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7.62x54R is closer to .30-06 than to .308, but it requires a really long barrel to get the most out of it because it was originally designed around 30” Mosin Nagants
Brandon, just FYI: You can put those gel blocks in a bucket of water and all the surface disruptions will not be visable. That way you can see the insides all nice.
I recall reading about the Chechens during their fight with Russia. Many of them said they disliked the 5.45x39, and really preferred the 7.62x39. Understandable.
No, not understandable at all. Like, at all. They must have been stupid and didn't do any ballistic testing, at range or on target or otherwise. The results are not negotiable.
No, it has less penetrating power. Far FAR less... what are you even basing this on? Cinderblock testing? That is worthless in the realm of human terminal ballistics, which is all that matters.@@fmstudio085
No, 7.62x39 Has less power in all aspects compared to 556/545. Effect on target is all that matters, and the effects on target from a 556/545 vastly outperform 762x39.@@fmstudio085
@@Tadicuslegion78 ( Imbel FAL looking at Modernized M14s, the rigged us trials and the tastelessly modifed M14s ) "you need all of this, only to have a fraction of my power"
Honestly just use whatever is standard in your country. When the bad times come, that beautiful 3,000 dollar 6.5 is gonna get reamed out to 762 or 9mm, or getting a barrel insert pinned in to bring it down to 556/545.
I used a 7.62 during my military service and the most fun part of that round was shooting targets through the trees. Also a popular meme about AK variants is that they're inaccurate. Well, I can't speak for all of them but the RK95 I used was definitely accurate up to 300m which was the longest range we used. Had no troubles hitting the human sized target at that range.
The memes are American because (non-reloaders) only have access to the cheapest of target rounds for 7.6x39. I am guessing Finland? You all have state of the art components... for the AK.
AK isn't as accurate as an AR simply due to the tolerances of the weapon. Which has advantages and disadvantages, hence the AK's unrivaled reliability. So you can get a smaller grouping with an AR, but its irrelevant in the real world usage. I'd take an AK over an AR, but an M4 over both.
@@AB-nv7bz An M4 is an AR, it's the carbine variant of the m16. AR is a platform, saying you'd take an M4 over an AR is like saying you'd take a Glock 17 over a Glock, or an L1A1 over a FAL. Also military M4's are not intended for long range accuracy either, your typical M4A1 is supposed to be about 4 MOA (you don't really need anything better to be combat effective, as you said, typically irrelevant to real world usage), in comparison well made AK's average 2.5-3 MOA and a decent free-float AR15 (which would include block 2 or URGI M4s used by SOCOM, where the extra precision does count) can easily achieve less than 1 MOA with the right ammo.
@@AB-nv7bz Nobody knows the AK like Marco Vorobiev. The former Soviet solider has spent nearly his entire life behind the sights of the Kalashnikov and literally knows the rifle from the inside out. Some say, “Yeah, but it’s not accurate.” I say, BS. The gun is not inaccurate, that comes down to the shooter. A M4, when you’re talking about 16-inch barrels - a carbine - an AK outshoots it. The gun is designed to strike at 0-1,300 meters a human-sized target. A M4, is out of range at 660 meters. If someone says it’s not accurate, I say, “No - you’re not accurate.”
My question is would David Chipman try to claim an AK chambered in 5.45 is an assault weapon? By his standard presented during his hearing it should not. As 5.45mm is only 0.214 inches. That would indicate it is not equal to the caliber of.22 let alone larger. Therefore by his definition a gun chambered in 5.45 is not an assault weapon.
I don't recall him specifying bullet diameter as the benchmark, just .22. His statements don't really have any legal bearing so if he were to try to actually codify it he could just specify the muzzle energy or powder load of a 22. Besides, .223 and 5.56 are both essentially 22s as well. (.22 inches = 5.6mm)
@@witiwap86 so caliber is just the diameter of the slug in inches? I assumed as much, but never knew for sure. Of course, saying 12.5 doesn't quite have the same ring to it as .50, so for once i won't complain about the imperial system being annoying and awkward.
7.62, because I have a ton of it. I got a case with each SKS I purchased back when @ $.99.00 ea. A 1954 model and a 1956 model, each with spike bayonets!!!
Easy. 5.45x39 is way better than 7.62x39. Lighter, faster, flat shooting and has that "poison bullet" effect. 5.45 is also a better penetrating round that 556, due to the longer projectile :)
truly a man after my own heart I really wish more western videogame companies would allow us to use it more effectively *cough cough* Call of Duty *cough* (give us more than 30 round 5.45 mags)
The 7N ammo used to be really cheap that is what I loved about it. They even made AR's and AR uppers in 5.45x39. I have a pimped out Saiga that I bought used at a local shop many years ago for $450. It's funny how many people like the 7.62x39 over the 5.56 Nato. My favorite is the 308 followed by the 300 Black out.
5.45 . AK74 was my service rifle. Even it's biggest minus - prone to ricochets, can be turned in plus - Yes in wood it's frustrating - 76N often ricochets from the three's branches with distinctive noise - piiiiuuuuuuuu . But shooting thru the window in a room with concrete walls there is 1 or 2 deadly post-ricochet vectors . I had a chance to play with that numerous times at abandoned structures at remote outposts. Fun fact - center hit with 76n on empty tin can doesn't produce any movement of the target . Looks like miss from away . Close look shows a small entry hole on front side and one giant exit hole at the back of the can . Actually back of the tin can is not just pierced but ripped .
Hello dear. The variety of 545 cartridges is amazing. Since 2002, live ammunition with a reduced chance of ricochet has appeared. At least such cartridges are present in his homeland.)
I love me 5.45. Mostly because 4 large mags of it weight eeeehh... Significantly less. It's just such a nice caliber. And those black RPKs are sexy as fuck, although i did not like the stock all that much.
@@Reriiru According to mine memories, the standart wooden stock of ak74 is the best for shooting, the triangle folding excellent for hauling around all day long and the plum plastic stock somewhere in between. RPKs standart wooden stock is really a weird shape , i did not like it too.
I started my military service with the old AK-47, in my second year, we changed to the AK-74. You can hardly hide behind anything against 7.62 AK, 5.45 is good for open fields and target practice.
You've obviously never been in active combat. Like, what a really really stupid comment. You will NEVER use your service weapon as an obstacle clearing device, that's what the mg guy is for. The effects on target of 545 compared to 762x39 are so vastly different that it's impossible to say otherwise if you've actually taken lives, before. Like I've always said, people judge 762x39 vs 556/545 purely based on how they hit steel plates/cinderblocks at 20 feet, which does not represent actual effect on target at all
Yes, I have never been in active combat and thank God for that. As for the rest of your ignorant comment...you are not a very bright bulb either. @@AR15andGOD
Can't really say I remember that certain scope being in Tarkov, plus the tac grips can't be moved right now, but that's more of an "AkFuAlLy" thing. But propes to devs even if non meta builds are left in dust they sure do look good.
As they say with engines, "There's no replacement for displacement." So goes it for firearms, "If you want to hit them with more, go with a bigger bore." Ok, fine. Maybe I just made that up but, I like it and I'm running with it.
They forget about boost pressure and RPM (like my car factory is 9,500 rpm, but it also fires 2x more per rpm than a standard piston engine so its effectively closer to 19,000 rpm for comparison sake). Then boost, like the engine my car uses is one of the most powerful mostly stock engines to use just adding a giant turbo with over 1000 HP per liter where most piston engines need completely custom engine blocks and custom pistons, and basically not a single stock part in them. Also the power to weight ratio on that engine is very high, especially for an NA engine. Also there are other replacements, such as fuel or oxidizers, such as NOS (oxidizer) or Methanol (fuel) for using extremely high turbo pressure. So, that old saying is no longer true (also due to reciprocating mass the big engines do not handle higher RPM unless they have extremely short stroke such as F1 cars since the maximum piston velocity is lower relative to longer bore).
@@ancientrenegade9243 Its not though, its 1.3 liters of displacement for the 13b. Technically if we go by rotor RPM it fires 6x more than a piston on its crankshaft, but I compare crankshaft to crankshaft since the rotor is on a 3:1 gear ratio. Its simply not, it would be closer to a 2 cycle piston engine (except the rotor undergoes all 4 cycles but in a sweeping elliptical path instead of linear and repeating). Now if it was a 4 rotor, then yes it would be 2.6 liters but its not a 26b (I have met a guy that made an 8 rotor turbo from bolting 4x RX7 engines together which apparently is easy but I'm not sure the RX8 engines are that modular)
@@ancientrenegade9243 again it's not, first we have one guy saying 2.6, now you're saying 3.9 based on rotation of dissimilar engine design, which is also wrong because then I would argue we should go by rotor rotation which is 360 degree firing cycle since it's just the crankshaft that's got its own gearing that you're pulling the number from and not really anything to do with the engine cycle otherwise you'd also be counting engine rpm after the transmission or gearbox which nobody does except turboshaft jet installation where they also don't care about displacement besides volumetric airflow as they only care about torque and RPM at output shaft as well as fuel flowrate**. In that example, jet engines are not built the same but I would consider displacement to be compressor diameter x effective pitch but true displacement would vary based on compressibility of fluid and some might also care about total displacement (so they wouldn't ignore flow bypass systems such as most modern turbofans don't have all of the flow go through the burner for efficiency gains compared to old turbojets), but it sounds like you would probably be counting the full engine size (total interior volume x rpm) in that example. From an engineering perspective I believe my approach is correct, as each pocket of air holds 1.3 liters of air ignoring vacuum of intake loss (otherwise turbochargers would be changing displacement which nobody changes displacement ratings based on boost pressure because that wouldn't make sense as displacement is clearly defined as diameter times length, or air pocket volume). Based on historical methods of measuring engine size this is the most logical and concise approach. I do concede that 3.9l makes way more sense than 2.6 though, as it can be derived in a logical way I thought of (different than your derivation). I mostly care that my engine fits in an 18" cube and weighs less than 250 pounds and spits flames and pops like you're racing through a warzone and that it puts a smile so big on my face that Im sometimes in pain from smiling so big and will get early stretch marks from it, but to me that spinning dorito makes my day and you can't stay mad when driving a rotary, so cheers!
@@ancientrenegade9243 I'm not really sure if that's the correct volumetric number, but assuming it is I'm also not sure swept travel is even the correct way to go about it (as air can move in a system but do 0 work, such as if I had a boxer engine but had both pistons travel the same direction, the total air displacement would be 0 even if we had infinite travel and 0 work would be accomplished). It would be max intake air chamber size for more comparable number (total volume of air being displaced from the outside environment). Also considering the entire cycle takes 360 degrees of the rotor to do 3 combustion cycles, I'd argue again that the geared crankshaft speed is irrelevant and would look at purely the rotor if you are looking at it thermodynamically (in which case you would want to argue that it fires "3 pistons" or "3 cycles" per 360 degrees and say it takes 120 degrees on average to complete a cycle) I still think per intake cycle it sucks in 1.3L/2 every time the intake port opens on the it (per rotor), so to me that would be 1.3/2 L per rotor, and that's also how you'd be approximating how much fuel to add for typical NA engines. Either way it behaves much more like a 1.3L high revved engine and pretty similar to a 2 stroke if comparing crankshaft to crankshaft rpm, I even pre-mix 2 stroke oil every time I fill up and its also about as terrible at fuel economy (less than half what I make with a 4 cylinder) so I guess its more semantics since its really not directly measured the same as a typical engine so I would default to how the inventor of the engine would rate it (for example I had an idea for a recuperating engine that undergoes an odd number of cycles, I would consider its displacement to be the first volumetric displacement), or if someone making a jet wanted to go with mass flow rate or static thrust or some other unit I believe historically the inventor has dictated the units (such as horsepower being weaker than ponies for marketing purposes).
I hear this argument all the time, mostly for hunting stuff. The correct answer is will it kill what your shooting at? If yes it is the exact round you need.
As much as I like the 7.62mm ,I would have to go with the 5.45 cause it’s easier to control and I can carry more ammo. The 7.62 will definitely do some damage but I’ve seen pictures of some of damage the 5.45 did to people during the Afghan war and it wasn’t pretty.
Facts, but let’s admit you go to a pawnshop or any other gun store say a random gun store, they gonna have 7.62 and probably have never received a 5.45 bullet in the store
I respect your decision entirely, though my heart belongs to the 7.62 x 39 due to it's sheer power and superior penetration capabilities. I don't own 5.45 unfortunately, but if I did it would be my primary home defense cartridge! Too bad a certain old man with dementia made that much harder, forcing me to stick with 5.56 for home defense (Still a good option though) 😕
@@TheTGRproductions I just grabbed one today Bruh, gonna bulk up on ammo and that’s it for me and I got zenitco coming, I do have a ddm4v7 that I’m doing a project on to
The 5.45 or 5.56 you name it, are basicly smaller than some convention allows ammo to be cause of it`s instabillity, which due to rotation sideways on entering makes bigger wounds. But you do you guys.
I’m a proud member of the 7.62 master race. 😏 We got 7.62x63, x51, x54r, x39, x35, x25, etc .30 cal is the best general purpose size for most cartridges.
People who willingly buy Mosins in the US are not Chads. Always the sickly looking kids with body odor, or boomer fudds who end up butchering them with dremels.
personally i like 5.45 x 39 for medium range but if i have a choice for 5.45 x 39 vs 7.62 x 39 for home defense or shorter range i would pick 7.62 x 39 because of the stopping power and speed of the round
@@ДмитрийКолпаков-ы9ьThe penetration of the 7.62 on hard targets is better, too. Heavier, slower projectile won't fragment like the speedy, light projectile.
A Polish man goes to the eye doctor. The bottom line of the eye chart has the letters: C Z Y N Q S T A S Z The Optometrist asks „Can you read this?” „Read it?”, the Pole replies, „I know the guy!”
I actually imported my AK from the Radom plant. I was honestly impressed. It wasn't the original Russian AK I'd been looking for, but I'm quite satisfied with it.
Funny thing is, I'm working on getting everything I need to not only reload spent casings, but even make my own ammunition. I already have some reloading equipment being shipped, and I'm saving up for a CNC Machine, and a forging oven. I intend to be practically self sufficient.
@@easternrebel1061 that’s badass, you should make some videos about it but also maybe not something you want to have openly on the internet in case these tyrants keep pushing further
@@RicardoSanchez-es5wl well ill have to save for at least a couple months as well as do some remodeling of the barn to accommodate it, but in roughly six months to a year it should be set theoretically. As for making videos, I mainly just shitpost arma 3 moments that I find funny or stupid. Honestly, I'm not really into going big time on UA-cam, and honestly given the current social and political climate, it's best I keep a low profile. This of course doesn't mean that you won't be welcome to any spare ammo, or even training and running drills , but ultimately I'd rather not end up on Biden's radar. Also, biden might not appreciate my PFP either because he ain't getting oil money for hunter from those guys.
@@erickolb8581 great mod, but shitty story IMO. The multi-player is great though and I love the overhaul they did with the sound effects and mechanics.
Very similar, only notable differences are that 5.45 has ~20-25% higher ballistic coefficient and thus performs better in wind. Recoil is also a bit milder and the steel cases lighter.
The real question we’re all asking. Where did the extra block of gel go? It was last scene being carried into Brandon’s room followed by violent slapping noises.
Fun fact, the Russians nearly adopted the 6.5mmx57 caliber when the Fedorov Avtomat was designed in 1916. Having studied a variety of calibers from 8mm to 6mm (anything below 6mm was considered underpowered, hmm!) they thought the 6.5mm caliber was most suited for automatic rifles. Eventually settling on the 6.5mmx50 Arisaka cartridge due to production issues and Japan having a ready ammo supply to purchase. Which is crazy considering that the US army is just now developing the 6.8mmx51 for it's next generation rifle, 100 years after the Russians said mid 6mm was the best type of round.
Yeah, the 277 Fury. It was developed by SIG Sauer in 2019. U.S. military hasn't yet begun testing it for themselves. However, if SIG Sauer's claims are to be trusted that new round performs better than 6.5 Creedmoor. Given the track record of SIG I do trust their claims. It's not an assault rifle round though. It's meant to be used in battle rifles, and squad weapons round, and it will be a replacement for the 7.62x51mm round.
@@scott_hunts Indeed, the 6.5x55mm Swedish round predates the 6.5x50mmSR Arisaka. Swedes realized the ballistic advantages of the 6.5 mm round quite a long time ago.
@@scott_hunts I have a felling that a 6.5mm/6.8mm might become the new universal caliber. It's the centrists round to solve the dispute between the radical 5.45/5.56 and 7.62 extremists.
@@TheNocturnalEvil nothing about military use but the 6.5x55 Swedish is also the universially adopted round for competition use in Scandinavia as a whole, and i can say that it's a great round to use as i've been in the Civilian Marksmanship Association for about 10 years :)
It's specifically the 7n6 5.45 rounds that were called the poison bullet. 22g Steel penetrator and a lead plug at the base of the boat tail. Contrast those to what the US uses m855 only has an 11 grain steel cone in the tip.
A “little bit” more energy. The 5.45 gives about 1000 ft-lbs out of a 16” bbl. 7.62 gives in excess of 1700 in some loads. It’s yuge diff diff. 7.62 soft points wreck.
I was gonna say, it looked like the 7.62(especially out of the RPK), did a better job of dumping it's energy into the target too. Like being stabbed with a knife vs being stabbed with a fence post.
@@snugglecity3500 5.45 is a better armor penetrator than 7.62 due to higher velocity and smaller frontal area. I'm pretty sure it will defeat IIIa at close range where 7.62x39 won't. The recipient is still fucked if they don't mitigate spall, though.
Got a lot of both ammo calibers. Started stocking up on spam cans of 7N6 when they were $109.00 at the local gunshow, of course this was about a dozen years ago or so. Really glad about that now that is no longer imported.
the black stuff is not from the bullet itself, it is what happens when the round goes through sucking air into the gel, the entry and exit holes then close up causing that air to get trapped in there, when the block shrinks back to the original size, all that air is compressed, causing a small explosion. It wouldnt happen in your body, only in balistic gel targets. edit: wow, you can see the flash from this explosion on the rpk74 shot!
I believe the black stuff in the gel is where the air supper heats and burns gel from temp stretch cavity. Longer barrel does it bc faster velocity means bigger temp cavity. Sometimes in other videos you actually see a fire flash
@brandon herrera : Brass 7.62 x 39 is made & exported to the US by Poland, Turkey, Czech Republic (S&B ?), and Serbia. Pakistan manufactures it as well. People do not realize how much ammo Turkey cranks out. They are killin' it with 12g 2.75" #00 & rifled slugs. SAR is even doing it in 3" but also in #4 buck. PSA - they hope to be manufacturing steel-cased ammo sometime in 2023 and maybe will support 5.45 ammo but unless more guns chambered in it are available 5.56 is more practical.
Things I loved in this video: 1) The Gel saying, "I'm out of here." and jumping off the table. 2) The smoke coming out after bullet exited the Gel. 3) Everything else. Great video.
@@TheRealZJE313 meanwhile russian special forces also use ShAK-12 - 12.7*55mm assault rifle, since 5.45, 7.62, 9*39 are not nearly so special. They also have silenced sniper rifle (VSSK) and rather large and badass revolver (ShR) for same caliber. So they use 5.45, but not really thrilled with it.
I’d like to see a video comparing 9x18 Makarov and 45. ACP, since those are the two rounds you said you were considering for the St. Petersburg typewriter!
Although the construction of the bullets vary, 9x18 is terminally pretty close to a really hot .380 and has similar ballistics. So looking up what, say, a defensive hollowpoint of X brand in .380 does would give you a good idea of what a defensive hollowpoint of the same brand in 9x18 would do +/- an inch or two penetration and they'd be very close in accuracy/range/drop/etc. Just in general. Not perfectly analogous but it'd give you a ballpark idea if you couldn't find any direct comparisons.
Brandon: We don’t sell the used ones. That’s kinda fucking weird. *Garand Thumb reaches out to merchant to pull down his used flannel* *Matt Carriker starts selling his used socks* *Mere sighs*
I have that same 74. Got a friend to fabricate and attach a cheek riser on the folding stock, added a tacticool 4 railed handguard and a hogue rubber grip... ❤ it.
When i spoke to medics out of Eastern Ukraine they said the 7.62×39mm was easy enough to extract most the time but the 5.45 was a tricky little fucker and alot of guys died on the table hunting it down bc it would ricochet in the body and be much harder to locate for removal
I stayed away from 5.45 because its availability was limited. 7.62x39 has become an american cartridge and even without the russian ammo, there are other countries that make it and with untold numbers of SKSs AKs, and other rifles, the round is not going away. At 200 yards the 7.62x39 does the job and that is my longest realistic range.
@@loquat44-40 5.45 was available at excellent prices for a long time. It was only after ATF decided, in their ultimate wisdom, that it was "armor piercing", that supply started to become an issue. And then prices on the 5.45 went up.
@@firstchoice14 Only on the internet or by finding a place that happened to sell it. If I had purchased one, I would also have purchased a life time supply. 7.62x39 even in these times is easily found. If I want a .22 I will go 5.56. I just checked SGAmmo and there seems to be no 5.45 listed, but they do have 7.62x39.
Brandon is funny as hell while still being informative. Some of the others have gone to just full-on entertainment mode, and lost a lot of the informative element.
Back when Barry was in office I bought a bunch of 7.62X39, and in one of the shipments I got a few hundred rounds of Hollow Point rounds. I put them aside & plan to try them here on my place & see how they work on our South Georgia White Tails. Just fine, I imagine, I just haven't gotten Buck Fever in a couple of years, but mebbe the 2023 Season will be the one to hit the woods on a Bambi Slaying Meat Hunt, as my Venison supply has dwindled down to an unacceptable level.......The question is, do I haul my AK thru the Brush, Briars N shit, or take the Commie Brush Gun, the ever popular SKS. Right now in mid May, I'm tending toward the lighter and just as effective SKS, but I know the Brush, Bogs and Briars won't harm or hinder either weapon, so it'll be a coin toss, or more likely I'll use both on alternate days until the freezer is full of Deliciousness once again
Those were pretty much all the favorite weapons I enjoyed procuring and using in all three mission phases of the game Conflict- Desert Storm. Good times.
These shots on ballistic gel reminds me of the video Angry Cops did when he talked about the training that army medics go through. They walk in a room with a sedated pig on a table. The instructor says; "Okay, let's fix this pig." Then proceeds to stab it in the chest. Looking at those wound channels in that gel, I'm reminded of how happy I am going through my days not getting shot...
Brandon, you should get a high-speed camera for cool shots of impacts when doing range vids and .50 vids test-fires you could see the action better if you film at 25,000 frames a second.
it really depends on the situation. as for most combat situations I would pick 5.45 as it is lighter and you can carry more. If I was on the security team at Jurassic world I would pick the 7.62 for more stopping power.
I enjoyed watching & listening to your bit of perspective on both calibers, I've searched through some other videos where it seemed like the videos were only a one sided theory about one or the other rather than comparing them.
I don't understand racking the slide BEFORE detaching the mag after shooting. It makes no sense in case there were 2 rounds, for example, left. Still one in the chamber. The slide is to be racked after removing the mag, at least this is how I was taught at the range class.
Yes part 2. Although I've heard the clear gel is "harder" then the organic. Still we all love ballistic gel tests. Could you do 5.45 vrs, 5.56? The old cold war show down lol.
Do a test with Hornady SST and soft point rounds on ballistic gel, instead of cheaper fmj 7.62x39 offerings... big difference. Perfect for hogs or even deer under 250yds.
I've dropped plenty of hogs with wolf 124 grain hp ammo. Was much cheaper, who knows now. 7.62x39 was my favorite caliber out to 300 yds for hogs. One reason being it was super cheap, and I have an abundance of hogs. I have counted herds up to 100 on my property.
Shot a coyote good kill zone shot he folded then got up and ran couldnt believe he got up after being hit with the sst rounds a year later shot another coyote with a soft round nose round made by ppu dropped him stone cold
5,45mm if I am to carry it in combat, it's 50% lighter. means much more ammo, especially if I am carrying loose ammo on me in addition to whatever combat load I am packing.
i was offered an ak-74 with 4 spam cans (7N6)for a ridiculously low price in the late '90s. but turned it down because i didnt want to stock both rounds. man i should have got that just for fun.
5.45 is the better bullet when there is no armor. The flesh damage is just insane. However, when there is some armor or you are fighting in a place where you need the extra penetration and hitting power - go 7.62.
I heard about 5.45 and 7.62x39 have same penetration power from Combat Approve channel on Ep23 A bullet is not a fool or six records of Russian gunsmith.
Shot some AKs for the first time today. Both 7.62 and 5.45. The 5.45 PSA AK was such a smooth and easy to be accurate rifle. Shot a 7.62 with a dong. Both were fantastic and going to be added to my wishlist
Thanks for watching guys! Which do you prefer, 7.62 of 5.45? Also what other comparisons would you like to see in the future?
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Hey brandon
7.62
Prolly 5.45 cuz it's cheaper where I'm at lol
Love you brother hope u have a good day💙🧡
7.62
Would love to see a 5.56 vs 5.45, 9x39 vs 300 blackout, or 7.62x54r vs 308 comparison video. Loved this one.
#akgnotificationsquad
The Caliber cold war
Concur with all these
7.62x54R is closer to .30-06 than to .308, but it requires a really long barrel to get the most out of it because it was originally designed around 30” Mosin Nagants
Yes!
7.62 x 54r out of a Zastava M91❤️🇷🇸
All of the above
Brandon, just FYI: You can put those gel blocks in a bucket of water and all the surface disruptions will not be visable. That way you can see the insides all nice.
You can also very quickly hit it with a blow torch, *note very quickly.*
He usualy just magdumps into trash.
And i love it.
Yes and you can also use a bucket of water to prevent fall damage.
And a grenade to double jump
I think that trick also works on white T-shirts :P
Brandon this isn't Tarkov, you don't find Russian ammo from hidden stashes for days anymore
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I recall reading about the Chechens during their fight with Russia. Many of them said they disliked the 5.45x39, and really preferred the 7.62x39. Understandable.
It's an urban legend. Chechen and RUAF forces use both, depends on specific mission.
You're quit right buddy, 7.62mm is powerful and has more penetrating power
No, not understandable at all. Like, at all. They must have been stupid and didn't do any ballistic testing, at range or on target or otherwise. The results are not negotiable.
No, it has less penetrating power. Far FAR less... what are you even basing this on? Cinderblock testing? That is worthless in the realm of human terminal ballistics, which is all that matters.@@fmstudio085
No, 7.62x39 Has less power in all aspects compared to 556/545. Effect on target is all that matters, and the effects on target from a 556/545 vastly outperform 762x39.@@fmstudio085
Brandon wasn't lying when he said his ammo would last 4 days...
Ye
I bet dudes got pallets
I gave you the 762nd like.
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Clara: Is 7.62 available
Doctor: Depends on the context, 7.62x51 NATO, yes. 7.62x39? No.
Few so we still have the better one, any other FAL Gang represents.
@@jackreeder215 M14: I use 7.62x51 too ya know.
FAL Gang: *beats him up like Omniman*
Is it possible to cut and neck 7.62 nato to russian one?
@@Tadicuslegion78 ( Imbel FAL looking at Modernized M14s, the rigged us trials and the tastelessly modifed M14s ) "you need all of this, only to have a fraction of my power"
@@Tadicuslegion78 BM-59 kicks M14's bootyhole.
As I like to say: "7.62 for the Revolution and 5.45 for war"
Honestly just use whatever is standard in your country. When the bad times come, that beautiful 3,000 dollar 6.5 is gonna get reamed out to 762 or 9mm, or getting a barrel insert pinned in to bring it down to 556/545.
7.62x54 for storming trenches, 7.62x25 for motivating those to storm the trenches. 😁
@@Mr.Bobcat1776 more like 7.62x25 for sweeping the ruined buildings
@Bonesintheocean.mp3 Reloading as a hobby is fine. I meant it as a practical matter.
@@maxpulido4268Ooof
I used a 7.62 during my military service and the most fun part of that round was shooting targets through the trees.
Also a popular meme about AK variants is that they're inaccurate. Well, I can't speak for all of them but the RK95 I used was definitely accurate up to 300m which was the longest range we used. Had no troubles hitting the human sized target at that range.
The memes are American because (non-reloaders) only have access to the cheapest of target rounds for 7.6x39. I am guessing Finland? You all have state of the art components... for the AK.
@bill8617 Yes, Finland. Also as I understand, the RK95 is one of the best variants available.
AK isn't as accurate as an AR simply due to the tolerances of the weapon. Which has advantages and disadvantages, hence the AK's unrivaled reliability. So you can get a smaller grouping with an AR, but its irrelevant in the real world usage. I'd take an AK over an AR, but an M4 over both.
@@AB-nv7bz An M4 is an AR, it's the carbine variant of the m16. AR is a platform, saying you'd take an M4 over an AR is like saying you'd take a Glock 17 over a Glock, or an L1A1 over a FAL.
Also military M4's are not intended for long range accuracy either, your typical M4A1 is supposed to be about 4 MOA (you don't really need anything better to be combat effective, as you said, typically irrelevant to real world usage), in comparison well made AK's average 2.5-3 MOA and a decent free-float AR15 (which would include block 2 or URGI M4s used by SOCOM, where the extra precision does count) can easily achieve less than 1 MOA with the right ammo.
@@AB-nv7bz Nobody knows the AK like Marco Vorobiev. The former Soviet solider has spent nearly his entire life behind the sights of the Kalashnikov and literally knows the rifle from the inside out. Some say, “Yeah, but it’s not accurate.” I say, BS. The gun is not inaccurate, that comes down to the shooter. A M4, when you’re talking about 16-inch barrels - a carbine - an AK outshoots it. The gun is designed to strike at 0-1,300 meters a human-sized target. A M4, is out of range at 660 meters. If someone says it’s not accurate, I say, “No - you’re not accurate.”
I unironically want "Olga the Trash Pistol" shovel sidefolder & all.
shovelside
She’s beautiful
Question:
7.62 vs. 5.45 - Which is better?
Answer:
9x39
Olga is fine women, she will never do you wrong and will fight at the bar at your side
My question is would David Chipman try to claim an AK chambered in 5.45 is an assault weapon? By his standard presented during his hearing it should not.
As 5.45mm is only 0.214 inches. That would indicate it is not equal to the caliber of.22 let alone larger. Therefore by his definition a gun chambered in 5.45 is not an assault weapon.
I don't recall him specifying bullet diameter as the benchmark, just .22. His statements don't really have any legal bearing so if he were to try to actually codify it he could just specify the muzzle energy or powder load of a 22. Besides, .223 and 5.56 are both essentially 22s as well. (.22 inches = 5.6mm)
You assume that idiots play by a standard set of rules. They'll just move the goal posts.
@@witiwap86 so caliber is just the diameter of the slug in inches? I assumed as much, but never knew for sure.
Of course, saying 12.5 doesn't quite have the same ring to it as .50, so for once i won't complain about the imperial system being annoying and awkward.
Could people use that logic to get around bans on calibers bigger than .22?
And what about flechet guns or the H&K stuff like the MP7? That’s smaller than .22 as well
Audience: "How's that ammo ban going, Brandon?"
Brandon: "...I feel like doing it 29 more times"
What an absolute chad
was that 7n6 ;( ?
7.62, because I have a ton of it. I got a case with each SKS I purchased back when @ $.99.00 ea. A 1954 model and a 1956 model, each with spike bayonets!!!
badass
I'm still mad at myself for not buying some when I kept seeing them for like $200.
*slaps roof of ballistic gel
"This bad boy can fit so many temporal cavity!"
*Keeps slapping*
Also, inappropriate sounds and Imagery. Yeah.
Brandon, as always, flexing on everyone else with all his ban ammo.
Easy. 5.45x39 is way better than 7.62x39. Lighter, faster, flat shooting and has that "poison bullet" effect. 5.45 is also a better penetrating round that 556, due to the longer projectile :)
truly a man after my own heart
I really wish more western videogame companies would allow us to use it more effectively
*cough cough* Call of Duty *cough* (give us more than 30 round 5.45 mags)
7.62 is better. better penetration than 308 and 5.45. 5.45 is only better at longer range
@@djjaysky9071 nah the .22 bullet penetrates easier and goes faster
Are you saying the 5.45 round is longer than the 5.56 round?
Are you saying the 5.45 round is longer than the 5.56 round?
The 7N ammo used to be really cheap that is what I loved about it. They even made AR's and AR uppers in 5.45x39. I have a pimped out Saiga that I bought used at a local shop many years ago for $450. It's funny how many people like the 7.62x39 over the 5.56 Nato. My favorite is the 308 followed by the 300 Black out.
Grendel is the best compromise.
Brandon yells “YEEEETTTTT!!!” *throws Russian rock at ballistic gel.*
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Jeremy Clarkson invented the word YEET in the 90's... Brandon has to yell "Speed and Power!" at some point in a future episode to complete the circle.
@@admiralfaffy Indeed.
Brandon: Coke, or Pepsi? Chocolate…
My stupid dumb brain: …Or milk?
why not both?
@@mrdeun3655 both is good
I only drink the finest Malk.
whisky.
This is my kingdom come...
5.45 . AK74 was my service rifle. Even it's biggest minus - prone to ricochets, can be turned in plus - Yes in wood it's frustrating - 76N often ricochets from the three's branches with distinctive noise - piiiiuuuuuuuu . But shooting thru the window in a room with concrete walls there is 1 or 2 deadly post-ricochet vectors . I had a chance to play with that numerous times at abandoned structures at remote outposts.
Fun fact - center hit with 76n on empty tin can doesn't produce any movement of the target . Looks like miss from away . Close look shows a small entry hole on front side and one giant exit hole at the back of the can . Actually back of the tin can is not just pierced but ripped .
Were did you serve?
@@TheSeanoops Bulgarian arny 1991-1993 , motor-rifle infantry. Conscription service.
Hello dear. The variety of 545 cartridges is amazing. Since 2002, live ammunition with a reduced chance of ricochet has appeared. At least such cartridges are present in his homeland.)
I love me 5.45. Mostly because 4 large mags of it weight eeeehh... Significantly less. It's just such a nice caliber. And those black RPKs are sexy as fuck, although i did not like the stock all that much.
@@Reriiru
According to mine memories, the standart wooden stock of ak74 is the best for shooting, the triangle folding excellent for hauling around all day long and the plum plastic stock somewhere in between. RPKs standart wooden stock is really a weird shape , i did not like it too.
I started my military service with the old AK-47, in my second year, we changed to the AK-74. You can hardly hide behind anything against 7.62 AK, 5.45 is good for open fields and target practice.
Yea. I heard Vietnam veterans say "We learned real quick upon arriving that trees were not cover"
You've obviously never been in active combat. Like, what a really really stupid comment. You will NEVER use your service weapon as an obstacle clearing device, that's what the mg guy is for. The effects on target of 545 compared to 762x39 are so vastly different that it's impossible to say otherwise if you've actually taken lives, before.
Like I've always said, people judge 762x39 vs 556/545 purely based on how they hit steel plates/cinderblocks at 20 feet, which does not represent actual effect on target at all
556 goes through trees better than 762x39 . Smaller diameter, less resistance, more velocity@@KINGRODP
Yes, I have never been in active combat and thank God for that. As for the rest of your ignorant comment...you are not a very bright bulb either. @@AR15andGOD
@@AR15andGODhe is saying you could shoot through brick walls and such much more effectively than with 5.45x39 or 5.56x45
1:20 side note: you can literally build this gun in tarkov. God I love that game
I literally recognized all the pieces, specially the stock lol
To b fair you can basically build any monster youd like when it comes to the glorious ak
Can't really say I remember that certain scope being in Tarkov, plus the tac grips can't be moved right now, but that's more of an "AkFuAlLy" thing. But propes to devs even if non meta builds are left in dust they sure do look good.
As they say with engines, "There's no replacement for displacement."
So goes it for firearms, "If you want to hit them with more, go with a bigger bore."
Ok, fine. Maybe I just made that up but, I like it and I'm running with it.
They forget about boost pressure and RPM (like my car factory is 9,500 rpm, but it also fires 2x more per rpm than a standard piston engine so its effectively closer to 19,000 rpm for comparison sake). Then boost, like the engine my car uses is one of the most powerful mostly stock engines to use just adding a giant turbo with over 1000 HP per liter where most piston engines need completely custom engine blocks and custom pistons, and basically not a single stock part in them. Also the power to weight ratio on that engine is very high, especially for an NA engine.
Also there are other replacements, such as fuel or oxidizers, such as NOS (oxidizer) or Methanol (fuel) for using extremely high turbo pressure. So, that old saying is no longer true (also due to reciprocating mass the big engines do not handle higher RPM unless they have extremely short stroke such as F1 cars since the maximum piston velocity is lower relative to longer bore).
Quantity is better than quality
@@ancientrenegade9243 Its not though, its 1.3 liters of displacement for the 13b. Technically if we go by rotor RPM it fires 6x more than a piston on its crankshaft, but I compare crankshaft to crankshaft since the rotor is on a 3:1 gear ratio. Its simply not, it would be closer to a 2 cycle piston engine (except the rotor undergoes all 4 cycles but in a sweeping elliptical path instead of linear and repeating).
Now if it was a 4 rotor, then yes it would be 2.6 liters but its not a 26b (I have met a guy that made an 8 rotor turbo from bolting 4x RX7 engines together which apparently is easy but I'm not sure the RX8 engines are that modular)
@@ancientrenegade9243 again it's not, first we have one guy saying 2.6, now you're saying 3.9 based on rotation of dissimilar engine design, which is also wrong because then I would argue we should go by rotor rotation which is 360 degree firing cycle since it's just the crankshaft that's got its own gearing that you're pulling the number from and not really anything to do with the engine cycle otherwise you'd also be counting engine rpm after the transmission or gearbox which nobody does except turboshaft jet installation where they also don't care about displacement besides volumetric airflow as they only care about torque and RPM at output shaft as well as fuel flowrate**. In that example, jet engines are not built the same but I would consider displacement to be compressor diameter x effective pitch but true displacement would vary based on compressibility of fluid and some might also care about total displacement (so they wouldn't ignore flow bypass systems such as most modern turbofans don't have all of the flow go through the burner for efficiency gains compared to old turbojets), but it sounds like you would probably be counting the full engine size (total interior volume x rpm) in that example.
From an engineering perspective I believe my approach is correct, as each pocket of air holds 1.3 liters of air ignoring vacuum of intake loss (otherwise turbochargers would be changing displacement which nobody changes displacement ratings based on boost pressure because that wouldn't make sense as displacement is clearly defined as diameter times length, or air pocket volume). Based on historical methods of measuring engine size this is the most logical and concise approach. I do concede that 3.9l makes way more sense than 2.6 though, as it can be derived in a logical way I thought of (different than your derivation). I mostly care that my engine fits in an 18" cube and weighs less than 250 pounds and spits flames and pops like you're racing through a warzone and that it puts a smile so big on my face that Im sometimes in pain from smiling so big and will get early stretch marks from it, but to me that spinning dorito makes my day and you can't stay mad when driving a rotary, so cheers!
@@ancientrenegade9243 I'm not really sure if that's the correct volumetric number, but assuming it is I'm also not sure swept travel is even the correct way to go about it (as air can move in a system but do 0 work, such as if I had a boxer engine but had both pistons travel the same direction, the total air displacement would be 0 even if we had infinite travel and 0 work would be accomplished). It would be max intake air chamber size for more comparable number (total volume of air being displaced from the outside environment). Also considering the entire cycle takes 360 degrees of the rotor to do 3 combustion cycles, I'd argue again that the geared crankshaft speed is irrelevant and would look at purely the rotor if you are looking at it thermodynamically (in which case you would want to argue that it fires "3 pistons" or "3 cycles" per 360 degrees and say it takes 120 degrees on average to complete a cycle)
I still think per intake cycle it sucks in 1.3L/2 every time the intake port opens on the it (per rotor), so to me that would be 1.3/2 L per rotor, and that's also how you'd be approximating how much fuel to add for typical NA engines. Either way it behaves much more like a 1.3L high revved engine and pretty similar to a 2 stroke if comparing crankshaft to crankshaft rpm, I even pre-mix 2 stroke oil every time I fill up and its also about as terrible at fuel economy (less than half what I make with a 4 cylinder) so I guess its more semantics since its really not directly measured the same as a typical engine so I would default to how the inventor of the engine would rate it (for example I had an idea for a recuperating engine that undergoes an odd number of cycles, I would consider its displacement to be the first volumetric displacement), or if someone making a jet wanted to go with mass flow rate or static thrust or some other unit I believe historically the inventor has dictated the units (such as horsepower being weaker than ponies for marketing purposes).
These days the best caliber is the one you actually own and are willing to shoot.
Can afford to* I'll shoot .338...if you're buying.
Hell yea 338 i love mine i load 300 gr elite hunter bergers in my ammo i reload
I hear this argument all the time, mostly for hunting stuff. The correct answer is will it kill what your shooting at? If yes it is the exact round you need.
As much as I like the 7.62mm ,I would have to go with the 5.45 cause it’s easier to control and I can carry more ammo. The 7.62 will definitely do some damage but I’ve seen pictures of some of damage the 5.45 did to people during the Afghan war and it wasn’t pretty.
Facts, but let’s admit you go to a pawnshop or any other gun store say a random gun store, they gonna have 7.62 and probably have never received a 5.45 bullet in the store
I respect your decision entirely, though my heart belongs to the 7.62 x 39 due to it's sheer power and superior penetration capabilities. I don't own 5.45 unfortunately, but if I did it would be my primary home defense cartridge! Too bad a certain old man with dementia made that much harder, forcing me to stick with 5.56 for home defense (Still a good option though) 😕
@@TheTGRproductions I just grabbed one today Bruh, gonna bulk up on ammo and that’s it for me and I got zenitco coming, I do have a ddm4v7 that I’m doing a project on to
The 5.45 or 5.56 you name it, are basicly smaller than some convention allows ammo to be cause of it`s instabillity, which due to rotation sideways on entering makes bigger wounds. But you do you guys.
@@greenghost5009 what 5.45 am did you get?
In 2021 - Whatever ammo you can find in stock is the best.
Pretty much.
I’m a proud member of the 7.62 master race. 😏
We got 7.62x63, x51, x54r, x39, x35, x25, etc .30 cal is the best general purpose size for most cartridges.
Nah, you don't need anything except 14,5x114mm
@@PyromaN93 It IS a bit heavy to carry around though...
Don’t forget 7.62x38R. It’s a bit bad but it still belongs to the family
.30 Carbine (7.62x33mm) is in there too.
@@tigerman1978 in most cases you don't need to carry it, it can carry itself.
the caliber doesn't matter against a katana that can just deflect all the shots
russian ammo ban: exists
Brandon: I'm gonna full auto mag dump this ak into that gel block
It’s true, there is no end to his dedication to his fans . . I mean all of us, uh . . Well you know.
Now the trues question can be answered which one is better 5.54 or 7.62?
Of course its 5.56 NATO
762 is as cheap as 9mm
Dragunov and Mosin Chads: “Wait there’s other Russian rounds besides 7.62x54?”
People who willingly buy Mosins in the US are not Chads. Always the sickly looking kids with body odor, or boomer fudds who end up butchering them with dremels.
"R"... 54R
@@rcstl8815 R meaning rimmed
@@andreivaldez2929 I'm a handsome SOB and I own a beautiful mosin. Its a damn good coyote hunting gun.
@@jordanwiser4192 Yep, everyone knows it doesn't mean Russian. I was just making his post clearerererer! It is properly labeled 7.62x54R.
You can see perfectly here how Brandon starts to cook himself in the texan sun
It's so surreal to see people still having sun somewhere.
@@tatianapreobrazhenskaya9777 LOL... there's plenty of it down here
I can’t escape destiny. Can’t believe top comment on the vid (at least when I watched it) was someone with a destiny profile pic
personally i like 5.45 x 39 for medium range but if i have a choice for 5.45 x 39 vs 7.62 x 39 for home defense or shorter range i would pick 7.62 x 39 because of the stopping power and speed of the round
What do you like about the slower speed of 7.62x39?
@@YEEYEE-dy8tk it's twice the grains of the 5.45 and bigger bullet diameter, better stopping power up close. In all other aspects 5.45 is better.
@@ДмитрийКолпаков-ы9ьThe penetration of the 7.62 on hard targets is better, too. Heavier, slower projectile won't fragment like the speedy, light projectile.
US : no more Russian ammo
Brandon : How bout we test some Russian ammo
Russian ammo may as well become a currency
@@adee3235 metro 2033 vibes
@@adee3235 Fallout, but replace the Caps with Russian Boolets.
@@adee3235 Our national debt is over 50 trillion rounds of 7.62x39... LOL
@@RealDavidChipman Yes, that's Metro
Edit: I feel dirty for talking to a weeb
“That was so nice I feel like doing it 29 more times” Flex of the century.
@@edm192 ha gottem
"Now, what you will see on 7.62 is more muzzle rise."
**shoots well built gun with almost no muzzle rise that fails to demonstrate more muzzle rise**
It is probably a 10.5 lb gun
@@jayyoung5627 with all that kit on it? No doubt, at least 10.5lbs.
what is physics Alex
Plus that muzzle brake. Thing's very effective
Now chamber that same build in 5.45 and see your recoil evaporate.
"Ass man" or "Tit man". I don't believe I've ever heard that analogy used for cartridge comparison ever. Very creative. Thumbs up.
The patriotic feeling when Brandon uses the Tantal. 🇵🇱
A Polish man goes to the eye doctor. The bottom line of the eye chart has the letters:
C Z Y N Q S T A S Z
The Optometrist asks „Can you read this?”
„Read it?”, the Pole replies, „I know the guy!”
I actually imported my AK from the Radom plant. I was honestly impressed. It wasn't the original Russian AK I'd been looking for, but I'm quite satisfied with it.
Joe Biden: Ban Russian ammo
Brandon: SO ANYWAYS I JUST STARTED BLASTIN
Funny thing is, I'm working on getting everything I need to not only reload spent casings, but even make my own ammunition. I already have some reloading equipment being shipped, and I'm saving up for a CNC Machine, and a forging oven. I intend to be practically self sufficient.
@@easternrebel1061 that’s badass, you should make some videos about it but also maybe not something you want to have openly on the internet in case these tyrants keep pushing further
@@RicardoSanchez-es5wl well ill have to save for at least a couple months as well as do some remodeling of the barn to accommodate it, but in roughly six months to a year it should be set theoretically. As for making videos, I mainly just shitpost arma 3 moments that I find funny or stupid. Honestly, I'm not really into going big time on UA-cam, and honestly given the current social and political climate, it's best I keep a low profile. This of course doesn't mean that you won't be welcome to any spare ammo, or even training and running drills , but ultimately I'd rather not end up on Biden's radar. Also, biden might not appreciate my PFP either because he ain't getting oil money for hunter from those guys.
@@easternrebel1061 What do you think of SOG PF? I hate the extractions at the end of missions. It feels like I'm fighting the entire NVA army.
@@erickolb8581 great mod, but shitty story IMO. The multi-player is great though and I love the overhaul they did with the sound effects and mechanics.
Would love to see a 545 vs 556 test. Since they're both more similar to each other than 762x39
Very similar, only notable differences are that 5.45 has ~20-25% higher ballistic coefficient and thus performs better in wind. Recoil is also a bit milder and the steel cases lighter.
I thought he was about to say "coke or meth" 0:01
"God vs Man, Day vs Night, The Red Cape are coming.... The Red Cape are coming....!"
Coke or meth.. Hummh that shows us where your heads at lol..
The real question we’re all asking. Where did the extra block of gel go? It was last scene being carried into Brandon’s room followed by violent slapping noises.
Lmao, too funny.
Dont forget the sobbing at the end
@@cloggedpitot1 best 7-11 minute video ever
I was gonna say: all that smoke coming out the back of the gel block was just a giant queef.
Sniffing noises first.
US gov: Russian ammo ban
Brandon: Ammo test go brr
#AKGnotificationsquad
Nice to see a fellow Welshman watching some gun porn
@@dylanblack8714 Live for the stuff mate.
Fun fact, the Russians nearly adopted the 6.5mmx57 caliber when the Fedorov Avtomat was designed in 1916. Having studied a variety of calibers from 8mm to 6mm (anything below 6mm was considered underpowered, hmm!) they thought the 6.5mm caliber was most suited for automatic rifles. Eventually settling on the 6.5mmx50 Arisaka cartridge due to production issues and Japan having a ready ammo supply to purchase. Which is crazy considering that the US army is just now developing the 6.8mmx51 for it's next generation rifle, 100 years after the Russians said mid 6mm was the best type of round.
Yeah, the 277 Fury. It was developed by SIG Sauer in 2019. U.S. military hasn't yet begun testing it for themselves. However, if SIG Sauer's claims are to be trusted that new round performs better than 6.5 Creedmoor. Given the track record of SIG I do trust their claims.
It's not an assault rifle round though. It's meant to be used in battle rifles, and squad weapons round, and it will be a replacement for the 7.62x51mm round.
I mean, the Swedes adopted a 6.5 round a long fucking time ago, and the ballistics were so good that it is still used today for hunting.
@@scott_hunts Indeed, the 6.5x55mm Swedish round predates the 6.5x50mmSR Arisaka. Swedes realized the ballistic advantages of the 6.5 mm round quite a long time ago.
@@scott_hunts I have a felling that a 6.5mm/6.8mm might become the new universal caliber. It's the centrists round to solve the dispute between the radical 5.45/5.56 and 7.62 extremists.
@@TheNocturnalEvil nothing about military use but the 6.5x55 Swedish is also the universially adopted round for competition use in Scandinavia as a whole, and i can say that it's a great round to use as i've been in the Civilian Marksmanship Association for about 10 years :)
That why 5.45 were called Poison bullets in Afghan war. People thought it was poisoned cause of tumbling caused inside the body
I mean ... 5.56 tumbles upon impact often as well depending on site of impact and bullet weight. 55g much more likely to tumble than 62 or 77.
It's specifically the 7n6 5.45 rounds that were called the poison bullet. 22g Steel penetrator and a lead plug at the base of the boat tail. Contrast those to what the US uses m855 only has an 11 grain steel cone in the tip.
it got the name because the wounds it created would often be infected with gangrene
5.45 is dog shit . It performs really similar to m855 which is regarded as one of the worst 5.56 loads
@@Dcm193 whatever you’re smoking I want to try it.
A “little bit” more energy. The 5.45 gives about 1000 ft-lbs out of a 16” bbl. 7.62 gives in excess of 1700 in some loads. It’s yuge diff diff. 7.62 soft points wreck.
5.45 is great until someone has body armour
I was gonna say, it looked like the 7.62(especially out of the RPK), did a better job of dumping it's energy into the target too. Like being stabbed with a knife vs being stabbed with a fence post.
I agree the soft points do major damage
@@snugglecity3500
5.45 is a better armor penetrator than 7.62 due to higher velocity and smaller frontal area. I'm pretty sure it will defeat IIIa at close range where 7.62x39 won't. The recipient is still fucked if they don't mitigate spall, though.
@@weege5.45 you saying that made me remember something. Isnt 7.62 designed to tumble?
An excellent comparison video! Makarov vs 9mm would be interesting.
They're very very very similar, like 9mm makarov is just a midpoint between .380 and 9mm luger
You mean 9x18mm vs 9x39 right?
That's the gun world version on "Hey son, you choose mom or dad?"
Dad or 7.62, easy!
Neither of them. I'll pick 9x19 mm just out of spite
That answers easy. It's always mom.
Got a lot of both ammo calibers. Started stocking up on spam cans of 7N6 when they were $109.00 at the local gunshow, of course this was about a dozen years ago or so. Really glad about that now that is no longer imported.
Here you have Brandon trying to sell 5.45 so he can keep all the 7.62 all for himself
Legend has it he did it for both calibers .... his stockpile shits on an abandoned Croatian Factory
😂😂😂😂
Brandon can keep that up to lol.
the black stuff is not from the bullet itself, it is what happens when the round goes through sucking air into the gel, the entry and exit holes then close up causing that air to get trapped in there, when the block shrinks back to the original size, all that air is compressed, causing a small explosion. It wouldnt happen in your body, only in balistic gel targets.
edit: wow, you can see the flash from this explosion on the rpk74 shot!
AK guy talking about AK bullets and the way AKs AK with differing size AKs.
reads like a post from Mars Attacks.
Wholesome content
I believe the black stuff in the gel is where the air supper heats and burns gel from temp stretch cavity. Longer barrel does it bc faster velocity means bigger temp cavity. Sometimes in other videos you actually see a fire flash
I’d like to think this is someone’s first video of Brandon’s, and that just tickles my soul in a funny way.
They get that first discharge experience we all had on our first time
This is my first video of Brandon's. He is humorous and to the point. Obvious knows how to handle firearms as well.
*Brandon Herrera releases*
7.62 VS 5.45
Me 35 seconds after release: *finally, we have something to watch*
Saying which one you like more is like choosing a favorite child. You definitely have one, but it’s really inappropriate to say out loud
@brandon herrera : Brass 7.62 x 39 is made & exported to the US by Poland, Turkey, Czech Republic (S&B ?), and Serbia. Pakistan manufactures it as well. People do not realize how much ammo Turkey cranks out. They are killin' it with 12g 2.75" #00 & rifled slugs. SAR is even doing it in 3" but also in #4 buck. PSA - they hope to be manufacturing steel-cased ammo sometime in 2023 and maybe will support 5.45 ammo but unless more guns chambered in it are available 5.56 is more practical.
Yes, we absolutely want second part, featuring .45 ak
Things I loved in this video:
1) The Gel saying, "I'm out of here." and jumping off the table.
2) The smoke coming out after bullet exited the Gel.
3) Everything else. Great video.
Gel
@@sheldoniusRex Thanks, corrected.
Everyone: What do you prefer 7.62 or 5.45?
Dragunov: Cries in 7.62 x 54r
Well the Russian army in there AK 12 and 107are 5.45 so I am going with what they Russians say
@@TheRealZJE313 meanwhile russian special forces also use ShAK-12 - 12.7*55mm assault rifle, since 5.45, 7.62, 9*39 are not nearly so special. They also have silenced sniper rifle (VSSK) and rather large and badass revolver (ShR) for same caliber.
So they use 5.45, but not really thrilled with it.
@@Daokl ok that don't surprise me.thanks for the INFO
Question:
7.62 vs. 5.45 - Which is better?
Answer:
9x39
@@crazysilly2914 *Happy chuckling noices coming from snow*
7,62 is more Destructive When it Hits, but 5.45 is a Rapid Fire Ammunition fit for FuLL Automstic Burst
Brandon: "I'll adjust for a little lower"...the round flips the gel block... - Brandon: "Damn, I'm still too high!"
"You can never be too high." - Willie Nelson
I’d like to see a video comparing 9x18 Makarov and 45. ACP, since those are the two rounds you said you were considering for the St. Petersburg typewriter!
Yes brother
Should do 9x18 vs 7.62 Tok since both are Russian calibers
@@astronautindisguise why not all three?
Although the construction of the bullets vary, 9x18 is terminally pretty close to a really hot .380 and has similar ballistics. So looking up what, say, a defensive hollowpoint of X brand in .380 does would give you a good idea of what a defensive hollowpoint of the same brand in 9x18 would do +/- an inch or two penetration and they'd be very close in accuracy/range/drop/etc. Just in general.
Not perfectly analogous but it'd give you a ballpark idea if you couldn't find any direct comparisons.
45 намного сильнее и имеет лучшую пробивную способность.
Brandon: We don’t sell the used ones. That’s kinda fucking weird.
*Garand Thumb reaches out to merchant to pull down his used flannel*
*Matt Carriker starts selling his used socks*
*Mere sighs*
Lol if you buy milsurp sweat stains aren't uncommon at all. Flannel daddys shirt would probably smell like some kind of fancy cologne anyways
I have that same 74. Got a friend to fabricate and attach a cheek riser on the folding stock, added a tacticool 4 railed handguard and a hogue rubber grip... ❤ it.
"that does a lot of the ripping and tearing"
Doom approved
I'm a .30-06 type of guy but that's just me. I enjoy a bruised shoulder and bleeding ear drums over target acquisition
Yesss. M1 Garand! 8 inch dinger at 800 yards, off-hand with iron sights!
AK Jesus: “Which kind of round is best?”
ATF: That’s a ridiculous question.
AK Jesus: “False. Golden Bear. Ammo, Russia, Battlestar Galactica.”
You mean Deathstar
We need general Adama back!
@@gasmegalodonc it's a quote from the office
Question:
7.62 vs. 5.45 - Which is better?
Answer:
9x39
@@crazysilly2914 7.62 or 5.45
Answer:
Both
*Soviet anthem plays*
When i spoke to medics out of Eastern Ukraine they said the 7.62×39mm was easy enough to extract most the time but the 5.45 was a tricky little fucker and alot of guys died on the table hunting it down bc it would ricochet in the body and be much harder to locate for removal
I still wanna see you as Wolverine we need it !!!
Adamantium AK.
dammit !!! why did you curse me with that. now I'll see nothing but wolverine. well now we know what his Halloween character coming up should be.
I agree. I'm Australian, but Huge Ackman is a bit skirty for a superhero, donchathink?
@@TorquilBletchleySmythe I agree he is a bit skirty for the character. Brandon Herrera would be the down and dirty version I think. 😋
@John Guy
Brandon is also closer to Wolverine‘s actual height
“Russian Ammo Ban”
Regular Chads: “Muh Ammo :’(“
Brandon Herrera: “So I started blasting”
Dudes probably got like 50,000 rounds in his shed
@@The_Honcho exactly why he can just keep going regular uploads
I stayed away from 5.45 because its availability was limited. 7.62x39 has become an american cartridge and even without the russian ammo, there are other countries that make it and with untold numbers of SKSs AKs, and other rifles, the round is not going away. At 200 yards the 7.62x39 does the job and that is my longest realistic range.
@@loquat44-40 5.45 was available at excellent prices for a long time. It was only after ATF decided, in their ultimate wisdom, that it was "armor piercing", that supply started to become an issue. And then prices on the 5.45 went up.
@@firstchoice14 Only on the internet or by finding a place that happened to sell it. If I had purchased one, I would also have purchased a life time supply. 7.62x39 even in these times is easily found. If I want a .22 I will go 5.56. I just checked SGAmmo and there seems to be no 5.45 listed, but they do have 7.62x39.
Good video! Would like to see a 556 vs 545 comparison
Got my custom 5.45ar barrel a few months back. Its zombie green and I can't wait to finish that build
Brandon had some beautiful one liners packed with knowledge this episode, you got a few genuine laughs out of me
Brandon is funny as hell while still being informative. Some of the others have gone to just full-on entertainment mode, and lost a lot of the informative element.
I love how you don't need crazy hollow points for both rounds. They're designed to do Damage on their own
That's for most rifle calibers in general
You say that, but see gelatin test if Barnaul sp, then tell me that. Or even better, HORNADY SST.
Yes, thank you Captain Obvious, bullets do in fact, do damage on their own.
Back when Barry was in office I bought a bunch of 7.62X39, and in one of the shipments I got a few hundred rounds of Hollow Point rounds. I put them aside & plan to try them here on my place & see how they work on our South Georgia White Tails. Just fine, I imagine, I just haven't gotten Buck Fever in a couple of years, but mebbe the 2023 Season will be the one to hit the woods on a Bambi Slaying Meat Hunt, as my Venison supply has dwindled down to an unacceptable level.......The question is, do I haul my AK thru the Brush, Briars N shit, or take the Commie Brush Gun, the ever popular SKS. Right now in mid May, I'm tending toward the lighter and just as effective SKS, but I know the Brush, Bogs and Briars won't harm or hinder either weapon, so it'll be a coin toss, or more likely I'll use both on alternate days until the freezer is full of Deliciousness once again
@@dwightcurrie8316 you selling any game meat? I'm getting tired of store bought filler.
Also I'd say use the AK, do a little larping.
I love this kind of content, informational and entertaining simultaneously.
I'd like to see a comparison between 5.56 and 7.62 (x51) if possible.
Those were pretty much all the favorite weapons I enjoyed procuring and using in all three mission phases of the game Conflict- Desert Storm.
Good times.
I still want to see the Thompson AK You promised Brandon if you hit 200,000 and you did
Wtf would that look like
These shots on ballistic gel reminds me of the video Angry Cops did when he talked about the training that army medics go through.
They walk in a room with a sedated pig on a table. The instructor says; "Okay, let's fix this pig." Then proceeds to stab it in the chest.
Looking at those wound channels in that gel, I'm reminded of how happy I am going through my days not getting shot...
14:58 thus Brandon relised that was the best $20 he blew in a second
Would be neat to get a 5.45 and 5.56 comparison
5.56 crushes 5.45
@@wisemankugelmemicus1701 Depends on barrel length
@@zeeshanparvez5235no it doesn’t, 556 crushes it no matter what
Even though it doesn't 😂
Brandon, you should get a high-speed camera for cool shots of impacts when doing range vids and .50 vids test-fires you could see the action better if you film at 25,000 frames a second.
As long as someone on Patreon is willing to fork over some 100 grand for one such camera...
it really depends on the situation. as for most combat situations I would pick 5.45 as it is lighter and you can carry more. If I was on the security team at Jurassic world I would pick the 7.62 for more stopping power.
I'd be picking no less than 338 Lapua or 50 BMG for a dino, haha!
Stopping power is still a made up myth-term
458 socom for dino
@@ViktoriousDead 😂
@@ViktoriousDead well than I want ft/lb power
I enjoyed watching & listening to your bit of perspective on both calibers, I've searched through some other videos where it seemed like the videos were only a one sided theory about one or the other rather than comparing them.
I don't understand racking the slide BEFORE detaching the mag after shooting. It makes no sense in case there were 2 rounds, for example, left. Still one in the chamber. The slide is to be racked after removing the mag, at least this is how I was taught at the range class.
I found this quite informative. I am not really into AKs but I always enjoy Brandon's takes on the weapons, gear, politics etc.
Yes part 2. Although I've heard the clear gel is "harder" then the organic. Still we all love ballistic gel tests. Could you do 5.45 vrs, 5.56? The old cold war show down lol.
Clear gel isn't very consistent at all, especially as you start upping velocity
I’d like to see some 5.45 against body armor, glass, walls, and vehicles.
I imagine it would have very similar results that you'd get from 5.56
...and pork steak pectoral with "lungs tissue" made out of lemons all wrapped with 4 layers of shirt.
По идее 5.45 пробивает лучше, но я бы всё равно взглянул. Переведи сам, мне лень :D
15:58 the butterfly's flying behind him while he is talking about how much he likes the 5.45 is just beautiful
See what happens when you hang out with Scott! Your table shooting skills go off the charts! 👍
Do a test with Hornady SST and soft point rounds on ballistic gel, instead of cheaper fmj 7.62x39 offerings... big difference. Perfect for hogs or even deer under 250yds.
Good hunting round but what about shtf/ home defense etc etc
SST or soft point rounds would be perfect for shtf,home protection,and even zombies.
Wolf 125gr SP 7.62x39 slaps hard 👌
I've dropped plenty of hogs with wolf 124 grain hp ammo. Was much cheaper, who knows now. 7.62x39 was my favorite caliber out to 300 yds for hogs. One reason being it was super cheap, and I have an abundance of hogs. I have counted herds up to 100 on my property.
Shot a coyote good kill zone shot he folded then got up and ran couldnt believe he got up after being hit with the sst rounds a year later shot another coyote with a soft round nose round made by ppu dropped him stone cold
Great video. I love the no drama approach, just showing what they do.
you can always dump a little dye into the cavity of the gel for better video quality.
5,45mm if I am to carry it in combat, it's 50% lighter. means much more ammo, especially if I am carrying loose ammo on me in addition to whatever combat load I am packing.
Absolutely 100%
My daily choice is 7.62 but Absolutely 5.45 for needing to carry a lot and the ammo is deadly af
Thank you for the cal+barrel comparison; really interesting how different guns (barrels) affect same cal impact
I would love to see you make a video about the Zastava M90, maybe make it full auto?😏
Me! Too!
i was offered an ak-74 with 4 spam cans (7N6)for a ridiculously low price in the late '90s. but turned it down because i didnt want to stock both rounds. man i should have got that just for fun.
5.45 is the better bullet when there is no armor. The flesh damage is just insane. However, when there is some armor or you are fighting in a place where you need the extra penetration and hitting power - go 7.62.
I heard about 5.45 and 7.62x39 have same penetration power from Combat Approve channel on Ep23 A bullet is not a fool or six records of Russian gunsmith.
5.45 hardend steel core does good at going thru armor... and it goes faster... faster plus smaller diameter = rips thru fibers
@@hondaservicecenter Yep. 7n6 is armor penetrators as well.
Milspec 5.45 pierces through trees like paper, but less performance against brick walls.
5.45 броню лучше пробивает. Но у 7.62 останавливаются сила выше
Shot some AKs for the first time today. Both 7.62 and 5.45. The 5.45 PSA AK was such a smooth and easy to be accurate rifle. Shot a 7.62 with a dong. Both were fantastic and going to be added to my wishlist
was the 762 a PSA also?
which was better though
Brandon: "Which caliber is better?"
Me who doesn't know shit about guns: "50BMG"
I mean...
Technically correct is the best kind of correct
that smoke from the target out of that long barrel 5.45 was crazy! Super cool video! Awsome!