Motorcycle Slow control tips for module 1
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- A big part of Mod 1 of the uk motorcycle licence test is slow control, figure of eight, slalom and the dreaded by many turn in the road aka U turn. Here are some tips and little games to do to help you develop those skills!
If you fancy taking up the spicy slow control challenge got for it! But seriously you damage your bike it's on you 100%
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Messed up my CBT through poor clutch control on Saturday...found this video watched about 20 times, great straight forward information delivered with humor and the positive affirmation of " you passed !" Also helped at lot , anyway went back yesterday and sailed through in part thanks to this video....cheers Spicy 👌
Awesome!! Congrats! 🙂
@@spicy110 Cheers...👍🏼
CBT is training. Nobody can fail that.You get the certificate to confirm you attended. Not what skills you have. If you were were not issued your certificate for attending a full days training, you were scammed. Only reason they can refuse to issue certificate would be if you were a danger or were not legally allowed to ride. no license or banned, if using own bike not legal because of tax, mot or insurance.
PLEASE reveal the training school you attended /scammed by. TRAINING IS NOT A TEST.
@@spicy110 really? CBT is not a test. it's training. If somebody should declare "i failed my CBT" you should check if they were scammed. it seems quite prevalent that new riders believe they can fail. theres o test. theres questions, but if they answer wrong, they should be trained in the answer. they can't fail. there should be no re-dos or extra fees. Help keep scams away. Bi-annual CBT "RENEWAL" itself is already a scam.
@@Palmit_ CBT is not an attendance course. After instruction/coaching/mentoring by the trainer, the trainee has to demonstrate a level of competence. They cannot move on until they do. If they need to come back to complete then additional charges may apply, there isn't a fixed fee.
Why aren't you a motorcycle instructor?
That's one of the clearest explanation of how you do that I've seen.
When i learnt we went to do U-turns first, all failed miserably, then he took us back and got us to do figure 8 riding till we were doing really tight ones, then we all went and aced the U-turns.
Great vid, keep up the good work!
:)
+viscarrio I need my licence 3yrs min and only had it 2
spicy110 a better instructor then the one I had today!... Rushed through was an understatement and having to redo my CBT.
spicy110 you would be a great instructor, not overly serious as most of them are
spicy110 time now then 😃
@@midenking9651 sorry you had that.
I am curious. What reason did you need to redo cbt?
You're so genuine. Keep up the hard work bro.
Really helpful video mate and congrats on 60K subs!
Thanks Jacob
I don't think I've ever seen Spicy do a wheelie.
If he does wheelies he probably does them off public roads. Spicy has always been sensible, which isn't a bad thing in the slightest - I for one respect him more.
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@@tango9917 Thanks. Needed that crucial information, no wonder I couldn't sleep at night.
@@Interknetz cry a river
@@tango9917 You must've been abandoned as a baby 🤣🤣
Great and very educational video.What I would like to add is that keeping higher revs on a half of clutch will make you more stable due to gyroscopic effect that the engine gives you. At normal speeds this comes mainly from the wheels, but in slow moving traffic it got to come from the engine.
How the hell did I miss this video a few days ago!? Just failed my A licence today cause of the figure 8. I can do the counterclockwise turn no problem, but clockwise is bugging me a lot. Watched a ton of videos and this one certainly has most usable and clear information and suggestions. Well, 3-4 weeks I can try again, too bad I cannot practice too much before then.
I passed my bike test over a year ago but this video would of been really helpful at the time but I am pleased this video is available to help newbie bikers pass,. good job
Another amazingly helpful video. Thanks for taking the time for that
WTF!!!! I've been nervous about my mod 1 and the slow control stuff, now this has actually filled me with confidence!! So well explained, thank you and subscribed!!!
With a 600cc enduro from the 80's....
Damn, that is a challenge :O
I feel a career change coming up...
+Alec Clancy-Taylor can't as I need my licence 3 years and I have just only had it 2
@@spicy110 So it's been 3 years now... still not gonna go for it?
@@Bahle_Gaji its a thought but it's not something that draws me in as a job. Mainly i don't know if i have the patience of people who think they know better. If some one was struggling i would give them all day but cocky I would have a hard time with haha
can u do it on divi? challange
Im struggling with my bike. Im brand new to biking. I need help and tips or proper braking and taking off again.
Then my how to ride a motorcycle video will help more than this.
I was told by my instructor to stop looking at the cones when doing the figure of eight because you loose all special awareness
Ugh I'll have to do all of this again for the A category. In the school I was with the 125s were from like the 80s no electric start, the clutch felt like on or off switch and you had to rev the shit out of it to do anything so slow control was hell. On the big bikes slow control was a piece of cake.
Thanks man. Your techniques helps me alot in the final exam. Even today at 2020!
Do you mean we should slightly press rear brake all the time while going on slow speed ?
In a tight manoeuvre it helps keep your speed in control but you don't want to be riding the rear brake anytime time you're going slow.
great video Mr Spicy!
Got my CBT booked, no previous experience whatsoever on bike riding, if i pass, is it possible to get the A license within 2 years and how much practice is required?.
I'm in love with your video's, very easy to follow and understand for noobs (like myself), can't wait to do my CBT and ride off on my new bike if all goes well xD
I'm actually saving for an upgrade in license, just watching this makes me nervous
Don't worry you will be able to do it. Can you ride a bicycle?
@@spicy110 I can ride a bicycle lol
Iv not passed my bike test but i have done 3 CBTs onces you have been riding for sometime its second nature . One more thing is not to over think it just concentrate on the job in hand
Over thinking something could make you fail
Also like spicy said practice practice as much as you can
And remember what your goal is. Not much of a tip but i hope it helps
Had my first bike lesson last Sunday. Dropped the bike within the first 5 minutes. It was great! XD
What bike are you using?
Suzuki DRZ400SM converted to a 440cc.
Super helpful video - I just finished my first class in Singapore and your instructions helped me understand better the WHY (not just the ‘what’) of things we learnt. 🙏🏻
Literally needed this! I've been on a scooter for 7 years now and last week I finally had a go on a 125 Kawasaki Eliminator that I'm buying and I stalled a LOT! I knew switching from twist and go to gears would be a challenge, but your videos have helped so much, and that's not just the educational ones like these! You're an inspiration spicy! I'm buying the bike tomorrow! Thanks again!
First time is not simple eveeyone but it wont take long to learn you will pass your cbt dont worry if u need go back for 1 more day
Great video, really makes sense, I've failed twice on the 'U' turn gonna try again now, thanks
ok after all that hard work , how many of them blocks can you jump ? , :) Joking aside , Great Vid .
Been watching your vids for a while , just picked up my CBT today. Thanks for all you properly informative content.
wish u could teach me. My instructor was bad, failed cbt twice.... 😢 Also the throttle seemed soooooo sensitive where i did it. Not sure if they supplied dodgy bike
Hard luck, where are you based? I've done a few cbts across the country so probably could recommend a good un near you
@@hazzalandy thanks mate but I passed my CBT now somewhere else. Currently doing my DAS training, and so far its going really well :)
@@everythinggaming7938 Eyy congrats!
@@hazzalandy thanks mate!
Got my mod 1 this coming Monday eeeeeeeek!
Good luck bud, got mine at the end of July, seems such a long time to wait :( Try and stay as calm as possible and do what you have been on practice, you can do it :)
There's gonna be a few repeated "fuck" moments, then I'll nail it and make the bike dance
Great tips, thanks a lot! I'm currently doing my motorcycle license and failed my first exam because of exactly what you described. Panicked during the figure 8 and put my foot down. Ironically, when I was practicing this the day before, I did it at least 20 times without error. I guess my nerves made me stupid.
Yeah, my nerves got me too when i went for my CBT, but thankfully my main issue was balance, and i think i got it back, let's hope it is sunny this round for my CBT XD
how was you not tempted by that diy ramp??
who needs a CBT instructor when you've got Spicy110? ;)
+Desantos123 UK my instructor wants to to become one but I can't for another year yet
By next year you could be the new RoadcraftNottingham! I watched loads of his videos before I started my full bike license training.
Good tips, mod 1 coming soon.. 👍🏴
slow racing is really funny to watch, it seems to be quite popular in india
I'd think you'd agree, MOD 1 is harder. I still struggle with the u turns and figure of 8's (sometimes putting a foot down) and the test is tomorrow
100% mod 2 is just riding on the road. That's why you have to practice this stuff
How much carry over would this have from a 125 to a big bike? I'm riding an XVS 125 cruiser but I'll be doing my Mod1 on an SV650, I'm guessing that good practice on the cruiser will be worth it? (Mainly because it's a cruiser and a total slag to turn at slow speed)
It will be tougher on a cruiser than other 125's so do what you can on it, I've heard the bigger bikes are much easier than 125's in general too and you will get plenty of time to get used to the SV650 then practice for Mod1.
Very nice instructions, but I don’t think you have to indicate when doing u turns.
Possibly one of the most helpful vids I have seen. Thanks Spicy.
Happy to hear it 😁
As someone who wants to get into riding thanks for the tips. Subbed 👍
As well as using the clutch and throttle to meter power in slow tight turns, another technique that works well is to drag the rear brake against the throttle. This helps keep the bike upright. It might be a bit much for a first timer to get all three down, but it is very helpful, especially with heavier bikes.
As stated in the video.
Huh, I must have missed that part. Doh!
Great video. How does this relate to the change off cc from 125 to 650 for the UK tests?? 650 sounds like a monster!! 😜
It's easier as the engine need not be working so hard and the clutches tend to have more control to them.
...slow racing, love it!
+Ant Laud it's more fun! Risk of crashing is high risk of injury is low haha
Edit: I have a question about the Mod1... When you're doing something like the U turn, does it matter how long you take? Can you just go as slow and steady as you want, or is there like a time limit? Stupid question, I know. I want to do my A2 soon, but I fear that the bike will just be too heavy for me to handle properly.
I got so paranoid of involuntarily grabbing a fistful of front brake from my first 'crash' (it was at 10mph, completely my fault and no one else was involved) that my "panic" brake is now my rear. Arguably, this isn't even any better.
As for slow control, I'm not exactly great at it, so I'll definitely go find a nice empty car park and just "slow race" from one side to the other, and then see how slow I can do a turn (and how tight I can get the turn). I've never went full lock when turning at slow speed, as I always felt that if I needed to turn more, I can't and will just fall off. I guess it just comes with experience.
What a wonderful video, nice explanations. nice demonstrations. Awesome resource for new riders like me.
Glad it was helpful! Check out the rest of my tips for new riders playlist.
turning radius from a sportier bike fucks one over on this one
the biggest issue is schools not having large cc auto bikes for tests need auto bike
what are your thoughts on having to redo the mod.1 and 2 when going from a restricted A2 to full unrestricted licence? After riding non stop in all weathers for over 2 years I honestly do not see the point in having to redo the mod 1 and in some cases (depending on what bike and how it was restricted) redoing the mod 2....
Howell Krampf
yeah and then what if you fail either of the tests because you are nervous or maybe even tired but usually ride perfectly fine. Someone's riding ability and safety awareness should be judged over a whole day or at least 2 or 3 hours not 2 short tests in which you could make an uncharacteristic error
i passed my mod1 yesterday and now I've gotta wait till the 16th June to do mod2😥😥😥😥😥
+Jake Munton woop woop and good things come to those who wait but man it is gonna be a killer 😀
Jake Munton Congrats! Mine's another month away. I feel your pain
Pretty Kitty yes it's horrible I booked my A2 course like 2 months before I was 19 wait was crap lol.
Don't worry bud, the Mod2 is just a stricter CBT, you will be fine. Just remember your shoulder/ mirror checks and signals. Good luck!
So, did you pass it?!
Thanks for the video
Whilst a few years old now the information is really Informative
Just started my journey last week
This video is from my playlist tips for new riders, it's all still relevant.
I passed first time on a Duke 696 Monster and it was a bag of shit
I challenge you to do this on a liter bike with ridiculously limited handlebar turn with full respect to your skill and knowledge. Hope no offence meant. The back brake does not slow you down on these race bikes
I have done it with every type of bike you can think of from 50cc ped to sports bikes, adventure bikes, huge bikes like the BMW R18, petrol and electric. The videos are all there. It's just part of my testing. I think you want to see this on a super sport as you mentioned hands into the tank, in my next bike review I do just that.
@ spicy110 just doing less than a hour training for mod1 and been told to take my test tomorrow and been told I will pass. What could I fail on I'm worried about the u turn about looking st the lines and out of habit. And the avoidance about doing the correct speed kept getting told not to look at the speedo because he will ask me to do emergency stop
Nathan Stephen you're lucky to find a place that will let you do a lesson, most places where i live only seem to do a full length 5 day course, but are you doing your A1 licence or DAS ?
ive been riding on a cbt since march now, i reckon i could pass without any lessons. do you think thats reasonable?
Just what I needed since I Started earlier this year, I always I stall then I tried doing the same thing what you did before watching this. This upcoming weekend I'm gonna ask the instructors to use their Dual Sport. Thanks Spicy. Support from 'Murica! 👊🏽
Keep practising using these tips but now failed three MOD1 tests on the bounce due to putting my foot down (going to slow). First fail U turn, second fail figure of 8 and the last was at the end of the slalom. In training I can do everything perfectly yet come to my test and everything goes to pot. Got a shiny new CBR500R in the garage that I still can’t ride. Any tips for coping with test day nerves? Each time I feel like I’m getting worse due to being so desperate to pass. My next test is coming up soon and now I’m worried that I’ll even screw the manual handling up!
Incredibly useful.
I have viewed many YT vid's on Mod 1 U-Turns & slow speed control . This video is superb.
Some instructors possibly less keen than others to train such techniques for Mod etc.
The techniques shown here, (plus counter balancing), arguably preferable when used safely & well.
Thank you.
(DAS soon here).
What are your slow speed challenge rules? Doing slow speed maneuvers is one of the most fun ways to spend time on a bike and feel like your getting real benefit from it. It costs almost nothing and will probably result in the least amount of rider errors that end up with a bike on the deck.
+Brett Wendel no rules just show what you can do, tho the full lock circles are the tricky ones
For the people outside your country What is a mod 1? I have just started doing this with a Harley Davidson Sporstser with cones the course is inside and oblong the I do figure 8s circles and the long side clutch feathering and all the exercises are under 15 km. Incredible motorcycle dexterity. Incredible video very easy to follow. Congratulations and thank you.
I'm only one class away from the A-class driving exam and I still struggle a tad with the figure 8.
I seem to do great on left-side turning but when I have to switch around to the right side I almost fell like my body says it's not going to happen.
Today I've done more than half of them properly.
I wish I could drive a bike outside driving school to practice it into perfection, but regulations in my country (Portugal) do not allow non-licensed riders on the road outside the scope of a driving class or exam, even if they have a diving student certificate.
Some subtle changes allowing driving students to practice on specific times/places should exist in order to breed better prepared and more competent beginner riders.
What's your thought on this?
Thanks for the video Spicy110. When do you recommend somebody takes their Mod1? I've only riding for a couple of weeks on a 125, and I'm finding I'm picking things up very quickly. I'm cautiously confident that I could pass already. Also, does it make much of a difference on a bigger bike, as up until now 125 is the highest I've ridden. Thanks :)
Watching this gives me that warm fuzzy feeling inside that I had before I took my CBT having never ridden before. The excitement of what’s possible ... unfortunately I’d fallen out of riding and my CBT expired on Saturday but I’m getting paid tonight and I’m gonna book my theory at lunch tonight then my second CBT tomorrow morning and hopefully I’ll get myself my A2 in no time absolutely buzzing
Congratulations on 60k Spicy!
+JBL thanks 😁
Using the rear brake and the clutch makes it much more smooth and controlled when slow riding and turn in the road. When ever I tried it with just the clutch it wasnt as easy, when ever my instructor told me to use the rear brake on the turn in the road it was so much easier :) Also we was told sometimes they get you to do a turn in the road on the right hand side of the road just to test you. And the mod 1 was HUGE it was in a massive dedicated tennis court kinda thing. We practiced a lot tighter and when it come to the mod 1 I felt like I had SO much room. On my mod 1 I actually went too fast on the section where you got to get up to 30MPH because I was worried I wouldnt go fast enough, but because I showed I could stop well within the zone, I got off with it because it wasnt stupid fast, just a little faster than they wanted haha. Also a thing to help calm down was my friends who I was training with, chatting over the stuff with the instructor, and the fact that instructors are all bikers, they want you to pass they arent out there to get you. That and you have tonnes of room, And mod 2 is just a nice little ride out :)
GREAT VIDEO. Slow control is a HUGE part of riding. To me is easy to go on the high way and do 140-160MPH but it was the slow driving that really test my skills. PRO TIP: *** when doing this exercises make sure to ride normal or rest the clutch for a bit since slow riding put lots of pressure/wear into it.***
What your doing is finding and staying around the 'bite point' of the clutch... I understand its a tips video... but be mindful not to get into a habit of slipping the clutch too much. If you learn the bite point of the bike, you will learn the 'feel'. Good tip with back brake... you don't want to 'chase' the thing.. just maintain a steady drive the rear wheel (as you say clutch, throttle, and brake).
The other items I'd add in are forward vision and accelerations sense. In a real word situation... good forward observation helps give you processing time (to work out what you do and what how)... that in turn doesn't create a panic (or limits it) which allows more head space and time... to slow down gently and not have to be in a situation where your stopping often... which leads to your game of slow riding.
Godamn but my bike isn't made for this. Still...everyone likes a challenge =) Nice vid, most helpful to new riders, I think you've found your career move.
Cheers Spicy I'll be trying these, I already do the balancing at the lights sometimes. But never thought about the riding circles that get smaller ect. The only worry I have is going from being able to control the weight of a 125 to 500-650cc bike,when in motion I've been told you don't notice it but the low speed stuff worries me that I'll end up not being strong enough and dropping it.
Using the clutch prevents the stall. Can you try something more difficult? Shifting to gear 2 and then not touching the clutch within a short 1.5m distance and doing a sharp 90 degree turn into a crank course?
Do these tips help if you’re going from a 125 to doing the A license mod 1? Due to weight, turning circle and power etc sorry if I sound dumb 😂
The fundamentals are the same yes, if you want my video called "Spicy's slow control challenge" I do it on a different bike with a different type of engine. Best of luck 🙂👍
spicy110 Ah I see :) I’m guessing it’s different amount of lean and counter balance etc? Oh nice :) I’ll take a look lol thanks man 😊
Got my mod one on Monday. Shitting myself to be honest. The U turn was my most feared manouvre but the actual space you get is huge. The only thing I struggled with was the figure 8 but hopefully looking at the cones for the pivot point will help.
I did my cbt yesterday! I wasn't too good at the slow control part of my CBT although I was given my certificate this has definitely helped me with controlling my bike at slower speed. Mainly so I don't take junctions too wide!
Useful info. Did my CBT on a 125 2 weeks ago and I have my Mod 1 in 2 weeks with just 2 days riding on a 650 in between
The game element is worth a go, I keep going out into roads on the way back from work to try u turns but never get it and they've just got worse. It clicked watching this, I'm basically teaching myself u turns are difficult when I should spend a few hours on my day off after a nights rest and play make the circle, figure 8 smaller
Good video I'm also up for your challenge MRShifters is my UA-cam it will be up there soon 😁😂
Excellent timing! It's almost like you knew I just failed my MSF course because I was having issues with this very thing lol! Thanks Spicy!
The first time I rode a bike a while back i didn't stall at all much to my suprise! Was only a 125 though!
I have my Mod 1 next friday but sadly i can't really practice doing uturns on an r125, takes an airfield to turn that bugger around :P
been sub for years now in and out but want to say a massive thank you this helped me so much i passed my mod 1 with your help keep at it mush much love from the north
No problem 👍
great video mate, the clutch segment was probably one of the best i've seen... i also enjoyed your game training too.
a few times every season i go to my fav parking lot and dick around with slow speed maneuvers for an hour or so, it relaxes me :}
one thing i would add to slow speed turning is that the body position on the bike can help a lot. counterbalancing the bike's lean with the body's weight can make the turning radius even smaller..
be safe, have fun!
Ha ha ha ha caught me off guard the bye bye.
Is mod 1 your A1 test shit...I hate our UK system hahaha
Michael Gallagher mod 1 and 2 exist in A, A1, and A2 haha
Sam James so what the fuck is mod1? slow speed shit? Mod 2 road use?
Michael Gallagher yeah I think so, one of them is car park manoeuvres such as emergency braking and figure 8 and then the other one is a road test
Mod 1 is to show you can safely avoid stuff and do maneuvers without having to put you in real danger. So you can do an emergency stop in a closed course.
Not being funny but how can you hate our system if you don't even know what it is?
I did the swerve when i was meant to do the emergency stop, only got a minor because I didn't do a proper shoulder check after I'd stopped and he explained it to me. It's honestly pretty easy. Sadly, my head gasket blew yesterday so my lexmoto xtrs won't go above 40 now, so i need to sort that out before I can take my mod 2 to get my full A1 license. What's the point? pillions. Lot of money but frankly, I just wanna get rid of the L plates. Drivers treat you like dirt when you have them.
Matt McAlister keep ur head up and a new gasket should be around £10-£15
it's not the expense, just the hastle really. I use the bike daily so I need to get it running properly asap
He sounds like Derran brown
I was practising in my garden before my CBT I learnt slow control pretty quick
Really helpful video mate , I shall be practicing as I’ve got mod1 and mod2 in January :)
Great video mate, what bike is this?
thanks a lot sir... finally got one best way to practice my slow bike control as i am the worst at it as most of the time i end up switching off the engine.... that's very helpful
You explained and demonstrated that really well for new riders. So important to grasp and master. But even for experienced riders, practising those slow maneuvers is not only beneficial but fun if you make it a competition, i.e. the slow race, etc. Cheers :-)
Thanks dude glad you liked it!
Thank you. Good work. Great explanation. Can you explain how to zig zag slow and close or refer me some where?
Pls. Thx
Biggest tip is Squeezing the gas tank with ur knees, helps tremendously with slow speed maneuvering
That can help new riders indeed, the issue comes when you have to do a proper shoulder check.
@@spicy110 definitely agree! But squeezing allows more stability so ur arms can be more loose you won’t be so tight or be sliding around the seat so it allows more control even for the experienced. a tip u can’t pass up
Really good video, but since the town I live in is on the side of a mountain, and all the roads are sloped at 45° angles, I seem to have a rather difficult time with my slow circles, any advise?
The way I was taught from my cbt instructor is the bike has a wet clutch so the revs dont matter you could be revving super high as long as you let the clutch out smoothly and slowly so that's how I learnt, my problem is slow control i eventually sorted it out but instructor said it wasnt perfect even tho I could do it decently then said book another appointment to practice more on slow control it pissed me off
Spicy 110 ? On a scale of how much?😁😁