What I did with my cables was take photos of all the plugs, remove the pins from the plugs, cut off pins, cut cables to length, solder pins onto wires and reinstalled pins in plugs using photos as reference.
A cliff-hanger ending...you tease Johnny!! Can't wait to see you in action on this one! I had a similar issue with my bike when it came to real estate and debating where to mount everything. Ended up adding a rear bike rack and placing controller and wiring in the controller bag, on the rear rack. Its neat, tidy, easy to access, and was really my only option; just not a fan of bike racks, lol! Great to have a video from you, and looking forward to lots more motomachinez content! Great stuff, as always!
Yes this bike doesn't have screw holes for a rack like other bikes have. But yes they arnt pleasing to the eye and more weight on backwheel won't help. But gotta do these things sometimes I understand that. I shall find a better way to house it all. And cheers the plan worked. That bike must have a bit of poke? Thank I'm looking forward to spending more time with it for sure
Ok the hub may have larger gauges, but honestly other than that for £1300 is abit much! We can buy a £500 MTX kit and vesc it , or any other 50a-80a controller for a lot less! You should crack it open and do side by side with your mtx wheel.
3:05 If you only put one washer on one side. The wheel won't be centre It will be like 3mm out on one side. And on some bike frame you may need the plastic spacer for the disc. Especially on front hub motor. It's best to check first before cutting it off. I've only needed one time
The level of advancement ( UK & Ireland) on the electrification subject of bicycles is on the same level to the system of the municipal sewage that you have there 😂
I should actually make a nice plate for this power although nothing compared to the power you run just for peace of mind. I notice you run qs motors and build own batteries. Wish I could build batteries, it's something I don't wanna get wrong as could be fatal. Thanks man
thats really cool i still have a 1500w rear hub with max speed of 35/40mph on a 52v 18ag battery but the acceleration is not that great but stil works fine
Thanks and I still have and use my 1500w hub it's a decent everyday bike. 40 I think feels fast enough on a bicycle. How many miles do you have on it ?
@@motomachinezuk8786 i don't no my display is acting weirdly i can see the votage but not the battery bars my speed or watts i think its broke because of water throttle just works fine but i never gonna buy a lcd8h display again
Never heard of that bike I thought it was a cheap one until I saw Voodoo, one of the earliest e-bike builds I saw was using one of those bikes. I bet the forks are better than mine, maybe I didn't look after it properly but I am sure I saw it seizing up sometimes, I also think the way you attached the torque arm could be more convenient than the metal clip method. Did they say how many amps the battery can output ? apparently with these type of motors higher current creates more torque whereas higher voltage gives higher top speed, depending on wheel size ( simplified explanation I think ). I expect you can get to 40 on this bike, but your old ones were also surprisingly fast.
Well it is cheap I got on sale after Xmas but is a highly rated bike for many reasons. Best hard tail budget bike. Luckily still with rear dropouts rather than axle. So many things to consider when selecting a donor bike. Forks are not great on giant but better than trek. Just need to keep them clean but I want to show on vid my trek forks after over 1200 miles. I have major play and when I brake hard I can see a gap down fork tube. The voodoo forks arealot more durable and air so I can maintain better. I not sure of battery amp out put I shall find out. Yes voltage is speed and current torque. And the torque arms set with screws does make removing wheel job easier if needs to come off, happy with torque arms. Do you have 2 on your bike ?
@@motomachinezuk8786 yes 2 with the metal hose clip things, so far no problem, had 1 puncture on these tyres but I fixed with the patch without removing wheel. I am interested to see how much more range you get with this battery vs the standard rectangular ones on your old bikes. Having more power seems to drain the battery faster from what I can see, even if I try to keep it in mode 2 almost all the way. I haven't tested the exact range I can get on the BBSHD bike with the same size UPP battery but I know its over 55 miles.
@ash0787 will be interesting and iwould have to get carful with power. I know what you mean as this 750w 48v demo bikes range has surprised me. I've noticed on the trek I get more miles per charge riding at about 10mph in level 2 than riding the same in other levels. Rolls at a better more comfortable speed
Bonjour j'ai la même configuration, j'ai acheté un gros sac triangle et j'ai rentré la batterie et le contrôleur a l'intérieur du cadre ,un peu comme votre sac de batterie mais pour aceullir les deux , batterie et contrôleur .
Mount the controller using rivet gun to make bolt mounts under the Bike frame and use black heat shrink to cover the coloured wires and the make then neater
I've seen a few people mount it on the underneath of downtube. I shall have a look and definitely appreciate the ideas. I've wrapped the wires so they look better. Cheers man
It was easier than I thought on this frame. I guessed I was going to prie open the drop out posts a little but I fitted better than my previous 2000w hub. Hope this makes sense
I have a 1500w csc kit and just got a 60v 20ah 50a bms battery made from molicells p42a 21700 would my motor be ok with this power i am upgrading to a 45a controller
Yes I would think so definitely just when it's real hot in summer just be weary it m8ght get warm but I doubt anything to worry about. I see people pushing more power from 1500w hubs
@@motomachinezuk8786 the calliper just doesn’t fit however I put the old disk brakes that came with the bike and they do fit, trying to find brakes that are small enough
I love your videos, but I’m sorry to say it but this looks a complete mess! I also have a 3000w 60v diy e-bike, I sourced the Eleek Lite frame from Ukraine which is bike looking enough to fly under the radar but all cables are in the frame. Still enjoyed the video though Johnny 👍 Hope you get back to full fitness soon! Ps- you can buy the rectangular shaped washers with rectangular middle, which saves all the mods
It's not possible for me to hide cables in the frame. I didn't think it was that bad just where I have some wires showing but it's always work in progress lol and room for improvement. Appreciate your honesty a d thoughts. I didn't know you could get rectangle washers, obviously the ones with kit but never seen for any other purpose before. I shall have a look sometime. I shall take a look at the eleek lite frame as unsure what it is. Thank you for feedback and pointers Cheers
@@motomachinezuk8786 We are an e-bike brand, we saw your work and think it fits our concept, we would like to have a cooperation with you, can you give us a contact?
That was not nice of you waking her up and telling her to go back to sleep🤦♂️ Shame you couldn't 3D print a little box same style as a controller to fit on top to hide the wires
She's done it to me enough over that last couple of months, bit of pay back won't hurt. That is a good shout just with I knew someone local with a 3d printer.
As an ebike owner. 3kW is way too much power to use on a bicycle. If you don't use ebike rated brake pads and even If you do, you will be wearing them out twice as fast as a 1kW motor. And most bike tyres even ebike rated tyres are not made to do highway speeds. I've done 60kph and that's sketchy at best even with wide mountain bike tyres. 3kW should be used for motorbikes not bicycles
What I did with my cables was take photos of all the plugs, remove the pins from the plugs, cut off pins, cut cables to length, solder pins onto wires and reinstalled pins in plugs using photos as reference.
A cliff-hanger ending...you tease Johnny!! Can't wait to see you in action on this one! I had a similar issue with my bike when it came to real estate and debating where to mount everything. Ended up adding a rear bike rack and placing controller and wiring in the controller bag, on the rear rack. Its neat, tidy, easy to access, and was really my only option; just not a fan of bike racks, lol! Great to have a video from you, and looking forward to lots more motomachinez content! Great stuff, as always!
Yes this bike doesn't have screw holes for a rack like other bikes have. But yes they arnt pleasing to the eye and more weight on backwheel won't help. But gotta do these things sometimes I understand that. I shall find a better way to house it all.
And cheers the plan worked.
That bike must have a bit of poke? Thank I'm looking forward to spending more time with it for sure
Can't wait to see this ebike completed! Stoked for you mate, Im sure you will enjoy the results Great Video Johnny!
I sure I shall even if only a learning curve. Its definitely alot quicker than my other.
Thanks bud
Buzzing to watch this mate can’t wait to get home better watching on tv than the phone lol
Just cover the last bit of cables in black tape for a slick look and then its amazing
Ok the hub may have larger gauges, but honestly other than that for £1300 is abit much! We can buy a £500 MTX kit and vesc it , or any other 50a-80a controller for a lot less!
You should crack it open and do side by side with your mtx wheel.
3:05
If you only put one washer on one side.
The wheel won't be centre
It will be like 3mm out on one side.
And on some bike frame you may need the plastic spacer for the disc.
Especially on front hub motor.
It's best to check first before cutting it off.
I've only needed one time
Torque washer goes Inside Frame 😊 3:32,that way it's trapped even if you lose the nut.
The level of advancement ( UK & Ireland) on the electrification subject of bicycles is on the same level to the system of the municipal sewage that you have there 😂
Ordering this on monday can’t wait 🤣 looking forward to your test video coming out too
It will be out soon I've just been short of time to edit and stuff in the last few weeks.
It's a decent kit with some punchy power to it for sure
I see how you did the washers on the torque arms for the nut, nice job. And now the fun begins 🤪💯🚲💨
I should actually make a nice plate for this power although nothing compared to the power you run just for peace of mind.
I notice you run qs motors and build own batteries. Wish I could build batteries, it's something I don't wanna get wrong as could be fatal.
Thanks man
@MOTO MACHINEZ UK but bolting the torque arm to the frame is way better than the hose clamp method in my opinion
@E-bikeguy totally agree, I've only built 3 bikes and always managed to bolt into the frame. So never had to use those clips . Cheers
can't wait for part 2
Thanks for the video! it helped me a lot :)
thats really cool i still have a 1500w rear hub with max speed of 35/40mph on a 52v 18ag battery but the acceleration is not that great but stil works fine
What will give us more acceleration ?
@@user-uc2dk1vp6e upgrade to higher amp controller/battery
Higher amps=more torque
Higher voltage=more speed
@@wastedWizard509 I thought amps = more cells more range
Thanks and I still have and use my 1500w hub it's a decent everyday bike. 40 I think feels fast enough on a bicycle. How many miles do you have on it ?
@@motomachinezuk8786 i don't no my display is acting weirdly i can see the votage but not the battery bars my speed or watts i think its broke because of water throttle just works fine but i never gonna buy a lcd8h display again
Needed a washer on there do it had mere surface to clamp to . That will chew into the alloy frame mate
I know what you mean and yes I shall do that to it,
Cheers for the input it's appreciated 👍
Never heard of that bike I thought it was a cheap one until I saw Voodoo, one of the earliest e-bike builds I saw was using one of those bikes. I bet the forks are better than mine, maybe I didn't look after it properly but I am sure I saw it seizing up sometimes, I also think the way you attached the torque arm could be more convenient than the metal clip method. Did they say how many amps the battery can output ? apparently with these type of motors higher current creates more torque whereas higher voltage gives higher top speed, depending on wheel size ( simplified explanation I think ). I expect you can get to 40 on this bike, but your old ones were also surprisingly fast.
Well it is cheap I got on sale after Xmas but is a highly rated bike for many reasons. Best hard tail budget bike. Luckily still with rear dropouts rather than axle. So many things to consider when selecting a donor bike. Forks are not great on giant but better than trek. Just need to keep them clean but I want to show on vid my trek forks after over 1200 miles. I have major play and when I brake hard I can see a gap down fork tube.
The voodoo forks arealot more durable and air so I can maintain better. I not sure of battery amp out put I shall find out. Yes voltage is speed and current torque. And the torque arms set with screws does make removing wheel job easier if needs to come off, happy with torque arms. Do you have 2 on your bike ?
@@motomachinezuk8786 yes 2 with the metal hose clip things, so far no problem, had 1 puncture on these tyres but I fixed with the patch without removing wheel. I am interested to see how much more range you get with this battery vs the standard rectangular ones on your old bikes. Having more power seems to drain the battery faster from what I can see, even if I try to keep it in mode 2 almost all the way. I haven't tested the exact range I can get on the BBSHD bike with the same size UPP battery but I know its over 55 miles.
@ash0787 will be interesting and iwould have to get carful with power. I know what you mean as this 750w 48v demo bikes range has surprised me. I've noticed on the trek I get more miles per charge riding at about 10mph in level 2 than riding the same in other levels. Rolls at a better more comfortable speed
At 5:24 There is a proper way to use a crescent wrench. You are holding in the way that would be taking the nut off.
Class build mate, how water proof is it? Thinking of getting one of these for the commute but doesn’t fill me with confidence when I can see wires
3kw 40mph is perfect for a mtb conversion. I use a 1500w at 3kw I'm worried the torque of a true 3kw wheel will do damage to the dropout.
Is it safe to ride in heavy rain? I mean, this battery seems full metal... is it waterproof or it requires some sort of "sleeve" on?
What size wheel motor did you put on the back bud
Bonjour j'ai la même configuration, j'ai acheté un gros sac triangle et j'ai rentré la batterie et le contrôleur a l'intérieur du cadre ,un peu comme votre sac de batterie mais pour aceullir les deux , batterie et contrôleur .
What kind bike do you have
Can you send me a link where you got it I'm trying to save up for a conversation kit
And where are you going to ride this bike?
what battery are you using for the 3kw hub motor? how much max. discharge (Amps)
@Moto bike checked, but what about the wheel and battery, etc.
can ulike link a parts list or link were u bogt it i dunt rech the website
Can anyone help me i need to find a 3000w 72v/60v (27.5) wheel hub motor
Mount the controller using rivet gun to make bolt mounts under the Bike frame and use black heat shrink to cover the coloured wires and the make then neater
Dude! Cmon. Great build, gj
@@davinadavidson9062 hu ?
I've seen a few people mount it on the underneath of downtube. I shall have a look and definitely appreciate the ideas. I've wrapped the wires so they look better.
Cheers man
@@motomachinezuk8786 yea bro looks sick tho
what is the name of the kit you used?
Guys who knows were i can pick all of this stuff up please
The bike isn’t actually a boost axle
How did get back wheeel to as fro it 142 instead of 135 any help would be appreciated
It was easier than I thought on this frame. I guessed I was going to prie open the drop out posts a little but I fitted better than my previous 2000w hub. Hope this makes sense
Review coming soon bro? 😅
The first ride vid posted now
I have a 1500w csc kit and just got a 60v 20ah 50a bms battery made from molicells p42a 21700 would my motor be ok with this power i am upgrading to a 45a controller
Yes I would think so definitely just when it's real hot in summer just be weary it m8ght get warm but I doubt anything to worry about. I see people pushing more power from 1500w hubs
I’m having issue finding brakes that will fit on the back hub, I’ve tried the Clarks m2s and m4a and none work, any solutions ? Thanks
I've not had that problem so I can't comment. Ii found the hub roomy compared to previous hubs.
How does it not work ?
@@motomachinezuk8786 the calliper just doesn’t fit however I put the old disk brakes that came with the bike and they do fit, trying to find brakes that are small enough
If you get a 3000-watt kit, does any 72v battery work ?
most 72 v batteries will work yes
where is the stuff from
Now that you have tested the bike, what kind of range do you get?
I'm guessing on eco mode close to 100 miles if not a lot more but if you hammer it and being 60V... not so much.
Nice build! What amp is the speed contoller?
Thank you. It's a 60a square wave. Not the best but does the job
I agree.
Do you know anyone who'd build one on request and what the price would be
Whist is the kit called?
Hi, how much range est should this give if doing throttle only?
Hi I've not properly tested range yet but I'm hoping 40 to 50 miles in optimum conditions
Shunt mode for more acceleration.
What is the maximum speed with load?
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Top speed test vid
What size is the bike frame?
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Wait, is that fucking bomb at the background???🤨🤨🤨
What is the top speed
it would be around 100
2:53 зачем перекусывать и портить деталь если можно было снять её протянув вдоль провода к концу?
I love your videos, but I’m sorry to say it but this looks a complete mess! I also have a 3000w 60v diy e-bike, I sourced the Eleek Lite frame from Ukraine which is bike looking enough to fly under the radar but all cables are in the frame. Still enjoyed the video though Johnny 👍 Hope you get back to full fitness soon! Ps- you can buy the rectangular shaped washers with rectangular middle, which saves all the mods
It's not possible for me to hide cables in the frame. I didn't think it was that bad just where I have some wires showing but it's always work in progress lol and room for improvement. Appreciate your honesty a d thoughts. I didn't know you could get rectangle washers, obviously the ones with kit but never seen for any other purpose before. I shall have a look sometime.
I shall take a look at the eleek lite frame as unsure what it is.
Thank you for feedback and pointers
Cheers
What kit is it
你好，我们是新的电动自行车品牌，想与你合作，可以聊一下吗？
Sorry no understand mandarin
@@motomachinezuk8786 We are an e-bike brand, we saw your work and think it fits our concept, we would like to have a cooperation with you, can you give us a contact?
That was not nice of you waking her up and telling her to go back to sleep🤦♂️
Shame you couldn't 3D print a little box same style as a controller to fit on top to hide the wires
She's done it to me enough over that last couple of months, bit of pay back won't hurt. That is a good shout just with I knew someone local with a 3d printer.
As an ebike owner. 3kW is way too much power to use on a bicycle. If you don't use ebike rated brake pads and even If you do, you will be wearing them out twice as fast as a 1kW motor. And most bike tyres even ebike rated tyres are not made to do highway speeds. I've done 60kph and that's sketchy at best even with wide mountain bike tyres. 3kW should be used for motorbikes not bicycles
😢boo hoo hoo😢
Go back to your knitting. He can live dangerously if he wants.
@@davidcoates4852😂😂 nicely said 😂
You have a good point. After putting a 3000w on my mt bike, I prefer the ride better on the bomber frame. Just saying
Break pads are cheap..... Like a set of 6 for $12