WHO gives a damn what the critics said? No one remembers who they were - but here we all are listening to this divine music-making 37 years later. He is magic. He is simply magic. I first got to know the Fauré as a boy soprano almost 60 years ago. I have loved it ever since. I have been rehearsal pianist for amateur choirs, BUT in all my dreams I couldn't imagine such wonderful singing as Celibidache gets from that choir. I find myself singing along as if Celibidache is drawing the music out of me. The man was a magician.
@@SereneJudo If he didn't make any recordings, Jim,, how come we can listen to him on UA-cam? Perhaps your comment would be more intelligent if you distinguished between criticism such as Eric Blom's famous description in Grove 1954, that Rachmaninoff's music is" montonous", and the creative criticism of a student by a teacher in a masterclass.
We have all read what the critics thought of Madam Butterfly or Carmen at their respective first performances. Also how Rachmaninov's 1st Symphony was trashed . It has since turned out to be accepted as a real gem , and quite rightly so. This can be said of so many works that the critics slated at first. They are paid to criticise ( find fault ) .
I am an old man and it is about over 50 years that sergiu Celidiache accompagnies my life and even today still blowing my mind ... he is one of the very few who reached something in his life which makes life interesting to live !
My dad was also....a genius . I gotta say....he also had a real heart for others; he was stern yet kind hearted....he totally brought the very best out in people. He had an ego totally....yet....these types knowwwww who they are and what they bring. Those who see it negatively ARE NOT LETTING THE MUSIC PLAY AS IT IS , AS IT SHOULD, AND AS .IT. WILL.
In one of the documentaries made about him, one musician says, "He never thought of himself, only of others." Then there is a cut to another (more famous) musician who says, "He never thought of others, only of himself." Probably like all geniuses he was full of contradictions.
@@bikerpaul68 like all geniuses, greatness is within them .they know it also, so....sometimes they just spell it out 😂....how cold the earth grows as these touchstones of decency and discipline for love life and art , leave us ❤️
How can anyone really dislike that??? It's such precious lesson, this is true learning of the music away from the cold (sometimes stupid) academic cage. "Let the music happen". You wouldn't hear that in school ever.
Celibidache hears things that even the professionals do not perceive, he really knows how the piece goes. This is why everyone is so utterly fascinated under his leadership. Lucky for them that he is insistent without being domineering, and even has a gentleness and kindness that encourages their best effort. Ultimately he just wants to take everyone, performers and audience to that wonderful musical place where he resides.
Amazing video. The explanation at 16:20 is really something I was not expecting to find in a UA-cam video. I had already read about his point of view about recording concerts, but this explanation is pure gold. He points out to the dehumanization due to the mechanization of things. There is a reason why we gather at concert halls to listen to concerts, not everything can be achieved from our electronic devices. Even if society ends up enjoying everything in a VR headset, nothing will ever substitute all that implies human contact.
Sergiu Celibidache was a polyglot. He spoke: romanian, his mother tongue, english, german, french, spanish and italian. He has advanced studies in mathematics (!!!), philosophies and sure in music at prestigious Hochschule für Musik Hanns Eisler Berlin in Berlin. He was a genius, one of the greatest Romanians which I know, and I know pretty well because I am from Romania.
I just discovered Celibidache recently. I am listening to everything I can find from him. Interviews, music.. An incredible human being. I'm learning so much...
@@NikoHL Yes my friend, an incredible human being. With studies in mathematics, philosophies, piano, conductor, polyglot. Just check this out how he spoke all this languages: at top level! Here in Romania just started filming a movie about hos life with John Malkovich in the main role. The movie's name is ''The yellow tie'', so check in future to see this movie. John Malkovich is also an amazing movie actor.
It is simply amazing how he reaches in to the hearts and minds of the musicians and withdraws the music, without compromise, but without Arrogance. And he does this without tearing down, but always building up and encouraging the performers. And always smiling, except when the Horns are AWOL. They justly received a “Namaste” scowl! Thank you for the production of this documentary!
Celibidache was the first one at Munich open rehearsals to the public. I believe, today he would be glad to spread his rehearsals via internet live stream, too, to teach 'What is music' to world.
Probably not. Not because he didn't like to share, but because he believed that a microfone can't register all of the detail within music. He often refused to record his representations because of this belief. He was a perfectionist, and he wouldn't likely want to share something that he believed inferior to the actual thing you can hear live, by being present.
He also believed that music is not made during rehearsals, only during concerts, rehearsals is the process of logically organizing the elements, but the music is only experienced when the post rehearsal piece is played through without interruption. So I think he would broadcast his rehearsals via internet.
It was UTTERLY enjoyable to see and to hear what this Magician was doing with this music and how masterfully he can get what he really desires! FANTASTIC video! Thank you very much!
La philosophe de la musique, de l'interprétation et de la direction d'orchestre au siècle dernier, et peut-être longtemps.. le grand Celibidache ❤❤ l’honneur à lui
Thank you so much for posting this. It is so inspiring. HE is so inspiring. Fantastic singers, chorus and orchestra. THIS is what music is all about and how it should be made.
Love Celibidache's connection with Krishna Murti, whole thing brought me to tears..... Anyone who listens to this...is changed from inside out! Thank you!
Thanks a lot for posting it! I had lost hope that I will see it again in its entirety. His rehearsals were so illuminating! And this film is the best homage to Celibidache's memory.
Bellissimo...credo che lo ascolterò molte volte...Il Maestro Celibidache era molto simpatico oltre che un grande direttore,e questo aiuta molto a sopportare la fatica delle prove...un po' la conosco,,, però poi la soddisfazione e' grande... Grazie a chi ha messo on line questa meraviglia...peccato per i sottotitoli,tremendi...
Duo DiCesareTempera Thank you so much for sharing this moving video. I, who am a rank amateur when it comes to music, learned from this. I know I will be replaying and learning even more in the future.
There is an important distinction made at 38:17.Celibidache educates people in how to sing, understand and enjoy music.What an interesting comment coming from an experienced chorister!! You'd think a chorister would have already cottoned on to such basic elements by this time. This, to my mind, is where genius lies in the field of music (as the lady points out). Celibidache's approach to music hits a target that nobody else can see. Thus, next time you see a 5 year old playing Flight of the Bumblebee on the piano, this is just an example of talent.It is not genius. The 5 year old may not have viewed the music from a completely original direction.
F* ck the critics. What do they know? It all comes down to what effect the performance has on the audience / listener. His insistence on long rehearsals really paid off in everything he conducted. His Bruckner for example is just unbeatable for tempi and individual instrumental sound. The critics are all blinkered because they only accept what they personally believe a piece of music should sound like to their own personal preference. In nearly 65 years of attending live concerts and opera performances over all of Europe i have never taken the slightest bit of notice of what the critics have to say. They are paid to criticise...that is their job.
Para mi, el mejor Director de Orquesta del siglo XX, debido a su enorme preparación, su enorme oído musical, su filosofía y su compromiso con las obras a ejecutar. Por ello, muchas veces no fue comprendido
He could speake seven lenguages very well, with a very rich vocabular: Romanian, Italian (the one he spoke better), German, French, English, Spanish and a Romanian dialect.
Regarding the recording of the music , i think he "WAS" right . Now we have far better audio technology . We can now reproduce and store (digitally) sound with a quality unimaginable at that time. And even And we can store it digitally , this mean that the recording is immune to the pass of time.
He still would have rejected it. If you listen to his explanation at 15:04, he argues that how you play a piece of music is dependent upon the prevailing acoustic environment. The tempo, the volume of various sections of the orchestra and so on all have to be adjusted in order to integrate with the acoustics of the location where you are performing. In a recording, the orchestra may play a piece to match the acoustics of the recording studio however the acoustics of your home are very different to those in the recording studio. Thus, the adaptations made for the studio will be out of place meaning the effect achieved in one environment will be lost in another. For Celibidache, this fact always made recordings inferior irrespective of how advanced the recording equipment was.
Mi dispiace ma le tecniche di registrazione non sono assolutamente migliorate con la tecnologia , la registrazione digitale è quanto di più lontano ci possa essere dai suoni reali degli strumenti , si perdono tutti gli armonici che crea un 'orchestra mentre suona , le voci sono appiattite e svuotate, prendi un disco registrato su vinile in modo analogico e prendi lo stesso rimasterizzato in digitale su cd e ascolta . il secondo sarà imbarazzante per la scarsa qualità musicale e la manipolazione assurda degi effetti sonori che sono tutti ricreati in montaggio e non corrispondono ai suoni reali degli strumenti che ascolteresti dal vivo, non un disco che ho ricomprato in cd aveva una qualità minimamente paragonabile al vinile.
Three factors are there concerning Phenomenology of everything: space, time and person. So Celibidache's Philosophy is a multi-dimensional one, very subtle, each element is important, so almost no one can catch up with him, a highly elevated person , perhaps only one in a century, not even Furtwaengler can reach his level.
I always had problems understanding what a conductor who spoke broken English meant, or wanted. There's a lot of guessing involved. Sometimes you guess wrong - and they are not usually forgiving.
I was thinking about the same thing. A few times I didn't understand what he meant but I am not a musician and I thought that the musicians somehow did understand.
WHO gives a damn what the critics said? No one remembers who they were - but here we all are listening to this divine music-making 37 years later. He is magic. He is simply magic. I first got to know the Fauré as a boy soprano almost 60 years ago. I have loved it ever since. I have been rehearsal pianist for amateur choirs, BUT in all my dreams I couldn't imagine such wonderful singing as Celibidache gets from that choir. I find myself singing along as if Celibidache is drawing the music out of me. The man was a magician.
"The critic is someone who stubbornly seeks a bed in someone else's home." (Léon Bloy)
@@SereneJudo If he didn't make any recordings, Jim,, how come we can listen to him on UA-cam? Perhaps your comment would be more intelligent if you distinguished between criticism such as Eric Blom's famous description in Grove 1954, that Rachmaninoff's music is" montonous", and the creative criticism of a student by a teacher in a masterclass.
@@keybawd4023 you can also get the Munich years box set 40 cds over several decades . he does not make music he lets it happen !
We have all read what the critics thought of Madam Butterfly or Carmen at their respective first performances. Also how Rachmaninov's 1st Symphony was trashed . It has since turned out to be accepted as a real gem , and quite rightly so. This can be said of so many works that the critics slated at first. They are paid to criticise ( find fault ) .
@kEYBAWD Thank you for this wonderful comment!
"the question is not to be on time - you create the time ,because there is no time" i would love to meet this man.
😢me too❤
I am an old man and it is about over 50 years that sergiu Celidiache accompagnies my life and even today still blowing my mind ... he is one of the very few who reached something in his life which makes life interesting to live !
"I have a special pleasure to find myself in yourself" They say he had a huge ego, but I don't see that here, only a huge heart
My dad was also....a genius . I gotta say....he also had a real heart for others; he was stern yet kind hearted....he totally brought the very best out in people. He had an ego totally....yet....these types knowwwww who they are and what they bring. Those who see it negatively ARE NOT LETTING THE MUSIC PLAY AS IT IS , AS IT SHOULD, AND AS .IT. WILL.
In one of the documentaries made about him, one musician says, "He never thought of himself, only of others." Then there is a cut to another (more famous) musician who says, "He never thought of others, only of himself." Probably like all geniuses he was full of contradictions.
@@bikerpaul68 like all geniuses, greatness is within them .they know it also, so....sometimes they just spell it out 😂....how cold the earth grows as these touchstones of decency and discipline for love life and art , leave us ❤️
Absolutely!
how can you not play your whole heart out with this mentor conducting in front of you
How can anyone really dislike that??? It's such precious lesson, this is true learning of the music away from the cold (sometimes stupid) academic cage. "Let the music happen". You wouldn't hear that in school ever.
Sat spellbound for the full hour. At times I even had a tear in the corner of my eye. This is what music is all about.
One of the greatest minds on the 20th Century.
Celibidache hears things that even the professionals do not perceive, he really knows how the piece goes. This is why everyone is so utterly fascinated under his leadership. Lucky for them that he is insistent without being domineering, and even has a gentleness and kindness that encourages their best effort. Ultimately he just wants to take everyone, performers and audience to that wonderful musical place where he resides.
❤😊🙏🏼🛐😌
Amazing video. The explanation at 16:20 is really something I was not expecting to find in a UA-cam video. I had already read about his point of view about recording concerts, but this explanation is pure gold. He points out to the dehumanization due to the mechanization of things. There is a reason why we gather at concert halls to listen to concerts, not everything can be achieved from our electronic devices. Even if society ends up enjoying everything in a VR headset, nothing will ever substitute all that implies human contact.
Sergiu Celibidache was a polyglot. He spoke: romanian, his mother tongue, english, german, french, spanish and italian. He has advanced studies in mathematics (!!!), philosophies and sure in music at prestigious Hochschule für Musik Hanns Eisler Berlin in Berlin. He was a genius, one of the greatest Romanians which I know, and I know pretty well because I am from Romania.
Well, there hasn't been any Hanns-Eisler-Hochschule in Berlin during Celibidache's study time.
I just discovered Celibidache recently. I am listening to everything I can find from him. Interviews, music.. An incredible human being. I'm learning so much...
@@NikoHL Yes my friend, an incredible human being. With studies in mathematics, philosophies, piano, conductor, polyglot. Just check this out how he spoke all this languages: at top level! Here in Romania just started filming a movie about hos life with John Malkovich in the main role. The movie's name is ''The yellow tie'', so check in future to see this movie. John Malkovich is also an amazing movie actor.
While these are interesting facts, the man simply creates the most fascinating music there is.
I vividly remember watching this programme when it was first broadcast nearly 40 years ago. It was fascinating then and it still is.
One of a kind , his ears and his brain something marvelous! May God keep you in His hand Maestro!
It is simply amazing how he reaches in to the hearts and minds of the musicians and withdraws the music, without compromise, but without Arrogance. And he does this without tearing down, but always building up and encouraging the performers. And always smiling, except when the Horns are AWOL. They justly received a “Namaste” scowl! Thank you for the production of this documentary!
După ce că a fost un geniu,plin de talent,care a dat atâta bucurie oamenilor,mai era și o frumusețe de bărbat!!! Of,of,!!🌷🌷💜🌷🌷
Celibidache was the first one at Munich open rehearsals to the public. I believe, today he would be glad to spread his rehearsals via internet live stream, too, to teach 'What is music' to world.
pega17pl He loved rehearsals.
Probably not. Not because he didn't like to share, but because he believed that a microfone can't register all of the detail within music. He often refused to record his representations because of this belief. He was a perfectionist, and he wouldn't likely want to share something that he believed inferior to the actual thing you can hear live, by being present.
He also believed that music is not made during rehearsals, only during concerts, rehearsals is the process of logically organizing the elements, but the music is only experienced when the post rehearsal piece is played through without interruption. So I think he would broadcast his rehearsals via internet.
@@SereneJudo as it should be. Hey man, get . There. Noone can do it for you type thing....
It was UTTERLY enjoyable to see and to hear what this Magician was doing with this music and how masterfully he can get what he really desires! FANTASTIC video! Thank you very much!
La philosophe de la musique, de l'interprétation et de la direction d'orchestre au siècle dernier, et peut-être longtemps.. le grand Celibidache ❤❤ l’honneur à lui
Beautiful and moving. A true maestro of music..
What a fantastic rehearsal, what an incredible lesson of music and poetry in the music! A Grande Maestro indeed.
This is by far the best version of "Sanctus" I've ever heard.
34:25 I think the pianist has had the best birthday wishes of his entire life.
pure genius
What an amazing voice that guy has! Wow!
Thank you so much for posting this. It is so inspiring. HE is so inspiring. Fantastic singers, chorus and orchestra. THIS is what music is all about and how it should be made.
Love Celibidache's connection with Krishna Murti, whole thing brought me to tears..... Anyone who listens to this...is changed from inside out! Thank you!
It's so good to see this. Every word, every movement of the man is him celebrating the music with all the joy and passion he can muster. Epic.
This is absolutely fantastic....
Una umanità incredibile.....
Veramente una bella persona!
È stato un grande piacere guardare ed ascoltare questo video
A hug from Celibidache, now that's rich!
¡ que hombre excepcional fue este insigne personaje.-Tuve la suerte de verlo dirigir en Santiago, hace 65 años!
Todos aprendemos del maestro Celibidache. Bellísimo Vídeo!!!! ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Ah, one of the most important rehearsal techniques mastered by a master, indeed. Don't sing for the conductor...sing TO the conductor. Bravissimo!
THANK YOU duo diCesare Tempera for having posted this rare and ever so valuable document
it's our pleasure to share Celibidache's genious
Great documentary. I love all that...
Thanks a lot for posting it! I had lost hope that I will see it again in its entirety. His rehearsals were so illuminating! And this film is the best homage to Celibidache's memory.
LOVE THE MAN!!!
...and of course his fabulous music making!
Bellissimo...credo che lo ascolterò molte volte...Il Maestro Celibidache era molto simpatico oltre che un grande direttore,e questo aiuta molto a sopportare la fatica delle prove...un po' la conosco,,, però poi la soddisfazione e' grande... Grazie a chi ha messo on line questa meraviglia...peccato per i sottotitoli,tremendi...
I am speechless!
Duo DiCesareTempera
Thank you so much for sharing this moving video. I, who am a rank amateur when it comes to music, learned from this. I know I will be replaying and learning even more in the future.
I love this guy.
Fascinating. The rehearsal pianist was probably "dans ses petits souliers" that day !
Thank you very much for this 🙏
A critic is a new born, they hopefully will learn one day. When they do wake up they will enjoy this sublime sound also.
Quelle chance de contempler le Grand Celibidache
Magnifique.
Superiore a qualsiasi altro direttore orchestrale visto sin ora, semplicemente stupendo favoloso
Grandissimo! Però anche Barenboim e Bernstein...
Superb
Music aside , i am amazed that Celibidache spoke romanian(native),german ,french,italian ,english
Spoke he did, dar cu un inconfundabil accent romanesc... . :-)
Spanish...
when ure a genius and musician/conductor at his level I think it’s a must to learn all these essential languages
Dan Papazoglu And he studied Maths, and Philosophy too.
he got Doctorate in maths, music and music!!!
Фантастичен маестро Серджиу Чебилидаке!!!
There is an important distinction made at 38:17.Celibidache educates people in how to sing, understand and enjoy music.What an interesting comment coming from an experienced chorister!! You'd think a chorister would have already cottoned on to such basic elements by this time. This, to my mind, is where genius lies in the field of music (as the lady points out). Celibidache's approach to music hits a target that nobody else can see. Thus, next time you see a 5 year old playing Flight of the Bumblebee on the piano, this is just an example of talent.It is not genius. The 5 year old may not have viewed the music from a completely original direction.
F* ck the critics. What do they know? It all comes down to what effect the performance has on the audience / listener. His insistence on long rehearsals really paid off in everything he conducted. His Bruckner for example is just unbeatable for tempi and individual instrumental sound. The critics are all blinkered because they only accept what they personally believe a piece of music should sound like to their own personal preference. In nearly 65 years of attending live concerts and opera performances over all of Europe i have never taken the slightest bit of notice of what the critics have to say. They are paid to criticise...that is their job.
Apreciei muito e agradeço as legendas, ainda que em italiano.
In paradisum🌟🌟🌟🌟
Para mi, el mejor Director de Orquesta del siglo XX, debido a su enorme preparación, su enorme oído musical, su filosofía y su compromiso con las obras a ejecutar. Por ello, muchas veces no fue comprendido
yes, the best conductor ever
Sergiu Selibidache el más grande!❤
Divine...he was the best!
spesso lo riguardo...e mi emoziona come la prima volta....
wow the sanctus is fast and the 'tremens' is slow, and they are both awesome...
libera me... what a incredible work !!!!
MARAVILLA PURA DE DIRECCION
Thank you for sharing this!
Tocando el cielo con el Maestro Celibidache.
the chorist woman who speaks at cca minute 38 has hit it: Celibidache: a musical, regisseurial and pedagogical GENIUS - INDDEED.
Que belleza! El “Sanctus más hermoso que se ha escrito! Y que directorazo!
I love him too.
True musician!
Genius!
53:29 - I love him.
skarioffszky my god...What a man...
❤MAESTRO❤🙏🏼🛐😌
Wunderbar!
Max, listen to this too!
ua-cam.com/video/9MWrxAikm3k/v-deo.html
Gloria 😊
a GENIUS, no doubt ! Viva Ginta Latina !
gwynne howell bass. The best bass we ever had and much appreciated by Celibidache. No higher praise.
The horns were in the pub, of course.
SEI GRANDE GRANDE GRANDE COME TE SEI GRANDE SOLAMENTE TU (PURTROPPO)
"SEI GRANDE GRANDE GRANDE COME TE SEI GRANDE SOLAMENTE TU (PURTROPPO)" #ytmostidioticcomments
Incidently its good to Richard Baker again
Bernstein,Celibidache, Karajan,Kleiber. Only them on Olympus!
Where's Gergiev mate lol?
@@chrisnguyen6346 Gergiev lol
Gênio
Eh si,era un genio. Amico suo Bicu Pop lo ripeteva spesso
On top of all that genius.... how many foreign languages did this man speak??
He could speake seven lenguages very well, with a very rich vocabular: Romanian, Italian (the one he spoke better), German, French, English, Spanish and a Romanian dialect.
@Robert Lee, Countertenor No se olviden del español.
@@antoninodemilio5814 Yiddish too ? Greek ?
@@antoninodemilio5814 Japanese ?
Мерси!
Es-ce possible d’avoir une traduction en français ? Svp
35,00. In paradisum
Vicissitudes are the lot of man .
How mutable is the world ！
Life is full of vicissitudes
😇🥰👍👋👋👋
Who is the baritone that appears around 26:00?
Je me pose aussi la question. Quelqu'un sait-il ?
Gwynne Howell
That is a bass.
@@mackinkorea yes it is and it is Howell
47.57-48.46 Something about cutting the atmosphere with a knife.
6:05
Regarding the recording of the music , i think he "WAS" right . Now we have far better audio technology . We can now reproduce and store (digitally) sound with a quality unimaginable at that time. And even And we can store it digitally , this mean that the recording is immune to the pass of time.
He still would have rejected it. If you listen to his explanation at 15:04, he argues that how you play a piece of music is dependent upon the prevailing acoustic environment. The tempo, the volume of various sections of the orchestra and so on all have to be adjusted in order to integrate with the acoustics of the location where you are performing.
In a recording, the orchestra may play a piece to match the acoustics of the recording studio however the acoustics of your home are very different to those in the recording studio. Thus, the adaptations made for the studio will be out of place meaning the effect achieved in one environment will be lost in another. For Celibidache, this fact always made recordings inferior irrespective of how advanced the recording equipment was.
Mi dispiace ma le tecniche di registrazione non sono assolutamente migliorate con la tecnologia , la registrazione digitale è quanto di più lontano ci possa essere dai suoni reali degli strumenti , si perdono tutti gli armonici che crea un 'orchestra mentre suona , le voci sono appiattite e svuotate, prendi un disco registrato su vinile in modo analogico e prendi lo stesso rimasterizzato in digitale su cd e ascolta . il secondo sarà imbarazzante per la scarsa qualità musicale e la manipolazione assurda degi effetti sonori che sono tutti ricreati in montaggio e non corrispondono ai suoni reali degli strumenti che ascolteresti dal vivo, non un disco che ho ricomprato in cd aveva una qualità minimamente paragonabile al vinile.
Three factors are there concerning Phenomenology of everything: space, time and person. So Celibidache's Philosophy is a multi-dimensional one, very subtle, each element is important, so almost no one can catch up with him, a highly elevated person , perhaps only one in a century, not even Furtwaengler can reach his level.
47:53
34:24 ❤
Where are the horns????!!
48:17
What's the name of the Baritone?
I always had problems understanding what a conductor who spoke broken English meant, or wanted. There's a lot of guessing involved. Sometimes you guess wrong - and they are not usually forgiving.
I was thinking about the same thing. A few times I didn't understand what he meant but I am not a musician and I thought that the musicians somehow did understand.
43,00 sanctus
Is that Richard Hickox at 24:38?
Alder Alcides y Marilina deberías de estar ahi
申し訳ございませんが、どなたかこの指導のコメントを日本語にしていただけないでしょうか。