The gas masks thing was a legitimate tactic back then- a DEVGRU guy whose career began in the 80's at Tactical Hyve talks about how they did a lot of training with CS based on the SAS's tactics. The idea was that the enemy likely hadn't been exposed to CS gas before and that would give an advantage to the assault team who was equipped with gas masks. There was an issue where the CS gas grenades did start fires, and the tactic has since gone out of style as Tyler mentioned. Because the mask eliminated the cheek weld on their MP5s, the SAS trained to use the hot spot on their flashlight to aim (kind of like how lasers are used today), and used pushing tension in a 3-point sling instead of shouldering the stock.
I read a book by one of those old school SAS guys who said they'd shoot cans off eachothers shoulders using that method. In another story where they ran shoot/no shoot CQB; they had Margaret Thatcher stand in instead of a hostage cutout and they shot a target right beside her head with live ammunition
I like how Tyler pauses before he speaks. It’s actually a sign of a wise Individual. He’s calm and collected before giving information. Glad to have him back on the show!
100%, notice how you see that common quality amongst Unit guy who are now retired and speak. There is a reason they don't choose just physical studs but the "right" guys.
gas masks were used back then and both the 22 boys and our Australian SASR and CDO units still train with masks and it's part of our advanced CQB qualification training .... pushing CS was a big thing back in the 80s and 90s but the main reason for this mission was that the Iranian terrorist group was believed capable of using chem/biological agents
Regarding the excellent point at 19:15, it's long been British policy that if any life is lost or expected to be taken in a hostage situation, that's when special forces are sent in. Thatcher employed this to maximum effect, not only in Operation Nimrod, but also in Northern Ireland. Of course, very little was known by anyone about special forces at the time, so the terrorists didn't know how badly they messed up or what they would be dealing with when they killed a hostage. And just to add to the video, the storming of the embassy occurred on a bank holiday weekend, and right in the middle of the Embassy World Snooker Championship final on the BBC, which was watched by a huge television audience in the UK those days. To an American , it would be like the Superbowl coverage being interrupted to go live to an embassy getting stormed by Delta Force, when no-one knew what Delta Force was.
@@TimA-in3lx That must have been something. In my case, I was packed off to my grandparents for the weekend, and they always watched the snooker so I saw the same thing. It was an exciting day for an 8 year old. It still amuses me that the BBC received a bunch of complaints for interrupting the snooker lol.
Obviously GWOT changed Policing in the UK as firearms historically hadn’t been too big an issue over here. UK special forces still have a rotational squadron on standby all the time but there are 11 regional Police counter terrorist units as well(trained by the SF). UK is about the size of Oregon. Contrary to popular belief the UK Police do have a lot of armed officers, not your average beat cops but every force do have armed response vehicles on every shift, they’re always double crewed and carry mainly H&K and SIG carbines.
The film is based on rusty firmin’s memoir , he was the youngest section leader at the time in the regiment . Also John mcaleese was in his team , may he rest in peace .
Tyler is such a stud and sweetheart for doing all these podcasts and interviews. His stories are a little bit of everything but mostly awesome also his sound effects are just magnificent
Two operatives fired CS in via the front windows and CS was utilised on the Op hence the S6 respirators, I used one in my NBC training as a recruit and the were horrible things!! The lens misted up quick and tricks of using potato juice on the lenses helped a bit. Good to see you back on Tyler!!! You're looking so much healthier than when you were on the SRS...so good to see that life is good and being kind to you!!
Operation Nimrod comes up time to time when I'm studying military history. I first learned about it a long time ago when reading a book written by a Delta operator. It inspired me to want to join the army and do that! 😅
@@R5GT-TURBO yes the original was with Lewis Collins. Interesting as real life action guy. Played Bodie from The Professionals, for that era one of the coolest characters on TV. Almost became a drummer for the Beatles, when Pete best dropped out. He was a legit member of a parachute regiment. High level martial artist and weapons. Apparently got knocked back from Territorial SAS because he was too well known. Literally the first movie I ordered on CD back in the day. Edit: the movie has Aussie Judy Davis. She was kinda popular here back home too.
Rusty Firmin (who is the main SAS member played by Jamie Bell in the movie) in his books discuss the Gas Masks. One, it’s practical use in training was reduce risk of lead poisoning, and in real world, CS and smoke. Second was psychological against any terrorist. The mask makes them slightly less human looking and keep their identities hidden adding to mental hesitation, giving them the edge.
Rusty firmin one of the sas operators that was part of this operation was a advisor to this film, he actually forgot his gloves as they entered the embassy you can see his hands, he is actually known as Rusty firmin the man with no gloves
I've interviewed him, he said he normally put his gloves down his body armour to keep them handy but put them down to the side and they had to rush out.
@@bertalach not for secrecy balaclava's would do that. It was a more a case of better to have and not need that not have and need. You where right about the intimidation factor though, combined with the Dark Blue ( Black Came later ) Coveralls they look very intimidating.
Tyler is Awesome! I’m rewatching Seal Team right now. On season 4, can’t wait for season 7. Would be awesome to get Tyler to talk a little bit about the upcoming season.
There us a story of SAS training, which had Margaret Thatcher the Prime Minister at the time, st in with 2 bodyguards. She wasn't watching from the side, she was playing the hostage along with her bodyguards. When the SAS came in shooting, the 2 bodyguards hit the deck, while Thatcher just sat there unfazed
There’s another one of her sitting down watch the report on TV after the operation and the a trooper sat behind her her not knowing who she was telling her to move her F’n head out the way she then turned around and apologised
That's a true story she didn't think they needed the budget increase so they invited her out to see what they did after that demonstration they got the budget
You guys should bear in mind that 50 troopers assaulted that building, as I recall, three teams - Roof skylight with distraction ED, front breeching, and rear breeching - all acting simultaneously, methodical clearing of rooms and floors...the Reg prides itself on self discipline with individual descision making in contact...If you are not sure - make sure, using whatever means are required. Resperators were used simply to allow the option of using whatever was available and effective...gives you an edge.
That raid did a lot for Army recruitment I can tell you :) I know, I was one. I never reached their level, but knowing those guys were around was inspiring. BTW- Those S6 respirators were tough bits of kit to play in. The S8, which popped up later could take 2 canisters and had better visibility. Still hot and sweaty though ;) We all had them on our webbing constantly during my time in BAOR. We were drilled all the time to operate in them. Great video BTW:)
My dad was in the sas. I asked him the question about the gas masks (when he was still alive). The masks had blacked out lenses because of flash bangs and they used cs gas, it also had psychological effect on the enemy same as a balaclava. He wasn't part of the Iranian embassy siege but I believe he was called on standby at the time.
This was the mission that really brought the SAS into the mainstream awareness in the UK. Since then they've become legendary, but prior to 1980 they enjoyed a level of mystique and anonymity that probably was beneficial to much of their work. It also gave the public the false impression that the SAS was primarily about door kicking missions like this, which really is a very small part of what they're expected to do. Selection involves a lot of basic infantry skills like land nav, marching over difficult terrain with a big pack and that kind of thing.
I watched part of a documentary about the embassy siege and part of it yes they did use gas, apparently something went wrong with one of the soldiers gas mask or it came off during the operation, and another SAS soldier said he went through the room and proceeded on with the hostage rescue operation.
I remember when this happened. Interviews with the rescued hostages, said the SAS team took them by the shoulders and feet and tossed the hostages one by one to move them out.
A few years back your brothers in arms made a very good friend of mine the safest dude in Afghanistan working on your choppers. Much love mates appreciate your service and the entertainment
The main reason for hiding your ID is because in 1980 the troubles in Ireland were at a peak and because of their missions in Ireland anominity was essential.
It certainly used to be that the squadron on CT duties at that time trained all day in respirators it was standard kit. Police teams in the UK also do it. Also senior MPs and people joining the Royals will go through counter terrorism drills including an opportunity to sit in the killing house floor. Lady Diana was a " hostage " as was Margaret Thatcher
9:20 Since the creation of the CTSFO, SAS has been quite inactive for domestic issues. CTSFO was the response to the use of military units for domestic use.
It would be interesting to learn when jurisdiction of incidents automatically passes from CTSFO to SAS - I assume CBRN threat, VIP elements, foreign military elements...
London Bridge terrorist attack I was about a mile away just coming out of a blues bar and about to head home in a place called Weybridge that’s in the suburbs. Heading to the train station at Waterloo when it all kicked off. Most surreal moment in my life being caught up as a civilian in that sort of attack. It felt like every single law enforcement was out en force and they were not messing around. Very scary vibe but amazing to have everyone helping each other out. My friend Tony and I ended up being barricaded in an Irish pub nearby for ages until armed police came and said we can move.
Wow, I remember that. The footage of that bloke about to be knifed by one of the terrorists and then the police rocked up and slotted him was wild. It must have been crazy taking cover with your mate in the pub. Which one was it by the way?
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Talking of the SAS doing internal counter terror operations. Two years ago, there were helicopters flying around Liverpool, my partner and her Dad didn't believe me when I told them that they were the "Blue Thunder" helicopters of the SAS. Articles then pop up with pictures of the SAS training in Liverpool and Manchester, doing infil, clearing drills, and exfil training, in civilian areas.
Thanks again for another breakdown. And THANK YOU SO MUCH for recommending your book. I just finished it on audible and wow what a story. Thank you for helping me with your story. 5 ⭐️ s
The first thing they do, when they arrive on scene, is to prepare an Immediate Action Plan. Once that has been prepared, they set about preparing a Detailed Assault Plan. If the SHTF before the DAP is finalised, they activate the IAP.
@@alemgasIt means that he is not pointing out how retarded our politicians are and that even the two of the Spear warfighters are forced to beg them for their budgets.
You guys should check out the film “The Final Option” released in 1982. Loosely based on this embassy siege and made with technical assistance from the SAS who also performed the helicopter insertion for the film. A bit dated but good entertainment.
Pretty sure the lenses filters on the gas mask offerd some protection to the flash bangs, enabling them to enter a room as the bang goes off rather than just after
At the time the SAS CRW used them most of the time. At that time it was the S6 respirator which actually had a bigger lens and was not circular, now they have the S10 which is circular. It can also be fitted with filters to downplay and flash and thus temporary loss of vision. Respirators have many uses, they can hide their identity better, eliminate smoke or cs gas. We used to have to train on the S6 in rooms that were filled with cs gas, you then took it off for 10 seconds and felt the stinging and burn, its not only inhaling it, but it gets in your nose and eyes. Most of the time you do not wear them but you still have to be able to use them and operate with them.
Gas masks were used as both CS gas can be used and smoke from flash bangs can fill small spaces and inhibit your breathing. It also has a dramatic effect on your enemy.
Been waiting for this reaction. Loved seeing both of you guys giving your reactions. "the great raid" would be a great one to review too. True story about rangers rescuing POWs in WW2
They did gas the embassy on the actual Nimrod operation, you can ask Rusty who actually was one of the Nimrod guys and an, advisor on the 6 Day movie as well as depicted in the movie too as one of the main characters.
Apparently they made they’re flash bangs with CS gas in them, Hence why they used the respirator, another fact they had special lens filters so that they were not blinded by the flash bangs
“I was a 100% confident before a hit”, I wonder how much of that derives from Paddy Mayne’s philosophy on training, right back in the old L Det days in North Africa.
Wore the Gas rigs for concealment, also in this it was due to the fact they knew there would be smoke from the explosions they set off and the fires in the building.
What do patrol officers carry with them in their car? I Most movies and series you see them having shotguns in the boot but in some you even see them pull out an un-modded M-16 (or something similar). Can regular cops in US have automatic guns in their cars or does this differ between states?
Look up the Sniper kill in Fla last week, shot the bad guy through a computer monitor. Was shocked me more was the sniper gun was rested on a shoulder of another swat member. "The suspect was threatening two hostages with a knife when a Lee County Sheriff’s Office SWAT officer fired a single shot through a computer monitor, killing him"
They used gas masks in the killing house because they used gas, Tommy Tobin had to remove his S6 during the assault & threw up several times, John Mac said his S6 didn't fit correctly and he threw up in his mask also.
You Should react to a recent show about the SAS called Rogue Heroes. It's about the formation of the SAS during WW2. I thought it was quite entertaining.
I used to know a card trick where Jacks would go on the bottom, on the top and in the middle! after shuffling they all ended up in the middle! this was exactly what they did! entry from below cleared! entry from above cleared and the abseiling SAS went straight through the middle and all cleared! minimal casualties! watched it live! it was wild
They used CS and CR gas. In CS gas cannisters and also in the flash bangs. I think this was the one that set the forward thinking for future ops. I imagine the view at that time was using CS gas had more upside than downside. Experience over time has shown this isn't the case. And I would imagine that given hindsight the OC of B Squadron would probably not have used it during this Op.
I've read they used Avon S12 gas masks because of two reasons:Tear gas option was on the table at the beginning, but was discarded when the team was already kitted up. The other reason was they knew TV was going to be present and was a way to preserve their anonimity. There's a funny story running around that says they changed into civilian clothes after the op and were chilling at a nearby pub. The press literally passed by them and they were none the wiser. I don't know if it's a true story but it sounds like something the SAS would do.
CS gas was never off the table, it was fired in by two team members at the front of the building. John Mcalease talked about his gas mask slipping and him puking from the CS gas during the operation
Also, that's not a true story about the civilian clothes. After the operation hey went back to the barracks, were visited by Margret Thatcher and her husband, packed up and went back to Hereford as they were still on QRF and had to be ready to head to another incident at a couple of hours notice if one happened. There are multiple books by members of the team discussing everything that happened, and none discuss chilling at the pub.
They set fire to her hair by accident 🤣 She then turned up in public with a new haircut and the media/fashion world went how cool does she look not knowing why she had a hair cut. True story.
So was Thatcher and her bodyguard. Thatcher never moved, her bodyguard shat himself and dived under the table. Thatcher scolded him at the time and later fired him.
There was CS used on the raid. One of them had their gas mask catch on fire so he did the op without it and killed two terrorists whilst under the effects of CS. They were also used as an intimidation factor and to conceal identity. I believe one of the guys on the op said they had these different kind of flashbangs made which had the CS in them. The downside of them is they had a tendency to set things on fire, hence the gas mask and also the curtains catching on fire which severely burned the legs of one of the operators who’s rope got caught whilst rappelling. He also continued on with the mission. A lot of them shot using sling tension and had those big lights zeroed to the weapon. At the end of the op, a couple of the guys tried to take the surviving terrorist back into the embassy to kill him but were encouraged not to by some of the other guys.
Hey I really want to thank you both for sharing your experience in your last video together, I was struggling with the idea that I wasnt good enought since my mandatory sevice just a year before the pamdemic, so for a long time I got myself into random stuff just to try to feel ok, I felt like I needed to get in the military to be enought, until one nigth eight months ago that I was getting ready for a 5k run that I didnt even wanna be in when I saw your video with Tyler and really touched me, then I just get myself in bed ready to actually enjoy the run more than just to try to prove myself something. Thanks a lot and I know that you helped other men there with the same insecurity. God bless. By the way Buck, someone is looking more buff latelly💪🏼😎
From what I could find the SAS didn't wear das masks all the time and the reason they wore it for Operation Nimrod was because they had flashbangs and CS gas
@declanshanahan3888 I never claimed I did serve I just looked up why the SAS wore gas masks and this is what I found. If you want to know specifically I found it on a Reddit post, not the best source admittedly but considering most of the other sites I looked at didn't mention anything or were just Wikipedia copies(which also didn't mention anything) Reddit was the only thing I found that actually gave any form of information on the subject. Also why are you singling me out for? I'm not the only one in this comment section that commented on the gas masks. And just for the record I'm not one of those Stolen Valor pricks.
Very happy to see Tyler back! That last part would indicate that SEAL Team is not that accurate, cause they always seem like they do CQB so good that they can avoid taking casualties almost all the time.
It's a series my friend, clearly I can't demonstrate everything about reality, because if not, you need 20 actors in each season, even so, there have been situations where they have been injured, and even killed
I think he's talking specifically about CT/HR, they're up against the clock and there's no way to perform CQB at that speed without losing some hostages/assaulters
@@Wile_E._Wolf I think you're right, because during HR you are skipping a lot of steps/rooms etc to get to your target ASAP. I dare say - rushing. Simply because the mission is to save the hostages, and they do that in full knowledge they are risking their lives more to chance than skill for the majority of the mission.
Remember the episode where the guys had to conduct a seaborne HR and I believe they even mention they needed to skip steps if they wanted to save the hostages and ship
I assume that tier1 means you get the most high-value support, or at least are the priority for that support. The most effective gear, and the missions with the biggest, least visible impact
The green beret job honestly sounds way harder and more terrifying than any tier 1 job description. Going to war with homies you trust, people will risk anything for that. Going to war with a bunch of randos who you cant trust to load their weapon properly? Heck no
@@davidmiller1354not really, you entitled to that cag is really good and so is the sas, put two and two into the same room you wouldn’t know the difference. If you’ve worked with both you would understand
@@davidmiller1354 having conducted operations overseas alongside both units, it’s clearly obvious you have zero clue what you’re on about, pal. Pretty much most of the units at JSOC are indistinguishable from one another once the armour is on. The drills are shared, most of the weapons systems are identical, MOE are pretty identical as are target sets. What I will say is that the UKSF (SAS/SBS) has a wider mission set due to being able to operate within the borders of the UK unlike their American counterparts due to posse comitas. Although that’s not to say that the US SOF wouldn’t do a sterling job if they were able to operate within the CONUS.
On a side note; Margaret Thatcher was prime minister at the time and told the police they have control of the scene until the Palestinian hostage takers killed a hostage, after that she gave the SAS control of the situation.
Been the same ever since, police have control until you kill a hostage, then the SAS are off the leash....and all bets are off....also like the other guy said they were Iranian not Palestinian.
"SAS Iranian Embassy Siege Documentary Operation Nimrod" has interviews with the hostages, with the SAS operators. That is one of the best telling of the true story I know of. Gas masks were part of the operation because they heavily gassed the embassy as part of the attack. In the UK in 80's the UK lacked anything like SWAT teams - it was not problem we had. Since this, and with the increase in terror attacks it has grown significantly - as seen with the London Bridge/Borough Market terror attack in 2017 - the 3 attackers shot dead within 8 minuets of the alarm going out.
I am assuming you are American stating you that had SWAT. It was the 1997 North Hollywood shoot out that made you guys get SWAT. Just like you know 10+ years late and yet you claim you had it from day 1 and you always think your the first to everything. The reason we don't have SWAT is we have the SAS. The police are meant to save lives and take people into custody when that is no longer an option well hand it over to the guys who are trained to do that and let the police keep doing what they do. Less time and cost on counselling police officers.
@@GWOTKoolAid I think Fauda is just amazing. It is not as big budget as as the others but some of the scenes in it just blew my mind the first time I saw them.
The Delta operator said in their hostage rescue plans it was assumed that both some operatives and hostages would be killed. None of the SAS operatives were killed and two hostage died in the assault unfortunately. That’s so impressive.
It has been said that members of UK Gov & Royal Families are invited to "sit in" to a SAS shoot house training session when they first receive protection.
Sop in the 80s was gas everything. Snipers fired cs through windows. In terms of shooting with a respirator, they use the 3 point sling tension method with the stock of the mp5 retracted. The torch beam is focused and used as an aiming device. Respirators are worn in the killing house and live ammo is always used. Theres a famous story about margaret thatcher playing a hostage in the killing house when she was primeminister and they ised live ammo with her
Fun fact for you guys, Margaret thatcher while visiting the training of the sas, sat in as a hostage in “the killing house”, and the used live rounds then. She had some big balls
The gas masks thing was a legitimate tactic back then- a DEVGRU guy whose career began in the 80's at Tactical Hyve talks about how they did a lot of training with CS based on the SAS's tactics. The idea was that the enemy likely hadn't been exposed to CS gas before and that would give an advantage to the assault team who was equipped with gas masks. There was an issue where the CS gas grenades did start fires, and the tactic has since gone out of style as Tyler mentioned. Because the mask eliminated the cheek weld on their MP5s, the SAS trained to use the hot spot on their flashlight to aim (kind of like how lasers are used today), and used pushing tension in a 3-point sling instead of shouldering the stock.
I read a book by one of those old school SAS guys who said they'd shoot cans off eachothers shoulders using that method. In another story where they ran shoot/no shoot CQB; they had Margaret Thatcher stand in instead of a hostage cutout and they shot a target right beside her head with live ammunition
@@davidoftheforest Damn shame those guys were that accurate
@@davidoftheforestI thought it was princess Diana. Either way, what a way to show off the prowess by having VIPs in the shoot house scenarios.
Good comment! Saved me a lot of typing! And a shout out to the reply noting that they had VIPs stand in on the shoot house scenarios.
@@davidoftheforestThat drill was run with many different VIPs, some of royal blood.
I like how Tyler pauses before he speaks. It’s actually a sign of a wise Individual. He’s calm and collected before giving information. Glad to have him back on the show!
He has to be careful what he says because of opsec. He can't just blurt out secret TTPs
100%, notice how you see that common quality amongst Unit guy who are now retired and speak. There is a reason they don't choose just physical studs but the "right" guys.
Whenever Tyler comes on the show he always drops some high level knowledge
Tyler what an absolute warrior and legend, brilliant to hear him breakdown a movie..unbelievable tier 1 knowledge and experience.
WOO!!! Tyler's back!
No way. LFG
gas masks were used back then and both the 22 boys and our Australian SASR and CDO units still train with masks and it's part of our advanced CQB qualification training .... pushing CS was a big thing back in the 80s and 90s but the main reason for this mission was that the Iranian terrorist group was believed capable of using chem/biological agents
Regarding the excellent point at 19:15, it's long been British policy that if any life is lost or expected to be taken in a hostage situation, that's when special forces are sent in. Thatcher employed this to maximum effect, not only in Operation Nimrod, but also in Northern Ireland.
Of course, very little was known by anyone about special forces at the time, so the terrorists didn't know how badly they messed up or what they would be dealing with when they killed a hostage.
And just to add to the video, the storming of the embassy occurred on a bank holiday weekend, and right in the middle of the Embassy World Snooker Championship final on the BBC, which was watched by a huge television audience in the UK those days. To an American , it would be like the Superbowl coverage being interrupted to go live to an embassy getting stormed by Delta Force, when no-one knew what Delta Force was.
I was at the army apprentices college watching the snooker to hear we interrupt this with a live broadcast the rest was history
@@TimA-in3lx That must have been something. In my case, I was packed off to my grandparents for the weekend, and they always watched the snooker so I saw the same thing. It was an exciting day for an 8 year old.
It still amuses me that the BBC received a bunch of complaints for interrupting the snooker lol.
Obviously GWOT changed Policing in the UK as firearms historically hadn’t been too big an issue over here. UK special forces still have a rotational squadron on standby all the time but there are 11 regional Police counter terrorist units as well(trained by the SF). UK is about the size of Oregon.
Contrary to popular belief the UK Police do have a lot of armed officers, not your average beat cops but every force do have armed response vehicles on every shift, they’re always double crewed and carry mainly H&K and SIG carbines.
@jakenicholls9914 ...8% of UK police are trained to use firearms...
The film is based on rusty firmin’s memoir , he was the youngest section leader at the time in the regiment . Also John mcaleese was in his team , may he rest in peace .
Tyler is such a stud and sweetheart for doing all these podcasts and interviews. His stories are a little bit of everything but mostly awesome also his sound effects are just magnificent
Holy shit! I was so excited to see you react to this movie, but was blown away that you were doing it with Tyler!
Tyler definitely brings a fresh look into things. I really appreciate his input.
am happy to see you back Tyler 🎉
It was live all over British TV on the day, England actually stood still and watched the TV.. And the SAS arrived in full colour for everyone to see!
Scotland watched it, anaw.
@aussie5941I saw it in real time, it was mind blowing stuff
From guys involved, this is one of the most true to life films made
Where did Rusty find his gloves?
Two operatives fired CS in via the front windows and CS was utilised on the Op hence the S6 respirators, I used one in my NBC training as a recruit and the were horrible things!! The lens misted up quick and tricks of using potato juice on the lenses helped a bit. Good to see you back on Tyler!!! You're looking so much healthier than when you were on the SRS...so good to see that life is good and being kind to you!!
Great device to get you used to swallowing your own vomit on a speed march - didn't stop smoke from fires though
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Operation Nimrod comes up time to time when I'm studying military history. I first learned about it a long time ago when reading a book written by a Delta operator. It inspired me to want to join the army and do that! 😅
Thank you Tyler for doing the show again,
Such an awesome treat and the best way to start my Sunday
WHO DARES WINS. Excellent movie. Thank God we have men like you who are willing to go in HARMS WAY 💯🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
WDWs ALL THE WAY! Iv Seen it 30+Times. Ever since I was 7xYrs Old, in 1982.
Is that the one staring Lewis Colin's from the 80s if that's the right one yes, it's incredible. Respect my American friend 🇺🇸👍🇬🇧
@@R5GT-TURBO yes the original was with Lewis Collins. Interesting as real life action guy. Played Bodie from The Professionals, for that era one of the coolest characters on TV. Almost became a drummer for the Beatles, when Pete best dropped out. He was a legit member of a parachute regiment. High level martial artist and weapons. Apparently got knocked back from Territorial SAS because he was too well known. Literally the first movie I ordered on CD back in the day.
Edit: the movie has Aussie Judy Davis. She was kinda popular here back home too.
Rusty Firmin (who is the main SAS member played by Jamie Bell in the movie) in his books discuss the Gas Masks.
One, it’s practical use in training was reduce risk of lead poisoning, and in real world, CS and smoke.
Second was psychological against any terrorist. The mask makes them slightly less human looking and keep their identities hidden adding to mental hesitation, giving them the edge.
He left his hands exposed though lol
Rusty firmin one of the sas operators that was part of this operation was a advisor to this film, he actually forgot his gloves as they entered the embassy you can see his hands, he is actually known as Rusty firmin the man with no gloves
I've interviewed him, he said he normally put his gloves down his body armour to keep them handy but put them down to the side and they had to rush out.
Now that is a bad ass name!
The gas mask thing might have been the fact the identities of SAS were secret. And the intimidation factor!
@@bertalach not for secrecy balaclava's would do that. It was a more a case of better to have and not need that not have and need. You where right about the intimidation factor though, combined with the Dark Blue ( Black Came later ) Coveralls they look very intimidating.
Tyler is Awesome! I’m rewatching Seal Team right now. On season 4, can’t wait for season 7. Would be awesome to get Tyler to talk a little bit about the upcoming season.
🇬🇧 English fella here, Glad to have Americans like you two as an ally 🇺🇸
There us a story of SAS training, which had Margaret Thatcher the Prime Minister at the time, st in with 2 bodyguards. She wasn't watching from the side, she was playing the hostage along with her bodyguards. When the SAS came in shooting, the 2 bodyguards hit the deck, while Thatcher just sat there unfazed
There’s another one of her sitting down watch the report on TV after the operation and the a trooper sat behind her her not knowing who she was telling her to move her F’n head out the way she then turned around and apologised
same thing with Princess Anne one tough lady when a nut job tried to kidnap her at gunpoint her comment ?...Not Bloody Likely
That's a true story she didn't think they needed the budget increase so they invited her out to see what they did after that demonstration they got the budget
@@Anderson21G John Mcaleese i believe
You guys should bear in mind that 50 troopers assaulted that building, as I recall, three teams - Roof skylight with distraction ED, front breeching, and rear breeching - all acting simultaneously,
methodical clearing of rooms and floors...the Reg prides itself on self discipline with individual descision making in contact...If you are not sure - make sure, using whatever means are required.
Resperators were used simply to allow the option of using whatever was available and effective...gives you an edge.
That raid did a lot for Army recruitment I can tell you :)
I know, I was one.
I never reached their level, but knowing those guys were around was inspiring.
BTW- Those S6 respirators were tough bits of kit to play in. The S8, which popped up later could take 2 canisters and had better visibility. Still hot and sweaty though ;)
We all had them on our webbing constantly during my time in BAOR. We were drilled all the time to operate in them.
Great video BTW:)
This is great. Thoughtful, eloquent, calm - professionals talking from knowledge rather than the brash style one so often sees on UA-cam.
My dad was in the sas. I asked him the question about the gas masks (when he was still alive). The masks had blacked out lenses because of flash bangs and they used cs gas, it also had psychological effect on the enemy same as a balaclava. He wasn't part of the Iranian embassy siege but I believe he was called on standby at the time.
I’d highly recommend 9Hole Review’s video on the SAS use of the MP5
That was a great video 👍
This was the mission that really brought the SAS into the mainstream awareness in the UK. Since then they've become legendary, but prior to 1980 they enjoyed a level of mystique and anonymity that probably was beneficial to much of their work.
It also gave the public the false impression that the SAS was primarily about door kicking missions like this, which really is a very small part of what they're expected to do. Selection involves a lot of basic infantry skills like land nav, marching over difficult terrain with a big pack and that kind of thing.
I watched part of a documentary about the embassy siege and part of it yes they did use gas, apparently something went wrong with one of the soldiers gas mask or it came off during the operation, and another SAS soldier said he went through the room and proceeded on with the hostage rescue operation.
Great vid always informational
Appreciate it!
I remember when this happened. Interviews with the rescued hostages, said the SAS team took them by the shoulders and feet and tossed the hostages one by one to move them out.
looking forward to part 2. this is easily one of my most favorite episodes
Love it when you have Tyler on
well spoken and thoughtful 🍀
A few years back your brothers in arms made a very good friend of mine the safest dude in Afghanistan working on your choppers. Much love mates appreciate your service and the entertainment
The main reason for hiding your ID is because in 1980 the troubles in Ireland were at a peak and because of their missions in Ireland anominity was essential.
It certainly used to be that the squadron on CT duties at that time trained all day in respirators it was standard kit. Police teams in the UK also do it. Also senior MPs and people joining the Royals will go through counter terrorism drills including an opportunity to sit in the killing house floor. Lady Diana was a " hostage " as was Margaret Thatcher
what they don't show you in this film is that there were 50 odd SAS that entered the Embassy. This film is just based around Rusty Firmin's team
glad you guys watched it and liked it. I had a feeling it was gonna be a movie you could appreciate.
Delta and green beret review SAS 😮 thats something i wanna see ❤. Love you guys.
9:20 Since the creation of the CTSFO, SAS has been quite inactive for domestic issues. CTSFO was the response to the use of military units for domestic use.
It would be interesting to learn when jurisdiction of incidents automatically passes from CTSFO to SAS - I assume CBRN threat, VIP elements, foreign military elements...
They are still highly likely to deploy to a big incident, they just don't do the day to day CT stuff
So pumped for this ep. Been hoping you guys watch this for forever
London Bridge terrorist attack I was about a mile away just coming out of a blues bar and about to head home in a place called Weybridge that’s in the suburbs. Heading to the train station at Waterloo when it all kicked off. Most surreal moment in my life being caught up as a civilian in that sort of attack. It felt like every single law enforcement was out en force and they were not messing around. Very scary vibe but amazing to have everyone helping each other out. My friend Tony and I ended up being barricaded in an Irish pub nearby for ages until armed police came and said we can move.
Wow, I remember that. The footage of that bloke about to be knifed by one of the terrorists and then the police rocked up and slotted him was wild. It must have been crazy taking cover with your mate in the pub. Which one was it by the way?
Talking of the SAS doing internal counter terror operations.
Two years ago, there were helicopters flying around Liverpool, my partner and her Dad didn't believe me when I told them that they were the "Blue Thunder" helicopters of the SAS.
Articles then pop up with pictures of the SAS training in Liverpool and Manchester, doing infil, clearing drills, and exfil training, in civilian areas.
Thanks again for another breakdown. And THANK YOU SO MUCH for recommending your book. I just finished it on audible and wow what a story. Thank you for helping me with your story. 5 ⭐️ s
The first thing they do, when they arrive on scene, is to prepare an Immediate Action Plan.
Once that has been prepared, they set about preparing a Detailed Assault Plan.
If the SHTF before the DAP is finalised, they activate the IAP.
This film was based on the Lewis Collins film....Who Dares Wins!..Look it up and watch...it came out in the 80'S!
I enjoyed this move.
we did too
6:27 I love how diplomatic Tyler is being about Dog and Pony shows.
What does that mean?
@@alemgasIt means that he is not pointing out how retarded our politicians are and that even the two of the Spear warfighters are forced to beg them for their budgets.
You guys should check out the film “The Final Option” released in 1982. Loosely based on this embassy siege and made with technical assistance from the SAS who also performed the helicopter insertion for the film. A bit dated but good entertainment.
Pretty sure the lenses filters on the gas mask offerd some protection to the flash bangs, enabling them to enter a room as the bang goes off rather than just after
At the time the SAS CRW used them most of the time. At that time it was the S6 respirator which actually had a bigger lens and was not circular, now they have the S10 which is circular. It can also be fitted with filters to downplay and flash and thus temporary loss of vision. Respirators have many uses, they can hide their identity better, eliminate smoke or cs gas. We used to have to train on the S6 in rooms that were filled with cs gas, you then took it off for 10 seconds and felt the stinging and burn, its not only inhaling it, but it gets in your nose and eyes. Most of the time you do not wear them but you still have to be able to use them and operate with them.
Gotta love Tyler. Glad you brought home back on.
Gas masks were used as both CS gas can be used and smoke from flash bangs can fill small spaces and inhibit your breathing. It also has a dramatic effect on your enemy.
Been waiting for this reaction. Loved seeing both of you guys giving your reactions. "the great raid" would be a great one to review too. True story about rangers rescuing POWs in WW2
They did gas the embassy on the actual Nimrod operation, you can ask Rusty who actually was one of the Nimrod guys and an, advisor on the 6 Day movie as well as depicted in the movie too as one of the main characters.
Happy Father’s Day! Fitting since SAS was father unit to CAG!
The main advisor for this film was a guy who actually took part in the raid. Rusty Firmin, who is played by the guy in the van who you see his face.
Me already screaming Tyler Gray!!! At the beginning of the episode. Heck yeah 👊🏾👊🏾👊🏾.
I remember watching it happening live on tv, the snooker world championship broadcast was interrupted for it.
Apparently they made they’re flash bangs with CS gas in them, Hence why they used the respirator, another fact they had special lens filters so that they were not blinded by the flash bangs
“I was a 100% confident before a hit”, I wonder how much of that derives from Paddy Mayne’s philosophy on training, right back in the old L Det days in North Africa.
Wore the Gas rigs for concealment, also in this it was due to the fact they knew there would be smoke from the explosions they set off and the fires in the building.
What do patrol officers carry with them in their car? I Most movies and series you see them having shotguns in the boot but in some you even see them pull out an un-modded M-16 (or something similar). Can regular cops in US have automatic guns in their cars or does this differ between states?
Look up the Sniper kill in Fla last week, shot the bad guy through a computer monitor. Was shocked me more was the sniper gun was rested on a shoulder of another swat member.
"The suspect was threatening two hostages with a knife when a Lee County Sheriff’s Office SWAT officer fired a single shot through a computer monitor, killing him"
The suspect gets ‘deleted’
For anyone interested in this siege .read the new book by Ben Mcintyre called Siege published 2024..will give you all the facts
They used gas masks in the killing house because they used gas, Tommy Tobin had to remove his S6 during the assault & threw up several times, John Mac said his S6 didn't fit correctly and he threw up in his mask also.
Rather odd comment as Tommy Tobin was killed in action in 1972.
You Should react to a recent show about the SAS called Rogue Heroes. It's about the formation of the SAS during WW2. I thought it was quite entertaining.
I used to know a card trick where Jacks would go on the bottom, on the top and in the middle! after shuffling they all ended up in the middle! this was exactly what they did! entry from below cleared! entry from above cleared and the abseiling SAS went straight through the middle and all cleared! minimal casualties! watched it live! it was wild
They used CS and CR gas. In CS gas cannisters and also in the flash bangs. I think this was the one that set the forward thinking for future ops. I imagine the view at that time was using CS gas had more upside than downside. Experience over time has shown this isn't the case. And I would imagine that given hindsight the OC of B Squadron would probably not have used it during this Op.
I've read they used Avon S12 gas masks because of two reasons:Tear gas option was on the table at the beginning, but was discarded when the team was already kitted up. The other reason was they knew TV was going to be present and was a way to preserve their anonimity. There's a funny story running around that says they changed into civilian clothes after the op and were chilling at a nearby pub. The press literally passed by them and they were none the wiser. I don't know if it's a true story but it sounds like something the SAS would do.
CS gas was never off the table, it was fired in by two team members at the front of the building. John Mcalease talked about his gas mask slipping and him puking from the CS gas during the operation
Also, that's not a true story about the civilian clothes. After the operation hey went back to the barracks, were visited by Margret Thatcher and her husband, packed up and went back to Hereford as they were still on QRF and had to be ready to head to another incident at a couple of hours notice if one happened. There are multiple books by members of the team discussing everything that happened, and none discuss chilling at the pub.
is there a part 2?
Was wondering that too and when?
Didn't the original stun grenades used on operation Nimrod contain CS gas?
Each of the 4 squadrons rotates for CT. Theres always a sambre squadron based in the UK to react
What about 19th and 20th group national guard SF can they operate in US. ??
Princess Diana was a live hostage in an SAS training op.
That’s beyond stressful I would reckon.
They set fire to her hair by accident 🤣 She then turned up in public with a new haircut and the media/fashion world went how cool does she look not knowing why she had a hair cut. True story.
@@nobbyclark5915 alot of high up diplomats went through it.
So was Thatcher and her bodyguard. Thatcher never moved, her bodyguard shat himself and dived under the table. Thatcher scolded him at the time and later fired him.
If i remember story correct Maggie Thatcher did the hostage room. It was noted by the guys she never even flinched.
There was CS used on the raid. One of them had their gas mask catch on fire so he did the op without it and killed two terrorists whilst under the effects of CS. They were also used as an intimidation factor and to conceal identity. I believe one of the guys on the op said they had these different kind of flashbangs made which had the CS in them. The downside of them is they had a tendency to set things on fire, hence the gas mask and also the curtains catching on fire which severely burned the legs of one of the operators who’s rope got caught whilst rappelling. He also continued on with the mission. A lot of them shot using sling tension and had those big lights zeroed to the weapon. At the end of the op, a couple of the guys tried to take the surviving terrorist back into the embassy to kill him but were encouraged not to by some of the other guys.
Well they were "ordered" by Thatcher not to leave any of the terrorists alive, to send a message.
Hey I really want to thank you both for sharing your experience in your last video together, I was struggling with the idea that I wasnt good enought since my mandatory sevice just a year before the pamdemic, so for a long time I got myself into random stuff just to try to feel ok, I felt like I needed to get in the military to be enought, until one nigth eight months ago that I was getting ready for a 5k run that I didnt even wanna be in when I saw your video with Tyler and really touched me, then I just get myself in bed ready to actually enjoy the run more than just to try to prove myself something.
Thanks a lot and I know that you helped other men there with the same insecurity. God bless.
By the way Buck, someone is looking more buff latelly💪🏼😎
They did use CS in the operation
There has never been a better DF Operator than Chuck Norris. And that is a scientific fact.
Amazing video. I love this movie and hope to see part 2 of this
From what I could find the SAS didn't wear das masks all the time and the reason they wore it for Operation Nimrod was because they had flashbangs and CS gas
How the fuck would you know what they do in CQB? You've never served.
@declanshanahan3888 I never claimed I did serve I just looked up why the SAS wore gas masks and this is what I found.
If you want to know specifically I found it on a Reddit post, not the best source admittedly but considering most of the other sites I looked at didn't mention anything or were just Wikipedia copies(which also didn't mention anything) Reddit was the only thing I found that actually gave any form of information on the subject.
Also why are you singling me out for? I'm not the only one in this comment section that commented on the gas masks.
And just for the record I'm not one of those Stolen Valor pricks.
Very happy to see Tyler back! That last part would indicate that SEAL Team is not that accurate, cause they always seem like they do CQB so good that they can avoid taking casualties almost all the time.
It's a series my friend, clearly I can't demonstrate everything about reality, because if not, you need 20 actors in each season, even so, there have been situations where they have been injured, and even killed
I think he's talking specifically about CT/HR, they're up against the clock and there's no way to perform CQB at that speed without losing some hostages/assaulters
@@Wile_E._Wolf I see, it makes sense then. Thanks for clarifying.
@@Wile_E._Wolf I think you're right, because during HR you are skipping a lot of steps/rooms etc to get to your target ASAP. I dare say - rushing. Simply because the mission is to save the hostages, and they do that in full knowledge they are risking their lives more to chance than skill for the majority of the mission.
Remember the episode where the guys had to conduct a seaborne HR and I believe they even mention they needed to skip steps if they wanted to save the hostages and ship
Theirs always so much respect between British and American special forces
Back then the public, on the whole, didn't even know there was an SAS. This was like their coming out party.
6.24 I wonder what specific reason Tyler was talking about
I assume that tier1 means you get the most high-value support, or at least are the priority for that support. The most effective gear, and the missions with the biggest, least visible impact
The UK is a lot smaller than the US as well. It doesnt take too long to get anywhere, especially by helicopter.
The green beret job honestly sounds way harder and more terrifying than any tier 1 job description. Going to war with homies you trust, people will risk anything for that. Going to war with a bunch of randos who you cant trust to load their weapon properly? Heck no
Sas is on a whole different level my friend
The SAS actually train with gas masks and live ammunition when they go in to their kill house it’s to make the training more difficult.
Duh. So does ever other wester special forces unit in the world. The SAS are not special these days. They are playing catch up to Delta.
@@davidmiller1354not really, you entitled to that cag is really good and so is the sas, put two and two into the same room you wouldn’t know the difference. If you’ve worked with both you would understand
@@davidmiller1354I’ll have some of what you are smoking.
@@Johnny_Knuckles you have already had to much judging by your comments
@@davidmiller1354 having conducted operations overseas alongside both units, it’s clearly obvious you have zero clue what you’re on about, pal. Pretty much most of the units at JSOC are indistinguishable from one another once the armour is on. The drills are shared, most of the weapons systems are identical, MOE are pretty identical as are target sets. What I will say is that the UKSF (SAS/SBS) has a wider mission set due to being able to operate within the borders of the UK unlike their American counterparts due to posse comitas. Although that’s not to say that the US SOF wouldn’t do a sterling job if they were able to operate within the CONUS.
On a side note; Margaret Thatcher was prime minister at the time and told the police they have control of the scene until the Palestinian hostage takers killed a hostage, after that she gave the SAS control of the situation.
The late John macaleesh told Maggie thatcher to move her head he was Watching the snooker lol British sas the best
I believe they were Iranian sir.
Been the same ever since, police have control until you kill a hostage, then the SAS are off the leash....and all bets are off....also like the other guy said they were Iranian not Palestinian.
"SAS Iranian Embassy Siege Documentary Operation Nimrod" has interviews with the hostages, with the SAS operators. That is one of the best telling of the true story I know of. Gas masks were part of the operation because they heavily gassed the embassy as part of the attack. In the UK in 80's the UK lacked anything like SWAT teams - it was not problem we had. Since this, and with the increase in terror attacks it has grown significantly - as seen with the London Bridge/Borough Market terror attack in 2017 - the 3 attackers shot dead within 8 minuets of the alarm going out.
I am assuming you are American stating you that had SWAT. It was the 1997 North Hollywood shoot out that made you guys get SWAT. Just like you know 10+ years late and yet you claim you had it from day 1 and you always think your the first to everything. The reason we don't have SWAT is we have the SAS. The police are meant to save lives and take people into custody when that is no longer an option well hand it over to the guys who are trained to do that and let the police keep doing what they do. Less time and cost on counselling police officers.
I was waiting for this...
Hi guys, these breakdowns are awesome. I hope that you do this with FAUDA.
@@GWOTKoolAid I think Fauda is just amazing. It is not as big budget as as the others but some of the scenes in it just blew my mind the first time I saw them.
The Delta operator said in their hostage rescue plans it was assumed that both some operatives and hostages would be killed. None of the SAS operatives were killed and two hostage died in the assault unfortunately. That’s so impressive.
It has been said that members of UK Gov & Royal Families are invited to "sit in" to a SAS shoot house training session when they first receive protection.
big thanks
Sop in the 80s was gas everything. Snipers fired cs through windows.
In terms of shooting with a respirator, they use the 3 point sling tension method with the stock of the mp5 retracted. The torch beam is focused and used as an aiming device.
Respirators are worn in the killing house and live ammo is always used. Theres a famous story about margaret thatcher playing a hostage in the killing house when she was primeminister and they ised live ammo with her
Fun fact for you guys, Margaret thatcher while visiting the training of the sas, sat in as a hostage in “the killing house”, and the used live rounds then. She had some big balls