BETTER Than The Angelbird Atom X for the Ninja V for less that HALF the cost? Andycine Lunchbox.
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- Опубліковано 13 вер 2021
- In this video I walk you through putting together the Andycine Lunchbox. A mini drive enclosure for use with the Atomos Ninja V.
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Be sure to check out one of my recent videos for the PERFECT accessory for the Lunchbox, the Lunchbox USB C reader! ua-cam.com/video/kzaAu6pTba4/v-deo.html
Hi Gerald, I just have a question... what's all that for? Not having the ssd sticking out of the ninja or there's something else?
If you talk about cost saving, i would say that's not true, because it's plenty of fast sata ssd at very low price.
Thank you for the video and nice gloves btw
@@emanuelechiabert Thanks for the comment! In regards to the saving of money, I am actually comparing it to really the only other kind of drive with a better build quality and shorter length than the plastic sleds which is the Angelbird drives. But for sure, if you are happy with the plastic sleds and it sticking out the side of the Ninja, there are indeed plenty of good SSDs you can slide in there for pretty cheap. I dig the gloves as well!!
@@GeraldBertramPhotography Hi Gerald, I just saw this video:
ua-cam.com/video/awyrwB--hVU/v-deo.html
it's quite similar to what we are looking for: a shorter caddy, but this time with a sata drive instead of a m-sata(with adapter from andycine) which save even more money. Bye!
Hi Gerald, would you think the Samsung T5 2TB works?
@@jonathanbacs I haven't personally tried it but as long as the form factor is the same, which I believe it is, you shouldn't have any problem. If you try it please let me know how it goes!
Just got a 2TB T5 drive and a LunchBox, put them together in about 5min, no issues.
The LunchBox is built like a tank! Love it!
Thanks so much for commenting this! I've had numerous folks ask if the 2tb T5 would work with the lunchbox and now we have confirmation it does!
I tried with my T7 1 TB one, but the the format is different.
The 2TB T5 drive is the same as in his video so? :)
@@MaximeBommelle It is the same. Just make sure to remove the tape on both sides of the drive connector!
Does it clip your videos?
@@matt_pang Nope, works like a charm.
Thanks for showing this so candidly without cutting up the awkward fiddly bits...really clear and helpful
I appreciate you taking the time to comment! Thank you!
Thanks to your video, I purchased a lunchbox and a Samsung T5 which I have been using with great success. Loved it so much that I bought another one (what i believe to have been the last one in stock) from Amazon and tried a LEVEN mSATA SSD 1TB drive, and I can safely say it works flawlessly so far. Thanks again and keep up the good work.
That is great to hear! Thanks so much for the kind words
Just finished the assembly, thanks for the video! Much better than having the drive caddy sticking out the side.!
Thanks so much! I hope the video was useful for you. I really do love these little enclosures
I will try this when I buy another drive. Thanks for this video.
Thank you for making this video, this video is a gem!
Excellent stuff. Just in ordered a couple of lunchboxes and a USB-C reader. Have a few old T5s around.
BRO! You're a life saver! I had no idea this exist lol.
Per your request, (not sure if anyone else has volunteered the same drive information yet) I actually used the LEVEN JMS mSATA SSD 2TB drive. Using your demonstration as a guide, I found the biggest difference was the chipset on mine is actually on the other side, so the thermal pad went between the board and the SSD. There was room and no issues. Formated in the Ninja V just fine.
Thanks so much for following up! That is great to hear! I am going to make that recommendation to folks that want a bigger drive.
Brilliant solution, thank you Gerald.
I tried this procedure following you step by step! Thank you for this!!!!
Glad it helped and I appreciate you leaving a comment!!
WOW Geico could have saved me a lot of money!!! Thanks for posting this video.
I already hit the like and subscribed button.
Well what can I say? This is simply brilliant. Thanks
Thanks you so much, Prabhakar! It's always so great to get such a positive comment!
Love this video! Really helpful, thank you so much!
Thanks so much for the kind words!
Super informative. Just ordered a T5 and Lunchbox. Excited to put it to use! Sure beats the flimsy/ugly/chunky plastic carrier.
Thanks for the kind words! Totally agree about the drive. I think you'll be pretty impressed with the build quality of the lunchbox.
Many thanks for your thorough guidance.
I appreciate that!
thank you! I needed that video!
This was pretty spot on, thanks a million.
Thanks for the kind words! I'll soon be putting out a video covering Andycine's new Lunchbox II and III for different drive types.
Great vid can’t wait to convert mine , thanks again.
Thanks so much! Please let me know how it goes for you!
Great video I know there is a newer version out, but just installed two different 2T mSATA drives and the both work. I picked up $179 mSATA SSD 2TB SHARKSPEED SATA 3 6Gb/s 3D NAND and a $119 ROGOB 2TB mSATA SSD SATA III 6Gb/s Small Form Factor from Amazon.
Excellent video
Thanks for the kind words! I'm starting work on the next one for the new Lunchbox enclosures for different drive types.
Excellent,,,Superb…Presenting with all details. Thanks 🙏
Dude!!! Thank you!!🙏
Anytime! Glad you enjoyed it
I MADE IT!!! WITH THIS VIDEO!!! I LOVE YOU BRUH!!!!
Great video! Thank you.
Thank you for the comment! Glad you enjoyed the video!
Thanks for the video
Thanks for watching!
The angelbird drivers are harder to remove and I've even picked up some super cheap second hand and are def my go to. I don't mind the caddies, but the lunch boxes will need to be longer. Here lies the issue, when you have any of the addons like the AtomX or Connect, you wont be able to get teh drive out of the unit. I do see they have several options as well as an extension handle, but I'm not sure it's still long enough to get out. Nice to have options though!
woah, i might try this
i dont use a Ninja V, nor am i interested in modifying one of my 4 T5 SSDs that i use with the Pocket4k, but i always wanted to see the inside of one the drives, so, thanks for the interesting video :D
Thanks for always stopping by, Leech! Glad you found something of interest here. I'm relying more and more on the Ninja V and now having a more solid drive casing has been a big positive for me.
All works fine thanks.
Super stuff, just got a Ninja 5 and did not like the caddy stickout. Great demo.
Thanks so much! If you decide to get one I'd love to hear how it worked out for you. I'm still waiting to hear back from someone that it was a total fail because every comment I have heard from folks so far that have done it have been overwhelming positive.
I don't really see the problem with the Atomos 2.5" SSD caddy. It doesn't stick out any farther than the HDMI connector and actually provides a bit of physical protection for that connector.
To each their own I guess but thanks for the comment!
EXACLY!
This was a great video
Thank you for the kind words!
dude, you are way too hard on yourself. This was a great demonstration on how to do it. Learned a lot. thanks.
I appreciate the kind words and you taking the time to comment! I guess we are all our own worst critics! Plan on doing another one of these soon with the new versions of the Lunchbox that come in difference form factors.
I did this with the T5 2TB SSD. The only thing I don't like is how small it is. I'm glad it doesn't overhang, but I still wish it went to the end and filled up the entire allotted space.
There is another good reason for the smaller size: the monitor is not heating up as much, because of free space at the backside.
for anyone who has this issue: my caddy had glue or something in some of the screw holes so i had to use a toothpick to get it out so i could put the msata inside the enclosure
spent like 15 minutes trying to screw in the screws with no luck til i noticed it
Thanks for the heads up!
I just experienced this and came to the comments to make sure I wasn't breaking something. Thanks lol
Maybe I will buy an Atomos Ninja V in the future maybe not.
But I would not like the risk of doing this myself.
If Andycine offer their Lunch Box (Great Name! :) ) for 50% off meaning 200$ meaning 38 more dollars and they do it themselves and provide warranty I think much more people will go for it.
Nice video!
Thanks for the comment! I will say it was surprisingly easier than I thought it would be.
Great video gunna give this a go tomorrow, 1tb Samsung and lunchbox half the price is a no brainer, will let you know how it goes :)
Thanks and definitely let me know how it goes!
@@GeraldBertramPhotography all done the video was super helpful and all running great soo far thank you 🙏
@@ImmortalStrengthPowerlifting That is great to hear!
Just assembled my first one, have another one to do and then I'll have to wait for more drives. Definitely a more cost effective solution than the Angelbird drive. I have one of those. And I don't like the idea of the caddies.
Glad it's working for you! It's been a solid solution for me for some time now.
This looks really nice, although if the drive in the Samsung T5 is truly a standard M.2 2230 drive, the only physical incompatibility is the screws to keep the drive laying flat. In the T5, the drive has 2 small screws in the corners. It looked like the motherboard for the Andycine Lunchbox does not have a screw hole for a standard 2230 (center screw). That's a bit of a shame, a nylon locking pin would make for a toolless drive installation. The process to transfer the drive isn't too complicated, but it would be nice to just pick up the M.2 drive directly. That said, there aren't any speed concerns with M.2 drives since they are far faster than the SATA 3 interface that the Lunchbox provides.
it's not a m.2 drive. you need a mSata drive.
Nice tutorial. Thanks! Would this work with the 5,8 K 1,4 Gbps of the Lumix S5IIX and the Ninja Ultra??
The problem with the lunchbox is it's so limited and wasnt thought through very well. I mean a slight change to the inside and rhey coukd allow tons more iptikns but instead they limit them selves by making the fittings sp tight. Another issue is the rivits that are not flush to the casing making it incompatible with tje Connect and some cages. Then you have the problem of it being too short and heavy so that it doesnt have any support and after long use it actually starts tp javl up the connections.
I bought like 5 of them to my my 860 EVOs in that i had laying around but since i use the Atomos Connect i cant use them unless i modify them. They need to make some small changes and they would be great but as they stand now their kind of jist olay and a simple 3d printer job can and has been better for me
Ok, Are you recording voiceover as you do this or are you adding VO later? I feel like you are adding later which is interesting because you are animating your hands to almost exactly what you’re saying :)
Recording voice as I do it but voice over on B-roll of course.
How do you get the files off the drive into the computer usb c?
Yup. I have two. About to build a third
GREAT video brother , I ask you if you can use the SAMSUNG T7 Portable SSD 1TB - Up to 1050MB/s - USB 3.2 External Solid State Drive thank you very much
Fantastic video, i have ordered three of these now. Do you know if ther T5 would work at 4K/120fps? I note you said 4K 60 but how about 120?
I couldn't say. I just use it with the Ninja V, not the Plus, which makes out at 4k60fps.
Great video. What are you using to reads these drives? I have several master caddies and use a G-Drive Thunderbolt reader , but no way to fit these inside that thing.
So I was using the Atomos dock to hook up the drives to my PC but it ended up failing some time back. When I was researching a replacement I learned that those Atomos docs failed for a LOT of folks. I was told to grab the StarTech SATA to USB Cable off Amazon for $12. I've been using it daily for months now and have had zero issues with it.
@@GeraldBertramPhotography Okay thanks. Yeah I do have a sata to USB, but it's not the fastest thing in the world. I always use my G-Drive Thunderbolt 3 reader. It's like a cartridge though so won't fit these lunch boxes...if I can ever find them that is. None in stock anywhere.
Thanks for this video. I installed a Samsung T5 1TB drive in the Lunchbox and it seems to be working great. I love the form factor and low cost.
Do you know if this SSD would work with the Lunchbox?
SanDisk Ultra 3D NAND 500GB Internal SSD - SATA III 6 Gb/s, 2.5 Inch /7 mm, Up to 560 MB/s - SDSSDH3-500G-G25
I have a couple of these that I installed in Atomos SSD caddies for my Shogun Inferno and they also work with the Ninja V. So, I'm wondering if the SSD can be pulled from the case and installed into the Lunchbox.
Thanks for the comment! Unfortunately that won't work. The drive inside of those are a different form factor. There are some naked eSata drives you can from places like Amazon that I have heard some folks have success with.
Does anyone know if this is compatible with the Atomos V+ recording in Pro Res RAW?
Will it work with Samsung T7 drives?
Hi. Would any M2 sata work?
Thanks
How many minutes of record time do you get on average with various raw settings?
Is there a difference using a T7 drive in this lunchbox?
my place dosent have any kind of this housing of lunchbox sir. can ill place an oder?
Thanks so much! This is really interesting.. Next week i'm going to buy the S5 and Ninja V .. and I order an WD 1TB for the ninja.. do you try it?
As far as I am aware the only drives that works with this enclosure is the S5 and similar naked mSata drives you can find on places like Amazon.
Do you know if this would work with a Samsung T7?
had a good laugh with the comments in the video :))))
Thanks Klass and thanks so much for taking the time to comment!
Thanks for the great tutorial! :) Do you know if the same thing will work with the Samsung T7?
It will not! Because of security protocols
@@hmSlim
DO NOT GET THE T7 IT WILL NOT WORK OUT BECAUSE IT DOESNT HAVE M.2 SSD INSIDE , its all built in on one chip , i learnt the hard way :(((
Hi, Can I use it for my Atomos Ultra with storage taken out from Samsung T7 or with other mSata eg: ORICO mSATA Gbps 3D NAND SSD? Thanks.
will a T7 work the same?
Great video 👌👍!!! The Lunchbox is no longer available on Amazon via your link? 😪
Thank you! Yeah, it looks like they are out of stock at the moment. Like a lot of electronics I'm betting it's due to this whole global supply chain issue.
@@GeraldBertramPhotography Thank you so much for your reply, I appreciate it a lot and I like your videos a lot by the way 😊!!!
It's a bummer for me that this part of electronics is also affected by the global chip shortage 😔... I wanted to apply your method so bad but hélas.
I'll have to look for an alternative method though.
God bless 🙏
I would imagine I can use a T7 here as well, right?
Now they have Lunchbox version II that's even smaller and work with Samsung 860/870 SSD
I hope Andycine will make same case but for regular SSD like WD or Samsung Evo 8xx series. I can not find T5 or msata m3 on the market, because it's old technology.
I think they would have a problem with the form factor. It works with the msata drives because they are more of a square shape vs the longer rectangle shape of a regular nvme drive like a Samsung Evo. However I know the newer T7 drives while not compatible with the current Lunchbox, it is the right shape so hopefully they will make a Lunchbox that might work with that.
@@GeraldBertramPhotography i mean regular ssd 2,5” size. It’s same shape as WD and Evo. I’ve got both and did opened it to see what’s inside. Its almost same size as lunchbox, the only problem is matching screw hols to fix it. Samsung t7 is inside single piece. There is another alternative to make caddy smaller, search for “DIY ssd atomos ninja”. People are 3D printing caddy and mount inside ssd.
@@360fullhd Oh! Ok. I love that idea. I hope we can see different kind of drives in this Lunchbox style enclosure. If for no other reason just the build quality. Twice I have stepped accidently on my Lunchbox drive, and I'm not a light dude, and it didn't suffer even a single scratch.
The main thing I notice is now the vents on the rear have access to more air. Do you think the Ninja stays cooler?
I DID notice the vents! However it's been so long since I've used a full size caddy in it I haven't paid attention if the fans kick in less now. Might have to look into that!
Aight, bought it, tried it, A BREEZE :) Thanks!
Fantastic! Glad it worked out for you!
will the fit a Samsung 512GB 860 PRO?
Hi Gerald, I just installed my drive into my ninja. It works flawlessly, however, it doesn’t feel that snugged in. It feels a bit loose even though how hard I tried pushing it in. All the pins/ports are aligned. Does your feel that way? Thx.
Hey Matt! No, my Lunchbox fits in pretty well. However I do know that the drive connector on the Ninja V has a fair amount of play in it, device to device. The one in mine is fairly stiff. A friend I shoot with has one as well however his has quite a bit more play it in. My assumption is that there is some tolerance variance in the drive connectors in the Ninja V monitors. I have also heard from several other shooters about this. Just my 2 cents!
I just grabbed 2 new T5 drives for $70 each. With this case, it puts my storage at about 100 bucks each 😃
That is a KILLER price for those drives!! Well done!
from where? I need one asap
This is amazing thank you for sharing one question though does it work with T7. I have a 2 TB version of that it would be awesome if it does work with it
Thanks so much! So I have not personally tried with the T7. However, I know it is the same type of drive as the T5 (msata) so it SHOULD work. If you try it yourself please let me know how it works!
no it does not t7 does not has a msata drive inside.
@@yuxianwang3238 Really? I had another viewer say it was. I personally have only used the T5. What kind of drive IS inside the T7?
@@GeraldBertramPhotography T7 uses pcie protocol like NVME and it only has a usbc port on the board. there are teardown pic on the internet.
@@yuxianwang3238 Appreciate the info!
so i did this and it's awesome, but i also tried first a samsung T7, which i regret is not compatible. no sata connection inside, just the usb c soldered
Thanks for the info.
Awesome video! Question: why shouldn’t a different mSATA drive work? There are newer ones like the T7 which has even higher speeds….
I thought about buying a different naked msata drive to try but just ran out of time. As long as they have good speeds I honestly don't see any reason why you couldn't use another msata drive.
@@GeraldBertramPhotography I might try it. I too can’t see why it shouldn’t work as long as it fits and is fast enough…thanks again!
@@vr4ever645 Please let me know your results!
@@vr4ever645 did you get a chance to try the T7's?
SATA 6G is limited to 600 MB/s, so the T7 will be limited by the SATA port of the Ninja. Only by connecting via USB C, the T7 can be maxed out
the Lunchbox M-SATA is going to work with the samsung t7????
From what I have heard, no.
Gerald, I currently own two Atomos Ninja Inferno monitors. I'm current using the Sony Atom X 500GB Mini-drive for both of the monitors. I would love to extend my record time in the field. My question: Can I use the Lunchbox + the Samsung T5 with the Ninja Infernos. I purchased them when they first released because I knew they would be a game changer for many filmmakers including myself and they have paid for themselves many times over!! They are 7 inch monitors, big, bulky but they help me in so many ways and because much of my work isn't run and gun, they work as good as any record monitor out there! I'll take em to their grave. It also saves me tons of HD space because I can shoot in Pro Res HQ, 422, LT, etc... AND, I don't have to transcode files, doubling the demand on my drive space. So ... Can I use the Lunchbox + the Samsung T5 with the Ninja Infernos? Thanks for any help you can give me ... love the channel
From my understanding the Inferno uses the same 2.5" drive sled as the Ninja V. Now I don't have an Inferno so you would really need to double check that. If it is the same drive sled as the Ninja V, then yes the Lunchbox & T5 combo should work with no problem.
Do you know, or have you received any feedback of this Lunchbox/Samsung T5 combo working with the Ninja V + and supporting the new tier of specs i.e. ProRes Raw 8k 30fps 4k 120fps etc...?
Unfortunately I only have the Ninja V and I haven't heard from anyone that has tried it with those higher data rates in the V +.
Thanks for Your review. I´m using a USB A cable 3.1 Gen 2 to SATA by STARTECH. But there is no connection between the ANDYCINE and my computer (MAC Book Pro 2021). Which cable do You use?
I'm also using a Startech one. This is the model number of the one I am using: USB3S2SAT3CB. However this is on a PC. Maybe the one from Wavelink would work better for you since it's USB C: amzn.to/336QMwD
I forgot to mention that Andycine is actually making a USB C reader for the Lunchbox. I'm waiting for them to send to me so I can't speak to how well it works just yet. I plan on doing a quick review of it once it's available: www.andycine.com/usb-c-reader-for-lunchbox-sata-ssd-p3907845.html
it is hard to get the samsung t5 these days. does the samsung t7 work?
Unfortunately not. However AndyCine has now produced some new versions and one in particular will work with a Samsung EVO 950 SSD. Believe it's called the Lunchbox 2. I hope to do a video on it shortly!
is this the reason why Samsung T5 on amazon cost like 300 something now?
Ok so riddle me this, HOW in the heck are you able to record ProRes RAW with the GH5s? I have the GH5ii & the GH6 and every time I try it says I am not connected to a device that can do it. So am I missing something?
The last update to the GH5S, about a year ago or so, enabled that specific camera to output ProRes RAW to the Ninja V. Not sure about the GH5II or the GH6 as I've never actually had my hands on those.
INTERESTING !Is there a 4 or 8 tb option that has been proven that does 4k 60 prores raw?
Not that I am aware of. I personally have only done this with the Samsung T5 but I've heard from a couple other folks that have used some generic 1tb mSata drives with success. If you do find out about any larger drives that work with it please let me know!
I know some ssd boards are larger because 1 tb wd blue inside works w atti bear caddy like size your showing but 4tb wd ssd board is larger and wont fit. I know cf express came out 4tb and angelbird makes an adapter low pro but 1600 for that option rn. If i know ill post. Thanks
Hi! Does this work with T7 too?
Unfortunately not, just the T5. However AndyCine now has a Lunchbox II that will work with certain Samsung NVME drives.
is it possible to do the same thing using Samsung T7?
Unfortunately not. The T7 is a bit of a different form factor so this enclosure won't quite work.
Does it clip your videos? I heard that some ssd can cause break up videos into clips.
Haven't had any issues, works just fine
Nope, so issues with any clipping here!
I have the same great looking stuff (T5 in Lunchbox) build and working correctly BUT its showing me the Skippy Frame Kangaroo in the Ninja V when filming 4k30……does this happen to you too? I‘m using the Atomos HDMI cable. Its okay with 1080/60. I now ordered the T7 to check if its faster….
Interesting. I can say I have had zero issues with this setup and no Kangaroos in sight. That being said I HAVE seen Kangaroos when using the Atomos HDMI cable shooting in 4k60fps ProRes RAW with my GH5S. Changed over to my Kondor Blue HDMI cable, as well as my ZILR cable, and the issue went away. You might consider picking up the ZILR 4Kp60 Hyper-Thin High-Speed HDMI Secure Cable since it's only $20 and see how that works first.
SATA 6G is limited to 600 MB/s, so the T7 will be limited by the SATA port of the Ninja. Only by connecting via USB C, the T7 can be maxed out
@@knobi3760 So any idea why his T7 is skipping but is T5 isn't?
The T7 is NOT compatable. USB-C controller soldered to the board
work with samsung pro evo 860 ?
No this is just for small form factor mSata drives.
yeh, and now samsung quit making 860 pro, and all you got left is sony and angelbird with their mac prices! and Atomos still using ssd? i just bought the Ninja Ultra, and found this out. Luckily i have a few 860 pro.
would a t7 Samsung work better than the t5? do you know anyone who uses that set up?
So I have heard some mixed results on how well this works. Someone said it worked another another person said it didn't. What I can say is due to the interface you won't see an increase in performance in using the T7 over the T5 assuming the T7 would work anyway. My 2 cents is to stick to using the T5.
Hi, i read somewhere that the Samsung T5 can't write 10 bit RAW 4:2:2, is this true?
Nope, not true. In the video I was recording 12bit ProRes RAW HQ.
@@GeraldBertramPhotography yes It goes 12bit prores but that was a result by blackmagic speedtest if i remember right, 12 bit prores yes but not 10 bit RAW. I can't find that test, i'll be very happy of you can do because with my D780 i can only use 10bit RAW 4:2:2 and before buy this beautyfull solution i have ti be sure it works as a WD Blue.
Exellent video by the way, very helpful to see how to setup It in detail 😁
@@gigohsq Are you talking about the Nikon D780? If so I believe that camera can just output 10bit 422 log footage, not RAW. The data rate for that is going to be lower than 12bit ProRes RAW HQ so the T5 shouldn't have any issues keeping up. Keep in mind doing this conversion here, we are getting rid of the USB C interface controller and using a SATA controller now so you should get speeds that meet or even exceed the throughput of something like the Western Digital Blue.
@@GeraldBertramPhotography very clear and helpful, thank you very much 🙏🏻
T7 works with this or not anyone tried?
Great idea! However, it seems that because of the high demand for the T5 the price went up so high that now it is over $300.00! Too late!
Will this work for the Samsung T7 2TB?
I have never tried it however here is what I have heard from some of my viewers: The T7 drive has a pcie protocol like NVME and not mSata like the T5. This tells me that it wouldn't work. Again, I have not personally tried it so I can't confirm this info 100% correct.
@@GeraldBertramPhotography thank you Gerald. I actually opened up the T7 and it is completely different from the T5. The T7 have a different insert port than the T5 which mean it will not be able to connect to the lunch box. 😔 I figured I go ahead and see how it look and hopefully it’ll help someone else who is wondering. Thank you very much for your help.
@@outdoorhabits Thanks so much for replying! Now I finally have confirmation that it won't work. I appreciate that!
3:33 That's what HE said! 🤭
It looks better too
It's cheaper than the Anglebird, but it's still cheaper to go for the 2.5" SSD + Atomos caddy.
Very true! But as I mentioned in the video I didn't want a drive hanging out the side. To be honest it more an aesthetic choice because functionally there is no issue. I just love having my drive tucked away on the back of the Ninja. Plus this Lunchbox is just so incredibly solid. I've literally stepped on it twice and not so much as a scratch.
@@GeraldBertramPhotography That was one detaili was happy with about the Shogun, the SSD with the caddy actually fits snug against the back. Not a loose disaster waiting to happen.
@@tomastuoma I hear ya!
can you format the T5 with Ninja V ?
I don't believe I did when I first installed but I don't see any reason why you couldn't.
@@GeraldBertramPhotography i cant format my T5 on Atomos that why am asking if you have a same issues, can you make a try?
@@angnguyenphucminh3959 What happens when you try? Do you get an error message?
@@GeraldBertramPhotography its say failed to format. i use samsung T5 and WD blue 500gb
@@GeraldBertramPhotography now it dont recognize my ssd anymore
Do T7s work?
First let me say I have not personally tried a T7 drive. That being said I did talk with the folks at Andycine and they told me that any mSata drive, which the T7 is, should work in this enclosure.
@@GeraldBertramPhotography Okay great. I wonder if we lose any speed from the T7 by running straight msata vs using the T7 housing and board. Not sure if there is some voodoo in the T7 housing and hardware that speeds things up. There is a big difference in speed in the T7 compared to T5 normally, but not sure if that is preserved. If not, then there is no point on spending extra dough on the T7. I do know that both T5 and T7 get MUCH slower once they start to fill up. I suspect the T5 would fail if recording RAW as they approach capacity. The T7 might as well.
@@SheldonCharron That's interesting to hear about them slowing down when they reach capacity. Sounds like something I might try and test out. Is this something specific to mSata drives or do standard SSDs suffer from the same issue? I'm fairly sure it's the exact same mSata interface inside the original casing of both the T5 and T7. The T7 is likely using faster chips on the board if there is a big difference in speed like you said.
@@SheldonCharron SATA 6G is limited to 600 MB/s, so the T7 will be limited by the SATA port of the Ninja. Only by connecting via USB C, the T7 can be maxed out
@@knobi3760 that’s what I thought: so no point in spending more on the T7
Do not get a Dogfish Technology drive for this. I bought one in July 2022, they changed their name later to Sharkspeed. Bought because I watched another video where the guy said any old drive would work. I installed and formatted the drive. Recorded a two minute video in 6k prores raw. Video was fine. Got to my shoot and halfway across the country and good ole Skippy was showing up on my monitor. The monitor freaked out and started recording endless 1 sec clips. When I could record more than 1 second the image was grainy and jittery. Had to do my shoot on cards. Got back and ordered the lunchbox ii w/ Samsung 870 Evo. Works flawlessly. Went back and ordered a Samsung T5 for original lunchbox. Moral of the story, use Samsung drives, the budget drives from Amazon may say they have the same write speed as Samsung drives, but in practice they do not. I'm outside the 30 day return window and trying to return the Dogfish Drive (now Sharkspeed), not sure if they will take it because the seller has to refund now. I can return to Amazon but with a $17 restock fee.
Oh man, I'm so sorry to hear you had to go through that. There is nothing worse than having gear fail on you while on set. I REALLY appreciate you providing your feedback here. I'm asked this specific question about drives all the time so now I know to only steer folks toward the T5 on the original Lunchbox.
@@GeraldBertramPhotography appreciate the reply! I would highly recommend getting the lunchbox ii w/ the 860 or 870 Samsung drives from here on. The original lunchbox with the T5 drives end up being a bit more expensive as the T5's are more rare now so the price has gone up, unless you find a deal. The lunchbox ii also has a better fit into the back of the Ninja Monitors. Happy shooting all!
Aesthetically fantastic but speed doesn't affected.
100% correct. There is no speed difference. Just changing the enclosure.