3:10 - The 11.10pm London Programme would finish at 12.10am and then LWT would stick in a half hour of music from George Hamilton IV, ending their Friday into Saturday at around 12.45am, not mentioned on the menu line up here.
Great tune from Macca and the boys ("and girl, Reg") tho Bruegal didn't become the drummer in Wings until 1979. As Police 5 is advertised that means I am legitimately able to remind everyone that its presenter was Shaw Taylor and, inevitably, I have to tell you he died when he fell off the back of a lorry.
2:10 I was expecting him to inhale the mixture, I recoiled slightly when he began to drink it. I only associate Vicks with the old pungent VapoRub. Does that stuff really do anything, other than stink?
Take note that the announcer never once mentions the name London Weekend Television or LWT, he just said "I leave you with a look of the programmes you can see tomorrow" and never ever mentioned LWT. As they controlled Fridays for London, their name had to be placed in the menu title.
@@bigredsock1 They did, as the IBA insisted on station identification of schedules back then. Hence why every region's schedule line up had the regional company's name/logo on it. Thames got round this by simply by not mentioning London Weekend Television. This is not a myth. Both companies hated each other and rarely trusted each other. Going all the way back to 1968 and the troubled launch of London Weekend.
@@johnking5174 Really? I've seen a number of YT clips from around that time that feature programme menus with no identification of the regional company.
This Thursday night closedown from Thames - with amusing musical mix-up handled humourously by announcer Peter Marshall - tends to show there was no necessity for the company name (London Weekend Television) to be shown if whenever Thames showered a Friday evening rundown. There are other examples, too. ua-cam.com/video/rKDQ23LicMA/v-deo.htmlsi=8JYgXsTB-i8fuvTK
@@johnking5174indeed so too there john as I think has been said before. Thames and lwt did not get on alas too. When carlton itv took over in 1993 they did not like them much either Odd really but that is how it was then too
I'm still waiting for a reply to my small add 'Hello, I'm into Disco music and enjoy wearing a flared trouser and large collared shirts. I have a collection of over 50 kipper ties My favourite singers are Tavares, Donna Summer and the Bee Gees - have you heard their latest 45? It is number 23 with a bullet in the American Singles chart and I'm sure it will be a big hit over here, particularly after they perform it on Supersonic which I think is a much better pop music show than Top of the Pops! I love Radio 1 - particularly Kid Jensen - I always play it on my car radio when I drive to work. My car is a Blue Ford Escort with a sunroof. Perhaps we could go out for a drive on our first date...ha,ha: as you can tell I have a GSOH! If you are interested in finding out more about me please send s letter to Singles PO Box 69, Colchester. My name? Hey names are for gravestones baby!'
Notice how they never ever mentioned the name LWT and never promoted their line up, just simply showed a line up over some music. Thames and LWT hated each other back then.
@@johnking5174 big time rivals. They should tried to work together as Carlton did with LWT. I noticed during the week if a show promo via Thames was on after 5.15 on Friday or through the weekend they would say this weekend on ITV likewise during the weekend if a show was on weekdays
@@rajnirvan3336 It all goes back to 1968, when LWT launched taking over from ATV for the weekend franchise in London. LWT under the appalling leadership of the late David Frost, who had many talents, but one of them (running a TV station) was not a talent of his (remember how appallingly he managed the launch of TV-am in 1983?) - LWT schedule was as boring and dull as BBC 2, providing operas, documentaries and unfunny high brow comedies, and of course three nights of David's own talk show. The ratings bombed, and viewers flocked to BBC 1. Thames Television, who wanted to have the London franchise 7 days a week took the opportunity to offer hugely discounted advertising slots in their weekday schedules, tempting companies and brands to advertise on Thames where millions would be watching, whereas if they wasted their money advertising on LWT hardly anyone would be watching. That is where the rot set in their relationship. What you think?
@@rajnirvan3336 I have been speaking online to some people who worked at both. Thames Television were fierce campaigners to get the limits on broadcasting hours imposed on them by the government removed. It finally happened in 1972, Thames Television team were really a force behind it.
1979 would not be a great year for ITV. The unions were getting restless, as pay at the ITV companies had not risen much, and with the BBC unions gaining a whopping pay rise in December 1978, the unions called a strike in Aug 1979 at ITV, plunging nearly all of the network off air until Oct 24th 1979.
That's what I heard too. Though I do recall seeing that Thames would produce news services for LWT in the early-mid 80s so maybe hostilities began to thaw by then.
@@whatamalike Thames produced the Friday weekend news for LWT from 1982 to 1988 and called it Thames Weekend News. They did not do it out of kindness, LWT paid them £500,000 a year to produce the 15 min Friday bulletin.
@@whatamalike The hostility between Thames and LWT did not end until October 1991. When Thames found out they would lose their franchise from 1993, LWT felt it was the wrong decision, and felt Thames were treated appalling by the ITC. So by December 1991, they decided to call a truce. LWT had won anyway.
@@johnking5174 interesting. But did lwt and carlton not collaborate on their news efforts? That's certainly a step up from their relationship with Thames.
@@whatamalike Yes, LWT got on better with Carlton for one main reason - MONEY. LWT were committed to pay over £7 million a year for their franchise from 1993, Carlton had to pay a whopping £43 million a year, so combining resources was a no brainer, they had to become friends, otherwise both companies could lose a fortune in news costs.
@treffynnon19 I don't remember Thames ever promoting LWT schedule's and LWT certainly never mentioned Thames. The only time I remember an overlap was if a networked series started on Sunday and continued on the Monday. I also find it strange that the programme rundown preceded the Epilogue.
Notice how they never ever mentioned the name LWT and never promoted their line up, just simply showed a line up over some music. Thames and LWT hated each other back then.
@@johnking5174 I can't recall if Thames & LWT had a joint news programme planned as LWT had with Carlton. It was absolute pathetic the way the two companies carried on. It's not as if there was an ITV 1 and ITV 2 and they were up against each other. All history now.
Ah Robert - When ABC Television ruled the weekends in The North and The Midlands there was a problem with 'Granada from the North' who looked after the weekdays only:). Granada never acknowledged that ABC filled the weekends with fantastic programmes - including the first chat show on British Television - 'Live from London its The Eamonn Andrews Show' I could list many others but .... Later, tv history repeated itself. It appears there was a similar 'problem' between Thames and LWT. Each contractor did an ABC/GRA and gave the other 30 seconds to sell their shows!. Job done! ps I had worked for Granada Sales earlier and later as an in-vision announcer with ABC - but no one really cares about yet another fact!.
![[720p/50p] ITV Thames/LWT | handover and continuity | 1st April 1983 | Part 1 of 2](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/QP0dMmOJS0w/mqdefault.jpg)
From that schedule really enjoyed Flambards and its accompanying unusual music.
The Muppet Show and Soap on in one evening, what a treat. I would have stayed tuned to LWT for the evening.
Me the whole weekend!
:-0
BBC never got a look in at weekends in our house LWT was the place to be.
Interesting close down, great track by Wings, we had the national anthem and loeki the lion for close down in 79 on Westward TV.
3:07 It Says “7.00: The Muppet Show”! I LOVE THIS SHOW!
I woke up this morning with that song in my head. Then I watch this. How weird is that? Perfectly ended with a medieval scene before you go to bed
Or the IBA made them do it
It’s always bad news when you have a Wings song in your head!!!!
3:10 - The 11.10pm London Programme would finish at 12.10am and then LWT would stick in a half hour of music from George Hamilton IV, ending their Friday into Saturday at around 12.45am, not mentioned on the menu line up here.
Lwt would do that then indeed too.
TV has gone downhill from those days.
Yet at the time people were always saying there was nothing but rubbish on TV!
Great tune from Macca and the boys ("and girl, Reg") tho Bruegal didn't become the drummer in Wings until 1979.
As Police 5 is advertised that means I am legitimately able to remind everyone that its presenter was Shaw Taylor and, inevitably, I have to tell you he died when he fell off the back of a lorry.
3:05
That's a fantastic line up of entertainment! Apart from no Professionals at 9pm. But Vegas was a good show in any case. All classic telly.
I know my memory is starting to get frayed after all this time, but I don't recall _Flambards_ being put on that early on a Friday evening.
Thank you!!
very high brow ending... where did it all go wrong! LOL!
What on earth was the point of that final sequence of that painting accompanied by baroque music?
And who the hell is attaignant??!!
Can you imagine today's itv being so slick, professional yet homely at the same time?
ITV is slick and professional, but the programmes it shows now are shite! Vera? This Morning? X Factor. And no LWT anymore.
:-(
2:10 I was expecting him to inhale the mixture, I recoiled slightly when he began to drink it. I only associate Vicks with the old pungent VapoRub. Does that stuff really do anything, other than stink?
Take note that the announcer never once mentions the name London Weekend Television or LWT, he just said "I leave you with a look of the programmes you can see tomorrow" and never ever mentioned LWT. As they controlled Fridays for London, their name had to be placed in the menu title.
They didn't have to put "LWT" at the top of the programme menu. They could have put "ITV", or simply "FRIDAY".
@@bigredsock1 They did, as the IBA insisted on station identification of schedules back then. Hence why every region's schedule line up had the regional company's name/logo on it. Thames got round this by simply by not mentioning London Weekend Television. This is not a myth. Both companies hated each other and rarely trusted each other. Going all the way back to 1968 and the troubled launch of London Weekend.
@@johnking5174 Really? I've seen a number of YT clips from around that time that feature programme menus with no identification of the regional company.
This Thursday night closedown from Thames - with amusing musical mix-up handled humourously by announcer Peter Marshall - tends to show there was no necessity for the company name (London Weekend Television) to be shown if whenever Thames showered a Friday evening rundown.
There are other examples, too.
ua-cam.com/video/rKDQ23LicMA/v-deo.htmlsi=8JYgXsTB-i8fuvTK
@@johnking5174indeed so too there john as I think has been said before. Thames and lwt did not get on alas too. When carlton itv took over in 1993 they did not like them much either
Odd really but that is how it was then too
Phillip Elmore doing the announcements
I’m going out to buy a copy of Singles magazine right now.
I'm still waiting for a reply to my small add
'Hello, I'm into Disco music and enjoy wearing a flared trouser and large collared shirts. I have a collection of over 50 kipper ties
My favourite singers are Tavares, Donna Summer and the Bee Gees - have you heard their latest 45? It is number 23 with a bullet in the American Singles chart and I'm sure it will be a big hit over here, particularly after they perform it on Supersonic which I think is a much better pop music show than Top of the Pops! I love Radio 1 - particularly Kid Jensen - I always play it on my car radio when I drive to work.
My car is a Blue Ford Escort with a sunroof. Perhaps we could go out for a drive on our first date...ha,ha: as you can tell I have a GSOH!
If you are interested in finding out more about me please send s letter to Singles PO Box 69, Colchester.
My name? Hey names are for gravestones baby!'
Debauchery awaits!
@@twold4this where have you been all my life? Lol!
Rare Thames promoting LWT programmes
Notice how they never ever mentioned the name LWT and never promoted their line up, just simply showed a line up over some music. Thames and LWT hated each other back then.
@@johnking5174 big time rivals. They should tried to work together as Carlton did with LWT. I noticed during the week if a show promo via Thames was on after 5.15 on Friday or through the weekend they would say this weekend on ITV likewise during the weekend if a show was on weekdays
@@rajnirvan3336 It all goes back to 1968, when LWT launched taking over from ATV for the weekend franchise in London. LWT under the appalling leadership of the late David Frost, who had many talents, but one of them (running a TV station) was not a talent of his (remember how appallingly he managed the launch of TV-am in 1983?) - LWT schedule was as boring and dull as BBC 2, providing operas, documentaries and unfunny high brow comedies, and of course three nights of David's own talk show. The ratings bombed, and viewers flocked to BBC 1. Thames Television, who wanted to have the London franchise 7 days a week took the opportunity to offer hugely discounted advertising slots in their weekday schedules, tempting companies and brands to advertise on Thames where millions would be watching, whereas if they wasted their money advertising on LWT hardly anyone would be watching. That is where the rot set in their relationship. What you think?
@@johnking5174 Sounds interesting. Basically I loved both Thames and LWT for what they offered
@@rajnirvan3336 I have been speaking online to some people who worked at both. Thames Television were fierce campaigners to get the limits on broadcasting hours imposed on them by the government removed. It finally happened in 1972, Thames Television team were really a force behind it.
Thursday 1st February 1979
as the TITLE SAYS
1979 would not be a great year for ITV. The unions were getting restless, as pay at the ITV companies had not risen much, and with the BBC unions gaining a whopping pay rise in December 1978, the unions called a strike in Aug 1979 at ITV, plunging nearly all of the network off air until Oct 24th 1979.
That medieval thing was a bit random!
@JONATHAN SUTCLIFFE At least there was culture.
I thought Thames and LWT completely ignored each other and never promoted each others programmes
That's what I heard too. Though I do recall seeing that Thames would produce news services for LWT in the early-mid 80s so maybe hostilities began to thaw by then.
@@whatamalike Thames produced the Friday weekend news for LWT from 1982 to 1988 and called it Thames Weekend News. They did not do it out of kindness, LWT paid them £500,000 a year to produce the 15 min Friday bulletin.
@@whatamalike The hostility between Thames and LWT did not end until October 1991. When Thames found out they would lose their franchise from 1993, LWT felt it was the wrong decision, and felt Thames were treated appalling by the ITC. So by December 1991, they decided to call a truce. LWT had won anyway.
@@johnking5174 interesting. But did lwt and carlton not collaborate on their news efforts? That's certainly a step up from their relationship with Thames.
@@whatamalike Yes, LWT got on better with Carlton for one main reason - MONEY. LWT were committed to pay over £7 million a year for their franchise from 1993, Carlton had to pay a whopping £43 million a year, so combining resources was a no brainer, they had to become friends, otherwise both companies could lose a fortune in news costs.
Was that the Shake N Vac woman in the Medinite as?
Thames promoting LWTs Friday Line-Up? Seems the supposed animosity between the two companies had thawed by 1979.
@treffynnon19 I don't remember Thames ever promoting LWT schedule's and LWT certainly never mentioned Thames. The only time I remember an overlap was if a networked series started on Sunday and continued on the Monday. I also find it strange that the programme rundown preceded the Epilogue.
Notice how they never ever mentioned the name LWT and never promoted their line up, just simply showed a line up over some music. Thames and LWT hated each other back then.
@@johnking5174 How petty minded they were. :-0
@@johnking5174 I can't recall if Thames & LWT had a joint news programme planned as LWT had with Carlton. It was absolute pathetic the way the two companies carried on. It's not as if there was an ITV 1 and ITV 2 and they were up against each other. All history now.
@@rtc9063 The broadcasting authority time and time again asked for them to it, but they refused saying it was "impracticable".
Odd that Thames would have a menu for LWT.?
Ah Robert - When ABC Television ruled the weekends in The North and The Midlands there was a problem with 'Granada from the North' who looked after the weekdays only:). Granada never acknowledged that ABC filled the weekends with fantastic programmes - including the first chat show on British Television - 'Live from London its The Eamonn Andrews Show' I could list many others but .... Later, tv history repeated itself. It appears there was a similar 'problem' between Thames and LWT. Each contractor did an ABC/GRA and gave the other 30 seconds to sell their shows!. Job done! ps I had worked for Granada Sales earlier and later as an in-vision announcer with ABC - but no one really cares about yet another fact!.
@@keithmartin2334 You went all over the place, didn't you? ATV, Yorkshire, Anglia, Southern, TVS, LWT and even the BBC.
What is the song played during the medieval segment?
With a little luck. Paul McCartney and Wings
@@jahno7154 No, that was during the lineup.
Adverts up to 2:28 news follows.
So Thames did publicise LWT?
So what we call NyQuil in the USA, they call it Medinite. 🧴