Is this Vintage SEAMASTER still capable of CHRONOMETER Accuracy??
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- Опубліковано 14 лип 2024
- Full service of an Omega caliber 1109 movement. This 21 jewel 28,800 bph movement is actually the ETA 2892A2. It features a quickset date, hacking seconds and is hand windable. Omega used these movements until it was replaced by the 1120 in the mid-to-late 90s.
I also give the case and bracelet a little love. This decades old watch was a certified chronometer. Will it still perform as well as it once did when it left the COSC test lab?
If you're looking for an incredible watch repair or antique restoration project, be sure to check out my video! I'll show you how to fix this vintage watch and get it back to working order.
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Contact info: cspinnerwatchrepair@gmail.com
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Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
1:45 Baseline Timegrapher
2:12 Disassembly
11:26 Cleaning
12:11 Start Assembly
25:08 Assemble Calendar Works
28:20 Assemble Automatic Works
31:12 Continue Assembly
31:43 Case Work
34:31 Complete Assembly
38:59 Timegrapher and Finishing Up
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I am fortunate to have had Mr. Spinner repair my 1957 Rolex. I’m grateful for his attention he gave my watch since it was born the same year as I was. Thank you again Chris.
What a beautiful watch. And so easy to work on. thanks for the video!
I know nowadays people think Rolex is the "gold standard" (my terminology) for a classic modern watch, but honestly, to me at least, i think these Seamasters have it beat by a looong, long shot. I happen to have both brands from family relations and i think the Seamaster is much more pleasant on the eye. And since i've started servicing them myself to keep the collection running, i also find the whole operation to be slightly more pleasant (tho that's more than likely just my own bias).
Regardless of that, great watch and a timeless (pun intended) piece. I think these will be fashionable even in a few decades from now. Whomever penned the casing design really hit the ball out of the park in my opinion. There's something both simplistic and complex about it at the same time and it's very tastefully done. I've seen other brands try to emulate the feel, but they just can't hit the mark (which is why probably both Rolex - classic and this are so loved).
That ramble out, Happy New Year!!! Here's to a 2024 that brings good things to you and yours + more subscribers! :)
All of the watch repairs you showed are very nice and of good quality that’s an Awesome looking watch…👍👍👍
Nice job! Having inherited 3 Seamasters from my Dad (older modesl) it's interesting to watch the disassembly, servicing and rebuild.
What a beautiful job you did on that watch! Thank you so much for doing the play-by-play on the lubrication of it, that’s still the one part that I’m trying to understand. (I’m turning into a rank amateur watch smithing person)
Bold move keeping the old mainspring when aiming for chronometer standard, but you pulled it off. Lovely work and video.
My wife gives my seamonster a tune up every weekend.
Gotta stay up on preventative maintenance! 🤣🤣🤣
I really enjoyed watching this servicing and restoration. I think that you performed just the right amount of restoration to the case and the bracelet.
Why do i hold my breath so many times during this lol
The watchmaker I have used for my Omegas upkeep over the last 20 years has my Bond SMP keeping to with in -2sec per MONTH. It’s the craziest accurate watch I have ever owned. Pretty sure it has the same movement shown in this great video. Awesome service!
Nice work, as usual. It was good to see a 'modern' movement being serviced for a change as well. :)
Kudos to the owner for handing you a clean watch.
Designs by Rolex and Omega make a difference. All of the screw holes are recessed. That's huge. I didn't notice the difference until I was working on an old watch and I started putting screws in and not being able to get them started. LOL
Great skill and knowledge is in full view here, CS. Very detailed refurb/servicing. Loved the canned laughter when you dropped a part, I got a good chuckle out of that! Cheers.
My Heuer Autavia will be enroute to you next week.
Another great video. I’m on a roll! I like that you’re not looking for a new finish. Lived in but loved. Excellent.
Very nice time piece,thanks for your time and skills.
Another great video Chris. Amazing to see how many more parts are involved in a modern automatic compared to a vintage pocket watch. Very informative and enjoyable to watch
I have a watch with a similar ETA 2895. While not a chronometer, it is an incredibly accurate mechanical watch. Nice work, as always.
A True Master.
Thank you for sharing this excellent video on UA-cam: 👍👏👌! While the watch is running nicely, I do miss the typical copper-plating of Omega watches: it is so beautiful to behold.
Great job, Chris! I love seeing Omega's movements come back together… Everything seems to go into place with purpose. A very handsome timepiece, with just the right amount of refinishing. Kudos!
I miss the use of the angry Beaver claw but this was the next best thing. Have a great festive season and keep well from New Zealand 🇳🇿
Another great one Chris! Laugh track at 8:05 is hilarious! May I assume that is the first part that you ever dropped? 😂😂😂
lol sure. And I’ll pretend like I don’t have a giant magnetic wand in the bin next to me 😉
Awesome job
Thanks for sharing Chris, I also enjoyed the talk with Dylan and Mike....😀
Gorgeous watch and well done on the work.
Great work & a classy watch too .
Nice job Chris. Always a joy to see your work.
Brilliant job as usual!!!!!!!
Great job dude very informative and entertaining 👍
Really nice one Chris, I love Omega products and movements, this ETA is so well made, I appreciate quality with seeing this excellent video !
Final product is amazingly mint ✨
Thank you for sharing, and I don’t want to forget my wishes for 2024, all the best for this New Year to come !
Best Regards Chris ! 🥂
Another great video! Thank you very much.
Wonderful video, beautiful watch.
As always, beautiful job and a gorgeous watch, one of my favourites!
Wonderful Sir lovely job.
Strong work!!! The case turned out killer! Really loving your channel, just found it a couple weeks ago. Great stuff🤜🤛🤘🤘🤘🤙🤙
Cool video as always
Beautiful movement. Great job servicing it. I found the Chinese mainspring winder sets quite limiting, since they are caliber specific. I would find the right barrel size but then it would have too small of a hole to fit the needed arbor size. Fortunately, you can modify the barrels. I drilled out some to accept larger arbors, essentially turning them into equivalents of the Bergeon generic winders. I did also add the Bergeon #6 and #8 arbors to give me arbors up to 3.5 mm.
New subscriber. I’m enjoying your videos
Mine gussl The new watch is great! I've praised its realism many times. I really recommend checking out their selection.
Now you've made me want to go and buy a Seamaster. The finish and aesthetic of the design are amazing.
I can't say for certain, but I think those are quality inspection indicators on the mainplate and automatic bridge. Likely added by the subcontracted manufacturer.
Thanks for the tip on the lubeta substitution.
This is one of the first watches I ever servist when I was doing my degree at Birmingham School of Jewelry. Its was my watch but it wasn't an Omega but a Eterna-Matic so I payed a lot less but still, but still has Chronometer Officially Certified. I find I need to adjust the time about as often as I put the date right
Mine does not have numbers or symbols hand made on the movement plates. Some of the scratches look like they are made by heavy handed reassembly.
I enjoyed it alot
The “R” is for Omegaaaa-R! 😂
with your capable hands.
Nice
Possibly a bit wider spring bar could take out the motion of the end links. Nice job..
Someone needs to send Chris a nice watch WITHOUT a broken balance staff.. HAHA
Geez it must cost a fortune to get your heirloom watch serviced by such high quality craftsman.
Chris, may I ask something?. This was a fun restoration, but where can I learn more about the intricacies of how to actually adjust to five positions?.
That's what I want to learn more about but can't seem to find anywhere that goes into detail. Cheers, and keep up the cool videos. :)
I was going to ask the same thing, but since you've already asked, I'll wait for an answer.
This site will teach the fundamentals of various adjustments. For a chronometer certified watch, aside from basic balance poise, it comes down to tolerance of the parts. Perfect end shake and side shake of the pivots in their bearings. Consistent oiling, etc. dynamic poising, which you can find on the site, is the ultimate way to eliminate positional inaccuracies assuming every thing else in the movement is healthy. adjustingvintagewatches.com/what-is-watch-adjusting/
@@csspinner Thanks much, C. Good egg! :):)
Really enjoying your videos. I’m a two year veteran amateur watchmaker at age 64😂. What part of SC do you reside? I spent a lot of my youth working construction in Rock Hill and Georgetown. Had a lot of fun riding my motorcycle to Isle of Palms and enjoying the seafood and cold beer 😂
I’m in Fort Mill, actually!
That case sure looks very similar to a Hamilton Khaki King.
Hello, thank you for such a detailed service video. I have this watch ,can you please tell me the size of the back case warshal and crown seal size .it has problems with water proofing?
Secondly my watch repair person has many times set its time on this watch time grapher machine but some how it can’t be set to zero difference. Mostly +55 or - 35 . Great deviation on minor adjustment with screw adjuster. Any advice ? . Thank you.
Hi, i Watch this video from Chile. You are very good Watch maker. Spanish, Is relojero. Watch in spanish is RELOJ i am Héctor
Awesome video, great watch also. BTW which tools are you using for the case opener and the winder? You mentioned the winder is Chinese but now steel tip?
The opener is pretty generic and I believe I got it off Amazon. The winders are from China. Here’s an example and I believe you can find them on AliExpress as well. www.ebay.com/itm/394893281395
Thanks for the info, much appreciated. Keep on making great videos like this one.
😍❤💯🥰
Hi Chris,where did you buy your winders from.Paul
The seller I used no longer has them, but this set looks like the same one. www.ebay.com/itm/394893281395?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=hk0n5pmqtbw&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=V2e9kwldSgu&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Where did you get the tweezers with the plastic fingers? I've been looking for a set.
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The one I bought is no longer available
Chris, beautiful result, as always. Question, is it true that the 2892-A2 can have either the date or the chronograph but not both? I have a Breitling Hercules, ref A39363 with the ETA 2892-A2, and it has the chronograph function but no date.
Good question- I’m not sure.
@@csspinner well, if you’re interested in doing a comparison, mine (2004 purchase) has only ever had one service is well overdue.
If it's a chronograph then it would be the 2894-2, which is the 2892 A2 with a chronograph module.
@@garyboyle695 Mine says 2892-A2, not 2894-2 and it's a chronograph.
got a link to the winders?
I believe these are them. You can also find them on AliExpress. www.ebay.com/itm/394893281395?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=hk0n5pmqtbw&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=V2e9kwldSgu&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Thanks @@csspinner . the watch looks great. Nice service job.
4 to 6 seconds a day for a Swiss certification? That's it? I thought it was around one second.
It's more complicated than that, as CS alluded to. It's a mean of positional variations and different temperatures. Isochronism needs to be good. Balance poise has to be perfect. Balance system materials need to be largely immune to temperature change or compensate for it. The mainspring needs to supply as near to perfect consistent force as possible. The train needs to transmit that force as consistently as possible. The lubrication has to be exact and the right oils used in the right places. As CS discovered...the only thing needed on this movement was a proper clean and lubrication to restore its performance. This he achieved.
That figure is a worse case at all extremes during testing, it means you get better than that in real life.
@@stevewilliams5428 The testing is done on perfectly new movements though. They don't need servicing. They're new.
@@GentlemensWatchServices That would make more sense. If I buy an Omega I would want it at around 1.5 seconds at worst, on my wrist, for at least the first 8 months. Is that asking too much for 8k Canadian?
@@roytofilovski9530 I'm aware of that.
Chronometer accuracy, sure. Railroad accuracy, probably never
Those engraved #'s might just be a test to ensure that you didn't just swap out the movement with another, since they're strategically hidden in an obscure location that you'd only see if you had indeed pulled the movement apart fully.