North Vietnamese K-50M Submachine Gun

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    The K-50M was a North Vietnamese modification of the PPSh-41 submachine gun to mimic the handling of a French MAT-49. Made from Chinese Type 50 guns (which were direct copies of the original PPSh-41) in small shops, the K-50M used a wholly new lower receiver assembly. This new lower fitted an AK pistol grip and a collapsing wire stock patterned after the MAT-49. The barrel was kept intact, but the barrel shroud was shortened, the muzzle brake/compensator removed, and a new AK (or SKS) style of front sight block added. Mechanically, the guns remained unchanged, firing from an open bolt in 7.62x25mm Tokarev caliber, with the semiauto selector switch of the original Shpagin. The K-50M is compatible with PPSh-41 drums (allowing for fitting issues), but was issued with 35-round box magazines.
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  • @nindger4270
    @nindger4270 4 роки тому +688

    It looks like an AK and a PPS had a child and abandoned it in the wilderness where it was raised by a tribe of outcast MP40s.

  • @swampk9
    @swampk9 4 роки тому +373

    Welds on the barrel look so crude because the welder had tears in his eyes

    • @markwhite1780
      @markwhite1780 4 роки тому +2

      That and he lost part of his vision and had a headache for a month.

    • @JSCB-365
      @JSCB-365 4 роки тому +15

      I was aware that the gun could be reactivated. I was going to comment on that then he said it at the end of the video. I worked at a shop where a gun came in for reactivation. The tooth paste booger welds didn't take long to remove once the paperwork was in order.

    • @Phantom8589
      @Phantom8589 4 роки тому +3

      @@JSCB-365 What paperwork is required? I got a trophy gun home from a deployment and wasn't aware I could re-activate it.

    • @ryanthan3595
      @ryanthan3595 4 роки тому

      @Hoàng Nguyên this is one week ago? Damn I grew up watching my uncle weld with proper protection and were not allowed to look at the light

    • @DangNguyen-xx3zi
      @DangNguyen-xx3zi 3 роки тому

      @@JSCB-365 Wouldn't those welds destroy the integrity of the gun? I can imagine the barrel not being really safe after all that heavy welding done

  • @EbonTheLord
    @EbonTheLord 4 роки тому +782

    An interesting SMG I first learned about from Rising Storm 2: Vietnam.

    • @WanganTune3DXPluDeaf
      @WanganTune3DXPluDeaf 4 роки тому +22

      same and crazy fire rate!

    • @0devast8r0
      @0devast8r0 4 роки тому +14

      Weird i just finish playing Rising Storm 2. I got some kills with it. lol

    • @nataneraser
      @nataneraser 4 роки тому +4

      same, very interesting smg

    • @micahdadbeh5955
      @micahdadbeh5955 4 роки тому +4

      Same here. It’s good when it’s used by a us soldier >:D

    • @Jaszczur-sp2tx
      @Jaszczur-sp2tx 4 роки тому +55

      GI GO HOME

  • @kaitokatsuki6862
    @kaitokatsuki6862 4 роки тому +494

    Vietnamese viewer here. We call it the K-50M in Vietnam as well. In museums and historical catalogues/documentaries, it's often referred to as "tiểu liên K-50M", meaning "K-50M submachine gun".
    It goes without the hyphen sometimes, I mean, it's kinda inconsistent.

    • @arandomguy1378
      @arandomguy1378 4 роки тому +8

      Có 1 sự khác biệt "khá lớn" giữa súng trường rút gọn (carbine) và súng tiểu liên.

    • @kaitokatsuki6862
      @kaitokatsuki6862 4 роки тому +8

      @@arandomguy1378 thanks bro, mình ko biết "carbine" dịch ra tiếng mình là gì

    • @placeholderHandle932
      @placeholderHandle932 4 роки тому +20

      Also pretty sure the "K" prefix is not based on US docs, it's just short for "Kiểu", which is a Vietnamese word for "Type".

    • @buivietdungtran3065
      @buivietdungtran3065 4 роки тому +2

      @@kaitokatsuki6862 carbine cứ hiểu là súng trường rút gọn

    • @teonguyen7955
      @teonguyen7955 4 роки тому

      interesting ....

  • @DansilSchroeder
    @DansilSchroeder 4 роки тому +203

    Just about broke my heart when I saw it was deactivated. That's murder...

    • @markfergerson2145
      @markfergerson2145 4 роки тому +48

      It's not dead, it's only sleeping.

    • @MrJeepmarine
      @MrJeepmarine 4 роки тому +35

      I ought to be against the law to defile a cool peice of history like that.

    • @bt1234567892010
      @bt1234567892010 4 роки тому +24

      I mean Ian said at the end it could be reactivated with a $200 fee. if I understood right anyway.

    • @Brainwashed101
      @Brainwashed101 4 роки тому +14

      @@bt1234567892010 An SOT/FFL07 could definitely turn it back into a machinegun. But since the registry is closed, it still wouldn't be accessible to us peasants... *shakes fist at 1986 NFA*

    • @Brainwashed101
      @Brainwashed101 4 роки тому +15

      @@bt1234567892010 Nevermind, I just watched it to the end and it appears to have been registered already.

  • @hathaway.1166
    @hathaway.1166 4 роки тому +416

    Dunno if anyone knows this but Vietnam has a *double stack* variant of the Tokarev pistol called the K14-VN, it also has better sights and longer barrel for more accuracy

    • @a.hauptmann8798
      @a.hauptmann8798 4 роки тому +28

      It still lacked a safety though.

    • @xpavpushka
      @xpavpushka 4 роки тому +4

      Nice to know

    • @randomstranger9442
      @randomstranger9442 4 роки тому +34

      @@a.hauptmann8798 I don't think they needed one though

    • @kietfeeder
      @kietfeeder 4 роки тому +3

      Nice to know

    • @yocapo32
      @yocapo32 4 роки тому +46

      @@a.hauptmann8798
      Only the export version of the Tokarev had a safety, the Soviet military versions had no safeties at all.

  • @caprise-music6722
    @caprise-music6722 4 роки тому +367

    *EVERY TIME* I watch some war documentary on tv and I see a weapon I’m not familiar with, the next day conveniently pops up a video of it on Forgotten Weapons!
    It’s uncanny. Thank you! 🙏🏻

  • @cabbage6015
    @cabbage6015 4 роки тому +165

    K-50M is the correct vietnamese designation. K is just an abbreviation for "Kiểu" in Vietnamese, which means "type" or "model". A lot of Chinese weapons when given to Vietnam were assigned a "K" designation. For example, the Type 54 pistol, the Chinese version of the TT-33, is called K-54 in Vietnam

    • @TungNguyen-zq1rr
      @TungNguyen-zq1rr 4 роки тому +2

      hóa ra chữ k là như vậy :)))

    • @wildcardbitchesyeehaw8320
      @wildcardbitchesyeehaw8320 4 роки тому +4

      It seems that a lot of Asian languages have single word that can be translated to either Type or Model. Makes me wonder why in the west we choose to translate it to Type even though in non-Asian weapons are usually designated Model something or other.

    • @Drownedinblood
      @Drownedinblood 4 роки тому +1

      Probably just direct translating the names.

    • @IKnowImStupidBut
      @IKnowImStupidBut 4 роки тому

      @@Drownedinblood infact, it is

  • @olddirtbiker5088
    @olddirtbiker5088 4 роки тому +93

    For $200 and the gunsmithing cost of reactivating this could be a good investment if the auction price was not too much.

    • @knottheory79220
      @knottheory79220 4 роки тому +14

      @@ffarmchicken Yeah it's a shame that they mutilated this gun like that, but it's a historical artifact at this point and not so much a practical firearm. Better to preserve what's left of it rather than take a risk like that.

    • @rcbif101
      @rcbif101 4 роки тому +6

      With what I see, it only needs the barrel chamber remachined. There is no weld holding the barrel in. Easy job.

    • @user-njyzcip
      @user-njyzcip 4 роки тому +20

      I mean a Dremel is only 100 dollars, you can buy a Mosin and take out its barrel, cut it in half and you have a PPSh barrel :P that's how they were made in WW2 anyway

    • @MrGreghome
      @MrGreghome 4 роки тому +15

      @@user-njyzcip the secret to why every Soviet Gun prior to the AK74 was a 7.62, whether it was a 7.62R,7.62 AK or 7.62 x25mm.
      They all use the same barrel drill

    • @MrRoboskippy
      @MrRoboskippy 4 роки тому

      I'll bet the current owner knows that.

  • @joet.s.6283
    @joet.s.6283 4 роки тому +104

    Me: "oh man, I hope there's firing footage!"
    *hears the word "decommissioned"
    Me: well damn

    • @user-njyzcip
      @user-njyzcip 4 роки тому +3

      It's just a PPSh and there's firing footage of that

    • @McCbobbish
      @McCbobbish 4 роки тому +10

      @@user-njyzcip correction: it's a *cool-looking* PPSH-41

    • @denyspoyner4150
      @denyspoyner4150 4 роки тому +3

      Deactivated or decommissioned, either way "destroyed" would be more accurate. : (

    • @rcbif101
      @rcbif101 4 роки тому +5

      @@denyspoyner4150 it's not "destroyed". I could get that firing in a morning. Defaced is more like it.

    • @izzfitri6888
      @izzfitri6888 4 роки тому

      Eh, just rebuild a new one with exact part.

  • @RobertPilla
    @RobertPilla 4 роки тому +142

    "open gaps in the gun..." You mean, "mud alleviation ports."

    • @ajcossey
      @ajcossey 4 роки тому +12

      More like, "mud ingress points"

    • @diltzm
      @diltzm 4 роки тому +2

      Lol let me know how that goes for you

  • @ComradeAesthetic
    @ComradeAesthetic 4 роки тому +347

    The "K" in "K-50M" is an acronym. In Vietnamese, it means "Kiểu" and in English, it means Type.
    Sorry for bad English hope you guy understand
    Edit 1: OMG Thank for the like, heart and kind words guy !!!

    • @TheDeadfast
      @TheDeadfast 4 роки тому +21

      Thank you for the explanation. And don't worry, your English is fine!

    • @Tankliker
      @Tankliker 4 роки тому +3

      @@TheDeadfast Yeah, I definitly read comments worse then this XD

    • @frostyy51
      @frostyy51 4 роки тому +4

      Ur English is understandable bruh. Btw Vuetnamese here

    • @Duc_Anh_809
      @Duc_Anh_809 4 роки тому +3

      K = "kiểu"= type

    • @ComradeAesthetic
      @ComradeAesthetic 4 роки тому +3

      Thank for the kind words guy, stay safe and healthy.

  • @Kevin-mx1vi
    @Kevin-mx1vi 4 роки тому +87

    Those welds hurt my eyes.

    • @Namelesswhirl
      @Namelesswhirl 4 роки тому +9

      They hurt every one's eyes.

    • @stefanmolnapor910
      @stefanmolnapor910 4 роки тому +14

      Thoes laws hurt my heart :(

    • @jamesriggs6210
      @jamesriggs6210 4 роки тому +1

      I agree. My interest in this video dropped way off after Ian revealed it was deactivated. I watched till the end though.

    • @mjriemen
      @mjriemen 4 роки тому

      james riggs Funny enough me too. Which is silly because all the guns Ian shows may as well be deactivated... I’m never going to own or eve shoot hardly any.

    • @TyCetto
      @TyCetto 4 роки тому

      @Geba Who all had zero reason for being there in the first place. So the hurt was OK. :-)

  • @justin4323
    @justin4323 4 роки тому +744

    nobody:
    Ian: Somehow the French had influenced this.

    • @johnwilliams9179
      @johnwilliams9179 4 роки тому +30

      Basically

    • @ComradeAesthetic
      @ComradeAesthetic 4 роки тому +6

      He right, I explained it in my comment feel free to check it out.

    • @cameron5948
      @cameron5948 4 роки тому +4

      @@ComradeAesthetic or that Google is always listening if it was an older upload :)

    • @heshiram1188
      @heshiram1188 4 роки тому +7

      Vietnam was called French Indochina before they became independent

    • @armyman-ig7qs
      @armyman-ig7qs 4 роки тому

      See French influences is of course smokeless powder

  • @rcbif101
    @rcbif101 4 роки тому +52

    Dayton Airforce Museum has one on display.
    Everyone's looking at the airplanes, and I'm edging around a glass display case trying to get the best picture of an SMG, lol

    • @MrJeepmarine
      @MrJeepmarine 4 роки тому +12

      Best aircraft museum in my opinion!

  • @kennethobrien9327
    @kennethobrien9327 4 роки тому +3

    Only seen one of these. It had been de-activated by several 5.56 hits to receiver Aug. 1969. Never forget how handy it looked.

  • @bageled_meme2690
    @bageled_meme2690 4 роки тому +77

    Ppsh41 and Mp40 ended up in Vietnam and a gunsmith was like, “Này đây là những khẩu súng tuyệt vời. Hãy để tôi băm chúng và đặt chúng lại với nhau!” And then he was like, “Này, tôi có thể tận dụng thiết kế này! Họ có thể sẽ tuyên bố tôi đã đóng góp cho sự nghiệp của mọi người nhưng bất cứ điều gì!”

    • @wisniewski5171
      @wisniewski5171 4 роки тому +23

      > Băm chúng
      > Nhưng bất cứ điều gì
      You used google translate right?

    • @syahran1518
      @syahran1518 4 роки тому +24

      sorry i don't speak trees

    • @maxmuller8633
      @maxmuller8633 4 роки тому +4

      @@wisniewski5171 Not really, old Vietnamese use them alot. Especially in the North

    • @nguyen-vuluu3150
      @nguyen-vuluu3150 3 роки тому +1

      @@wisniewski5171 i speak trees and i can say both of yall are speaking nonsensical bullcrap

  • @lethanhlam3434
    @lethanhlam3434 4 роки тому +70

    During 1960, the North Vietnamese Army decided that they must design a new weapons to provide for a guerrillas soldier in the south, this weapons must be have a strong firepower and simple to be fit for guerrilla tactics. This mission was assigned to Z1 factory. They used the stock and a rear sight of a MAT-49 SMG to replace the original stock and rear sight of an original PPSh-41, remove the barrel casing and used the 35 round- box megazine, so that how the K-50M SMG was create

    • @frisk3320
      @frisk3320 4 роки тому

      chào ae

    • @nemergix1707
      @nemergix1707 4 роки тому

      How the hell do you know that ?

    • @lethanhlam3434
      @lethanhlam3434 4 роки тому

      @@frisk3320 Chào đồng chí

    • @lethanhlam3434
      @lethanhlam3434 4 роки тому +7

      @@nemergix1707 Because I know everything about NVA and Vietcong weapons in the Vietnam war, not just AK-47 or SKS

    • @dandhan87
      @dandhan87 4 роки тому +1

      @@lethanhlam3434I have a question that do the Vietnam factories produce M16 and M14 rifles

  • @SayNoToDemocide1
    @SayNoToDemocide1 4 роки тому +63

    5:00 I think that's a good design coincidence, considering how the average Vietnamese person is shorter than the average Frenchman, especially back then with (North) Vietnam being a new, poor country with poor nutrition (my own mother is from Vietnam, and she would've starved to death even in the 80's and very early 90's when she was a college student if it wasn't for her supportive friends. That's to give you an idea how poor Vietnam was). My own grandfather was a Major in the South Vietnamese Army as a paperwork officer (with all due respect to him) and was imprisoned for 10 years after South Vietnam fell for working for the South Vietnamese government.
    And I'm surprised how this video was out for only a few hours and how there are so many Vietnamese people in the comments section.

    • @tophatvn8278
      @tophatvn8278 4 роки тому +2

      SayNoTo Democide well we’re developed now, ~10% left is still suffering from starvation only

    • @stormystudios9804
      @stormystudios9804 4 роки тому +9

      I think no one is starving today, it is more like they are struggling to pay for food, which is cheap because Vietnam is a food exporter. People might be poor but they ain't starving.

    • @nicolemartelli9033
      @nicolemartelli9033 4 роки тому +5

      @@tophatvn8278 The 10% number is poverty, not starvation

    • @filthymolotovite
      @filthymolotovite 4 роки тому

      D G hey, that ain’t nice!

    • @kitsme9605
      @kitsme9605 3 роки тому +1

      You know, Vietnam is a pretty small country so when some foreign UA-camrs mentioned about Vietnam, they are really proud of their country

  • @snbrinewehr3203
    @snbrinewehr3203 4 роки тому +42

    Scout, report in

  • @Tanuki0110
    @Tanuki0110 3 роки тому +3

    Thanks Ian for covering this unicorn. Some interesting information I found from Vietnamese materials on the K-50M: it was created in an attempt to build "ghost guns" not directly traceable back to North Vietnam. These guns were hence mostly made in the early 60s (~10,000 of them, made by the Z1 arms factory). After the US got directly involved in combat, there's no reason to hide anymore, and North Vietnam sent Soviet/Chinese weapons down south in large number.

  • @valstutz2628
    @valstutz2628 4 роки тому +7

    A rather iconic North Vietnamese weapon, glad to see Ian finally got his hands on one!

  • @jdstark24
    @jdstark24 4 роки тому +3

    I love the Aim-Down-Sight views you include in your videos. It's always been my favorite part. Thank you for putting in that little extra time and effort. You're the man Ian!

  • @Stovokor41
    @Stovokor41 4 роки тому

    Thanks Ian.
    Excellent video and a very welcome break up to my day during these near-lockdown days in Australia.

  • @jayfelsberg1931
    @jayfelsberg1931 4 роки тому +9

    I remember reading about this gun in Small Arms of the World, and wondering how the NVA got something like this to work.

  • @ducomaritiem7160
    @ducomaritiem7160 4 роки тому +1

    That's a very nice vest you're wearing Ian. Comfy + classy.

  • @SnapJ
    @SnapJ 4 роки тому +29

    Weird Comment, but i want that sweater. It looks cool.

    • @onzuoantteri4507
      @onzuoantteri4507 4 роки тому +2

      Yeah, I agree. Here ya go: www.outdoorknitwear.com/cardigans-shawl-collar/72-byreman-chunky-knit-shawl-collar-sweater-with-harris-tweed-patches.html#/size-xs/colour-charcoal

    • @JudoStev
      @JudoStev 4 роки тому

      @@onzuoantteri4507 I had to go searching the comments for this too. That sweater looks so comfortable. Thanks!

  • @bjorntrollgesicht1144
    @bjorntrollgesicht1144 4 роки тому +1

    I can see that the fire control group is original, so is the barrel shroud, etc. They have essentially removed the wooden buttstock and replaced it with bent steel sheet welded directly to the remaining parts and slapped what appears to be a surplus MAT 49 stock. Simple, efficient. glorious.

  • @pekarr1
    @pekarr1 4 роки тому +1

    I am so glad you made a video about this gun, thank you

  • @andreinarangel6227
    @andreinarangel6227 4 роки тому +3

    Would love to see you review a capture MAT49 that North Vietnam rechambered for Tokarev round.

  • @n.a.4292
    @n.a.4292 4 роки тому +1

    What a treat! I read about it in a magazine, always wanted to see one.

  • @ineedlean
    @ineedlean 4 роки тому +9

    Sad to see such an amazing piece of history deactivated but I imagine $200 was still no small amount in 1960s-1970s

    • @classifiedad1
      @classifiedad1 4 роки тому +3

      Killian never mind the 60’s-70’s, imagine $200 in 1934.
      That’s the price of a car. Or a Thompson.

  • @gijake1989
    @gijake1989 4 роки тому +1

    I saw one of those at the 1st cavalry division museum at Fort Hood, TX.

  • @sixtenahlman3375
    @sixtenahlman3375 4 роки тому +1

    Oh god almighty have i been waiting for this! Very little actual info on it on the Internet, so very welcome video

  • @couriersix2445
    @couriersix2445 4 роки тому +17

    I remember learning of this from Mercenaries: Playground Of Destruction back when I was a preteen

    • @itsconnorstime
      @itsconnorstime 4 роки тому +5

      That would be the similar looking Chinese type 85. What a game.

    • @UgandanAirForce
      @UgandanAirForce 4 роки тому +6

      i played that game, i think it was mostly NK officers and some of the Russian mafia guys would carry it in the game

    • @BeingFireRetardant
      @BeingFireRetardant 4 роки тому

      @@UgandanAirForce
      Had the highest rate of fire too...

    • @itsconnorstime
      @itsconnorstime 4 роки тому +1

      I can throw my shoe at em' if you want to?

  • @forrestlindsey3947
    @forrestlindsey3947 2 роки тому +8

    I can assure you that the K50 fired very fast - it felt like 1,000 RPM - and it would eject the empties straight forward. We discovered this when we fired ours into the sand and saw an extra row of holes about 4 inches above the bullet impacts. We captured ours when its former owner tried to fire it at us but the round in the chamber failed to go off. I still have that round with its dented primer. Unfortunate for him, but great for us.

  • @thatmissile7864
    @thatmissile7864 4 роки тому

    Nice, knew you'd eventually get around to this.

  • @jasonz7788
    @jasonz7788 2 роки тому

    Great work Sir

  • @-TheRealPatriot-
    @-TheRealPatriot- 4 роки тому

    Love your vids Ian!

  • @bethelscrubs2549
    @bethelscrubs2549 4 роки тому

    I finally got my book, and it looks amazing. I can't think of a better way to spend my quarantine.

  • @anikazkhrv
    @anikazkhrv Місяць тому +1

    So to make things clear because I had a chance to use a K-50M:
    1. The base of the gun is inconsistent. Some of them is the real papasha after WWII and most are from the Chinese clone. You held a Chinese-baseyd. There are small modifications just to make the mag holder works as the original papasha. because the original Type-50 can use its drum magazines only, while the papasha can use both.
    2. Its fire rate is only 700rpm with soft rubber buffer, you can use the PPSh buffer to restore the badass 1250rpm fire rate, but it will make the gun overheat quickly. That means fire rate will depends on the recoil buffer materials. I used to add some plastics to increase the fire rate to 900rpm and this is suitable for me, but for the NVA and VC at that time, 700rpm is the best for them because of more open fields and they have to sync with the AK training too (AK, not AK-47)
    3. This thing, alongside with PPSh-41 and Type-50, can be modernized to use in law enforcements if they adjust the case ejecting position, but they just stopped the improvising project when they got AKMS aids from Soviet Union. most of all modern SMGs can't be compared with the value of the papasha bought to you: big mag, reliable, accurate, adjustable fire rate, and insane firepower just behind the P90 and MP7.

  • @Mrgunsngear
    @Mrgunsngear 4 роки тому +5

    great info

  • @ZekeAxel
    @ZekeAxel 4 роки тому +18

    Ian saying Pa-Pa-Sha is a joy to hear.

    • @AlASokolov
      @AlASokolov 4 роки тому

      This is a much more correct way of pronouncing the name of this weapon. Ian finally heard complaints from his viewers about the mispronunciation of the names of weapon designers and the incorrect spelling of abbreviations.

    • @honkhonkler7732
      @honkhonkler7732 4 роки тому

      @@AlASokolov Being 'murican, I used to call it a pee-pee-shush as a kid lol

  • @dmitrykarkov4747
    @dmitrykarkov4747 3 роки тому

    Very sleek and cool looking

  • @adamkrueger4463
    @adamkrueger4463 4 роки тому

    @Forgotten Weapons I really like your sweater. Well done. Great video as always.

  • @AJ.Roberts
    @AJ.Roberts 4 роки тому

    I’m new to your channel, love your content and I’m now addicted 👍

  • @blastershogun
    @blastershogun 4 роки тому +70

    I remember watching John Wayne’s “Green Beret” and Sgt Muldoon saying, “ChiCom K-50”
    It appears to be a PPSh :-O
    Sauce : ua-cam.com/video/Yb7tb548Ngk/v-deo.html

    • @capcamouflagepatterni6162
      @capcamouflagepatterni6162 4 роки тому +2

      K-50 is the Vietnamese name for the PPSh and Chinese Type 50 clone of the PPSh. The "K" at the beginning is Vietnamese for "Kieu" meaning model or type. It is no different then calling a gun a M-44 or T-53. The K-50M is the modified version of the K-50

    • @Feiora
      @Feiora 4 роки тому

      That was the name I knew these as for a long time and when I saw the image in the vid section I was like WOO! Finally gonna learn about this gun! :D (Ironically the ChiCom bit was what instantly came to mind too! XD )

    • @sheriff0017
      @sheriff0017 4 роки тому

      The best Vietnam War documentary.

    • @hunter35474
      @hunter35474 3 роки тому

      Considering that they filmed The Green Berets at Fort Benning, I wonder if that display board of "captured weaponry" (as Sgt. Muldoon describes it) was provided by the Army. Maybe they used it for enemy weapons familiarization training or something.

  • @F1ghteR41
    @F1ghteR41 4 роки тому +2

    This is actually a very sound design in terms of training your troops - it has an AK front sight, a PM Mle 49-esque rear sight and stock, overall it's lighter and has some ergonomic qualities to it.

  • @TheRivieraKid
    @TheRivieraKid 4 роки тому +5

    This is the first time i ever got a Forgotten Weapons notification, even though ive the bell icon active.

  • @simonfejta3434
    @simonfejta3434 4 роки тому +6

    K 51m is what would begun if ppsh 41 and mat 49 were cousins in Alabama.

  • @thomasschreiber9559
    @thomasschreiber9559 8 місяців тому +1

    On the modern firearms website the k50 submachine gun has a rate of fire of 700 rpm which is considerably slower than the original pps 41

  • @loupiscanis9449
    @loupiscanis9449 4 роки тому

    Thank you , Ian

  • @DramaLlama1337
    @DramaLlama1337 4 роки тому +41

    An interesting person, papa shaw must've been to be mentioned this many times by Ian

  • @Koshiku
    @Koshiku 4 роки тому

    Ian, thanks for mastering the pronounciation of PPSh, now it's right between it's original name and it's army nickname Papasha (Daddy). It's really nice to hear this from you, in place of a faceless abbreviation (especially since last two English letters stand for one Russian letter).

  • @gumbysworld3472
    @gumbysworld3472 4 роки тому

    Got to shoot one of these, pretty cool gun!

  • @eggcillfoley5130
    @eggcillfoley5130 4 роки тому +11

    just found out about it when playing rising storm 2 yesterday

  • @SimuLord
    @SimuLord 4 роки тому +1

    I know Ian's got a huge backlog of footage available to release for as long as the pandemic lasts...
    ...but it's more fun to think that he's sheltering in place at Rock Island and they're just letting him keep the collection tidy and make videos.

  • @funwithflags7506
    @funwithflags7506 4 роки тому +2

    if you ever get the chance can you do another video on home produced firearms i really enjoyed the one on the avenger smg

  • @aidanfarnan4683
    @aidanfarnan4683 4 роки тому +58

    Last time i was this early, there was still a South Vietnam.

    • @WanganTune3DXPluDeaf
      @WanganTune3DXPluDeaf 4 роки тому +8

      I am still south vietnam :D

    • @huuduyvu9714
      @huuduyvu9714 4 роки тому +7

      @@WanganTune3DXPluDeaf South Vietnam is not a country, but a region. There were 2 regimes at once in the South, one is American-puppet "Republic of Vietnam" and the other is "Provisional Revolutionary Government of Republic of South Vietnam". West-East Germany or North-South Korea don't have that situation at all.

    • @oggyoliver3651
      @oggyoliver3651 4 роки тому +5

      @@huuduyvu9714 one is Chinese communist puppet aka north Vietnam lol

    • @t-34onsnow47
      @t-34onsnow47 4 роки тому +5

      @@oggyoliver3651 the other has been a dead puppet state of the US for 45 years.

    • @t-34onsnow47
      @t-34onsnow47 4 роки тому +1

      @@oggyoliver3651 and the enemies of NATO can even help the one of them (the NATO's member) better than the NATO themselves. I bet this is not the first time the almighty bald eagle abandon his allies, right?

  • @atomicenergycommission9820
    @atomicenergycommission9820 3 роки тому

    One of my fav guns in RS 2

  • @d.b.1176
    @d.b.1176 2 роки тому

    Cool looking gun

  • @WingMaster562
    @WingMaster562 4 роки тому +3

    Something about crudely made/modified guns that make them look cool in my eyes.

    • @DaveTex2375
      @DaveTex2375 4 роки тому +2

      It's a tough Mad Max/Post Apocalyptic look.

  • @josefsalon4449
    @josefsalon4449 4 роки тому

    Thanx!!!

  • @pemjoe
    @pemjoe 4 роки тому

    I really hope you pick this one up Ian. The whole time I was watching this I was thinking "wow what a cool gun I love stuff like this" I want to see it at the range.

    • @russcole5685
      @russcole5685 4 роки тому

      I looked very light to me bet I kicks like a mule at 7.62 I'd also like to see an operating one on the range to satisfy my curiosity

    • @blob22201
      @blob22201 4 роки тому

      It's deactivated so sadly it'll probably never go on a range again

  • @stefanristic8180
    @stefanristic8180 4 роки тому +1

    Scarce Vietnamese submachine gun. Isn't this a sweet treat. Thanks Ian!

  • @rcbif101
    @rcbif101 4 роки тому +7

    6:17 - not sure how those welds are holding the barrel in. It should be the larger reciever pivot pin that retains the barrel which looks untouched by weld.

    • @RichieRichOverdrive
      @RichieRichOverdrive 4 роки тому +1

      Regardless, a little bit of grinding would take those right off....

    • @ryanking5262
      @ryanking5262 4 роки тому +2

      @@RichieRichOverdrive The real question is could one possibly salvage the barrel and reactivate this little bad girl?

    • @webtoedman
      @webtoedman 4 роки тому +2

      @@ryanking5262 Nothing is impossible. Finding the correct barrel would be very,very difficult, but a good machinist could probably chamber and profile a blank to suit. Not that I'm suggesting that.

    • @rcbif101
      @rcbif101 4 роки тому +3

      @@RichieRichOverdrive ya, it could be nearly fully restored with a dremel. I think one of two things are at play here.
      1. A rube deactivated this and thought the whole trunnion needed removed to remove the barrel
      2. Fake barrel retention welds to be purposefully deceitful for an easy reactivation.

    • @rcbif101
      @rcbif101 4 роки тому +1

      @@webtoedman it's the same barrel as a common ppsh, but with a front sight post pressed and pinned. If the weld is only in the chamber, it would be an easy drill and rechamber job.

  • @azypk
    @azypk 4 роки тому

    I always wanted to know more about this machine gun. Not that much informations are avalable on the internet

  • @Taistelukalkkuna
    @Taistelukalkkuna 4 роки тому +1

    Really cool to finally see this gun live. Next on the wish list would be 7.62 Tokarev conversion of Mat-49. If they were a real thing that is?

  • @yourenotperfect.9493
    @yourenotperfect.9493 2 роки тому +1

    These old, crudely modified guns are way more interesting to me than the fucking samey polymer ARs with fuckin laser sights and scopes and shit

  • @Vojawashere
    @Vojawashere 4 роки тому +22

    i am lorax,i speak for the trees
    *the trees are speaking vietnamese*

    • @billping6712
      @billping6712 4 роки тому +1

      player 5.56 best comment I have seen all week...

    • @Vojawashere
      @Vojawashere 4 роки тому

      @@billping6712 thank you

  • @nartho6588
    @nartho6588 4 роки тому +2

    Ahh yes, the good old morning gun video. Nothing can compare to firearms and breakfast

  • @madhukarmukane2090
    @madhukarmukane2090 4 роки тому +2

    I like your sweater Ian, and may be after 50 it will sold in Rock Island Auction company as gun jeesus jacket 😁😁

  • @darthlegoman2608
    @darthlegoman2608 3 роки тому

    PPSH: receiver
    AKM: grip
    Grease Gun: stock
    Looks like fancy Khyber pass stuff.

  • @420JimmyX
    @420JimmyX 4 роки тому +1

    oh boy this takes me back 10 years to Battlefield Vietnam and the Arsenal Mod

  • @christopherlambert7814
    @christopherlambert7814 3 роки тому

    One of the coolest sub guns ever

  • @trey85031
    @trey85031 4 роки тому

    that thing is bad ass and shoots a great round

  • @vicmars6655
    @vicmars6655 4 роки тому +2

    Been hoping for to this smg for a while. 😀

  • @itsconnorstime
    @itsconnorstime 4 роки тому +1

    That is a gorgeous jumper Ian, where can I get one?

  • @WarDogMadness
    @WarDogMadness 4 роки тому +1

    that's some nice herringbone weave on your shoulder patches is it cold where you are ian. more interesting soviet stuff .

  • @michaelmaggi8252
    @michaelmaggi8252 2 роки тому

    anyone know where Ian got that hoodie/sweater combo? That thing looks rad

  • @NoneCitizen
    @NoneCitizen 4 роки тому

    Looks like it got some modified parts from ppsh41, upper for sure, mag well etc, gotta watch when i have few mins...

  • @t.hieuv.8062
    @t.hieuv.8062 4 роки тому +2

    Lmao just wait until Ian sees a Vietnamese-made M1 Bazooka.

  • @VolantFool
    @VolantFool 4 роки тому +1

    Dead Frontier players will always remember this gun

  • @bhimatamaindrana6104
    @bhimatamaindrana6104 4 роки тому +17

    Brandon Herrera gonna see this as cursed gun images

    • @1r0zz
      @1r0zz 4 роки тому +3

      It's ugly but not cursed...

    • @ScottKenny1978
      @ScottKenny1978 4 роки тому +2

      @@1r0zz it's been deactivated. That's cursed in my book!

  • @michaelholloway8
    @michaelholloway8 3 роки тому

    Seems like an lot if trouble. Did they not get the woody bits for that shipment? Or was it all to get a folding stock?

  • @Codename5A3
    @Codename5A3 4 роки тому

    I saw one of these at the October 2019 Knob Creek shoot/show, it was a transferable machine gun and had already sold for $25,000!

    • @ronmiller1578
      @ronmiller1578 3 роки тому

      Are you looking for one?

    • @Codename5A3
      @Codename5A3 3 роки тому

      @@ronmiller1578 I would love to have one, I could never afford it unless the MG market collapsed though

  • @itsconnorstime
    @itsconnorstime 4 роки тому +3

    I've never clocked that those are AK grips.

  • @larrythorn4715
    @larrythorn4715 4 роки тому +1

    I feel like I saw this episode before, and same with the USMC M45 one...but it says they're new uploads?

  • @donbow450
    @donbow450 4 роки тому +1

    Interesting, how it changes the whole apperance of the gun. I wonder why they changed it. I could think of:
    - Better maneuverability in tight spaces
    - Front for weight reduction (while the new lower might be hevier as the wooden stock?)
    - Because it looks rad

    • @Tetsulot
      @Tetsulot 3 місяці тому

      i know it late, but if you still want to know. the K50 was modified so that it can easily hide in civilians' home and urban safe house.

  • @charles_wipman
    @charles_wipman 4 роки тому +7

    I saw it on one of the Vietnam war books that i have, i always that was some kind of weird old french SMG; nice to know now.

  • @randywatson8347
    @randywatson8347 4 роки тому

    Looks pretty decent and comfy to use

  • @BeingFireRetardant
    @BeingFireRetardant 4 роки тому

    Favorite gun in Mercenaries 1 and 2.
    Looks fairly crude, but highly effective...

  • @charlesjhemphilliii4792
    @charlesjhemphilliii4792 4 роки тому +3

    When I lived in Thailand they were thicker than fleas on a cat.
    I would use a fine rasp so drums would fit.

  • @ethankelly7594
    @ethankelly7594 4 роки тому

    I love your videos but i feel like you should show us an example of the round these guns shoot

  • @ianthomas7139
    @ianthomas7139 4 роки тому +1

    This looks like the SMG Tintin uses in Flight 714. I’ve always wondered what Herge used as a template.

  • @konstantinavilov1192
    @konstantinavilov1192 4 роки тому

    Ian, finally you've started to pronounce "PP(Sh)" more or less properly! 😊 So I am curious when you will return to the correct semi-German pronunciation of Sturmgewehr as "(Sh)turmgewehr", not "(S)turmgewehr"... (Interestingly, in your early videos, you pronounced this correctly but later converted to the americanized variant).
    P.S. BTW, is the Sturmgewehr reproduction project by Hill&Mac stone dead? I really liked your series of enginerding videos on it on the InRangeTV.

  • @HECKproductions
    @HECKproductions 4 роки тому +1

    looks like an mp38 and a stgw44 had a baby

  • @victorrain
    @victorrain 3 роки тому

    “Sugar is shit, though. I told General Abrams to install honey in the commissaries. If the K50s didn’t blow your brains out, sugar sure as shit was gonna.” Lt. Col. Frank Slade, U.S. Army, retired.

  • @theodoreroosevelt3143
    @theodoreroosevelt3143 4 роки тому +2

    i see this gun and my brain shouts "G.I. go home!"

  • @user-hk1cv7vp3z
    @user-hk1cv7vp3z 4 роки тому

    Like 3 days ago, i thought to myself that Ian hasn´t made a video about the K-50M smg yet. And now it came out.
    Ian, are reading my mind?