Dude you have 117k subs. Are a random guy on the net, yet you made a vid discussing Macro Pierre White. Which you'd be way too young to know about without google. Not only that, sold out with your ads. Get fucked dude.
Lol. That's harsh. "Today Gordon has received 17 michelin stars. Which is an absurd number considering that most chefs never get to see a single one." Fade in picture of Jamie Oliver...
I mean the man made millions, gave back his stars, opened up a hotel in the country side, still hunting and fishing. If that’s not a happy life I don’t know what is.
There’s something oddly poetic about the stereotypical rebel in Marco training up an apprentice who goes on to become the ultimate product of the system in Gordon
Marco had always wanted his chefs to surpass him, and that's why he acted the way he did. And when Gordon was asked about it, he said this about Marco: "..because he drummed it in. If you want to do it, then you gotta do it to your best. If you can't do it to your best, then get the fuck out of here. Don't waste my time, and certainly don't waste yours". It's clear how much he respected the Great White, and I'm glad that they've buried the hatchet
Sometimes that is a double edged sword. Kind of like fletcher in whiplash, he was extremely harsh because he wanted to push his musicians to be great, but look at what happened to Shaun Casey, he ended up killing himself because he felt could never live up to those expectations. On the other hand Andrew pushes away his relationships, trains so hard he cuts his hands, and grows an ego thinking he’s better than everyone.
WDYM? Gordon is a dirty sellout that even random asian youtbers callout on his cookware and ingredients, while Marco is unparalleled chef, a master of his craft that gave up on tens, if not hundreds of millions of dollars just for the sake of his integrity. They're on completely different levels. Sure, Gordon makes way more money, but at what cost? He's barely above an average chef in a random cafeteria in eastern Europe, while Marco is a world class chef that refused to play the game. Literally every single video Gordon makes about food is wrong. He gets ingredients wrong, cooking wrong, cookware wrong, just everything is wrong, and the internet is roasting him for it, lol. He's a pretender to be a great chef, with no actual spirit, experience, or will to be one. It's all about marketing. The other "great" chef from UK got grilled to the ground, and Gordon is no different. He learned the basics, he got the character to be entertaining in front of camera, and he rolled with it, completely ignoring the craft. Well, financially he succeeded, but otherwise..? He's always gonna be a laughing stock amongst ACTUAL chefs.
@@John-jb6bg that "financially he succeeds" is already enough, I think. He got the life he wanted, and a few losers laughing at him won't make him go to bed and cry somehow.
You can definitely tell that both Marco and Gordon were brash and egotystical back then. You had to be if you wanted to make it in this industry. So the two of them having a falling out seems almost like an inevitability. You can certainly feel how age has whethered the two of them in different ways. Marco is now much more calm and at ease compared to his younger days. And Gordon's passion and ambition has been tempered into a more nurtured love and humility to the craft.
The two of them have definitely realised that they don’t need to be egotistical and toxic about it all the time its actually scary to think that if these 2 are friends again what will they be like at a barbecue
As someone who has worked in a restaurant that had 1 michelin star HOLY SHIT the toxicity of everyone involved in that circle. Just constant shit talking of other restaurants and people.
Marco acts more like someone who reached the top, has nothing else to prove, so he just presents himself humbly and works on simpler things. Like a philosopher who perfected his art and chose to retire. Gordon is more of the type where he'll never stop pushing his own limitations and boundaries even if he already has 'everything" he's ever wanted to accomplish. Like a martial artist who's never content sitting still.
Kinda insane how Marco walked in one of the most famous restaurants as 17y old and told them "hire me" and they did. If you tried something like that today you would be kicked out. How the times changed.
After I submit my resume to a place not restaurant business I will get dressed up and walk into the business and say "Hey I just submitted my application." Introduce myself and shake the receptionist hand. It's gotten me a job every time.
Also Marco has more considerations toward common people like us(he made most of his recipe way cheaper and less exotic ingredient)who can't bought expensive and luxurious ingredients compared to Gordon,i remembered he added expensive ingredients like caviar and truffle in some segment involving small restaurant,like they can get supplier for that stuff
That last story puts Gordon in a different light. To do something like that to someone you called a friend and owe everything to is insane... but to admit to it years later is even crazier
The way he flaunts it and speaks of it as "revenge" seems to me he really absolutely hated his damn guts, not sure what Marco did to piss him off that much before though. I doubt Gordon would be that petty to do it solely for jealousy.
The funny thing about the crying incident was that on that same day, Marco had secured a position for Gordon at Le Gavroche to work under his old mentor, Albert Roux. Marco recalls being confused about Gordon thinking he was going to get fired, when in fact, he was about to get sent to one of England's most famous and most influential French restaurants.
I've seen Gordon saying in an interview that when he asked Marco that he wants to go and work at Le Gavroche, Marco said he will speak with Albert Roux about it. He then came back to him and said he spoke with Albert who said that there's a waiting list and Gordon had to wait one year before he could go there. Once he started working at Le Gavroche he found out that there was no waiting list 😀
I like Marcos presence and humbleness, when I’ve watched him in shows he doesn’t play up to the cameras cause he probably doesn’t care what people think of him. All that matters is the cooking and I can really appreciate the honesty of it all. Gordon’s shows are fine, he’s got the charisma but it can be a bit over the top and repetitive. But you can definitely see who Gordon has modelled himself around.
You can't blame him for dialing it up to 11 for the camera. He's trying to appeal to a different type of audience, an American audience mostly, so he's gotta play the part. You can't deny Americans love a bit of a show and a trainwreck, it's noticeable when you compare the American version of Kitchen Nightmares with the British one.
Marco and “presence” and “humility” do not belong together. He’s an arrogant prick who would have been an insufferable but instructive mentor. He was in the right place at the right time and was very good. Like every massively successful person, luck is a significant factor. Those who acknowledge luck and those who came before them are truly humble.
Rich people go to the hospital for testing like x-ray and MRI, they don't go to the hospital to stay overnight, the doctors comes to their home and in Ramsey case, they come to his Mansion.
@@jason4275 no, some rich people have private doctors... no doctor "comes to their house" theres a million reasons they cant, legality aside, they wouldnt have access to equipment or medicine that you can only get at a hospital. they have full time private doctors or go to the hospital like everyone else. and only people with chronic health issues have private doctors, so
Gordon Ramsay would make the greatest meal you've ever eaten with 100 techniques to perfectly flavour the dish. Marco will make something very simple, that is done with such finesse that it will always hit the spot. Just compare how they make scrambled eggs.
@@kaiser9109 yea guga pointed out how poorly he cooks steak, his weird recipes on fword which looks almost like jamie oliver's recipe, putting ketchup on your burger mince, his awful bbq brisket which was reviewed by ant's bbq said it was horrible and many more. just watch all of gordon's show. gordon's speciality still lies in fine dining where he learned most of it from marco. outside of that it do be looking weird.
@@ittehitteh9322 I gave watched all those videos yes and Jamie Oliber compatison is fair gor adian dishes, but steak thing I'd have to give caveat considering he makes perfect beef wellington. Tbh just don't understand the constant hate for the guy personally.
I still remember that Boiling Point episode, Gordon was clearly gutted not to beat Marco's record of the 'youngest person to receive 3 Michelin stars'. That was then, this is now. I doubt Gordon thinks about it much anymore. Hes a multi-millionaire, TV star and the most famous chef in the world.
To be honest seeing how Gordon was playing the media constantly in Boiling point and how he said he faked the stolen book to blame Marco, he probably did bring the media to Marco's wedding just to further himself and to screw over Marco. At least Marco seems to have some integrity.
Agree. Marco has more class & integrity than Gordon ever could. Trying to ruin Marco by stealing an appointment book, then actually *saying* that it was Marco that probably stole it when it was Gordon the whole time? That is beyond wrong & Gordon is very lucky Marco's good reputation wasn't totally destroyed by that incident. Bringing a film crew to Marco's wedding without permission?! Again, what a classless hack Gordon is. Stealing that appointment book & then saying he did it years later is so effing cold & mean. I would never forgive such an incident. When Gordon admitted it, you can tell he spoke about it like he was still proud of what he did. What a scumbag.
@@Corinne-v9c it's why the older I got, the more I turned to Marco, cook books and all. Marco is like a rock star from the late 60s or early 90s, he just doesn't give a toss about what people think as long as he can do what he wants to do and be good at it. Now that he's older he's just a chill dude with a more philosophical take on his art and that's what makes him a treat to watch. Gordon is one of the best too but he's more of a celebrity about it. He fits the mold of the 80s and 21st century pop stars who are loud and flashy. He wants the glamor, and fame, and everything else that comes with it so he plays it up to the media. His style is very eye-catching and marketable but exhausting to watch and can get repetitive to certain people. like me. And with that celebrity attitude comes the totem pole mindset, the crap he pulled against Marco may be normal in the cutthroat world of any industry but still.
@@AxleTrade yes. I've been watching a great deal of Marco content lately. I see passion for cooking in him & also a great deal of compassion when he's dealing with apprentice chefs. With regards to Gordon, all I can now see is a narcissist in action, & your breakdown of Gordon really ticks all the boxes of a narcissist, as well. I really appreciate how you described Marco..eloquent, indeed!
I work for a catering company, and one time we got hired to work production for an episode of Hell’s Kitchen. so while the chefs were all cooking on the show and trying to demonstrate how talented they were, I was backstage preparing all the food for the crew and for the on-air chefs to eat in between filming. It was terrifying!!!
@edgardogemina5699 why sad? They needed to eat too. I'm sure there was alot of people to feed, catering only makes sense. I stay at hotels alot for work and have seen a few times the staff to make a show and it's ALOT more then you'd think, like they would fill the hotel.
"Gordon Ramsay you're describing here, yes?"... The frustration and anger in Marco's eyes... He respects Gordon and he will not allow any cheap shots against him
I’d say marco is your favourite chefs favourite chef, he’s the embodiment of what it means to be a chef, or so I was told by my older brother who’s a sous chef lol
The industry is so over worked and so under paid that passion only exists in like 10% of chefs. The modernisations of chain restaurants, combined with the working conditions means most chefs are just people that had no other choice. When marco and gordon started, it was at least a respectable profession. Now it truly has to be your life dedication else you’ll sit at 30k doing 56 hours a week
one other reason he returned the Michelin stars is because he knows people will still regard him as a Michelin class chef, with or without the star, because it had already happened, so he doesn't actually lose the stars.
@@TheWaveGoodbye-Music In Star Wars, the Sith have a Rule of Two: there can only be two, a master and an apprentice. Eventually one will kill the other, and either the master takes on a new apprentice, or more commonly the apprentice becomes the master and takes on an apprentice of his own. Darth Bane started the rule of two because the Sith almost destroyed themselves with infighting when there were more than two. The system lasted for over a thousand years, until Darth Sidious/The Emperor (master) and Darth Vader (apprentice) killed each other at the same time and Luke Skywalker refused to apprentice himself to either of them.
I love your objective nature and willingness to see the problem from both sides perspective. So many videos on celebrities and celebrity relationships try to stick to one side of thinking and it’s very refreshing to hear arguments and understanding for each side.
Marco used to be my idol and the reason I cook. But I made the mistake of meeting him when I was about 14. Had a family meal at one of his restaurants and my mum pointed him out to me, just watching tv. I went to go talk to him and ask him for tips and he put his hand in my face, shook his head and walked off without saying a word. I was 14, and short for a 14 year old, so for all he knew I was a child. Never meet your heroes, people.
Yep. I've never understood that about celebrities. No one who comes up to you to say hello or whatever should be refused. And yet all these 'names' like to talk about role models and giving something back to the people who support them ! All the best !
@@michaelfelsinger-k2i Why should they not be refused? Can you not process how absolutely annoying that would be, to have people coming up to you nearly everyday to say hello or ask for pictures? It's not like they owe anybody anything, they produce and you buy and that's it. Just because they're celebrities does not mean they like interacting with people, not everyone is a people's person.
His criticism is correct, many of Ramsay's restaurants proudly display his michelin stars despite Gordon not being there and not being the one cooking, it makes a mockery of the whole thing, and that they dish away stars after a single visit is pathetic. Marco retains the respect of most enthusiasts because he is visibly and openly passionate beyond fame, his love of it is pure, he's visibly excited by the flavors he can craft and the dishes he's making, Ramsay is a media personality, Marco is a cook, there's a difference
I worked in kitchens from a kitchen porter at 17 all the way up to a sous chef at 22. Was an apprentice under a TV chef called Hugh Fearnley Whittingsall, the chef who ran river cottage. Cooking is a passion, you have to love and treat every dish as if you’re serving it to a king. Kitchens are such a cut throat place. If you’re getting weeded with 150-200 people to feed in a 3 hour evening service on a Saturday night. Abuse, stress and burnout are extremely common, especially when working in a high pressure environment. I’ve missed family events, birthdays, almost missed a family funeral, holidays, weekends and evenings. Was working 14 hours days 5 days in a row, when the head chef walked out, was me a 19 year old sous chef and the manager trying to keep the rota, bar and food orders in tact. Still love cooking, and I have nothing but respect for anyone who works in catering from the Kitchen Porters, Commis Chefs, Chef du Partie, Sous chefs, Head chefs, executive chefs and all the front of house staff. They do an amazing job!
@@harrymail7 prove it. Cant find anything saying he did not say that. see several things saying he did. HOWEVER the correct saying is. "This steak is burnt so black It asked me for a Newport" -Hells Kitchen.
@ch420newsteam it isn't up to me to find prove he didn't say it. It is up to the people making the claim to prove he did. He did not say it. There is no footage of him saying it. It is a made up meme.
"Actor level handsome". What level is that? You mean like Danny DeVito or something? I don''t know what your comment really means, it's very shallow and a strange way of seeing life. I'm not sure why that's your particular measuring stick.
@@Fractalchemystical welp 64 people understands it well plus me so I think it just went over your head, I hope you get better perspective to life because yours looks boring af
@@KenzieMoreton-vu3pq Never just became popular that's all. Ramsay has so many shows ,hotel hell, boiling point, hell's kitchen, kitchen nightmares and many more that's all Gordon was popular for were as marco he was into more cooking
One thing about chef white, is his extreme dedication, discipline in his profession. AND his ability to keep grounded and indifferent to anything other than excellence in his work.
Was so fun to make a video about these two legends of the culinary world! I know I haven't uploaded in a while, so appreciate all of you always sticking around for uploads! I have so much content coming over the next couple of months, so strap in lads!
Honestly, very interesting cover on this topic. I was always curious as to what had happened between the two and this just sums it up completely. Crazy hearing about the Gordon Ramsay taking the book. Absolutely wild.
Marco Pierre White married a woman for 2 years, got divorced. Married a second woman, started cheating on her immediately after the wedding, got divorced. He then married the woman he cheated with, and after she popped out 3 kids, he got caught cheating on her with someone else, and they too got divorced. Gordon Ramsay has only been married once, to the same woman for nearly 30 years. They have 6 kids, and he loves them to death and takes good care of all of them. If you want me to start casting judgements on the morality of men, I always start with their home and personal lives. Pierre was well known for temper tantrums, assaulting his employees and customers, and throwing people out of his restaurant in the most diva-ish manner possible. Gordon is a diva too, but it's played up more for TV while Marco was genuinely worse than that. He even got canceled before being canceled was a thing because he used racial slurs about people. He resented Gordon for being more successful than him in the same way that Kat Williams just can't shut up about Kevin Hart or let it go that he is more successful, rich, and well liked of the two of them. It's the exact same situation. If I had to pick which one I thought was the better human being, it would be Ramsay.
Gordon was caught cheating too. All people cheat when they have the option to do so, women these days have more options and cheat more, but if the man is famous he will cheat. Gordon did too.
@@szzk7937 First off, all people do NOT cheat when they have the option to do so. What the hell kind of person are you to even believe that? Not even all SINGLE people will just have sex with someone just because an opportunity presents itself. Some people are sketchy and immoral in that way but not everyone. That is a gross generalization. Second, Gordon was not "caught cheating". There was a woman who claimed she used to be his mistress without any proof at all and used these stories to boost her fame and career. Gordon denied the whole thing and there is zero evidence it happened. You can believe what you want, but I can see how someone with your mentality automatically assumes he was cheating simply because you think everyone cheats. And that is quite frankly sad and I feel sorry for you.
Agree with you on the point about family, but Katt Williams said the truth. He took the hard way to success and to be honest in my estimation seems to be the more beloved between the two. Especially in recent times where all the predictions he's been drumming home for the last 18 years seems to have come to pass.
I fell in love with Gordan as a child . What made the difference for me was when he started traveling and going on adventures while learning new ways how to cook. It felt like a vlog or stream at times .
Gordon's dad was supposedly abusive, Marco too. If you watch Gordon's first appearance on tv in the UK documentary about his restaurant, Boiling Point, you can see how it rubbed off. The rudest chef on tv was how he was covered in the media. Without the music in comparison to his later tv shows it's definitely more serious in tone. Harsh language however can be very common in the business, and after the more contrived later shows he has clearly mellowed out
Lots of people don’t know Gordon was an athlete he played football(soccer) for years and was going to pro but he got hurt while in the minors waiting to be called up by the time he healed up his brother was dealing with addiction and he needed money immediately to help save his brother. Working in the kitchen was more than he was making in the minors and it came faster. As a result, Gordon becoming a media personality makes as athletes do media all the time. Athletes are often even given media training upon signing(rare in the USA, even though it shouldn’t be)
@@shanel4294 they started the award to sell more tires because you’d need new ones quicker if you were going to the places they awarded. It doesn’t really hold the value it used to anymore
@@shanel4294 yep, the awards were given out for the purpose of putting spots on their travel guide to get people to go out to them, burn those car tires up, if you read what they say for the 2 and 3 star places it's "go out of your way for", and "make a special journey for"
I’m sorry but the story about Gordon framing Marco in the set up heist/theft is actually super messed up, conniving and quite sociopathic. It’s completely changed my opinion on him.
I have an intuition for generally good people. And Marco is one sich person with integrity and genuinty. Gordon and especially the reservation book heist simply reveals his shrewdness
I ate at one of Marco’s pubs in Norfolk and he came in with his family and dogs and he was so rude to his staff. We sat literally on a table next to him. He was otherwise polite to us and given everyone on the table was fond of him, including most of those on our table being very capable gourmet chefs, it was shocking to hear how he spoke to his staff.
Marco completed his life goal, which wasn't even his goal to begin with, by around 35, then got bored and walked away from it all. If I'm not mistaken.
I think the crux of it is that Marco doesn’t care for the fame of being a chef, but in all respect to Marco, Ramsay has been able to make something popular and showcase other chefs. I think both are excellent.
I’ve heard all the theories disparately but finally someone to bring them together, in an organized timeline with context, home run my friend #TeamMarco ✊
This is called adapting to the current times, that's exactly what Gordon did, he adapted in the ever-changing technology of media and fame into his own work like adding garnish to your dish and it worked out because it is what everyone began consuming at the and in the future.
You will never or maybe rarely feel a restaurant that feels like home, with food that touches your soul and peaks your taste buds like Marcos. Being a franchise (Gordon’s) has its bro but it also has its cons. Being tasty and coquettish is not comfortable to eat at. Maybe once in a while it’s alright but we all know that wanting to go to that home and comfort of food that you know the chef, you taste his food that touches you and keeps changing and making you feel irresistibly amazing…can make you go back as many time as you want.
As someone who did martial arts i can relate to what marco said about him being on television to much. For me its like. Going to karate earning your black belt after 15 years. And all of a sudden you got a blackbelt your famous and you dont come to the dojo as often anymore but after years of doing that you still show off your blackbelt.(in martial arts that is a disgrace to tour dojo) because you dint earn it 1 time its a rank you need to maintain. So i get where marco is coming from.
Ngl, if you work in the industry you know you can essentially pay to keep a star and that a Michelin star is pretty pretentious and mildly racist in what their standards for what belongs on a Michelin menu is. Its an outdated model so i respect the hand back
I think some of the greatest minds and greatest artists who have spent their lives dedicated to the art over life are doomed to suffer the reprocussions. Marco dedicated his life to cooking. Gordon found the balance and optimized it for his benefit. I think there will always be a difference between a Senna and Hamilton, a Kobe. and Lebron or a Messi and Ronaldo, each great in their own respect, but the latter of each just made sure to squeeze every bit of allowance possible to get the most of the opportunity....And you cant blame them for it. Sometimes you give everything to the art and there's little left to give to everything else. Sometimes you recognize you have come close to mastering the art but you need to take care of everything outside the art. Marco is one of the greatest, I think he gave everything he had to cooking and life faded by because that was the most important thing to him. Gordon understood that cooking was everything, but he reached a point where it wasn't anymore. He wanted to built a brand and optimize the opportunity he had been given to ensure him and his family for generations were set. Some purists like Marco might have an issue with that, but its not better, nor worse. Just a different path. I will always respect a great artist, athlete or individual who gives everything to their craft. But I don't hold it against those who take their opportunity to set themselves and their families up for generations to come.
Gordon has zero integrity. To do what he did to Marco when he stole that appointment book then had the audacity to say Marco stole it...that is about the *lowest* anyone can stoop. Gordon may have made millions & is "successful," but in doing that he proved he has zero morals & is a scumbucket. A zebra never loses their stripes....meaning Gordon would do something like that again if he thought he needed to.
My husband is a chef. I see the same dedication in him that I see in a lot of famous chefs. I admire the work ethic and how passionate he is. The problem a lot of famous chefs run into is thinking they’re better than others because they know so much when in reality they were once the student also. My husband thinks Gordon is an asshole because he doesn’t do a lot of cooking anymore. He rather do the media side. I love Gordon for the fact he use to cook and now does media and tries to teach people the skills. Eventually you realize you aren’t so young anymore and go from actually doing to teaching to pass the torch
I think Gordon is just torn between revenge for the abuse Marco subjected him to or be grateful for he became world’s most known chef partially due to Marco. Personally, I’m not a forgiving person, so I kind of understand Gordon better but you may argue otherwise
If you can't see who is in the wrong here, you definitely don't forgive easily. Gordon had a chip on his shoulder his entire life over one of the best chef's in the world, making him one of the best chef's in the world. Seek to learn to forgive and you can easily do what both did, but better. They could have easily collaborated later on and learned together. The only thing you hold onto without forgiveness is arrogance in your own ego.
@@rakuencallisto He didn’t have to be rude and abusive? I don’t see how that have helped him to become a great chef. Yes, sure he learned a lot of masterful cooking skills from him, and that’s a part I personally would be grateful for, but I don’t think we should just ignore some bad experiences, why? That’s because I think we shouldn’t let abusive and arrogant people continue their abuse. We ought to speak straight and let them know that their behavior is wrong, and I’m not such a selfish bastard to see future students or cooks or whoever get humiliated like that just because I was humiliated in the past and so they must suffer too…😇
@@Rarx_Kaldren and you need to mind your own business and writing useless comments on the internet. Tik tak, tik tak… It’s you, wasting the seconds of your remaining lifespan
As a pro chef for 25 years I respect and could learn so much from both these men. Kitchen work is hard ,hot ,high pressure and all.real chefs are volatile. I love it not for the thin skinned.
Marco is the original OG and comfortably the purer chef, but GR has more passion, drive and dedication to the game. Simple as, ones an artist the other is a machine!
Lol I remember that but I don’t think he did cause on kitchen nightmares he’s there to help. Also those people were rude on that episode like more than usual.
GORDON is a G and MARCO IS TOO. They are the Sith of chefs. And Gordon definitely slayed his master and became superior. Marco is a shadow now, and still the greatest in modern history. He groomed Gordon to succeed him. His anger towards him and silence was in fact a sign of respect
I see it as two fine chefs with different MO's. One is content with simply being the badass he is in his own right, no f's given while the other makes it his media personification. While both are still badasses, I'm always gonna favor the original one who doesn't need to literally make a show of it. Gordon learned from the master.
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Dude you have 117k subs.
Are a random guy on the net, yet you made a vid discussing Macro Pierre White.
Which you'd be way too young to know about without google.
Not only that, sold out with your ads.
Get fucked dude.
Lol. That's harsh. "Today Gordon has received 17 michelin stars. Which is an absurd number considering that most chefs never get to see a single one." Fade in picture of Jamie Oliver...
Moral of the video. Don’t be a dick. Your actions will have consequences and affects people. Which will cause a cycle of it.
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I mean the man made millions, gave back his stars, opened up a hotel in the country side, still hunting and fishing. If that’s not a happy life I don’t know what is.
Nope thats a happy life.
A happy life for a chef, sure.
But to people who find that boring, not so much.
@@based_space215bro that’s a retarded thing to say. No shit if someone finds something boring, they wouldn’t like it
If a man finds that boring , he doesn't deserve life.
@based_space215 One must appreciate the life he got.
I knew peaceful surroundings all too well and it is worth more than Rhodium (600$/per gram )
There’s something oddly poetic about the stereotypical rebel in Marco training up an apprentice who goes on to become the ultimate product of the system in Gordon
like an acient greek tragedy
How is Gordon a product of the system when he continually pushes the envelope? Sounds like sour grapes.
@@anthonyjohnson6199 if anything, Gordon IS the system at this point.
He opened a bunch of restaurants and I doubt he's cooking at all of them.
@@QuangNguyen-it3ub Yeah no shit thats how owning a francise works.
They're both legends, just for different reasons. It was Gordon's choice to become more of a media personality than chef. Marco's mother was Italian.
that is very unfortunate for marco
And? What does it matter if hes half italian?
@@s66s46 Genetically they can only taste tomato.
it was also gordon’s choice to cry and lie
Really?! I guess those 17 Michelin Stars Gordon has are for his ‘celebrity.’
Their relationship can be chalked up to the sith rule of two
Always two there are ,no more ,no less
They work together, but are constantly looking for a way to kill and replace each other lol.
Chef Bane: “The chefs betrayed each other, victims of their own greed. But from the ashes of culinary disaster, I was the last survivor.”
If you're a virgin.
@@IrishPablo94there was once the rule of many
Marco had always wanted his chefs to surpass him, and that's why he acted the way he did. And when Gordon was asked about it, he said this about Marco: "..because he drummed it in. If you want to do it, then you gotta do it to your best. If you can't do it to your best, then get the fuck out of here. Don't waste my time, and certainly don't waste yours". It's clear how much he respected the Great White, and I'm glad that they've buried the hatchet
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Which is so true. You should always do your best at whatever you do.
Sometimes that is a double edged sword. Kind of like fletcher in whiplash, he was extremely harsh because he wanted to push his musicians to be great, but look at what happened to Shaun Casey, he ended up killing himself because he felt could never live up to those expectations. On the other hand Andrew pushes away his relationships, trains so hard he cuts his hands, and grows an ego thinking he’s better than everyone.
WDYM? Gordon is a dirty sellout that even random asian youtbers callout on his cookware and ingredients, while Marco is unparalleled chef, a master of his craft that gave up on tens, if not hundreds of millions of dollars just for the sake of his integrity. They're on completely different levels. Sure, Gordon makes way more money, but at what cost? He's barely above an average chef in a random cafeteria in eastern Europe, while Marco is a world class chef that refused to play the game. Literally every single video Gordon makes about food is wrong. He gets ingredients wrong, cooking wrong, cookware wrong, just everything is wrong, and the internet is roasting him for it, lol. He's a pretender to be a great chef, with no actual spirit, experience, or will to be one. It's all about marketing. The other "great" chef from UK got grilled to the ground, and Gordon is no different. He learned the basics, he got the character to be entertaining in front of camera, and he rolled with it, completely ignoring the craft. Well, financially he succeeded, but otherwise..? He's always gonna be a laughing stock amongst ACTUAL chefs.
@@John-jb6bg that "financially he succeeds" is already enough, I think. He got the life he wanted, and a few losers laughing at him won't make him go to bed and cry somehow.
“No, I didn’t make Gordon Ramsay cry. He made himself cry. That was his choice to cry”.
Savage
cringe
This quote I would expect from someone torturing his victim with a blowtorch in a dark empty basement.
@@zaqxoable 🧟♂️cringe
@@zaqxoable cringe 😬
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10:00 "most chefs never get to see a single one" *pans to Jamie Oliver* XD that was beautiful
Apply cold water to burned area to reduce swelling lmao
Chilli jam did no wonder to get that Michelin star
It was his twist to fried rice ! 😅
@@Thatonlyone678 Soba noodles in bland tonkotsu ramen T_T the ancestors crying
😂😂😂
Just put some chilli Jam on that burn.
What's crazy is there is only a 5 year difference in age between Gordon and his mentor.
dafak
marco was a prodigy
@@ratatatatatatatatata176 honestly he is inspirational, he transformed into mohammad ali of cooking
@@sethxtekkenwhat does that has to do with Mohammed Ali ?
@@viharikrishnan5588 , mohammad ali was not only a boxer , he was also inspirational , he gives good advice in life
You can definitely tell that both Marco and Gordon were brash and egotystical back then. You had to be if you wanted to make it in this industry. So the two of them having a falling out seems almost like an inevitability. You can certainly feel how age has whethered the two of them in different ways. Marco is now much more calm and at ease compared to his younger days. And Gordon's passion and ambition has been tempered into a more nurtured love and humility to the craft.
The two of them have definitely realised that they don’t need to be egotistical and toxic about it all the time its actually scary to think that if these 2 are friends again what will they be like at a barbecue
@@gdriskyplane3389they'd probably be pretty chill. They only get loud and crazy while they're working.
As someone who has worked in a restaurant that had 1 michelin star HOLY SHIT the toxicity of everyone involved in that circle. Just constant shit talking of other restaurants and people.
Marco acts more like someone who reached the top, has nothing else to prove, so he just presents himself humbly and works on simpler things. Like a philosopher who perfected his art and chose to retire.
Gordon is more of the type where he'll never stop pushing his own limitations and boundaries even if he already has 'everything" he's ever wanted to accomplish. Like a martial artist who's never content sitting still.
Where do you live to intentionally use a 'y' in egotistical?
Kinda insane how Marco walked in one of the most famous restaurants as 17y old and told them "hire me" and they did.
If you tried something like that today you would be kicked out.
How the times changed.
No, they'll hire you as a customer
I think you might be surprised.
After I submit my resume to a place not restaurant business I will get dressed up and walk into the business and say "Hey I just submitted my application." Introduce myself and shake the receptionist hand. It's gotten me a job every time.
No they’ll either direct you to apply online or take a CV.
Guns have always worked for me, Ive never been turned down a job
I find Marco's recipes a lot easier and quicker to make and tastier than all the other chefs. Including the use of stockpot cubes.
Ain't nothing wrong with bullion
MSG is king of flavor.
Also Marco has more considerations toward common people like us(he made most of his recipe way cheaper and less exotic ingredient)who can't bought expensive and luxurious ingredients compared to Gordon,i remembered he added expensive ingredients like caviar and truffle in some segment involving small restaurant,like they can get supplier for that stuff
@@Zero_Tester Right on the button.
A master chef can make the best food with the best materials. A prodigy can make the best food with humble materials.
That last story puts Gordon in a different light. To do something like that to someone you called a friend and owe everything to is insane... but to admit to it years later is even crazier
It’s honest🤷🏾♀️
@@PureNapturea decade later ?? Honesty when it’s convenient is not a virtue
It's like USA trying to have war in other countries like Vietnam war and years later admitting it
The way he flaunts it and speaks of it as "revenge" seems to me he really absolutely hated his damn guts, not sure what Marco did to piss him off that much before though. I doubt Gordon would be that petty to do it solely for jealousy.
@@aPumpknit’s to get more media attention, that’s what Ramsay is really good with
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Never thought id see a professional chef smoking 2 cigarettes while handling a rifle
Marco is such an enigma, lol
I'm cooking in Texas and I've definitely seen cooks that have done this lol (Not at work obviously)
Luckily you didn't. They weren't lit
Bro, Marco's a freaking boss!
It's about sending a message.
The funny thing about the crying incident was that on that same day, Marco had secured a position for Gordon at Le Gavroche to work under his old mentor, Albert Roux. Marco recalls being confused about Gordon thinking he was going to get fired, when in fact, he was about to get sent to one of England's most famous and most influential French restaurants.
I've seen Gordon saying in an interview that when he asked Marco that he wants to go and work at Le Gavroche, Marco said he will speak with Albert Roux about it. He then came back to him and said he spoke with Albert who said that there's a waiting list and Gordon had to wait one year before he could go there. Once he started working at Le Gavroche he found out that there was no waiting list 😀
I like Marcos presence and humbleness, when I’ve watched him in shows he doesn’t play up to the cameras cause he probably doesn’t care what people think of him. All that matters is the cooking and I can really appreciate the honesty of it all. Gordon’s shows are fine, he’s got the charisma but it can be a bit over the top and repetitive. But you can definitely see who Gordon has modelled himself around.
You can't blame him for dialing it up to 11 for the camera. He's trying to appeal to a different type of audience, an American audience mostly, so he's gotta play the part. You can't deny Americans love a bit of a show and a trainwreck, it's noticeable when you compare the American version of Kitchen Nightmares with the British one.
You should watch the UK version of Kitchen Nightmares. I feel like his true version. Sure he cursed too here and there but it's not as dramatic :))
Humbleness is better described as humility.
Marco and “presence” and “humility” do not belong together. He’s an arrogant prick who would have been an insufferable but instructive mentor. He was in the right place at the right time and was very good. Like every massively successful person, luck is a significant factor. Those who acknowledge luck and those who came before them are truly humble.
After Gordon's bike accident. I feel sorry for who going to serve him hospital food.
Rich people go to the hospital for testing like x-ray and MRI, they don't go to the hospital to stay overnight, the doctors comes to their home and in Ramsey case, they come to his Mansion.
@@jason4275 Source?
@@misterpuff797 My rectum
@@misterpuff797 Are you stupid or something, there're is a thing called A home care doctor or a private practice doctor.
@@jason4275 no, some rich people have private doctors... no doctor "comes to their house" theres a million reasons they cant, legality aside, they wouldnt have access to equipment or medicine that you can only get at a hospital. they have full time private doctors or go to the hospital like everyone else. and only people with chronic health issues have private doctors, so
Gordon Ramsay would make the greatest meal you've ever eaten with 100 techniques to perfectly flavour the dish. Marco will make something very simple, that is done with such finesse that it will always hit the spot. Just compare how they make scrambled eggs.
and gordon can barely make grilled cheese 🤣🤣 gordon is filled with arrogance while marco is filled with confidence
@@ittehitteh9322 "oh come on i was on a mountain peak"
@@ittehitteh9322ah yes people lpointing at the grilled cheese and the ramen when he cooks else to near perfection according to multiple chefs.
@@kaiser9109 yea guga pointed out how poorly he cooks steak, his weird recipes on fword which looks almost like jamie oliver's recipe, putting ketchup on your burger mince, his awful bbq brisket which was reviewed by ant's bbq said it was horrible and many more. just watch all of gordon's show. gordon's speciality still lies in fine dining where he learned most of it from marco. outside of that it do be looking weird.
@@ittehitteh9322 I gave watched all those videos yes and Jamie Oliber compatison is fair gor adian dishes, but steak thing I'd have to give caveat considering he makes perfect beef wellington. Tbh just don't understand the constant hate for the guy personally.
When you hear Marco say " I didn't make Gordon Ramsay cry, he chose to cry" it all makes sense
I still remember that Boiling Point episode, Gordon was clearly gutted not to beat Marco's record of the 'youngest person to receive 3 Michelin stars'. That was then, this is now. I doubt Gordon thinks about it much anymore. Hes a multi-millionaire, TV star and the most famous chef in the world.
He also said that Marco was a phenomenon, a genius and an absolute force of nature. I'm not sure Marco sees Gordon in the same light. 😊
No amount of money can buy integrity, I know what I’d rather have
@@Bears84
All things considered l, it’d be difficult.
@reubenl8810 Gordon also helps chefs to get better and has helped people financially to get back on their feet. Has Marco done that?
@@GovenorMcLovin as if Gordon doesn't profit from the helping shows alongside the fact that he's always done it in front of a camera
To be honest seeing how Gordon was playing the media constantly in Boiling point and how he said he faked the stolen book to blame Marco, he probably did bring the media to Marco's wedding just to further himself and to screw over Marco.
At least Marco seems to have some integrity.
Agree. Marco has more class & integrity than Gordon ever could. Trying to ruin Marco by stealing an appointment book, then actually *saying* that it was Marco that probably stole it when it was Gordon the whole time? That is beyond wrong & Gordon is very lucky Marco's good reputation wasn't totally destroyed by that incident. Bringing a film crew to Marco's wedding without permission?! Again, what a classless hack Gordon is. Stealing that appointment book & then saying he did it years later is so effing cold & mean. I would never forgive such an incident. When Gordon admitted it, you can tell he spoke about it like he was still proud of what he did. What a scumbag.
@@Corinne-v9c it's why the older I got, the more I turned to Marco, cook books and all. Marco is like a rock star from the late 60s or early 90s, he just doesn't give a toss about what people think as long as he can do what he wants to do and be good at it. Now that he's older he's just a chill dude with a more philosophical take on his art and that's what makes him a treat to watch.
Gordon is one of the best too but he's more of a celebrity about it. He fits the mold of the 80s and 21st century pop stars who are loud and flashy. He wants the glamor, and fame, and everything else that comes with it so he plays it up to the media. His style is very eye-catching and marketable but exhausting to watch and can get repetitive to certain people. like me. And with that celebrity attitude comes the totem pole mindset, the crap he pulled against Marco may be normal in the cutthroat world of any industry but still.
@@AxleTrade yes. I've been watching a great deal of Marco content lately. I see passion for cooking in him & also a great deal of compassion when he's dealing with apprentice chefs. With regards to Gordon, all I can now see is a narcissist in action, & your breakdown of Gordon really ticks all the boxes of a narcissist, as well. I really appreciate how you described Marco..eloquent, indeed!
@@Corinne-v9cWhy so obsessed with narcissism? Just stop please
@@Corinne-v9cGordon has done
Good stuff aswell why y’all acting like he’s a horrible person?
I work for a catering company, and one time we got hired to work production for an episode of Hell’s Kitchen. so while the chefs were all cooking on the show and trying to demonstrate how talented they were, I was backstage preparing all the food for the crew and for the on-air chefs to eat in between filming. It was terrifying!!!
How sad
What was the feedback? Was it good? I imagine it was as stressfull as it could be
@edgardogemina5699 why sad? They needed to eat too. I'm sure there was alot of people to feed, catering only makes sense.
I stay at hotels alot for work and have seen a few times the staff to make a show and it's ALOT more then you'd think, like they would fill the hotel.
Well that’s was catering companies do 😊
"Gordon Ramsay you're describing here, yes?"... The frustration and anger in Marco's eyes... He respects Gordon and he will not allow any cheap shots against him
I’d say marco is your favourite chefs favourite chef, he’s the embodiment of what it means to be a chef, or so I was told by my older brother who’s a sous chef lol
The industry is so over worked and so under paid that passion only exists in like 10% of chefs. The modernisations of chain restaurants, combined with the working conditions means most chefs are just people that had no other choice. When marco and gordon started, it was at least a respectable profession. Now it truly has to be your life dedication else you’ll sit at 30k doing 56 hours a week
He’s second only to Keith Floyd for me.
In actuallity probably a far better chef than Keith Floyd but that man is the OG of TV Chefs.
@@Rowankeenanx3 "overworked and underpaid" LOL chefs don't "work" you guys microwave prepared foods and yell a lot
@@danielmorris7648 aw, someone was clearly fired from TGI Fridays for sending out raw chicken
@Rowankeenanx3 You sound like a little whiner. Makes sense you cook food.
one other reason he returned the Michelin stars is because he knows people will still regard him as a Michelin class chef, with or without the star, because it had already happened, so he doesn't actually lose the stars.
That may have been an outcome of his decision rather than a contributing factor in his decision making process.
Marco is literally Gordon's Sith Lord. They even treat each other like they're following the rule of 2 😂
What does that mean to adults?
@@TheWaveGoodbye-Music In Star Wars, the Sith have a Rule of Two: there can only be two, a master and an apprentice. Eventually one will kill the other, and either the master takes on a new apprentice, or more commonly the apprentice becomes the master and takes on an apprentice of his own. Darth Bane started the rule of two because the Sith almost destroyed themselves with infighting when there were more than two. The system lasted for over a thousand years, until Darth Sidious/The Emperor (master) and Darth Vader (apprentice) killed each other at the same time and Luke Skywalker refused to apprentice himself to either of them.
@@TheWaveGoodbye-Musicdidn’t Star Wars come out like 40 years ago
Bro was living under a rock @@chilairearts4238
getting paid now my man! keep up the great work
legend mate, appreciate you always watching!
That edit with Marco chopping hits hard asf
I love your objective nature and willingness to see the problem from both sides perspective. So many videos on celebrities and celebrity relationships try to stick to one side of thinking and it’s very refreshing to hear arguments and understanding for each side.
Marco used to be my idol and the reason I cook. But I made the mistake of meeting him when I was about 14. Had a family meal at one of his restaurants and my mum pointed him out to me, just watching tv. I went to go talk to him and ask him for tips and he put his hand in my face, shook his head and walked off without saying a word. I was 14, and short for a 14 year old, so for all he knew I was a child.
Never meet your heroes, people.
Yep. I've never understood that about celebrities. No one who comes up to you to say hello or whatever should be refused. And yet all these 'names' like to talk about role models and giving something back to the people who support them ! All the best !
@@michaelfelsinger-k2i Why should they not be refused? Can you not process how absolutely annoying that would be, to have people coming up to you nearly everyday to say hello or ask for pictures? It's not like they owe anybody anything, they produce and you buy and that's it. Just because they're celebrities does not mean they like interacting with people, not everyone is a people's person.
@@michaelfelsinger-k2igrow up, celebrities don’t owe you anything. Jesus people like you are why being famous would suck
@@michaelfelsinger-k2i You're not entitled to anyone's attention. Period.
Is this such a difficult concept to wrap your self-absorbed head around??
@@thefoundationagent61 Back into your foundations, agent 61, and pour some concrete over yourself so we never see you again. Nonsensical troll !
His criticism is correct, many of Ramsay's restaurants proudly display his michelin stars despite Gordon not being there and not being the one cooking, it makes a mockery of the whole thing, and that they dish away stars after a single visit is pathetic. Marco retains the respect of most enthusiasts because he is visibly and openly passionate beyond fame, his love of it is pure, he's visibly excited by the flavors he can craft and the dishes he's making, Ramsay is a media personality, Marco is a cook, there's a difference
I worked in kitchens from a kitchen porter at 17 all the way up to a sous chef at 22. Was an apprentice under a TV chef called Hugh Fearnley Whittingsall, the chef who ran river cottage. Cooking is a passion, you have to love and treat every dish as if you’re serving it to a king. Kitchens are such a cut throat place. If you’re getting weeded with 150-200 people to feed in a 3 hour evening service on a Saturday night. Abuse, stress and burnout are extremely common, especially when working in a high pressure environment. I’ve missed family events, birthdays, almost missed a family funeral, holidays, weekends and evenings. Was working 14 hours days 5 days in a row, when the head chef walked out, was me a 19 year old sous chef and the manager trying to keep the rota, bar and food orders in tact. Still love cooking, and I have nothing but respect for anyone who works in catering from the Kitchen Porters, Commis Chefs, Chef du Partie, Sous chefs, Head chefs, executive chefs and all the front of house staff. They do an amazing job!
"That steak is so black it offered me a menthol cigarette" -Gordon Ramsay
Never said that
@@harrymail7 prove it. Cant find anything saying he did not say that. see several things saying he did.
HOWEVER the correct saying is. "This steak is burnt so black It asked me for a Newport" -Hells Kitchen.
@ch420newsteam it isn't up to me to find prove he didn't say it. It is up to the people making the claim to prove he did.
He did not say it. There is no footage of him saying it. It is a made up meme.
The editing on this is 10/10!
You know I think young Marco is easily on an actor level handsome
"Actor level handsome". What level is that? You mean like Danny DeVito or something? I don''t know what your comment really means, it's very shallow and a strange way of seeing life. I'm not sure why that's your particular measuring stick.
@@Fractalchemystical welp 64 people understands it well plus me so I think it just went over your head, I hope you get better perspective to life because yours looks boring af
What a weird comment to type lol commenting about another man’s looks … you coming out the closet?
Handsome is a cat stretch but definitely has a look to play very specific roles
Looks like a rockstar
That Intro with Marcus knife skills went hard.
Gordon never surpassed Marco, He just became more popular
Marco called it quits while he was on top.
Gordon just wants more of everything.
he did surpass him
@@KenzieMoreton-vu3pqnot in a million years
@@docb4304 nah, im telling you he surpassed him
@@KenzieMoreton-vu3pq Never just became popular that's all. Ramsay has so many shows ,hotel hell, boiling point, hell's kitchen, kitchen nightmares and many more that's all Gordon was popular for were as marco he was into more cooking
That's crazy. I had no idea they hated each other this much.
They dont. This is click bait fake news. Gordon and Marco are best friends that hunt together every year. Im a huge Gordon fan and saw the videos.
One thing about chef white, is his extreme dedication, discipline in his profession. AND his ability to keep grounded and indifferent to anything other than excellence in his work.
A young Marco with his long hair and a cigarette between his lips could be on the cover of Vogue.
the editing is amazing in this video
10:11 Jamie Oliver catching strays lol
“Unfortunately… he taught his apprentice everything knew… then his apprentice killed him in his sleep. It’s ironic…’
Great video! Had no idea about this feud between them. Love the way you explain things and your storytelling.
legend mate, really appreciate you watching!
There needs to be a movie called “marco” all about White’s rise to culinary heights
Was so fun to make a video about these two legends of the culinary world! I know I haven't uploaded in a while, so appreciate all of you always sticking around for uploads! I have so much content coming over the next couple of months, so strap in lads!
You're a legend mate 🎉 keep up the 10/10 content
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That was highly cool and informative. I appreciate you.
Honestly, very interesting cover on this topic. I was always curious as to what had happened between the two and this just sums it up completely. Crazy hearing about the Gordon Ramsay taking the book. Absolutely wild.
When freddie kruger goes to sleep he checks under his bed to make sure marco isnt under there...
Marco Pierre White married a woman for 2 years, got divorced. Married a second woman, started cheating on her immediately after the wedding, got divorced. He then married the woman he cheated with, and after she popped out 3 kids, he got caught cheating on her with someone else, and they too got divorced.
Gordon Ramsay has only been married once, to the same woman for nearly 30 years. They have 6 kids, and he loves them to death and takes good care of all of them.
If you want me to start casting judgements on the morality of men, I always start with their home and personal lives. Pierre was well known for temper tantrums, assaulting his employees and customers, and throwing people out of his restaurant in the most diva-ish manner possible. Gordon is a diva too, but it's played up more for TV while Marco was genuinely worse than that. He even got canceled before being canceled was a thing because he used racial slurs about people. He resented Gordon for being more successful than him in the same way that Kat Williams just can't shut up about Kevin Hart or let it go that he is more successful, rich, and well liked of the two of them. It's the exact same situation.
If I had to pick which one I thought was the better human being, it would be Ramsay.
Both are crappy but at least got humility in the end
Gordon was caught cheating too. All people cheat when they have the option to do so, women these days have more options and cheat more, but if the man is famous he will cheat. Gordon did too.
@@szzk7937 First off, all people do NOT cheat when they have the option to do so. What the hell kind of person are you to even believe that? Not even all SINGLE people will just have sex with someone just because an opportunity presents itself. Some people are sketchy and immoral in that way but not everyone. That is a gross generalization.
Second, Gordon was not "caught cheating". There was a woman who claimed she used to be his mistress without any proof at all and used these stories to boost her fame and career. Gordon denied the whole thing and there is zero evidence it happened. You can believe what you want, but I can see how someone with your mentality automatically assumes he was cheating simply because you think everyone cheats. And that is quite frankly sad and I feel sorry for you.
The point about the family is well said.
Agree with you on the point about family, but Katt Williams said the truth. He took the hard way to success and to be honest in my estimation seems to be the more beloved between the two. Especially in recent times where all the predictions he's been drumming home for the last 18 years seems to have come to pass.
I fell in love with Gordan as a child . What made the difference for me was when he started traveling and going on adventures while learning new ways how to cook. It felt like a vlog or stream at times .
Him explaining why he kicked people out of the restaurant is so right and just.... Everyone knows exactly the type of person he is talking about.
Marco piere white is the emperor palpatine of cooking and gordon is darth vader
I don't know, I think a better comparison would be Palpatine and Plaeguis.
Your content is fresh, keep it going!
Marco Pierre White is the kind of mentor I wanna have. He is simply honest, and have this intense passion.
NICE EDIT AT 0:35. So unnecessary, but SO SEXY. Fine work.
Giving back the stars is such an artist mind set.
Been waiting for a new one
Gordon's dad was supposedly abusive, Marco too. If you watch Gordon's first appearance on tv in the UK documentary about his restaurant, Boiling Point, you can see how it rubbed off. The rudest chef on tv was how he was covered in the media. Without the music in comparison to his later tv shows it's definitely more serious in tone. Harsh language however can be very common in the business, and after the more contrived later shows he has clearly mellowed out
Lots of people don’t know Gordon was an athlete he played football(soccer) for years and was going to pro but he got hurt while in the minors waiting to be called up by the time he healed up his brother was dealing with addiction and he needed money immediately to help save his brother. Working in the kitchen was more than he was making in the minors and it came faster. As a result, Gordon becoming a media personality makes as athletes do media all the time. Athletes are often even given media training upon signing(rare in the USA, even though it shouldn’t be)
Then why it was rushed ?
@@lexkanyima2195 why was what rushed?
@@RomeoBarnes of media training
@@lexkanyima2195 good question. I have no idea
Ah yes the famous rangers u17 media training academy😂😂😂
I still refuse to believe that these chefs work so hard to win a award from a tire company. The whole thing is just too silly.
Is it actually the tire company, I hoped it was something of value that had the same name
@@shanel4294 they started the award to sell more tires because you’d need new ones quicker if you were going to the places they awarded. It doesn’t really hold the value it used to anymore
@@shanel4294 yep, the awards were given out for the purpose of putting spots on their travel guide to get people to go out to them, burn those car tires up, if you read what they say for the 2 and 3 star places it's "go out of your way for", and "make a special journey for"
Wow okay thanks both
You probably work at a Tescos and live in your parents basement.
I’m sorry but the story about Gordon framing Marco in the set up heist/theft is actually super messed up, conniving and quite sociopathic.
It’s completely changed my opinion on him.
Ego amirite
Both are crappy
Not to me.
Justified: no.
understandable : 100%
@@Synical02 - How is it justified?
Right ? Nobody seems to care, I was shocked the first time I heard about it. Disgusting and narcissistic act.
I have an intuition for generally good people. And Marco is one sich person with integrity and genuinty. Gordon and especially the reservation book heist simply reveals his shrewdness
Pretty much everyone knows that Marco is the greater chef, Gordon is just better at marketing
Exactly
I ate at one of Marco’s pubs in Norfolk and he came in with his family and dogs and he was so rude to his staff. We sat literally on a table next to him. He was otherwise polite to us and given everyone on the table was fond of him, including most of those on our table being very capable gourmet chefs, it was shocking to hear how he spoke to his staff.
4:35 Well, he's not wrong there.
Marco completed his life goal, which wasn't even his goal to begin with, by around 35, then got bored and walked away from it all. If I'm not mistaken.
good work as usual bro
I think the crux of it is that Marco doesn’t care for the fame of being a chef, but in all respect to Marco, Ramsay has been able to make something popular and showcase other chefs. I think both are excellent.
There is a saying in my home country:
Two Swords can never be put in a single Scabbard.
I’ve heard all the theories disparately but finally someone to bring them together, in an organized timeline with context, home run my friend
#TeamMarco ✊
This is called adapting to the current times, that's exactly what Gordon did, he adapted in the ever-changing technology of media and fame into his own work like adding garnish to your dish and it worked out because it is what everyone began consuming at the and in the future.
You will never or maybe rarely feel a restaurant that feels like home, with food that touches your soul and peaks your taste buds like Marcos. Being a franchise (Gordon’s) has its bro but it also has its cons. Being tasty and coquettish is not comfortable to eat at. Maybe once in a while it’s alright but we all know that wanting to go to that home and comfort of food that you know the chef, you taste his food that touches you and keeps changing and making you feel irresistibly amazing…can make you go back as many time as you want.
That reservation book stuff is coooold
Great work mate! Thx
As someone who did martial arts i can relate to what marco said about him being on television to much. For me its like. Going to karate earning your black belt after 15 years. And all of a sudden you got a blackbelt your famous and you dont come to the dojo as often anymore but after years of doing that you still show off your blackbelt.(in martial arts that is a disgrace to tour dojo) because you dint earn it 1 time its a rank you need to maintain. So i get where marco is coming from.
Not for Chuck Norris
I really hope they make a movie of this story
"I didn't make Gordon cry. He chose to cry."
多謝！
Ngl, if you work in the industry you know you can essentially pay to keep a star and that a Michelin star is pretty pretentious and mildly racist in what their standards for what belongs on a Michelin menu is. Its an outdated model so i respect the hand back
The culinary industry is full of the weakest most pathetic excuses for men lol
It's a typical mentor/great apprentice scenario, you will love and hate each other.
I think some of the greatest minds and greatest artists who have spent their lives dedicated to the art over life are doomed to suffer the reprocussions. Marco dedicated his life to cooking. Gordon found the balance and optimized it for his benefit. I think there will always be a difference between a Senna and Hamilton, a Kobe. and Lebron or a Messi and Ronaldo, each great in their own respect, but the latter of each just made sure to squeeze every bit of allowance possible to get the most of the opportunity....And you cant blame them for it. Sometimes you give everything to the art and there's little left to give to everything else. Sometimes you recognize you have come close to mastering the art but you need to take care of everything outside the art. Marco is one of the greatest, I think he gave everything he had to cooking and life faded by because that was the most important thing to him. Gordon understood that cooking was everything, but he reached a point where it wasn't anymore. He wanted to built a brand and optimize the opportunity he had been given to ensure him and his family for generations were set. Some purists like Marco might have an issue with that, but its not better, nor worse. Just a different path. I will always respect a great artist, athlete or individual who gives everything to their craft. But I don't hold it against those who take their opportunity to set themselves and their families up for generations to come.
Gordon has zero integrity. To do what he did to Marco when he stole that appointment book then had the audacity to say Marco stole it...that is about the *lowest* anyone can stoop. Gordon may have made millions & is "successful," but in doing that he proved he has zero morals & is a scumbucket. A zebra never loses their stripes....meaning Gordon would do something like that again if he thought he needed to.
They’re both amazing cooks who chose different life paths, nothing wrong with that.
They just went fishing together
That intro while Marco was cutting with his knife was Art
I love Gordon and his humor, I don't understand the hate he gets
Your videos are always so well researched. 👏
Marco is the final boss and the reason Gordon is what he is.
Ramsay was with White for only 2 years also cooked with Joël Robuchon and Guy Savoy. He said Savoy was his best mentor.
My husband is a chef. I see the same dedication in him that I see in a lot of famous chefs. I admire the work ethic and how passionate he is. The problem a lot of famous chefs run into is thinking they’re better than others because they know so much when in reality they were once the student also. My husband thinks Gordon is an asshole because he doesn’t do a lot of cooking anymore. He rather do the media side. I love Gordon for the fact he use to cook and now does media and tries to teach people the skills. Eventually you realize you aren’t so young anymore and go from actually doing to teaching to pass the torch
I think Gordon is just torn between revenge for the abuse Marco subjected him to or be grateful for he became world’s most known chef partially due to Marco. Personally, I’m not a forgiving person, so I kind of understand Gordon better but you may argue otherwise
If you can't see who is in the wrong here, you definitely don't forgive easily. Gordon had a chip on his shoulder his entire life over one of the best chef's in the world, making him one of the best chef's in the world.
Seek to learn to forgive and you can easily do what both did, but better. They could have easily collaborated later on and learned together.
The only thing you hold onto without forgiveness is arrogance in your own ego.
@@rakuencallisto He didn’t have to be rude and abusive? I don’t see how that have helped him to become a great chef. Yes, sure he learned a lot of masterful cooking skills from him, and that’s a part I personally would be grateful for, but I don’t think we should just ignore some bad experiences, why? That’s because I think we shouldn’t let abusive and arrogant people continue their abuse. We ought to speak straight and let them know that their behavior is wrong, and I’m not such a selfish bastard to see future students or cooks or whoever get humiliated like that just because I was humiliated in the past and so they must suffer too…😇
@@diobrando5974 you need to learn logic and stop following your emotions
@@Rarx_Kaldren and you need to mind your own business and writing useless comments on the internet. Tik tak, tik tak… It’s you, wasting the seconds of your remaining lifespan
As a pro chef for 25 years I respect and could learn so much from both these men. Kitchen work is hard ,hot ,high pressure and all.real chefs are volatile. I love it not for the thin skinned.
Marco is the original OG and comfortably the purer chef, but GR has more passion, drive and dedication to the game. Simple as, ones an artist the other is a machine!
True
The man the myth the legend.
Marco always been my favourite & my inspiration since I started as a chef 20 years ago.
Im starting to think Gordon really planted that rat at the door on Kitchen nightmares after watching this
Lol I remember that but I don’t think he did cause on kitchen nightmares he’s there to help. Also those people were rude on that episode like more than usual.
There's a reason why all the great chefs dislike ramsay. He's a great chef but a second-rated human being.
GORDON is a G and MARCO IS TOO. They are the Sith of chefs. And Gordon definitely slayed his master and became superior. Marco is a shadow now, and still the greatest in modern history. He groomed Gordon to succeed him. His anger towards him and silence was in fact a sign of respect
I see it as two fine chefs with different MO's. One is content with simply being the badass he is in his own right, no f's given while the other makes it his media personification. While both are still badasses, I'm always gonna favor the original one who doesn't need to literally make a show of it. Gordon learned from the master.
I love chef Ramsey his the most genuine human out there
banger video this
Thanks bro!
“That was his choice to cry.” Damn bro
At 11:13 I had to do a double take because I could have sworn this was my hometown. Sure as shit, it actually was.