UPDATE!*** It's 3 months later. I completed the program and I had a lot of fun!!! I used a single 28kg. Took a break after the program. Only thing ive been doing is loaded carries with double 34kg and going on long walks around my neighborhood. Started this again but with my double kb. I feel amazing and excited. i usually finish it with 2 hand 48kg. or deadstop 60kg
This variation looks awesome. I had great results when I did RoP a couple of years ago. I just hit the Simple standard again, so this will be a perfect follow-up.
Today I started this ladder programming with decline weighted push-ups, weighted inverted rows and KB swings. I think it might be interested. If you ask why the change in exercises, it is due to my fused wrist and plated bone so I am not able to press or snatch.
Like others, I struggle with training time. 10 x 1,2,3 ladders, or the higher number of 1-4 and 1-5 ladders + snatches is going to take too long for my training time. I like to do 2 days a week of 1 hand, 2 hand or snatches using the AXE protocol. Do you see any issue with doing the 3 days a week of Jurassic ROP and 2 days a week of AXE (for the ballistic portion)? My line of thought is to limit the progression with AXE, keeping that as ~100 reps per session, while moving forward with ROP. I can't wait to try Jurassic out. It's been a few weeks since I completed ROP and able to press a bigger bell since that time.
Amazing video thanks. I take it that you wouldn't expect to necessarily expect to add a ladder every single session? Otherwise it would only take around 5 weeks.
That's a very interesting variation, I can see it work better than the regular program as addition to my MMA training. Peaking with heavy days every week is + combat sports is really taxing.... 3 questions: 1. What about additional pull-ups and maybe goblet squats, in the same manor as the presses 2. If I decide to go swings instead of snatches, do I change the weight? 2H swings with a weight for 10 rep snatches seems very light. 3. If I decide to go swings, do I still follow the 5x20 rule or classic S&S 10x10?
I've been on the program for some time now and loving it! Since it really can be time consuming, can you do some (or all) reps with double bells, too? Since it's a lot of effort on the lower body, maybe skipping the snatches that day would make it reasonable?
Just to clarify - every workout we add a ladder. This is different than the traditional Rite of Passage where we have a light, moderate, and heavy day every week, correct? Thanks!
Thank You for this video. Is it at all possible to do this program on the military press with a heavy kettlebell weighing, for example, 44 kg? It seems to me improbable to make a ladder at the end of the program with such a load. Do any of you have such experience?
I would be grateful for an answer if this program is suitable for achieving a kettlebell weighing 48 kg, or is it better to choose some other program, if so, which one
this is good stuff! I personally do prefer Neupert's "The Giant", as it's an even simpler approach to the same thing, basically - that also incorporates auto-regulation. Can't go wrong either way, I guess!
Awesome! My MR with the 24kg is currently 4 presses. Yesterday, I completed 3 ladders of 1,2,3,4,5 with the 20kg, total of 90 reps. Do you think it's the right time to start the Rite of Passage and start the ladder with the 24kg? Thank you!
@@HardstyleKettlebellPro thank you so much for this wonderful tip and your passion! I really find your videos very informative as I’m preparing myself to get the SFG1. I’m taking the time. Quality over quantity.
@@HardstyleKettlebellPro I started running it with doubles, and alternating rungs with weighted pull-ups (like the original ROP) LOVE this training block so far!
The ONLY flaw I have with this programming is the time each training session starts to take - I love the ladders, the process, and the movements - but my goodness I don't have 2+ hours to train regularly. At 5x(1,2,3) using doubles, alternating with pull-ups, and including the 100 snatches, I am already closing in on the 45-60 minutes I have available to train (during my lunch breaks). Similar issue with the traditional ROP, just a huge time investment in the more advanced stages of the program.
Thank you for this Louka! I just completed the full cycle with the 20kg. Just took a week off (did S&S with a 24kg during the break). I'm gonna do another cycle of Jurassic ROP, this time with the 24kg starting today. I would like to do S&S for 3 days a week with the 24kg, on top of ROP with the 24kg for 3 days a week. Is that too much? What about 3 days a week ROP and only 2 days a week of S&S? Would that be smarter?
Great video, thank you! One question: I don’t understand how the program will last 12 weeks if the progression is to add a ladder each session. You will reach 4x12345 in about 6 weeks, no? Or am I missing something - is there an element of autoregulation for example? BTW I found this confusing in Rite of Passage as well - some people swear it is a 12 week peaking program (adding a ladder per week), others interpret it as a longer term ‘add a ladder when ready’ approach. Appreciate your thoughts.
Can I ask: what is your recommended way to break through plateaus with RoP? So let’s say I finish a cycle but cannot press the next bell for 5. Repeat the previous cycle? Go back a few weeks? Thanks in advance 🙏
What do you mean by Jurassic? Will similar to RoP, you’ve changed it up quite a lot. Not sure if that’s intentional or if you misinterpreted the program
RoP is from the book. Jurassic is only accessible from the StrongFirst 101 workshop. Jurassic is the preferred path of progression. KB 101 also has 2 more programs moving into heavier KBs.
And also why is there no mention of the light and medium day? This seems very linear progression. Does the Jurassic program cut away the light and medium days?
@@riley-6324 It does scrap it. You can add them if you like. Do like it's written in RoP using Jurassic concepts such as working each ladder to 60 over multiple weeks. Last, do grinds and ballistics on different days.
Think this may be my favourite program ever
Coach. You are providing one of the best content in the entire youtube on fitness and strength. Thanks.
I appreciate that!
One day cp fb snatch
Other day snatch fb cp
Another day cp fb snatch
Just three workouts per week
I love the way you teach brother thank you
What an excellent and thoughtful update to the classic RoP!
Wow, that explains another in a short space of time! Thanks for mate. 😊
UPDATE!*** It's 3 months later. I completed the program and I had a lot of fun!!! I used a single 28kg. Took a break after the program. Only thing ive been doing is loaded carries with double 34kg and going on long walks around my neighborhood. Started this again but with my double kb. I feel amazing and excited.
i usually finish it with 2 hand 48kg. or deadstop 60kg
Excellent video coach, thank you!
Great complex and easily understood thank you
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This variation looks awesome. I had great results when I did RoP a couple of years ago. I just hit the Simple standard again, so this will be a perfect follow-up.
Today I started this ladder programming with decline weighted push-ups, weighted inverted rows and KB swings.
I think it might be interested.
If you ask why the change in exercises, it is due to my fused wrist and plated bone so I am not able to press or snatch.
Awesome explanations!!
Great, easy to follow explanation. Thank you so much :)
Good advice
This channel is gold👊💪👍 Highest quality content, no fluff
Love it!
Thanks!!
Interesting variation. Seems more “fun” then the original RoP progression. I like how the ladders change
Like others, I struggle with training time. 10 x 1,2,3 ladders, or the higher number of 1-4 and 1-5 ladders + snatches is going to take too long for my training time. I like to do 2 days a week of 1 hand, 2 hand or snatches using the AXE protocol. Do you see any issue with doing the 3 days a week of Jurassic ROP and 2 days a week of AXE (for the ballistic portion)? My line of thought is to limit the progression with AXE, keeping that as ~100 reps per session, while moving forward with ROP.
I can't wait to try Jurassic out. It's been a few weeks since I completed ROP and able to press a bigger bell since that time.
AXE + ROPJ is PERFECT
Excellent video & instruction. What should I do if I stall?
Repeat the same ladder a few times, or back track several Ladders and build up again
Thank you!
Amazing video thanks. I take it that you wouldn't expect to necessarily expect to add a ladder every single session? Otherwise it would only take around 5 weeks.
Yes you can add a ladder every session
That's a very interesting variation, I can see it work better than the regular program as addition to my MMA training. Peaking with heavy days every week is + combat sports is really taxing....
3 questions:
1. What about additional pull-ups and maybe goblet squats, in the same manor as the presses
2. If I decide to go swings instead of snatches, do I change the weight? 2H swings with a weight for 10 rep snatches seems very light.
3. If I decide to go swings, do I still follow the 5x20 rule or classic S&S 10x10?
1. Pull-ups yes, GSQ: 3-5x3-5
2.yes
3. 10x10
@@HardstyleKettlebellPro thanks!
What about squat?🤔 Can i do them on off days?
100% yes
I've been on the program for some time now and loving it!
Since it really can be time consuming, can you do some (or all) reps with double bells, too?
Since it's a lot of effort on the lower body, maybe skipping the snatches that day would make it reasonable?
There's a few options. 1. Do doubles like you said. 2. Split the session in 2, some morning, some evening. 3. Snatch on another day
Just to clarify - every workout we add a ladder. This is different than the traditional Rite of Passage where we have a light, moderate, and heavy day every week, correct?
Thanks!
Correct!
@@HardstyleKettlebellPro can you substitute single arm rows or something else for pull-ups?
@@danmchugh1420 yes
I can’t find an article at the SF site for this. Is there one?
No article. Just insider's info.
If you compare classic vs jurassic which is more efficient in your opinion?
Both work really well
Im starting this today.
How many pullups do we do between sets of clean&press?
The same amount
Would you advise not doing pull ups after the cleans and presses?
Do them in between sets of C&P
Thank You for this video. Is it at all possible to do this program
on the military press with a heavy kettlebell weighing, for example, 44 kg?
It seems to me improbable to make a ladder at the end of the program with such a load.
Do any of you have such experience?
Depends on your Rep Max
@@HardstyleKettlebellPro my maximum military press is 44kg, but without very much effort
I would be grateful for an answer if this program is suitable for achieving a kettlebell weighing 48 kg, or is it better to choose some other program, if so, which one
Pullups in Jurassic is also ok?
Yes sir
I'm 60 with terrible joints. Is this workout for me?
Maybe not...
this is good stuff! I personally do prefer Neupert's "The Giant", as it's an even simpler approach to the same thing, basically - that also incorporates auto-regulation. Can't go wrong either way, I guess!
Awesome! My MR with the 24kg is currently 4 presses. Yesterday, I completed 3 ladders of 1,2,3,4,5 with the 20kg, total of 90 reps. Do you think it's the right time to start the Rite of Passage and start the ladder with the 24kg? Thank you!
Complete 4-5 ladders of 1,2,3,4,5. And you should be ready the following week
@@HardstyleKettlebellPro thank you so much for this wonderful tip and your passion! I really find your videos very informative as I’m preparing myself to get the SFG1. I’m taking the time. Quality over quantity.
Would you add variety days similar to the original ROP? How would you program them?
Yes definitely. Do them on other days.
I don't see how 2 exercises can work every major muscle group in the body. Please explain.
Have you ever experienced a Hardstyle Plank?
Hi coach, It's the clean and press program suitable for double's?
Yes
@@HardstyleKettlebellPro I started running it with doubles, and alternating rungs with weighted pull-ups (like the original ROP) LOVE this training block so far!
The ONLY flaw I have with this programming is the time each training session starts to take - I love the ladders, the process, and the movements - but my goodness I don't have 2+ hours to train regularly. At 5x(1,2,3) using doubles, alternating with pull-ups, and including the 100 snatches, I am already closing in on the 45-60 minutes I have available to train (during my lunch breaks). Similar issue with the traditional ROP, just a huge time investment in the more advanced stages of the program.
Suggestion: Take out Pull-ups to reduce time, and /or split up session in 2 parts with 4 hours in between.
I remember seeing your problem with the original plan on the forum. An suggested solution was to do presses and snatches on different days
Thank you for this Louka!
I just completed the full cycle with the 20kg.
Just took a week off (did S&S with a 24kg during the break).
I'm gonna do another cycle of Jurassic ROP, this time with the 24kg starting today.
I would like to do S&S for 3 days a week with the 24kg, on top of ROP with the 24kg for 3 days a week.
Is that too much?
What about 3 days a week ROP and only 2 days a week of S&S? Would that be smarter?
Follow the classic template.
Clean and Press 3x a week
Snatch/Swing 3x a week
Get-Up on Variety days 1-2 a week.
How you plan it is up to you
Great video, thank you! One question: I don’t understand how the program will last 12 weeks if the progression is to add a ladder each session. You will reach 4x12345 in about 6 weeks, no?
Or am I missing something - is there an element of autoregulation for example?
BTW I found this confusing in Rite of Passage as well - some people swear it is a 12 week peaking program (adding a ladder per week), others interpret it as a longer term ‘add a ladder when ready’ approach. Appreciate your thoughts.
Repeat the process over again with heavier Kettlebell with 3x(1,2,3). So 2x 6 weeks cycles
Thanks 🙏
The 60 for c+o and 100 reps for snatch is it per arm or total ?
Can I ask: what is your recommended way to break through plateaus with RoP?
So let’s say I finish a cycle but cannot press the next bell for 5.
Repeat the previous cycle? Go back a few weeks?
Thanks in advance 🙏
Retest your RM with the same kettlebell and readjust your ladders for the next cycle. See my last video (2 methods for hypertrophy) on how to do that.
What do you mean by Jurassic? Will similar to RoP, you’ve changed it up quite a lot. Not sure if that’s intentional or if you misinterpreted the program
RoP is from the book. Jurassic is only accessible from the StrongFirst 101 workshop. Jurassic is the preferred path of progression. KB 101 also has 2 more programs moving into heavier KBs.
@@ianelliott8720 so does Jurassic scrap the swings from the heavy and medium days and replace with swings?
And also why is there no mention of the light and medium day? This seems very linear progression. Does the Jurassic program cut away the light and medium days?
@@riley-6324 It does scrap it. You can add them if you like. Do like it's written in RoP using Jurassic concepts such as working each ladder to 60 over multiple weeks. Last, do grinds and ballistics on different days.
Waveness in in the program. When you increase the ladder from 1,2,3 to 1,2,3,4 you decrease number of sets