I was a police crime scene investigator for 10 years. I can tell you that there is nothing that will penetrate deeper into buildings or cars than the 7.62X39 round. I have been on crime scenes where the round went all the way through a house from side to side, lodging in the exterior wall of the house next door. I've also seen it travel all the way through the the trunk, both the back and front seats, through the person driving who was found dead in the car with the round lodged in the firewall of the car after having penetrated the dash in front of the driver. This is the A10 Warthog of rifle rounds. If you need to take out an attacker hiding behind a car, wooden fence or the interior of a house within a hundred yards, the 7.62X39 is your round. From a decent rifle, it is accurate to within 300 yards. They should never stop making this round, it was designed to be effective in combat within a hundred yards with iron sights and it is exactly that.
There is reason why some people prefer the latest CZ Bren 2 over SCAR-L/SCAR-16. The former is one of few platform that is designed to shoot 7.62x39 and other rounds, while the SCAR only stick with the 5.56. Given the fact that US now develop something like 6mm round that basically "heavy" intermediate cartridge, closer to 7.62x39 its just show how the round effectiveness.
Wow! And its a decent Deer caliber. EXACTLY why I choose this over 5.56/.223. I have a 16 inch AK..and I just got a 10.5 inch just like the one in the video. Thank you for your insight sir!
@@victorcoleman949 its very different from how the US and everybody else does it, and you can't really convert the russian/ussr method to what most people use today.
7.62x39 meets it's philosophy of use, at the range of intended engagement, ... , I bet the 7.62x39 will be engaging human targets 100 years from now...
@@HighSpeedNoDrag That's just pessimistic. No matter how bad things get there will always be rats and cockroaches, and people that will eat them to survive.
I think the longest I've ever shot was maybe 600 yards, and I did it ONE time. Most people are never going to shoot past 300 like you said. Hell, most people will probably never put 1000 rounds through a gun, but that's a different topic altogether.
Thats true but only because of all the other .308 calibers out there. If the 300bo was better it would of taken off when originally designed in the eary 90s. Dont get me wrong, i like them both but the 300bo's only real advantage if out of a supressor.
@@8166PC1 No it wasn't, it was for heavy subs. I've had an Olympic Arms which is considered crap by many chambered in 7.62x39 for 10 + years. the only feeding issues have been due to poor cleaning and bad mags from ASC.
@@haydendilbeck8151 maybe a few years ago. Now PPU is loading a 182gr subsonic, Brown Bear(Barnaul) has a 196gr subsonic and 174gr pills for .303 British work just fine if you score reloadable cases.
1) price 2) heavy hitting round 3) if you hunt with any caliber you should think about the size of your target 4) with this pandemic going on how can you go wrong.
Im running a AR 7.62x39 with good bolt and S7 extractor and one stored in the handgrip just in case something did break. Got all the bugs out and absolutely love this gun. It get the job done. Deer, coyotes, and targets. My go to thunder stick. Fires everytime.
I never calculated drop but I can tell you this, I used to shoot the SKS at 400 yds on a range at steel hog sized targets. The steel was at least 1/4" thick. It was no problem hitting them and it consistently knocked them down. Don't underestimate this round.
@@SonOfTheDawn515 they make first focal plane scopes with 7.62x39/.300 blackout bullet drops already etched into the reticle at 200, 300, 400 yards. Primary Arms makes one that is for both the 7.62x39 and 300 blackout both, since their trajectories are so similar, and you just sight in whichever round you're using at the recommended yardage, and your holdovers for range shooting out to 400 or 500 yards with those cartridges is already there for ya. Makes it a lot easier to consistently hit every shot, there isn't much thought process involved. I believed its referred to as a combat reticle, i forget the acronym, but, its also helpful for combat against hogs or white tail. 👌
Is that what you had to do to hit anything? There's always one..... No, you just crank that rear sight up to the range you're shooting and, like magic, it actually works! And it's a real gun, not a video game.
I have a Ruger Mini-30 and it eats 7.62-39 all day putting hogs down, coyotes and critters. Love the cartridge be it brass or steel. Not interested in long shoots as I limit myself to 150-300 yards at most at 77 years and iron sites.
@@michaelfisher7835 wood hammer spring + enhanced firing pin and a + power recoil spring it eats everything I’ve put through it only issue I’ve had is user error
Advantage of 7.62x39, it's less than half the price of 5.56 and easier to find during the shortage. Advantage of 5.56, it's easily reloadable if you save your brass and reload.
Also, Russian steel cased 7.62x39 is Berdan primed, so not reloadable anyway. Oddly, it is also more readily available than 5.56, despite being imported.
@ Kenny McNutt: 7.62x39 has an undeserved reputation for being an inaccurate cartridge, primarily because the most-commonly encountered rifles in the caliber are AKM/AK47 variants whose inherent accuracy isn't always all that hot. However, the cartridge itself - when manufactured from high-quality components and fired from an accurate firearm - is quite accurate. CZ makes some bolt-actions in the chambering which are known to be very accurate.
@@robertwilliams7876 Kinda. The SKS had a long enough barrel to hit accurately at long distance. The Dragunov was a different caliber, can't remember what it was, and I also can't remember if it was around during Nam. You might wanna look that one up.?. I really want to say it was though.
“Maybe a billion rounds have been produced” Thats an understatement. Millions of citizens have purchased 1000 round cases just this year in just this country. And its been around for decades all around the world.
You can still find wood crates of old steel core corrosive good stuff. Little harder but if that shit is still floating around I think it’s safe to say 7.62 Soviet will be here to stay
I tested the 762x39. it had a perdictical drop until it hit 220 yards. At that point it fell very fast. It is a very accurate round at certain distances. The SKS will be better at distance than the AK due to its more rifle like construction and longer barrel. I have 3 Aks. 1 with a really good scope then another with night vision and the 3rd with an Eotech. These 3 guns fill all my AK Needs. I Also have 4 ARs set up the same way. If you ask my preferences? Each round has its roll. I hunt hogs with my AKs and dear with my ARs. I assume you already know this so this comment is for people on the fence on the decision between the 2 different rifles. I hope this helps out. If it helped 1 person decide on a platform then it was worth my time to share my knowledge. Thank you for the videos you make. They do help shooters a lot!
How? This is the biggest buying spree on guns probably in my lifetime. Manufacturers are turning out as much as they can while some have had smaller output due to Corona. There is also a shortage on raw materials making turnout slower for some components. So again how are they supposed to keep things in stock? What do they control that would make the situation better?
Yeah keep the popular weapons in stock, hell increase your inventory on the popular ak platforms, I'm still on the waiting list for that zastava ZPAP m70 for Pete's sake
I've built 2 ar15's in 762x39...the "feeding issues" for the most part are a narrative that got painted early on when people first started building them...nowdays it takes 5 mins of research and buying the parts to make them 100% reliable...i would trust my life w mine all day...i have a di and a gas piston upper...here's a list of things to make them bulletproof 1. BRA Enhanced firing pin 2. Cproducts mags 3. Don't mod it w light trigger springs ...Thats about it...and if you're running a piston upper use atleast an h1 buffer maybe h2
When the amount of people willing to buy it goes away, then ya. Don't see that happening. I definitely intend on picking up another 1000 rounds next time I can find it.
Its easy to write off older cartridge designs but this one hits a very sweetspot in the midsized range.
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There's a Russian AK channel here on UA-cam where he puts to rest the myth of it not being accurate over long distance. He explains that imported AK's into the US have to go through a refitting when imported, but Russian AKs available in Russia are accurate right from the factory. He demonstrates from standing, 300 meter hits, six out of six shots (unedited), then prone 600 and 800 meters hitting the man-sized target in the chest - unedited he takes the camera to the target to prove his hits. So true factory AKs ARE accurate rifles.
7.62x39 still is effective for modern uses just as 5.56 or 308 are still effective. I do not jump on this trend of these exotic calibers that you often times can't find the ammo for (even before pandemic panic buying). 5.56 & 7.62x39 are the most commonly issues military cartridges issued in the world, no matter where you are there is a very strong probability finding either 5.56, 308, or 7.62x39, good luck finding .224 or 6.8.
Yep. Just ask Clint Smith from Thunder Ranch. He’s been shot by it , and lived to tell the tale. He’s got titanium rods and screws and fused vertebrae as a direct result of being shot by 7.62x39 multiple times
I need an SKS in my life. I really regret passing on all of the opportunities I've had over the years to own one for cheap. I'm gonna sound old, but when i was a kid in the 80s you could buy one at Roses for like a $100
I have two ARs chambered in 762x39. A Radical Firearms carbine that uses C-Point mags and a CMMG Mutant pistol that takes regular AK mags. They both cycle ammo perfectly. The earlier problems with light primer strikes and mags not cycling ammo are long gone. I added the 762x39 ARs to my collection because of familiarity with the platform, plus to take advantage of cheap ammo instead of breaking the piggy bank slinging 300 Blackout, 308 Win etc at the range.
I have a Riley defense ak made in my wonderful homestate of NC and I maxed out at 450 with cheap wolf ammo. I haven’t found a place with a greater distance to try yet
I have an ar 180 chambered in 7.62x39 and think its a great gun. Only problem with it is feeding and extraction with various types of ammo. Cheap Russian surplus tends to get stuck feeding into the action, and i've had the extractor break the rim on a couple of occasions. That being said, once you find a good ammo and adjust the blow back its stellar. Next to no recoil, super accurate up to 200 yards, and the heavier bullet means it puts deer on the ground in a hurry. Dont get me wrong, I know the AR platform was built with the .223 in mind, but don't knock the concept until you try it.
I like 7.62x39 because it's still cheap. Cheap ammo means you'll practice more. More practice means you'll generally hit what you're aiming at. Lotsa hits builds confidence. A local pawn shop was selling Wolf Polyformance for $4.50 a box, and since I would buy several boxes at a time, the guy would let it go for 4-even out the door. That party lasted until the virus lockdown. Now his shelf is empty and he doesn't know when he'll be able to get more. When and if it does come back, I think we've seen the last of the $4 Wolf forever.
Just like most calibers. They have their specific uses. If I want a hard hitting intermediate cartridge I grab my 7.62x39 AK. If I want a bit more precision and or distance I grab my 5.56 AR. If I want hard hitting, precision and range I grab .308 or 54r. Just a few examples I can think of and not saying some of the uses overlap each other.
It will work out to 300 yards. At that range you only have about a one foot drop, and the energy delivered is comparable to a .357 Magnum from across the room. The real problem with the range of the 7.62x39mm out of an AK platform is the typical sights on an AK. Stock irons on an AK are crude and hard to shoot well with for most people past 200 yards. But with practice and skill it can be done. Rob Ski over at AKOU just completed his 5K test on the new Zastava M-70. At the end of the test he demonstrated hits - four out of five rounds fired - on a man-sized steel silhouette at 500 yards. That was with the iron sights and Tulammo. Now, most people - including me - are not at that level of marksmanship, but it just goes to show what CAN be done with a well-made AK, even with irons and cheap ammo. But as others have pointed out, real world, WROL scenario, the vast majority of people will not shoot that far. If I had to defend my block against an armed Antifa/NFAC-type element attempting to impose a CHAZ-type situation, there is no way I would be shooting at greater than 200 yards, and 100 yards would be the probable realistic max range. Heck, for just my personal suburban lot, 35 yards is all I would be dealing with and for that I could just use my .357 revolver. Anyway, as a defensive carbine chambering, 7.62x39mm is the best there is IMHO. That was one thing the Russkies definitely got right.
I had been a SKS person for along time, and never got into a the AK 47. But did a lot of research on the AR47s. Lets just say mine with a 18" barrel runs brass and steel flawlessly! And its cheap AR "accurate" on steel ammo at 100 yards . lol.. The AR47 feeding problem ect, is from 5 years ago or you can't trouble shoot simple things/ search the web at this point if that's holding you back.. my $0.02. 100% agree with you that 7.62 is a 200 yard gun, yes people launch them out to 400 but the drop is crazy. I love 7.62x39 and 5.56 they both hold a great place in firearms history and sport shooting.
I fell in love with the 7.62x39 after getting some real use with it. I believe in it so much that I purchased a 2nd generation Galil Ace rifle in it for my own personal rifle
The studies following ww2 showed that something like 96 percent of small arm fatalities took place at under 100 yards but of course the Germans (7,92x33) already knew this in 1942!
8166PC1 and it’s amazing that the US army ordinance folks tested all of the advanced WW2 German weapons after the war and dismissed every single one of them out of hand. Yet the Europeans, soviets and Great Britain got the message loud and clear!
Any quality AR-15 chambered in 7.62X39 using quality magazines like the C Products Defense mags will run steel all day long. They generally include the slightly longer 'enhanced' firing pin. I also added the Hiperfire Reflex trigger with the $6.50 7.62X39 cam over spring set. I was having 30% failures with the very hard primer 50 year old Soviet Bloc ammo. Now it eats anything I feed it. Nice platform. Of course the AK's were born to eat everything which makes them a very ugly but functional firearm. I like both of them.
Shoot dude I a yugo sks unissued fired only at the factory! I plan on getting an ak when I get paid! Can't wait. I built an ar but I am not a fan of 556 but hey if you do than that's you.
Copied from the 8 mm German kurtz round chambered for the first assault rifle sturmgewer, the 7.62 x 39 turned out being a premier assault rifle round. For its size it outdoes itself. We’ve consistently knocked 250 yd steel chickens off with a CZ527 sweet little bolt carbine. At 250, the bullets vaporize in a grey cloud. This round is staying in my ammo locker for sure.
Have a Ruger American Ranch rifle in 7.62x39 have only been able to take it out to 250 yards but it does quite well - bolt action and can take Rugers 20 round mags without any issues...
There are civilians out there that own a quarter of a million 7.62x39 rounds.. I'd say it's safe to say that there are BILLIONS of these rounds out there
Doesn't anyone have a mini30 anymore. I have one and I love it. My mini30 loves the metal cased 7.62x39. I have never had a jam or any problems shooting them and it is also a great gun for kid when moving them up to a gun with more kick. It is a little heavy for kids so I had to put a bipod on it but I love it for deer hunting in the brush and hog hunting. I also have a SKS which I bought when they were cash and carry. Before I could afford a AR15 my mini30 was my SHTF rifle...
It was phased out when 5.45 was introduced and x54 reintroduced with the PKM. The original M43 for the SKS was an attempt to do everything from Machine Pistol _(AK)_ to light machinegun _(RPD)._ In the end the Soviets went the same direction as NATO with the 7.62x51 and a light infantry cartridge for the carbine. _(5.56 did not supplant 7.62x51, it replaced .30 Carbine)_
I was lucky to score a Galil ACE32 (7.62x39 rifle) and I agree the 7.62x39 is a great round, still the least expensive round at these "trying" time of no ammo...thanks for sharing
Just built a AR 7.62. Great all purpose round for sport shooting, home defense, and medium game at closer range. Love shooting it. Just be sure to get a Black River Arms enhanced firing pin to shoot cheap ammo. Does the trick well.
Took my first mature buck with an SKS and cold war era hollow point 7.62x39 ammo. Seemed to work just fine. I wouldn't feel under powered with this caliber for most things you hunt in the southern region of the US.
I have two rifles in 7.62x39. A Ruger American Ranch and my AR. The AR is an Aero Precision lower with a 14 1/2" Bear Creek Arsenal upper. I'm very fortunate that both will shoot moa with Hornady Black if I do my job correctly. Lot of fun and low recoil.
7.92x57 is my go to cartridge for my mausers. But if we're talking about a relatively modern rifle round, it'll be 7.62x39. Unlike 5.56 NATO, its readily available at my local store, reasonably priced, and my discounted SKS pretty much eats it all without a hiccup, even cheap steel cased ammo. ^_^
If you don’t like the magazines in AR47s use Unimags. They are super reliable and look just like a standard mag. You still can use the mags in other traditional calibers for the se platform.
300 Blackout is a fanboy cartridge. Makes zero sense. Can't do anything better than the 7.62x39 can. It's less powerful, less available, costs more. I guess you could say 300 BO has the benefit of using 5.56 mags and BCG, but if that's your obstacle you probably shouldn't be spending your money on guns. If you don't like the AK/SKS platform, buy an AR in 7.62x39. They don't cost any more than a 5.56 AR.
Now that subsonic 7.62x39 loads have come on the market, I would suggest that .300BO is the cartridge with little future as opposed to the most common small arms cartridge on the planet.
Last few years I've used my ak 7.62x39 and taken down deer at 400 yards in one shot using Hornady black sst. With practice shot before hand with a 4x scope can get a 5in group with 10plus wind. It's an excellent hunting round. Edit model is a Romanian sar-1
Gonna answer this now, no, it should not be phased out. If 7.62x54R is still in use, there is no reason to phase out 7.62x39. I have built 3 AR's in the caliber and they function flawlessly and are very accurate. I have not fired them to distances beyond 300m but for my purposes it isn't necessary to do so.
I was a police crime scene investigator for 10 years. I can tell you that there is nothing that will penetrate deeper into buildings or cars than the 7.62X39 round. I have been on crime scenes where the round went all the way through a house from side to side, lodging in the exterior wall of the house next door. I've also seen it travel all the way through the the trunk, both the back and front seats, through the person driving who was found dead in the car with the round lodged in the firewall of the car after having penetrated the dash in front of the driver. This is the A10 Warthog of rifle rounds. If you need to take out an attacker hiding behind a car, wooden fence or the interior of a house within a hundred yards, the 7.62X39 is your round. From a decent rifle, it is accurate to within 300 yards. They should never stop making this round, it was designed to be effective in combat within a hundred yards with iron sights and it is exactly that.
There is reason why some people prefer the latest CZ Bren 2 over SCAR-L/SCAR-16. The former is one of few platform that is designed to shoot 7.62x39 and other rounds, while the SCAR only stick with the 5.56. Given the fact that US now develop something like 6mm round that basically "heavy" intermediate cartridge, closer to 7.62x39 its just show how the round effectiveness.
Wow!
And its a decent Deer caliber. EXACTLY why I choose this over 5.56/.223. I have a 16 inch AK..and I just got a 10.5 inch just like the one in the video.
Thank you for your insight sir!
Yup, I just bought an AK from Palmetto State and after zeroing am putting up consistent 2 inch groups at 200 yards. That's with a simple red dot.
@Danila Makarov I used a ballistics calculator to help me but would love to know what the Soviet method is.
@@victorcoleman949 its very different from how the US and everybody else does it, and you can't really convert the russian/ussr method to what most people use today.
Alternative video title: ammo and guns we have in stock
I 2nd this
“We have in stock” but not for long! LOL
I third this
be kind, its hard for everyone out there...here...everywhere
basically, lol...
This round isn't going anywhere anytime soon.
As long as there is metal to be formed into cartridges 7.62x39 should be available.
@@jessesimmons4503 actually the hard part to make in your basement is the primer lol.
Yup Indian army is inducting 700,000 AK203s, also gonna produce it in India with a Russian JV, might result in Cheaper AKs all round.
8/21/21 Biden says it's gone
This aged badly
The fact that I can still buy 7.62x39 today at most stores makes it a great round.
did not age well
@@killinfantsons3193 my stores have it
This did not age well
@@angelofpain3890 I see it at every one of my LGS. Not sure what you guys are talking about.
@@angelofpain3890I find 7.62 at a few places but only in minimal quantity
7.62x39 meets it's philosophy of use, at the range of intended engagement, ... , I bet the 7.62x39 will be engaging human targets 100 years from now...
Laquer Coated 7.62x39 in preserved spamcans is the only thing that’s going to be left in 100 years.
I bet a thousand years.
@@Frignothanks Also boxes of Twinkies. Probably still edible!
There may be no human targets in 100 years.
@@HighSpeedNoDrag
That's just pessimistic. No matter how bad things get there will always be rats and cockroaches, and people that will eat them to survive.
I’m literally never going to shoot anything outside of 300 yards anyway
That's why my go to weapon... the Galil Ace in 5.56 has a sexy ass 8.5" barrel on it.
Are you sure? So if shit goes down you might be shooting 500 yard targets every day
I think the longest I've ever shot was maybe 600 yards, and I did it ONE time. Most people are never going to shoot past 300 like you said. Hell, most people will probably never put 1000 rounds through a gun, but that's a different topic altogether.
@@bigmad3123 5.56 has piss poor terminal ballistics out of anything shorter than a 10.5
What about un troops on our soil?
The 7.62x39 can do anything the 300bo can do... And a whole lot cheaper. It will never go out of style.
Except for bullet weight versatility that 300 Blackout has.
Thats true but only because of all the other .308 calibers out there. If the 300bo was better it would of taken off when originally designed in the eary 90s. Dont get me wrong, i like them both but the 300bo's only real advantage if out of a supressor.
@@8166PC1 Not really. Remember that its full name is .300 AAC Blackout. AAC wanted a subsonic round for the AR15 so they could sell more suppressors.
@@8166PC1 No it wasn't, it was for heavy subs. I've had an Olympic Arms which is considered crap by many chambered in 7.62x39 for 10 + years. the only feeding issues have been due to poor cleaning and bad mags from ASC.
@@haydendilbeck8151 maybe a few years ago. Now PPU is loading a 182gr subsonic, Brown Bear(Barnaul) has a 196gr subsonic and 174gr pills for .303 British work just fine if you score reloadable cases.
Brandon Herrera... "blasphemy!"
Nyet, rifle is fine
Nyet, ammo is fine
@@ТолянЖига nyet, soldat is fine.
Nyet velocity is fine
BLYAT RIFLE IS FINE BLYAT
@hudson Ivan says “I don’t need Magpul BAD device or forward assist. I just hit rifle with shovel. It work fine now.” 😆
1) price
2) heavy hitting round
3) if you hunt with any caliber you should think about the size of your target
4) with this pandemic going on how can you go wrong.
Regarding No. 4) As long as you Mask UP in your car by yourself, in a field with no one in sight, riding your bike. You are Good To Go.
@@HighSpeedNoDrag xD
7.62x39 is great for everything
Agreed!
Im running a AR 7.62x39 with good bolt and S7 extractor and one stored in the handgrip just in case something did break. Got all the bugs out and absolutely love this gun. It get the job done. Deer, coyotes, and targets. My go to thunder stick. Fires everytime.
It's definitely a solid all around cartridge. Can drop some bigger animals as well.
when a country has billions of these rounds, stockpiling for decades, its kind of hard to say "phase them out"
Should ClassicFirearms be phased out?
Most definitely
Phase their high prices out. Leave the 7.62x39mm alone.
ABSOLUTELY No chill LMAO!!
Should Classic Firearms be phased out? Good idea.
That is a completely absurd suggestion.
By far my favorite caliber I love my aks and sks's anything that shoots 7.62X39mm is my go to
I never calculated drop but I can tell you this, I used to shoot the SKS at 400 yds on a range at steel hog sized targets. The steel was at least 1/4" thick. It was no problem hitting them and it consistently knocked them down. Don't underestimate this round.
Its poor trajectory is its down side for engaging targets at range.
@@SonOfTheDawn515 they make first focal plane scopes with 7.62x39/.300 blackout bullet drops already etched into the reticle at 200, 300, 400 yards. Primary Arms makes one that is for both the 7.62x39 and 300 blackout both, since their trajectories are so similar, and you just sight in whichever round you're using at the recommended yardage, and your holdovers for range shooting out to 400 or 500 yards with those cartridges is already there for ya. Makes it a lot easier to consistently hit every shot, there isn't much thought process involved. I believed its referred to as a combat reticle, i forget the acronym, but, its also helpful for combat against hogs or white tail. 👌
As a first owner of an AK sir yes sir
Yeah and you were aiming 50 feet above the target
Is that what you had to do to hit anything? There's always one..... No, you just crank that rear sight up to the range you're shooting and, like magic, it actually works! And it's a real gun, not a video game.
I have a Ruger Mini-30 and it eats 7.62-39 all day putting hogs down, coyotes and critters. Love the cartridge be it brass or steel. Not interested in long shoots as I limit myself to 150-300 yards at most at 77 years and iron sites.
What brand steel case do you use thru your mini 30?
@@michaelfisher7835 wood hammer spring + enhanced firing pin and a + power recoil spring it eats everything I’ve put through it only issue I’ve had is user error
Damn 77 years still on the hunt. Respect.
Tula 154 grain soft points are what I use in my mini thirty. No problems at all.
The round is great up to 600 metres. That is still quite a distance.
Advantage of 7.62x39, it's less than half the price of 5.56 and easier to find during the shortage. Advantage of 5.56, it's easily reloadable if you save your brass and reload.
But at the normal price of 7.62x39, you couldn't reload it any cheaper.
Also, Russian steel cased 7.62x39 is Berdan primed, so not reloadable anyway. Oddly, it is also more readily available than 5.56, despite being imported.
It will never be phased out. The world love this caliber including me!!! Power, Reliability, and price.
Facts!
I’d take an AK over an AR any day
I got an AR chambered in 7.62 and im glad i did a couple months later when nobody can find ammo
@@JohnQueSacc what did you do besides use a enhanced firing pin? enhanced hammer spring? and what mag?
@@gizmorobtv8653 i bought a Windham SRC-762, lol.
2 months ago i got an early production unfired Type 56S-1 Chinese AK 47 for $1700 from a local gun shop really fuckin nice
@@Thrashmetal2130 ouch, but I have no doubt it is better quality than my post ban wasr 10
There are still cases of 7.62x39 at my LGS $5.50/20rds, good luck finding 5.56 at that price. That and .308, 30cal squad where you at?
Good luck finding 5.56 anywhere haha
30 cal gannngggg
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Your accuracy at distance also depends on the shooter. Just saying.
@ Kenny McNutt: 7.62x39 has an undeserved reputation for being an inaccurate cartridge, primarily because the most-commonly encountered rifles in the caliber are AKM/AK47 variants whose inherent accuracy isn't always all that hot. However, the cartridge itself - when manufactured from high-quality components and fired from an accurate firearm - is quite accurate. CZ makes some bolt-actions in the chambering which are known to be very accurate.
Wasn't it used as sniper rifle in nam?
@@robertwilliams7876 Kinda. The SKS had a long enough barrel to hit accurately at long distance. The Dragunov was a different caliber, can't remember what it was, and I also can't remember if it was around during Nam. You might wanna look that one up.?. I really want to say it was though.
@@KennyMcNutt1321 dragunov is chambered in the 7.62x53R my good sir 😁👍🏻
7,62x54r
The title is absurd. I’ll watch no more.
“Phased out”. I call Click Bate!!!!
This guy gets it 🤣
Bait
Only thing ever in stock. So no.
“Maybe a billion rounds have been produced”
Thats an understatement. Millions of citizens have purchased 1000 round cases just this year in just this country. And its been around for decades all around the world.
You can still find wood crates of old steel core corrosive good stuff. Little harder but if that shit is still floating around I think it’s safe to say 7.62 Soviet will be here to stay
I wouldn't be surprised to hear that 7.62x39 production worldwide from 1943 to date has approached a trillion rounds...
7.62x39 is very effective in short barrels, it doesnt lose as much velocity where as the 5.56 is velocity dependent
I tested the 762x39. it had a perdictical drop until it hit 220 yards. At that point it fell very fast. It is a very accurate round at certain distances. The SKS will be better at distance than the AK due to its more rifle like construction and longer barrel. I have 3 Aks. 1 with a really good scope then another with night vision and the 3rd with an Eotech. These 3 guns fill all my AK Needs. I Also have 4 ARs set up the same way. If you ask my preferences? Each round has its roll. I hunt hogs with my AKs and dear with my ARs. I assume you already know this so this comment is for people on the fence on the decision between the 2 different rifles. I hope this helps out. If it helped 1 person decide on a platform then it was worth my time to share my knowledge. Thank you for the videos you make. They do help shooters a lot!
So, to save you 13 minutes of your life, the answer is.... no 🙄
Keep the rifles in stock...
How? This is the biggest buying spree on guns probably in my lifetime. Manufacturers are turning out as much as they can while some have had smaller output due to Corona. There is also a shortage on raw materials making turnout slower for some components. So again how are they supposed to keep things in stock? What do they control that would make the situation better?
It's election year good luck lol
Yeah keep the popular weapons in stock, hell increase your inventory on the popular ak platforms, I'm still on the waiting list for that zastava ZPAP m70 for Pete's sake
Believe me, Classic Firearms would like to offer you as many firearms as possible as often as possible.
They would have stop selling them to do that. Demand is higher than supply at this time.
I’m not shooting anything beyond 200 yards…so I’m good with 7.62x39. Works great in my CSA VZ58.
VZ.58💯💪
Go and watch Robski's video on the ZPAP Z10. Hitting steel at 512 yds with the 7.62x39
Watched that video. And pretty damn amazing if you ask me
@@jackwine1946 Doubly so, seeing as he’s using iron sights
I've built 2 ar15's in 762x39...the "feeding issues" for the most part are a narrative that got painted early on when people first started building them...nowdays it takes 5 mins of research and buying the parts to make them 100% reliable...i would trust my life w mine all day...i have a di and a gas piston upper...here's a list of things to make them bulletproof
1. BRA Enhanced firing pin
2. Cproducts mags
3. Don't mod it w light trigger springs
...Thats about it...and if you're running a piston upper use atleast an h1 buffer maybe h2
Its the best round for a home defence carbine, it works great with short barrels
7.62x39 should it be phased out... yeah let's get rid of 9mm and 5.56 while we're at it too 🤦♂️
When the amount of people willing to buy it goes away, then ya. Don't see that happening. I definitely intend on picking up another 1000 rounds next time I can find it.
SGAmmo 1000rds Wolf FMJ or Red Army or Golden Tiger for $0.34 to $0.35 a round. Happy hunting.
pretty good round been used since the late 40s and still used by Finland and serbian military
Its easy to write off older cartridge designs but this one hits a very sweetspot in the midsized range.
There's a Russian AK channel here on UA-cam where he puts to rest the myth of it not being accurate over long distance. He explains that imported AK's into the US have to go through a refitting when imported, but Russian AKs available in Russia are accurate right from the factory.
He demonstrates from standing, 300 meter hits, six out of six shots (unedited), then prone 600 and 800 meters hitting the man-sized target in the chest - unedited he takes the camera to the target to prove his hits.
So true factory AKs ARE accurate rifles.
7.62x39 still is effective for modern uses just as 5.56 or 308 are still effective. I do not jump on this trend of these exotic calibers that you often times can't find the ammo for (even before pandemic panic buying). 5.56 & 7.62x39 are the most commonly issues military cartridges issued in the world, no matter where you are there is a very strong probability finding either 5.56, 308, or 7.62x39, good luck finding .224 or 6.8.
I bought a CZ 527 carbine in 7.62x39 and that is when I realized how accurate and useful that round is. Love it !
Want one
I want 1 of those, and the Ruger ranch too.
I got the Ruger ranch 7.62x39. It’s the most accurate economical round I own
7.62x39 is a great all around round. I would not want to be on the business end of it.
Truth
Yep. Just ask Clint Smith from Thunder Ranch. He’s been shot by it , and lived to tell the tale. He’s got titanium rods and screws and fused vertebrae as a direct result of being shot by 7.62x39 multiple times
7.62×39 is the only ammo I've been able to find close to the same price I was paying 8 months ago. Or even the only round I can find at all
I need an SKS in my life. I really regret passing on all of the opportunities I've had over the years to own one for cheap. I'm gonna sound old, but when i was a kid in the 80s you could buy one at Roses for like a $100
I have two ARs chambered in 762x39. A Radical Firearms carbine that uses C-Point mags and a CMMG Mutant pistol that takes regular AK mags. They both cycle ammo perfectly. The earlier problems with light primer strikes and mags not cycling ammo are long gone. I added the 762x39 ARs to my collection because of familiarity with the platform, plus to take advantage of cheap ammo instead of breaking the piggy bank slinging 300 Blackout, 308 Win etc at the range.
I hunt with using 154 Grain Soft Points! Drop deer and pigs where they stand!
Using that stuff as my self defense ammo in my Galil Ace.
I have a Riley defense ak made in my wonderful homestate of NC and I maxed out at 450 with cheap wolf ammo. I haven’t found a place with a greater distance to try yet
Bad ass!
Easy to claim ! Harder to prove! Opportunity awakens!
7.62 by 39 will never be obsolete it is one of the best general-purpose rounds ever and it's super cheap and you can stack it deep
I have an ar 180 chambered in 7.62x39 and think its a great gun. Only problem with it is feeding and extraction with various types of ammo. Cheap Russian surplus tends to get stuck feeding into the action, and i've had the extractor break the rim on a couple of occasions. That being said, once you find a good ammo and adjust the blow back its stellar. Next to no recoil, super accurate up to 200 yards, and the heavier bullet means it puts deer on the ground in a hurry. Dont get me wrong, I know the AR platform was built with the .223 in mind, but don't knock the concept until you try it.
I like 7.62x39 because it's still cheap. Cheap ammo means you'll practice more. More practice means you'll generally hit what you're aiming at. Lotsa hits builds confidence. A local pawn shop was selling Wolf Polyformance for $4.50 a box, and since I would buy several boxes at a time, the guy would let it go for 4-even out the door. That party lasted until the virus lockdown. Now his shelf is empty and he doesn't know when he'll be able to get more. When and if it does come back, I think we've seen the last of the $4 Wolf forever.
Just like most calibers. They have their specific uses. If I want a hard hitting intermediate cartridge I grab my 7.62x39 AK. If I want a bit more precision and or distance I grab my 5.56 AR. If I want hard hitting, precision and range I grab .308 or 54r. Just a few examples I can think of and not saying some of the uses overlap each other.
I've used an sks for years deer hunting. Excellent caliber, scored several nice bucks over the years. I also shoot 7.62x39 for fun. Sooo much fun!
7.62x39 is the world's favorite cartridge for a reason .... Been building AR's during the VID lockdown ... My go to is still the AK ...
7.62x39mm is a good big game, short-range hunting round as well... Comparable to the 30-30 Winchester.
SKS 7,62X39 MY GUN FROM ARMY IN YUGOSLAVIA.VERY NICE GUN 👍👍👍
Why would anyone want to phase out 7.62×39?
What would be the benefit, and to whom?
@regalblue41 that all may be true, but this video and question about phasing out 7.62x39 is from a gun guy/firearms dealer, not a liberal Democrat
It will work out to 300 yards. At that range you only have about a one foot drop, and the energy delivered is comparable to a .357 Magnum from across the room.
The real problem with the range of the 7.62x39mm out of an AK platform is the typical sights on an AK. Stock irons on an AK are crude and hard to shoot well with for most people past 200 yards. But with practice and skill it can be done.
Rob Ski over at AKOU just completed his 5K test on the new Zastava M-70. At the end of the test he demonstrated hits - four out of five rounds fired - on a man-sized steel silhouette at 500 yards. That was with the iron sights and Tulammo. Now, most people - including me - are not at that level of marksmanship, but it just goes to show what CAN be done with a well-made AK, even with irons and cheap ammo.
But as others have pointed out, real world, WROL scenario, the vast majority of people will not shoot that far. If I had to defend my block against an armed Antifa/NFAC-type element attempting to impose a CHAZ-type situation, there is no way I would be shooting at greater than 200 yards, and 100 yards would be the probable realistic max range. Heck, for just my personal suburban lot, 35 yards is all I would be dealing with and for that I could just use my .357 revolver.
Anyway, as a defensive carbine chambering, 7.62x39mm is the best there is IMHO. That was one thing the Russkies definitely got right.
snek Ballistically 300BLK is just about the same as 7.62x39mm, but it is more expensive.
Probably my favorite round I've ever shot. Wonderful round that does what it needs to do. 👏
I had been a SKS person for along time, and never got into a the AK 47. But did a lot of research on the AR47s. Lets just say mine with a 18" barrel runs brass and steel flawlessly! And its cheap AR "accurate" on steel ammo at 100 yards . lol.. The AR47 feeding problem ect, is from 5 years ago or you can't trouble shoot simple things/ search the web at this point if that's holding you back.. my $0.02.
100% agree with you that 7.62 is a 200 yard gun, yes people launch them out to 400 but the drop is crazy. I love 7.62x39 and 5.56 they both hold a great place in firearms history and sport shooting.
Just shot some last night to pop tannerite, and my father has used it hunting. It's a great round.
I fell in love with the 7.62x39 after getting some real use with it. I believe in it so much that I purchased a 2nd generation Galil Ace rifle in it for my own personal rifle
You don’t really know what you are talking about.
This is the first video of his I’ve watched and I was not impressed. Click bait title and information that is not accurate.
Ok
Lol
The studies following ww2 showed that something like 96 percent of small arm fatalities took place at under 100 yards but of course the Germans (7,92x33) already knew this in 1942!
8166PC1 and it’s amazing that the US army ordinance folks tested all of the advanced WW2 German weapons after the war and dismissed every single one of them out of hand. Yet the Europeans, soviets and Great Britain got the message loud and clear!
Any quality AR-15 chambered in 7.62X39 using quality magazines like the C Products Defense mags will run steel all day long. They generally include the slightly longer 'enhanced' firing pin. I also added the Hiperfire Reflex trigger with the $6.50 7.62X39 cam over spring set. I was having 30% failures with the very hard primer 50 year old Soviet Bloc ammo. Now it eats anything I feed it. Nice platform. Of course the AK's were born to eat everything which makes them a very ugly but functional firearm. I like both of them.
My sks is my favorite to shoot. Cheep fun and reliable. I'm thinking of an ak for my next purchase
Check out the amd65 ak platform. Folding stock, forged trunions, cheap, built like a rock and performs as well as a 1200$ arsenal.
Don't ever sell that sks . One of the most ignored great rifles .
Shoot dude I a yugo sks unissued fired only at the factory! I plan on getting an ak when I get paid! Can't wait. I built an ar but I am not a fan of 556 but hey if you do than that's you.
Copied from the 8 mm German kurtz round chambered for the first assault rifle sturmgewer, the 7.62 x 39 turned out being a premier assault rifle round. For its size it outdoes itself. We’ve consistently knocked 250 yd steel chickens off with a CZ527 sweet little bolt carbine. At 250, the bullets vaporize in a grey cloud. This round is staying in my ammo locker for sure.
Love my 7.62 rifles
Average engagements are sub 300m regardless of conflict... .3 inch holes do good for stopping people
Always wondered what happened to the guy from That 70’s Show glad you’re doing good bud.
Took my 1st Boar Hog with 7.62 x 39, flying out of a Ruger American Ranch Rifle. One shot, one Pig... Love this round....
Have a Ruger American Ranch rifle in 7.62x39 have only been able to take it out to 250 yards but it does quite well - bolt action and can take Rugers 20 round mags without any issues...
I would love to get my hands on one of those.
I use mine for plinking with cheap corrosive ammo. It's way easier to clean than having to disassemble my SKS's gas system.
I've shot 4 Deer with my Mac-90 and 2 Deer with my SKS ferst two years of hunting. Love 7.62x39
There are civilians out there that own a quarter of a million 7.62x39 rounds.. I'd say it's safe to say that there are BILLIONS of these rounds out there
There is just SOMETHING about the 7.62x39 that makes it priceless, and never to be doubted as a superb round.
7.62x39 is a great round 👌
I have an ar in 762x39 built it for like 450 bucks. Shoots close to 1 moa never jams I love it it’s my go to deer rifle for 100 yards.
Gonna stick around like 54r, cheap, packs a massive punch and a lot cheaper than .300BO
Doesn't anyone have a mini30 anymore. I have one and I love it. My mini30 loves the metal cased 7.62x39. I have never had a jam or any problems shooting them and it is also a great gun for kid when moving them up to a gun with more kick. It is a little heavy for kids so I had to put a bipod on it but I love it for deer hunting in the brush and hog hunting. I also have a SKS which I bought when they were cash and carry. Before I could afford a AR15 my mini30 was my SHTF rifle...
I have one love the thing.
I wouldn't shoot past 200 for either caliber in a 16" barrel imo
With a good optic, this round js good to 400
The Immortal absolutely!! I max out at 450 with cheap ole wolf ammo.
It was phased out when 5.45 was introduced and x54 reintroduced with the PKM.
The original M43 for the SKS was an attempt to do everything from Machine Pistol _(AK)_ to light machinegun _(RPD)._
In the end the Soviets went the same direction as NATO with the 7.62x51 and a light infantry cartridge for the carbine.
_(5.56 did not supplant 7.62x51, it replaced .30 Carbine)_
Everyone in 2020: Omg, this ammo shortage is crazy, 5.56 and .223 is unobtanium.
Me: *laughs in 7.62x39*
I was lucky to score a Galil ACE32 (7.62x39 rifle) and I agree the 7.62x39 is a great round, still the least expensive round at these "trying" time of no ammo...thanks for sharing
When you do these “how effective” videos you should do sone shooting with ballistic gel
Just built a AR 7.62. Great all purpose round for sport shooting, home defense, and medium game at closer range. Love shooting it. Just be sure to get a Black River Arms enhanced firing pin to shoot cheap ammo. Does the trick well.
One of my favorite rounds
Took my first mature buck with an SKS and cold war era hollow point 7.62x39 ammo. Seemed to work just fine. I wouldn't feel under powered with this caliber for most things you hunt in the southern region of the US.
I wish we could get some surplus 5.45 back.
I have two rifles in 7.62x39. A Ruger American Ranch and my AR. The AR is an Aero Precision lower with a 14 1/2" Bear Creek Arsenal upper. I'm very fortunate that both will shoot moa with Hornady Black if I do my job correctly. Lot of fun and low recoil.
Considering the size and history of just the Russian army, I would say we're probably closer to a trillion rounds of 7.62x39
7.92x57 is my go to cartridge for my mausers. But if we're talking about a relatively modern rifle round, it'll be 7.62x39. Unlike 5.56 NATO, its readily available at my local store, reasonably priced, and my discounted SKS pretty much eats it all without a hiccup, even cheap steel cased ammo. ^_^
Not the best headline or line of thought. Why "phase out" someone (or anyone's) love. What's next, my beloved 30/30?
If you don’t like the magazines in AR47s use Unimags. They are super reliable and look just like a standard mag. You still can use the mags in other traditional calibers for the se platform.
300 Blackout is a fanboy cartridge. Makes zero sense. Can't do anything better than the 7.62x39 can. It's less powerful, less available, costs more. I guess you could say 300 BO has the benefit of using 5.56 mags and BCG, but if that's your obstacle you probably shouldn't be spending your money on guns. If you don't like the AK/SKS platform, buy an AR in 7.62x39. They don't cost any more than a 5.56 AR.
Are AR's in the 7.62x39 closely reliable as AK's?
@@viscious_uv2 I have an AR carbine and an AR pistol in 7.62x39. Have not had a single FTF in either.
Now that subsonic 7.62x39 loads have come on the market, I would suggest that .300BO is the cartridge with little future as opposed to the most common small arms cartridge on the planet.
AK's are easy to manufacture, hard to manufacture well.
I got an AR built to shoot 7.62x39, and it does very well, holds .10 moa at 100yards with 16in barrel
Ak-47 is greatest rifle ever designed.
Greatest? Its good to 3 maybe 4 hundred yards pushing its accuracy. So gteatest rifle, not even close. But that's just my opinion.
Right on Hawk!!
Last few years I've used my ak 7.62x39 and taken down deer at 400 yards in one shot using Hornady black sst. With practice shot before hand with a 4x scope can get a 5in group with 10plus wind. It's an excellent hunting round. Edit model is a Romanian sar-1
Gonna answer this now, no, it should not be phased out. If 7.62x54R is still in use, there is no reason to phase out 7.62x39. I have built 3 AR's in the caliber and they function flawlessly and are very accurate. I have not fired them to distances beyond 300m but for my purposes it isn't necessary to do so.
Can’t think about a better urban warfare and defense round.
My Albanian Sks , is the best SKS ever 🙋♂️
That's like having the best AMC Pacer station wagon on Earth.
That like having the best Yugo car ever...
@@largelarry2126 beat me to it.
Is not albanian sks just chinese sks? Not a sks buff so
@@mrguiltyfool you are wrong bro ,take a good look at rifles and bolts 🙋♂️
This has aways been my favorite round ,I deer hunt with the sks and now have picked up a deer rifle much like the ruger. In the 7.62x39