 because again, it is where the NFL was started.
Portlandddd
Instead of just an Austin team I think it would work better to be some kind of Austin/San Antonio team. The stadium can be in between the two cities.
New Braunfel Nickelbackers
St.Louis would be good city for a NFL team
wont happen after that lawsuit
StL already had two NFL teams, and couldn't hold on to either the Rams or the Cardinals.
No third chance.
The Arizona cardinals should move back to st Louis
@@58twright yes indeed
The San Diego Thunderstorms 😅
OKC it would be a red river showdown like in college.
would be awesome
OKC vs Dallas
OKC, San Antonio, San Diego, and Salt Lake City seem like the most realistic. Or take out San Antonio, and throw in 5 European teams. Since it would be 8 divisions of 5, it would be less moving around divisions.
Something like:
NFC Europe (5 euro teams)
NFC West (Cards, Rams, Hawks, Niners and then I guess throw in Salt Lake City)
NFC South (Atlanta, Carolina, Tampa, NOLA, and I guess Miami gets the move)
NFC North (Detroit, Minnesota, GB, Chicago, I guess throw in Indy or something)
AFC:
AFC South: Dallas, OKC, Tennessee, Houston, and I guess keep Philly to preserve a major rivalry
AFC East: Washington, NYG, Jacksonville, New England, rebrand Jets as NJJ (New Jersey Jets I mean a lot of their fans are in New Jersey anyway)
AFC North: Cleveland, Cincinnati, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
AFC West: LAC, Kansas City, Vegas, San Diego, Denver
Another potential (but very unlikely) option would be an Asian division. Japan is big on football and could probably put a team in countries like Taiwan, the Philippines, and South Korea as well.
Toyko Samurai would go so hard
San Antonio and Mexico city
yes
Or Monterrey nuevo león would be better
on the topic of travel, Rugby used to have a comp called Super Rugby, that was basically Australia, NZ and South Africa. it last 25 odd years in that format until Covid basically forced their hand. They actuall expanded to Japan and Argentina also. Now its shrunk back to Australia, NZ (which is no different to USA and Canada, most sports leagues in Australia have an NZ team) and also Fiji. The travel schedules used to be 2-4 week road schedules, Especially for South African teams, they come and play 2 games in Australia and 2 games in NZ. Their other 4 away games were in South Africa. So in that sense if you are going to go international a division of 4 teams makes sense. But from a fan perspective, very few people in Australia and NZ would watch games in the South African timezone as it was well past midnight. The timezone isn't awful in for the USA audience in the pacific. For example monday night football is Tuesday midday here so games schedule in Australia on a sunday would likely be saturday night football in the USA. Same for the Europe games, they seem to be early morning in the USA. But yeah other than maybe Canada and Mexico, international expansion would need to be entire divsions. and how does a 9th division work? You may also find you need to schedule teams coming back from say an away internation game to have the bye or a Monday night game. Or schedule thursday night game before they leave for an international game. Its all possible especially if air travel gets quicker, but still think its further away rather than something happening sopon. I think any expansion needs to now be 2 or 4 teams.
Jacksonville should be moved somewhere else😂
Lawrence needs to be traded to the falcons or bengals
The owner wants to move to London
Only outta towners say that bs
@@FootballLoreOfficial They are not going anywhere now with the new stadium deal.
As should Carolina.
As a European, i think it could also make sense to found a franchise in Eastern Europe if NFL should expand here. Especialy Warsaw could make sense. Of course there may not the economical benefits as in Germany or Spain, but in Poland there are not many succesful football (I refuse to call it soccer) teams. So it could be easier to establish an American Football team there. Same goes for Austria, especialy Vienna. There are also a few other places which a decent population in central and Eastern Europe where an expansion could make sense: Budapest, Prague, maybe even Bucharest or Athens.
could be cool
No more expansion!!! Get the chargers back in SD!
would be awesome
NFL needs to expand to San Diego because that city needs a team again and if it’s not gonna be the Chargers it better be a team that’s better
could be awesome
@@FootballLoreOfficial The Chargers need to go back to San Diego because of the current fact that the chargers in Los Angeles are losing Fans by the dozen
NFL needs to take another look at St. Louis. Even UFL Battlehawks brought in big crowds during their games.
San Diego, Orlando, Portland, Salt Lake CIty
would be awesome
Great video, but I just don’t understand, the USA and the NFL. Teams constantly move and relocate, due to lack of wealth. In a franchise system, where resources and revenue is shared, where every team has a chance to compete. In a country with over 25 trillion dollars, where there are states, that not only compete with one another, but with entire countries. Most countries in the world are, Capital-city-centric. Or, they have the most populated metropolitan district, absorb the wealth. With the USA, the states have more socioeconomic freedom(although with a lot of federal political supervision). Which means, the countries income, is spread across the country, arguably more than any other country. Some states have 1 team, whilst a city within in the state, gets its own team. Meaning the city has 2 teams. And often times, most people from the state, live in that city. Meaning the state technically have 2, and the city technically have 2. Even with the countries income so spread out, NFL owners will still up and leave, highly populated states, with economies that will rival half the planet. States with huge economies, are disregarded by the NFL, with a lot of them having no team at all, even when multiple states, have multiple teams. States that if they seceded from the union, they would have the population, net worth, and size, relative to that, of a 1st world country in Europe(whilst having healthcare and crime, relative to a 2nd world country, but that’s here nor there). So why would does the NFL, keep trying to bring itself to countries, who have barely any interest. That with their own sport, dominate every other sport, in the country. A game that is referred to as “American football” across the world, and is often seen as not only “The inferior version of Rugby football” and “The inferior Football” in reference to Association Football/Soccer. With a lot of the despise, due to the inherent American-centrist view, that a game only played by the US, is factually the best game on the planet. And that every other game, is terrible, weak, and unenjoyable. And that the American opinion on sport, is the only one that matters. Which is a view that is had throughout the American media, which is known throughout the world, because everyone consumes American media. Why O’ why, is it that, America seeks to own modern day world football. When they love to tell the entire world it sucks. Association football, which I will now refer to as Soccer, is naturally homegrown in the USA. With it growing rapidly, due to their own following, of international football. With growth now supported by the MLS, with most Americans watching more Liga MX and EPL games. However, the NFL keeps trying to inject itself into the rest of the world, trying to buy into different countries. Of course they would only give franchises, to countries with a good economy though. NFL is an industry planted sport within Europe. No one wants it, even if they did want it, the NFL would still want to own it and control it. Like what they’ve already done with Concacaf. What they’re starting to do with the EPL, Laliga, and Conmebol. And what they want to do with UEFA and FIFA. England made Soccer, Rugby, Cricket, and more. Yet they don’t try to own it. The USA didn’t even make Basketball, Baseball, or American Football. England made baseball, and Canada made the other two. American football, is actually a code of Gridiron football, with Canadian football being the original code. And Canada made both the codes. Like how Rugby split in England, with league and union. Why should a country be bought into a sport they don’t like, in some instances hate. When multiple states within your country, would much rather have a franchise. You would ultimately profit more from it, as the American sports markets are massive. And you would grow more competition for teams, and have a wider pool of fans, so that they would keep playing, your sport. The NFL owners, neglect their own fans because of money. Yet they forget the basic rules of business and finance, profit, fan interest, and fan loyalty, when wanting to expand, half way across the planet. Why does USA’s richest, expect nothing from their own citizens. Yet they expect everything, from everyone else.
thank you so much! I agree Billionaire Sports Owners in America have had it good for too long. Ridiculous to expect free stadiums build. I think we love football because it's ours, the same way England loves Futbol because you want to "bring it home". Certain sports just resonate with a culture, the same way the Serbians love handball.
@@FootballLoreOfficial cheers for the response lad. You brofs are all right!👍🏻
@@FootballLoreOfficial also sorry, if it felt like I was ripping on your football. I was just saying, with not much interest in the sport, at least compared to all the other sports we have. Why would the NFL choose to come here? You get me.
I live in the Louisville area and would cheer on a home town NFL team (as long as it isn’t a division rival to my Steelers
could be a great spot for it
It more than likely would be, that’s the closest geographical division.
No, A city team should have a team that would have undivided support.
@@jacobcoey9918 I think it would be more likely, if Louisville got an AFC team, that Indy would move from the South (which makes no sense) to the North and Louisville would go to the South, with Tennessee right there to be a rival. NFC, then they'd go to the NFC North probably.
Omaha would be great for the NFL. Sure we only have 487K, or so, people but you can add the 294K from Lincoln as it's an easy 45 minute drive between the cities. Omaha has a booming economy, the most millionaires per capita, and 1.9 million people state wide that would plan weekends around going to Omaha for the game. An Omaha fan base would rival the Bills-Mafia. The Oma-hoes and Oma-bros would turn out in full force. We sold out every game for the Nighthawks when they were here. #NFL Omaha needs a team!!!
Mumbai should get a NFL team
If they did Japan, Australia, India, and maybe another team I could see it.
We need a San Diego team called the Breakers. It can always defeat a Charger, but it's also what we call the waves in the ocean. A nice big wave logo on the helmet with a dark blue background. On the side they could sell t-shirts of a breaker box for Chargers games.
Wonder if they could give Hawaii and Alaska teams
Don't think Alaska has the population, and Hawaii has the same travel restriction issues as Europe in terms of cost
@@FootballLoreOfficial A team in Hawaii would get a lot of fans traveling there to see their team play the Hawaii team, though, just like the Raiders are now getting people flying to Vegas to watch their team play them. IIRC ticket sales at the start of the season had Steelers at Raiders as the second-most popular game, behind only Cowboys at Steelers.
I can see Salt Lake getting a franchise. They are supposedly 1 of 2 next on the list for a MLB location. They recently grabbed Phoenix's hockey team.
rich city with a will to spend
Should have 40 teams
Its coming
Yes, 40 teams, add one 4 team division from N. America, I would suggest adding teams in San Diego, San Antonio, Toronto, and Mexico City (need some division realignment with these teams). Then have the second 4 team division from Europe, I would suggest London, Frankfurt, Berlin and Barcelona. The schedule in Europe would have to be grouped into a series of 3 or 4 week home-stands. Same for teams going from Europe to N. America. Else, the travel times going back and forth for one game at a time would be overwhelming over time.
That’s the only way expansion from 32 teams work. The current 2 Conferences of 4 - 4 team divisions is to harmonious structurally. Expanding to anything but 2/4/5 breaks that
An NFL team in Oklahoma City that will be perfect with the NBA Oklahoma City Thunder team on rise as on of the top team today
yep
The NFL is so successful because the players don’t have all the power unlike the NBA & MLB
yep
Dude Tulsa or OKC would kill with a football team. We already have OU and OSU, plus it would take fans away from the cowboys 🗣️
In a multi billion dollar league, why must the city pay for the stadium?...For 8 games a season? That doesn't happen in Europe. Its called capitalism, good businesses make profits and reinvest in the business. + TV rights + merchandise 😊🇬🇧
Sidney, if you were the owner of an in demand product and someone offered you a billion dollars to build a stadium you wouldnt take it???
@@FootballLoreOfficial yep I would, but no city in Europe will offer that sort of money. The football (soccer) fans would go crazy because all stadiums are privately funded, only National stadiums are funded.
If Australia had a team, people would LOVE it. Nrl fans like NFL and NFL fans have had a taste of NRL too so I think that it would make a great franchise. Specifically Brisbane or Sydney
No where 32 teams is enough.
Unfortunately the NFL is going to expand either way, the money printer greed is strong
@@FootballLoreOfficial - All because of
Macron-Orion-Rod-Oven-Nose-Sandwich
like you that enable them to do this!
There arent enough good QBs to sustain all these extra teams
@@FootballLoreOfficial No, it's not
Great video! I like your ideas on expansion cities. 8 divisions right now, 32 teams currently. Adding teams might be tough. However, use this as a way to get Dallas out of the NFC East!!! Lol.
the lack of awareness of the real world is astounding in this video....
Whys that
What about this is unrealistic? The NFL has openly said "we want to expand internationally", are you just too stupid to know what that means? Here is the definition pea brain. Internationally - Adverb - in, between, or among many different nations.
"companies looking to trade internationally"
@@FootballLoreOfficial
Wow what an absolute pathetic comeback. Talk about providing an example of why not to subscribe. Why? Because the rest of the world doesn’t give a flying f about NFL and American football. So no, there’s going to be no international expansion.
Okay then don't subscribe. Your country is poor, America is the only reason you guys even exist.
@@xr6lad seethe
I think if they added another team in Texas tho it would be in San Antonio. If it were in Austin then it would probably play second fiddle to the Longhorns like you mentioned. San Antonio really only has the Spurs and I feel like an nfl team wouldn’t play 2nd fiddle to the Spurs
would be cool either way
Austin wont have an NFL Team due to UT as you mentioned.
Well see
I think San Antonio would make more sense. A ton of the small towns in that metro area like Wimberly, Gonzalez, etc. would support a San Antonio team. And it's relatively close enough to Austin.
What about Columbus, OH? Additionally why not Hamilton over Toronto. It’s close by and is sports crazy. Would it avoid issues with Toronto media market being included in Buffalo’s media territory?
Columbus 100% will not get a team, already 3 in Ohio and its not big enough. Hamilton is still bills territory
The NFL would have to allow CFL owners in the NFL if they want to expand into Canada as allowing the NFL in would pretty much destroy the CFL. Also, Canada really only has 3 cities that could support and NFL team (Toronto, Montreal, and Vancouver).
Here's the way I think it should work
The NFL expands into Europe and Asia and all that with a new group of 32 teams
The United States and the Europe side play their own seasons
We have the regular playoff games with the super bowl and then the winner of the Superbowl in both leagues play in the megabowl
facts
San Diego, Toronto, Frankfurt, London, Mexico City, Utah, Austin & Birmingham also Omaha is an option
You have to understand the mindset of Europeans, they are like the American version of "keeping up with the Jones". For instance, if there's a Frankfurt team and it works, you can be damn sure that London will want their own nfl team. Having a nfl team will be seen as a status symbol and then you'll see Milan wanting one, maybe Marseille wants to get into the action..etc, etc ,etc
could be huge for league revenue
The chargers had good reason to leave San Diego. They wanted a new stadium and at first San Diego didn't want to build one. But by the time they came around, chargers was on way out
The Utah hockey club is supposed to be only a temporary name. The second round of voting by fans has been done for a while now. The team announced yesterday that their is a clear front runner but they are currently in legal proceedings to make a name and logo trademarks happen.
oh thank god
Expanding the NFL beyond its current team count is a horrendous idea
I don't think that Montreal would be impossible to support an NFL team. I'm sure that they can be a part of the league eventually. I'd also like to see Major League Baseball take another shot at Montreal.
no frenchies
As far as San Diego goes, the Chargers did San Diego dirty even though yeah, San Diego didn't want to pay for a new Chargers stadium. If the NFL was to expand to San Diego, if that team is an AFC team and possibly in the AFC West with the Chargers, that would be an intense rivalry, especially whenever the Chargers would go back to San Diego to play the San Diego expansion team. In this instance too, the NFL would have their version of the Dodgers-Padres LA-San Diego type rivalry, a battle of SoCal. The San Diego expansion team could maybe have a rivalry with the Rams, even though they wouldn't play each other as often.
Also if the NFL expands to San Diego, San Diego could be back in the Super Bowl rotation, even though I wonder if LA and Vegas kind of replaced San Diego as one of the main West Coast destinations to host Super Bowls.
they ended up bulding a stadium where the old one was
@@FootballLoreOfficial will they play in that stadium is the question
@@FootballLoreOfficial True yes, for San Diego State's football team. Looks nice, but not sure it would be big enough to house an NFL team
To really draw Mexicans in, make it as close to the border as possible.
The NFL should totally relocate the rams to st louis i also have mixed feelings about jacksonville
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Not quite sure why no one suggests Navy related names for a new San Diego team. It's the second largest Naval base in the world and is the practical home of the US Navy Pacific Fleet. It has a long history of being a Naval Base city. Think if how cool a team based around that could be!
My favorite name would be Cruisers but you could also go with Destroyers, Battleships, Battery, Armada, Admirals, Fleet, etc. And then for colors I'd go with a dark blue similar to the one the Navy uses, Gray, and Gold, representing the colors of the US Navy.
Or the San Diego Dreadnoughts
@@thatredsunburst oooo facts good one