Best MK1 Engine Swap?
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- Опубліковано 30 гру 2016
- This question came in a while back, about What I think the best engine swap for a MK1 Volkswagen would be. There are an infinite number of cool engine swaps out there.
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I'd go for a 2.0L 8v "AEG" from a Mk4 Golf/Jetta into a Mk1 Golf. Very capable motor, responds well to bolt on's and you can always boost it later on with a supercharger or turbocharger.
I'd prefer the obd1 ABA if I could find it, came stock with forged crank, double valve springs and oil squirters
I like that you mentioned the 1.4 I think the new generation of Vw motors have lots of potential and they can make power very easy. The next few years will be very interesting in the Vw world when it comes to motor swaps.
haha! dug this up today and I love the end charles! actually going to go ALH soon :)
Oooo, I like the 1.4 turbo idea.
I am in the middle of a R32 swap into a 1994 corrado. My dream car. Be done in two months
is it done?
Done yet?
Hell Yeah I am!
@@lucasvanhamburg4937 yup
It’s still FWD. I put a unitronic tune on it. Shortened oil pan, full exhaust, all the vr6 add ons. Black Forrest industry’s motor mounts.
I like my MK6 2.5L.
It has the IE intake & cnc valve cover.
I have a knife edge crank & IE rods & high comp pistons for an all motor build.
Should rev pretty well.
My 82 vw rabbit truck is going under the knife for a 2008 Audi A3 3.2L motor. Pretty excited to drive it.
HELL YES!
Tuned ABF. Keep up the videos.
Cost-no-options choices for an early Mk1 (currently on my back burner; a '76) are between a current model 1.8 T and a twin-charge 1.4 from the Euromarket Scirocco. Actual motor plans are to integrate a G-lader onto a 1.8L 16V. Time and budget will tell though…
Hey Charles great video. I like how you went into all the details of the different type of variety of engine swaps. If I were to go with the engine swap it would definitely be the 3.6 liter 24 valve VR6 engine that's my favorite engine ever! I always liked the sound of the VR6 and the 3.6 liter magnifies it! Do you have any recommendations about this type of swap in a Corrado things to look out for or things not to look out for? All details are highly appreciated thank you!
Swapping in a SVT Focus motor into a regular focus this year.
I'm planning to put an ALH in my 73 Baja
So I would agree TDI swap mk1 would be a blast
I'm also wanting to put an ALH into a blazer chassis and put my b5 Passat wagon on top
back in 1990 i remember swapping a 3A engine (from Audi 80) into my Mk1 Cabby :) At the time i don't think anyone had done it (at least not that i had heard of). i still have that Cabby stored away.
I have the VW Passat GT (B3) 2.0 in my Mk2, with the Mk2 16v head.
Currently in the process of doing a mk1 longitudinal 1.8t swap from an Audi A4. Quattro awd and everything. Not surprised that it isn't on your list considering the amount of fabrication ahead of me in addition to the fact that I don't think many have done such a swap. Curious to hear your thoughts and experience on the 1.8t :)
VR6 all the things! Love my Mk2 AAA swap but if I had do something different it would definitely be something battery powered
Funnest engine swap I've done was swapping a series 2 L67 supercharged 3800 v6 and 4T65E into my 1990 Pontiac Bonneville. Car was a blast to drive in the dirt.
Hey humble mechanic. what's your overall opinion of mk1 reliability and cost to keep running?
i had a AFN on mine but only switched to ARL because i had a good deal, sometimes it's the most important factor :)
I own a mk1 i would really really love to put a SR20ve engine in it someday,good combo
*cough* LS swap *cough*. I'm very biased, i drive a beat up c5. Love the videos man, even though i'm not a huge VW guy, and have very little knowledge on euro cars, you've helped me learn a lot about stuff i'd probably never otherwise been exposed to. Keep it up! And i'd probably try to squeeze an LS9 in a 69 Chevelle SS
I'm looking tp pick up a MK1 Caddy (pickup) and was thinking either 1.8t, 2.0, VR6...which plaform do you guys suggest? Ive owned and built up a VR6 in a mk3 GTI and MK5 2.0 turbo in the past loved both of them.
I’m put a 9a 2.0 16v (out of a 92’ Jetta) with 45 DCOE Weber carbs nutted up to a 020 5spd in a 76’ Scirocco! Started for the first time last week, it’s a beast.
Love your channel! Watched the MK2 Scirocco swap all the way through. That was epic. I live on the east coast of Florida and will probably reach out to Jamie for alignment and tuning if her does that. Cheers 🍻
Had this setup in a mk1 4door, was absolutely crazy!!!
I had a mk1 with a 16v swap on .45 Weber carburetors. The sound was intoxicating.
Dropping an AHU with a tune and a t25 turbo in my 83 Rabbit.
Wanted to do ALH, but the Jetta I'm ripping the engine/ecu and trans was to cheap to pass up. Keeping it electric also (should be fun to figure all that out) Was a 1.6d guy, sold three of those motors I had laying around. Project's on hold until I move, sadly. Going to be a rather nice autoX car. (that low end torque!)
I think that was my question from like a month or two ago.... and yes my name's Gregory.... but for me it would be either a m-tdi in a mk1 pickup or a aba/16v(abf clone) running on obd2 aba management with a bbm charger in a awd swapped mk2 jetta. I'm actually currently working on getting parts for both swaps. problem I'm having is finding a awd o2a... all I'm finding is o2o and they won't handle the 350 hp the motors gonna do.
How difficult is a 16v swap for a "1st time ever" engine swap?
What are your thoughts on ITBs on a 16v and keeping it running right?
I have a REALLY CLEAN 84 GTI that I want to keep "period correct" if I ever do a swap so I feel like I'd want to do either a Callaway Turbo Kit or a 16v if I ever decide I want more power.
definitely want to see a PD diesel in a mk 1/2. There was a 150bhp version that went in the GT TDi that would be awesome. The common rails were never as good as the PDs, much softer.
Outside of VW I'm thinking of putting a Cummins into a Holden Commodore for a wheel spinning sleeper.
Badgertronix
tempted to swap the 2.0pd from the wife's wrecked 2004 Passat into my 79.
It's already got a mechanical ahu that runs a 14 flat and isn't trying very hard, but I want some solid 13s.
Either that or her car has to go soon, it's taking up space I need.
Love the Diesel ideas! But I'm biased. In the middle of a 2.0 passat BHW engine into a 1984 Scirocco.
Also one engine combo you didnt mention is a 2.5L 5cyl. A bit bigger of an engine that will pose headaches. But I think they are a great fun engine ( in the mk5 rabbit. Dunno about in a mk5 or mk6 jetta)
Whenever I get the space and money I will be putting in a 420 hp 350ci in my grandfathers 71 c10 long bed pick up truck!
I dunno what swaps people are doing these days...but the most interesting swap I ever saw was back in the mid 80s in Australia. It was a classic Mini ('77, I think) with the clubman front sheetmetal...with the engine, transaxle and running gear from a 2.5 Alfa Romeo GTV6. The engine fit very nicely in the front, since the gearbox was in the back (it was converted to RWD to retain the original Alfa layout) - although there wasn't much of a trunk left afterwards. The outside looked pretty stock, other than 13" rims and relatively modest arch flares. Sounded awesome, drove very well - what a sleeper. :-)
Would love the 1.4T In my New Beetle. A modern reliable alternative to a 1.8T for someone who isn't crazy about going SUPER fast and just wants a fun daily that gets good MPGs.
Apparently it already mounts to the transmission so that's a big chunk of the work done already.
Currently have an 83 Rabbit GTi that has a bad fuel distributor. Instead of trying to source a new (or rather used but working) distributor on that old 1.8, I am thinking about throwing a 1.8T out of a MKIV in there!
im in the process of putting a 20v 1.8t in my mk1 jetta
HeyItsSway very slowly but same here
I’ve got a mk 1 Cabrio and i really wanna do a 2.5 from a mk 7
going for a aaz or ahu in my mk1 jetta but havent decieded yet have both engines so one in my mk1 and one in my mk2
I'd love to put a 2.5 TFSI or R36 in my MK6 GTI!
my suggestion would be a 1.8 turbo with 150, 180, 190 or 225hp. what would be more interesting may be the 1.9TDI ARL. delivered in 115, 130, 150hp or in a SEAT cupra 160hp. seen a build of a mk1 golf with a 115hp 1.9 TDI out of a mk4. it even had the climatroninc working
I would definitely put a VR6 in my MK7, the TT it
Doing a flat top focus 2.0 swap into an mk1 rabbit plan on running boost and the 6 speed getrag
I have a MK1 Scirocco and I think it'll get either a MK4 1.8T (AWP) or maybe an ALH. both respond well to a few mods, and could buy an entire donor car for cheap.
hey love the vids......uhm mk2 with 1.8t in it would be awesome....plenty of powerplants available so they're cheap and plenty of aftermarket for em too
I cot a mk2 with a 1.9 tdi AHU. It rocks
I did a AAZ swap on my 1.8 petrol Mk3 Golf wagon and it was the best thing I've done so far. Plus a TDO4 turbo off a Subaru and a few other supporting mods and it goes pretty well for what it is. I get 500+ miles to a tank of diesel and being in the UK it stands up to a few sport apec modern hatchbacks.
SaTaNeAtChEeSe IV that turbo bolted up?
I know it's kinda old video. but I have an aba swapped 83 gti. I want more power. I'm stuck between vr6, 1.8t, or 2.0 16v build with an aba block. I'm kinda leaning towards 1.8t.
vr6 into a mk2 gti with a tune maybe a turbo
1982 vw rabbit pickup 1.9 alh swap with cummins mechanical pump
2.1 litre 8v with 42/36 Eurospec 8v head, Shrick 280 asymmetric cam, and a custom Twin Screw Supercharger :) 200 lb ft at 2000 rpm.
I had fun fitting a heavily modded Engine from a 968 Turbo S into my '87 944.
But I would love to get a Mk1 caddy and drop an ALH in it and play around with that.
Easiest swap with most gains is 8v to 1.8 16v with CIS on MK1 and MK2 cars.
I'm about to begin a 1.8t swap n my mk1 rabbit gti
id really love to build a 85' Scirocco with a boosted vr6 with a sequential gear box.. perhaps 4 motion??😉
Honda S2000 motor into 83-86 Cougar XR-7/Thunderbird Turbo Coupe. Great 4cyl mill into a car that already has a turbo 4.
2.5 5 cylinder from a newer rabbit with a 5 speed manual trans if its gas powered. 1y naturally aspirated diesel idi engine with a triple k turbo at 6 psi. Pulls 70 mpg with a .71 freeway flyer gear in a 020 5 speed if its diesel.
I've always thought of dropping a v6 twin turbo and transacted into the back of an old rabbit. that would be a sweet sleeper.
One engine swap that u don't see anymore are the '91 16v 2.0 ... In my opinion vr6/turbo aba/turbo/supercharge and so forth are all played out... It would be nice to see a 16v 2.0 or a 8v 1.8 all motor ...
I'm actually working on doing a 16v abs build with itbs
Follow me on insta @pprmnt_cabby
@@fox-and-ted-gaming1723 It doesn't pop up. I'd be interested in following, mines @silvershareholder
Hi, I have a 1.6 fsi jetta mk5 2006. whats the easiest, least hastle engine swap to do on that, to get a faster engine
hello, I have two quick questions and I hope you'll be able to help. my sister got her first car (2000 Volkswagen Beetle with the 1.8 turbo and automatic trans) she was in a minor accident like no one got hurt or anything. but after the accident her car wouldn't start. so my questions are
will a p0411 code cause the engine to not start? and since the car was hit on the passenger side front could that have cause a problem withe secondary air pump?
+Kyle Rouh no that shouldn't cause a no start. I don't think that fault would have anything impacted by the accident
My dream is to have a Mk2 Jetta Coupe. With a Mk3/B3/B4 dash swap. I'd either go with a 2.0l 16V, or if I had the $ a 3.2l VR6.
I have an 81 pickup with 66k original miles but can't get the 1.7 to run was considering swapping the engine. But with it all being original and I'm 2nd owner with 66k. I don't want to lose value. Any suggestions?
1.8t into a mk1 or mk2 love the awp
Pretty sure that was me in my Odyssey behind you. I always brake for VWs in my Honda
Nice
Rotary in 4c or lotus elise or mx5 na or rabbit...something that will notice the weight diference
Anyone know where to find the vacuum hose that goes from the csv to the crankcase vent to the air box (looking for the hose from the crank to the box) on a 87 Jetta gli? Went to the dealership to see if they could order it.....but apparently it's been discontinued. Bad thing is as well it's covered in RVT and just bugs the piss out of me.
Id like to slap a passat w8 with a beefed up transaxle setup under the hatch of my 84 wolfsburg scirocco. with exhaust exiting between the tailights, and the license plate. turbo as well
a swap I think is cool is one I've liked sense highschool R32 mk1 a swap I've been itching to do is a 2.7tt into a fiero with a FWD 01E transaxle
Im thinking of putting an ls in a Mitsubishi Mirage witha rwd conversion
Hey, I like your videos! Maybe if you happen to read this, you could answer me a quick question.
I've got a '91 Jetta GLI with the 16V 2.0L engine. I had a blast driving it around until it suddenly died on me. I absolutely hate mechanical fuel injection. So it's been sitting for a while as I've been trying to figure out what I want to do with it and save up some money. I've narrowed it down to two options, both of which will require swapping the transmission because I just don't want to rely on the 020 to handle the power I might throw at it.
My first option is to turbocharge the 16V engine. I love turbos and I'd probably want to make around 350 hp or so, so I would likely be going through the engine, replacing pistons and rods, porting the head, etc, in addition to fabricating a turbo manifold, intercooler and piping, and of course making the car run on EFI. Most likely I'd choose a Megasquirt for this. Seems rather straightforward with 2 major bonuses: I already have the engine, and being a 4-cylinder, replacing parts in multiples of 4 will be cheaper than the other option.
But, I've always wanted to do an engine swap, and I'd kind of like something a bit fresher and smoother than my 317k-mile 16V engine. Enter the 07K (aka the 2.5L inline 5). I love the way it sounds and there's a decent amount of bolt-on parts that would make for a compelling engine swap, I think. The engines themselves are pretty cheap, and Fabless Manufacturing makes a kit to help drop the engine into the Mk2. I have thought a lot about this option and I've pretty much settled on the fact that if I were to go this route, I'd keep it pretty basic to start, just get the engine running as it is stock, really only needing to fab up an exhaust, and drive it around that way for a while to see how it really drives. I can then add bolt-ons to it and maybe if I really want to, turbocharge it in the future.
Now here comes the question: for some reason, I thought the earlier 2.5L engines had aluminum blocks. I recently came across a video where Hank from Iroz explained some things about the 07K and he mentioned the earlier ones had iron blocks. But he's also using RS3 engines for a lot of his builds, so I got a little confused. Did the Rabbit/Golf ever get a version of the naturally-aspirated 2.5L engine with an aluminum block? I was kind of bummed when I realized these were iron block engines. I would kind of prefer an aluminum block for this swap since the engine is physically larger and heavier. I know adding a turbo to the 16V would add some weight as well, but I would think it would be far less weight than swapping to an iron block 07K.
Sorry for the lengthy comment and I appreciate if you happen to read it. Thanks!
Not sure on the block. I thought all the VW 2.5 were cast iron. But I could easily be wrong there. The 2.5 is becoming a very popular swap. You can get the super cheap. it's about the only cheap VW engine right now. What about a boosted ABA? Or a 1.8t from a MK4?
@@HumbleMechanic Thanks for the answer!
I'll be honest, the 1.8t never really did it for me. They're fine and all, but I've always preferred the sound of the 16V engines. Plus, I feel like if I'm going to build a boosted 4-cylinder, I may as well just use the 16V engine I already have.
But the 2.5 is a really tempting option. I think I'm just not going to worry about the block and just see how the car feels with a mostly stock 5-cylinder. It's a really light car so I'm sure it would be a lot of fun. Then more go-fast goodies can come later on as necessary.
My dream to have e30 BMW with 2jz but at the moment I got mk5 r32
Ford EcoBoost twin turbo V6 into a 1970s Chevy El Camino.
Alternatively, W12 Phaeton engine into a MkII Jetta wagon!
I'm hoping to get a B18 or K20 in my gen 2 Civic.
James Basoo b18b would be easier
I'd love to take the SDI engine out of my polo and swap a 170 HP bora engine in would be really fast
1.8T is a nice easy swap but a 2.0 16V ABF is fun little car to have. All the right sounds. Done it.
If money was no option R36 turbo AWD golf mk1. 🥴
Vw v10- diesel in a mk4 Jetta Ute pickup with stacks
On the topic of engine swapping. I have a 2000 F-150 5.4l Triton v8 laying around, being useless. Engine is scrap metal. I want to put a Toyota 3.4l V6 out of a 99 4runner in it. How should I go about this? I'm pulling what is left of the triton and the trans out. When I put in the 3.4lV6 and the trans, will I need to swap just the engine management, or will I need to swap the vast majority of the electronics over?
Oh man you’re probably going to have to swap more than ya think. Engine management for sure. Plus other modules may need some help the Honda ABS is going to be looking for the Honda ECM
@@HumbleMechanic more or less I want the truck to run and drive. I'm not worried about ABS since it is just a helper system and I don't drive recklessly. Not saying it wouldnt help just I don't find it necessary. If need be, could I fool the system? The plan was to swap the engine with a manual transmission into the truck, along with the engine management, ignition switch, and bypass the security on the Toyota ECM
R36 4 motion mk1 would be hard but damn would it be amazing
VR6 for my Caddy with AWD. Dream big, right?
Volvo t5 turbo in a vw Jetta. Lots of fab required but it would be sweet
I have a mk1 cabby Vr AAA and Mk2 tdi ahu
off topic to the video but Charles, i just wanted to get your scoop on how VW is doing right now and how diesels have effected your dealership.. our shop, for the most part, is completely dead. techs are making anywhere ranging from only 50-90 hrs per pay period (bi-weekly) when we're usually flagging 90-140 hrs. our sales side has been taking a huge hit as well, went from 100+ car sales to maybe 40-50 mainly being non-vw used units. we actually laid off quite a few employees this past week.. is it like that across the country or only at my dealer? ive been thinking about jumping brands actually. it really sucks because i use to like my job. located in highly populated city in Texas for reference.
+Potato Skinz we were a little busier the 2 weeks around Christmas. But for the last 10 months we are the same as you.
I feel exactly like you do now. Thankfully we haven't had to lay anyone off, but it's been really hard. I took a 25% pay cut 2016 over 2015.
Duramax into a suburban, LS1 into my 91 Toyota Pickup, 1.8t into my mk1.
07K Turbo or twin charge if it will fit.
What kind of engine could easily be swapped into an mk1 tt
Dream would be vr6 24v turbo forged internals with a built 4 motion setup. But realistically probably gonna go 1.8t... thoughts ?
Both can be awesome swaps. I think the 1.8t is a little cheaper. Until turbo upgrades come. Lol
Got Mk1 Caddy, looking for something interesting to put under the hood. :)
G60, or a dog
Mk1 ABF 2.0 16v with ITB throttle bodies
I weirdly would love to swap a 1.4t from a 500 Abarth into a mk1 Golf.
Allison 250-C20B turboshaft into my Mk3.5 Cabrio. 420hp in a 160lbs package. Fuck that ABA.
I'm in the process of sticking in a 502 Chevy in my mk2 jetta
Followed, hope we see a video of it.
for a diesel mk1 te best is slap a turbo on the orginal 1.6, 1,6td from golf mk2 and turn the bitch up. or like i've done in my mk1 caddy AAZ 1.9td from golf mk3. every engine with the orginal golf mk1 mounts from mk1 upto mk4 golfs are pretty much drop in. you may need to use a golf mk1 gearbox sometimes to make it fit better but the 02a gearbox fits like a glove and can handle some power. My dream for my caddy would have to be a 2.0L diesel from like a mk5 golf, or maybe a skoda octavia z1 vrs (like I have as a daily now). maybe 4wd or rwd just for fun. Petrol, AEB is the easiest and cheapest. 16v, bulletproof. but vr6 turbo in a car thats 850-1050kg. would be insane.
I'm not good with wires at all, so my build is going slow atm. have a buildpage on facebook aswell. and waiting for parts. I need a waterpump pully from a vr6 or early 90HP golf mk3 engine to make the belts work, deleted factory powersteering and AC. My old mk1 golf I had a plan for golf mk1 gti bottom end and scirocco H2 top. and weber 32/36. but sold it before I got the chanse (kids).
Still want a mk1 vr6 . Do you have motor mount dimensions? Here in RSA with the really poor exchange rate. Ill need to make my own .
Sadly I don't have those DIMS. I really with I did LOL
@@HumbleMechanic . Thanks for getting back to me . Ive got a bunch of pics off line but its a bit hit and miss to set them out . But i guess thats half the fun
Money no object: A Chrysler 300 with a V10 TDI swap!
dream swap: mk2 5 door golf 3.6 turbo vr6 with a quattro
As a 20 yr VW technician, something odd and different, for me, would be a 4wd, Tesla swap into a mk1 Rabbit Pickup.
That would be rad
I'd love a mk3 vr6. I'm thinking of swapping out the 2.5 in my ranger for a new ford 5.0 coyote motor.
The ranger and S10 v8 swaps are stupid fun to drive.
sparkplug1018 my boss at the dealer I used to work at about 16 years ago had an 87 ranger with a 351 Windsor tubbed out. Bad ass truck
Chris de Haan Way back before I understood half of what i was doing I dropped a 350 Chevy into my S10. Was so much fun, wish id tubbed it before i had to sell it though.
I got a mk1 rabbit with no motor I’m curious what’s some of the easiest/cheapest engines that could fit in the engine bay.
ABA is hands down the cheap and easy swap
1.8 turbo from a doner mk4 Golf or Jetta would be the cheapest way to go. You can pick these models up here in California for a song.
Hey I have a 2000 TT 1.8 what's the best swap, or should I just build the 1.8
Build the 1.8!!! 😎
I would like to swap a mk1 vw caddy with a VRT
2JZ... for any Metal body :P
If money was no issue I'd love to put a LS engine in my '86 Daihatsu Charade.
opel manta gt/e coupe with a xe36gett lotus carlton engine :)