Can u show a video of unplugging the bms then charging the auxiliary batteries. I don't know where the bms is located and how do u charge the auxiliary batteries? Thanks
The aux batteries look like regular batteries. They connected between each other with plugged cables. There’s is also a little black box will be there somewhere on the side. Look for cable that goes from the batteries to that box. That would be the cable that you need to unplug. After you finished charging, plug that cable back. Disconnect the charging device. Cut of power in the truck entirely with switches behind the driver’s seat. Wait for 10 minutes and turn the power ON. The charging process is similar to charging regular batteries.
According to the paperwork, the system weight is around 500lbs. It also includes a certificate that gives you an exemption for at least 450lbs(some states 560lbs) from any axle or gross weight in 45 states, so it basically weigh nothing if the concern is extra GVW. In regards of fuel economy, it saves more than $600 a month in fuel because you not going to be idle the truck that much plus less money on extra maintenance and harm to the truck caused by idling. For instance: with paccar engine you must idle at 1000rpm according to the owners manual, that would take about 0.8 gallons per hour of fuel (according to the dashboard computer). With constant AC running it goes up to 1 gallon. When you have your AC running the will kick in the engine fan ON like every 30seconds, and when the fan is running, the consumption goes up to 1.5 gallons. Today the average price of fuel is $2.8 per gallon. 10 hour break will cost at least $28. 10 days = $280, 30 days = $840. Yes, you will not idle every day for 10 hours, but the average will still be high number (add idling while loading/unloading). Even if you going to buy new idling system every year, it will save you money. One of the main reasons for me to have idling system besides the fuel economy is that you sleep with no vibration caused buy the truck running. Much better sleep. Answering your question - yep, extra 500lbs worth all they benefits the system gives.
You will get this message every 500 hours after using your management system working. You need to reset it by pushing power button and menu button at the same time and hold them for like 10 seconds. Also, every once in a while clean your filter. It’s a blue furnace filter inside the management system under the bunk.
@@rbk77 you are the boss- this technique cleared that msg and I checked the filter it’s clean. It hasn’t started to heat yet, I am giving it couple mins to see. I will update you. Thanks much
hi , auxiliary battery not charging 3rd party dealer replaced auxiliary batteries 4 of them and i was okey 12 hour in cold weather after its stop. what it could be the cause ? i changed fuses under bed one . still same. not charging issue , should I go dealer ?
There are fuses inside the idle management system. It can be many cases. Bad wiring, relay died or work incorrectly. The batteries may be "sleeping". Check out videos about how to wake up deep cycle batteries with a car jump starter.
Yes, I am. Over 2 years have 5000hours+ on it. Considering the price of diesel these days it paid off itself surprisingly quickly. I had to refill the freon once which cost me $120, and that was it. Initially I was told that I’ll need to refill it in the first couple months since factory does not put a lot in the system for some reason.
I have a kw 2022 fleet. It doesn't have a way to auto start and keep you from driving your battery, if you sleep with radii on or a fan running all night..
@@xxlcajun76 That's what I ran into. I could not find anything on how to troubleshoot, reset, recharge the KIMS. I went to the dealership, and they told me 3 weeks wait time for simple to take a look at it, but they suggested I may need simply to charge the batteries directly (not trough the connection under the hood because battery management system will not charge go through to the aux batteries).
@@rbk77 I just bought the truck it’s 2017 model previous owner had disconnected from bgm the batteries have have original napa batteries from 2017 sticker on it, I can’t even turn on heat from inside after connecting the wire
This system needs to upgrade igot same system and it’s always needs shop for repairs, igot same problem with auxiliary batteries I’m tired repairing the system, I going with Thermo king $ 15 thousand dollars, hope me luck,
Do they mention what's exact problem with batteries? The system looks pretty straightforward. Other than refilling freon it's pretty much super simple.
Bro you don't know what good Apu I've had a Pete with the same Idol thing that you have it's a piece of s*** I'd rather get the Thermo King that goes outside that takes a little bit longer to install and its price your
Thank you!!!! I looked everywhere for help on this!!
The inverter you showed is the one that comes with the truck?
Nope, I've installed it.
Can u show a video of unplugging the bms then charging the auxiliary batteries. I don't know where the bms is located and how do u charge the auxiliary batteries? Thanks
The aux batteries look like regular batteries. They connected between each other with plugged cables. There’s is also a little black box will be there somewhere on the side. Look for cable that goes from the batteries to that box. That would be the cable that you need to unplug. After you finished charging, plug that cable back. Disconnect the charging device. Cut of power in the truck entirely with switches behind the driver’s seat. Wait for 10 minutes and turn the power ON.
The charging process is similar to charging regular batteries.
Do you think it’s worth the price and the weight that it adds?
According to the paperwork, the system weight is around 500lbs. It also includes a certificate that gives you an exemption for at least 450lbs(some states 560lbs) from any axle or gross weight in 45 states, so it basically weigh nothing if the concern is extra GVW. In regards of fuel economy, it saves more than $600 a month in fuel because you not going to be idle the truck that much plus less money on extra maintenance and harm to the truck caused by idling.
For instance: with paccar engine you must idle at 1000rpm according to the owners manual, that would take about 0.8 gallons per hour of fuel (according to the dashboard computer). With constant AC running it goes up to 1 gallon. When you have your AC running the will kick in the engine fan ON like every 30seconds, and when the fan is running, the consumption goes up to 1.5 gallons. Today the average price of fuel is $2.8 per gallon. 10 hour break will cost at least $28. 10 days = $280, 30 days = $840. Yes, you will not idle every day for 10 hours, but the average will still be high number (add idling while loading/unloading). Even if you going to buy new idling system every year, it will save you money. One of the main reasons for me to have idling system besides the fuel economy is that you sleep with no vibration caused buy the truck running. Much better sleep.
Answering your question - yep, extra 500lbs worth all they benefits the system gives.
I have kw t680 and has the same idle mgnt system. When I switch to heat, it shows a msg next to it; Check filter. Please share if you u know anything
You will get this message every 500 hours after using your management system working. You need to reset it by pushing power button and menu button at the same time and hold them for like 10 seconds. Also, every once in a while clean your filter. It’s a blue furnace filter inside the management system under the bunk.
@@rbk77 you are the boss- this technique cleared that msg and I checked the filter it’s clean. It hasn’t started to heat yet, I am giving it couple mins to see. I will update you. Thanks much
Mine just has "fan" blinking and won't show the battery level. Any idea what it is?
Never seen that issue. Have you tried to reset the system?
@@rbk77 how to reset it?
@@sssbattleaxe hold power + error at the same time for like 10 seconds. Then turn off power in your truck with two switches behind the driver's seat.
Hey were you able to find the solution?
@arxxna turns out it's just a heater unit not an A/C unit.
hi , auxiliary battery not charging 3rd party dealer replaced auxiliary batteries 4 of them and i was okey 12 hour in cold weather after its stop. what it could be the cause ? i changed fuses under bed one . still same. not charging issue , should I go dealer ?
There are fuses inside the idle management system.
It can be many cases. Bad wiring, relay died or work incorrectly.
The batteries may be "sleeping". Check out videos about how to wake up deep cycle batteries with a car jump starter.
Mine are uder passenger steps
I have got scr/dpf under passenger steps :)
Are still happy with the system?
Yes, I am. Over 2 years have 5000hours+ on it. Considering the price of diesel these days it paid off itself surprisingly quickly. I had to refill the freon once which cost me $120, and that was it. Initially I was told that I’ll need to refill it in the first couple months since factory does not put a lot in the system for some reason.
I have a kw 2022 fleet. It doesn't have a way to auto start and keep you from driving your battery, if you sleep with radii on or a fan running all night..
Does it have KIMS?
@@rbk77 ?
@@moth450 Kenworth Idle Management System
@@rbk77 no. It's a fleet
What year is your t 680
2021
I just bought a 2017 T680 and am having issue with the KIMS….this is the most informative video on the system and how it works. Thank you for that.
@@xxlcajun76 That's what I ran into. I could not find anything on how to troubleshoot, reset, recharge the KIMS. I went to the dealership, and they told me 3 weeks wait time for simple to take a look at it, but they suggested I may need simply to charge the batteries directly (not trough the connection under the hood because battery management system will not charge go through to the aux batteries).
When my idle management system runs out of battery my auto start doesn’t kick in, anyone know why?
Do you turn On your Auto start manually?
my batteries are dead what kind of of battery apu needs?
Factory APU comes with AGM Deep cycle batteries
@@rbk77 if I put regular truck batteries will it still work
@@TheSpeedyr6 yes they’ll work, but will not last as long. Also how old were your original batteries?
@@rbk77 I just bought the truck it’s 2017 model previous owner had disconnected from bgm the batteries have have original napa batteries from 2017 sticker on it, I can’t even turn on heat from inside after connecting the wire
@@TheSpeedyr6 when you replace the battery don’t forget to reset the system
This system needs to upgrade igot same system and it’s always needs shop for repairs, igot same problem with auxiliary batteries I’m tired repairing the system, I going with Thermo king $ 15 thousand dollars, hope me luck,
Do they mention what's exact problem with batteries? The system looks pretty straightforward. Other than refilling freon it's pretty much super simple.
where do you go to get repairs done on it. mine doesn't wanna blow out heat anymore
@@oreoninja3035 thermo King shop
Most unhelpful trouble shooting video I've seen so far.
Thank you
Bro you don't know what good Apu I've had a Pete with the same Idol thing that you have it's a piece of s*** I'd rather get the Thermo King that goes outside that takes a little bit longer to install and its price your
Do you mean a diesel powered APU?