Charlie's Angels - How Gender Obsession Can Ruin a Film | Anatomy Of A Failure

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  • The 2019 Elizabeth Banks reboot of Charlie's Angels with Kristen Stewart and Princess Jasmine and the other one didn't go so well. Not only did it flop bad enough to end the franchise, it also got quite a bit of heat from audiences, mostly because of its relentless transfixion with being a female driven movie like Wonder Woman or Captain Marvel. In today's family friendly episode of Anatomy of a Failure, let's see how this film was so obsessed in its gender related agenda that it inadvertently managed to ruin itself. If you're planning to make a female driven action movie, here's what to avoid. Now let's just wait for Scarlett Johansson's Black Widow.
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    Charlie's Angels (2019)
    Elena (Naomi Scott), a young engineer, unwittingly stumbles upon new government technology that could hold significant and dangerous ramifications for society. However, her discovery garners attention from the wrong sort of everything wrong with Charlie's Angels cinemasins honest trailer Charlie's Angels watch full movie online free 4k clip Charlie's Angels a perfect storm flop box office bomb people, so it is up to two special operatives men in black international how to build a toxic hero (Kristen Stewart and Ella Balinska) to mobilize, protecting Elena and the future of the planet in the process. Written and directed by Elizabeth Banks.
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    Wonder Woman (2017)
    An Amazon princess named Diana (Gal Gadot) lives an idyllic existence on an island occupied solely by female warriors, but her life changes forever after American pilot Steve Trevor (Chris Pine) crash-lands nearby. When he tells her that a massive war is engulfing the planet, she decides to travel with him to the outside world, hoping to use her powers to put an end to the conflict. Along the way, she becomes the legendary superheroine known as Wonder Woman. Directed by Patty Jenkins (Monster), this is the first solo feature film for the iconic DC Comics character.

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  • @benjaminaltube8731
    @benjaminaltube8731 4 роки тому +5461

    "If a character can do everything, then theres nothing for the character to grow from"
    The critical drinker

    • @lain5858
      @lain5858 3 роки тому +101

      Only in personality but a character need to have some personality flaws in the first place

    • @FuryanJedi13
      @FuryanJedi13 3 роки тому +81

      Case in point: Rey from the Star Wars sequels.
      Goddamned Mary Sue.

    • @goahdejen6176
      @goahdejen6176 3 роки тому +25

      Well i mean the movie or show the character's from can be interesting (e.g. One Punch Man)

    • @tamonk9054
      @tamonk9054 3 роки тому +29

      Goah Dejen he does have room to grew not in strength or power but in his mentality and mindset

    • @RealNefastus
      @RealNefastus 3 роки тому +32

      @@goahdejen6176 OP is a satire anime where the main target of satire is being op.

  • @PR1ME98
    @PR1ME98 3 роки тому +12160

    My mom was a fan of the original Charlie’s angles, and she took a writing class in her younger days, when we saw this she was literally yelling at the screen because of how bad it was. We legit had to calm her down.

    • @dennisjaime1801
      @dennisjaime1801 3 роки тому +901

      Hard-core fan.

    • @SingleTax
      @SingleTax 3 роки тому +818

      That's how you know you have a cool mom. Wish I could have been there to see it.

    • @vx2335
      @vx2335 3 роки тому +82

      Lmao

    • @PR1ME98
      @PR1ME98 3 роки тому +481

      @Trevor Philips It is, she was literally standing up and storming towards the screen just pointing and screaming. Any more and we would’ve had to buy a new TV. And we aren’t the most financially stable family lol.

    • @dommyWommy82
      @dommyWommy82 3 роки тому +33

      Damn

  • @tatumtots6734
    @tatumtots6734 3 роки тому +7823

    I’m a woman, and I can’t relate to characters who are portrayed as having no flaws. It actually makes me feel like I’m not good enough, when they say women can do anything

    • @arvindjaq9343
      @arvindjaq9343 3 роки тому +354

      I’m a guy and I know that you dont have to be a woman to understand this.
      😑

    • @blyat8832
      @blyat8832 3 роки тому +258

      I'm more likely to relate to a rock than these angels, regardless of my gender

    • @vartner8051
      @vartner8051 3 роки тому +184

      And it's not like men can do everything either, that's just the way it. There some things women can do that men can't and vice versa

    • @peterkulczycki6244
      @peterkulczycki6244 3 роки тому +92

      Agreed and this is why Instagram can be such a dangerous place; it sets a range of unrealistic expectations about society that just don't reflect reality for the 99%.

    • @danielstarr8957
      @danielstarr8957 3 роки тому +54

      That was my first thought too, young girls are going to see this and feel confused that they aren't super good at everything at once.....

  • @bruhcringe9769
    @bruhcringe9769 2 роки тому +3202

    This movie is very accurate. As a man, all I can think about is how to manipulate, harass, and endanger women as I am a simple, primal creature that feeds on tears and pain.

    • @Helena-me6mp
      @Helena-me6mp 2 роки тому +364

      Wait WHAT?!? YOURE DOING THE SAME? Never thought i wasnt the only one.

    • @nyancat.123
      @nyancat.123 2 роки тому +531

      Thid movie is super relatable. As a woman, by default I am a demigod who can get rid of climate change in just a minute.

    • @Helena-me6mp
      @Helena-me6mp 2 роки тому +74

      @@nyancat.123 Of course!

    • @eileensnow6153
      @eileensnow6153 2 роки тому +196

      @@nyancat.123 A fellow demigod queen! I remember the day I first decided I wanted to learn Latin and then I just, like, knew it 🤪 that’s when I knew, being femail is sow kewl

    • @bitcoinbull6564
      @bitcoinbull6564 2 роки тому +29

      @@eileensnow6153 LatinX get it right 😆

  • @gericross
    @gericross 3 роки тому +15685

    As sad as it is, Hollywood tends to write strong FEMALE characters instead of STRONG female characters

    • @Cheesehead_Caleb
      @Cheesehead_Caleb 3 роки тому +639

      Dang that's a really important distinction that I didn't think of before

    • @vipingedam3327
      @vipingedam3327 3 роки тому +139

      Dayummm;What sort of wisdom is it💪🏻💯

    • @lukemurphy2208
      @lukemurphy2208 3 роки тому +527

      How to make a classic strong FEMALE character:
      -take a toxic male character;
      -make it female;
      -profit;

    • @haydenchristensen9278
      @haydenchristensen9278 3 роки тому +46

      this means literally nothing, just a pseudo intellectual comment

    • @adeleaslan8182
      @adeleaslan8182 3 роки тому +178

      I think the problem is that they don’t write strong female CHARACTERS because they’re too focused on the first two

  • @aamiller90
    @aamiller90 4 роки тому +5333

    Remember when being a cool character meant you were a cool character, regardless of gender? Like Ripley from Aliens?

    • @bukchoiii
      @bukchoiii 4 роки тому +398

      Ripley was also written originally as a man. It was swapped last minute and made it more interesting. It could've been played by any gender and still be good cause the foundation writing was good.

    • @VladTepesh409
      @VladTepesh409 4 роки тому +281

      In Alien and Aliens, Ripley didn't start out as a badass, she developed into a badass in the movie. Even in Aliens, Burk and the marines cast Ripley in a supporting role until she showed them she is the smartest, most capable person in the room.
      You finally see Ripley's character replace her public image among the marines after Burk's failed attempt to implant the aliens in her and Newt.
      I would say that is what makes good movies. Leave the politically-fueled agendas outside the studio, and just make great movies. Otherwise, it's just propaganda, because anyone can recognize it for what it is.

    • @MYKhanFromThe90s
      @MYKhanFromThe90s 4 роки тому +8

      I member!

    • @eug3nius
      @eug3nius 4 роки тому +31

      Remember when you could differentiate between masculine and feminine?

    •  4 роки тому +23

      @Benjamin McMullan what the fuck happen to women? They can vote, they can body build and star in movies,cartoons and more and they have the Gall to say THEY are OPPRESSED!?😡

  • @grfrjiglstan
    @grfrjiglstan 4 роки тому +34292

    Gender politics shouldn't be a zero sum game. Supporting women doesn't necessarily mean you have to hate men to do it.

    • @Filmento
      @Filmento  4 роки тому +4132

      well said

    • @NLJeffEU
      @NLJeffEU 4 роки тому +1367

      WRONG! Or els you support the patriarchy!!
      jk

    • @StandWatie1862
      @StandWatie1862 4 роки тому +594

      Women want participation medals

    • @adamgray1753
      @adamgray1753 4 роки тому +377

      Too bad real life has no participation medals and/or trophies for merely existing in space and time, @@StandWatie1862. What life does have to offer for sure are Darwin Awards.

    • @StandWatie1862
      @StandWatie1862 4 роки тому +244

      @@adamgray1753 Unfortunately what we're witnessing is reverse Darwinism.

  • @haidaralmohsen4408
    @haidaralmohsen4408 2 роки тому +2104

    Male leading movies : the hero tend to protect his beloved female .
    Female leasing movies : tend to insult and villainize every male they meet .

    • @endlessstudent3512
      @endlessstudent3512 2 роки тому +335

      Male leading movies: beloved female dies at the beginning and he now manly takes revenge
      Female leading movies: there cannot be a beloved male, because if there was, he would be lead role.

    • @wickedwitch7456
      @wickedwitch7456 2 роки тому +263

      @@endlessstudent3512 because having healthy relationship with men is not empowering and makes them dependent on men. Only relationships that are allowed is a lesbian relationship 🤣🤣

    • @5552-d8b
      @5552-d8b 2 роки тому +55

      Im a male. I’m writing my anime story about a relationship during a dystopia where ones a female zombie and the male is a brainwashed soldier clone.
      In my story they both are willing to die for each other and I’ll even allow my male character to get wounded to allow the love interest to save him
      No not because of politcal statements but because they love each other and there is no gender bias crap. I believe in good characters not good gender characters.
      One problem with woke movies and video games is they throw the gender or race victim thing on to make a politcal statement.
      I have no problem with female leads example being lucina from fire emblem not that she’s the main character but you can control her and boy o boy I use her all the time like she’s a main character cause she’s a absolute badass and I ship her and robin.
      I never once looked at Lucina as a overpowered female. She’s a natural badass who’s female. I respect the fact that she never treats male genders differently she’s treats everyone the same.
      Woke movies always has to have female leads male men look stupid for no reason or there the white main villian

    • @paladinjones1833
      @paladinjones1833 2 роки тому +16

      @@5552-d8b Sounds good, I'd read it! It sounds like neither character is defined by their gender, and you could probably switch the male/female roles without affecting the story.

    • @5552-d8b
      @5552-d8b 2 роки тому +12

      @@paladinjones1833 thank you for the comment. You could switch genders and it wouldn’t be affected. In my story gender dispute is not in my anime story compared to woke movies. In my story i want my characters to be mature and not have a politcal statement to make about everything.

  • @Hailstormful
    @Hailstormful 4 роки тому +3540

    "This movie wasn't made for men to watch..."
    -Men don't go watch movie...
    Elizabeth Banks: **Surprised Pikachu Face**

    • @EmyN
      @EmyN 4 роки тому +253

      Yeah and she even said in a conference that men should had watched the movie as favor for women because we apparently watch "men movies" as a favor for them

    • @lugbzurg8987
      @lugbzurg8987 4 роки тому +117

      What's funny is that it turned out about 54% of the total audience that went to see the film was men.

    • @moonmannd7501
      @moonmannd7501 4 роки тому +137

      @@lugbzurg8987 Not a difficult stat when only 15 people actually bought a ticket.

    • @Southparker42
      @Southparker42 4 роки тому +11

      @Kurt Barryman I don't think you know what feminism is

    • @Acueil
      @Acueil 4 роки тому +128

      @@Southparker42 When feminists says: "it's better for innocent men to be put in jail for false rape accusation than for a single rapist to be let free", it's not far off.

  • @rapidreaders7741
    @rapidreaders7741 4 роки тому +2991

    "In a world where women can do and be anything, the one thing they can't do is be unique"
    _Your words cut deep into my soul_

    • @DemonicRemption
      @DemonicRemption 4 роки тому +51

      @Rapper Riders
      IKR? I heard that and was like:"Dang... That cut REALLLY DEEP dogg! O_O"

    • @reflectivetrev2430
      @reflectivetrev2430 4 роки тому +169

      “When everyone is special, no one will be”
      The villain from Incredibles

    • @jiggycalzone8585
      @jiggycalzone8585 4 роки тому +3

      Legend

    • @hulmhochberg8129
      @hulmhochberg8129 4 роки тому +5

      @@reflectivetrev2430 wasn't it the speed kid who said that

    • @Mark_Knight
      @Mark_Knight 4 роки тому +26

      When hard times come, it will, people will go back to what they naturally are. The pretend strong whamen, will all decide miraculously to wear skirts, put on heels, put their hair down and drop to their knees. History tells us this, so does reality and common sense.
      You will see the manly men be promoted by the MSM, politicians and corporations in unison. Everyone will know their roles, and this fake agenda, push towards communism(feminism/identity/SJW) will end within a month.

  • @ranukajayawardane8547
    @ranukajayawardane8547 3 роки тому +4964

    "Men hate movies led by women"
    Me watching Kill Bill for the 30th time

    • @dcchaos6409
      @dcchaos6409 3 роки тому +288

      Kill bill is a piece of art

    • @redclayscholar620
      @redclayscholar620 3 роки тому +370

      Xena, Alien, Tomb Raider, Long Kiss Goodnight, Underworld... maybe the problem isn't women.

    • @ahmedfawad16
      @ahmedfawad16 3 роки тому +188

      Also didnt wonder woman make a shit ton of money AND was universally acclaimed?

    • @samuelirwin8206
      @samuelirwin8206 3 роки тому +115

      dude...i watched frozen 2 like 4 times in theatre. just me...no friends....no date...i just liked the movie and the music....oh boy...holy all that is good....that music....lol

    • @ac8911
      @ac8911 3 роки тому +80

      *Me watching Terminator 1/2 for the 100th time*

  • @WilliamWizer
    @WilliamWizer 2 роки тому +489

    "when everybody is special, the only thing they can't do is to be unique"
    so damn true.

    • @clintoruss153
      @clintoruss153 Рік тому +9

      Exactly also when every one is super no one is

    • @xeecerzkaviuoer9200
      @xeecerzkaviuoer9200 Рік тому

      I always womder What wonderwomen Clan do for Breeding or Sex, do they use Monkeys or Black Horses

    • @WilliamWizer
      @WilliamWizer Рік тому

      @@xeecerzkaviuoer9200 if I'm not mistaken, kidnap, rape and murder.
      that's the only way an all female tribe can be inseminated. you kidnap men, rape them and get rid of the evidence.
      it's that or a skill to gender swap so they can inseminate each other.
      unless it's divine intervention (the feminist answer)

    • @xeecerzkaviuoer9200
      @xeecerzkaviuoer9200 Рік тому

      @@WilliamWizer Jeez Us

    • @sinxpride6910
      @sinxpride6910 Рік тому +2

      @@xeecerzkaviuoer9200 they left island at night in boats find sailors do snu snu with them and then kill them,9 months later if its a girl they'll keep her and if its a boy they'll sold them or there's a god who takes the boys with him and raise them and they work with him he's a Greek god who who makes weapons
      You can find the comic

  • @gigo1822
    @gigo1822 4 роки тому +764

    They're making strong female characters, except they forgot the "character" part

    • @ImpulsivelyBree
      @ImpulsivelyBree 4 роки тому +22

      The main theme of a character should never be just their gender. The need a fricken personality first!

    • @caremell
      @caremell 4 роки тому +1

      Lil Bastard they are chasing a ghost wishing to be alive

    • @gigo1822
      @gigo1822 4 роки тому

      diane spencer

  • @Aishinorealest
    @Aishinorealest 3 роки тому +4869

    men dont watch female movies
    me a man who watched every disney princess movie:

    • @brayanflores8128
      @brayanflores8128 3 роки тому +377

      My sister made me watch the old barbie movies and they were lit

    • @daniboy4153
      @daniboy4153 3 роки тому +60

      I've watched most of the female led franchises ever made

    • @theovanua
      @theovanua 3 роки тому +105

      Me who watched the 2000s Charlie's angels films

    • @bandawin18
      @bandawin18 3 роки тому +75

      @@brayanflores8128 I still have the entire script of the diamond castle and the princess & the pauper memorized by heart

    • @fegeleinherman8587
      @fegeleinherman8587 3 роки тому +57

      Me a boy who wacht Tinkerbell movie:

  • @TheNaturalnuke
    @TheNaturalnuke 3 роки тому +1549

    “You can do anything.” Is a positive message.
    “You have to be everything.” Is a toxic image that leads to SO much anxiety for girls young and old.

    • @kr6productions
      @kr6productions 3 роки тому +8

      ^^^^

    • @NewAgeSlaves
      @NewAgeSlaves 3 роки тому +12

      Revelation right here

    • @SFP0181
      @SFP0181 3 роки тому +26

      If you have to be everything it means you won't need anyone, no wonder why these types of women are single and dying alone with their cats 🤔

    • @Tes-qe1jc
      @Tes-qe1jc 3 роки тому +50

      “You can do anything “ is a bad message. Because let’s be honest, you CAN’T do everything.

    • @savstinks6847
      @savstinks6847 3 роки тому +22

      @@Tes-qe1jc EXACTLY nobody is perfect

  • @rickandrygel913
    @rickandrygel913 2 роки тому +1852

    Most men don't hate their mother, most women don't hate their father. Pandering to a demographic that vehemently hates an entire gender gives you a very tiny target audience...

    • @danielmuhkirz1373
      @danielmuhkirz1373 Рік тому +44

      yep we as human dont hate mother and father

    • @Celestial-Idiot
      @Celestial-Idiot Рік тому +72

      @@danielmuhkirz1373 me love mother, mother good, mother make me food

    • @arrielradja5522
      @arrielradja5522 Рік тому +68

      @@Celestial-Idiot grandma makes better food

    • @uditkundu2353
      @uditkundu2353 Рік тому +19

      Great grand mother made even better food.

    • @the_kombinator
      @the_kombinator Рік тому +24

      Beyonce - All the women who independent
      Throw your hands up at me
      All the honeys who making money
      Throw your hands up at me
      All the mamas who profit dollars
      Throw your hands up at me
      Also Beyonce - Can you pay my bills?
      Can you pay my telephone bills?
      Do you pay my automo' bills?
      If you did, then maybe we could chill
      I don't think you do
      So, you and me are through
      iPOR QUE NO LOS DOS!

  • @killiandarkwater9918
    @killiandarkwater9918 3 роки тому +9814

    "Men hate female characters becayse they're strong"
    men playing resident evil village: *please stomp me*

    • @Crusader316
      @Crusader316 3 роки тому +331

      Hell yea

    • @musicchannel4453
      @musicchannel4453 3 роки тому +461

      She could break my spine I'd be grateful

    • @Crusader316
      @Crusader316 3 роки тому +424

      @@musicchannel4453 bro im grateful shes chasing me

    • @musicchannel4453
      @musicchannel4453 3 роки тому +181

      @@Crusader316 just reading it made me acts up 😭😭😩

    • @Crusader316
      @Crusader316 3 роки тому +76

      @@musicchannel4453 no kidding

  • @ellie4601
    @ellie4601 4 роки тому +428

    The weird thing is that the original Charlie's Angels have always been about badass women, so there was no reason to push the "gender agenda" when it was already done perfectly in the OG

    • @eastlynburkholder3559
      @eastlynburkholder3559 4 роки тому +28

      So true . They ran in high heels but they were wedges that are easier to run in and other thoughtful touches like that made it realistic.

    • @amarab3243
      @amarab3243 4 роки тому +5

      Exactly

    • @c5quared626
      @c5quared626 4 роки тому +19

      @@eastlynburkholder3559 the gender thing gave the film the go ahead. like "ghostbusters sucked, so instead of doing a role reversal, lets exploit an already female franchise, to push the agenda". the sucky part is that they were not able to cover up these intentions with clever writing, instead they tried to use fast paced action and family guy gags - a la stranger things3.

    • @RykersRange
      @RykersRange 4 роки тому +7

      Amen to that. Hell say what you will about the early 2000's remakes, but at LEAST they had fun and were fun to watch and embraced the over the top nature of action and didn't push that gender crap

    • @chandlerscaringia5260
      @chandlerscaringia5260 4 роки тому +1

      I had no problem with Charlie’s Angel but then again I’m not insecure.

  • @darkursrike3161
    @darkursrike3161 4 роки тому +13816

    Fun fact: I only know the movie because of this video.

  • @carpedm9846
    @carpedm9846 4 роки тому +1847

    Syndrome: When everybody is Super, no one is.
    Elastigirl: everyone is special.
    Dash: which means no one is.

    • @hanburgundy4317
      @hanburgundy4317 4 роки тому +225

      Exactly. Take the Star Wars sequel trilogy.
      "Who's the pilot?"
      "Poe... and Rey."
      "Okay, well who's good with a blaster?"
      "Finn... and Rey."
      "That's, uh... well, then, who's the Jedi?"
      "That'd be Rey."
      "Isn't she the lead, though?"
      "Yeah - she does it all."
      "Then why do the other characters exist and what makes Rey special?"
      "...."
      "...."
      "...um..."
      "Riiiiiiggghht...."

    • @keelobrown4991
      @keelobrown4991 4 роки тому +112

      @@WrathofFenrir99 "whos the chosen one?" Anakin... but rey is more chosen than him"

    • @YaNoAwantoMas
      @YaNoAwantoMas 4 роки тому +64

      Also who's the Jedi master that teaches others? Yoda.... And also Rei, she teaches herself.

    • @noahthompson2912
      @noahthompson2912 4 роки тому +4

      @@WrathofFenrir99 she's not the villain ... just fake outs ... damnit , I'm seeing how people can hate these movies

    • @Winasaurus
      @Winasaurus 4 роки тому +17

      @@hanburgundy4317 Who's the good guy? Rey.
      Who's the bad guy? Kylo and Rey.
      Who's the emotional weight? Rey and a couple others.
      Who's the tech genius? Rey.
      I rewatched episode 4 not too long ago and for all it's flaws, at least the characters have character and are consistent. If you need a thing hacking or bypassing, R2 and C3PO do it, not Luke. Hell, look shoots the door controls and realises right after that that's probably also the bridge controls. He's the hero, but he's not especially smart. If it were Rey, she'd have been breaking it open and bypassing shit like she does with the Millennium Falcon.

  • @redv.402
    @redv.402 4 роки тому +2191

    when i say i want STRONG female characters, i don’t need female characters that are both physically strong and extremely intellectual. by “strong female characters,” i want interesting and flawed characters that go through obstacles + have their own stories and lessons to tell. them having to happen to be women or girls, even better!!!

    • @Adamguy2003
      @Adamguy2003 4 роки тому +62

      I knew exactly what you mean. SEMI- LONG POST AHEAD!
      For a somewhat recent example of this, I'd look at the 2015 film 'Krampus,' specifically at the character Aunt Linda. She's not a strong Amazon who also happens to be a brilliant scientist; She's an average, slightly overweight homemaker who has some issues with her sister (Which they both can be blamed for) when they all get together for Christmas. Over the course of the film, she and her sister begin setting aside their differences amid the ordeal their families are going through. Then, around the film's second act, there's a scene when they and another adult are attacked in the attic by killer toys Krampus has sicced on them. When all seems lost, Aunt Linda (Who at the time was wearing a goofy- looking Rudolph sweater) gains a nice shot of courage, and uses a broken- off icicle and axe to bravely fight off the toys and save her family. I'd say THAT's an example of a strong, empowering, inspirational example for women; An average, seemingly- unimpressive woman whose love for her family gives her the strength to stand up to evil.

    • @Mr.Looooong
      @Mr.Looooong 4 роки тому +4

      Like the new terminator

    • @nomenome856
      @nomenome856 4 роки тому +2

      Anddddd you can have both types of 'strong female characters'! Ta-da!

    • @invizcharlie9477
      @invizcharlie9477 4 роки тому +34

      Captain Marvel is exactly this. Too strong. I mean, she destroyed a ship in seconds that the whole Avengers could not even make a dent in. It's not that she's a woman, it's that she doesn't have any character flaws.

    • @lightningmcapplesaucegobli9264
      @lightningmcapplesaucegobli9264 4 роки тому +64

      @@invizcharlie9477 I think the biggest problem with Captain Marvel is that the creators are taking a character that's unlikeable and trying to convince us that she's likeable. With Tony, he's portrayed as unlikeable and we know he's unlikeable. And then he experiences character growth. Captain Marvel is a flat, arrogant, and dull character with no growth or likeability.

  • @littleblueclovers
    @littleblueclovers 3 роки тому +2472

    When I think about a great way to portray a “badass woman” I think of the animated Mulan movie.
    Yes, she accomplished a lot, but we see her initially really bad at what she does. We root for her and her victories are more deserved. Additionally, she still has plenty of funny moments, making her more well-rounded.
    I’m so tired of these “emotionless, badass, perfect” women in movies. Please. Literally give me anything else.

    • @PrincessMavenKittyDarkholme
      @PrincessMavenKittyDarkholme 3 роки тому +18

      Padme

    • @orlandojack5525
      @orlandojack5525 3 роки тому +11

      @Tracker X Agreed.

    • @angrypumpkin9627
      @angrypumpkin9627 2 роки тому +59

      May I just add that I love the animated Mulan and I would never get tired of repeating it, I know it all word by word😂
      You are totally right, she is portrayed as a real women, someone who is cable, strong and independent yet she also has a soft side where she cares for the people she love in this case going into war for her father and she also has a little crush on her commander, that's girly for me, the fact that she has flaws it's what makes her more humane and relatable and during combat she had support by the men to save china which overall shows that despite our differences in gender, race blah blah we are all human😊

    • @piiec7642
      @piiec7642 2 роки тому +57

      Mulan is possibly the only female lead character in a Disney movie I have ever actually been able to label as "favourite" because of that. She struggles, she fails, but she doesn't give up, and that's a major part of what makes her a good character, that she's allowed to go through that and show regular, human emotion as she does so.

    • @lambchop58
      @lambchop58 2 роки тому +1

      Alien's Ripley

  • @jeremiahdansereau2950
    @jeremiahdansereau2950 3 роки тому +2470

    70s Angels: Perfect
    2000s Angels: Fun
    2019: Angels: Propaganda

    • @martinjovanovic6783
      @martinjovanovic6783 3 роки тому +228

      2029 trans angels

    • @peterb000
      @peterb000 3 роки тому +66

      @@martinjovanovic6783 ironically, there already is a website with that name (i wouldnt recommend accessing it with other people near you)

    • @roberthughes286
      @roberthughes286 3 роки тому +36

      Right? It's like the franchise has been done twice. Both are beloved in their own way. And still was empowering to women. If it isn't broke don't fix it.

    • @aztn19
      @aztn19 3 роки тому +21

      I did wish that these Angels would stand out as good in their own way. The 2000s Angels are fun and nostalgic; even the 70s Angels have their own charm to them that’s easy to understand why fans would like to see reboots of the series. But nothing to these 2019 Angels sticks out besides the “women are flawless because all men suck” mentality

    • @catnip202xch.
      @catnip202xch. 3 роки тому +4

      Where did we go wrong.

  • @zing6
    @zing6 4 роки тому +1707

    Charlie's angels: staring Princess jasmine, Kristen Stewart, and *The Tall One*

    • @tonytapat1161
      @tonytapat1161 4 роки тому +22

      that's one of the main problem casting the tall one didn't contribute to the movie

    • @quokka8292
      @quokka8292 4 роки тому +18

      I think you mean bella swan

    • @krisick-tt3fn
      @krisick-tt3fn 4 роки тому +2

      🤣🤣

    • @georgeund7533
      @georgeund7533 4 роки тому +6

      OH NO NOT THE TALL ONE 😨😨😨

    • @em_mkay
      @em_mkay 4 роки тому

      Not Kristen Stewart Bella swan

  • @jums7657
    @jums7657 3 роки тому +1310

    They went so deep into making the women "strong" and "powerful" that they literally forgot to give them flaws. The whole female cast are mary sues

    • @EskChan19
      @EskChan19 3 роки тому +80

      And pretty much all Mary Sues are exactly the same. That's even worse when you have not only 1 but 3 Mary Sues like here. They're basically 3 times the same character, just portrayed by different actors. And i'm losing the term "character" losely here.

    • @Destroyer2150
      @Destroyer2150 3 роки тому +43

      Funny enough, the movies made back in the 2000s were way more consistent and fun.
      Every Angel had a expertise, personality and flaws. And they commited to being cheesy and over the top.
      In this movie, they are all "jack of all traits, master of all" and everyone is so serious and act like an asshole with the protagonists. Fuck, they made Sir Patrick Steward the bad guy. Who does that?

    • @tokyouu
      @tokyouu 3 роки тому

      Kirito type beat (anime sao reference)

    • @teenybabs
      @teenybabs 3 роки тому

      @@Destroyer2150 Didn't know Patrick Stewart was in this, I will have to watch it now. Kind of like when Brent Spiner was in The Master of Disguise (2002). It became a must watch for me even though I cringed most of the way through it and not in a good way like with Patrick Stewart in Extras, cringed for all the right reasons then.

    • @swain-Ix1tv
      @swain-Ix1tv 3 роки тому +7

      and it's sad because they wanted to empower women and young girls but we literally couldn't even relate to the protagonists

  • @pilapilcahleenjyne6164
    @pilapilcahleenjyne6164 4 роки тому +5702

    How to make good female leads:
    Make good characters.THEN make them female.

    • @jonahdewitt2158
      @jonahdewitt2158 4 роки тому +283

      Or just make actual female characters with real female traits. No one wants women pretending to be men.
      EDIT: also, no, you can't design a good character and just genderswap them at the end. Men and women are different. A strong character has their gender decided early in the design process. You make a female character, THEN you make them good. Too many people just stop at the "make female" part and forget that that there's more to it than that.

    • @8015908
      @8015908 4 роки тому +82

      Sad thing is some of these movies that have all female lead characters were wrote by females themselves. It's like those female writers don't know how to write a female character.

    • @eug3nius
      @eug3nius 4 роки тому +7

      By making female characters good leaders, don't you make them masculine? The Mary Sue is the innate birthright value of the feminine projected by gender egalitarians onto masculine domains, where one is not born with value, instead value is is made by struggle, violence, competition and sacrifice.

    • @eug3nius
      @eug3nius 4 роки тому +3

      @Gerry C I actually saw a couple of Bourne movies but I don't remember her so she must have been a just a plot device.

    • @eug3nius
      @eug3nius 4 роки тому +2

      @Gerry C
      Ayn Rand didn't appreciate the feminine. Just like feminists.

  • @earllandry6341
    @earllandry6341 3 роки тому +13641

    Best female trio I've ever watched, are the powerpuff girls.

    • @paolocruz7917
      @paolocruz7917 3 роки тому +926

      Totally spies say hi

    • @caseytilley9260
      @caseytilley9260 3 роки тому +370

      Gotham City Sirens would like to say hello, but I do love the Powerpuff Girls and Totally Spies.

    • @-sussusamogus-7013
      @-sussusamogus-7013 3 роки тому +172

      Yeah that was some good shit

    • @KingConradVI
      @KingConradVI 3 роки тому +86

      Damn straight 👍

    • @User-ih9xq
      @User-ih9xq 3 роки тому +25

      Favts

  • @PHAToregon
    @PHAToregon 3 роки тому +6299

    We should have used this movie’s budget to feed starving kids.

    • @natrod8628
      @natrod8628 3 роки тому +390

      hell, burning the money would've been more useful to society than this movie

    • @wolverine9655
      @wolverine9655 3 роки тому +12

      @@natrod8628 true

    • @Giacomo_112
      @Giacomo_112 3 роки тому +37

      @@natrod8628 bruh

    • @SonGoku-wd4mi
      @SonGoku-wd4mi 3 роки тому +68

      @@natrod8628 No, we sholdve donated it to #teamtrees

    • @christianalpha5619
      @christianalpha5619 3 роки тому +21

      you wouldn't feed one homeless men because the money didn't make any profit

  • @SphereMusicCafe
    @SphereMusicCafe 3 роки тому +2769

    I loved the 2000’s Charlie’s Angels- they were fun, lighthearted, imaginative with unique feminine heroes. Not to mention the obviously gold star cast...Lucy Lu, Cameron Diaz, and Drew Barrymore have no competition and each of them were captivating to watch.

    • @weaboo6971
      @weaboo6971 3 роки тому +3

      @@adolfohernandez4307 this one is the tv show, right?

    • @SarahConLeche
      @SarahConLeche 3 роки тому +90

      I agree, even the second one wasn’t bad. And in that movie the characters were nerdy and strong but they had back stories and were so charming you kind of aloud suspension of disbelief just cause you liked them.

    • @jensenkansas567
      @jensenkansas567 3 роки тому +28

      Yasss Lucy was just so captivating

    • @TheDelta016
      @TheDelta016 3 роки тому +17

      Also none were kristen stewart levels of bland

    • @SarahConLeche
      @SarahConLeche 3 роки тому +14

      @@TheDelta016 Charlie’s Angels- Smart,Sexy Confident, Fun, Strong women. Whoever thought oh I know Kristan Stew in my own misery, should really reconsider a different career

  • @panpan1287
    @panpan1287 3 роки тому +3678

    Remember when female protagonists were actually characters
    Good times

    • @Tyrene
      @Tyrene 3 роки тому +147

      Kill Bill for example

    • @edmontonboy99
      @edmontonboy99 3 роки тому +203

      Terminator, Aliens, Veronica Mars.
      My childhood favorite Monsters vs. Aliens where the protagonist is a 50-foot woman that doesn’t brag about being a “strong woman” but instead we’re given a protagonist that is relatable the way she reacts to the environment around her, and there’s an instance where she’s mad at “doing everything” without getting help is genuine.

    • @fisheggs6755
      @fisheggs6755 3 роки тому +81

      We hit a very brief sweet spot, where we transitioned from weak-minded fragile women who are only house wives to Alien/Kill Bill, then we went to women are good at everything ever.

    • @panpan1287
      @panpan1287 3 роки тому +13

      @@edmontonboy99 if only Monsters vs Aliens was good movie
      God I hate that movie

    • @edmontonboy99
      @edmontonboy99 3 роки тому +45

      @@panpan1287 Monsters vs. Aliens is my guilty pleasure, but I respect your opinion.

  • @MahouShoujoTomato
    @MahouShoujoTomato 4 роки тому +6173

    I'm a woman, and I am SO tired of these feminist movies making every male character out to be either a useless or terrible person. Why can't they be empowering without completely degrading the opposite sex?

    • @eastlynburkholder3559
      @eastlynburkholder3559 4 роки тому +372

      I agree. To beat the male or to be better than the male isn't an accomplishment worth bragging about or watching. A worthy opponent and an interesting villain is needed in a story.

    • @cicolusnage2349
      @cicolusnage2349 4 роки тому +281

      This movies aren't even feminist. They're just forceful.

    • @axelsmith4722
      @axelsmith4722 4 роки тому +186

      because it's easier to make someone look powerful, intelligent etc... when you compare them with the lowest of the low
      In one word : Laziness

    • @eastlynburkholder3559
      @eastlynburkholder3559 4 роки тому +37

      @@axelsmith4722
      My dad has many great qualities. I say that first. However to play games (dominoes or cards or board games) with him is or can be painful. He needs to win in a childish way. I thought 'ok you have 500 or 5000 points for showing up at the table' and I suggested this to him but he refused it. My step mom said we declare you to have already be winning from before the first dice throw or card played and this he refused. I can enjoy a game if I am not the winning. I can enjoy polishing my skills and bettering my score and if the game allows by trying a different strategy.
      He wants to win and he is lavish and persistently petty and vengeful if he does not win. And it goes beyond that, you must lose. I enjoy beating you by sheer luck or by my brilliant strategy. However spoiling your win is not my only source of fun. I enjoy conversation during games and witty banter and mild mocking of other players. I also enjoy beating a good player. If the player were to be a fool or to be drugged so I could win, I would not enjoy the win.

    • @tigamaki1345
      @tigamaki1345 4 роки тому +49

      I really enjoyed most of the movie... but they did bosley so dirty. Every single guy is useless or an asshole and it kinda killed my vibe

  • @winstonteller9591
    @winstonteller9591 2 роки тому +29

    12:26 that's exactly what happens in 2018 She-Ra.
    There's a character named Catra, who has grown up in an abusive environment, and we as the audience are supposed to sympathize with her (even when she willingly commits an apocalypse), because she's a lesbian girl.
    And then there's another character named Kyle, who has also grown up in an abusive environment and is constantly bullied by LITERALLY EVERYONE AROUND, and the show treats bullying and abusing him as a joke and a running gag... because he's a boy (moreover, a gay boy). Seriously, Kyle has never even made any kind of a sexist joke in the show.
    I don't get it.

    • @co7769
      @co7769 Рік тому +2

      The same thing happens here but not to the degree of apocalypse. I saw in this video alone how time and time again the angels kept hurting their male adversaries even though they were clearly out of commission. I would have been ok with the movie but the fact the angels were just needlessly cruel is what really put me off. They seemed more like villains than heroes.
      A hero feels bad for hurting people and they usually try to avoid it as much as possible, villains are the ones that relish in kicking their opponents when they are down. Kind of like the angels in this movie.

  • @zylowolf7919
    @zylowolf7919 4 роки тому +1806

    The OG Charlie's Angels would've destroyed them.

    • @mainstreetsaint36
      @mainstreetsaint36 4 роки тому +47

      When you say OG, do you mean Farrah Fawcett, Kate Jackson, and Jaclyn Smith?

    • @IrbyPace
      @IrbyPace 4 роки тому +81

      Exactly. The OG tv series, or the McG movies actually had characters, interesting villains, etc.

    • @HarmonySword
      @HarmonySword 4 роки тому +43

      Timothy Dalbeck
      The Diaz/Barrymore/Liu trio are also amazing

    • @eew8060
      @eew8060 4 роки тому +14

      @@IrbyPace
      Yeah.. the OG, the McG's and these are the Wanna'Gs

    • @THETRIVIALTHINGS
      @THETRIVIALTHINGS 4 роки тому +97

      I really liked both the original and 2000's Charlie's angels. My generation was the 2000's one, so I watched those first. I loved how each of them had their own unique personality. Cameron Diaz was cute and hot with general smarts. Lucy Liu was this stoic, serious badass and was also technologically smart and Drew Barrymore was adorable and kind of "free-spirited" (not in a slutty way) with a dark past and was street smart. Even their smarts were unique to them. They complimented each other, instead of blending into each other. And then we have these wannabes...(-_-)

  • @srsaito9262
    @srsaito9262 4 роки тому +749

    "If the movie doenst goes weel its because men dont suport female at movies"
    Kill bill, Wonder woman, terminator 2 , alien: Shut up.

    • @hyperraidsaerofrights5649
      @hyperraidsaerofrights5649 4 роки тому +7

      Terminator 2? doesn’t Arnold and John get more screen time than Sarah?
      Or I mean I know terminator isn’t a female lead movie

    • @srsaito9262
      @srsaito9262 4 роки тому +42

      @@hyperraidsaerofrights5649 yes, but she was talking about strong woman, and I remenber to think that was a diferent actor from the first, because she was so ripped off, this is common today with woman in movies, but not in that time.

    • @hyperraidsaerofrights5649
      @hyperraidsaerofrights5649 4 роки тому

      Sr Saito right

    • @future-tm1tb
      @future-tm1tb 4 роки тому +1

      WW was not good better than Captain Marvel but it was not a great film sorry

    • @srsaito9262
      @srsaito9262 4 роки тому +6

      @@future-tm1tb I am not saying that is good, I am saying that it was supported, because of the huge money the estudio gained from the movie.

  • @onkelpappkov2666
    @onkelpappkov2666 4 роки тому +1773

    Remember, girls: You are valuable. You just need to learn to fight extremely well, be acrobatic, highly intelligent on a genius level, very good looking and entertaining and you need to be able to dance.
    But every woman can do that no biggie. So why can't you? Look at Kristen Stewart. She can do it.

    • @ghostlightx9005
      @ghostlightx9005 4 роки тому +47

      No she can't

    • @sawspitfire422
      @sawspitfire422 4 роки тому +182

      @@ghostlightx9005 thats the point

    • @rustyshackleford3160
      @rustyshackleford3160 4 роки тому +43

      I'm a Man, trying to learn to dance myself.
      Don't worry. Us guys have at least 1 flaw. Only 1 though

    • @leetlc441
      @leetlc441 4 роки тому +32

      @UCfRuEYoGq1fTUyc19InX3cA I would have to say you are quite wrong with your quip, sarcastic or not.
      Maintaining a thriving civilization is more dependent on leadership, specifically population control (not just increase), rules, and rule enforcement.
      So JUST making babies as a woman isn't directly important to the maintenance of that civilization.
      It is population control that DIRECTLY involves women's ability to birth, making her being a female important. JUST like men are required to impregnate. BOTH are required here, EQUALLY.
      Outside of reproduction, BOTH men and women are capable of doing OTHER important key things like building, working, farming, researching, teaching, and serving in the military which ALL (I would argue) are MUCH more important factors than reproduction. PEOPLE in general can work as much as needed for a thriving civilization while still being able to reproduce fairly quickly if required.
      Women's reproductive value is equal to men's. Further, I argue reproduction is NOT important at this point since the earth is becoming overpopulated.
      SO if your comment was a snarky way of saying "All men care about is women's reproductive ability" then stfu. Men in general do not behave as if or claim this is the case. If you weren't being snarky and actually meant what you said, then ALSO stfu. You are factually wrong.

    • @sjakierulez
      @sjakierulez 4 роки тому +14

      Kristen Stewart very good looking?

  • @nikolozka1
    @nikolozka1 4 роки тому +2063

    60 pound woman punching a 260 pound guy that flies across the room...
    Narrator: That's great, that we can understand...
    Laws of physics: Do you think we are a social construct or something here?

    • @LikaLaruku
      @LikaLaruku 4 роки тому +53

      Same thing with comics using obese superheroes running/jumping/fighting, or video games having 9ft tall 300lb muscle doing dainty stealthy thin-people things like martial arts, stealth sneaking, or archery.

    • @SearchOddiN
      @SearchOddiN 4 роки тому +173

      @@LikaLaruku The word you are missing from your own point, that your mind cant grasp just yet, is the word... SUPER.

    • @p3chv0gel22
      @p3chv0gel22 4 роки тому +84

      @@LikaLaruku well, that's the point of the classic "Superhero" like Superman. To be, what shouldn't be possible. A normal Person can't fly either

    • @user-vj4kc2wd4z
      @user-vj4kc2wd4z 3 роки тому +16

      @D Zuke you need practice in the trolling department

    • @ReiChiquita567
      @ReiChiquita567 3 роки тому +4

      @@LikaLaruku super heroes.

  • @axelcarvalho2661
    @axelcarvalho2661 4 роки тому +1154

    - What is your superpower, Cartman?
    - My superpower is the ability to have any superpower I need.
    South Park

    • @sohaibdeboss3100
      @sohaibdeboss3100 4 роки тому +12

      😂 goddamn still remember that episode and poor butters

    • @gkgk6439
      @gkgk6439 4 роки тому +1

      Gerry C That was amazing :,)

    • @markulyssestabasan3064
      @markulyssestabasan3064 4 роки тому +3

      That's actually genius. Thank you, Cartman.
      But seriously, wishing any superpower out of thin air is really powerful.

    • @mlgthuglife5528
      @mlgthuglife5528 4 роки тому +2

      My super power is throwing sand from my pocket into people's eyes

    • @clairedebeste5586
      @clairedebeste5586 4 роки тому +2

      @@gkgk6439 I think that was based on a video in JL. I believe it's this one ua-cam.com/video/UTEKkSFtcJE/v-deo.html

  • @Tazmo99
    @Tazmo99 4 роки тому +1212

    ”...And when everyone’s super, no one will be.”
    -Syndrome, The Incredibles(2004)

    • @hntrl8880
      @hntrl8880 4 роки тому +54

      Helen: "Everyone's special, Dash."
      Dash: "Which is another way of saying no one is."

    • @deshbhaktnationalist694
      @deshbhaktnationalist694 4 роки тому

      @@hntrl8880 why so? You are special too and why you aren't?

    • @maxriley3888
      @maxriley3888 4 роки тому +2

      You missed out the menacingly evil laugh in between! xD

    • @BlackWingedSeraphX
      @BlackWingedSeraphX 4 роки тому +3

      Did you just copy that other guy's comment?

    • @maxriley3888
      @maxriley3888 4 роки тому

      @@BlackWingedSeraphX me?

  • @perunplague9794
    @perunplague9794 4 роки тому +855

    Funny that the last Charlies Angels movie series easily defined the personalities of their characters. all three were pretty, flirty, and good fighters, but Lucy Lu was the techy person of the group, she was a bad cook, she was good with computers/electronics and came from a privileged upbringing. Cameron Diaz was the geeky/dorky one who was socially awkward, but also very book smart. Drew Barrymore was the hot headed, cocky one who was street smart and had a rough childhood, she also had bad taste in men

    • @serencefrostbite3362
      @serencefrostbite3362 4 роки тому +83

      was about to say just this, the real Charlies Angels movies were so good, each character had their own distinguish traits and all of them came out funny and cool and relatable.

    • @oddfreaks6452
      @oddfreaks6452 4 роки тому +21

      At least the Chad was great

    • @bacht4799
      @bacht4799 4 роки тому +9

      Wade don’t forget Sam Rockwell amazing dancing scene..

    • @ZchinoZ94
      @ZchinoZ94 4 роки тому +7

      I also love how well they written the male characters, compared to how one dimensional they make them now in any female lead action story nowadays. Lucy Lu's father was unconditionally supportive of her despite the hilarious misunderstandings of her line of "work," the Bosley's were pretty solid, with Murray's being a funny goofball but still got things done, and Mac's reluctant attitude on these high stakes missions but knowing he wouldn't let anyone hurt the Angels.
      Even as a kid when Bosley went from a *white* male to a *black* male, I didn't even question it because the characters were just so well done. I didn't need to be painfully struck over the head that a character has this obvious trait like _this_ Charlie's Angels did.

    • @dmacbass
      @dmacbass 4 роки тому

      And that's why those movies were awesome.

  • @optimusprimus89
    @optimusprimus89 Рік тому +12

    Only a movie with a motive like that would make a wholesome man like Sir Patrick Stewart a bad guy.

  • @boogiemoonie8252
    @boogiemoonie8252 4 роки тому +796

    I think I'm gonna stick with Totally Spies.

  • @yourbigheadcousin5434
    @yourbigheadcousin5434 3 роки тому +1479

    When movies like this say that "women can do anything" they mean is "really really attractive women" can do anything.

    • @AhmedEx1.
      @AhmedEx1. 3 роки тому +81

      "Really really really rich and semi attractive whamen"

    • @ploodomickey6194
      @ploodomickey6194 3 роки тому +12

      @Eren Yeager Kristen is pretty attractive

    • @jerromimuckle139
      @jerromimuckle139 3 роки тому +7

      None of these broads was attractive

    • @wilmagregg3131
      @wilmagregg3131 3 роки тому +22

      @@ploodomickey6194 when she isnt cutting her hair like a male anime protagonist maybe

    • @JustNatax3
      @JustNatax3 3 роки тому +42

      LOL how some here write they aren't attractive... Guys they are really conventionally attractive. You can dislike a person without being petty

  • @noname768397
    @noname768397 2 роки тому +21

    I feel bad to all the staffs and actors that signed contracts to participate in this dumpster fire

  • @Idontexisthihi001
    @Idontexisthihi001 4 роки тому +1107

    Jessica Jones
    Wonder Woman
    Terminator
    Alien
    3%
    Hunger Games
    The Previous Charlie’s Angels
    Etc...
    You know the difference between those franchises and franchises like Charlie’s angels? They had more to them than the gender of the protagonist

    • @absolutez3r019
      @absolutez3r019 4 роки тому +49

      @HaremGodRance also Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Xena, Star Trek Voyager and Stargate SG1. But these examples don't count because the male characters equals

    • @neonmaple5259
      @neonmaple5259 4 роки тому +35

      I like to add Angelina Jolie's classic "Tomb Raider"

    • @Al.j.Vasquez
      @Al.j.Vasquez 4 роки тому +24

      @@neonmaple5259 her Lara Croft now looks less unbeatable and unbearable thanks to these new do it all perfect female characters.
      I mean, there was a lot of bullshit in Lara Croft's action sequences in those movies, but now it's not that extreme, and it's obvious that Lara's character was much better written.

    • @WilliamMyPeterFitz
      @WilliamMyPeterFitz 4 роки тому +15

      Wonder woman was a enjoyable film

    • @HPGIRL1109
      @HPGIRL1109 4 роки тому +19

      YES, Jessica Jones actually has quite a lot of feminist messages and themes, but it's handled very well and effectively, it doesn't hit you over the head with it.

  • @itsamevaultboi6194
    @itsamevaultboi6194 4 роки тому +187

    Its like having all your protagonists be overpowered and invincible and always winning. No wonder people were bored of it, doesn't matter who or what was in it.

    • @alexandresobreiramartins9461
      @alexandresobreiramartins9461 4 роки тому +9

      But that's the one thing SJWs/feminists don't understand. They think that unless they make their heroes absolutely perfect, good at everything and invincible, no one will like the movie. And the reason for that is THAT'S how they see themselves: correct, perfect, everyone else is wrong and everyone should just bow to them and follow them. And then they get pissed when no one does - including other SJWs/feminists, because all these rabid animals know how to do is hate and so they have no loyalty to even their own peers.

    • @leiknirlogi7533
      @leiknirlogi7533 4 роки тому

      OnePunchMan has all those things and is a great show tho;)

    • @itsamevaultboi6194
      @itsamevaultboi6194 4 роки тому +1

      @@leiknirlogi7533 Yeah, in the context of anime, it works great. But Charlie's Angels isn't an anime now is it? Not so fun when it looks more realistic

    • @charlescain68
      @charlescain68 4 роки тому

      @@alexandresobreiramartins9461 damn bro, that's a record long jump to that conclusion u just made there...

    • @artandwriting6685
      @artandwriting6685 4 роки тому

      @@itsamevaultboi6194 It depends on the context of the story itself, not entirely because of the medium.

  • @toxicmasculinity3976
    @toxicmasculinity3976 4 роки тому +443

    "when everyone's super, no one will be."

    • @thomaseasley2938
      @thomaseasley2938 4 роки тому +28

      Damn that movie was great

    • @JesseGolo
      @JesseGolo 4 роки тому +22

      That line made people side with a homicidal narcissit because he said when he was done having fun with super powers, he'd sell them to normal people for a profit.
      *Shakes head: Yare Yare daze*

    • @EasyMoneyMid
      @EasyMoneyMid 4 роки тому +5

      Jesse Golo ahh a JOJOKE I see you're a man of culture as well

    • @giorgioguolo7196
      @giorgioguolo7196 4 роки тому +3

      Jesse Golo *an oil tanker for you*

    • @damocles8180
      @damocles8180 4 роки тому +1

      Lol good one.

  • @kennydoan2790
    @kennydoan2790 4 роки тому +1004

    It's ironic that Elizabeth Banks has a husband and two sons but her movie dehumanized men and she blamed men for her movie's failure.

    • @bimmer8602
      @bimmer8602 4 роки тому +74

      Feminist only hate ugly men, not tall, good looking ones.

    • @blackfalcon3752
      @blackfalcon3752 4 роки тому +6

      @@bimmer8602 what. ..

    • @blackfalcon3752
      @blackfalcon3752 4 роки тому +69

      She is sexist as hell. That's disgusting.

    • @stevenschnepp576
      @stevenschnepp576 3 роки тому +64

      You can still be racist despite having white friends.
      Likewise, you can still be sexist despite having a husband and sons.

    • @chuckfinley6747
      @chuckfinley6747 3 роки тому

      @David Walker obviously. Our mindless action movies are good.

  • @mretcon
    @mretcon 2 роки тому +9

    Filmento really really knows how to break down movies. He doesn't criticize a movie because he hates the message in it. No, he criticizes movies because they were made bad.

  • @ishaangupta5936
    @ishaangupta5936 3 роки тому +811

    A great example of a female lead is clementine from the walking dead games. She learns during the first game, puts here lessons to use and struggles in the second season, she overcomes as a hardened survivor during the third season, and learns humility and caring during the fourth

    • @Kur0YT
      @Kur0YT 3 роки тому +95

      Imo part of it is because she’s written as a character before being a female. Any well developed character should be interesting to read or watch regardless of what they have between the legs

    • @chuckolator1859
      @chuckolator1859 3 роки тому +11

      @@Kur0YT THANK YOU

    • @HEHE-to3tp
      @HEHE-to3tp 3 роки тому +5

      fr i love the walking dead game

    • @justanotherinquisitor7962
      @justanotherinquisitor7962 3 роки тому +23

      Season 1 Clementine: Lee, I'm scared. Where's my Mommy and Daddy?
      Season 2 Clementine : Okay, who are you and where are we going.
      Season 3 Clementine: I don't care who you are! If you try to stop me from finding my kid, you're dead meat!
      Season 4 Clementine: Oh lord, here we go again. I swear, I'm getting too old for this.

    • @metroided34
      @metroided34 3 роки тому

      Pretty sure S3 and S4 Clementine was written like ass.

  • @nimloc1670
    @nimloc1670 4 роки тому +216

    I'd just like to shout out the horror/thriller movie "The Descent", which has an all female main cast, who are depicted as normal people with flaws and are shown as badass and intelligent protagonists without reminding us that they're, in fact, females.

    • @blatherskite3009
      @blatherskite3009 4 роки тому +19

      Good call. In that film the fact that the leads are all female doesn't feel forced - it feels as natural as, say, the leads in "Deliverance" being a group of male friends. And, as you say, they're not presented as being impossibly perfect, and they don't feel the need to constantly remind the audience that they're women. It's really not so difficult to do female-led movies right - you just need to NOT add more gender-politics than is absolutely necessary to the plot.

    • @proudstrangelingstudios5345
      @proudstrangelingstudios5345 4 роки тому +9

      I totally agree “The Descent” is one of me and my brother’s favorite movies well shot well directed and a cast that is amazing and interesting

    • @spek888
      @spek888 4 роки тому +12

      also annihilation with natalie portman and a cast of females fighting albino monsters another good female cast movie

    • @autisticwhale2968
      @autisticwhale2968 4 роки тому +3

      That movie honestly gave me nightmares when I was younger. Couldn't watch it for years. Now it's one of my favorite films and the cast doesn't feel forced.

    • @mischiefmanaged1726
      @mischiefmanaged1726 4 роки тому +1

      holy shit forgot about that masterpiece

  • @AbsoLucian
    @AbsoLucian 4 роки тому +858

    Even John Wick has flaws, has to rely on others to survive, and struggles and John Wick is the pinnacle of Modern Male Action badassery

    • @chaosapoc
      @chaosapoc 4 роки тому +59

      Including a badass woman.

    • @chaosapoc
      @chaosapoc 4 роки тому +83

      @Randolf Peterson You can't even spell feminist, fucking moron.

    • @Vixa_Jaz
      @Vixa_Jaz 4 роки тому +10

      John Wick (especially the first one) will always be my favorite action movie.

    • @ultimonx9152
      @ultimonx9152 4 роки тому +4

      Randolf Peterson found the trump supporter

    • @grfrjiglstan
      @grfrjiglstan 4 роки тому +12

      I agree with Emperor Palpatine.

  • @GippyHappy
    @GippyHappy 2 роки тому +6

    The Angel's names according to this video:
    - The Tall Angel
    - Kristen Stewart Angel
    - Jasmine

  • @who-ny5oe
    @who-ny5oe Рік тому +5

    13:58 This is like if the director of Black Panther said if the movie fails and bombs at the box office then people are racist

  • @vsGoliath96
    @vsGoliath96 4 роки тому +2309

    "female led movies have become commonplace."
    You know what isn't commonplace? GOOD movies with female leads.

    • @yinscott8195
      @yinscott8195 4 роки тому +61

      what about the Alien series, the Resident Evil series and the Underworld series (well, the first few at least)

    • @Bronze_Age_Sea_Person
      @Bronze_Age_Sea_Person 4 роки тому +144

      @@yinscott8195 Most of the movies you've cited aren't of this generation AFAIK.

    • @yinscott8195
      @yinscott8195 4 роки тому +22

      @@Bronze_Age_Sea_Person Few of em came out only a few years ago, Aliens yeah was long ago. There are alot of good movies with female leads. "Girl in the spiders web" "The Hunt" and "Close" are a few not mentioned in the video that recently released that i think are quite good.

    • @yinscott8195
      @yinscott8195 4 роки тому +1

      Oh, "Rythm Section" and "Ava" too

    • @alec9829
      @alec9829 4 роки тому +35

      Yin Scott resident evil is terrible

  • @darianthomason4672
    @darianthomason4672 2 роки тому +9

    This is why i (as a women) NEVER even thought of watching this movie!!

  • @raihanmahajana3579
    @raihanmahajana3579 3 роки тому +905

    that "do u consent" lines is cringe to the points where it kills u inside

    • @sanjeethmahendrakar
      @sanjeethmahendrakar 3 роки тому +173

      And all they had to do to make it less cringe was make him say "May I?"

    • @n0m4r22
      @n0m4r22 3 роки тому +25

      Lmao was that actually in the movie?

    • @Coffee_Is_Magic
      @Coffee_Is_Magic 3 роки тому +110

      It's actually really disappointing that a "female empowerment" movie directed by a woman can't even demonstrate how to casually ask consent in a non-patronizing way 😒

    • @priciliar.s.simarmata2373
      @priciliar.s.simarmata2373 3 роки тому +8

      As a female, I say, indeed.

    • @arcweeb1619
      @arcweeb1619 3 роки тому

      what should there have been instead?

  • @MasseyKY
    @MasseyKY 3 роки тому +297

    It really bothers me that fim studios think women don't know when they're being pandered to. Between this, Ghostbusters and all the shoddy girl power stuff being released these days. It's cheap, we want Ripley, we want Furiosa, we want Wonder Woman, not this women are all powerful crap.

    • @Meme1man
      @Meme1man 3 роки тому +6

      I didn't felt satisfied with the character/plot development of Wonder Woman 2.
      Just my opinion.

    • @MrMalicious5
      @MrMalicious5 3 роки тому +4

      Those three characters you listed are all “i have a vagina, hear me roar” types.

    • @dirtyjamsgot1795
      @dirtyjamsgot1795 3 роки тому +13

      @@MrMalicious5 incorrect

    • @bricaaron3978
      @bricaaron3978 3 роки тому +9

      @@dirtyjamsgot1795 No, he's correct. They are pushing the so-called "feminist" narrative that a woman is not legitimate unless she is essentially a man. "Feminism" is actually anti-feminism.

    • @moonbulschair1047
      @moonbulschair1047 3 роки тому +2

      while all i want is a problematic person with lotssss of issues and tries to gives up multiple time but keeps going anyways.. just some real characters with some real flaws and obstacles.. not a kind one but tries to be.. stuff like that. Ugh.. when will they make something like this.

  • @spooderman6312
    @spooderman6312 2 роки тому +353

    "You know, Amy, anytime someone calls attention to the breaking of gender roles, it ultimately undermines the concept of gender equality by implying that this is an exception and not the status quo"
    -Knuckles the Echidna
    I know its not quite related to the topic of the video but I wanted to just post it here

    • @spectroelectro3772
      @spectroelectro3772 2 роки тому +16

      Knuckles is an egalitarian

    • @xavierphillips2581
      @xavierphillips2581 Рік тому +3

      Did he actually say this to her in one of the shows?

    • @Selrisitai
      @Selrisitai Рік тому +2

      It _is_ the exception. Assuming there's a problem with gender roles is what results in unhappy people leading unnatural lives, attempting to adhere to the lie that their natural biological urges are wrong.

    • @BryonYoungblood
      @BryonYoungblood Рік тому +8

      @@xavierphillips2581 Yep, in an episode of Sonic Boom and in a soccer game when Amy was talking about how she was gonna "break the glass ceiling" and prove a female can be just as good an athlete as a male, and when Amy, Sonic, Tails, and Sticks looked at him, all Knuckles said was "What?! Just because I'm a meathead doesn't mean I'm not a feminist!"

    • @xavierphillips2581
      @xavierphillips2581 Рік тому +1

      @@BryonYoungblood Hilarious!! Lol

  • @Malik_Maverick
    @Malik_Maverick 5 місяців тому +4

    The thing that made the 2000s Angels good is that the three ladies had a personality and “vibe”.
    Lucy was the hot Asian who was smart and used martial arts, Cameron was quirky and awkward but bubbly and was a more technical fighter, Drew was blunt and guy-crazy and was a street brawler.
    They each fit well into their respective styles and roles and it worked. They felt like they were good coworkers but also good friends. And the men weren’t this misandrist take on men. Bosley (both Bill and Bernie) felt like competent and fun bosses. Jason had the charm that Joey from Friends did (obviously same actor). Alex’s dad seemed shocked but empathetic finding out she was a spy. And Pete seemed like a good guy, albeit a little desperate but not pushy.
    Eric manipulates Dylan’s sexuality but you don’t get the gRapey feeling from him. He’s just a conniving villain. And Thin Man is fucking amazing!!!!!
    This version….had none of that. It’s also disheartening that in the post-credits scene, they let Laverne Cox have a cameo. No hate for transwomen but Charlie’s Angels is about WOMEN. Even the series from the 70s was women fighting against the patriarchy and showing they can be just as capable. The 2000s movies showed they can be sexy, smart, and deadly and multifaceted. To have a man who dresses as a woman and “acts” out the most hyper feminine aspects of female is gross and reductive.

  • @benwest3223
    @benwest3223 4 роки тому +716

    "So, how would you describe the heroine's character?"
    "*demographic*"

    • @jadedoak8868
      @jadedoak8868 4 роки тому +17

      I like my characters like I like my coffee. That is to say, defined by one or two characteristics.

    • @roadent217
      @roadent217 4 роки тому +18

      @@jadedoak8868
      I was hoping you would say "bitter"

    • @ProfiresKnight
      @ProfiresKnight 4 роки тому

      @@jadedoak8868 I thought you were gonna say white

  • @jesuschrist8336
    @jesuschrist8336 4 роки тому +2191

    "Charlie's Angels failed because male audience don't support female lead movies"
    I watched every Disney princess movie and I'm sure I'm not the only one who did.

    • @derbeste962
      @derbeste962 4 роки тому +46

      You sad it brother 🤝👏👏👏

    • @juststained
      @juststained 4 роки тому +42

      Well your Jesus, SOME of your followers BACK in your day treated women about as well as dogs so any support you give should be applauded ;-) Edited after so many people missed the irony/joke here.

    • @olly-7527
      @olly-7527 4 роки тому +10

      i do too jesus

    • @jungkodd
      @jungkodd 4 роки тому +19

      juststained shut yo bitch ass up

    • @prasadranjan1987
      @prasadranjan1987 4 роки тому +9

      Why they supported Wonder women?

  • @jay_mw
    @jay_mw 4 роки тому +286

    The ironic thing is a movie like this will probably hurt the self-esteem of younger women and girls. After all, if the message is women are always beautiful and can accomplish anything without a problem then most girls can't live up to that. However, if they were well-written characters the message could be that you will encounter troubles in your life, but if you play to your strength and persevere you can overcome them.

    • @ZanePalmer
      @ZanePalmer 4 роки тому +11

      Agreed. Let’s hope no youths draw inspiration from this film

    • @RedMin88
      @RedMin88 4 роки тому +4

      Most young girls don't keep a shit about this movie, i bet they care more about their favorite E-Boys than these "empowerment" movies...

    • @olotocolo
      @olotocolo 4 роки тому +4

      This movie and all the like are the exact same thing as Rambo 2+ and stallone smocks were to boys in 90s. I think we can start using term "toxic femininity" now because that is what they promote. Strong female - agressive, rude, nonchalantly dismissive mary sue

  • @luviana7520
    @luviana7520 4 роки тому +444

    I love how you address this problem: this movie failed not because it has female protagonists, but because there is no character development whatsoever.

    • @guyroni6233
      @guyroni6233 4 роки тому +4

      Shut up bigot

    • @hokagechuck6920
      @hokagechuck6920 4 роки тому +13

      Bruh you shut up... She agrees along with 10 likes including mine... You the only dislike . You look stupid right now.

    • @Wuuff
      @Wuuff 4 роки тому +9

      @@guyroni6233 such a good counter-argument, you definitely won this one buddy

    • @crowe3627
      @crowe3627 4 роки тому +4

      EXCEPT majority if not all Hollywood "boy" movies have zero character development whatsoever

    • @OEFarredondo
      @OEFarredondo 4 роки тому +4

      Nina Crowe not true, Fast and Furious movies. Albeit it took like 15 movies to give them any character development... ok maybe there is one out there. You know what? Burden of proof is on you!

  • @thewistfulsnail
    @thewistfulsnail 2 роки тому +16

    This is such a perfect breakdown of why the movie failed. Thank you for this.

  • @Otome_chan311
    @Otome_chan311 4 роки тому +1012

    Y'all ever notice how these "women can do anything" movies seems to absolutely degrade and hate the idea of women being feminine?

    • @Line...
      @Line... 4 роки тому +204

      women can do anything... except be feminine, fall in love with a man, get married, have children.... it appears women have to adapt masculine features in order to be strong

    • @taminy2051
      @taminy2051 4 роки тому +13

      No, I don't think so. I think they promote a toxid feminity they pretend to fight on the surface. They reduce humans to the plumbing between their legs.

    • @Otome_chan311
      @Otome_chan311 4 роки тому +4

      @@taminy2051 Besides the idiotic assumption that "it's female therefore feminine" can you please explain why you believe the film is an example of toxic femininity? Because literally nothing in it is feminine, let alone to a toxic degree. It's very clearly a masculine film, with a feminist lens.

    • @taminy2051
      @taminy2051 4 роки тому +1

      @@Otome_chan311 They try to contradict the standard US perception of what is femine so hard they end up envorcing it.

    • @Otome_chan311
      @Otome_chan311 4 роки тому +10

      @@taminy2051 wtf? no? they aren't feminine at all, sorry. if you believe violent fighting and "badassery" is feminine, then you're pretty delusional.

  • @AlwayzFresh
    @AlwayzFresh 4 роки тому +563

    A huge problem with the director of this movie was that even though this was her first movie, she refused to learn anything from it's failure and takes zero responsibility. She says it failed because men are bad. This movie is a visual representation of her personal problems. The movie is incredibly interesting interesting in that context. There are so very many possible angles to explore. What does this movie do for the idea of female led spy movies? What does it do for female led movies. Ultimately what has the director achieved in the long run?

    • @witchinspired9944
      @witchinspired9944 4 роки тому +7

      Agreed

    • @koalafromtomorrow5656
      @koalafromtomorrow5656 4 роки тому +15

      If anyone remember wrimtig in the English class don't insult your audience

    • @davidearea242
      @davidearea242 4 роки тому +9

      @@koalafromtomorrow5656 -"Wrimtig" ? WTF is that? Did you even do English class?

    • @donovanthefrog138
      @donovanthefrog138 4 роки тому +23

      @@davidearea242 calm down man, it's probably just a typo. Nothing to get heated about

    • @davidearea242
      @davidearea242 4 роки тому +1

      @@donovanthefrog138 - Calm down man. It's clearly a typo so what reason would there be for me to get heated about something that's so obvious? I simply asked the question. Nothing to get concerned about.

  • @TreWilder
    @TreWilder 2 роки тому +2066

    I'll say this. Drew Barrymore telling a room full of guys how she's gonna kick their asses, and then doing it while tied to a chair was one of the sickest moments I'd seen in a movie as a kid and still is.
    The action scenes in those movies were well choreographed, well executed and engaging in every way.

    • @sundalongpatpat
      @sundalongpatpat 2 роки тому +6

      @Parvika Singh LMAO

    • @michaelm7349
      @michaelm7349 2 роки тому +26

      And the MJ's Billie Jean

    • @robertoseveno
      @robertoseveno 2 роки тому +29

      @Parvika Singh Chrissst she did murder the moonwalk

    • @AB-qw7oo
      @AB-qw7oo 2 роки тому +45

      Then danced herself outta there after. Badass.

    • @adampower9757
      @adampower9757 2 роки тому +18

      @Parvika Singh that was supposed to be the moonwalk!!!? I thought it was her specific cute girl dance move.

  • @mountainous_port
    @mountainous_port 2 роки тому +7

    Kill Bill is a good film about female power without being sexist or feminist.

  • @notmisterepicface4308
    @notmisterepicface4308 4 роки тому +1735

    “...and when everyone’s super... *no one will be* “
    -Syndrome, The Incredibles
    Edit: Was not expecting the attention this comment got. Thanks for 1.8k likes!

    • @joelpocorni2716
      @joelpocorni2716 4 роки тому +20

      underrated comment tbh

    • @PikaLink91
      @PikaLink91 4 роки тому +30

      Great movie and great line, only I hate the whole cape joke. In the movie itself Etna's distaste for capes comes off as an exaggerated joke because of the obstacle it can become, but while offing the main villain with a callback to that disadvantage was clever, for me as a kid, watching a KIDS movie, it was also fucking DARK to have him chopped to pieces in jet engine instead just, you know, getting arrested or some shit like that. I have trauma from that movie and only ever watched it that one time because of it.
      Heck, I would have liked it 10 billion times more if he had been redeemed somehow.

    • @slavma9764
      @slavma9764 4 роки тому +2

      Strong female characters by the way

    • @ontrox
      @ontrox 4 роки тому +26

      Helen - "Everyone's special, Dash."
      Dash - "Which is another way of saying no one is."

    • @PikaLink91
      @PikaLink91 4 роки тому +1

      @@ontrox They can be special in different ways.

  • @cewkietron6571
    @cewkietron6571 2 роки тому +3

    I write as a hobby, and one of the most fun parts of putting together a character group who work together is delving into each character's differences. Seeing how one's strength can come in when another character falls short, or how even though they work together they don't always get along because their viewpoints vary. This movie seemed to try to "balance" all three girls out because they don't want one strength, like chemistry smarts, to be nitpicked as a "less cool" ability than being competent in combat. So then every girl is good at fighting and also something else, and we don't get the tension of thinking, "Oh no, she can't handle this! How's she going to resolve it??"
    Such missed opportunities. 😕

  • @VeryNotSober
    @VeryNotSober 3 роки тому +1368

    Virgin Girls in this movie:
    -No personallity
    -Skinny yet can beat up muscular people
    -Puts 0 effort in everything
    -Smart in a stereotypical way
    The Chad Ripley
    -Hot, but not because she really is. You just really like her as a character.
    -Severely flawed in the sequels
    -Unable to save everyone perfectly, yet tries very hard
    -Smart in an genius way

    • @randompeople8657
      @randompeople8657 3 роки тому +33

      If there's a manga or novel like this in reality. I doubt the writer or the drawer will earn any money to even eat. Read 1 chapter, drop instantly...

    • @fegeleinherman8587
      @fegeleinherman8587 3 роки тому +4

      @@randompeople8657 the Chad or the virgin one?

    • @joselandaeta6708
      @joselandaeta6708 3 роки тому +60

      The funny thing is that Ripley was meant to be a male character, but when they decided to give Sigourney Weaver the role, they didn't change any aspect of the character, it was more like: Well, it's gonna be a woman now, whatevs.

    • @fegeleinherman8587
      @fegeleinherman8587 3 роки тому

      @@joselandaeta6708 interesting

    • @maddoxio
      @maddoxio 3 роки тому +30

      @@joselandaeta6708 I believe they actually wrote Ripley without any gender in mind. They just kinda wrote "them" as a badass mechanical engineer. Then when casting, they had both men and women try out for it.

  • @mynameisvampka
    @mynameisvampka 4 роки тому +1707

    As a woman, I find this movie one of the most stupid movies ever existed.

    • @RaphaelLafera
      @RaphaelLafera 4 роки тому +35

      Underrated comment

    • @xwarped83
      @xwarped83 4 роки тому +55

      You don’t have to be a woman to find a movie stupid.

    • @dapperat8933
      @dapperat8933 4 роки тому +8

      @@xwarped83 people just like to shove that in comments for no reason lol

    • @ww.DuzaFizz
      @ww.DuzaFizz 4 роки тому +69

      @@dapperat8933 nah, because the film producers like to say the only people that hated it were 'the men' which is pretty shitty in itself

    • @spongebobmiscellaneous
      @spongebobmiscellaneous 4 роки тому +46

      @Team Spicy Wow, you’re dumb. The reason they said “as a woman” is because WOMEN were expected to like this. Not because they wanted to just throw that in there randomly.

  • @enricotoloy
    @enricotoloy Рік тому +3

    This version was nowhere near the 2000 versions of Drew Barrymore, Lucy Liu and Cameron Diaz. not even close. I have watched this out of curiosity and it's lame

  • @qasimshafiq4360
    @qasimshafiq4360 3 роки тому +435

    "Men don't watch movies with strong female characters."
    the powerpuff girls movie : ;-;

    • @HEHE-to3tp
      @HEHE-to3tp 3 роки тому +8

      wonder woman and alien🤦‍♂️

    • @robbieaulia6462
      @robbieaulia6462 3 роки тому +2

      I watched powerpuff girls a lot when I was a kid and I have to say it's a fun show

    • @velky_reeds
      @velky_reeds 3 роки тому

      I just watched Black Widow and I loved it

  • @octavia1996
    @octavia1996 Рік тому +13

    As a woman I approve of this message. ✅

  • @ZiroWatt
    @ZiroWatt 4 роки тому +592

    The word empowerment in itself is the first mistake when making a character. Superman and Batman did not exist to "empower" anyone, nor did Harry Potter or Obi-wan Kenobi. Arya stark was not, nor were Hermoine Granger, Lara Croft, or Princess Leia created for that purpose. When you start thinking of a character as a symbol or representation instead of as a person, just a person, you lose any interesting qualities and uniqueness about them, and they just become another flag for your overall agenda

    • @COVID--kf3tx
      @COVID--kf3tx 4 роки тому +4

      Idk i'd argue about leia, but you're right about the other ones

    • @ZiroWatt
      @ZiroWatt 4 роки тому +21

      @@jakelee7083 these are all themes that come with the idea of the superheroes themselves. The only reason this analysis can be done is because they are great characters with great stories, its an effect of that, not a cause. You can make the argument for any character that they empower someone, but they were not designed for that purpose, and that's the key. I also have no idea how homophobia relates to batgirl in the slightest

    • @ZiroWatt
      @ZiroWatt 4 роки тому +4

      @@jakelee7083 what does any of that have to do with homophobia? and batgirl isnt an excuse to have a love interest, shes a character in her own right I dont see your point here

    • @goondocksaints9597
      @goondocksaints9597 4 роки тому +1

      The secret to empowerment is responsibility. Responsibility is Kryptonite to women.

    • @gmuk101
      @gmuk101 4 роки тому

      I am not sure about Arya stark.

  • @dixienormous2661
    @dixienormous2661 2 роки тому +1435

    When you fight sexism with sexism, it cancels out, basic math.

    • @hellion6737
      @hellion6737 2 роки тому +1

      The "sexism" these people are fighting against are just basic biology. Now discrimination.

    • @khorehmandirani
      @khorehmandirani 2 роки тому +115

      @@Helena-me6mp I don't think they're implying that.

    • @regulus7754
      @regulus7754 2 роки тому +10

      Might even make stuff worse, idk

    • @philippundso2975
      @philippundso2975 2 роки тому

      thats the funny part. Same with racism, but if you say something about it you are the sexist or the racist and directly your argument (the valid it can be) is negated.

    • @anthonyjames838
      @anthonyjames838 2 роки тому +22

      If you add sexism to sexism it makes things worse,

  • @kimwiser445
    @kimwiser445 4 роки тому +632

    They did the same thing with the women’s Ocean movie. The characters weren’t likable, they were just criminals.

    • @SearchOddiN
      @SearchOddiN 4 роки тому +65

      Exactly. Ocean's movies were about a group of man that were good at what they were doing, stealing, planning the shit out of it, bring gimmicks, tricks and tools on the table to carefully execute said plan. But they also, had a human side, a side that showed us how fragile these men were despite the fact that they were arguably the best on the business.
      They told us that this characters, had honor despite being thieves and they will honor their words, promises and deals with people outside of their group. Ocean's movies are the type of movies you have on the background while you cook or do your taxes or some shit, it has a good premise, reachable characters, some positive moral values despite they were thieves and antagonists that fit on the plot.
      The females' ocean movie just grabs 2 female characters to be similar to Clooney's and Brad Pitt's characters and the rest are fillers that I bet they were made on the spot, after they cast all the female leads.

    • @Jayskiallthewayski
      @Jayskiallthewayski 4 роки тому +10

      I kinda liked the Oceans movie but there was no real agenda stuffed down your throat in every scene. Like Enola Holmes for instance, it's just force-feeding.

    • @BootyLicker6
      @BootyLicker6 3 роки тому +2

      And the ghostbusters movie to

    • @mariusvanc
      @mariusvanc 3 роки тому

      Ocean's 8 was.... fine. I think it was actually a great movie that appealed to women, without wall to wall anti-male or female empowerment agenda. It even did well at the box office.

    • @zahemi914
      @zahemi914 3 роки тому

      @@SearchOddiN yes I agree, I did enjoy watching Ocean bcoz it was more sensible than this 2019 Angels

  • @BeautyMarkRush
    @BeautyMarkRush 3 роки тому +402

    I find it funny that we had shows like The Powerpuff Girls (OG) and Totally Spies! that worked with female leads so greatly and now we have things like this, Rey Skywalker and Ms. Marvel.
    I mean, in Totally Spies, even as Sam, Alex and Clover are all capable, trained brawlers, because they are secret spies, and are those cliché shopping-and-fashion-obsessed teenage girls, you can still see their personalities clearly. Even though they are similar, you can still see that Alex is sport-minded, Sam is focused and studies hard, and Clover is the most superficial of the three, and the most flirtatious (often the comic relief of the episodes). That's an awesome way to say women can be everything. They can be "girly" and tough at the same time. That's what that show was about.

    • @wilmagregg3131
      @wilmagregg3131 3 роки тому +47

      and they didnt make butler a bubbling buffon or a arsehole more like a grandfather trying to teach his trade to his grandkids

    • @FrauZehel
      @FrauZehel 3 роки тому +23

      Thank you for reminding me of such a beautiful show i used to watch as a young boy. Time for a rewatch.

    • @TheTrueLordOmega
      @TheTrueLordOmega 3 роки тому +13

      "That's what that show was about." well, that and fetish fuel, god bless the lewd shit in that show.

    • @katusakirocks5630
      @katusakirocks5630 3 роки тому +2

      Just say Rey…please…

    • @brf09
      @brf09 3 роки тому

      ms. Marvel hasn't came out yet

  • @Turgon92
    @Turgon92 3 роки тому +320

    "When women(or any other character) by nature can do and be everything,the one thing they cant do is be unique"
    spot on

    • @Ashelybee
      @Ashelybee 3 роки тому +1

      5 minutes later on the internet: noo you copyed my fevorite UA-camr noooo

    • @Turgon92
      @Turgon92 3 роки тому +3

      @@Ashelybee I read that in a pjw voice 😂

    • @Ashelybee
      @Ashelybee 3 роки тому +1

      Damn

  • @WhyBeUgly
    @WhyBeUgly 4 роки тому +885

    It seems that, to feminists, a strong woman is someone who can beat the shit out of men. Which is about the most shallow idea of strength there is.

    • @helenjohnston4154
      @helenjohnston4154 4 роки тому +77

      thats not real feminism and i'm tired of these "feminist" movies and tv shows showing it as such

    • @sl2547
      @sl2547 4 роки тому +17

      Also the concept of "alpha" in a nutshell.

    • @cmc5394oparva
      @cmc5394oparva 4 роки тому +45

      It's all just projection. These types are constantly complaining about "toxic masculinity," but their portrayals of women end up mimicking the very thing they complain about. The action movies of the 80s had more self-awareness.
      It's a lot easier to assume that anything these people are accusing their enemies of, is exactly what they're doing, because that's how it typically turns out.

    • @_CENSOR3D_
      @_CENSOR3D_ 4 роки тому +13

      That’s because feminists are the most shallow people out there.

    • @dubya724
      @dubya724 4 роки тому +17

      Especially with the concept of “You never hit a female...even if she full on physically attacks you unprovoked.” Women can do “anything” except take what they dish out🙃

  • @danielrubinstein896
    @danielrubinstein896 2 роки тому +6

    If elizabeth banks can't redeem herself as a director after this, then she should stop (maybe even for a while) directing anything

  • @edisondixon4973
    @edisondixon4973 4 роки тому +764

    Men don't watch female led movies? Funny how they can say that when movies like The Underworld, and Resident Evil had such massive fan base and were pretty much in the top 10 movies of their times, even though they are female led movies. Pretty kickass leads btw.

    • @alexgalvez7506
      @alexgalvez7506 4 роки тому +35

      True but it’s more forced diversity these days

    • @lastpringle8904
      @lastpringle8904 4 роки тому +58

      And if they wanted to have that "women can do anything" idea, why not make a woman the villain
      It's already been shown that a woman can be a good villain
      Hela from Thor Ragnarok, Shego from Kim Possible, Black Cat from Spider-Man, there are so many good female villains and frankly I would love more of them

    • @edisondixon4973
      @edisondixon4973 4 роки тому +20

      @@lastpringle8904 true, but i guess it would contradict their whole campaign of women all being good and men all being bad. A message that's a pretty far cry from reality.

    • @SuperHeroes201YT
      @SuperHeroes201YT 4 роки тому +5

      Alien?

    • @stephenattwood
      @stephenattwood 4 роки тому +17

      Aren’t all of the alien movies female lead without ever shoving it in your face?

  • @Ryusuta
    @Ryusuta 4 роки тому +573

    Can you imagine if The Avengers were pitched this way?
    "Who is Captain America?"
    "He's the brave, heroic one that can do anything."
    "Who is Iron Man?"
    "He's the brave, heroic one that can do anything."
    "Who is Black Widow?"
    "She's the brave heroic one that can do anything."
    "Who is Thor?"
    "He's the brave, heroic one that can do anything."
    "What are their character flaws?"
    "Character flaws...?"
    (Then again, they kinda do this with Captain Marvel, so nevermind.)

    • @anastasiablazhenova3692
      @anastasiablazhenova3692 4 роки тому +19

      thank you, I was thinking in the same direction but you put it so nicely in words!
      Both original angels here can fight because IT IS THEIR JOB, they were selected on this basis and trained to be able to do it. As well as being smart is obviously required for this job.

    • @anastasiablazhenova3692
      @anastasiablazhenova3692 4 роки тому +21

      Gerry C the author of the comment never said that mentioned traits of MCU characters are the only traits they have. What was written is just illustrates that the fact that several characters have some similar traits (“brave” and “heroic”) doesn’t mean we can’t tell them apart.
      Thats why when in the video it is said “how are we supposed to tell them apart if they are all smart and bad ass????” it makes no more sense than saying “how are we supposed to tell mcu characters apart if they all are brave and heroic????”
      of course individualities of mcu characters are very well shown while CA individualities are shown poorly, and this is the problem, not that all of them are smart and can fight - but for some reason video keeps repeating that the problem is that if all 3 characters can both fight and are smart, then viewers can’t tell them apart 🤷‍♀️

    • @Rapidpanda1st
      @Rapidpanda1st 4 роки тому +11

      @@anastasiablazhenova3692 I agree with what you're saying; it's quite a black and white statement in the video to say "we can't tell them apart" just because they share character traits. I think the core idea we're all digging at is this: There's nothing wrong with Charlie's Angels being an in-your-face female lead story, but the writers had the opportunity to build three very unique characters, but they just made one character three times.
      In real life (and in engaging, relatable writing) each of these characters would have clear strengths and weaknesses which compliment each other. It would have opened the door to messages about supporting and uplifting your fellow woman, your weakness is someone else's strength, a group is greater than the sum of its parts, etc.
      Instead they went with the image of three intelligent, athletic, witty, funny and strong leads who can each independently breeze through any obstacle in their way because "of course we can...and you can too!"
      The message is great and we need more of it, but this movie became a slave to its message and robbed itself in order to serve it.

    • @CTRL.Gunpla
      @CTRL.Gunpla 4 роки тому +3

      I agree with what your saying but captain marvel had good roles from males too. And in endgame it didn’t feel like she was the only one to contribute in the fight

    • @Gunth0r
      @Gunth0r 4 роки тому +4

      To be fair, Captain Marvel was seriously scarred and conflicted, throwing up a barely convincing façade of "I can manage, all's good and well". Brie got a lot of flack, but I could identify with her and I found her acting good. I didn't look too much into all the drama, I just watched the movie.

  • @grumpyoldwizard
    @grumpyoldwizard 2 роки тому +4

    I don’t have a problem with strong characters. My biggest problem is that they cannot do this without degrading, mocking, and making others feel inferior. It comes off as arrogance.

  • @marcusmartin5758
    @marcusmartin5758 4 роки тому +457

    I like charlie's angel with drew, lucy, and cameron.

    • @henrymccoy2306
      @henrymccoy2306 4 роки тому +14

      Tbh that was more of a comedy than an action movie so they could hide any mistakes they made

    • @cbrowntv
      @cbrowntv 4 роки тому +8

      Classic!

    • @90AlmostFamous
      @90AlmostFamous 4 роки тому +33

      Henry McCoy are u saying this new one has more action than old one ? Coz last time I checked Lucy actually knows martial arts. And it has few memorable moments like the barracuda sassy leather teacher scene 🤣

    • @btsandtheirarmiessuckscock7043
      @btsandtheirarmiessuckscock7043 4 роки тому +3

      Henry McCoy no u dumb

    • @animeangel1983
      @animeangel1983 4 роки тому +13

      The fact that I never even heard there was a 2019 Charlie's Angels movie speaks to how it was going to fail no matter what. I'll stick with the 1999 one thx.

  • @CarTa3
    @CarTa3 7 місяців тому +4

    Not to mention they use Kristen Stewart who is basically a man as one of the angels. They hate men but cast someone who wants to be a man so bad

  • @terah101
    @terah101 3 роки тому +82

    Ripley in Alien (Sigourney Weaver's character) was originally written gender neutral so they could audition BOTH men and women for the role. Sigourney gave the best audition and that's why they went with her, creating one of the most iconic action stars of all time. There was no ''gender agenda'' with the writing or casting, it was simply a very talented individual playing a well written character and that's what made it successful.

    • @hiddenintheshadows1469
      @hiddenintheshadows1469 3 роки тому +2

      Didn't know that (about Weaver), thanks for sharing.

    • @lolloo92
      @lolloo92 3 роки тому +3

      Not quite true. Ripley was a man in the script but then someone in the team asked Ridley if it was super important if Ripley was a guy and he said no. The intention was that Ripley was going to be a male, after meeting Weaver they gave the role to her and I guess Weaver gave the role her own spin after that. But Ripley is an icon!

  • @darthzayexeet3653
    @darthzayexeet3653 3 роки тому +492

    Now imagine if someone made the opposite movie, where men are portrayed as saints and women as devilspawn. Imagine how many women would watch and like this movie...

    • @olymolly3637
      @olymolly3637 3 роки тому +84

      Plot twist: if the Male characters are hot, women would support the movie nonetheless. Even more so if the characters have solid relationships with each other. In short, it's not the gender that matters.

    • @thegreyeyedcat9142
      @thegreyeyedcat9142 3 роки тому +107

      Don't need a movie for that, just go to 4chan or any incel page

    • @yasminthespiritsinger7704
      @yasminthespiritsinger7704 3 роки тому +23

      @@thegreyeyedcat9142 Shut up and take my like, you genius.

    • @mailin6400
      @mailin6400 3 роки тому +14

      We don’t need to imagine. We already have feminists screeching about how women are potrayed in games and movies

    • @abhrobhuniya5009
      @abhrobhuniya5009 3 роки тому +4

      I doubt even men would watch and like this movie. Nah we guys always wanna beat up bad guys, and we wanna see that shit too.

  • @noelkorf5018
    @noelkorf5018 Рік тому +3

    I think the perfect example of how to make the perfect movie like this is the 1990 film La Femme Nikita. It really is a masterpiece and would be a fantastic film for you to do a video on.

  • @SILOPshuvambanerjee
    @SILOPshuvambanerjee 2 роки тому +2

    Being a Chemical engineer I found this extra cringey

  • @SiddharthShenoy
    @SiddharthShenoy 3 роки тому +652

    To quote Syndrome:
    When everyone is super
    **laughs**
    No one will be.

    • @carolinag2106
      @carolinag2106 3 роки тому +45

      To quote anakin sywalker:
      “I don’t like sand”

    • @bargoladexterjay5424
      @bargoladexterjay5424 3 роки тому +25

      @@carolinag2106 It's coarse,rough,irritating and it gets everywhere

    • @firecrackerz7782
      @firecrackerz7782 3 роки тому +4

      I HATE YOUUUUUUU!!!!!

    • @jaspreetkahlon7862
      @jaspreetkahlon7862 3 роки тому +1

      I have brought peace, freedom, justice and security to my new empire

    • @weezerfan1232
      @weezerfan1232 3 роки тому

      Mr incredible is a total dilf.

  • @pyrromanis
    @pyrromanis 4 роки тому +106

    Do you want good films with strong Female lead character? Go watch any of Hayao Miyazaki's films! He really knows how to write a good aspiring Female protagonist

  • @BlackCatFilmProductions
    @BlackCatFilmProductions 2 роки тому +3

    Reading the comments here it proof that Elizabeth Banks' version of Charlie's Angels has displeased both males and females. Being a woman also, I'm looking for a sense of balance between genders in movies and tv series. That both males and females can work together as well as be enemies of each other. In this movie it makes out the female are the heroes and the male are the enemies. Clearly Elizabeth Banks has some serious trust issues and shouldn't bring them into a production.

  • @kumi3127
    @kumi3127 4 роки тому +448

    This one just looked so bland and plain. The 2000s Charlie’s Angel’s was slapstick and corny, and the director knew it and owned it, making it stand out. Each of the characters had their own backstory and personality that allows them to work best as a team. This one was just so...boring looking.

    • @lunalluna9401
      @lunalluna9401 4 роки тому +11

      The dialogue in Charlie's angels 2 was so corny that I knew it word for word, I haven't even watched this movie and I'm already bored.

    • @jessejive117
      @jessejive117 4 роки тому

      Kumi dude the joker 2000 CA is so funny

    • @MegaAndyGG
      @MegaAndyGG 4 роки тому +6

      And there were also women as bad guys.

  • @AzafTazarden
    @AzafTazarden 4 роки тому +467

    "Women can do anything": yes
    "Women can do everything": no
    No one can do everything, not even men, and if they can then there is a very good explanation or it's just a bad movie.

    • @mr.paperbag771
      @mr.paperbag771 4 роки тому +54

      I would like to use John Wick as an example.
      He seems perfect in every aspect of the film but he's not. He's extremely good and well-trained soldier/hitman but anything than that he's sub par. And even while fighting he still takes damage and has scars from his previous fights.
      He is not so savvy, he is very blunt with his interactions with others. He just has a lot of fighting experience and he isn't just running guns blazing without a care in the world. He could die if an enemy got lucky but Wick makes it damn sure the enemy won't have the chance to get lucky.
      Wick is also nothing without his safety net.

    • @stephenmackland5097
      @stephenmackland5097 4 роки тому +6

      Exactly why people find it so hard to understand this

    • @KBShow-bw4lj
      @KBShow-bw4lj 4 роки тому +16

      @@mr.paperbag771 and thats exactly why john wick is So good , i won't be suprised if someone like him existed in real life

    • @boscojokey3829
      @boscojokey3829 4 роки тому +1

      Only Batman can do everything

    • @cthulhubecausewhynot1182
      @cthulhubecausewhynot1182 4 роки тому +3

      bosco jokey Except have living parents

  • @erlienfrommars
    @erlienfrommars 2 роки тому +4

    It's fascinating how overly emphasized gender obsession movies tends to fail spectacularly in the box office and the ones to blame are always the male audience ignoring(?) them

  • @MeadowReal
    @MeadowReal 3 роки тому +618

    It’s kinda like the new Star Wars Rey thing where she never struggles and it makes the story boring

    • @PrincessMavenKittyDarkholme
      @PrincessMavenKittyDarkholme 3 роки тому

      Or mera

    • @Flinsenberger101
      @Flinsenberger101 3 роки тому +37

      Or like Captain Marvel.
      Or Birds of Prey.
      Where we are supposed to like characters because they are the protagonists, but that are bland and actually behaving obnoxiously, unlikeable, weak or even plain evil.

    • @darinanikolova4626
      @darinanikolova4626 3 роки тому +3

      Rey is good character. And I am pretty sure that it was male all boys that hate on her were going to like him

    • @Flinsenberger101
      @Flinsenberger101 3 роки тому +33

      @@darinanikolova4626 Rey is interesting in TFA. Then gets Mary Sued in TLJ and made insignificant (or ridiculed) in TRoS.
      If you like her, fine. The character, however, suffered as heavily from the lack of creative direction as did the whole trilogy. And that really isn't a male/female thing. Finn suffered even more.
      My favorite young female Star Wars fan prefers Ahsoka Tano to Rey any time of the day.

    • @GeneralChangFromDanang
      @GeneralChangFromDanang 2 роки тому +3

      Rey's a pretty cool guy. It flaps its vagina and doesn't afraid or anything.

  • @Trustyzaney
    @Trustyzaney 4 роки тому +316

    Honestly the movie was really bad.. It bored me.. And its not true that men don't support female action movie.. Every demographic loved the Cameron diaz Charlie's angels. Wonder Woman was so great because the plot was excellent.. Alot of writers fail to realize that they can't make their movie too gender obsessed and one sided it just make for a boring time at the theater. King Author legend of the sword flopped for the same reasons it was too male oriented

    • @DavidtheGiantSlayer
      @DavidtheGiantSlayer 4 роки тому +7

      Okay so to start I'm not trying to come off as rude(that's the problem with typing you can't really hear if they're trying to be a dick or just talking so had to throw that out there). So firstly, I love King Arthur just because I liked the plot and character development. Was it mainly male sided? Yeah I probably would've liked to see more women fighting too instead of just that sorcerer girl. Woulve made it better but I still liked it and everyone is entitled to their own opinion so I get why you didn't like it. But secondly Wonder Woman was fucking amazing. I loved that movie. I can't wait for the next one! Last of all, I remember watching the ORIGINAL Charlie's Angels show. Like sorta muffled sound original. My dad and I used to love watching that and other classics. I saw the movies and I loved those too, they made me laugh my ass off and honestly they were pretty badass. This new one however, I knew wasn't going to go well after they said "This movie is for women" and I just sat there looking at my phone screen like "What the fuck?" I had seen the movie on the "What's Coming Out This Year?" List and got excited until I saw that comment. Then I watched the trailer and I knew this would flop. Long story short, thank you for helping me not waste my time watching this movie. Also sorry this comment is so long

    • @brav0echon0va54
      @brav0echon0va54 4 роки тому +14

      Anyone who says men don’t support a female led action movie is deluded.
      Just look at the Alien franchise.
      The sequel Aliens is a particularly good example of a movie that empowers women.
      Ripley’s feminine nature is emphasized a number of times, especially in comparison to the exaggerated masculinity of the marines (including the female marine).
      And yet despite this, Ripley grows to be the toughest, most bad-ass of all the characters.
      In fact, it’s the “protective mother” aspect of her character that makes her transformation into an unstoppable warrior so believable and relatable.
      And as for male support?
      Well let’s put it this way; does anyone believe it was female fans that made it the blockbuster franchise it has become?

    • @WolvenDragonZ
      @WolvenDragonZ 4 роки тому +9

      Kinda reminds me of learning why Disney changed the title from "Rapunzel" to "Tangled" and included Flynn on the poster. People generally like seeing characters they can instantly relate to, and if every character who looks like you is deemed "the bad guy", "deserves bad things" or nonexistent, then it's going to be hard for you to get into it.
      Also, anytime a creator claims if their work fails, it's the audience's fault, you know it's going to be shit.

    • @JT-bt6jy
      @JT-bt6jy 4 роки тому

      Word. King Arthur for me sucked. Not because it was filled with men??

  • @SuperLlama42
    @SuperLlama42 4 роки тому +285

    Any other ensemble action movie: "We're putting together a crack team of special operatives. First, there's Brick Fistington, who can punch your soul right out of your body. Here's Gun Shootman, who's mastered every firearm. Here's Sneaky Thiefberg, who can slip past any defense unnoticed. Here's Billard Nyel, the Science Gent. He can turn everything in your refrigerator into an explosive."
    Feminist Charlies' Angels: "Here's Girl A, B and C. They can all do everything equally so they're completely interchangeable and forgettable. Girl power."

    • @Orange_Swirl
      @Orange_Swirl 4 роки тому +8

      This is just hilarious.

    • @joysethvaldez9362
      @joysethvaldez9362 4 роки тому +8

      Underrated comment

    • @marxthesocialist5231
      @marxthesocialist5231 4 роки тому +5

      Byllard Nyle😂

    • @MagnusTonitrum117
      @MagnusTonitrum117 4 роки тому +2

      Billard Nyel sounds like a great name if Bill became a hitman

    • @NarwahlGaming
      @NarwahlGaming 4 роки тому +10

      When they're all dressed alike and looking in the mirror, I, literally, couldn't tell which was was Kristen Stewart.
      That's how bland they all are.