same, it was my very first jrpg and it introduced me into final fantasy and just like that meme song from the 2000s went.... Final Fantasy truly has consumed my life.
@@LIONTAMER3D ok….. cool? I guess we shouldn’t celebrate him beating the old record by that much because a computer is faster? Nah, I stand by my statement that Oujiawii is amazing and this run indeed was crazy town….
@@LIONTAMER3D and you’re rude asf. Why are you even here? Go be a rude oaf elsewhere. The dragon warrior speed running community doesn’t need you. Thank you very much for stopping by.
@@LIONTAMER3D comparing a human time to a TAS. You memorize every step and every frame and then you can be a rude a hiole. Until then, your opinion means nothing.
That's what makes speedrunning so fascinating. And people who don't watch speedrunning are just like "what's fun or interesting about skipping parts of the game?" Their understanding of speedrunning is limited to someone playing normally, just really well.
@maxpower2511 they don't have source code but they have access to other stuff. That's how cheat devices worked. You check numbers, you do something in the game, you check the numbers again to see what changed and how.
@@maxpower2511 Some people are crazy enough to read the machine code with a hexadecimal editor to learn how the code works, they document it on a wiki somewhere, and speedrunners read that to learn exploits to use on the game. Nothing impressive as they like to pretend it is.
Had a theory that I came up with to increase the WR by a few seconds. don't move the cursor to take or stairs. move the cursor up once to search and you climb stairs and treasure chests
I keep notes with me during the run, but by the time I'm able to finish a run I have made so many attempts that I have the entire run memorized. The only part I need to reference the notes is during the garinham dive, which I did mess up, and the axe knight fight - depending on what frame I cleared the text box at the king at the start of that section. Even the dragonlord fight was done by memory in the end. Its all about practicing little sections over and over until it sinks in.
Hold on, how do you do these exploits? How do you run down to metal slime? How do you consistently run away when you need to, make sleep last so long, make enemies spam stopspell? etc etc.
He's doing "RNG manipulation" to control the "random" numbers that control the way the game plays. You can find videos that explain how it works. (And no, it has nothing to do with Game Genie...)
@@leifleoden5464 RNG manipulation. The game generates a specific string of numbers, so you can "waste" the numbers that you don't want so your actions benefit from the "good" numbers. That's why he stops moving, bumps into things and does seemingly unnecessary menu stuff all the time, he's cycling through the numbers until he gets the ones that he wants.
On this day of attempts, I only had two restarts before setting the world record. Instead of editing the recording, I decided to upload it in it's entirety, which includes both resets before the WR happened.
@@Newriddd During the first two attempts, I tried to menu the cursor too early (it looks stuck in place before I reset), and wasn't able to get the controlled RNG with proper menuing until attempt #3. Once I am able to menu properly and on the known frame, I can continue the script I have written.
RNG manipulation. The game generates a specific string of numbers, so with specific movements and menu navigation, you can keep the "good" numbers for your attacks, get the enemies that you want to spawn, get the enemy to use the attacks or spells that you want, get enemies to fail resisting Sleep, get enemies to stay asleep forever, run without fail, etc. That's why he stops walking once in a while, takes some unnecessary steps, bumps into things, moves the cursor and cancels for no reason before most actions, etc. He's cycling through the "bad" numbers.
Run starts at 0:45
Imagine telling the creators of this game that you beat it in 23 minutes, when they released it, unimaginable. Wow! So amazing!
I got this game when I was like 7 years old. Its one of my biggest influences into getting into the fantasy genre.
same, it was my very first jrpg and it introduced me into final fantasy and just like that meme song from the 2000s went.... Final Fantasy truly has consumed my life.
same. a few years later dragon warrior IV blew my balls off
@@VesusSheistRIP balls.
I drove my mom crazy with that music in 1989. Its 2024 and Im 47, lol good memories guys.
A decade later than you, but same! The GameBoy releases for 1 and 2 drove my mom up the wall for a solid couple months... ❤
@@ParagonOblivion I know right, let's not even talk about super Mario or the original Zelda, lol 😆
Congrats man! I'm glad to see you're still grinding it out! Miss ya pal!
I LOVE THIS GAME, i feel like playing through it again
Incredible stuff, man! Gratz on that record, you put in the hard work.
Grats Ouijawii! You're amazing, keep it up! Beating NES Card by almost a full minute is crazy town!
this game can go much lower, TASers are @ +17min so there's plenty of room
@@LIONTAMER3D ok….. cool? I guess we shouldn’t celebrate him beating the old record by that much because a computer is faster? Nah, I stand by my statement that Oujiawii is amazing and this run indeed was crazy town….
@@petermiller9878 you're dense af, saying there's room left to go in no way contradicts anything you wrote lol
@@LIONTAMER3D and you’re rude asf. Why are you even here? Go be a rude oaf elsewhere. The dragon warrior speed running community doesn’t need you. Thank you very much for stopping by.
@@LIONTAMER3D comparing a human time to a TAS. You memorize every step and every frame and then you can be a rude a hiole. Until then, your opinion means nothing.
i love von kaisers youtube reaction at the corner
I remember getting this game free with a new subscription to Nintendo Power.
My mom did the same for me. Was awesome. Now in 2024 I'm 47 and folks are gone. Good memories though.
NEScard just retook the record with a 22:29!
Boggles me how someone first figured this all out unless they were a developer of the game
That's what makes speedrunning so fascinating. And people who don't watch speedrunning are just like "what's fun or interesting about skipping parts of the game?" Their understanding of speedrunning is limited to someone playing normally, just really well.
@@rooty But how do they know what tiles you are on, how many steps to take all of this other stuff without knowing the code?
@maxpower2511 they don't have source code but they have access to other stuff. That's how cheat devices worked. You check numbers, you do something in the game, you check the numbers again to see what changed and how.
@@maxpower2511 Some people are crazy enough to read the machine code with a hexadecimal editor to learn how the code works, they document it on a wiki somewhere, and speedrunners read that to learn exploits to use on the game. Nothing impressive as they like to pretend it is.
Hast thou brought the princess?
...who?
Wow. Massive respect!
just like life in the ghetto, this game changes dramatically when our hero gets access to keys -.-
Had a theory that I came up with to increase the WR by a few seconds. don't move the cursor to take or stairs. move the cursor up once to search and you climb stairs and treasure chests
Incredible, how do you remember all that manipulation.
I keep notes with me during the run, but by the time I'm able to finish a run I have made so many attempts that I have the entire run memorized. The only part I need to reference the notes is during the garinham dive, which I did mess up, and the axe knight fight - depending on what frame I cleared the text box at the king at the start of that section. Even the dragonlord fight was done by memory in the end. Its all about practicing little sections over and over until it sinks in.
@@Ouijawii that takes years lol i remember how long it took me to suck even slightly less at this game; it was brutally unforgiving
Impressive!!
Hold on, how do you do these exploits? How do you run down to metal slime? How do you consistently run away when you need to, make sleep last so long, make enemies spam stopspell? etc etc.
He is using game genie
You manipulate the RNG by timing inputs at certain ticks in the game. This video explains it:
ua-cam.com/video/Bgh30BiWG58/v-deo.html
He's doing "RNG manipulation" to control the "random" numbers that control the way the game plays. You can find videos that explain how it works. (And no, it has nothing to do with Game Genie...)
whats the trick to get excellent attacks all the time or avoid random encounters for the most part ?
I also have these questions.
@@leifleoden5464 RNG manipulation. The game generates a specific string of numbers, so you can "waste" the numbers that you don't want so your actions benefit from the "good" numbers. That's why he stops moving, bumps into things and does seemingly unnecessary menu stuff all the time, he's cycling through the numbers until he gets the ones that he wants.
I do not understand how one figures this out.
GG AMAZING
I defeated this decades ago on the nes
Command?
GG!
Why start 2 new games? 🤷♂️
this way he gets 2 world records, duh!
Deve ser manipulação de RNG
Muito massa
What was the clue of bad rng to restart twice?
On this day of attempts, I only had two restarts before setting the world record. Instead of editing the recording, I decided to upload it in it's entirety, which includes both resets before the WR happened.
@Ouijawii that's awesome! What happened to make you restart twice, though? What gives it away that it's not the correct rng?
@@Newriddd During the first two attempts, I tried to menu the cursor too early (it looks stuck in place before I reset), and wasn't able to get the controlled RNG with proper menuing until attempt #3. Once I am able to menu properly and on the known frame, I can continue the script I have written.
@@Ouijawii i see. Thanks!
And I thought the parry trick from dq3 was cool.
Why are ALL your attacks criticals?!
RNG manipulation. The game generates a specific string of numbers, so with specific movements and menu navigation, you can keep the "good" numbers for your attacks, get the enemies that you want to spawn, get the enemy to use the attacks or spells that you want, get enemies to fail resisting Sleep, get enemies to stay asleep forever, run without fail, etc. That's why he stops walking once in a while, takes some unnecessary steps, bumps into things, moves the cursor and cancels for no reason before most actions, etc. He's cycling through the "bad" numbers.
GG