Soundproof Your Basement From Impact Noise
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Thanks for the great video I just bought a house new from dr Horton and what a waste of money. I hear every piss and and every flush. No noise reduction at all. Boy the amount of money I need to throw to sound proof the all the rooms. I wish your team was here is VA
I can't wait to see the Home Theater soundproofing video. I'm currently DIY'ing a 500 sq foot theater in the basement of my new home and I think that will be a video I learn a lot from.
I just finished my second soundproofed theater. It's a doozy, but it works quite well - at least with frequencies above 300Hz. If you have serious subwooferage it will reduce the bass energy significantly, but it won't get rid of it.
I used killmatt (like dynomatt) on the abs pipes, helps a lot, then safe and sound. Massive difference. On the hvac as well.
I gotta admit. I used pink insulation for sound transfer in my previous house I built and the mineral wool in the new house I just built. I can definitely tell a difference with sound transfer. Old house the pink insulation did not seem to help and I always felt like I wasted money doing that. With the new house I really have a hard time hearing noises from different rooms and it seems to do a way better job. Maybe it's just me or my hearing is going bad with age LOL. Love your videos still.
will 100% agree with you on this. mineral wool is WAY better for sound control and can't believe all the people actually thinking fiberglass does much for sound transfer especially on interior wall cavities. I've installed lot of rockwool and with it's sponge-fit and more dense characteristics it significantly reduces sound travel through walls. Installed throughout my new home and its well worth the investment!
Jeff is my go to Reno guy, he’s the only one I trust to give me the answers I need . Great video jeff as always
Cheers!
please do a video on soundproofing an hvac duct/vent
You always make super great how-to videos. We really appreciate you and your work. Very comprehensive and easy to understand.
Cheers Happy to help!
Thank you! Building my own house and love your practical, real-world approach.
This man's knowledge is astounding. Jeff, another great one!
Cheers!
I am finishing a basement bedroom for a loud teenager below a primary bedroom. I don't want to throw money away in wool insulation. Not looking for a perfect solution but improving the sound transfer. Your system will work great for me. Thanks for all the advice Jeff. 🙏
Doing the same thing!
I renovated an entire house with your videos, you are AWESOME!
Awesome video! But literally a day late! Just dry walled an office to work from home. I drywalled and insulated with sound comfort insulation. Also removing furnace vents and using baseboard heating in the two rooms.
Heads up on your respirator filters. You have Organic vapor filters installed instead of particulate. Black/OV = Organic vapors and Magenta/P100 = particulates. essentially you are breathing through activated charcoal in this video which will not stop the small fibers you are worried about. You should probably get combination filters(ov/p100) for your type of work.
Cheers However This insul releases such a small amount of fibers I didn't think it was necessary top change out the filter.
I didn't know the vapor only existed. Always have seen the vapor paired with P100.
EDIT : P100 only or even n95 would suffice. No need to get vapor in this situation.
@@Antonetidm Vapor only is great when you dont need the particulate. Its so much easier to breath through. You are not fighting the paper filter.
@@jsust thanks and must be cheaper too. Will ask boss to buy some hehe
Thanks for the info. Good to know for the future.
I love the last comment about the waste water pipe.
Our house was built in 2018, and we didn’t realise when we bought it as a quick possession that the internal walls did not have insulation, unlike in the United Kingdom.
Whenever we are in our open plan, living room, dining room, kitchen, and either of the toilets flush, you can just hear everything.
I am sometimes tempted to rip the wall out and re-insulate it.
I soundproofed an office room like that but only used 1/2" drywall for the walls. For the ceiling I went with Sonopan and placed two layers of R20 between the joists. t didn't want to drywall the ceiling and used a suspended ceiling. Technically, if I need access to the ceiling it is less complicated and work to cut / remove sonopan with a suspended ceiling than it is with drywall. Anyway, the end result is amazing. I get very good soundproofing, so much so that I can't even hear when someone rings the door bell anymore.
that stuff really works like a charm. Cheers!
Thanks Jeff great practical advice!
I need to finish a basement... so excited for this series!!!
Cheers, gonna be a dandy !
I got a basement reno in my future. This is very useful info! Thank you for what you do!
I am sure you will enjoy this series. Cheers!
This was very insightful. What I would like to know is what can be done to better insulate top floor bedrooms from noise coming from outside? For example, highway noise, or trains. I know that I can use some of these tricks and that better windows should be considered, but a video on this topic would be great. It seems like most videos on this subject have to do with basements for some reason. Thanks again for the great videos!
Thanks! It'll be great if you can make some videos on making a mini pond in the yard or adding insulation between garage ceiling and bonus room floor.
I love your content and your honesty! It's your budget, do what you want! I need to search your content for finishing a basement... specifically vapor barriers and wall insulation
I did a basement wall assembly video not too long ago. check this out for a great assembly plus s subfloor. ua-cam.com/video/M3jwVa7MiEQ/v-deo.html
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY thank you
2:26 2:51 Fluffy insulation doesn't really add an appreciable amount of mass. That's what drywall is for. The pink stuff's stuff's purpose-from an acoustics standpoint-is to convert sound pressure to heat as it passes through your wall cavity, and to dampen the resonances that might build up between the wall panels.
I'm redoing my kitchen putting a new cabinets can't find studs anywhere where they should be any suggestions. Thanks for all the tips And tricks
and Jeff Empire rises again. thanks for a great vid reminding me of basement 101 stuff you been making for years on the channel.
Really looking forward to this entire basement series. Cheers! it should be a lot of help!
Great video!
Great video as always!! Quick question. Working on finishing my basement and wondering if a side is preferred for the Sonopan on walls. On ceiling, is strapping enough before installing sonopan. Should resilient channels be used? Thank you.
Never seen or heard of the Saunapan panel! This will be huge for my upstairs remodel as I live in a cape style home off of a busy interstate. Luckily I live about 20 minutes from the US/Canada border as well so if it's readily available there I can easily go pick some up! 😁 Always great content Jeff!
Sonopan* gonna save you some headaches trying to find it!
@@rolfbjorn9937 And a big ol' thank you to you also!
Hey brotha would u mind picking me up some I need 36 panels I’ll pay u 500$ for them I need 36 I can pay u cash before hand
Hi Jeff, would you recommend using Sonopanx for flooring applications i.e. is it effective at removing impact noise?
Hey would you put sonopan on the ceiling as well? If so, how?
the subtle sarcasm was great lol.
Cheers!
Hey Jeff, thanks for the videos; I have loved them one by one since the time of the pandemic. I recently bought a 2005 townhouse in Montreal. I will use what I have learned from you.
Cheers
@homeRenoVisionDIY
I came across your soundproofing videos as I start to plan building a drum room in my basement. I'm curious which of your soundproofing videos would you recommend most for that application?
cant wait for the Home Theater video!! Also curious what materials people are using in Europe.
So.... About 2 months ago, I paid to have a room remodeled and it was too have soundproofing. They didn't do it right. I so wroth you had this video out then because I would have insisted that we get the green board stuff you pointed out the "eats sound". There are 2 of the walls I may just strip down again and have redone using your technique.
They used a Styrofoam board for insulation and said it was great for soundproofing too. Well that is just not at all true.
Keep up the great work. I appreciate your honesty, integrity and knowledge 👏🏽
rigid foam helps a little. the trick with soundproofing is being able to communicate and manage expectations. A very tricky business for sure.
This video is great and very helpful. I have a question and hope you can help me. I am trying to use Fiberglas batts for sound management for my basement ceiling. There are some joists go across the playroom into mechanical room and some Fiberglas batts inserted between joists will be exposed on the ceiling of the mechanical room. Is there anything I can do to cover those exposed Fiberglas in the mechanical room? I am little worried about inhaling figerglas particles, but it’s difficult to cover them as there are pipes and vents on the ceiling.
Hi Jeff,
Would you not rather use resilient channel vs strapping in a basement? Could you explain the difference given you’re discussing soundproofing ?
Can the Sonopan be installed in between the 2 layers of drywall? I’d prefer to not rip out my existing drywall, but I’m not sure how effective just adding layers on top of what’s already there will even help.
I should in North Carolina if I'm ready to insulate it do I use faced or unfaced installation? Thank you once again
We feed the birds AND the squirrels, but it seems like the squirrels love the birdseed more than anything lol😂 🐿. Great video, thanks for sharing.
Is there an alternative to Sonopan that's widely available in the US? I see search results for Steico. Is that right?
Sonopan is a treasure!
Jeff, I plan to convert my basement into a practice room/theater room, and I'm looking forward to watching your upcoming video(s) on building a theater room. (I've watched your past videos on sound proofing, but I'm curious to see how you build out the new theater room) One thing I'm very interested in, is what to do for HVAC in a sound/media room? I think isolating the room from the rest of the house and not installing duct work into the room might be a good way to go, and instead install a mini-split for just that room, but a mini-split only heats and cools a room... what about air circulation and fresh air? Any suggestions on what to do for HVAC and fresh air into the theater room? Well, I will be on the look out for your upcoming videos.
Mini split is one way to go, especially if you have the budget to buy a silent one.
Another way to go is with regular ventilation, but with a built-in dedicated baffle for your soundproofed room. Basically make a box where the air can't go straight, and isolate the box. You'll find article and UA-cam videos on that easily.
for fresh air best to install an air exchanger or a fan in the ceiling that only blows out. you can set it on a timer to exhaust the air in that room while not in use and bring in fresh air. and always leave the door open when not in use.
I love your content. Even though I am not doing any of those, it's nice to learn about it. I use the content to validate some of the work I did before I found these info. I am not just talking about the sound management stuff. I am talking about overall. I particularly like the shed build. LOL.
Cheers Happy to be of help!
Is it good practice to spray foam around electrical outlets? Spray foam is flammable
Love these videos, I currently have a vestibular disease and am very sensitive to sound at times, trying to figure out the best and cheapest (as I am unable to work due to the disease, and still waiting to hear from AISH) way to insulated my office area from the sounds my 4 kids make. My question would be, is there a economical way to sound insulated with a finished ceiling?
install a drop ceiling with sound proofing tiles. Cheers!
I want to learn how to reduce the sound of a machinery room in a townhouse. In my 2005 townhouse, I have a room in the basement that has machinery stuff beside it. That basement room is full of noise with machinery. I am looking for ways to improve the situation and make that room possible for guests who want to sleep overnight
Wheres the video about strapping the ceiling? I THINK it's because otherwise the joists will bounce. I looked up why my floor bounces so much when my wife walks across it and I came across the strapping from someone else. Going to start DIY finishing my basement in 2023 so starting to learn a lot of stuff. I'll search for the strapping thing since I didn't see the link in the video description.
Hi JEFF Do u have any video for floor sound proofing with SONOpanX or can u do one plz
07:30 giving your kids some privacy so they can grow up online LOL.
At least we dont have to listen to them masterfully baiting on tiktok.
Where can I order the Sonopan. Do you have a link I can go to?
What is the name of the green panel you put at the end? Do you know if it is available in Europe?
If ur soundproofing and putting strapping, might as well use resilient channel instead of furring strips.. worth the small price difference...
Love the channel! I’m renovating and adding some soundproofing to a basement in a 100+year old house in the US and will borrow many of your tips and tricks. The only issue is that the ceiling is already a bit low and adding the RC or hat channel/clips will noticeably reduce the amount of headspace. Is there anything more “low profile” that will offer some benefit so people don’t hear foot traffic from above?
always. carpet is the best option in every sound proofing situation.
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY Thanks for responding, appreciated!
Depending on whether you have 2x joists, TJIs, or something else, you can use the RSIC-1 EXT04 or RSIC-1 LP. Both are a bit pricey ($8/clip) but allow you to choose the exact height of your ceiling. Since we're picky AND cheap, we ended up finding a great deal on RSIC-1 (normal ones) in bulk and added blocking between our TJIs which gave us flexibility on exactly where we put our hat channel. 2x 5/8" drywall and minimal penetrations, and life is good!
Hello Jeff,
I have a triplex, sound proof ceiling with 2 layers of safe and sound /resilient channels and 1/2 dryway. Airborne sound is fixed but impact noise ( upstair kids walking) is horrible!!! I feel like I waisted my money and time.
I still have some ceiling to do.
What de you suggest? So my tenants turn over is minimum.
Thanks
Ps. I saw a video on SONOPAN x floor sound proof. You have not talked about this x product (4x4)
Noticed you switched to Milwaukee from DeWalt. Great videos though - love your work and appreciate you sharing your knowledge!!
Pretty sure it's the craftsman stuff he's using for the basement sponsorship. Also red
I am trying out the new line of V20 brushless Craftsman tools. So far IO am loving them.
Love it. Would you also put SONOpan on the ceiling as well?
I put it on my bedroom ceiling. It works well.
I put that Shi* on everything. Cheers!
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY 🤣🤣🤣
Can this be installed between two layers of drywall?
What is the ref of this green sound on panel? Thanks!
What would they have used in a mobile home instead of sheet rock?
I hope Sonopan brings their product to the UK.
start asking fore it and watch what happens.
I plan to redo all of the flooring on the main level of my home. If I were to put down a layer of MLV on the original subfloor, then another plywood subfloor on top of the MLV, would that help at all to reduce impact noises in my basement? I have a home office in my basement, and I can hear every step from people and dogs, as you mentioned in the video. Unfortunately the insulating I did to the ceiling of the office when I built it was not enough to reduce the noises. But maybe a layer of MLV sandwiched between two layers of plywood on the floor above would?
when it comes to sound reduction both mass and the type of flooring have a huge impact on overall performance. mlv and another layer of subfloor will help a lot. if you are using a hard surface flooring then consider a cork or abatek underlayment as well.
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY Yes, I was going to remove the carpeting and lay down some hard flooring. More than likely LVP. Thanks a lot for the advice, appreciate it! I live in Southeastern Michigan, so I may even consider taking a trip across the bridge to Canada and get some SONOpan.
thick carpet and pad will do most of the job, so ask yourself, "do I want sound isolation or do I want hardwood floor?"
I am in Michigan. Would this accidentally also keep the basement cold in the winter? 😅
How did you manage to bring all the drywall down to the basement ?
I wish my basement ceiling was that tall!
right!
That's freaking great Jeff. But you can't get Sonopan panels in the States....
Not unless you call H.D. and tell them you want it. it is all about supply and demand. Cheers!
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY what could that possibly change? If it's not distributed in the USA, they couldn't get it, no matter how much I ask.
I want to know if there's a comparable product on the market in the US that I could acquire and offer to my customers.
7:30 “giving your kids some privacy so they can grow up online” 😂😂😂
SONOpan is not for sale in USA, Do you know any other product available in USA that works the same way?
Link for video about ceiling strapping?
coming out tonight. Cheers!
We live in a home where we have a crawlspace beneath us. Whenever they installed the flooring, I'm sure they didn't use any underlayment & if they did, it's horrible. You can hear every creak and footprint throughout the house.
Is there anything I can do from the crawlspace side where I don't have to tear up the floor and start all over again? I'm guessing the insulation could work but wondering if that's the best solution
P.s. it's a 40 yr old home and had been upgraded in most areas, the flooring being one of them it's just that the flooring is so stinkin loud
Do you put the sonopan on both sides of the bedroom wall or just 1?
I am just doing 1 side. Cheers!
Great video. Does the R value have a major affect on the sound proofing? In your video it looks like you went with R20. Would it make sense to assume that the higher R value the better sound proofing? Lastly, would you recommend buying pink insulation for 2x6 walls instead of 2x4 walls because it's thicker? Thanks and love the content. I am a fellow Canadian who has been watching for years!
r value has no relationship with mass. 2x6 is more mass and therefore more effective.
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY Awesome. Thanks for the quick reply. Much appreciated.
Spend the little extra and get safe and sound. Trying to save you regret later on.
Just built a house, engineered I-joists 19.2" O/C, do you know of any good options for insulating between joists under the sub floor? Ceiling will be drop ceiling tiles
@James Karrie There isn't batts that would fit without cutting as far as I know, unless I stuffed 24" batts in there.
Doing this right now in my basement bathroom. The problem with insulating a ceiling is that the floor upstairs gets colder
I'm looking to soundproof a bedroom...unfortunately I haven't been able to source "sonopan" in Australia, can you recommend anything else apart from Mass loaded vinyl (back issues) ?
it is all about mass. try using 2 layers of 5/8 fire rated drywall on both sides. Cheers!
When are you go to do FIRE caulking and fire barriers
Sonopan still isn't available in Ohio. What's a similar performing alternative?
Lol what's the point of wearing a vapor cartridge to install insulation? I think Jeff is messing with us haha
Wooo, not sure if its just me but it seems like the jump cuts were a tad jarring this time. Overall great info.
Jeff using a red impact driver is unnerving. Dewalt still hasn't gotten back to you on sponsorship deals? :p
What are your suggestions for sound management with existing walls? Is the idea of poking a hole and filling it with expanding foam a good one?
better to drill a hole and install blown in insulation. Cheers!
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY Didn't even think about blown in insulation. Thanks for the tip!
Who was the hack electrician that did the rough in? Looks like a homeowner special.
Could I / would it be wise, to add a SonoPan panel above the ceiling drywall of my downstairs bathroom?
I mean, I suppose my bathroom fan is mounted in a ceiling drywall penetration though... So maybe the SonoPan wouldn't do jack there
you can make a box of sonopan to set your fan into. cheers. try using a panasonic fan. whisper quiet
I just checked Home Depot Canada online, and sono pan is approximately $30 dollars for the 4x8 sheet. I'm not sure of the currency difference from here in the USA, but it would have been nice to have back when we installed MLV in our master bedroom and home theater . Sono pan is considerably less money than MLV. You stated it wasn't our governments preventing it from being sold in America, so what do you think the main reasons are?
it is a new product so the consumer needs to create the demand by contacting home depot and asking them to carry it.
we don't get sonopan in the uk. does anyone know what the equivalent is?
sound isolation -- double walls, sound isolation clips, insulation
Love your content my friend, have been watching for years.
Great video, but there was so much clipping that made my head hurt (don't know if it is youtube problems or editing problems)
It is a different editing style for sure. designed to get you the info as quick as possible. We are testing it out. thanks for the feedback.
I came here to mention that too. I hope they go back to the old editing style. Tooooooo many cuts for my liking
on the west coast we dont strap ceilings. i get the benefits but it also works fine without, especially with engineered joists. its a preference.
I will always strap a ceiling. it makes drywall install so much easier as well as all the other benefits.
Did I miss the link to your video on strapping the ceiling? Didn’t see it in the video description
coming up next!
Unfortunately, Home Depot here in the US does not carry Sonopan. I spoke to Customer Service at Sonopan and they told me they do have distributors here in the US, BUT, I would have to buy a pallet load of Sonopan. That's 65 sheets at $45 per sheet. So, I am looking for a similar product to use to soundproof my theater room in the basement.
That’s the only problem I run into with international UA-camrs. But he usually does a good job of giving us a comparable product when available.
try using mass loaded vinyl on your walls. or use the 2 layers or 5/8 drywall and insulation in the wall s. Cheers!
For once, the canadian price for a canadian product is better than the canadian price of a US product. We pay 25$ in here, which is exceptional.
Can i install on top of my existing drywall? Dont care about it showing?
No rockwool?
Red tuck tape is for exterior sheathing. Blue tuck tape is for interior vapour barrier. That is Code in Canada anyhow.
more of a suggestion for vapor barriers. the red was used for 30 years until the blue came out.
The pink fluff is like a small amount of cotton wool inside your guitar or violin, it slows down the reverberation in the 'sound box'.
This is important to know.
Mass is not needed, just some, and very loose. More density the worse the SOUND insulation, but you must have some.
High density in the sheet material is what is needed.
The heavy sheet material on the wall slows the high frequency sounds.
Long deep sound is always difficult to stop, just like in the ocean the long slower waves travel 1,000s of miles.
Now a second structure with cladding on both outsides only is very effective, includes a little fluff to stop echoing inside the walls.
Remember how far a noisy drill in a concrete building will travel, so solid materials carry sound easily.
What was the price on the SONOpan again for the sake of all of us wondering
I'm not seeing a price that's ezy to fid
it is 31 bucks a sheet so $1 a sq ft basically! Cheers!
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY perfect
Has anybody in the US been able to buy this yet? And if so where?
Sonopan vs mlv?
Where is sonopan sold?
homedepot in canada
I want project sound away from neighbor from my deck. Thinking of doing a double wall
I had someone ask me to paint their tile tub surround today? Are they as crazy as I think they are?
you can spray a flexible fiberglass tub. but call the pros to do it. needs special equipment and training.
I'm now thinking of pink cotton candy
I thought alien had abucted you until I saw the dewalt sawzall. :-)
LOL. I am trying out the new Stanley Black and Decker DIY tool line called Craftsman. The same company owns the Dewalt line for pros. So far I am loving what they are making. Feels exactly the same as Dewalt when I am using them. Cheers! full report coming soon!