Exotics Lair's Centipede Care is TERRIBLE
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- Опубліковано 15 гру 2021
- I'll be honest, I've been hesitant to react to Exotics Lair for a while, but many people have wanted me to respond to his centipede video, which shows some very poor husbandry, so I finally decided to go for it.
Original video:
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As expected, this video seems to have some mixed reception compared to my usual reaction videos. Of course, I anticipated that would be the case given the fact that my analytics show EL is the channel most viewed by my subscribers.
I want to clarify that this video is not intended to be hateful or vitriolic at all, but since his husbandry is objectively very poor, I felt the need to point it out so that none of his followers are misled. I've seen a couple comments about me sounding smug/rude, but honestly the manner in which I've responded to this video is no different from any other; perhaps it just seems more offensive when the video is from a channel you know and follow. I simply prefer to be blunt with my criticism, and I understand that doesn't appeal to everyone.
Of course, at the end of the day, anyone and everyone is wholly entitled to criticize this video however they like, as I made the decision to post it in a public domain. And the same applies to EL's video for those exact reasons.
I don't understand, I've never considered EL as a go to, never
As he was so ignorant with yourself he pretty much deserved being told what for on here then 👍🏻
@@mypetsandme9473 EL responded?🤔
At the end of the day if their not kept right their become sick ,stressed and die . Are people more concerned of offending somebody or really thinking of the animals in question 🤷♀️
I have no centipede experience but even I thought your comments were spot on!
"...I fully understand that they are not for everyone, and that is OK. Because, not everyone has good taste." This is perfection. :D
Great quote.
I need to use this quote every time someone says they would kill what I keep😂😂
I want to steal it.
I've only had my Scolopendra s. since mid-September, after purchasing him at an expo. He's is housed temporarily in a basic plastic shoebox setup with a bamboo hide, and five inches of damp substrate(he burrows all the time, I love it). I'm moving him into a ten gallon tank next week, and I'm so excited for his upgrade. They're such a beautiful species that demand respect.
I'm honestly very disappointed and ashamed with the "care" of his centipedes, especially since he has a large following, and people might mistake what he does as acceptable husbandry. It's like putting a leopard gecko in a paludarium.
Not going to lie, I did name one of my stromatopelma calceatum "Queen F**kface". Got her from someone who was too scared to deal with her anymore. Everything greatly upsets her, she eats males, she's extremely fast, will climb feeding tongs if allowed near her, and unlike my other highly defensive tarantulas she will charge out of her web. Still love having her, but you're not kidding on how scary they can be compared to some animals. XD
Yeah I've heard some stories about that species haha. Feel like they'd make any Aussie spider seem like a kitten in terms of temperament.
I think he tends to keep them a little dryer since he lives in a tropical rainforest/monsoon climate practically right on the equator. Giant centipedes just crawl into his house from outside sometimes. I'd imagine he'd have a tough time with mycosis on any desert species though.
Mycosis can be an absolute pain with desert species. Especially Australia's Scolopendra morsitans, which are the only pedes I keep bone dry.
I watched EL a lot more often before I actually got inverts myself. I wouldn't consider his channel to be fear mongering but I do think he has more of a focus on entertainment, and that (in my opinion) isn't the best idea for a subject like inverts- things most people don't know a lot about and are probably scared of already. I thought OW tarantulas were 10xs scarier than they really are thanks to EL lol. Turns out, they aren't scary- just demanding of respect.
Same
Yes well said.... Thank you!!!!
I was subbed to EL for a while but it became impossible to ignore that the channel was about content over care, entertainment over education.
Yeah, while I never subscribed, I did watch him for a bit as well.
It’s a very uncomfortable channel to watch after a while.
Oh man, when This EL vid launched I laughed. I was amidst the crowd calling out the pedes needed better enclosures/conditions and would escape. I was beyond disappointed, and I’m a moron about centipedes.
It makes me appreciate this channel even more.
This is my first few times watching your channel and I am very impressed by your work keep up the good work mate. 👏 I am definitely subscribing by the way.(hope exotics lair sees this too )
Really great video buddy I’ll keep an eye out for similar videos to this. Both my S polymorpha and S dehaani were kept in similar enclosures to Exotic Lair’s until I bought them and gave them enormous digging space, floor space, and hides.
Bugs and Biology your video was excellent. Anyone complaining simply don’t know what they’re doing. End of story.
Cheers mate. Appreciate it.
@@BugsandBiology Oh becuse we gunna support a hater
Can you highlight where any of my criticisms were invalid?
To be fair, I think a fair few of EL's subs are there purely for the spectacle of him struggling to handle uncooperative inverts with a single hand, which is fine I suppose, it is sometimes pretty entertaining, but bad husbandry certainly deserves to be pointed out. Although I suspect if you want a relatively drame-free solutions I think PM'ing them advice is probably the better way to go.
He should ask himself a very serious question before moving forward; "Would i keep these if I wasn't turning a profit from them?" based on his videos, the answer should be a resounding NO
He actually scared of them whenever he let's them out he shows signs of distress it's clear he doesnt like them and uses them completely for entertainment purposes
Have you ever tried contacting him. To give advice on the husbandry of pedes?
Ages ago, when the video first came out. No response.
Those centipedes are hudeni(Didn’t know if I spelled his name correctly.) in spirit.
Awww poor things . Your so right on all accounts . He’s good with spiders but I think he should just give up on these guys .
Maybe you should give up on life, don't judge how other people keep arthropods.
@@undeadking420 Ah, picking fights on other comments too? I thought you wanted to be left alone.
@@BugsandBiology I do wanna be left alone, I want nothing to do with your stupid channel anymore. Do not reply to me again.
OK sweetheart 😘
@@BugsandBiology You're going to drive yourself crazy responding to or reading UA-cam comments my guy. People are toxic for fun or just because they're assholes Lol.
The sign of a good invert channel is who the creator is more focused on. Focused on the inverts = good channel
Focused on viewers = bad channel
Also, anyone that has inverts escape probably shouldn't keep them, I've been keeping inverts of all shapes and sizes for over 20 years and never had one escape
That's a wild take cause not everyone is you. Even the most professional of invert keepers will slip up and have an escape. I think it definitely depends on how often it happens, he saidd his pedes escape frequently so with that I don't think he should own pedes.
Gosh he might as well just dump them straight onto glass... it's painfully obvious that the centipedes would need at least four times that amount of substrate
It's not necessarily the amount that's a problem, especially since Scolopendra subspinipes are more of a semi-arboreal species, but that substrate is completely dry and can't hold a burrow either. Plus there's no hides, so the centipede can't really shelter anywhere at all.
@@BugsandBiology Yes, but the impossibility of burrowing comes (at least partially) from the fact that the substrate is nowhere near deep enough, which means you need a lot more... is it not true?
Yeah that's true, especially for centipedes that size. But personally I've found hides to be more important than burrowing. Most of my pedes don't bother burrowing if they have shelter.
@@BugsandBiology not a centipede keeper, but would it be fair to say that is largely true if the humidity is right? Whereas a deeper substrate, as opposed to a hide, might allow the centipede to find the right level of humidity if something was going wrong?
@@chazsaw Yeah I'd say so. A rainforest species would be more prone to burrowing if it had insufficient moisture.
I must say I watch Exotics Lair from time to time, but more for entertainment & not for advice on keeping Invertebrates. I’m shocked by how many people follow him to be honest. I really enjoy your videos, thank you & would come to you for advice 😊
i love your channel and how much you care about te animals themselves. will always be a faithful supporter! do you have any merch? id loe to buy
Can i ask why people use such small living spaces, i made an encloser? about 2000 liters for 2 lizards and even i think that is to small.
This is an old comment on an old video but invertebrates don’t NEED a lot of space, however centipedes will use all the space you give them so I feel like giving them absolutely nothing is a bit sad
I watched that video of his because ive been looking into (hopefully) getting a Vietnamese giant centipede within a few months. Even though id consider myself a novice invertebrate keeper, when i first watch the video even i was noticing some things looked a little off. He probably has the best of intentions but not the right way of going about it. That was his only video ive seen though, and this is the first ive seen from you. Definidtely subscribed :D
I'll be 100% honest, your channel is the only one I'm willing to watch for centipede content. Can you do a top 5 best centipedes to own?
I could, but the problem is I’m in Australia, where we can only keep natives. So the only species I can speak about from experience are ones from this country.
@@BugsandBiology that's unfortunate. Don't get me wrong the species you own are really cool but Im sure you want to own a whole variety.
I really want to own a Scolopendra galapagoensis, that's my number 1 favorite species! Dehaani are super easy to find here in the states at reptile shows and different pet stores. I like dehaani but I don't think it's a species I really want to own. I also want to own a Chinese redheaded centipede (mutilans) but those are very very difficult to find.
Hey! I didn’t know this was a scolopendra Subspinipes, the one I have is brown with yellowish legs is that the actual deehani? I’m not even sure which one I have anymore, I thought that centipede he had was a form of the Laeta
Sounds like dehaani yellow leg, look it up👍
Dehaani yellow legs are literally the most common breed of centipede in the hobby dude...
Yeah that sounds like S. dehaani. The yellow legged form is probably the most commonly available pede in many places.
Oh and also Scolopendra laeta is a very small centipede, and it's exclusive to Australia.
@@BugsandBiology ahh okay makes sense, it gets really confusing honestly…. I guess that’s the issue with the invertebrate hobby, a lot of species look similar and are mislabelled I can’t even begin to tell you what it’s like owning phormictopus or Aphonopelma tarantula species, those genuses are a complete mess and I’m sure it’s the same for some centipedes
What do you think centipedes evolved from? Do you think they are more closely related to or part of the Pancrustacea (Hexapods and crustaceans) or the Arachnomorpha (Chelicerates, trilobites and relatives)? As far as I can tell the most popular taxonomic grouping for myriapods is the Mandibulata hypothesis, uniting them with hexapods as descendants of crustaceans. But I have heard there is also a hypothesis based on DNA analysis that groups them with chelicerates, but that seems strange. They look to me kind of like armored onychophorans or lobopodian worms but as euarthropods, so maybe they descend from some kind of anomalocaridid descendant or whatever lineage out of the lobopodia that gave rise to actual arthropods, and they did come onto land a lot sooner than the insects, in the SIlurian at the latest, so I dunno, it seems to me like myriapods may be really basal in the arthropod evolutionary tree.
From what I recall, myriapods are mandibulates like insects and crustaceans. And they do possess the group’s characteristics, like mandibles and antennae. Might have to do a deeper dive into their evolutionary history at some point.
"begging a centipede to cooperate in complete futility", this makes me laugh :)))
I've always wondered how old EL is. Saw one of his vids where he said he lives with his parents
Hes good with tarantulas and decent with scorpions, but he just doesnt give centipedes the right care
He is *TERRIBLE* with tarantulas!! Whenever he wants to breed his Ts, he turns it into a party, inviting friends over for the big night. They carry on, without realizing that their behavior is affecting the Ts. As a result, he's been losing his males on a regular basis, and doesn't seem to think that his behavior has anything to do with it! I've suggested that he check out Dave's Little Beasties, inorder to see a different way of doing things, but he doesn't seem interested. Dave rarely loses a male, and when he does, his first question is what did *he* do wrong. A much different attitude! No, I wouldn't want to be in the care of EL, regardless of what type of animal I might be!!
@@brookeggleston9314 really, i dont have much experince with tarantulas buts its pretty clear he has no clue what hes doing, evenwith scorpions he stuffs it up, really regret saying what i said a month ago, really bad with scorpions, he doesnt give them a hide,
@@nqten2692 Hey, we all say things we wish we hadn't said! If you want to see some people who take care of their little beasties the right way, check out *Dave's Little Beasties or The Tarantula Collective* Both are different, but respect their little beasts. I enjoy watching both, and if they recommend another channel, you can be sure that it's top notch!
Stay safe and healthy!!✨🕷️✨🦂✨
@@brookeggleston9314yeah he forced a poor male tarantula to be eaten by the female because he wanted them to mate even though the male was running away and the female wasn't interested until he forced the poor guy to the female were then she ate him alive
@@freezasama5802 It’s too bad there isn’t an ethics panel on utube. Channels like his could be banned!!
Comparing your videos on care of centipedes to Exotic Lair's is like comparing apples to oranges; one can be eaten without peeling, the other is a tropical fruit grown on a large grass stalk ... no wait that's bananas isn't it? See?
3:34 even an alien could tell that they are fast moving creatures 😂
Another great video mate,I’m not an expert on Centipedes by any means but even I know that his enclosure’s are not set up properly. Have you tried to reach out to him with some thoughts on his treatment of them. It seems to me he keeps these animals for likes on his Instagram channel.
Idk about the substrates humidity, it's hard to tell from a video, if he lives in a humid climate should be just fine as long as they have a water dish, they could have a hide though
Dude needs a GoPro.
If you had to pick one tarantula species to keep, what would it be?
Acanthoscurria geniculata. They sound like real fun.
@@BugsandBiology I should look into getting one of those. I have a pterinochilus murinus and let me tell you, what they say about it is true.
Wow you weren’t kidding about that bad care lol
We have the light brown, dark brown, red, and blue centipede. Their bites are painful no matter what color. The red centipede is really fast. The blue, I have seen in a long time. But I wouldn't want to either. It's big and dirty. Their bite hurts for days.
4:15 just about sums up this whole video! A more recent video from EL popped up on my feed called like "caring for centipedes has been a nightmare" or something like that! 😂 I was one of your few followers who probably didn't know this guy before seeing this. I really wonder how someone could think he has any expertise if this is how he acts! I suppose this guy was either not mature enough or was not ready to handle centipedes.
I'm not sure whether EL has improved or not but I hope so.
Maybe I just caught this guy in a bad moment and he usually composes himself better and treats his animals better but, judging from this video, I don't know how anyone could take him seriously. I'm sure I would have had a different impression if I was introduced to EL earlier. However, I can't tell why you received criticism for covering the subpar animal care displayed here.
Next week, Eumillipes persephone!
Next week's video is already completed and scheduled for upload (and funnily enough, millipedes feature quite prominently in it), but Eumillipes will definitely be the topic of an upcoming video.
I'm not a crawly enthusiast, so my technical knowledge is minimal...but as someone who cares for animals well, it's difficult to watch this footage.
I've been in the homes of reptile/arthropod enthusiasts before and would never have imagined such a low standard of care or lack of insight.
I care for cats and dogs, mostly. But in a similar circumstance, they'd behave about the same as the centipede he was trying to switch into a new "enclosure". On which note...those containers look more like bad monotubs for mushroom cultivation than anything. I wouldn't even expect mycelium to live well in that.
Don't knock the tarantula, which one jumps?!
this makes me feel better about clumsily rehousing my S. polymorpha by scooping it with a big spoon lol
3:37 ehh i could totally see a scenario where someone looks at a centipede's legs and assumes they are short and therefore slow.
I just got one this weekend. Literally because I'm scared of them. Stromatopelma calceatum? No big deal! I've got 3 and they don't bother me. But 'pedes... they make my hair stand up.
So I got one half because it's exciting, and half to conquer my fears.
Doing my research to give it the best home I can offer. I would never go to Exotics Lair for husbandry... I kinda stopped watching him as I got more experience keeping inverts. Even tho his videos are what brought me into the hobby
9:16 “Slithering its way into your rear” moment
I watched a few EL videos some years ago, but I found his one handed filmed videos very annoying. I´m not sure if he is just acting, but he is so scared and jumpy around some of his pets that I don´t understand while he kept them. Also I didn´t like his enclosures design.
Same here. Working around centipedes and OW tarantulas with one hand seems very foolish to me. And it's not like tripods don't exist.
down the rabbit hole that calls to me on getting a centipede buddy....
That care is horrendous.
I saw some of Exotics videos and if i remember correctly he make 2 or 3 centipdere rehousing videos with same centipede. He just move it to glass encloaser, back to plasting and again to glass one. In same day.
I have a friend who works with invertebrates (bio major too) and he says Centipedes are worse for handling than tarantulas. He says centipedes are untamable while tarantulas are somewhat tamable. Additionally, some centipedes eat tarantulas.
I do disagree with some things in his snake care. For one, says he doesn't thaw the rodents in hot or warm water because it can cook the rodent or grow bacteria. Well, lots of keepers that rodents in hot water and that has never had a problem and hot water from the tap is not hot enough to cook the rodent plus it helps if the rodent is warm since snakes can scense heat. Plus you could just seal the rodents in a plastic bag and thaw them in hot water if bacteria is that big of a deal, but snakes would not have much issue in ingesting bacteria as there's probably lots of it in the animals they would eat in the wild. Additioanlly, he also hand feeds his snakes (and while I know he's not the only pettuber who does it) that's still a huge no in snake keeping as that's just asking to get bit. Grabbing the rodent means the scent is now on your hand and since snakes rely heavily on scent and heat they would not be able to distinguish what is the rodent or your hand if your holding the rodent directly (due to heat signature), where's the tongs will not give off the heat signature and your hand will be out of the snake's strike range. I see he was tongs in this video so I wonder why he doesn't use them to feed the snakes. Because many look up to him, he should use safe practices by not hand feeding and setting an example for others.
While I will agree that, on average, giant centipedes are worse for handling than tarantulas, I’d probably say it’s the opposite as far as “taming” goes. Tarantulas don’t seem to show many signs of getting used to handling at all, while centipedes can exhibit rather shocking changes in temperament if worked with properly. It’s not a straightforward process admittedly, and some centipedes respond to it far better than others.
@@BugsandBiology Well it could be the species of spider my friend handled, he usually worked with Rose Hair and Red Knee Tarantula's which according to him the Rose Hairs are more beginner level and docile. But centipedes do tend to move faster which might also be why he say's they're more difficult to handle.
The Homophobic dad comment 😂😂😂😂😂
Absolutely poor husbandry, period! 🤬
Glad that you did a reaction video about Exotics Liar, his methods are poor and it's worrying to think that new keepers are watching his content and thinking that's the way things should be done.
Have you seen his pairing of Grammostola Rosea? It's simply awful.
Keep up the great work, love the information that you include (especially on Funnel Webs). 👍
Cheers. That was the main reason I responded, cause he sets a poor example for his viewers.
I've never watched his tarantula pairings, but I've heard he loses males a lot. Is that what happened with the G. rosea?
@@BugsandBiology
The male was literally put in front of the female, the male had no time to initiate drumming or anything. The female goes defensive, panic ensues and Exotics Liar ends up cutting one of the males legs off with scissors. The whole thing is a car crash from start to finish, the man just shouldn't be keeping any animals full stop.
I've not kept Centipedes, however I know that a decent hide is essential & wtf was that substrate he's using???
Keep up the good work gent & best wishes for the new year.
@@BugsandBiology
ua-cam.com/video/CU1iOjLFh_c/v-deo.html
This link should show the video in question.
Jesus... How this guy has an audience is beyond me
@@BugsandBiology
Maybe the Grammostola one can be your next reaction video.
Hi there my favorite spider guy (not sure of your name). My name is peta and I have to say that I absolutely love watching your videos! Your very comical yet enthralling to listen to. Not sure if u write a script. But I really really really love All of your spider vids!!!!! Ur raw and fresh! Great animals they are :-)
Honestly I’m a huuuggeeee snakes and spiders girl and not really into centipedes. No offense, just there not as fascinating to me. I love the way snakes eat, and also the diverse way spiders hunt and eat. You are the only person on this world though who has gotten me to really love THE SFB. So thank you and I have seeN MOST OF your vids on the “menacing” infamous spider. I assume ur in Oz, is it hard to own tarantulas here? I follow Tarantuala Kat, most of her animals are quite entertaining (and she did an incredible video on debunking the brown recluse apider- although relevant in US she has ALLLOOTTT OF SPOODS! I’ve also watched a few tarantula videos especially about the Goliath BE and Brazilian wondering spider. And yeah I’m not saying u have to get one but please DONT STOP DOING YOUR REACTION VIDEOS!!!🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂
I also love your handling of the gorgeous orb and I’m tempted to give it a cuddle too next time I see one! So precious!
Can you please point me to the videos where u were talking about seeing some old world Ts jumping! That would be cool!
Cheers mate and thank you! Sorry I’m not into centerpedes, they just don’t have that same obsession that I have with those 8 legged freaks!!! Much love 💗🙌🤣
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Thanks! I only write a script for the informative videos where I cover scientific discoveries (such as my videos on prehistoric animals, and the newly discovered funnel-web), as there's often a lot of details to be mentioned, and I could miss something important if I just went off the top of my head. Otherwise, my content is unscripted.
I'm so glad I was able to change your perception on funnel-webs; they really aren't as scary as many people would have you believe. I am indeed located in Australia, and I wouldn't say it's hard to own tarantulas here as people have been breeding them for a while and they're fairly available. However, we don't have access to the wide variety of species available to overseas keepers due to this country's very strict import laws.
I've seen a few videos of OW tarantulas jumping, but this is the first that came to my mind: ua-cam.com/video/54rudQN4MLk/v-deo.html
Based on the first few frames, looks like dry and inappropriate substrate is being used...
Yep that's basically the gist of it.
He's terrible with tarantulas too. His pairing vids make me cringe.
The animal should be comfy
we love scolopendra s too ...Also you have right NOT EVEYONE HAS GOOD TASTE...respect
I'm not a fan of him much but I will say he says right on his UA-cam homepage that he isn't an expert and is just a popular young collector. I do think in time he will grow into a very good keeper.
Great video he is frightened of centipedes but he still keeps them lol
I stopped watching that channel a while back for all the reasons you've mentioned here. Also, I just found it way too frustrating to watch. Carrying around glass enclosures like that while holding phone.
At 7:56 he almost got bit by the pede 🤣 dont fuck around with Centapedes
He is way too obsessed with doing everything one handed, in my opinion.
In defence of exotic lair he never claims to be an expert(unlike others u crtiized like coyote), pretty sure he dont want to be seen as this expert everyone think he is
I’d rehouse 100 Scolopendra before I even open up a Heteroscodra maculata 😅
Yeah those guys sound scary haha. Only tarantula I own is a Selenotypus. She's fairly chill, especially for an OW (although Australian tarantulas in general don't appear to be as mean as some overseas types) but I'm still more comfortable with most of my centipedes when it comes to maintenance.
Friend said I should start keeping centipedes so I would lose my fear of them. I said "Aw hell nah". I'm a little desensitized to them after watching a bunch of videos on them but there's no way I'm gonna keep one, if I'm gonna start keeping a venomous animal I'm not gonna start with the most dangerous one.
There’s lots of different types of centipede, and some are quite beginner friendly. Problem is, there isn’t very much info about them online compared to other inverts like tarantulas, so it’s harder for new keepers to make informed decisions.
@@BugsandBiology That's true, the only video I found on youtube that shows centipedes being kept as pets was Exotics Lair and then yours, the rest are all just animal abuse videos of people pitting various animals against each other. I'd feel much more safe getting a tarantula or scorpion because there's extensive info about which ones are docile, which ones flick more/less hairs, which scorpion has the least dangerous sting etc. I cannot find the same amount of info about centipedes. The other thing I'd be worried about with them is escapes, I don't worry so much about myself being bitten but more about my cat being bitten and the video of exotics lair, with the centipedes escaping out of their habitats, didn't exactly make me feel safer with them. It's really their venom that freaks me out, I love millipedes for example as they're harmless detritivores - detritivores are my friends (I keep isopods). It's hard to find info and that makes me feel insecure and worried about keeping them. They are super cool to look at (and I do believe in desensitization, I beat my phobia of bees by exposing myself to them) but I feel like I'd be going into it blind, much like Exotics Lair probably did. I saw you have centipede playlists tho so I've got these opened and am making my way through them. I still think they're super cool pets but not for me right now.
I personally can't watch his videos, the care of his animals is so bad and his videos are actually detrimental to our hobby instead of helping to educate people. I can't believe he keeps centipedes this way, no wonder they wanted to escape from their enclosures.
He's definitely one of the more controversial invert UA-camrs, and not without reason.
You say what I think
5:50 I'm sobbing
Even though I support Exotics lair, this video is amazing and it states a good point
More exotics lair reactions please. Watering tarantula part 6 with 35 million views.
I only watched one his of videos a while ago, dude is the worst invert channel I'd ever seen.
He's definitely up (or down) there in my opinion. Sets a pretty poor example for his audience.
Hey, I know this irrelevant but you should react to casual geographic's top 5 most dangerous animals in Australia
Cheers, I'll check that out
I agree
The way he bashes the lid every time. And the fool put them into tubs that are so shallow with no shelter. Not at all good.
Dont call him a fool
His videos are not suppose to be educational only entertaining purposes
That doesn't change the fact that those are real animals being kept under horrible conditions. His care is indefensible, and as someone with a huge audience, you'd think he'd try to be a better influence.
I still look up to him but I have one tip. PUT THE CAMERA DOWN!
exotics layer is totally rubbish click bait nonsense ,the only good thing he does is bring people into the hobby but once they do some proper research and find out the guy is a total fraud with no interest in the animals he keeps they don't go back. Glad you made this video .
But the centipedes are snakes tho they love the husk 😅
I see it now I gotta take the obt to the eyeball 👁️ proceeding letting them roam a month maby two, "tell me I'm unique!" 🤓 baahaa😅
blah blah blah.....i love him reasons he has 3.2million
I think people confuse him for an educational channel which he's not, he's an entertainment channel. There's plenty of educational invert channels.
See, this confirms my thoughts that he's not as well educated as I previously thought. His videos don't have a lot of actual husbandry information, doesn't discuss anything really about the animals hes showing. I've since discovered other tarantula channels and they seem to be FAR more knowledgeable.
Yeah there's plenty of invert channels that provide much better information than he does, not that that's a hard line to pass. But of course, EL is the one who's got the biggest following, and still can't be screwed to actually set a good example.
@@BugsandBiology I'm more than likely going to stop watching him after I found better channels. Kind of set me off when he was laughing the tarantula was still alive after taking 3 weeks to arrive. I dont see what's funny about a potentially slow death for the tarantula. 🤷♀️ I'd rather give my views to channels that actually care about the animals they have.
Also the Cherry red is much brighter and looks like a walking highlighter
Also those enclosures do not look aesthetically pleasing and not nearly big enough for those centipedes, I have never owned a centipede…. Yet and I already know that is not a suitable enclosure. Those centipedes look bored to f*ck
Aesthetics isn’t really much of a concern given centipedes are basically blind. But the substrate is terrible cause it can’t retain moisture or hold a burrow, and there’s no hiding places either.
lol this dude needs to keep ants. Might teach him to keep better sealing lits. Try keeping a million ant fire ant colony happy and contained. O.o they keep you on your toes... especially if they DO get loose!
Yeah that certainly sounds fun.
Wish I could keep ants too, but I’m a bit worried about escapes.
@@BugsandBiology get Camponotus pennsylvaniacus. They're large and die outside the humidity of their tank. use a basic aquarium with a glass folding lid. silicone the back plastic flap so it closes without gaps and use talc powder on the top rim to keep them from getting out when you open though I have never had any escape while doing anything. They tend to realize quickly the outside it too dry or something. They're slow growing, larger and a perfect start to any ant keeper. They also dont sting though the large majors can bite hard. They never get too large in number, only a few hundred unlike some that can get to a few hundred thousand. You can also place larva and brood from one colony and the other will accept them as long as they're closely related. like Camponotus herculinus will take my C Penn brood but not Solenopsis or Formica. They also take C americanus. It seems as long as they're the same genus, they will accept.
I have to wonder how many UA-cam creators stage or exaggerate for views?
I mean, just how much content can you get from "Here's a bug... Here's another... Here's another... Here's supposedly another... Doing nothing, hiding in it's burrow..."
I mean, a large collection eats up time, space and money and you keep the UA-cam and supporter money coming in by making entertaining video's and much of the time venomous invertebrates aren't necessarily that entertaining unless they escape or are provoked into putting on a show.
I dunno.. I really enjoy Dave's Little Beasties channel and he never seems to have any sort of drama like this.. Only thing ive really seen happen is him lose a few male spiders while pairing them, which is rather common in the hobby. He is actually fairly good at protecting the males when he can
Dave's definitely a great keeper. Sensible, level-headed and always keeps an air of professionalism.
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I've seen Dave's channel and I've never seen him really dramatize anything, he has said he keeps interaction with his inverts to a minimum - a hidden spider is a happy spider and all that.
@@BugsandBiology ive heard EL mention a couple times that he doesnt keep pokeys anymore also.. Which kinda makes me wonder if because of their propensity to bolt and being some of the more venomous group of Ts if he is nervous.. Which doesnt make much sense to me because if I was an above average owner Pokeys would be the first Ts I would have, they all look so amazing
Thank you!! I allways hated these videos. So caotic... And awfull husbandry yeas, indeed....
I stopped watching Exotics Lair after watching a number of his videos. It became obvious that he was doing things in a fairly chaotic way to generate dramatic content, and this video is an example. The last straw for me were a couple of videos where male tarantulas got killed by females during breeding attempts, and another tarantula getting (likely fatally) injured from a fall. All preventable with proper planning and preparation and having both hands available.
Watch Daves Little Beasties instead - same basic content but done with care, calm, and planning.
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I haven't even heard of Exotics Lair... Not gonna check him out lol Good response, sir!
honestly his channel is pretty fun but he's definitely not a professional, he's clearly incredibly passionate about his bugs but he still makes mistakes
I've always noticed he seems to clown his pet care a lot on his videos, but this just makes me cringe
I think exotic s lair should not have eny tarantulas or centipede s he should jest stick to keeping goldfish
Goldfish are honestly harder to care for than often thought, so I don't think EL should even be keeping those. I'd maybe draw the line at cacti.
@@BugsandBiology I do still like watching he's videos but when you see sorten animals on he's channel he donst keep some of them in good condition like what you sed when the centipede s Bedding was to dry
Painful to watch. EL appears to be an enteratinment channel that seems to 'create' situations / drama for views.
I can’t stand him, he’s always doing some idiotic stuff and always has an excuse for everything. It’s really sad when someone doesn’t understand the reach they have and they do the stuff he does. I just wish his account would be banned, as much as I’m against censorship I think everyone would be better off without his shenanigans.
Wait? People think Exotics Lair is professional? His care of animals is shit. The way he treats his hognose is why she dry strikes him all the time
If you think this is bad, you should check out his tarantula pairing videos! As for his large following, I fear that many watch his videos to see what disasters he's cooked up this week! I don't think he truly has any interest in exotic creatures. They are nothing more than a way to make money off of utube. Unfortunately, a great many innocent creatures are being abused, and in the case of his male tarantulas, slaughtered.
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Agreed with every word you said pretty much
@@BugsandBiology The alternative is that he is lacking in critical thinking skills, if you know what I mean!
I find EL intolerable, and that’s before seeing this video.
Yeah I honestly can't get why his following is so big. Many other invert channels are objectively better in almost every aspect.
I miss this channel called “Lair of the Centipedes”.
Dunno what happened to it…
Awww poor things . Your right on all accounts .
Yes he is but mistakes do happen. And ofc the smartest and obvious thing to do is exchange tips and advice. Not make a fucking video about it to shit on
@@jackhamilton8771 See where your coming from not to shame people . The main thing is to point out: Is that they were not kept right and not for the thousands of followers to make the same mistakes . It’s the creatures care that is important. But if it was me I’d of contacted mr Exotic L & corrected him so he could rectify & give him a chance to rectify his own mistakes on his own video.
@@jackhamilton8771 In a comment above, Bugs and Biology said he attempted to contact him about how to improve his husbandry, yet he got no reply
@@griffinc3263 oh yeah i seen it already. Great response though it really cleared things up
EL is a cancer to the hobby
Indeed
This kid is a horrible T breeder also he’s so jumpy they just turn into feeding vids horrible.☹️
I feel like Daves Little Beasties is the channel i watch to see someone who knows exactly what he is doing and takes the time to explain all the husbandry and what each species needs to thrive and he is always super calm and gentle with his critters
I kind of think that EL isn't really that scared of his pets. It seems to me he's just acting up the make his videos more dramatic
In all fairness he doesn't claim to be a pro I like his content and if anyone thinks he's giving advice he's not he's just showing his journey in the hobby
You know I love watching your videos no one's perfect are you have so much great knowledge he's a young kid would love to know your knowledge when you send him an email don't you get in touch with him try to help him out a little bit be really great if people try to build people up and I know you're not tearing him down I'm just saying you could use the help apparently get in touch with them you see he's Young he has a great following so helping with his centipedes and you're helping him a lot more people
Is it too much to ask for punctuation? Also he’s not “young”, he’s a teacher.
@@MaverickLadd it absolutely is not too much to ask and I never said it was I'm not tearing anybody down and he might be a teacher he's still young and everyone can still learn things and everyone can use help from someone else that's all I'm saying I wasn't trying to get into argue with anyone I'm just saying if you know knowledge you see someone that does not maybe you should help them with that knowledge
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Have you seen Bugs on camera?
He's not exactly of pension age...
Besides, if you put your knowledge/skills on UA-cam for the world to see you're going to attract criticism - constructive or otherwise.
@@pauln6803 yeah but still no one is perfect. Even teachers make mistakes. I feel that if people truly are concern about his ways they would instead contact him personally instead of ridiculing/expressing hate through a video. I think its kinda fucking retarded ngl
If we have two people who keep Centipedes in their enclosures, and one knows more than the other, then the logical step would be to exchange advice. I don't know if it's neccessary to be rude to one another. I fully understand that it's EXTREMELY tempting to call someone out for their incompetence, and REALLY pound them to the ground for it, but let's TRY to be in the Christmas spirit and be nice to each other.
Late comment. EL's my friend irl. He has a mental illness
i dont think u should say s word too the cage of the centipedes i woudnt say there that bad im a centipede and millepede expert please disrespect the cage he uses
If four centipedes can escape an enclosure setup within a single day or so, I think they’re objectively shit. Calling them that isn’t being disrespectful, it’s being honest.
Also by what metrics are you an “expert”?
Thank you, I just don't like that why did you bully him? He only learn now, so instead you can message him some tip to become better?