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  • @AlpineWeiss3D
    @AlpineWeiss3D Рік тому +1105

    Heyy ✌️I'm the creator the Heavy Ordnance batteries thank you for featuring me, the models look absolutely amazing :D

    • @diacuuu7185
      @diacuuu7185 Рік тому +19

      yoooo Big A

    • @AlpineWeiss3D
      @AlpineWeiss3D Рік тому +13

      @@diacuuu7185 yoo suup

    • @diacuuu7185
      @diacuuu7185 Рік тому +8

      @@AlpineWeiss3D keep up the good work

    • @fragfmgill
      @fragfmgill Рік тому +12

      James WOrkshop wants to know your location.

    • @the_kroete4357
      @the_kroete4357 Рік тому +7

      Ich spiele zwar keine Imps, fand die Modelle aber so toll, dass ich gerade deine Batterien gekauft habe einfach für den Fall falls ich mal Imps spielen könnte/möchte 🤣

  • @felixb95
    @felixb95 Рік тому +285

    This is the kind of video I missed so far in the 3d printing wargaming sphere! Everybody prints and paints, but with the interviews and the technical aspects... this video is giving me "value" beyond entertainment. Keep it up.

  • @waffles47_87
    @waffles47_87 Рік тому +78

    This went from a wacky “stick it to GW” video to an extremely interesting technical analysis and discussion around 3D printing

    • @contentcop
      @contentcop 8 днів тому

      I just started 3d printing this week with a saturn 4 ultra and this video was a huge help. A lot of people talk like this is fucking quantum physics and I'm to stupid to understand. I learned more from the table flip guy then any form post iv ever read.

    • @contentcop
      @contentcop 8 днів тому

      Ps: I am sticking it to gw because I'm not paying 80 bucks for 3 20 year old old boarderline small models

  • @thelittleemo1
    @thelittleemo1 Рік тому +145

    Pausing the video now to say I love the interviews you're having with these creators. I love that you always shine a spotlight on creators. I think it's interesting how they both respond to the issue of sharing their models because it is a sort of gray area. It's interesting the mix of "attempting to copy 1 to 1" and "these are based on models but with our own spin on them". I don't know if there is a great/correct answer for whether if it's bad or good to to create these models, whether or not to charge for them, or if people are right to buy/print these models out. However, I think this discussion is important and is one that people should be having. Your rpints and models looks great also! cool paintjob!
    Appreciate all the work you do for your videos!

    • @MartinDickson
      @MartinDickson Рік тому +6

      There may even be different 1:1 vs. inspired by answers when considering models that are very IP-specific (like the walker... though that in turn was probably "inspired by" an AT-ST) :) and a piece of field artillery that's not really that far removed from an historical design like a 6-pounder or a Nebelwerfer.

    • @OnceinaSixSide
      @OnceinaSixSide  Рік тому +3

      Appreciate your input!

    • @crediblejones6111
      @crediblejones6111 Рік тому +5

      as an illustrator, i'd be thrilled if someone copied my work... non profit.
      that's like a huge compliment.
      if they try to copy it and sell it... well that kinda sucks.
      also context dependend woudn't mind a 16 year old making 200€ of my design, but when some online shop prints it on t shirt well.....
      and i'm not designing as a job for a multimillion company that's also another perspective but one i can't comment on^^
      But it's not like GW Designers invented AT's or Flamethrowers.
      Hellboy has a biological powerfist aswell.
      99% of concepts used in WH are ''stolen'' ideas some more than others...
      the whole chaos thing? --> taken from a book never even credited the author....^^ i will: Michael Moorcock's Elric saga
      for me atleast, if they really just try to nail it 1n1 then selling is shady.
      if they use these figures as inspiration and i do think they are capeable... of even making a better model^^
      but ofc people want to buy EXACTLY that official model...or close to as possible.
      so i see that conflict aswell and can't blame dudes for making some side money+
      GW can just watch quietly in shame when it comes to taking someones work and profiting of it...
      i mean they tried to copyright Elves Dwarfs and Orcs ... can u imagin?
      Sorry for the wall of text

  • @StrangeKvol
    @StrangeKvol Рік тому +76

    That interview about differences in settings and resin properties were REALLY insightful!

  • @64bitcrafts
    @64bitcrafts Рік тому +45

    As others have said, the interviews with designers/modelers makes these episodes incredibly insightful, and I honestly find them to be the cream of the crop of resin 3d printing videos. I love learning more than a basic 'look at this product' or a 'how to' featuring a surface-level 101 understanding regarding a single setting. Look forward to more in the future!

  • @_jarakin_
    @_jarakin_ Рік тому +16

    Fantastic video. To weigh in on the piracy aspect, and whether it hurts GW... My own opinion is that I think it hurts them far less than they think it will. For someone like myself who is a fringe player of 40k, I've owned several thousand points worth of 40k armies in the past (which has all been sold now), I have no desire to get back into the hobby as the models are cost prohibitive for me. However, I do own a 3d printer and if I could make my own armies for a fraction of the price and play again, or get into the modelling side of the hobby too, I may well do that. If I choose to go down that route, GW will be net positive from me as I'll be buying bits and pieces here and there, paints, rulebooks etc. etc., so without piracy they no longer have me as a customer, and with it, they have a customer that they otherwise would not.

  • @dannywood3015
    @dannywood3015 Рік тому +33

    Ty is a legend he literally sat down with me for over an hour going through settings with me I learnt so much

    • @TheFarmoon
      @TheFarmoon 10 місяців тому

      Title kinda buries the lede. Very interesting discussions and viewpoints here.

  • @LukeMcMurray
    @LukeMcMurray Рік тому +14

    the little sound effects added during painting and basing are great e.g. the texta writing scratching sound, the water sound for the glue, the dirt being moved around for the basing mix being added. Small effects but have a big impact.
    Great work man

  • @TomTrustworthy
    @TomTrustworthy Рік тому +35

    I love all the value you provide us, all with a fun video too. Thanks for all the projects you take on to help 3d printing become more reliable.

  • @XinZ1138
    @XinZ1138 Рік тому +14

    Excellent video. Hearing the people behind these designs was a rare treat. 3d printing tends to be such a taboo subject but hearing what this community has to offer is pretty awesome. Keep up the amazing work man.

  • @TheMiniMadCat
    @TheMiniMadCat Рік тому +36

    This video fills me with hope for the hobby.
    About 11 months ago I developed RSI on the job working for GW, and they treated me awfully. I used to warn my manager about the incoming affect 3d printing was bound to have on the business and he used to snub me and tell me it'll never be as good.
    Screw that company, they're 100% the biggest problem in the hobbyspace. Just like any other creative innovation, their models have always been iterations of models and ideas that came before them.
    I don't believe they are going to be able to protect their IP because the truth on all that is out and spread wide.
    The models you've printed look amazing, and having seen the 3d sculpting myself from inside HQ, probably of a higher detail and quality.

    • @OnceinaSixSide
      @OnceinaSixSide  Рік тому +7

      Sorry to hear about your experience at GW! I love what they've created with Warhammer but yeah it's hard to be a fan of the company. 3D printing is clearly the better fit for the hobby at this point.

  • @justfunk103
    @justfunk103 Рік тому +34

    I have to say, after 15 years I'm looking at getting back into Warhammer, been doing piles of reading and watching video's. Stumbled across your channel while looking into 3D printers, which I didn't know existed. I really love all the video's you do, went through your whole back-log as well. Made a follower of me for sure! Keep up the fantastic work, and who knows, maybe I will get back into the hobby again.

    • @OnceinaSixSide
      @OnceinaSixSide  Рік тому +4

      3D printing is a really great way to enjoy the hobby these days, hope you take the plunge and thanks for checking out the channel!

    • @Chris-cv1yh
      @Chris-cv1yh Рік тому

      I got my photon mono with a free bottle of resin off ebay for $190 in august...cheaper than a gw army box!

  • @guillaumebolis7611
    @guillaumebolis7611 Рік тому +19

    hey, thanks for featuring my work on this video! (I'm the maker of the sentinel model) love the result, seing the process and all those insights is really nice

    • @maciejkoodziejczak5884
      @maciejkoodziejczak5884 Рік тому

      How do I find the model?

    • @boneman-calciumenjoyer8290
      @boneman-calciumenjoyer8290 Рік тому +1

      Good job you did there.

    • @guillaumebolis7611
      @guillaumebolis7611 Рік тому +1

      @@maciejkoodziejczak5884 there are instructions on how to find the page in the description. we didnt want to include a direct link to avoid getting striked by GW ^^'

    • @maciejkoodziejczak5884
      @maciejkoodziejczak5884 Рік тому +2

      @@guillaumebolis7611 Yeah, thanks, I wrote the comment like 30% into the video and then he just shows the filename to look for. Thanks for a great piece of a model! :)

    • @OnceinaSixSide
      @OnceinaSixSide  Рік тому +3

      Thank you Guillaume for being a part of this video! Was awesome chatting with you as well as printing and painting up that epic sentinel 😎

  • @finnon7460
    @finnon7460 Рік тому +36

    Dude, phenomenal video !
    So educational, loved those interviews. Honestly, you're the king of 3D printing videos, slick visuals, buttery audio, and interesting topics.
    Keep doing what you're doing, it's always a pleasure to see what you come out with - like I genuinely look forward to watching it ! :D

  • @Fahnder99
    @Fahnder99 6 місяців тому +1

    WOW! Thanks especially for the interview with the cones guy. It's already obvious that the cones are kind of support test around 0.3mm but have him talk about it plus the resin examples with zmud and tenacious is gold!
    Oh yes and btw, good paint job!

  • @medburyminiatures9607
    @medburyminiatures9607 Рік тому +5

    Interesting to hear the sculpters talk about why they make what they make, I don't see much off the 40k printing scene, but it looks huge, interesting to see 2 totally different POV's here

  • @cbowser7783
    @cbowser7783 Рік тому +1

    Just got a photon mono x 6 k and I'm printing the sentinel for my first print. Love the channel thank you for all the support. Looking forward to the next video.

  • @redline3090
    @redline3090 Рік тому +6

    Excellent video. Did a ton of resin testing and settled on using "8K" resin on my 4K printers. I like the detail I get from 8K resin. I use Phrozen's 8K resin mixed with 10% Tenacious. Calibrated with the Cones of Calibration and I can print minis reliably. With the money saved on not buying physical mini's, I invest that into good resin.

  • @Cainlce5
    @Cainlce5 Рік тому +35

    GW need to release affordable 3d options and get in on the action 😂

    • @MaccabeeSolarLLC
      @MaccabeeSolarLLC 8 місяців тому +1

      I agree, they should sell a subscription for access to a faction or all factions, sell GW approved Resin, have a community on helping clients print their models. Sort of like buying a computer printer now. However come to think of it, I realize GW will still find a way to screw the customer over, but if I could 3D print my Imperial Guard army, I would. No way I can invest 1.5k on models alone in this economy, without the ability to print more.

  • @NatesMiniatures
    @NatesMiniatures Рік тому +2

    happy to support mate :D my name on a guardsmen with a plasma gun heck yeah @38:18
    Yes it is a great time, can I stop smiling now :O

  • @squadof5
    @squadof5 Рік тому +4

    Great discussion with Ty from Tableflip - calibrating one of my printers at the moment and ran into the same scenario that I felt the Cones were giving me over-exposed settings. The guys on the Tableflip discord are really helpful. Looking forward to your vid on this.

  • @maddlarkin
    @maddlarkin Рік тому +6

    I was fairly appalled when I saw the new Guard army set, couple of squads, command team, a sentinel and 3 field guns, the old set 2 squads, a command team, a heavy weapons squad a russ and a chimera.... The field guns are equal to two separate vehicle kits... really! This is the reason my current Guard army is being built from 3rd party models.

  • @scotthancock8225
    @scotthancock8225 Рік тому +3

    Don't stop making content ever!! love your approach and production value!!!!

  • @oleww50
    @oleww50 Рік тому +4

    Also thanks for supporting the sentinel! Most appreciated ❤

  • @toku_fox
    @toku_fox Рік тому +7

    As someone who just got into wh40k near the end of 8th edition with Imperial Guard, I don't really have a problem with 3d printing and attempting to recreate models that gw themselves are putting out. The sheer fact of the matter is that GW has some of the highest profit margins of any company, their products are remarkably cheap to create, and they sell them for some of the highest prices in the industry. That combined with their routine decisions to rather make the game worse than to allow other companies to make models for older units and options that were still in the rules but not made by gw anymore, as well as recent decisions regarding raising their prices for retailers and local game stores to acquire their products makes me not really worried if 3d printing is hurting GW anymore since they themselves seem so focused on improving their margins while providing none of those savings to their customers at all.

    • @SendarSlayer
      @SendarSlayer Рік тому

      I absolutely hate that GW, or Warhammer as they're called now, are so harsh on stopping older models that THEY DON'T MAKE ANYMORE! Like why? It does Nothing to reduce their profits.
      Meanwhile CGL with Battletech included a flyer for 3 different mini makers who do old or not currently in production mechs in my beginner box. Metals, old plastics, and plastics that are just currently not in production (New models but no current factory line)

  • @alejandrotuazon4831
    @alejandrotuazon4831 Рік тому +2

    Came for the guard proxies, stayed for the calibration lecture :) Im a design engineer and one of the things we balance in a design is the needed strength for a part to keep the stresses within acceptable values :) so often we have to adjust the design so the part would be strong enough for its intended use

  • @supertaco22
    @supertaco22 Рік тому +1

    had the necrons void dragon printed and painted and brought it to a game at a warhammer store before it was available for sale

  • @williamodom6479
    @williamodom6479 Рік тому +1

    16:26 Yes that sound is normal. It is the bottom spinny part of the machine hitting against a piece of a printed mini. Just make sure no small parts are sticking through the bars at the bottom and the sound will go away.

  • @feudalfortyk
    @feudalfortyk Рік тому +3

    Super stoked that you gave the Conjure Sculpt resin a shot!

  • @uberwildy
    @uberwildy Рік тому +2

    Awesome video! I've found that if I put the uncured bits in a small tub of water and cure them while they're suspended in water then it helps a lot. IDK if that occurs due to refraction aiding UV light hitting any little hidden parts or if the water helps in some other way. Might be worth testing though!

  • @svinjaxz
    @svinjaxz Рік тому +2

    Amazing video - especially the interwiew about the resin and cones of calibration. Just adding 2cents from anycubic wash and cure machine side (the small one, coming with photon mono 4k). The machine comes with an underlying reflecting/mirror foil disc (like a really thin cd) which does help with curing from the bottom, pretty ingenious.

  • @us-rb
    @us-rb Рік тому

    That interview with Ty was fascinating and I'm glad you decided to keep the whole segment instead of cutting it.

  • @D3xt3rity
    @D3xt3rity Рік тому +1

    Wow! this video is absolutely awsome! Its the most detailed and well themed video i've seen for 3D printing content. Please keep up the great work! :D

  • @vatofdread1468
    @vatofdread1468 Рік тому +1

    Love how thorough you are covering this stuff. If I may make a suggestion, I use SUNLU ABS like resin. That has been my go to resin for a good while now. Other than air bubbles in flat areas, I’d consider it the best resin I have ever used.

  • @BulldogRC
    @BulldogRC Рік тому

    This was by far the most beneficial video I've watched since joining the 3d printing universe. Thank you for taking the time to interview the experts. I really think you have a good thing going and should make a show doing the interviews. Keep up the great work by man!😊

  • @mattheo7634
    @mattheo7634 Рік тому

    I´m 15 minutes in and dunno if you say anything later; but I had to stop and give you the best tip I got over ther year printing. Get a First IPA bucket. You get off most of the resin in that one in a couple of minutes and than you use the washing and cure machine to do the second cleaning. I never had any resin left over on my minins after that .
    Also use a cheap hairdryer to remove the supports. Its more enviroment friendly and you can hit just the supports, avoiding bending other parts as with hot water.
    Finally an IPA distiller (I use a water distiller) from Vevor is gonna save you so much money in the long run that is insane.
    Good luck with your channel.

  • @tonyennis1787
    @tonyennis1787 Рік тому +3

    Let's get real - the howitzer is bog-standard. It looks a LOT like a US 105mm howitzer. The Sentinel is straight out of Star Wars, so GW can't make too much of a claim.

  • @jpee300
    @jpee300 Рік тому +1

    Cones part is pretty interesting. My feeling is the story only holds up is there is 1 proper standard how models are pre-supported (thickness etc.). But in the end the assumption is, as long as you keep overexposing more and more, in the end you won't get a misprint. But yeah... you sacrifce dimensional accuracy.
    If you don't care about dimensional accuracy then, apart from maybe bigger build plates and a faster printer you don't need the expensive 4K/8K stuff. You throw it away anyway, to a certain degree.
    Other way around would be more interesting --> if you dial in your printer for dimensional accuracy --> then print the cones --> they teach you what kind of supports would work --> that way you can make sure your own supports are OK.
    Of course at the sacrifice that you need to put some work in yourself instead of click and print.
    So it's a different approach aiming for a different goal. But still not sure given pre-supported model support variations how universal it actually is.

  • @bobmorris799
    @bobmorris799 Рік тому +1

    Great video, shame the upgrade to the old printer had some issues, but it's encouraging to hear about 4k retrofits in the pipeline; I had good results upgrading to a mono screen on my Creality LD-002R.

  • @garin4364
    @garin4364 Рік тому

    Heya, Very cool! I'm Garin from the makers cult and I've just found out about this channel. Your production value is amazing. Just a quick note, we do repair things in 3d builder before posting, but lychee considers several things to be issues that other software do not (Overlapping shells, multiple points very close together, multiple shells, ect) None of us use lychee, (prusa FTW) which is why this isn't caught. We do however test print everything before it goes out to make sure it all slices and prints without issue. Cheers,

    • @OnceinaSixSide
      @OnceinaSixSide  Рік тому

      Hey Garin! Nice to hear from you, I'm a big fan of TMC 😄 I'm currently looking into these "minor errors" in a bit more detail because it does seem to have some variance from one computer to the next. For instance files that I've repaired in 3D builder and read fine thereafter in Lychee aren't guaranteed to do so on another computer, and show up with errors. It's super weird and I want to figure out what's going on there and hopefully will have something to say on the matter in a future video. Thanks for stopping by!

  • @theriveracis5172
    @theriveracis5172 Рік тому +1

    This is quite a stellar channel to find.
    I came expecting to see neat warhammer prints.
    Instead, I got some genuinely amazing knowledge on printing and troubleshooting, alongside the way these prints are made.
    Well done. I'm shocked you kept it so engaging, too.

    • @theriveracis5172
      @theriveracis5172 Рік тому

      To answer the question of what is perfect exposure;
      As I've always seen it, it's the ratio of reliability vs accuracy.
      That ratio depends on the individual and their print. Some folk are fine with failures, some folk hate them. Some folk need a 30 minute print, and so will be willing to put up with failures so long as their bed is full of some successes at that speed. Sone folk have a five day print that would set them back ages if it fails.
      These people need different ratios of reliability to accuracy.
      Incidentally, this is the same thing for 'perfect supports'.
      Maximum reliability for minimum damage.
      Nobody likes support marks. But nobody likes failed prints either.
      So compromises must be met, and balances struck.

    • @OnceinaSixSide
      @OnceinaSixSide  Рік тому

      Stoked you found your way here!

  • @brandontaylor5896
    @brandontaylor5896 Рік тому +1

    17:14 with some TUP in the background, what a real man

  • @lylemackie4207
    @lylemackie4207 Рік тому

    By far one of the best 3D printing and miniature channels on UA-cam, no idea why you don't have more subscribers yet!

  • @german1340
    @german1340 Рік тому +2

    I recomend taking off the support of the big things before putting into the wash and cure, you will have better cleaning results!, nice challenge btw!

  • @brandonchaplin9782
    @brandonchaplin9782 Рік тому +1

    I bought the bigger anycubic wash and cure machine and its been brilliant. They have a mirrored sheet that goes down under the turn table aswell as the strip that has the UV lights has an arm that can turn up to 55° from memory so it's definitely made curing way way better

  • @HoneyCMB
    @HoneyCMB Рік тому +1

    This was great! The interviews really gripped me in particular, and looking forward to more minis content :3

  • @BarokaiRein
    @BarokaiRein Рік тому +1

    One of the big reasons why stl files come with errors is that they get corrupted during upload stage. I had bit of a back and forth with one creator on MMF where I basically checked their files for them as a customer and they kept reuploading the files and I kept finding errors such as straight up just holes in them that you can't fix with stuff like lychee because lychee doesn't think they're broken.
    According to them the files were always fine on their end, so what they ended up having to do was download the files through MMF, then repair those and upload those and then they eventually stopped getting corrupted on upload.

  • @PulsefiredGaming
    @PulsefiredGaming Рік тому +4

    Dude this video was so good. thanks for the super indepth process. I started something similar trying to make a imperial knights christmas box.

  • @MortdeathMinis
    @MortdeathMinis Рік тому +2

    so glad youre making this video, I've been thinking of making this but I don't have any filming set up or the time to learn to edit videos. But yeah you could have done this with the last army they released too the leagues of voltan. Keep up the series!

  • @lizardsoup6943
    @lizardsoup6943 Рік тому +1

    Honestly, i realy like the paint job. I don't know but it gives me like a grimdark comic style vibe.
    Love ur vids, keep up the good work!

  • @ActualDragonTears
    @ActualDragonTears Рік тому

    I have the same wash and cure station and also have the same issue of things sticking out the bottom. My solution? Hold up the basket with a paintbrush! A mesh is probably a better idea, though, as it keeps small prints like heads and weapons from falling through.

  • @kernel5446
    @kernel5446 Рік тому +2

    What is the soundtrack playing at around 32:00? Would love to know!

    • @OnceinaSixSide
      @OnceinaSixSide  Рік тому +1

      All the music in my videos (bar one or two songs) are made by yours truely! I will release them all eventually so keep an eye out for that :)

  • @Inquisitor_Landstander
    @Inquisitor_Landstander Рік тому

    Hey man great video! I'm the pre-supporter for Atlan Forge and i've shared this with all our people on discord, very informative! I also shared the mini-rater site and urged people to contribute ;)

    • @OnceinaSixSide
      @OnceinaSixSide  Рік тому +1

      Awesome! I'll have to try out some Atlanforge minis one of these days

  • @Varadiio
    @Varadiio Рік тому +1

    I started out on Vallejo for airbrush priming. It's not bad but adhesion could be better. I've heard good things about stynlrez, and then a ton of bad things due to freezing in storage/shipping. I passed them over for Pro Acryl prime from a reputable local store.

  • @flamingbullett
    @flamingbullett Рік тому

    One of the most genuinely informative videos I've seen on 3d printing in a while, all wrapped up in my favorite hobby
    Amazing video

  • @Fymosis
    @Fymosis Рік тому +1

    Just discovered your channel and omg your video are so interesting, the advice on making and supporting files, 3D printing tips&tricks and even the painting "guide" parts of the video, ALL of this is really well thought, It's just seems so easy to follow and understand. Keep up the good works !

  • @carlstanford7607
    @carlstanford7607 Рік тому

    You place the build plate in the wash cure machine then take the models off after washing. Chucking them in loose is only for large models that don’t fit. Otherwise one of those little bits will fall through as happened

  • @any1alive
    @any1alive Рік тому

    the ciuty is a multi use terst, pin holes for over exposure, and towers for udner exposure and also liftign speed tests

  • @digidragon1
    @digidragon1 Рік тому +1

    Holy shit, this was an educational video. These interviews and questions are incredible. Even after years of printing so much clicked for me in this video.

  • @sheynchapman9829
    @sheynchapman9829 11 місяців тому

    Thank you for the amazing content as always, I have actually bought a 3D Printer, and wash/ cure station for this very reason and your ability to give lots of info while keeping it fun and well edited and commentated so thank you again.

  • @PulsefiredGaming
    @PulsefiredGaming Рік тому

    you can totally tell they took peoples feedback to heart because if you look at the screen change process on their M series printers. its way way way way easier

  • @KickassShow
    @KickassShow Рік тому +1

    i love this video. so refreshing from all the print and paint vids. keep up the good work!

  • @colemiller8180
    @colemiller8180 Рік тому

    I've seen other UA-camrs use geek gaming scenics for boards but this video is the one that convinced me to give it a go. Those bases are cool

  • @JackOiswatching
    @JackOiswatching Рік тому

    Holy shit, I'm glad I found this video even though I tend to skip over anything focusing on GW stuff. Super insightful stuff on resin calibration, really helpful!

  • @VCRVoyage
    @VCRVoyage Рік тому +1

    That was a phenomenal watch, I learned a lot!
    A couple points of interest -
    1. Try out Siraya Tech Fast Resin, it's what i've been using of late and I've had no issues using their default print settings on my Photon Mono. (Just don't leave it in the vat long term because it'll make for a hell of a clean-up)
    2. I don't have an Elegoo Wash and Cure, but I do have the Anycubic Wash & Cure 2.0 and that one doesn't have led's in the bottom but it does have a reflective sheet that you place below the tray, You might be able to rig something similar up for the elegoo.

    • @OnceinaSixSide
      @OnceinaSixSide  Рік тому +1

      Would love to get my hands on that resin! As for the cure station even if it did have lights or a reflector it's still tiny. So good for a small print job I guess

  • @evilstans
    @evilstans Рік тому

    Another variable to consider is your wash times and bath temp. Note I use the water washable stuff now, but letting it sit for a little longer will soften the supports right up when you find they are a little tough - I sometimes see this if I don't pull them from the build plate right away.
    Also for the cure station the basket is typical of most of the models out there and small bits can fall out or ends stick out but your solution is the typical one to just find some mesh. For the curing bit, anycubics ones have a relective plate that goes in under the tray - you could probably just put some mylar or tinfoil with a hole cut out to reflect underneith.

  • @dave_s_vids
    @dave_s_vids Рік тому +1

    Great video; really good stuff. Loved the " 'ow do guys" impression too :D

  • @Mikilangelo
    @Mikilangelo Рік тому +1

    One HUGE THANK YOU for all your effort and sharing!

  • @chikhai
    @chikhai Рік тому

    Ty is absolutely spot on in what he says. I see the Cones getting a lot of flak for being a "poor" test, but in my experience its a fantastic quick 'n' dirty test for giving you an accurate ballpark to work around.
    The trouble with the likes of the AmeraLabs or Siraya Tech tests is that people aim for perfection within the confines of that particular test. Its like trying to determine if your PC can run a particular game by running a benchmark. Some games are well optimised, some are just poor ports.
    One thing that Ty didn't pick up on is the difference between different batches of resin. I run a 3D printing business and my machines run 24/7 and drink a lot of resin. I can categorically say that resin quality/properties varies from batch to batch. I usually buy my resin in 100L at a time, and I will check the dates on each bottle, grouping them by date before they're used. I'll run calibration tests between batches as there is a noticeable difference between them. We're talking a +/- 1 second difference in exposure time in some cases. Don't assume that because you're buying the same resin from the same manufacturer that your settings remain the same; they won't. Not if you want consistent quality anyway.
    You don't have to calibrate from one bottle to the next, but I would advise checking the dates on those bottles. If there is month or more between the one you're using and the empty one you've just thrown away, run a calibration test. The results may surprise you.
    One piece of advice I can give is to pick a resin and stick to it. Learn it's shortcomings and adapt to them. Even the most dogshit of resins out there can be made serviceable with the right settings. It won't take you long to realise how much these materials can be pushed before you hit the ceiling of what they're capable of achieving. Too many people flit from one manufacturer or variant to another when they have a rash of failures. Learning the limits of the materials you're using is just as important as learning the mechanics of 3D printing.

  • @eryahs
    @eryahs Рік тому

    Clicked the Video because of the clickbait title, left with a channel subscribtion because this was extremely insightful. Thanks
    PS: I also got the chitu Photon s upgrade. Its worth disassembling the plastics for easier Installation as far as i recall correctly altough they dont show it. For me the upgrade was well worth it

  • @sevencoloredmage8726
    @sevencoloredmage8726 Рік тому +1

    Those interviews were really great and insightful. Great video that didn't feel long at all

  • @64bitcrafts
    @64bitcrafts Рік тому +1

    Regarding: "there is no such thing as a 'consistent rating' because every printer/resin combo has so many variables up in the air, so Minirater is a bit waffley."
    I think Minirater is still an important project, because there are plenty of elements to these model patreons/shops/kickstarters than just 'does my first print succeed with minimal calibration'. Customer service, file organization, if files are corrupted or have lots of topology errors, islands, etc. And even when only referring to the 'printability' of files and presupports, having a community average score is an excellent resource, even if you feel it necessary to put a big asterisk next to those specific scores say YMMV.

  • @SpringfieldFatts
    @SpringfieldFatts Рік тому +3

    Christ I thought it was just 'normal' to have to struggle with support removal. Thanks, now I need to go back and reevaluate all my settings.
    This was great, thanks.
    Edit: Also the Wash & Cure v1 starts in wash mode I can't tell you how many times I don't catch it and all my pieces go flying around in the box at 100rpms.

  • @samahearn770
    @samahearn770 Рік тому

    I bought the new Cadia Stands box despite owning a Photon. The detail and visual appearance of the models are comparable to 3D printed versions, but the biggest thing for me is resilience. I have a tonne of printed ork things, but they're my "stay at home" army because the printed resin is so much more brittle compared to injection moulded plastic. I've tried a few resins, but haven't found anything that stands up to the stresses and strains of being knocked about or scooped from the tabletop in the same way that GW plastic can handle. I normally augment GW kits with printed bits, because sometimes you just need another plasma gun. On the other hand, big chunky bois like imperial knights are prime for printing because they're less likely to snap or chip because the parts are so much larger and thicker.

  • @moonscript4675
    @moonscript4675 Рік тому +2

    3D printing warhammer is good cause it makes warhammer much much MUCH more accessible to people who can’t drop hundreds on minis and paints and books

  • @-__-4186
    @-__-4186 Рік тому

    ProTip : get 2nd wash container for wash station keep 1st for initial wash and then put basket in second "cleaner" IPA. i tend to keep 10 min each.

  • @rogthepirate4593
    @rogthepirate4593 Рік тому

    Also, yeah, having a wash&cure station is a total gamechanger. I got the big one from anycubic to go with my Mono X, because it just lets me chuck in the build plate completely (which, nicely, also cleans off the plate itself). Post processing was never easier than this. It also cures better, has this little part on top that angles down, and a reflective sheet that goes under the turntable to reflect the UV light back up and under the parts.

  • @traversal6881
    @traversal6881 Рік тому +1

    Just stumbled here and tripped on a subscription. Great video mate. Haven't seen many great Aussie producers but this is a really good watch so far (~10m). Howdy from QLD.

  • @benweinberg3819
    @benweinberg3819 Рік тому

    Got to say this vid has been in my recommended for a while, but I've been putting it off because I assumed it would be one of those long, drab, poorly edited walkthroughs of 3D printing. How sorely mistaken I was.
    Even though I don't yet 3D print in the hobby, this was one of the best introductions technically about the science and art balance of it I've seen. Every minute kept my attention even though the bulk of what I came to watch was in the last 10 minutes or so. Aces all round

  • @Bluecho4
    @Bluecho4 Рік тому

    The cure station could be enhanced by putting a larger circular mirror onto the rotating platform, followed by another transparent platform on top of that. This might serve to get the underside exposed, without needing to flip parts over.

  • @CJ-ur3fx
    @CJ-ur3fx Рік тому

    A ultrasonic waterbath does an amazing job at cleaning resin prints. Even better than a 'wash & cure station'.

  • @spuriusligustinus4509
    @spuriusligustinus4509 Рік тому +4

    Another amazing and long format video.
    The interviews of the creators was really interesting and I hope you'll keep doing it in the future
    Nice to see the channel growing, you deserve it with the quality of your work
    On the subject of free VS paid, there are multiple STL files for the new Rogal Dorn tank.
    Will you do something about it ?

    • @OnceinaSixSide
      @OnceinaSixSide  Рік тому

      Cheers! I think Weissnix is actually the guy behind one of those haha

    • @spuriusligustinus4509
      @spuriusligustinus4509 Рік тому

      @@OnceinaSixSide
      Yes, I saw it on his Cults page. There are at least 3 or 4 other ones on Cults now and the official GW isn't even out yet lol
      That's what I find really great with 3d printing, artists and creators will work faster and give us models even before GW ones are even out, paid or free.
      It was the case for the Leagues of Votann and it seems to be the case too for IG now.

  • @mordecaitoth6703
    @mordecaitoth6703 Рік тому +1

    Excellent video! Both entertaining and informative, as usual. If it helps anyone, I have had great success using Elegoo ABS-like grey resin mixed with roughly 10% of Siraya Tech’s Tenacious clear resin and using the One Page Rules recommended print settings for the original Elegoo Mars. Even after using these settings I still experienced the occasional failure, both with pre-supported and manually supported models, but now I always open the stl file in the Windows 3D Builder app to repair it before slicing and printing and I haven't had a failure (that wasn't related to inadequate supports) since.

  • @HotelCharliHill
    @HotelCharliHill Рік тому +1

    Another bang-up video! Definitely going to continue being subbed and look forward to your extensive comparison of resins in the coming year. it will be useful when I finally start 3d printing crispy minis.... and will then be updating your tier list!

  • @shartsmcginty8056
    @shartsmcginty8056 Рік тому

    I love Stynylrez! I use it as a brush-on primer when the weather is too finicky to use a rattlecan.
    That said, a lot of people in the Northern Hemisphere are going to try it for the first time and be disappointed. If Stynylrez freezes, such as during shipping in winter, its chemical structure is altered and it pretty much becomes useless.

  • @TheFish711
    @TheFish711 10 місяців тому +4

    Is 3d printing a threat to GW? Yes. Is that a bad thing? No.

  • @PulsefiredGaming
    @PulsefiredGaming Рік тому

    Can you do a video on the effacacy of auto supports in the slicers and saving time by using them them going through UVtools to find the errors and correcting them?

  • @jonathannielsen-chan4009
    @jonathannielsen-chan4009 Рік тому +1

    Are you washing the models in IPA? If so where are you sourcing it in Australia? - seems expensive and hard to find at bunnings :(

    • @OnceinaSixSide
      @OnceinaSixSide  Рік тому +1

      Methylated Spirits from Coles or Woolies! It's about $5 a litre

  • @the_arcanum
    @the_arcanum Рік тому +1

    Yay, thanks for the insider info about the 4k upgrade ! I have been itching to upgrade my OG Photon but it felt ridiculous to cobble up parts that would cost me as much/as low as a brand new Mono 4k that is the best price/qualiity ratio of the market atm (sale is about 180$/€).

  • @TryChillBalloo
    @TryChillBalloo Рік тому +1

    you should get in touch with elegoo to send you the saturn 2
    i am relativly new to this 3d stuff but nearly all my prints are sucessful thanks also to tableflip foundry precaliobration.
    with that machine im sure you have no more layer lines. i nearly dont have any

  • @SendarSlayer
    @SendarSlayer Рік тому

    Subbed because of those interviews. Taking the time to get in contact made all the difference to this video.

  • @RedsGoneGrey
    @RedsGoneGrey Рік тому +1

    Another oustanding video mate.
    The amount of work and information you get through in every video contiunes to be staggering.
    The discussion around the variables that lead to the degree of dimensional accuracy acheived in prints was super interesting.
    I still think there is huge value to be gained in the minirater project. The issue of specific resins and printers the customer is using is relevant and worth considering as a factor for sure, but IMO this should be secondary to addressing the absoulte basics of unsupported islands, file organisation, or files with errors etc.
    Keep up the great work mate! Loving each new installment.
    Do I hear the influcence of the Risk of Rain soundtrack on the music at the 15:20 mark?

    • @OnceinaSixSide
      @OnceinaSixSide  Рік тому +2

      Appreciate that! I'm unfamiliar with that soundtrack, I'll have to check it out!

  • @gregpower308
    @gregpower308 Рік тому +1

    GW should look at the 3D artists as a shot across their bow. Their exorbitant prices had to be endured because they had the monopoly but not now. They should be really getting around the table with the shareholders and having a grown up conversation about the prices they are charging.
    The artillery is a version of the nebelwerfer so GW are nicking ideas from history too.

  • @Drakkarlegion
    @Drakkarlegion 7 місяців тому

    @AlpineWeiss What happened to the Heavy Ordinance Battery? I am looking for it and cant find it.

  • @reservoirred101
    @reservoirred101 11 місяців тому

    the conversation on calibrating for tension strength or dimensional accuracy was very enlightening, for minis I will aim for tension strength calibration with the cones

  • @64bitcrafts
    @64bitcrafts Рік тому +1

    I think 'derivative' 3d model/3d printing works should be perfectly fine, morally and (hopefully?) legally. The artist had no access to 3d tools or assets that GW directly creates, so everything is still their original work, even if it was heavily inspired by something else. Back in the day in engineering, this process, *reverse engineering*, was incredibly important for big companies who needed to create competing products. The only way the 3d modelling could be done 'more proper' by that old method would be having them model the figures off of a text description of the GW version, instead of a picture.
    Ultimately, I'd say if GW was doing their job right, they wouldn't have to worry about being harmed by 3d printing in the first place. Movies didn't die because of VCRs, despite what companies claimed. Music didn't die from digital downloads, live tv didn't die from tivos/DVRs, etc. If they learn to ride the wave and embrace it instead of running themselves into the ground, they'll come back.

  • @hugheja89
    @hugheja89 Рік тому

    Great video, did you ever do the resin comparison video? Theres a few water washable abs like resins that look interesting

  • @massimoraso
    @massimoraso Рік тому

    hey mate, what a great video, I like how much you displayed all the steps in your endeavor, it's quite unique and comforting when engaging in a task myself, as it gives a good playbook to tackling these technical/creative issues as they arise.

  • @jamgooandyou
    @jamgooandyou Рік тому

    As a newbie the huuuge technical know how, tweaking of that printer, the time, effort before, during n after is why I'll be sticking with GW models