My theory here is that I spent ages "joining in making random observations", only it turns out that what I thought was random observations other people were making were actually thinly veiled compliments and insults that I didn't pick up on. So probably every time I said something like that, people were trying to figure out if it was a compliment or an insult when I didn't intend for it to be either... and as I tend to forget to inflect my voice with excitement, they'll assume it's an insult. Whoops...
When I was a teenager, long before asperger's was known, I almost took acting classes. Because I got sick of hearing, "But you don't *act* like you're happy/sad/hurt/excited/etc." Alas, the terror of performing in front of people outweighed my desire to learn how to communicate through interpretive dance like NTs do.
I've noticed that unexpected human interactions trigger strong emotional reactions in me. I won't show it, but even small, positive exchanges, like swapping a shopping cart with a stranger for a quarter, can send my mood and thoughts spiraling for many hours or even days. If I find myself in a conversation that seems pleasant to the other person, I often feel overwhelmed afterward, as if I'm in panic mode. That's true even if I also felt like it went well. It's almost as if the better the interaction was, the more passionate I felt about it, the more I felt like I was actually making a connection with someone, the worse I feel immediately afterward. It's like my brain isn't used to being happy and passionate, and making personal connections, so it's overstimulating when it happens. Then, when its over, my brain doesn't know what to do with itself, so it defaults to anxiety and panic. I usually feel like I just can't deal with it, so I end up drinking and isolating.
at the beginning of the interaction, we're so used to protecting our feelings that there is anxiety to watch if something goes wrong. i'm slowly learning to let myself be hurt, or slighted. i try to be humble and let the other person have the ability to hurt me. i try to let any hurt pass through me, even if it takes time. also, i focus on anything positive happening. if the interaction goes well then i can share kindness with a stranger. i have faith that i will recover my heart soon.
From what I’ve heard, rejection sensitive dysphoria is a trauma response, which can stem from frequent misunderstandings that occur due to autism. It sounds like it is a common experience for many neurodivergent people who disproportionately experience/develop trauma from social experiences.
Yes, if i say ONE THING that doesnt quite fit the converation the other person will cut off the relationship. No one ever gives me a second chance or explains what i did wrong They immediately cut off the relationship and never speak to me again. Sometimes id like to stop and ask the other person every 2 sentences if i've said anything wrong. Because as a person with autism, i can't tell on my own
being misunderstood then having to clarify the intention of what you said, all while being sensitive to how you made the other person feel is an odd experience. i only became aware of this happening in conversations recently! I'm so glad to have found this video. this makes me feel understood and less alone, hahah.
I've never heard it described like that, but it's spot on to what happens to me. No wonder i get too anxious to talk to people as a result, i feel so terrible when what i say is taken badlt
It's as if "non-verbal communication" (body language, tone, facial expressions) is a separate language, apart from e.g. English, one which is largely innate and spoken/understood unconsciously. Except by people with autism, who can't speak and understand it very well.
And that makes you a neurodivergent's best friend! We suffer pervasive Foot In Mouth Syndrome. Friends are the ones who take a beat to think, "That was an odd thing to say, but I trust this person isn't *trying* to be rude, so benefit of the doubt?"
I just take everyone at the words. Words should be people’s bond. Unless they verbally communicate to me something directly, I don’t assume their thoughts or emotions. I tell neurotypical people it’s on them to use their words, I’m not going to read passive body language. Also I don’t assume malice if I’m not sure what they mean, I just ask for clarification but I make clear that I havnt taken them one way or the other I just need clarification. I’m not autistic but I am neurodivergent. A lot of neurotypical people find me exhaustive in my communication skills bc I’m very technical and concise as to avoid misunderstanding. Also grew up with a lot of gaslighting so I’m hyper-vigilant in removing any opportunity to be genuinely or disingenuously misconstrued.
I've been thinking about possibly getting assessed for autism this past year. A lot of the things I've heard about it I resonate with, but this might be the biggest one. Even dealing with ADHD, getting misunderstood is something that has affected me my entire life. I always end up overexplaining myself to prevent this and even then the words never seem to come out right 😣 thank you for this video, it was comforting to know we're not alone
A real help for me was to talk with people with autism. Not having to explain every time is wonderful. It takes a bit of getting used to if you've always done it and you still fall into it from time to time. But, a 10 minute conversation with someone with autism can feel more intimate and rewarding than hundreds of conversations over the years. Autism can feel very lonely, perhaps you've found your people. Once you start seeing traits and behaviors, you find you see more and recognize more. I have tried youtube videos as self-help but not all are as genuine in essence as this one and clickbait or some shorts ones can leave you with more questions than answers. I watched autistic comedians, they perform the same act that they have constructed and they know. You can see and identify the autistic behaviors that go unnoticed to most. I watched a 14 part series in which an autistic comedian had to problem solve and convert thoughts and concepts into actions. To me their thought process was obvious but to others it made little sense of how they got from a to b. Their are tough parts to deal with when confirming autism but I believe it is worth the ride. It is much like revealing to yourself what you have always known. It can answer some questions and put some things to rest.
2:41 I hate coming up with an absolute zinger only for it to go unappreciated. I think the main thing is keep in mind is respect, as long as you are being respectful dont feel upset if the other party takes offense. do not placate them, if they want to be miserable leave them to it.
Omg I really feel you! I work as a sale person in a vintage shop. But since I did a lot of therapy, I can handle rejection, and also being a service worker, you learn fast that people are just mean ! But luckily fashion is my special interest 🥰 But I still miss understand people, and it's mostly just minor things. But when People try to do jokes, they fly over my head and Im like, what is happing? :O 😅
It's oddly heartwarming, even though it happens in different ways, that one of the most common experiences for people is being misunderstood. That really makes one want to try and be better no matter what, and give understanding to people wherever you go! Thank you for the video. It was wonderful!! I'd love to hear about your experience with music!! Were you at a practice for a band you're in, or just one around you? And what are some of your favorite artists and tracks? Hope you have a good one Holly!! :D
It's funny to me how as an autistic, I struggle with rejection sensitivity and being misunderstood while simultaneously do the exact same thing to others in return. Im blunt and honest and have good intentions but have a hard time receiving blunt response's back. I often mistake good intentions as rude or having upset the other person and this makes for extreme people pleasing which usually only exasperates the situation.
I crave for all my conversations to be in an autistic bubble. It is so much less draining. This video despite one way was spoken very much like that for me. Outside of this I do say, I can have a 5 minute conversation and think about it for 2 days. Questioning what I said, and what I could, should, would say differently. I'm confused by and miss social cues because my mental processing is concerned with tangible concepts rather than to the misleading, coded metaphors contained in so much communication. My theory in Autism of antonymous responses is that it may be delivered by a function of the innocent and straightforward childlike mind. I'm not using childlike to infer immature but, that of curiosity and honesty. Some people are so overwhelmingly conditioned to layering a meandering cryptic weaving of words to everything that they say, that when an innocent two or three word comment is made to them they have no immediate avenue to comment or add to it as it doesn't fit the narrative of their usual conversational practices. Very often and it is very often their response can appear slightly curt. I do not believe in most cases it is meant that way, but more a human instinct or reflex that removes their own usual filtering to overrides the brief social unease they experience and to stabilize their internal sense of equilibrium.
I tend to obsess a lot over what words I will say to someone as I'm worried I might unintentionally say the wrong thing but overlook the fact that it's the tone that usually matters more. Much of the time people aren't listening much at all to the words but to things like tone of voice, emotion and body language and this is where I really struggle. Maybe it's like being an actor where we can learn the script but still get the performance wrong (in other people's view anyway).
This is such a part of my daily existence, my most common "Nightmare" is me trying to convey important information and no one is understanding what I say. In extreme cases, I get hit with Situational Mutism for a few days or weeks. It's so maddening when an NT can say X and it's all good, but if I say X, it's rude, nonsensical, a dumb idea, whatever. Arrrggghhh!
The more I learn about Autism, the more I identify with it. But I don’t think I have it, just have some similar traits. The only reason I am now learning about it more is because I have recently started dating a lady who has an Autistic teenage boy, and want to be as informed and understanding as possible before I finally get to meet him.
@@GarryQuinn you are amazing for wanting to learn more and understand about autism for someone else… we need more people like you! And she will appreciate it so much! 😄
I am frequently misinterpreted. I speedrun a game and my opponent framed it as a threat. Imagine having to grow up losing only to have an opponent get hostile in order to prevent you from playing a game you love? It's sad.
Hi I the things you said at the beginning I don’t think I would see them as rude. Myself, I was in a meet up with Autistics and they said I took what one of the Autistics said literally when it was meant as a joke. I just let my head drop and said oh!! We had a laugh. The Autistics telling me I was being Autistic. I know only too well about rejection sensitivity. I have tried to change it but it is still there. Can ease it by looking at good aspects of myself. For example I am interested in philosophy. I tell myself if I can philosophise then I must have the capacity to consider what is good so even to consider what is good means I must have some good. I do try to help others and be kind also. If you can reflect on stuff which you on all what you talk about then you want to consider stuff and reconsider. Therefore Holly is good. You are good anyway I would say from watching your videos. Also your spiritual side means you are committed to the journey to be good so there must be good I you. Trying to think of stuff you might want to talk about. Mmmmm! Autistics are dedicated to being truthful being honest and seeking the truth. Is that a stereotype or true. Can be added to self esteem if one does that as it means ethics are within so capacity for good is within. That is to seek the truth is good so there is good within. Spiky Skills profile is something I am curious about.
@@fishinabox thank you so much I needed to hear this!! 🥲 It’s a lot easier being around other autistic people who get it! Ps thanks for the video suggestions! 🥰
Hi, Holly when it comes to texting by mobile to someone my words come off as misconstrued, and it frustrates me a lot. I rather tell someone in person or by mobile.
The constant misunderstandings are so exhausting
@@stephenie44 I feel you! It’s hard for sure 😩
Now I remember the main reason I no longer attempt to connect with people.
My theory here is that I spent ages "joining in making random observations", only it turns out that what I thought was random observations other people were making were actually thinly veiled compliments and insults that I didn't pick up on. So probably every time I said something like that, people were trying to figure out if it was a compliment or an insult when I didn't intend for it to be either... and as I tend to forget to inflect my voice with excitement, they'll assume it's an insult. Whoops...
When I was a teenager, long before asperger's was known, I almost took acting classes. Because I got sick of hearing, "But you don't *act* like you're happy/sad/hurt/excited/etc."
Alas, the terror of performing in front of people outweighed my desire to learn how to communicate through interpretive dance like NTs do.
I've noticed that unexpected human interactions trigger strong emotional reactions in me. I won't show it, but even small, positive exchanges, like swapping a shopping cart with a stranger for a quarter, can send my mood and thoughts spiraling for many hours or even days. If I find myself in a conversation that seems pleasant to the other person, I often feel overwhelmed afterward, as if I'm in panic mode. That's true even if I also felt like it went well. It's almost as if the better the interaction was, the more passionate I felt about it, the more I felt like I was actually making a connection with someone, the worse I feel immediately afterward. It's like my brain isn't used to being happy and passionate, and making personal connections, so it's overstimulating when it happens. Then, when its over, my brain doesn't know what to do with itself, so it defaults to anxiety and panic. I usually feel like I just can't deal with it, so I end up drinking and isolating.
at the beginning of the interaction, we're so used to protecting our feelings that there is anxiety to watch if something goes wrong. i'm slowly learning to let myself be hurt, or slighted. i try to be humble and let the other person have the ability to hurt me. i try to let any hurt pass through me, even if it takes time. also, i focus on anything positive happening. if the interaction goes well then i can share kindness with a stranger. i have faith that i will recover my heart soon.
i will say, i haven't learned to keep looking people in the eye, lol.
From what I’ve heard, rejection sensitive dysphoria is a trauma response, which can stem from frequent misunderstandings that occur due to autism. It sounds like it is a common experience for many neurodivergent people who disproportionately experience/develop trauma from social experiences.
Yes, if i say ONE THING that doesnt quite fit the converation the other person will cut off the relationship. No one ever gives me a second chance or explains what i did wrong They immediately cut off the relationship and never speak to me again. Sometimes id like to stop and ask the other person every 2 sentences if i've said anything wrong. Because as a person with autism, i can't tell on my own
being misunderstood then having to clarify the intention of what you said, all while being sensitive to how you made the other person feel is an odd experience.
i only became aware of this happening in conversations recently! I'm so glad to have found this video. this makes me feel understood and less alone, hahah.
@@sierramares05 I’m so glad!! 🥰
I've never heard it described like that, but it's spot on to what happens to me. No wonder i get too anxious to talk to people as a result, i feel so terrible when what i say is taken badlt
It's as if "non-verbal communication" (body language, tone, facial expressions) is a separate language, apart from e.g. English, one which is largely innate and spoken/understood unconsciously. Except by people with autism, who can't speak and understand it very well.
I know all about this.I was diagnosed late in life and what i have said as a joke has often been misunderstood as being rude
I'm not autistic, but i find this kind of honest communication to make much more sense than what is considered as typical
And that makes you a neurodivergent's best friend! We suffer pervasive Foot In Mouth Syndrome. Friends are the ones who take a beat to think, "That was an odd thing to say, but I trust this person isn't *trying* to be rude, so benefit of the doubt?"
I just take everyone at the words. Words should be people’s bond. Unless they verbally communicate to me something directly, I don’t assume their thoughts or emotions. I tell neurotypical people it’s on them to use their words, I’m not going to read passive body language. Also I don’t assume malice if I’m not sure what they mean, I just ask for clarification but I make clear that I havnt taken them one way or the other I just need clarification. I’m not autistic but I am neurodivergent. A lot of neurotypical people find me exhaustive in my communication skills bc I’m very technical and concise as to avoid misunderstanding. Also grew up with a lot of gaslighting so I’m hyper-vigilant in removing any opportunity to be genuinely or disingenuously misconstrued.
I've been thinking about possibly getting assessed for autism this past year. A lot of the things I've heard about it I resonate with, but this might be the biggest one. Even dealing with ADHD, getting misunderstood is something that has affected me my entire life. I always end up overexplaining myself to prevent this and even then the words never seem to come out right 😣 thank you for this video, it was comforting to know we're not alone
@@pnkhazrd I’m so glad it helped! For me personally having the diagnosis was very reassuring 🥰
Do it as soon as possible because it takes ages to get a referral
I also think i have autism and I've already been diagnosed with adhd as a kid. It seems those two go hand in hand with women
A real help for me was to talk with people with autism. Not having to explain every time is wonderful. It takes a bit of getting used to if you've always done it and you still fall into it from time to time. But, a 10 minute conversation with someone with autism can feel more intimate and rewarding than hundreds of conversations over the years. Autism can feel very lonely, perhaps you've found your people. Once you start seeing traits and behaviors, you find you see more and recognize more. I have tried youtube videos as self-help but not all are as genuine in essence as this one and clickbait or some shorts ones can leave you with more questions than answers. I watched autistic comedians, they perform the same act that they have constructed and they know. You can see and identify the autistic behaviors that go unnoticed to most. I watched a 14 part series in which an autistic comedian had to problem solve and convert thoughts and concepts into actions. To me their thought process was obvious but to others it made little sense of how they got from a to b. Their are tough parts to deal with when confirming autism but I believe it is worth the ride. It is much like revealing to yourself what you have always known. It can answer some questions and put some things to rest.
2:41 I hate coming up with an absolute zinger only for it to go unappreciated.
I think the main thing is keep in mind is respect, as long as you are being respectful dont feel upset if the other party takes offense. do not placate them, if they want to be miserable leave them to it.
You are wonderful, thank you for sharing and being brave to do so.
@@GLORYSURFER thank you so much! I will not stop talking about it until people listen and understand! 💛🥰
Omg I really feel you! I work as a sale person in a vintage shop. But since I did a lot of therapy, I can handle rejection, and also being a service worker, you learn fast that people are just mean ! But luckily fashion is my special interest 🥰
But I still miss understand people, and it's mostly just minor things. But when People try to do jokes, they fly over my head and Im like, what is happing? :O 😅
It's oddly heartwarming, even though it happens in different ways, that one of the most common experiences for people is being misunderstood. That really makes one want to try and be better no matter what, and give understanding to people wherever you go! Thank you for the video. It was wonderful!!
I'd love to hear about your experience with music!! Were you at a practice for a band you're in, or just one around you? And what are some of your favorite artists and tracks? Hope you have a good one Holly!! :D
@@jameskuckkan2326 thanks - I will definitely do a video about my love of music and include your questions! 🥰
Yeah, I got to that bit in the video and immediately pictured you shredding a bass in a metal band.
😀
@@JoJeromeMP 😆 not quite haha… although I really want to learn bass guitar!!
I have had to really think before I speak, for that very reason. It is very tiring.
It's funny to me how as an autistic, I struggle with rejection sensitivity and being misunderstood while simultaneously do the exact same thing to others in return. Im blunt and honest and have good intentions but have a hard time receiving blunt response's back. I often mistake good intentions as rude or having upset the other person and this makes for extreme people pleasing which usually only exasperates the situation.
I crave for all my conversations to be in an autistic bubble. It is so much less draining. This video despite one way was spoken very much like that for me. Outside of this I do say, I can have a 5 minute conversation and think about it for 2 days. Questioning what I said, and what I could, should, would say differently. I'm confused by and miss social cues because my mental processing is concerned with tangible concepts rather than to the misleading, coded metaphors contained in so much communication. My theory in Autism of antonymous responses is that it may be delivered by a function of the innocent and straightforward childlike mind. I'm not using childlike to infer immature but, that of curiosity and honesty. Some people are so overwhelmingly conditioned to layering a meandering cryptic weaving of words to everything that they say, that when an innocent two or three word comment is made to them they have no immediate avenue to comment or add to it as it doesn't fit the narrative of their usual conversational practices. Very often and it is very often their response can appear slightly curt. I do not believe in most cases it is meant that way, but more a human instinct or reflex that removes their own usual filtering to overrides the brief social unease they experience and to stabilize their internal sense of equilibrium.
I tend to obsess a lot over what words I will say to someone as I'm worried I might unintentionally say the wrong thing but overlook the fact that it's the tone that usually matters more. Much of the time people aren't listening much at all to the words but to things like tone of voice, emotion and body language and this is where I really struggle. Maybe it's like being an actor where we can learn the script but still get the performance wrong (in other people's view anyway).
This is such a part of my daily existence, my most common "Nightmare" is me trying to convey important information and no one is understanding what I say.
In extreme cases, I get hit with Situational Mutism for a few days or weeks.
It's so maddening when an NT can say X and it's all good, but if I say X, it's rude, nonsensical, a dumb idea, whatever. Arrrggghhh!
I feel ya!
I don't think a lot of the public know anything about autism.
This video was so helpful. Thank you! 😊😊
You have beautiful natural hair! ❤
The more I learn about Autism, the more I identify with it. But I don’t think I have it, just have some similar traits. The only reason I am now learning about it more is because I have recently started dating a lady who has an Autistic teenage boy, and want to be as informed and understanding as possible before I finally get to meet him.
@@GarryQuinn you are amazing for wanting to learn more and understand about autism for someone else… we need more people like you! And she will appreciate it so much! 😄
@ Thank you for your videos, they will be very helpful.
I am frequently misinterpreted. I speedrun a game and my opponent framed it as a threat. Imagine having to grow up losing only to have an opponent get hostile in order to prevent you from playing a game you love? It's sad.
Well, awareness precedes control, or something. I've opted out of any personal attachments to the fake and dumb games people play personally.
Love this
Hi I the things you said at the beginning I don’t think I would see them as rude. Myself, I was in a meet up with Autistics and they said I took what one of the Autistics said literally when it was meant as a joke. I just let my head drop and said oh!! We had a laugh. The Autistics telling me I was being Autistic. I know only too well about rejection sensitivity. I have tried to change it but it is still there. Can ease it by looking at good aspects of myself. For example I am interested in philosophy. I tell myself if I can philosophise then I must have the capacity to consider what is good so even to consider what is good means I must have some good. I do try to help others and be kind also. If you can reflect on stuff which you on all what you talk about then you want to consider stuff and reconsider. Therefore Holly is good. You are good anyway I would say from watching your videos. Also your spiritual side means you are committed to the journey to be good so there must be good I you.
Trying to think of stuff you might want to talk about. Mmmmm! Autistics are dedicated to being truthful being honest and seeking the truth. Is that a stereotype or true. Can be added to self esteem if one does that as it means ethics are within so capacity for good is within. That is to seek the truth is good so there is good within. Spiky Skills profile is something I am curious about.
@@fishinabox thank you so much I needed to hear this!! 🥲 It’s a lot easier being around other autistic people who get it! Ps thanks for the video suggestions! 🥰
I like really too to see you 🥰😍😘❤️
i dont know why... i subscribe...
Hi, Holly when it comes to texting by mobile to someone my words come off as misconstrued, and it frustrates me a lot. I rather tell someone in person or by mobile.
@@LateDiagnosedAutism either way I am doomed ahaha
@@HollywoodHRA hugs🤗
I can completely relate how you feel it's frustrating.