I remember that promotion from when I was a kid. One of my cousins kept trying to get my uncle, a non smoker, to buy a carton of Viceroys so he could get the watch. He even offered to give his dad the money for the smokes. My cousin had saved his money from haying season so he could get the watch. My uncle wouldn't budge. I don't know if he ever got his watch. I think the main reason my uncle was against it was because my cousin about 10.😂 That is a beautiful movement and a handsome watch.
Using 9504 in this movement is essential imo molly DX dries out much quicker than 9504, you’ll notice this when you get a watch back for service the 9504 merely wipes away but DX becomes like a tacky paint on parts and it needs pegging off before a wash. Well documented tutorials on this video mate well done. 😉🙏👍
Another great video Chris. The intricacies of these chronograph movements is amazing. Glad you could get it back into working order and entertain and educate us in the process. And thanks for showing us how you keep track of all the parts. I’ve always wondered that.
Absolutely the best videos on wat h repair. Nice closeup photography, seamless editing, all parts explanations and a watch maker who may be a lobbyist but works like a master. Thank you
Watched from beginning to end! So many ooohs and aaahs...im a Swiss Machinist by day and horology is a hobby I've recently started. Thank you for the video. The detailed explanation on oiling points and types is invaluable.. Super thanks for the explanation of the chronograph module and driving mechanism. Made a lot of sense.
I have this same watch. I now esteem it greatly! You are a brilliant and amazingly skilled watchmaker and an outstanding teacher as well!! Thank you so much for this wonderful presentation!
Another nice service video! I appreciate that you leave in the minor assembly order mistakes, and that you show a little of the 'fiddling the pivots into the jewels' footage instead of editing it out. At least one person I know replaces the screws in the chronograph during disassembly to avoid service manual eye strain and general head-scratching during reassembly. :)
I remember that specific promotion. At the time, I smoked; but, it wasn't Viceroy. I actually thought about buying a carton to get one; but, thought better of it. I guess I ought to kick myself in the ass. Sure would like to have one now. Heuer was actually fairly affordable back then. That may have been part of why I didn't decide to take advantage of it. In any event, nice job on the chronograph.
Hello , Nice movement commenting whilst watching cal 12 . I have a cal 15 . Developed from project 99 back at the end of sixties . A Buren 1281 base movement with a depose module also used in the cal 11 , 15 Valjoux 7740 . Parts are rare . However I found the parts I required for a Bolova using the Buren movement . I found on mine the power lose was in the train lack of jewels . Very nice watch my is by JRG & k who designed the chronograph module
Thanks for the great restoration video. I definitely enjoyed it and welcomed your pointer about separating the parts and its screws for better tracking and installation later. Excellent idea. Always had a question on how do you keep track of it all, but this answered it. Also thanks for pointing out the different oils and grease to be applied on the movement. It can get complicated but you made it easier to follow .
Drilling out mainspring winder barrels is the trick that I did as well to my cheap Chinese winder set. Working so far for me. Good service on that movement. I'm not quite to the point to take on servicing a chronograph.
I also have one of those watches, however mine has the link watch band. I bought it new and wore it for well over 20 years. I remember going to Service Merchandise to buy it. I was 17 years old and worked as a bag-boy at a grocery store. I saved my money to buy it and was thrilled with it. I need to have it serviced and would like to keep you in mind for a servicing if that is ok with you…
Many years ago i owned 2 of this watch, hiding micro rotor inside is unique but also a strange and difficult task for many watch repairers, they either refused or ask a service fee higher than that second hand watch ! i sold them, now i in great regret 😭
Wig-wag sandwich😆 The oscillating weight was interesting. I don't work with wristwatches that frequently, so not used to seeing a rotor/weight that doesn't sit on top of the assembled movement. Top notch video and restoration Chris. 💪
Spinner between your amazing lathes and fixing watches with issues. You have that “Macyver” skill, keep up the good work. Guitar string springs, missing screws, plus a wheel with missing teeth.
Fantastic work, as usual! :D Also I totally expect you to post a video on April 1st with you masterfully repairing a *really* vintage timekeeping device - y'know, an hourglass? :D
Really enjoying your videos. Thinking about trying my hand in watch repair. But I’m 58 not sure if theirs any point. I’m a machinist and cutting tool maker, and seems like it would be a great hobby, but my age is something to consider. Once again really appreciate you sharing your experience with us and taking the time to make the videos!!
I'm 59 and I've been buying tools to take up watch repair, and I'm taking an online course. It's got to be done. Next step is some movements to practice on.
Please consider working on a "Hebdomas" "8 day" pocket watch as I would like to see you work on a watch where the mainspring takes up all the space on the back of the watch.
Throughout America, we have a lack of competent, skilled watchmakers. It’s sad we have to send our watches out in the mail for proper service, because we often can’t get it done locally.
Great video, I'm sad that I can only hit the like button once! 😢 Did you consider trying to straighten the bent pivot? Not sure how hard that is, but you seem pretty game for those kinds of challenges.
Amazing work! Did you do anything to remedy the plate wear from the sliding pinion? I was scanning back through, but may have missed that. Absolutely splendid work returning this beautiful watch back to full functionality!
Looks like the setting wheel spring was not fully seated when you installed it. At around the 25-26 min mark? Thanks for another Great video. Very informative. Always like your videos
Great video, Chris! Question: I noticed that you measured the amplitude before fully assembling the calendar works and chronograph. Does the friction in those systems not impact amplitude?( I've been buying a lot of books on watchmaking to try to answer questions like this myself but I haven't read them all yet! 😂😂😂)
Great question. The changeover complications like calendar and chronograph recorders are instantaneous and do not drag down amplitude to any meaningful extent. As for running the chronograph, the turning of the center runner wheel also does not cause a measurable decrease in amplitude when probably lubricated
How do you get the peg wood small enough to get into the smaller jewel holes? I serviced a 6498 movement and had trouble with this on the smaller holes. I used a very sharp knife, but the point was so fine that the knife took the tip off, and it wouldn't fit. I tried sanding it, but that didn't work so great. I also bought a precision pencil sharpener, thinking it would work well for this. However, the tip of the sharpener is made specifically for the harder pencil lead, so I was left with an odd tip with a long bit of wood hanging from it. I'm considering sanding the wood down, but have heard that you want it to be cut so that the sharper edges grab dirt and debris, providing more of a scrubbing action. Maybe I just need to use something like a razor blade to sharpen it? That way the tip isn't pushed on with that much force? It seems you have to get such an ultra fine point to be able to get the tip actually into the hole of the smaller jewels. Any suggestions?
You get the point “fine enough” and after a few rotations with very light pressure, it gets deformed and a tiny tip is impressed within the hole. I’ve never been able to create that tip with a knife alone. It happens during the pegging process itself
@@csspinner I'll have to try again. I figured it would form itself, as I've seen that in your videos before. However, mine just kept breaking. I could get the 2nd & 3rd wheels, but not the smaller ones down the gear chain.
@@k-ozdragon I find mine break most often in the smaller holes as well- like the balance and pallet hole jewels. I need to make extra sure I’m using the lightest of pressure and keeping the peg completely vertical at all times. It isn’t the easiest thing to do
@@csspinner When that happens, do you just sharpen the tip & try again? Or sharpen it, peg a larger hole to form the fine tip, & then try again on the small one? I know that this step is very important to clean out the jewel holes.
I basically chose the winder arbor I wanted to use, the one that would actually hook the spring properly. Then I chose the winder barrel that would fit my mainspring barrel. Then just drilled it out to fit the arbor
In terms of being more precise when oiling the pallet fork jewels, I’m curious about your thoughts on the 12m to 18m section of ua-cam.com/video/ydSoQlXr_gU/v-deo.htmlm
Thank you for the excellent service to my prized Heuer!
The height of charity - wishing those who didn't learn anything in the video that they at least enjoyed themselves!
Clearly your level of attention to detail far exceeds that of a typical 'service' centre. 👏
Amazing technology for the time, what a shame that only watchmakers can see those beauties.
I remember that promotion from when I was a kid. One of my cousins kept trying to get my uncle, a non smoker, to buy a carton of Viceroys so he could get the watch. He even offered to give his dad the money for the smokes. My cousin had saved his money from haying season so he could get the watch. My uncle wouldn't budge. I don't know if he ever got his watch. I think the main reason my uncle was against it was because my cousin about 10.😂
That is a beautiful movement and a handsome watch.
Wow, that is a complicated watch, not for the faint of heart when repairing.
Interesting as always. Fascinating to watch you disassemble and diagnose the problem.
Nice to remember the 'hidden' third wheel pivot. Easy to overlook I guess...
Finally, a watch that isn't stone simple. Now this is a treat to watch for a gal used to mucking about with cars.
Using 9504 in this movement is essential imo molly DX dries out much quicker than 9504, you’ll notice this when you get a watch back for service the 9504 merely wipes away but DX becomes like a tacky paint on parts and it needs pegging off before a wash. Well documented tutorials on this video mate well done. 😉🙏👍
Absolutely all around top notch. Fascinating movement, endless interesting design elements. Enjoyed every second of that.
Another great video Chris. The intricacies of these chronograph movements is amazing. Glad you could get it back into working order and entertain and educate us in the process. And thanks for showing us how you keep track of all the parts. I’ve always wondered that.
Absolutely the best videos on wat h repair. Nice closeup photography, seamless editing, all parts explanations and a watch maker who may be a lobbyist but works like a master.
Thank you
Watched from beginning to end! So many ooohs and aaahs...im a Swiss Machinist by day and horology is a hobby I've recently started. Thank you for the video. The detailed explanation on oiling points and types is invaluable.. Super thanks for the explanation of the chronograph module and driving mechanism. Made a lot of sense.
wow! Beautiful work, beautifully filmed. Love the use of non-scratching tools.
You're more like a rocket scientist I can't believe some of the precision work you do
I have this same watch. I now esteem it greatly!
You are a brilliant and amazingly skilled watchmaker and an outstanding teacher as well!! Thank you so much for this wonderful presentation!
Great work and great video. Thank you.
Nice work. Nice to see that mainspring barrel work 😀
Wow! Looked terribly complicated and expensive to me, and it really is... My compliments for dealing with such a monster :)
Phenomenal job Chris
Great work as always Chris the best service that this Watch has had no doubt, keep well from New Zealand 🇳🇿
...this movement is surely one of the milestones in watch development history 👍👍
Thank you for this most instructive and enjoyable video on a beautifully filmed service of a spectacular watch: 👌👍👏!
Once again. A really enjoyable demonstration of knowledge and skill. The commentary is a bonus. Icing on the cake. Thank you
You have the dexterity of a surgeon. Bravo, Chris! Wonderful job!
Another nice service video! I appreciate that you leave in the minor assembly order mistakes, and that you show a little of the 'fiddling the pivots into the jewels' footage instead of editing it out. At least one person I know replaces the screws in the chronograph during disassembly to avoid service manual eye strain and general head-scratching during reassembly. :)
Great video! I appreciate the technical info and back story you add in your narration. Thanks so much.
The Force is strong in you, young Jedi. Soon enough, you will be performing neurosurgery!
Another mesmerizing performance, CS. Cheers.
Very relaxing to watch you, I do realize it may not be relaxing for you.
*Showing the ending time grapher results--is a necessity for this type of show.*
I remember that specific promotion. At the time, I smoked; but, it wasn't Viceroy. I actually thought about buying a carton to get one; but, thought better of it. I guess I ought to kick myself in the ass. Sure would like to have one now. Heuer was actually fairly affordable back then. That may have been part of why I didn't decide to take advantage of it. In any event, nice job on the chronograph.
Great job on a beautiful movement. Still love my Omega 321 however.... 😊
I like your use of a soldering mat for parts organizing. I can use that for both watchmaking and electronic work.
Hello ,
Nice movement commenting whilst watching cal 12 . I have a cal 15 . Developed from project 99 back at the end of sixties . A Buren 1281 base movement with a depose module also used in the cal 11 , 15 Valjoux 7740 . Parts are rare . However I found the parts I required for a Bolova using the Buren movement . I found on mine the power lose was in the train lack of jewels . Very nice watch my is by JRG & k who designed the chronograph module
Thanks for the great restoration video. I definitely enjoyed it and welcomed your pointer about separating the parts and its screws for better tracking and installation later. Excellent idea. Always had a question on how do you keep track of it all, but this answered it. Also thanks for pointing out the different oils and grease to be applied on the movement. It can get complicated but you made it easier to follow .
Nice work!
same watch was also offered through Porsche dealers, i bought one $88.00. wish i still had it.
Drilling out mainspring winder barrels is the trick that I did as well to my cheap Chinese winder set. Working so far for me. Good service on that movement. I'm not quite to the point to take on servicing a chronograph.
I also have one of those watches, however mine has the link watch band. I bought it new and wore it for well over 20 years. I remember going to Service Merchandise to buy it. I was 17 years old and worked as a bag-boy at a grocery store. I saved my money to buy it and was thrilled with it. I need to have it serviced and would like to keep you in mind for a servicing if that is ok with you…
My contact info is in the description if you’d like to reach out some time
Many years ago i owned 2 of this watch, hiding micro rotor inside is unique but also a strange and difficult task for many watch repairers, they either refused or ask a service fee higher than that second hand watch ! i sold them, now i in great regret 😭
Wig-wag sandwich😆 The oscillating weight was interesting. I don't work with wristwatches that frequently, so not used to seeing a rotor/weight that doesn't sit on top of the assembled movement. Top notch video and restoration Chris. 💪
What a gorgeous timepiece. ❤❤❤
A brilliant video Chris. Throughly enjoyed it
I would be heading back to that shop for a refund. If you are not capable of servicing the movement why take on the job?
Wow, great video, very interesting.
Great job.
Awesome.
good looking watch, and great video
Great video! A lathe? I didn’t know they made one so small. So cool!
Outstanding Review Services !👋👋👋👋👋
Great video. Very impressive service. It was a complicated moment. You did a great job. Thank you for the video
Spinner between your amazing lathes and fixing watches with issues. You have that “Macyver” skill, keep up the good work. Guitar string springs, missing screws, plus a wheel with missing teeth.
good job that’s nice watch
Great tutorial sir. Thank you.
Amazing, cheers
great job
Fabulous. 👍
Fantastic work, as usual! :D
Also I totally expect you to post a video on April 1st with you masterfully repairing a *really* vintage timekeeping device - y'know, an hourglass? :D
Really enjoying your videos. Thinking about trying my hand in watch repair. But I’m 58 not sure if theirs any point.
I’m a machinist and cutting tool maker, and seems like it would be a great hobby, but my age is something to consider.
Once again really appreciate you sharing your experience with us and taking the time to make the videos!!
Give it a go! 58 you’re still relatively young. If you still have good eyesight and steady hands.
I'm 59 and I've been buying tools to take up watch repair, and I'm taking an online course. It's got to be done. Next step is some movements to practice on.
New video! Yay!!!
👍🏾 excellent!
Brilliant, learned plenty.... but what did I actually see 😱
Please consider working on a "Hebdomas" "8 day" pocket watch as I would like to see you work on a watch where the mainspring takes up all the space on the back of the watch.
Pretty nice watch for 898 bucks.
Throughout America, we have a lack of competent, skilled watchmakers. It’s sad we have to send our watches out in the mail for proper service, because we often can’t get it done locally.
Great video, I'm sad that I can only hit the like button once! 😢
Did you consider trying to straighten the bent pivot? Not sure how hard that is, but you seem pretty game for those kinds of challenges.
In my experience they always snap off when trying to bend them back
Amazing work! Did you do anything to remedy the plate wear from the sliding pinion? I was scanning back through, but may have missed that. Absolutely splendid work returning this beautiful watch back to full functionality!
It was worn down. I just made sure there weren’t any burrs remaining
Looks like the setting wheel spring was not fully seated when you installed it. At around the 25-26 min mark? Thanks for another Great video. Very informative. Always like your videos
wow
Very nice movement,but i think it is a bit overengineered. I like its modularity though.
Astounding job Chris. Such talent 👍👌
Great video, Chris! Question: I noticed that you measured the amplitude before fully assembling the calendar works and chronograph. Does the friction in those systems not impact amplitude?( I've been buying a lot of books on watchmaking to try to answer questions like this myself but I haven't read them all yet! 😂😂😂)
Great question. The changeover complications like calendar and chronograph recorders are instantaneous and do not drag down amplitude to any meaningful extent. As for running the chronograph, the turning of the center runner wheel also does not cause a measurable decrease in amplitude when probably lubricated
How do you get the peg wood small enough to get into the smaller jewel holes? I serviced a 6498 movement and had trouble with this on the smaller holes. I used a very sharp knife, but the point was so fine that the knife took the tip off, and it wouldn't fit. I tried sanding it, but that didn't work so great. I also bought a precision pencil sharpener, thinking it would work well for this. However, the tip of the sharpener is made specifically for the harder pencil lead, so I was left with an odd tip with a long bit of wood hanging from it. I'm considering sanding the wood down, but have heard that you want it to be cut so that the sharper edges grab dirt and debris, providing more of a scrubbing action.
Maybe I just need to use something like a razor blade to sharpen it? That way the tip isn't pushed on with that much force? It seems you have to get such an ultra fine point to be able to get the tip actually into the hole of the smaller jewels. Any suggestions?
You get the point “fine enough” and after a few rotations with very light pressure, it gets deformed and a tiny tip is impressed within the hole. I’ve never been able to create that tip with a knife alone. It happens during the pegging process itself
@@csspinner I'll have to try again. I figured it would form itself, as I've seen that in your videos before. However, mine just kept breaking. I could get the 2nd & 3rd wheels, but not the smaller ones down the gear chain.
@@k-ozdragon I find mine break most often in the smaller holes as well- like the balance and pallet hole jewels. I need to make extra sure I’m using the lightest of pressure and keeping the peg completely vertical at all times. It isn’t the easiest thing to do
@@csspinner When that happens, do you just sharpen the tip & try again? Or sharpen it, peg a larger hole to form the fine tip, & then try again on the small one?
I know that this step is very important to clean out the jewel holes.
@@k-ozdragon sharpen and try again. I found if I “reuse the tip” from another jewel it’s even more fragile, so avoid doing that
$88 in 1977 dollars is $427 in 2024 dollars.
I'm having the same issue with my mainspring winders. Can you explain how you did this mod?
I basically chose the winder arbor I wanted to use, the one that would actually hook the spring properly. Then I chose the winder barrel that would fit my mainspring barrel. Then just drilled it out to fit the arbor
"It's seen some action..." Did they swap parts from another watch??🥶
It spent four years on my wrist through basic training, Airborne school, Jungle School, Recondo School and many jumps.
@@rickseconds7676 but wasn't it supposed to have been already serviced? Sorry if I got it wrong 😅
@@160rpmYes, twice before. The previous one before this, wasn't done properly.
@@rickseconds7676 Right, that's what I was referring to :)
In terms of being more precise when oiling the pallet fork jewels, I’m curious about your thoughts on the 12m to 18m section of ua-cam.com/video/ydSoQlXr_gU/v-deo.htmlm
for me,this watch is a devil... really ..I'm not able can't do it, its too complicated...
You're a brain surgeon, aren't you?
My day job is in software 😅
That was a complicated beast! Impeccably repaired. Beautifully filmed. Thanks for your time and skills!
Love the videos you do,cheers. Just had a fruitless search on google. How are jewels made for watches? All the best