@@deuceandguns You are welcome - i like your review. Whenever i look into the naming and classification i am always confused for a while and must look up details in books about the exact dimensions. Your reload experience seems to be hands on. Please feel free to do more of these. There was a review of .22 on a different channel but that was not very organized and thorough - it was easy to tag yours:)
762x54r is a great round. Light ball ammo is 148 grain, heavy ball is 180 to 203 grain (depending on country). And the gp11 ammo is a .305 bullet NOT .307. Grin weight is ONLY 174 grain for Swiss gp11.
Yet according to Polish government, Russians are to be blamed for WWII, and monuments to Red Army soldiers that sacrificed their lives are to be removed.
FYI: 7.5mm is considerably smaller than .307/.308. The reason the cartridge has a 7.5mm designation is because the original 19th century bullets for 7.5x55 swiss, actually were 7.5mm and wrapped with a paper patch. The paper patch was later removed and the diameter of the bullet was increased.
It was in 300 h&h. After that headspace was on the shoulder and the belt was purely cosmetic. 300 h&h was the parent case to the belted magnums kinda like 308 is a distant ancestor of 6.5 creedmoor.
It is used in the U.S. military. It’s used as a sniper round. Filling the gap between 7.62X51 NATO and .338 Lapua. Great round for elk, moose and kodiak. One shot one kill. Semper fi!
@Hell_Ghost Do you still use the 8mm Mauser? It’s a good round for large game (black bear, blacktail deer, bighorn sheep), the heavier projectiles like the 196gr. are very good for those.
IRONHEAD since ages no longer in use by the Bundeswehr. maybe it was used at the beginning with the old Wehrmacht MG42. but they was quit fast modified into 7.62x51 Nato Standard. For hunting porpose
.30-06 Springfield originated in 1903 with the '03 Springfield (US National Armory) rifle. The .30-03 (or .30-45) used a 45 grain powder charge and 220 gr projectile and was basically old news from the beginning. The 1906 update gave us the warhorse we know today with 150-180 gr Spitzers.
@@hanko9237 US is begging Taliban for peace and they attacked their country and leaving after 17 years with 70% area under their control...which ironically is greater than which Taliban have under control before war. Dude you attack foreign country and then fall back leaving it in hands of original owners is SHAMEFUL DEFEAT like which happened in Iraq,korea,Vitenamese and lybia
The 30-06 is an excellent cartridge, I don't have a rifle for that caliber but I have rifles with cartridges based on the 30-06, a Savage 110 E target rifle in the 25-06 Rem and a Ruger M77 in the 280 Rem. I also have a Springfield M1A with a synthetic stock and a Ruger M77 MKII target rifle in the .308 Winchester. It's worth noting that you can shoot .308 cartridges in the M1A but not the 7.62x51 in a bolt action, I also load/reload my own ammo and I've always kept the brass cases for both rifles separate. I also have a Ruger M77 in the .300 Win magnum that I use for hunting.
Very informative. I thought i just knew about the 7.62x51 and 7.62x39, love learning about different projectiles almost as much as the various firearms. Thanks once again
You missed 30:03 USA, 30:40 Krag USA, 30 Mauser, 30 Luger, 30:30 Winchester, 300 Savage. Anyone know any others? I'm not actually complaining. I really enjoyed this video. You're very down to Earth and easy to understand while also handing out relevant information. Thank you and good day.
The belt on the 300 win mag is not for case strength. It operates at the same pressures as most modern cartridges. The belt is a leftover feature from the H&H cartridges which needed it for headspaceing. 300wm, 7mm RM, ect. headspace off the shoulder, and the belt is just there to make it "look''' more like a magnum cartridge.
.312 bullet diameters was because of the British influence in Europe. the Smele was .303 but the bullet was typically .311 - .312 in diameter. The Ruskies were influenced a great deal by the Brits.
could've added that the 54R in modern use is fed to machineguns like PKM and such, also used in small variety of other russian/soviet weapons. That said, I learned a few more obsucre 7.62 options that I never knew of.
Old video but we in Finland used 7.62x53R which is basically the same as 7.62x54R but our own make for our model of the mosin nagant style rifle we used in the wars.
Not sure if you are active in the comments but two years back I went on a fishing trip in central Ontario, we had to fly in on seaplanes that’s how secluded we were. No roads, except maybe a logging trail here and there. Found a very old trappers camp on an island, several shells for the mosin nagant round and the buttstock of one. Did research when I got home and it turns out they are still somewhat widely used in areas near the Arctic due to their reliability. The actions and the cartridges never freeze
.300 Win Mag has a belt that was originally put there purely for head spacing in basically straight walled, high powered cartridges. The 300 WM head spaces on the shoulder, but the belt was left on the case rather than reinventing the wheel. (a.k.a. cost savings)
Small point. The belt on belted cases was intended to be used for headspaceing, just like the rim of rimmed cartridges, but to also eliminate the issue of rim lock encountered with rimmed cartridges. It wasn't intended to provide additional support for higher pressures. Almost all belted magnums used the 375 H&H as the parent case, and that was the reason for the belt. Many moons later, we know that headspaceing off the shoulder of the case is more accurate, but the 375 came along when rimmed cartridges were what was being used.
In the Middle East most common use of 7.62x54 is for PKM machine gun and Dragunov sniper rifle. 7.62x51 for FAL rifle. 7.62x39 for AK and RPK rifles. 7.62x25 for Tokarev pistol.
7.62×40. You can convert the primers over to the American Standard primers with a copper bushing made out of a piece of copper tube and you will have easily reloadable, non-corrosive brass.
7.62 x 45 was AWESOME caliber. I had one of those and the 7.62x 39 conversion. I always though it was a good calibre and would have been a good intermediary between 7.62x 51. A little less hit power a lot less recoil
Cool to see the 7.62x45 round get some love here. Definitely not the easiest round to obtain but a very interesting weapon system in vz52. One of my favorite rifles in my collection.
.220 Swift is also valuable for reforming into 6.5x50mmSR Japanese. Expand the neck with a 6mm neck expander then expand with 6.5mm expander. Then full length size with 8mm lebel to start setting the shoulder, then full length size with 6.5 Carcano and then finish off with full length sizing with your 6.5 Japanese die. Trim to length, you can then ream the neck if you wish as well as annealing.
Great talk on the 7.62 ammo...i just found a 200 round blister pack of 7.62x63 mil unopened. look brand new made in 1971. works great in my 1903 Springfield ser#105,384
I used to see videos like this and thought they were kind of silly. Namely because to a new shooter hearing 7.62x and followed by various numbers was too much for them or the idea that people weren't that dumb. Then I started selling guns and ammo and was immediately proven wrong by both new shooters and "experienced" ones. So I'm far more thankful for content like this and often use such videos as good sources for people who want to learn more about the nomenclature of 7.62's. It never fails that I get a phone call or visit asking if I got any 7.62's. And I have to follow up with "Which one?". Usually they're after x39's when they ask that but still needs to be asked. Excellent video and explanation overall. Not sure I could have done a better job.
Thanks. Also, thank you for being a knowledgeable person behind the gun store counter. I'll bet your patience has been tested daily during the past 9 months.
"more of a push" I dont know if you're shooting special magic ammo, or you have a special Mosin, but mine kicks hard as hell no matter if I'm standing or laying down.
just saying, Tokarev 7.62 x 25 is a Soviet's adoption of C96 Mauser, the 30 caliber Mauser, the very broom-handle Mauser young W. Churchill's favorite handgun
7.62x54R is my ammo of choice ... or actually vice versa.. it has chosen me :-D Once i was going to the range with friendos and got hit by brass from one of those in my head... now i have next to my forehead a C shaped scar ... and a PSL under my bed :-)
glad i bought the 1970 waterproof pack of 7.63x63NA 200 rounds. opened em up...looked like they was made yesterday...fired great in my 1903 Springfield #105384, for 1 hundred bucks!
When I was in Basic Training, the drill sergeant was explaining the M240B. He explained that it fired 7.62 ammo. Anyone who knows anything knows he was referring the 7.62x51 NATO. I also did, but still asked him which 7.62, x39, x51, x54, x56 or x63. While I didn't do any pushups over it (he knew I was right to point that out), he did tell me, in very clear terms, to be quiet. That particular DS was one of the ones who went out of their way to teach us stuff, so he did explain the difference later on.
The Vz 52 (not the CZ 52; the official designation is Vz 52) is a roller *locked* system akin to a WW2 MG42 or a Cold War MG3. Roller locked and roller delayed are distinctly different systems: roller locking involves truly locking up the slide during firing, whereas roller delayed systems never lock the barrel. The major successful pistol with a roller delayed system like HK's submachineguns is the HK P9S. The Calico M960 also uses it, but I think of that as more of a carbine or SMG than a pistol.
@@jokelius1 ya I can't spell bro I'm a coal miner I can mine like a mother fu@k$r and fix pretty much everything on our longwall and joy CMs just can't spell I read good thou
I agree: AR 10 is super accurate with a huge punch. Bought a new one and out of the box, I was so surprised. My 87 year old dad is old school and he laughed when he saw the gun. He asked, WTH u want that toy for? We were at my range and I had a pie plate at 150 yards. I pulled the gun up to my shoulder and shot 10 quick shots offhand. Run down and retrieved the plate. Brought it back and all 10 had hit the plate. Dad got real quiet! Lol
Another great .308 Win. or 7.62 NATO rifle is the HK91A4. Unfortunately they were banned from entry into the U.S. in 1989 under an Executive order by President Bush. A relative of mine serving in Germany at the time, sent one home prior to the ban. Clones are available today through other firearm manufacturers. This one is just as accurate as my AR-10 but kicks like hell because of the design.
Just a small addendum. The 7.62x25 is rated at 1400 fps in American made ammo - 1500 fps in Serbian made ammo - and 1600 fps in the Czech military designated ammo used in the CZ 52. And you left out the 7.5x54 French. 😊
Correct the 1895 Nagant revolver predates the soviet union by 37 years and predates WWI by 31 years. At the time Tzar Nicholas II was still in power. Adopted by the White Russian Army circa 1895.
I fired over 2000 rounds and it has not been damaged in any way it's a great gun to kill snakes or to shoot around for fun the ammo for it is cheap you can get about 500 rounds for 10 bucks it's a fun little 22 it is worth the price you should consider getting one if you don't already have it
TY! gud info. I did not know x63/x67. my Baby for past 40yrs! Rem 7.2.1. Many, many gud memories. My wife's 1st Honey SKS. she let's me shoot it, occasionally, when I've been a very gud boy!
With all those cartridges you should have mentioned the 303 British. It's just as good as the 308 and the rifles are among the fastest bolt action it the world. They were the fastest in the world during WWI !
When I was trained in South Korean reserve forces, I got the opportunity to handle M1 carbine, which was used in the Korean Civil War, since 1950. it was too old to shoot safety.
7.62 x 54R also fits an Tokarev SVT-40, a Soviet semi-auto rifle developed during WW2 that shoots sweet and clean; it has a muzzle brake that keeps the recoil to a minimum. It has a ten-round removable magazine and can be strip loaded. Unfortunately, it has a nasty tendency to improperly eject the cartridge, causing a jam that is easy to clear, but most inconvenient in combat-thus limiting its service during the war. The SKS owes a lot to the older design of the SVT-40-they look very similar. On a side note, firing the 7.62 x 54R from an M44 Mosin-Nagant carbine is quite entertaining, as the muzzle flash flame is longer than the barrel, even visible in broad daylight. Kicks like a mule, though.
The 7.62x25 ammo was as low as 1300 fps. but surplus ammo was as hot as 1800 fps. With over 500 ft. Lbs. of energy. And most commonly came in 85, and 86 grain bullet weight but since you can use 9mm bullets resized, and trimmed you can load 100gr. hollow points, and even 110gr. fmj. Winchester makes new ammo that is 85gr. and 1645 fps. and 510 ft.lbs. Also the PPSH-41 that was used by the Russian army in WWII fired the 7.62x25.
Glad you said that either way is correct in reference to pronouncing Garand. Too many people make such a big deal over that and it gets old really quick🤣
PPSh-41 (pepesha) and PPS-43 (pepees) are those SMG that use 7,62x25. PPS should be available in US market, there were some Polish made PPSes that made to USA.
The 7.63x25 was a mauser round and the 7.62x25 tokarov came later.. Just stating a fact incase anyone doesn't know you can't use the 7.63x25 tokarov ammunition in let's say mauser broom handle c96 as the pressures are much higher in the tokarov rounds
The Belt on the 300 win mag is a holder over from its parents the 300 and 375 H&H magnums. These latter cartridges did not have shoulders so needed the belt to seat them at the proper depth. More powerful cartridges with shoulders do not have belts e.g. 338 lapua and 50 BMG.
That 7.62x54 was also used in the SVT 40 semi auto, I wish I would have bought one of them instead of my SKS because they are very hard to find now and very pricy if you do find them. When I was first looking at them they were going for about 350.00 CAD and the SKS was going for 200.00 to 250.00 CAD and I foolishly bought the SKS, you can still get SKS's relatively cheap now around 300.00 to 350.00 CAD.
7,62*53r is a finnish version of 7,62*54r, case length is shortened and the bullet diameter is 1/1000 inch smaller. Used in finnish mosin rifles, for example M39 and M28-30. Also i think Finnish used the round in maxim m33-32 machine guns. If you are handed a 7,62*53r or a 7,62*54r you wont tell the difference from the other but the pressure differs on them. I has shot 54r through my 53r with no problems, just a bigger muzzle flash.
I am super happy with all the information in this video, learned a lot! But I was surprised you didn’t mention the FN FAL when you got to the 7.62x51!!! What an iconic rifle to skip with that round!! Still, awesome video, and I really learned a lot! 👍🏻
Here are the start points
0:20 7.62x25
1:18 7.62x38R
3:24 7.62x35 (300BLK)
4:28 7.62x39
5:22 7.62x45
8:10 7.62x51
9:38 7.62x54R
11:40 7.62x63 (30-06)
12:50 7.62x67 (WinMag)
13:50 7.5x55
Thanks! Pinned to the top.
300 winmag was first rifle i ever shot..so fun
@@deuceandguns You are welcome - i like your review. Whenever i look into the naming and classification i am always confused for a while and must look up details in books about the exact dimensions. Your reload experience seems to be hands on. Please feel free to do more of these. There was a review of .22 on a different channel but that was not very organized and thorough - it was easy to tag yours:)
Your wild card should have been the 7.62x51R, better known as. 30-30 Winchester.
762x54r is a great round. Light ball ammo is 148 grain, heavy ball is 180 to 203 grain (depending on country). And the gp11 ammo is a .305 bullet NOT .307. Grin weight is ONLY 174 grain for Swiss gp11.
Mosin and Mauser shels, the nightmare for metal detectors in Poland :)
And Here in West Germany i Would Love to find Mosin Shell Casings or Any Russian Stuff
@@lillxon806 You must try at east from Berlin, can drown in it. :)
@@mikefurman3060 I Know but i Live in Pretty much the Central of Germany And Here we're only the Americans
@@lillxon806 Only Us staff in poland is from "Lend Lase Act" for USSR army. Sorry for my language. Peace.
Yet according to Polish government, Russians are to be blamed for WWII, and monuments to Red Army soldiers that sacrificed their lives are to be removed.
FYI: 7.5mm is considerably smaller than .307/.308. The reason the cartridge has a 7.5mm designation is because the original 19th century bullets for 7.5x55 swiss, actually were 7.5mm and wrapped with a paper patch. The paper patch was later removed and the diameter of the bullet was increased.
My dad used to confuse the 7.62 NATO with the 30-06. He's pretty old (not that old), and This helped him see and understand the difference.
Good to hear. My dad (who is pretty old) had the same confusion.
the belt on rounds like 300 win-mag isn't to increase case strength or make a better gas seal, its for headspacing
It was in 300 h&h. After that headspace was on the shoulder and the belt was purely cosmetic. 300 h&h was the parent case to the belted magnums kinda like 308 is a distant ancestor of 6.5 creedmoor.
It is used in the U.S. military. It’s used as a sniper round. Filling the gap between 7.62X51 NATO and .338 Lapua.
Great round for elk, moose and kodiak. One shot one kill. Semper fi!
IRONHEAD Not only in the US. Also in the German Army we use .300 Win Mag as Sniper Round. the .338 is only used by the SOF
@Hell_Ghost Do you still use the 8mm Mauser? It’s a good round for large game (black bear, blacktail deer, bighorn sheep), the heavier projectiles like the 196gr. are very good for those.
IRONHEAD since ages no longer in use by the Bundeswehr. maybe it was used at the beginning with the old Wehrmacht MG42. but they was quit fast modified into 7.62x51 Nato Standard.
For hunting porpose
.30-06 Springfield originated in 1903 with the '03 Springfield (US National Armory) rifle. The .30-03 (or .30-45) used a 45 grain powder charge and 220 gr projectile and was basically old news from the beginning. The 1906 update gave us the warhorse we know today with 150-180 gr Spitzers.
It is a Military round now. The U.S. Army changed the M24 to the 300 win Mag now. For longer range.
Good Video. Very interesting
Been so for 2 decades +
I read somewhere that Chris Kyle preferred using the .300 Win Mag to other calibers
Yet still faced a shameful defeat in Afghanistan
@@tullo5564 Well he served 4 tours in Iraq. So not sure how he lost in Afghanistan, but if you say so.
@@hanko9237 US is begging Taliban for peace and they attacked their country and leaving after 17 years with 70% area under their control...which ironically is greater than which Taliban have under control before war.
Dude you attack foreign country and then fall back leaving it in hands of original owners is SHAMEFUL DEFEAT like which happened in Iraq,korea,Vitenamese and lybia
.300 Win. mag has been adopted by the USMC for snipers.
Wow , quite a bit of 7.62 , Solid Info... thanxs!!!!
7.62x72mm = 300 H&H
7.62x47mm = 300 Savage
7.62x53m = 300 WSM
The 30-06 is an excellent cartridge, I don't have a rifle for that caliber but I have rifles with cartridges based on the 30-06, a Savage 110 E target rifle in the 25-06 Rem and a Ruger M77 in the 280 Rem. I also have a Springfield M1A with a synthetic stock and a Ruger M77 MKII target rifle in the .308 Winchester. It's worth noting that you can shoot .308 cartridges in the M1A but not the 7.62x51 in a bolt action, I also load/reload my own ammo and I've always kept the brass cases for both rifles separate. I also have a Ruger M77 in the .300 Win magnum that I use for hunting.
Very informative. I thought i just knew about the 7.62x51 and 7.62x39, love learning about different projectiles almost as much as the various firearms. Thanks once again
You missed 30:03 USA, 30:40 Krag USA, 30 Mauser, 30 Luger, 30:30 Winchester, 300 Savage. Anyone know any others? I'm not actually complaining. I really enjoyed this video. You're very down to Earth and easy to understand while also handing out relevant information. Thank you and good day.
1:23 # dream gun. suppressible revolver 😎
A beginners guide to 7.62 .. Very informative.
The belt on the 300 win mag is not for case strength. It operates at the same pressures as most modern cartridges. The belt is a leftover feature from the H&H cartridges which needed it for headspaceing. 300wm, 7mm RM, ect. headspace off the shoulder, and the belt is just there to make it "look''' more like a magnum cartridge.
I love that you threw in the 7.5 Swiss, I have to explain it to my friends all the time
The belt on the 300 win mag is not for added strength, it was for head spacing due to its parent cartridge the 300 h&h Magnum.
.312 bullet diameters was because of the British influence in Europe. the Smele was .303 but the bullet was typically .311 - .312 in diameter. The Ruskies were influenced a great deal by the Brits.
Missed the 7.62x33 (aka .30 Carbine). I suppose there was also the 7.35x51 Carcano, the 7.7x56R (.303 British) and the 7.7x58 Arisaka.
could've added that the 54R in modern use is fed to machineguns like PKM and such, also used in small variety of other russian/soviet weapons. That said, I learned a few more obsucre 7.62 options that I never knew of.
it is also used in several sniper rifles. the cart is very powerful.
I like the 54R. Really great trajectory and accurate.
The best explanation I’ve ever heard. Thanks
The belt on the 300WM is not for strength but for head spacing. as is for all the belted mags.
Old video but we in Finland used 7.62x53R which is basically the same as 7.62x54R but our own make for our model of the mosin nagant style rifle we used in the wars.
You missed the late great .300 Holland and Holland which reigned supreme in Africa as a good all rounder for medium game. Tks for a great video.
Not sure if you are active in the comments but two years back I went on a fishing trip in central Ontario, we had to fly in on seaplanes that’s how secluded we were. No roads, except maybe a logging trail here and there. Found a very old trappers camp on an island, several shells for the mosin nagant round and the buttstock of one. Did research when I got home and it turns out they are still somewhat widely used in areas near the Arctic due to their reliability. The actions and the cartridges never freeze
I love the Nagants. I have 3 antique rifles and an 1895 revolver (the one that can be suppressed). They have so much history.
.300 Win Mag has a belt that was originally put there purely for head spacing in basically straight walled, high powered cartridges. The 300 WM head spaces on the shoulder, but the belt was left on the case rather than reinventing the wheel. (a.k.a. cost savings)
I love this subject.... So many different rounds for pretty much the same bullet
Small point. The belt on belted cases was intended to be used for headspaceing, just like the rim of rimmed cartridges, but to also eliminate the issue of rim lock encountered with rimmed cartridges. It wasn't intended to provide additional support for higher pressures. Almost all belted magnums used the 375 H&H as the parent case, and that was the reason for the belt.
Many moons later, we know that headspaceing off the shoulder of the case is more accurate, but the 375 came along when rimmed cartridges were what was being used.
Just exactly the info I was looking for, thanks for clearing up the confusion!
In the Middle East most common use of 7.62x54 is for PKM machine gun and Dragunov sniper rifle.
7.62x51 for FAL rifle.
7.62x39 for AK and RPK rifles.
7.62x25 for Tokarev pistol.
2 notable absences are the 30 Carbine (7.62x33mm) and the 30-30 (7,62x51mmR).
7.62×40. You can convert the primers over to the American Standard primers with a copper bushing made out of a piece of copper tube and you will have easily reloadable, non-corrosive brass.
I would like to see all these rounds in a ballistics gel or vs body armor.
7.62 x 45 was AWESOME caliber. I had one of those and the 7.62x 39 conversion. I always though it was a good calibre and would have been a good intermediary between 7.62x 51. A little less hit power a lot less recoil
Cool to see the 7.62x45 round get some love here. Definitely not the easiest round to obtain but a very interesting weapon system in vz52. One of my favorite rifles in my collection.
The 300 AAC Blackout round is from 110 grain to 260 grain.
.220 Swift is also valuable for reforming into 6.5x50mmSR Japanese.
Expand the neck with a 6mm neck expander then expand with 6.5mm expander.
Then full length size with 8mm lebel to start setting the shoulder, then full length size with 6.5 Carcano and then finish off with full length sizing with your 6.5 Japanese die.
Trim to length, you can then ream the neck if you wish as well as annealing.
Should have added the .30 carbine after all it's in the 7.62 family and was used by US military.
.300STW?
Yep, 7.62x33
7,62x45 is also used in a lot of soviet machine guns, and was originally in SA vz. 58, before soviets decided it has to be in 7,62x39.
Great info, that clears up a lot. Thanks for your time.
Great talk on the 7.62 ammo...i just found a 200 round blister pack of 7.62x63 mil unopened. look brand new made in 1971. works great in my 1903 Springfield ser#105,384
I saw that Vz.52 on the wall at the very beginning of the vid and you instantly earned a subscriber. Excellent collection.
7.62x25 aka the boomer five-seven for its ability to penetrate soft body armor.
Boomer Five-seven! What a great description!
I used to see videos like this and thought they were kind of silly. Namely because to a new shooter hearing 7.62x and followed by various numbers was too much for them or the idea that people weren't that dumb. Then I started selling guns and ammo and was immediately proven wrong by both new shooters and "experienced" ones. So I'm far more thankful for content like this and often use such videos as good sources for people who want to learn more about the nomenclature of 7.62's.
It never fails that I get a phone call or visit asking if I got any 7.62's. And I have to follow up with "Which one?". Usually they're after x39's when they ask that but still needs to be asked. Excellent video and explanation overall. Not sure I could have done a better job.
Thanks. Also, thank you for being a knowledgeable person behind the gun store counter. I'll bet your patience has been tested daily during the past 9 months.
@@deuceandguns Plenty, but I am fortunate to be blessed with patience beyond most people's capabilities.
"more of a push"
I dont know if you're shooting special magic ammo, or you have a special Mosin, but mine kicks hard as hell no matter if I'm standing or laying down.
I hear if you rub some Vagisil on your shoulder it can help with that problem you have.
bulk up your rifle or yourself to minimize the effect
I added a nice butt pad its not bad at all. That metal plate is no fun.
All my hunting friends said it felt like a heavy .308 (the M44 carbine). Buy a shoulder pad.
Lol, My Mosin kicks like a mule.
just saying, Tokarev 7.62 x 25 is a Soviet's adoption of C96 Mauser, the 30 caliber Mauser, the very broom-handle Mauser young W. Churchill's favorite handgun
7.62x54R is my ammo of choice ... or actually vice versa.. it has chosen me :-D Once i was going to the range with friendos and got hit by brass from one of those in my head... now i have next to my forehead a C shaped scar ... and a PSL under my bed :-)
The 7.62x67 is a military cartridge and used in the enhanced sniper system M2010
The short lived 30-40 Krag/ 30 Army. Great video.
glad i bought the 1970 waterproof pack of 7.63x63NA 200 rounds. opened em up...looked like they was made yesterday...fired great in my 1903 Springfield #105384, for 1 hundred bucks!
my M&P10 with 5R rifling was the most accurate .308 ive ever owned or shot! wish i could post you the pick of my 100 yard target!
Good to know. I always thought the R in 54R was for Russian until now.
Yeah they are called soviet rounds but they won't have an s in it since it was common knowledge for Russians
When I was in Basic Training, the drill sergeant was explaining the M240B. He explained that it fired 7.62 ammo. Anyone who knows anything knows he was referring the 7.62x51 NATO. I also did, but still asked him which 7.62, x39, x51, x54, x56 or x63. While I didn't do any pushups over it (he knew I was right to point that out), he did tell me, in very clear terms, to be quiet. That particular DS was one of the ones who went out of their way to teach us stuff, so he did explain the difference later on.
yes the groove is 311 ish and the land is 308 but you need to add 3 or4 thousanths to the bullet to fill the groove
7.62 NATO round , FNC -1A1 ,FNC-2 , and the GPMG ,in CF usage . Thank you. This through the 1960s up until the late 1980s .
The CZ52, probably the only successful pistol with a roller delayed blowback system akin to the H&K guns.
The Vz 52 (not the CZ 52; the official designation is Vz 52) is a roller *locked* system akin to a WW2 MG42 or a Cold War MG3. Roller locked and roller delayed are distinctly different systems: roller locking involves truly locking up the slide during firing, whereas roller delayed systems never lock the barrel.
The major successful pistol with a roller delayed system like HK's submachineguns is the HK P9S. The Calico M960 also uses it, but I think of that as more of a carbine or SMG than a pistol.
Our us military uses 300 win mag as a sniper round in Iraq and Afghanistan
Also use the 338 among others.
Yep the 338 lupa is bad ass
@@Clawson_customs lapua*
@@jokelius1 ya I can't spell bro I'm a coal miner I can mine like a mother fu@k$r and fix pretty much everything on our longwall and joy CMs just can't spell I read good thou
@@Clawson_customs Thanks for your service. Keeping my forge fed.
6:00 that’s some nice DayZ gun
Nice presentation. Thank you.
Great video. Very informative. And for those that missed it he did say there were others in the 7.62 family but that would be for another time.
Excellent video. So I can load my SKS bullets in my 303 Brit cases. Thanks.
7.62x25 is my favorite pistol cartridge second to the 40 s&w. If you get a ppsh 43c it really shows off the capability of the cartridge
I agree: AR 10 is super accurate with a huge punch. Bought a new one and out of the box, I was so surprised.
My 87 year old dad is old school and he laughed when he saw the gun. He asked, WTH u want that toy for? We were at my range and I had a pie plate at 150 yards. I pulled the gun up to my shoulder and shot 10 quick shots offhand. Run down and retrieved the plate. Brought it back and all 10 had hit the plate. Dad got real quiet! Lol
Another great .308 Win. or 7.62 NATO rifle is the HK91A4. Unfortunately they were banned from entry into the U.S. in 1989 under an Executive order by President Bush. A relative of mine serving in Germany at the time, sent one home prior to the ban. Clones are available today through other firearm manufacturers. This one is just as accurate as my AR-10 but kicks like hell because of the design.
Just a small addendum. The 7.62x25 is rated at 1400 fps in American made ammo - 1500 fps in Serbian made ammo - and 1600 fps in the Czech military designated ammo used in the CZ 52. And you left out the 7.5x54 French. 😊
Thanks for the info. I am just that much closer to a better understanding of the different calibers.
Correct the 1895 Nagant revolver predates the soviet union by 37 years and predates WWI by 31 years. At the time Tzar Nicholas II was still in power. Adopted by the White Russian Army circa 1895.
I fired over 2000 rounds and it has not been damaged in any way it's a great gun to kill snakes or to shoot around for fun the ammo for it is cheap you can get about 500 rounds for 10 bucks it's a fun little 22 it is worth the price you should consider getting one if you don't already have it
I have one of those too. Yeah I mean each one of those. Cool video. Thanks for taking the time to make it.
The 7,62x25 was used in the PPSh 41 and the PPS 43.
Fantastic knowledge.... u sure know what you are talking about!!!
Great collection ....
Thank you for sharing
I'm glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching.
I really enjoyed the 7.62 video! Great information very fun to watch thanks alot!
Your videos are amazing love the history! 30.06 lover here and I’ll be adding your video to my favs
Talk to Karl at InRange I think he reloads for his CZ that he used in a match last year
His is the vz52/57 chambred in 7,62x39mm
THANK YOU for making sure you've got great audio.
wow a few of these like the 38r the 45 and 67 i had no idea even existed!! Awesome video bro
TY! gud info. I did not know x63/x67. my Baby for past 40yrs! Rem 7.2.1. Many, many gud memories. My wife's 1st Honey SKS. she let's me shoot it, occasionally, when I've been a very gud boy!
.303 British and the 7.7 Arisaka shoot the same diameter bullet as the x39 and x54R.
thank you, for the straight scoop on 7.62
With all those cartridges you should have mentioned the 303 British. It's just as good as the 308 and the rifles are among the fastest bolt action it the world. They were the fastest in the world during WWI !
Excellent! Everything I thought I wanted to know + more.
When I was trained in South Korean reserve forces, I got the opportunity to handle M1 carbine, which was used in the Korean Civil War, since 1950. it was too old to shoot safety.
7.62 x 54R also fits an Tokarev SVT-40, a Soviet semi-auto rifle developed during WW2 that shoots sweet and clean; it has a muzzle brake that keeps the recoil to a minimum. It has a ten-round removable magazine and can be strip loaded. Unfortunately, it has a nasty tendency to improperly eject the cartridge, causing a jam that is easy to clear, but most inconvenient in combat-thus limiting its service during the war. The SKS owes a lot to the older design of the SVT-40-they look very similar. On a side note, firing the 7.62 x 54R from an M44 Mosin-Nagant carbine is quite entertaining, as the muzzle flash flame is longer than the barrel, even visible in broad daylight. Kicks like a mule, though.
Best bolt sniper who use 7.62*54mmR is Izhmash SV-98.Hits on 1000 meters bullseye easy.
The 7.62x25 ammo was as low as 1300 fps. but surplus ammo was as hot as 1800 fps. With over 500 ft. Lbs. of energy. And most commonly came in 85, and 86 grain bullet weight but since you can use 9mm bullets resized, and trimmed you can load 100gr. hollow points, and even 110gr. fmj. Winchester makes new ammo that is 85gr. and 1645 fps. and 510 ft.lbs. Also the PPSH-41 that was used by the Russian army in WWII fired the 7.62x25.
Good one all the different 7.62 crazy
Glad you said that either way is correct in reference to pronouncing Garand. Too many people make such a big deal over that and it gets old really quick🤣
PPSh-41 (pepesha) and PPS-43 (pepees) are those SMG that use 7,62x25.
PPS should be available in US market, there were some Polish made PPSes that made to USA.
I learned so much. Thank you very much.
You left out the .303 British cartridge for the Lee Enfield.
The 7.63x25 was a mauser round and the 7.62x25 tokarov came later.. Just stating a fact incase anyone doesn't know you can't use the 7.63x25 tokarov ammunition in let's say mauser broom handle c96 as the pressures are much higher in the tokarov rounds
Those 7.62c25's are some nasty little buggers.
7.62x39 for the win. Cheap and effective
On mil. rifles I advise slugging the bbl. to measure I have seen a wide variance in dia.
Very true. My personal Mosin collection has bores ranging from .309 to .315.
The Belt on the 300 win mag is a holder over from its parents the 300 and 375 H&H magnums. These latter cartridges did not have shoulders so needed the belt to seat them at the proper depth. More powerful cartridges with shoulders do not have belts e.g. 338 lapua and 50 BMG.
.300 H&H has an 8 degree shoulder and the .375 has a 15 degree shoulder.
That 7.62x54 was also used in the SVT 40 semi auto, I wish I would have bought one of them instead of my SKS because they are very hard to find now and very pricy if you do find them. When I was first looking at them they were going for about 350.00 CAD and the SKS was going for 200.00 to 250.00 CAD and I foolishly bought the SKS, you can still get SKS's relatively cheap now around 300.00 to 350.00 CAD.
Dont forget the SVT 40 shoots the 762x54r , i picked up 4 svt40s for $250 each a few yrs ago,
I passed on a near perfect $400 SVT-40 about 10 yrs ago. When I went back for it the next day it was gone. One of the few that got away.
@@deuceandguns yes i enjoy my Svt40s, i live on Ontario Canada and we had a few a surplus come thru and now they are 1000 bucks if you can find them
The magnum belt is for headspace not case strengthening.
7,62*53r is a finnish version of 7,62*54r, case length is shortened and the bullet diameter is 1/1000 inch smaller. Used in finnish mosin rifles, for example M39 and M28-30. Also i think Finnish used the round in maxim m33-32 machine guns. If you are handed a 7,62*53r or a 7,62*54r you wont tell the difference from the other but the pressure differs on them. I has shot 54r through my 53r with no problems, just a bigger muzzle flash.
I am super happy with all the information in this video, learned a lot! But I was surprised you didn’t mention the FN FAL when you got to the 7.62x51!!! What an iconic rifle to skip with that round!! Still, awesome video, and I really learned a lot! 👍🏻
Thought the fal fired 7.62×54
@@wayne9585 nope
SVT40 also 762x54r he forgot it