Is it illegal to park in a disabled parking bay at a supermarket without a blue badge?

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  • @InclusiveDriving
    @InclusiveDriving  Рік тому +33

    Just to clarify my position: parking in a disabled bay if you (or a passenger) are not disabled is completely unethical.

  • @KATONKA...
    @KATONKA... 11 місяців тому +45

    Doesn't matter if it's legal or not, it's just rude MORALLY...

    • @InclusiveDriving
      @InclusiveDriving  11 місяців тому +2

      Why is it rude for a genuinely disabled person to use a disabled parking bay?

    • @KATONKA...
      @KATONKA... 11 місяців тому +9

      @@InclusiveDriving it's rude for a non-disabled person parking in a HC spot, whether legal or not...better?

    • @InclusiveDriving
      @InclusiveDriving  11 місяців тому +1

      @@KATONKA... yes, you actually make sense now.

    • @shaun30-3-mg9zs
      @shaun30-3-mg9zs 11 місяців тому +1

      Agree

    • @margaretpickbourn2647
      @margaretpickbourn2647 10 місяців тому

      But what if it’s a mum with a child and there are no child parent spaces?

  • @doncasterghosthunters
    @doncasterghosthunters Рік тому +8

    Awesome video forgot to display my blue badge got a fine from parking group for not displaying it in private car park..used this video almost to the word let's see what they say to the appeal lol..thank u for the legal jargon and help....
    Update! They accepted my proof and appeal all charges were dropped thank you amazing 😀

    • @Ottosparty17
      @Ottosparty17 8 місяців тому +1

      Wow after 30 odd years of driving I’d never had a parking ticket.Now a badge holder I received my first one for not putting the clock on. I never thought to fight it. Iv noticed Men park their cars in the spaces so that they don’t get their cars hit by other drivers doors.

  • @geoffreyhirst9018
    @geoffreyhirst9018 7 місяців тому +3

    Some people are too idle to walk and park as near as they can to the super market door, or use another persons badge.

  • @oldtimestrengthcentre
    @oldtimestrengthcentre 7 місяців тому +1

    Imagine parking in a disabled bay without a badge and then trying to wriggle out of any fine using this type of argument.

  • @mpol701
    @mpol701 Рік тому +1

    Yes i keep saying this blue badge has no legal relevance on any private land, and can set there own rules regarding parking, but are only vouuntary, not police or parking enforcement or council of any sort
    I don't have a blue badge as I have concessions pass but at 2 airshows igo to they asked on there website for blue badge for disabled parking, but on asking them direct I don't fit criteria for blue badge but for airshows I need to park in disabled if my friend /assistant is taking me abd being there for me
    And instead of blue badge they let me in one shoeing my esa and pip documents evrn though not mobility enough for blue badge
    One I send photo of evidence to events disability team they then send me there own parking area disabled badge
    So yes some people might not have a blue badge but still need disabled parking anf if on private land then it's not illegal
    Ted the ones who deliberately just park anywhere no disability at all are wrong, but they are not illegal and I feel on such land just shoeing someone some sort of disability proof shoukd be enough, trouble is no parking staff, it's all cameras automatically thst need to see a blue badge, so while not illegal to park the company will fine those nit showing badge in sone cases

  • @MENSA.lady2
    @MENSA.lady2 2 місяці тому

    No.

  • @pizzyp
    @pizzyp 7 місяців тому

    My problem with blue badge parking is when people park within 15 metres of any junction and creating an obstruction for other road users just so they can get a pint, paper or whatever.
    Thank for the info 👍

    • @martingaunt599
      @martingaunt599 2 місяці тому +1

      Trafic law still applies. its all stated in the booklet you get with the badge.

  • @37Raffaella
    @37Raffaella Рік тому +2

    Wow….Now I’m starting to think that Brexit was a good thing 🤯Pathetic!!! 🇪🇸

  • @Pugwash.
    @Pugwash. 7 місяців тому +3

    To park in disabled bays or parent & child bays when you don't need them is inconsiderate. I know my local supermarket has gym members using these spaces so they don't have to walk so far to the entrance to the gym. That baffles me.

  • @harryfoster6374
    @harryfoster6374 4 місяці тому +3

    I had a situation were I parked in a disabled space at a centre I was attending for a physio session. Quickly remembering I had not displayed my blue badge I went out, and to my surprise had a parking ticket on my screen , took a photo and sent it to the parking firm, and ignored any more letters. I wish I had known about the information you have supplied .thank you. keep us informed.

  • @edbredin6406
    @edbredin6406 Рік тому +7

    Thanks for letting me know. The tesco store I live beside people use the disabled bays without blue badges all the time which is so annoying and I had a few run ins with some people. But I'll keep silent in the future

    • @mpol701
      @mpol701 Рік тому +2

      Added to fact it's hard to get blu badge, many have hidden disabilities that need parking nearer locations but sadly council won't give them a badge, so soneone can be disabled and not have a blue badge

    • @mpol701
      @mpol701 Рік тому

      Many disabled come under the equality act only not blu badge, so yes they have to accept we don't all have blue badge, in fact under the act we don't even have to provide proof of disability, it's self declared as well
      So example mask rules anyone can say thry can't wear a mask, state excempt, no proof of anything needed the equality act takes care of any asking for proof and that's classed as discrimination
      So me and others could go non masked anywhere and say to staff, excempt, some carried on asking or trying to restrict entry, some asked for the lanyards or other proof but there's no legal right to do so
      2010 equality act meant we don't have to show proof or evrn have a diagnosis of anything
      And this act allied to everything education, workplaces and yes disabled parking
      Companies with cameras poking for the blue badge my guess are also acting illegally as thst supermarkets has to be under disability act which means u don't have to show proof and indeed me saying about my disability and shoeing my dwp paperwork of bus pass should be enough anyway
      But equally I don't have yo shoe it, but to get help I prfere to and think it's better
      So can't show blu badge but am disable and have reason for being nearer to a venue when wiyh someone else in there car
      And my bus pass I have to say can't go to that supermarkets as its 5 minutes from bus stop or more from shop
      So I have to decide what shops I can go to without tiring myself out too much at times I can have a bit more energy say 10 minutes other times I can't
      And every supermarkets when u get in can be sitting for hour before able to do 5 minutes shop then hour or more sit down yet I don't qualify because dwp badly asses people for pip and make loads of errors in such assessments do we get wrong pip award

    • @welshman64
      @welshman64 Рік тому +1

      Private car parks have that a blue badge is in there car park within there terms and conditions

    • @Edi-r1888
      @Edi-r1888 10 місяців тому +2

      ⁠@@mpol701that’s what lazy people say, I have a hidden disability.

    • @mpol701
      @mpol701 10 місяців тому

      @@Edi-r1888 that's what nazis say go and learn up but disability

  • @TheRousler
    @TheRousler 3 місяці тому +1

    Whilst its not nice i would expect that someone with a temporary injury such as broken ankle/leg/hip or back injury etc should be allowed to use them without abuse.
    Maybe doctors and hospitals could issue temporary ones.

  • @jackthebassman1
    @jackthebassman1 10 місяців тому +11

    I’m a blue badge holder, but if we go to the supermarket and my wife goes in, we park in a regular space. We had a friend who used her husband’s badge (which he should have returned following an operation and posting videos on Facebook of them jiving and he climbing scaffolding), her reason for using his badge - “it won’t hurt, I’m only nipping in”. No longer friends.

    • @Jimmyspangle
      @Jimmyspangle 3 місяці тому

      One chooses friends wisely. One disowns former friends VERY wisely. It hurts, but I 100% support your morals.

    • @jackthebassman1
      @jackthebassman1 3 місяці тому +1

      @@Jimmyspangle If we go to the supermarket and I don’t go in, I don’t park in the disabled area, it’s not difficult, it’s being aware that others have needs. It has happened that we just couldn’t find a disabled space, so we had to abort the shopping and come back later.

    • @Jimmyspangle
      @Jimmyspangle 3 місяці тому

      @@jackthebassman1 I am not sure if you misunderstood my reply. Perhaps it is the way I worded it. I am totally on your side. I am also disabled and absolutely agree with what you said. I admire you for dropping your ex-friends. We did the exact same for the same reason. It is painful, but right. Don't stop being the decent person you clearly are.

    • @jackthebassman1
      @jackthebassman1 3 місяці тому

      @Jimmyspangle Hello Jimmy, I did understand your reply and appreciate your thoughts. Most people are very considerate, it's those who don't stop to consider others that are really frustrating aren't they. Take good care of yourself x

  • @ChristineSharples
    @ChristineSharples 19 днів тому

    As a 72 year old pensioner I object to having to walk further than a young women with a child. Wider spaces granted.

  • @neiltrevatt
    @neiltrevatt Місяць тому

    Simple answer have the disabled and parent/ child bays segregated with a barrier/ warden I am sure people would pay a couple of pence to have this most companies have loyalty cards now could even be done through that take a couple of points from your total . The thing that should be more talked about is blue badge people abusing it

  • @tonydelaney3536
    @tonydelaney3536 7 місяців тому +2

    If it’s NOT illegal then why have parking bays marked out??

    • @InclusiveDriving
      @InclusiveDriving  7 місяців тому +2

      Perhaps because *most* people are sensible and will not use them if they are not disabled.

    • @sirderam1
      @sirderam1 3 місяці тому

      ​@@InclusiveDriving
      ... and the requirements of the Equality Act, perhaps?

  • @mileschettle6898
    @mileschettle6898 7 місяців тому +2

    It's not illegal but if there's adequate sinage stating terms to park in a disabled bay including any penalty you can receive an invoice to pay the penalty.

    • @wolvoman1
      @wolvoman1 2 місяці тому

      This makes the signage incorrect and therefor not legal.

  • @crabber9368
    @crabber9368 11 місяців тому +2

    I've had someone call the police on me for parking in a handicapped space the cop cursed me and started writing a ticket I have a permanent set of tags that are for handicapped tags for handicap I pointed the handicapped state tags

    • @InclusiveDriving
      @InclusiveDriving  11 місяців тому +4

      Here in the UK, police wouldn't get involved for such a thing.

  • @shaun30-3-mg9zs
    @shaun30-3-mg9zs 11 місяців тому +2

    Some good info but those regs you have but the one's you have are the regs for England only which most of those regs may be different to the regs here in Wales. My son's badge is issued by Wrexham County Council. The badge is only used when he is with me other wise it stays in the glove box and I will park in a non disable bay. Thanks for this video👍

    • @InclusiveDriving
      @InclusiveDriving  11 місяців тому +1

      I'm pretty sure the Equality Act applies to England and Wales.

    • @shaun30-3-mg9zs
      @shaun30-3-mg9zs 11 місяців тому

      @@InclusiveDriving Thank's for your reply 👍

  • @pwood5733
    @pwood5733 9 місяців тому +1

    I detest the supermarkets for using pvt parking companies so we can park to purchase their goods. Perhaps a day per year when everyone doesn’t use the store

  • @paulmurphy42
    @paulmurphy42 8 місяців тому +1

    It's only a legal requirement for the proprietor have a disabled parking bay, nothing else.

  • @bigmac5859
    @bigmac5859 10 місяців тому +6

    I've been disabled 23 year . I never parked in disabled bay until I paid for my blue badge last year.

  • @chrisbyrne4787
    @chrisbyrne4787 3 місяці тому

    Clearly private land can display disabled parking and can enforce by private companies, it's not the law. Most shops and stores that have car parks display disabled areas, but majority of the time they are filled with cars not displaying badges.
    Costco in Thurrock you will find this daily, some may have forgotten to display, some may be disabled but have no badge, but majority are just lazy ignorant people who could not give a fuck about others. I suppose ignorance is a disability in its own way, but the criteria for getting the badge does not think that would be sufficient grounds to issue one. Fine offenders £1000 and this would stop overnight.

  • @robinkey4499
    @robinkey4499 Рік тому +6

    the law should change if you parked in a disabled bay not displaying a blue badge you should receive a fixed penalty notice you are parked on private land or not this well end the argument

    • @InclusiveDriving
      @InclusiveDriving  Рік тому

      So you'll be writing to your MP then?

    • @robinkey4499
      @robinkey4499 Рік тому

      @@InclusiveDriving on my MP doses care about the disabled

    • @CB-xr1eg
      @CB-xr1eg Рік тому +1

      @@robinkey4499 does that reply come with an English translation?

    • @robinkey4499
      @robinkey4499 Рік тому

      @@CB-xr1eg Yes international sings

    • @CB-xr1eg
      @CB-xr1eg Рік тому

      @@robinkey4499 ???

  • @edinburghandbeyond
    @edinburghandbeyond 9 місяців тому

    So if there is a marking on the road parking bay they doesn't mean is a legal space if there is however a sign stating its a disability bay then it can enforcement on council land private supermarkets have to enforcement them selfs witch none do

  • @ukmediawarrior
    @ukmediawarrior 6 місяців тому

    My local Tesco supermarket car park has hardly any disabled bays (but TONS of mum with baby bays ... I wonder out of the two how many actually come to the shop?) and 9/10 people park there without badges. I asked the security guy inside about it and he just shrugged and said it wasn't his problem, the people who regulated the car, a separate firm from Tesco, had the job of checking on those.

  • @LaurenceHarding-vs2ps
    @LaurenceHarding-vs2ps 3 місяці тому

    my local sainsbury sho has a Council car park above it and i have seen lots of people without blue badges being ticketed. i have my badge and allways show it with the parking time sowing as well. i am an old codger of 87 years an have held my badge for 6 months and am verry pleased with it .all the best me old china .

  • @markgarforth279
    @markgarforth279 9 місяців тому

    I received a parking ‘fine’ for not displaying my blue badge, (for some reason I had forgot to display it as I was in a rush I was in a disabled parking bay. My disability is not readily apparent, unless I’m using my walking stick or have a limp that day.)whilst I stopped at a shopping centre, they sent a bad cctv picture of my dash board from a distance…. So I appealed and I got a reply today to say, the car parking company felt their reporting of my parking was done correctly so my appeal failed. Bearing in mind when I sent my appeal in I included pictures of my blue badge. The letter goes on to say as away of goodwill they would reduce my fine to £20!!!!! They advised that I now need to make an appeal to POPLA….. this is crazy…. And makes me so angry 😡

  • @IPW133-yo
    @IPW133-yo 4 місяці тому

    Supermarkets don't control it....Police/enforcement can't enforce it on private property

  • @georgebarnes8163
    @georgebarnes8163 9 місяців тому

    The term disabled parking bay also needs to be clarified, there are mandatory and voluntary parking bays, anyone can park in a voluntary parking bay on a public road without a blue badge.

  • @TheLiznz
    @TheLiznz 3 місяці тому

    Many people who are not disabled use private disabled parking spots, the parking wardens need some way of knowing who is genuine and who is just a lazy chancer.

    • @InclusiveDriving
      @InclusiveDriving  3 місяці тому

      Unfortunately, the bigger problem is "lazy chancers", as you put it, using a blue badge belonging to someone else. How would a parking warden know if the badge was being used by the intended person?

  • @johnweighell7725
    @johnweighell7725 9 місяців тому

    If it’s not the “Kings Highway” then the road traffic regs don’t apply

  • @CB-xr1eg
    @CB-xr1eg Рік тому +1

    Heisenberg advising us on Blue Badge parking, whatever next?🤣

  • @shush_ya_mush
    @shush_ya_mush 2 місяці тому

    One of these private parking companies were daft enough to take me to court when I forgot to display my badge.
    End result was they had to pay me £1000 for my counterclaim for breach of the Equality Act

    • @jeffreyhall6345
      @jeffreyhall6345 2 місяці тому

      How did you prove that it was actually you in the car?

    • @shush_ya_mush
      @shush_ya_mush 2 місяці тому

      @@jeffreyhall6345 the burden of proof is on them, but I admitted to being the driver as I am disabled, so I counterclaimed for breach of the Equality Act, and since they knew I was disabled it was a slam dunk

    • @shush_ya_mush
      @shush_ya_mush 2 місяці тому

      @@jeffreyhall6345 I don't have to prove anything, the onus of proof is on them since they were the ones who brought a claim against me. They knew from the beginning I was disabled but pursued me anyway (this particular company don't follow the POFA) and as such had no defense to my counterclaim for breach of the Equality Act

  • @robroy9200
    @robroy9200 6 місяців тому

    theres no such thing as private car parks if the public have access?

  • @adawson1967
    @adawson1967 4 місяці тому

    Boo hoo

  • @Martin-ue5hy
    @Martin-ue5hy 8 місяців тому

    Why ask in the first place should be made illegal

  • @thomasgray5406
    @thomasgray5406 Рік тому

    Where is the contract? In order for a contract to exist, there has to be the exchange of 'consideration'.

    • @thomascarroll9556
      @thomascarroll9556 Рік тому

      What Constitutes Valid Consideration? Consideration, has to have legally sufficient value to constitute 'valid consideration'. Consideration can include a practical benefit [ie the area of land on which to park, whether paid for it or not] you give the other person or a detriment to yourself.

  • @timmytackle9181
    @timmytackle9181 9 місяців тому

    If you can manoeuvre around a shopping mall for a hour doing your shopping then you can manoeuvre a hundred yards around a car park the real disability in this day and age is ptsd and no one cares about that

    • @mpol701
      @mpol701 9 місяців тому

      Don't have a blue badge but registered with local, authority under disability care 2014,and have bus pass, for me shopping an hour wow, my shop is get bus nearest to the shop, sit in shop up to an hour, 10 minutes shopping on a good day, pay for goods 1 to 3 hours sitting down again, an hour actually Shopping is not anything I've ever been able yo do, adhd, autism, heart failure, kidney disease all play there part

    • @mpol701
      @mpol701 9 місяців тому

      Get home leave trolley at bottom of stairs but bring some up in bag, toilet rest again hour or more, start putting stuff away, rest another hour after 10 minutes or less, then go down bring up trolley
      The yes another hours rest before putting final stuff away and resting again
      If someone does take me somewhere if private car park then legally we can park in disabled but don't because hassle involved, but my airshows at at a museum I insist on disabled parking and show my disabled registration or bus pass

    • @mpol701
      @mpol701 9 місяців тому

      But many with blue badge the holder like me will be sitting down not actually Shopping, so not all are walking for hour

    • @keithmarshall8796
      @keithmarshall8796 8 місяців тому +1

      So unless you have ptsd you're not disabled? So having ptsd means that you cannot walk around a shopping mall for an hour? Anyone in a wheelchair doesn't need a blue badge? Anyone who has a hidden disability ie breathing problems, traumatic brain injury, epilepsy, partial sight, these people in your opinion shouldn't have a blue badge but you should! Right gotcha!

    • @timmytackle9181
      @timmytackle9181 8 місяців тому

      @keithmarshall8796 your a dick and your part of the problem I'm right and your wrong .

  • @Simon-wi3dk
    @Simon-wi3dk 10 місяців тому +1

    Legal is not lawful , the term legal belongs solely to corporation / maritime law which only applies to person (legal fiction ) not to Man .

    • @bobikdylan
      @bobikdylan 10 місяців тому +4

      Let me guess, you travel but don't drive, right?

    • @Simon-wi3dk
      @Simon-wi3dk 10 місяців тому

      @@bobikdylan any vehicle is pulled by horsepower .

    • @mikedakin2016
      @mikedakin2016 9 місяців тому

      @@Simon-wi3dk mine is pulled by kilowatts .Idiot!

  • @papaspears5035
    @papaspears5035 9 місяців тому

    Blue Badge holders are the rudest people because I'm not in their club.

    • @adawson1967
      @adawson1967 4 місяці тому

      If your not disabled you won't be in the so called CLUB

  • @davidcaldwell4953
    @davidcaldwell4953 9 місяців тому

    I tell you what Pisses 3:23 everyone off about blue badge holders . Not only do a lot abuse them but the utter stupid places some park them . They have no thought for anyone but themselves. You see it every day . They park anywhere at anytime.

  • @howardcopestake1036
    @howardcopestake1036 4 місяці тому

    So your (company) blue badge is illegal as it is not issued specifically to a disabled person. A disabled person would have presumably taken the standard driving test,so should not need further training! I think most people understand that disabled parking is provided for disabled drivers passenger. Most supermarket staff will enforce blue badge privilege but will not engage in arguement

    • @InclusiveDriving
      @InclusiveDriving  4 місяці тому +3

      You say a disabled person would already have taken a driving test. How do you think disabled people learn to drive in the first place? And let's hope you never become disabled to the point where you find that you *do* need further training to allow you to keep your independence.
      Blue Badges for organisations
      An organisation may be eligible for a badge (or multiple badges), if they transport people who need a Blue Badge.
      The issuing local council will decide whether the organisation has a clear need for an organisational badge rather than using the individual badges of the people it is transporting. An organisational badge must only be displayed when someone who would be eligible for a Blue Badge in their own right is being transported
      I teach disabled learners, who of course havent yet taken a driving test. As there are only about 40 disability driving instructors in the UK, some people travel to lessons by train, and then need to be able to transfer from their wheelchair into my car.
      Others passed a driving test when they were able bodied but have since become disabled through illness or injury. They haven't yet received their own blue badge but *do* need further training to learn how to drive using adaptations eg after limb amputation or stroke.

  • @aaBb-ji5tu
    @aaBb-ji5tu Рік тому +3

    I've been parking in disabled spots for years, I'm not even disabled nor do I have a blue badge. Never once had a ticket. Gotten alot off funny looks tho from other drivers but I couldn't care less.

    • @Nancy-lt7zf
      @Nancy-lt7zf Рік тому +1

      You are disgusting. Depriving a needy person of that space.

    • @geoffandrews153
      @geoffandrews153 Рік тому +2

      Just to clarify.. someone so useless that each breath they take is one less lungful of oxygen for someone worthwhile...

    • @garymcteer7620
      @garymcteer7620 Рік тому

      Just limp, or use a walking stick 😂

    • @NLKINK
      @NLKINK Рік тому +10

      Sad...

    • @brendanukveteran2360
      @brendanukveteran2360 Рік тому +19

      You score 10/10 for being a prat