32:45 I was literally screaming at my computer. How could he have missed the possible win if he swung all out then shocked? I mean, come on. What're the odds the opponent plays Fungal Infection or any 1 mana spell that would matter in Golgari Midrange?
32:40 SETH! WHAT THE HELL! I was so happy when you top decked that shock, and you just pass? That's gotta be one of the biggest punts I've seen you make on this channel. lol
No, you're right. Only way opponent didn't die there was if they had Fungal Infection, which I heavily doubt. He could have easily won that game and I don't understand how he missed that.
Seth was probably trying to play around Fungal Infection, Necrotic Wound and Nightmare's Thirst - but I still think it would have been better to try to go for the kill, especially with that board state.
I thought everyone was being dramatic about the punt, but, that just topped the list as the most painful thing I've seen this year. Especially because you thought about it afterwards and still didn't realize.
literally anything is better than going all out in a matchup you win in the long haul with exp frenzy in hand and 6 lands down. Really painful misplay to lose that game.
I think 7:00 is an interesting decision point, and what I believe cost us the game. Good example of identifying 'who is the beatdown' and how this role changes midgame. I think we should have paid 4 life to keep adanto. Opp is taking 6 to 14. If we cast heroic next turn we have exactly 14 power for lethal. Also, opp only has a 1/1 at this point. If opponent plays a creature on defense we still have lightning strike, and if we draw a land can both play lightning strike + heroic.
Agreed. I'd probably put in Rekindling Phoenix as a replacement, not quite a combo but it's solid enough on it's own and with Visitation out you do get your value's worth even if you can't bring phoenix back.
Amazing video thanks!!! I would play 3 divine visitation and try haunted witness and goblin instigator. Maybe even play 4 divine. I know it's a lot but I want to see it every game.
Seth if you truly want to abuse Visitation's value then you should try a more control~ish build with the Fountain of renewal + Dawn of hope "combo" :^) Thus far my favortite setup is Abzan Visitation because it literally has an answer for everything (you can wipe your own board with Cleansing novas if you got DoH on the battlefield) and also added x2 Immortal Suns just to make Teferi players cry.
Personally at the 32:49 mark I swing all out. Opponent has to block the angels with the doom whisperers, honor guard gets in for 1, shock for 2. game win :)
It’s happened every time seth playing an aggro deck. He always plays very conservatively and misses lethal a lot of times. He is very with control though but this one is too painful to watch.
Replace Frenzy with Risk Factor and watch the wins rack up. Applying the kind of pressure this deck can make either outcome of a resolved factor brutal.
Well I havent gotten to the 32:00 mark yet, so no comment from me lol. Just out of curiosity, 5:40, shouldn't you have waited until he targeted a creature with dauntless and then Shock'd in response?
Never brought in the Citywide Bust? Seriously? Even though all the critters like Aurelia and Wildgrowth Walker die to it, and almost none of yours do? AAAAAAARRRRRGGGGHHHHH!
Running only 2 visitations in a visitation deck seems kind of wrong. I feel like cutting the experimental frenzies and adding visitations would make drawing them a little more consistent. Other than that they deck looks really fun
Arena is sometimes weird when you have something that has to attack. It looks like they might have changed it now, but it used to be that when you went to combat with a Legion Warboss out, it would automatically set the created goblin token to attacking, and instead of the "All Attack" button, it would be "1 Attack". So if you weren't careful and clicked there expecting it to be "All Attack" you would end up attacking with just the goblin token.
What is that mana base though? You have 17 red sources but no cards with more than red pip. This deck would probably play so much smoother with 9 plains and 6 mountains instead.
I don't know if their is an issue with the client but how did you get the chest to display on arena because mine isn't showing, sorry if this is a stupid question but I'm new to arena and just trying to figure things out, thanks
"Do we cut divine visitation? Down to one? that's like our namesake card though." YEAH THAT'S CAUSE THERE'S ___TWO___ OF THEM. IN THE WHOLE DECK. THE DECK THAT WAS BUILT AROUND THAT CARD.
SETH! STOP PLAYING LANDS in your hand before playing a Frenzy, it just means you will get more stuck behind a land on top. youre gonna find lands, don't kneecap your Experimental frenzy by playing a land from hand before it
Actually the math works out such that it depends how many lands you already have. Frank Karsten ran the numbers for a specific deck. Generally speaking the more lands you already have in play the more you want to hold the land for the reasons you specified. When you have fewer lands it becomes better to take Seth's line.
oh Seth. As soon as I saw 32:45 , I went down to the comments and sure enough, top 5 all about the exact same moment, with a ton of replies each. I'm so sorry for you, lol.
Wow the comments section of this episode seems to be devoted to pointing out your punt for not being able to do math XD. You seem to have made many people terribly mad. Lol that was "a painful loss."
Can someone tell me why the deck has 6 plains and 9 mountains (+8 bicolor mana) when the cards are more infatuated towards white than red (by infatuated - ofc I don't have the right term - I mean that there are more cost with 2 white mana than there are of red mana... and here no card asks for more than 1 red mana) ?
It's mostly for History of Benalia. While we have more cards that need red mana in general, white is where our double colors cards are (History and Divine Visitation).
Funny how Legion Warboss creates a hasty 4/4 angel but Legion’s Landing doesn’t give the 4/4 Lifelink. Magic and it’s wording can be difficult sometimes lol
mehmehxxx Divine visitation just replaces whatever token is made with the 4/4 angel. In legion war bosses case that token is supposed to be attacking at combat. So divine visitation replaces the 1/1 with the 4/4 which still has the attack.
Rovert Wasyek yes and no. Here’s what I’m getting at, if legion warboss created a goblin WITH haste, then Divine Visitation would simply create an angel without haste and would not be able to attack that turn. Wording can be difficult sometimes is all I’m saying lol
It makes me sad when people overlook Tocatli Honor Guard in the RDW matchup. Turns off Chainwhirler and Viashino, and it blocks and survives almost every creature they have.
10:22 Why don't you just do the attack and see if they even block? There's a chance they'll forget to block or even miscount damage & scoop and you'd win. There's literally no reason to not take the extra 10 seconds and hit "Attack" before you scoop.
Everybody saying the same shit. He just misplayed it happens with everyone, you don't need to play everygame 100% focus and tryharding. Just relax and have fun. cheers
10:40 what the fuck you were not dead with the lifelink you would have got!! Sometimes your videos are "try to not rage"'. Come on, come back to the not-surrender-early please!!!!!
@@MTGGoldfish oups sorry, i confused lifelink soldier and no capacity ones, my bad 😅 it does not shake up the fact that you have too often the tendancy to surrender early! Anyway i love your videos even though you make me rage sometimes 😁
Seth, you need to stop playing and just brew. Let others play your decks because you're simply awful. I've stopped watching your streams and this was the last game I'll watch.
32:45 I was literally screaming at my computer. How could he have missed the possible win if he swung all out then shocked? I mean, come on. What're the odds the opponent plays Fungal Infection or any 1 mana spell that would matter in Golgari Midrange?
At instant speed.
And I love that RNGesus immediately punished you the next round for such a silly punt.
MADNESS I was so nad
Instantly opened the comment section
Haha same. Punt of the year right there.
32:40 SETH! WHAT THE HELL!
I was so happy when you top decked that shock, and you just pass? That's gotta be one of the biggest punts I've seen you make on this channel. lol
Yeah, that was a rough one :(
I got mad too
It's gotta take a backseat to the time he LITERALLY HAD LETHAL with Myr Battlesphere and went for the characteristic early scoop instead.
At 32:45 couldn't you have attacked with all, hit for 1 with honor-guard and shocked face for the win?
I was really disappointed he missed that, definitely a !punt
Punt of the freaking year.
I was pissed
I screamed with all my lungs.
Same here.. just watching and say yeaaah punish is coming
34:04 "I felt like we were on the cusp of winning"
Yeah, it's called missing lethal 🙄
Everyone was saying this lol
At 32:40 - Attack out and get 1 damage through, then Shock for the win. Did I miss something?
No, you're right. Only way opponent didn't die there was if they had Fungal Infection, which I heavily doubt. He could have easily won that game and I don't understand how he missed that.
Yes, that hes not that great of a Magic player
No you didn't; Seth did.
Seth was probably trying to play around Fungal Infection, Necrotic Wound and Nightmare's Thirst - but I still think it would have been better to try to go for the kill, especially with that board state.
I thought everyone was being dramatic about the punt, but, that just topped the list as the most painful thing I've seen this year. Especially because you thought about it afterwards and still didn't realize.
8:01 make 5 tokens with Tilonalli's Summoner next turn untap and pump with the 4 drop spell for the win?
literally anything is better than going all out in a matchup you win in the long haul with exp frenzy in hand and 6 lands down. Really painful misplay to lose that game.
Awesome video Seth! I guess the biggest take away I got from this is that heroic reinforcements is really good and two of them can just win games
This worked a lot better than I expected it to. Man, I can't wait to actually have cards to make real decks with.
I think 7:00 is an interesting decision point, and what I believe cost us the game. Good example of identifying 'who is the beatdown' and how this role changes midgame. I think we should have paid 4 life to keep adanto. Opp is taking 6 to 14. If we cast heroic next turn we have exactly 14 power for lethal. Also, opp only has a 1/1 at this point. If opponent plays a creature on defense we still have lightning strike, and if we draw a land can both play lightning strike + heroic.
Sorry Seth, but Frenzy just is NOT good in this deck... Perhaps Goblin Instigator instead?
Yeah, Frenzy didn't feel great (although this was an Instant Deck Tech deck, so I didn't actually build it).
Agreed. I'd probably put in Rekindling Phoenix as a replacement, not quite a combo but it's solid enough on it's own and with Visitation out you do get your value's worth even if you can't bring phoenix back.
@@MTGGoldfish I understand. Thanks for the reply!
Could’ve beaten Golgari with the shock right. They had two blockers so attack with both angels and honor guard they take one down to two
"if only this were a lightning strike"... Deeeerp
To be fair, the opponent used a cast down next turn, which we had seen previously, I believe.
@@jobu71x he only had one mana left.
@@spacelegos4964 well poo, a punt is born!
@@jobu71x But he didn't have mana up for one during attacks.
Thank you Saffron, you got me into MTGO. Now i'm slowly going broke, but at least i'm going for broke!
Daaaamn, that punts In the running for punt of the year.
Wouldn't want to miss out on a potential award :)
Amazing video thanks!!! I would play 3 divine visitation and try haunted witness and goblin instigator. Maybe even play 4 divine. I know it's a lot but I want to see it every game.
Does this deck really want experimental frenzy?
No, Seth is just a bad player for thinking its good and shoving it in anything Red now.
It's not that bad, but often it's better something like witness or goblin instigator. Maybe even big siege gang
Everyone seems to think if you play red play frenzy. When it only works in a certain style of deck.
This is one of our Instant Deck Tech decks, so I didn't actually build it.
@@MrTroyPlayer that's a weird way of saying 'Seth is our lord and savior'
Seth if you truly want to abuse Visitation's value then you should try a more control~ish build with the Fountain of renewal + Dawn of hope "combo" :^) Thus far my favortite setup is Abzan Visitation because it literally has an answer for everything (you can wipe your own board with Cleansing novas if you got DoH on the battlefield) and also added x2 Immortal Suns just to make Teferi players cry.
This is a terrible deck for Experimental Frenzy
Personally at the 32:49 mark I swing all out. Opponent has to block the angels with the doom whisperers, honor guard gets in for 1, shock for 2. game win :)
It’s happened every time seth playing an aggro deck. He always plays very conservatively and misses lethal a lot of times. He is very with control though but this one is too painful to watch.
Wildgrowth Walker + Jadelight is just disgusting
That punt though… :D
Love ur content, keep up the great videos. 👍👍
Btw Seth in the gb explore match you should have swung in after the first angels. It would have dealt 7 or 9 dmg giving you lethal the next turn.
Like everyone here 32:45 i was screeeeaaaming at my pc that you would somehow hear me, u punted that win
Replace Frenzy with Risk Factor and watch the wins rack up. Applying the kind of pressure this deck can make either outcome of a resolved factor brutal.
4:17
Well I havent gotten to the 32:00 mark yet, so no comment from me lol. Just out of curiosity, 5:40, shouldn't you have waited until he targeted a creature with dauntless and then Shock'd in response?
Never brought in the Citywide Bust? Seriously? Even though all the critters like Aurelia and Wildgrowth Walker die to it, and almost none of yours do? AAAAAAARRRRRGGGGHHHHH!
The missplays hurt to watch
Running only 2 visitations in a visitation deck seems kind of wrong. I feel like cutting the experimental frenzies and adding visitations would make drawing them a little more consistent. Other than that they deck looks really fun
59:43 wow. Gods smiled on you this day
This mana base seems off. You have WW and no RR cards but more mountains?
ixalan's bindings is also a good magic card
when oh when will seth understand that there's an "all attack" button and that you never ever keep one-landers no matter what
Attack all is really weird and scary with Legion Warboss.
Arena is sometimes weird when you have something that has to attack. It looks like they might have changed it now, but it used to be that when you went to combat with a Legion Warboss out, it would automatically set the created goblin token to attacking, and instead of the "All Attack" button, it would be "1 Attack". So if you weren't careful and clicked there expecting it to be "All Attack" you would end up attacking with just the goblin token.
yeah fun deck but the possible win with the swing out killed me as well lol. maybe ill give the deck a try see how i do with it :)
1:14:10 you left out honor guard vs chainwhirler and pyromancer... I do not understand this...
Curious why you didn't want any Guilds of Ravnica cards?
What is that mana base though? You have 17 red sources but no cards with more than red pip. This deck would probably play so much smoother with 9 plains and 6 mountains instead.
I don't know if their is an issue with the client but how did you get the chest to display on arena because mine isn't showing, sorry if this is a stupid question but I'm new to arena and just trying to figure things out, thanks
It shows after you are at 100% Seth keeps his above 100 and only opens after it hits 200
omg that punt 32:40
"Do we cut divine visitation? Down to one? that's like our namesake card though."
YEAH THAT'S CAUSE THERE'S ___TWO___ OF THEM. IN THE WHOLE DECK. THE DECK THAT WAS BUILT AROUND THAT CARD.
SETH! STOP PLAYING LANDS in your hand before playing a Frenzy, it just means you will get more stuck behind a land on top. youre gonna find lands, don't kneecap your Experimental frenzy by playing a land from hand before it
Actually the math works out such that it depends how many lands you already have. Frank Karsten ran the numbers for a specific deck. Generally speaking the more lands you already have in play the more you want to hold the land for the reasons you specified. When you have fewer lands it becomes better to take Seth's line.
Punted game 2 vs golgari. Had lethal.
It’s not even 10 pm central time yet
oh Seth. As soon as I saw 32:45 , I went down to the comments and sure enough, top 5 all about the exact same moment, with a ton of replies each. I'm so sorry for you, lol.
For the longest time, I thought the boi's name was "I Ankle in MTG". Then I realised...
MEGA PUNT ON THE SHOCK @32:45
Wow the comments section of this episode seems to be devoted to pointing out your punt for not being able to do math XD. You seem to have made many people terribly mad. Lol that was "a painful loss."
Ha, indeed! It's deserved, although we also did end up with max wins.
Oof Seth did not play this deck very well.
i mean,, he missed lethal with shock but not much else
A cool Boros combo is Deafening Clarion and Tajic. If you two mode Clarion, Tajic protects your tokens so it becomes Tajic for all your opp’s stuff
32:45 that doesn't quite do it.
Topdecks and puns.
I came to see if anybody else noticed thwt hig misplay. Was not disappointed
1:05:38 nice rhyme time ;D~
ＭＩＳＳＥＤ ＬＥＴＨＡＬ
I didn't even know the summoner was a card...
32:45 SO TILTED!
Can someone tell me why the deck has 6 plains and 9 mountains (+8 bicolor mana) when the cards are more infatuated towards white than red (by infatuated - ofc I don't have the right term - I mean that there are more cost with 2 white mana than there are of red mana... and here no card asks for more than 1 red mana) ?
It's mostly for History of Benalia. While we have more cards that need red mana in general, white is where our double colors cards are (History and Divine Visitation).
@@MTGGoldfish OK thanks for the reply, I did not take into account the number of red cards (should have though^^)
so arena is nothing but golgari midrange and forms of aggresive red decks...?
This league was worse than normal in terms of diversity, usually see Izzet Drakes and control too.
Funny how Legion Warboss creates a hasty 4/4 angel but Legion’s Landing doesn’t give the 4/4 Lifelink. Magic and it’s wording can be difficult sometimes lol
mehmehxxx Divine visitation just replaces whatever token is made with the 4/4 angel. In legion war bosses case that token is supposed to be attacking at combat. So divine visitation replaces the 1/1 with the 4/4 which still has the attack.
Rovert Wasyek yes and no. Here’s what I’m getting at, if legion warboss created a goblin WITH haste, then Divine Visitation would simply create an angel without haste and would not be able to attack that turn. Wording can be difficult sometimes is all I’m saying lol
WHY DID HE NOT SHOCK
The Experimental frenzy looks kind of bad in this deck.
It makes me sad when people overlook Tocatli Honor Guard in the RDW matchup. Turns off Chainwhirler and Viashino, and it blocks and survives almost every creature they have.
Just so happen to own all the cards to make the deck with exception or tokatli lol
Oh seth c'mon...that shock punt was just bad...how could you've missed lethal there? I usually defend you but this is just...indefensible xD
I have to keep all of you on your toes ;)
@@MTGGoldfish well, mission accomplished, i definitely was xD
No sympathy for that punt at 32:40
Yes missed lethal ther :(
32:42 miss lethal
32:48 What a punt. You topdeck the win and don't get it.
32:50 PUNNNNNNNNT
10:22 Why don't you just do the attack and see if they even block? There's a chance they'll forget to block or even miscount damage & scoop and you'd win. There's literally no reason to not take the extra 10 seconds and hit "Attack" before you scoop.
Heeeeeello.
G2 against GB you had lethal if you attacked with everything. And then shocked
Hmm, oops!
@@MTGGoldfish it happens. Love Summoner as a card just not sure if this is the right build for it.
Please stop cutting your token markers instead of vanguards in the matches vanguard is bad in.
Puntttttttt
Everybody saying the same shit. He just misplayed it happens with everyone, you don't need to play everygame 100% focus and tryharding. Just relax and have fun. cheers
Couldn't you have won the first game if you didn't concede? They had 3 creatures and 4 life you were swinging with 7 creatures.
The problem was one of our opponent's creatures (the token) had lifelink, so they would go up to six and we'd hit them for five.
Seth Noooooooooooooooo game 2 against golgari noooooooo
so disappointing buy not swinging out against golgari
3 attackers 2 blocker. Left opponent at two and shock for the win....sad.
Frenzy does not belong in this deck
Yeah, Frenzy felt a bit weird.
You gotta get more training with aggro Seth, you punted multiple games this video by not going ham
Massive misplay lol
Nope. Had to stop watching after that punt.
10:40 what the fuck you were not dead with the lifelink you would have got!! Sometimes your videos are "try to not rage"'. Come on, come back to the not-surrender-early please!!!!!
We didn't have any lifelink though (and our opponent did).
@@MTGGoldfish oups sorry, i confused lifelink soldier and no capacity ones, my bad 😅 it does not shake up the fact that you have too often the tendancy to surrender early! Anyway i love your videos even though you make me rage sometimes 😁
Seth, you need to stop playing and just brew. Let others play your decks because you're simply awful. I've stopped watching your streams and this was the last game I'll watch.
Why do you talk like that?
Nobody talks like that.
lmao
Please don’t record game audio, random video game and nature sounds are annoying
Game FX are ok... No sound os just boring
I should do a poll on this. When I play by myself I usually have the game audio off, but for some reason I thought people liked the sound effects.