Great job guys.. I actually just picked up the Olympus 40-150mm f4-5.6 for $50 on Craigslist from someone who never used it. I am shocked with the shapness, its better than it is suppose to be..not 2.8 but for $50?
It's amazing to see the "tiny" Pany combo did a great job. It's absolutely amazing compact for the focal length it covers at F2.8 with image stabilization. For me the Pany won in this shootout.
Chris, you and Jordan consistently make the most watchable, interesting, and entertaining photography videos on UA-cam. This one in particular was hilarious. Really enjoy the banter and the chemistry you two have together. Keep em coming with more of Jordan in front of the camera with you!
you didny mention that the Oly is a varifocal lens (compared to the Panny, where it loses focus as you zoom in or out). I'm switching the Oly (from my Panny) for this reason. I'll use to film dance recitals. On a tripod so no need to OIS.
Just stumbled onto this comparison, awesome video guys. I too was deciding between the two. Ultimately I ended up choosing the panny 35-100 due to more portable size. Paired with the oly 12-40, most versatile combo for travelling 😃
Hi, in 2024 i use my lumix lenses with my olympus em1x. I have the 12-35 f2.8 and 35-100 f2.8. Its a great compact lens set up if you do portraits or dont want to tote around a big boy lens like a ff 100-400. @nguyentrieuphuc4007
Great chemistry, even the scripted bits. Awesome job. As a video guy, I'd love to see more of Jordan, even if his hair isn't nearly as majestic. Sorry Jordan.
So really late to the party. I just picked up the Panasonic 35-100 f2.8 mkii for my Olympus e-m1mkiii. It's a great size and weight. Very sharp with fast focus. Plus cheaper than the Olympus.
Great video, thanks ! Considering the price of the Olympus I was more hesitating between the Olympus M.Zuiko Digital ED 40-150mm f/4-5.6 and the Panasonic 35-100mm F2.8 which one would you recommend ?
Great comparison guys, thanks! One other thing I would be curious to see compared is the effectiveness of the oly IBIS vs the panny OIS at longer focal lengths. I'm thinking the Lanny may have the advantage there. That said, the availability of a teleconverter for the Olympus is very appealing, provided the IBIS can keep up.
You guys are the best! This is the best video I've seen from you guys. Very funny!! I have the Panny 35-100mm and nothing can beat it! It's tiny and the contrast and colour rendition is off the charts!! If i wanted a lens as big as the 40-150mm i would just go full frame...
So big question is does the lens hood for the Olympus actually work? I hate carrying lens hoods and have been seen using my hand to block flare. If the lens hood has some purpose instead of just taking up space, I might actually use it instead of my hand.
I can't believe that Chris said that stablisation only matters for video. I want a fast telephoto so I can take photos in darker indoor locations such as school halls. Even at f2.8, I often want to slow the shutter speed down, so stabilisation is very important.
simianinc I can't believe that either, as I didn't hear him say so. So I trust you that he said so. But the IBIS is extremely helpful on still photography, especially the Olympus 5 axis (that is superior to Sony) that makes beginners camera handling like they would have handled the camera for years. Beginners gets so much forgiven by their lacking skills handling the cameras because Olympus IBIS. And when you have skills to handle the camera correctly, the IBIS allows you to do amazing things. Like my record now is having at 150mm focal length totally sharp images with 6 second shutter speed... And that is without using any support by standing and success rate for that was about 40% (toke 5 shots and two were totally sharp). So when taking still photographs it is extremely helpful. Last time really needed that IBIS was being in museum that electricity was cut off so all lights were off. Flash not allowed so only way to get photos was handheld. ISO 800, shutter speed 1/1.3, 30-40mm and f/4, it was 100% success rate without any kind problems. Just pure joy to use camera and all shots were even taken from hip, using just the rear display. That is 7-8 stop effectiveness for IBIS, just pure bliss. I have only tested E-M5 II in store test room and while E-M1 IBIS is to same level, the E-M5 II IBIS wins in three things: 1) In video, as the IBIS keeps the video more still instead follow the small movements. 2) Macro photography, the very small and light shakes can be visible in macro but new IBIS gyro sensors sense that better. To make E-M1 IBIS as effective in macro, you need to shake the camera to get its gyros detect movement and keep it still :D. 3) Long exposures, the E-M5 II algorithm knows when the camera should be still and holds it still better. I will definitely upgrade to E-M1 successor once it hits stores as that IBIS for macro photography is just amazing. For long telephotos or long exposures there isn't such a problem. As often I have forgotten ND filters for long exposures for flowing water in daylight. So I need to use ISO Low and f/22 to get shutter speed to one second at longest and still get perfectly sharp photos (what the small diffraction problem allows). If I have the ND8 filter with me I get the required 2-4 second shutter speeds and yet handheld camera. And if wanted to get even better results for handheld indoor long exposures (like 1/2 second etc), set the IBIS disabled by half-pressing shutter, so it will get enabled only when releasing the shutter. As it does wonders when the sensor is centered when exposing it instead already moving when releasing shutter. Oh and almost forgot, Chris should know that what kind pleasure it is to use long telephoto objectives handheld when the viewfinder is stabilized and you are following a flying bird or jumping cars/bicycles etc.
I don't have the 40-150 here, but the 35-100 is a tough lens to beat, and if you don't mind picking up an extra lens such as a adapted 135mm or a R 40-150 from oly you will do ok if you have the pana for many things.
Question for you. Where would you tell me to go (research, school, online courses, college courses) if I am am an absolute beginner wanting to change careers to photography? First things first, I know absolutely nothing about cameras and how they work. The lingo is foreign to me. Knowing this, where shall I begin? Thanks for your input Kelly :)
Now that the GX85 has 5 axis in body stabilization, would The Camera Store guys now say Olympus Lenses are now preferable for video as they have hard manual stops? Or do you guys still prefer the dual stabilization option that Panasonic only lenses have. My thoughts is that perhaps the hard manual stops is more worth it.
The extra reach of the Oly looks handy for wildlife, and that macro ability is lush. Though the sheer size is a little intimidating, especially as a backup zoom to be hauled around with an even bigger telephoto. And no stabilisation! Go for Panny, suck up the zoom cutoff, and pack an extension tube...?
@@MarchalisVan I did not like it for the image it produced. Kept it for 3 mos. tried my best to get and image, landscape, that I felt it should produce. Now, cityscape might be completely different?!
@@MrFirstdance2000 Might be manufacturing variation? mine is among the sharpest lenses I have, which includes the olympus 25 F1.2 and the Sigma 56mm F1.4. not as sharp as the Sigma.. that's my sharpest lens :S Sample variation is real.
Great choices. I've used the Panasonic 35-100 f 2.8 on an Olympus E-M1 and it is a great combo. The E-M1 handles beautifully. I look forward to using that 40-150mm.
Hi, I know this an older video but wanted to know if you can help me out with a question concerning the Panasonic 100-300mm lens. which lens is a sharper lens the Panasonic Lumix G Vario 100-300mm f/4-5.6 II POWER O.I.S. Lens which is the newest version or the older one? I'm planning to buy either version 1 or 2 but want to know if it's worth the almost $200 dollar difference when it comes to sharpness and speed to get focus. Thanks.
Love the banter! I'm with Jordan though - even though the Olly 40-150mm is smaller than an equivalent DSLR lens it still looks like a beast. Love the compact nature of the Panny G/GX series with the 35-100.
I agree with how Jordan rapped it up at the end, the Pani 35/100 is more in line with what micro 4/3 systems are all about, small size, once you get into lenses the size of the 40/150, you start to question the portability factor, but the Olympus is a really nice lens, and it is still small compared to a full frame equivalent, but if I was to buy a micro 4/3 camera, for me it would be to get away from the size and weight of my full frame camera, so I would want to keep my lenses small, but like Jordan said, if 4/3 is your only system, then I could see getting the 40/150 lens, now that I think about it, I think Jordan made more good points than Chris in this video haha, but I find it funny that Jordan doesn't know how to use a camera for still photography, but no funnier than me not knowing to much on the video side, as far as a review goes, I think the two guy thing works well, you two are like the Siskel and Ebert of cameras
The Siskel and Ebert feel is exactly what we're going for, thanks for catching that! For the record, I do know how to work a still camera, Chris was just breaking balls because I shoot a lot more video than stills. Jordan @ TCSTV
Then don't get a longer focal length. Your argument doesn't hold the water as m4/3 system is always smaller than small format camera with same focal length. And the difference only grows when longer focal lengths comes in play with equivalent angle of view and light density. The smaller 35-100mm is 50mm shorter than 40-150mm and that brings the size difference, that is negligent between those two but looks different because other had hood and tripod collar.
photographerjonathan Once you factor in the compromise in DoF a smaller sensor incurs, you come to see the greater size and weight of the Olympus with a greater range as a compromise worth the while. Not to mention its delightful physical constriction.
Great review guys! Question, maybe mostly to Jordan, who was using the 35-100. Several people have complained about micro jitter when shooting handheld with OIS on the 35-100. Is this something you have seen? I am trying to determine if it is an issue for all 35-100, or just some. If you click on my page, I have posted comparison videos between the 35-100 and several other lenses that clearly show the issue (at least on my copy). Thanks!!
I have started using the Pany 35-100mm on my G6 and it is great so far. That Olympus looks tasty as well; not much to choose between them. Mine has great sharpness and detail.
Hello, very nice video very informative and a good tutorial ! I own a PEN EP-5 so I guess I can use any of the 2 lenses ? I got it the Olympus is the best but I like to keep it light, so I can use the Panasonic ? Thank you !
This is the best video you guys have ever done. The chemistry between you too is uncanny. Every video should feature you two having shootouts like this.
That Olympus 40-150 mm f2.8 lens on an OM-D E-M1 makes me tingly. Plus, put the MC-14 teleconverter on it, and you can get a 420mm full frame equivalent at f4. That's a whole lot of lens. Now I just need the budget to buy it all.
The Panasonic if you look carefully at 4:40 is a tad sharper than the Olympus. If you go like me backpacking through nature, you get sharper images without much weight, the choice is really simple for me which one to get.
I enjoy the videos...some people aren't meant to be on camera but you are. Anyway...I was looking into the 150 for the focal length, but then came across the 35-100. I ended up getting it versus the 150 because of its size. The main reason I got the micro 4/3 camera was because its size...not being able to take pro-gear into casual pro sporting events. SOOOOO that 35-100 is smaller than my hand and I've used it on 3 outings now...photos are pretty damn nice. Maybe some day I'll look the longer telephoto, but am pleased with my choice. thanks for the review.
Thanks for the review. It would be helpful to know the focal lengths of each image you show because lens tend to have strong/weak focal length areas. Also, like so many youtube videos, the loud music is annoying/assaulting.
Enjoyed yr comparison, it was a bit of but also informative. I'm considering the Olympus 45-150, for my panny GH5. What's yr opinion, would the size of the GH5 help balance out the weight of the Oly lens? Also that Oly lens comes with a 1.4 Tele converter. It have been nice to see that used too, also would that converter fit the gh5? (I'm dreaming). Or does Panasonic have a Tele converter for the 35/100? Cheers 🤠🎥👍
Loved your video and the competition. Very interesting. I have a Panasonic and wanted the small light form factor so I went with the Panasonic. Both fab lenses though.
I'm choosing between the two for autofocus tracking on GH5 in video mode. I like the focus clutch in the Oly but a bit worried that it might not be as good as the Panny as it doesn't have DFD. What do you think?
The Olympus 40-150mm F2.8 is a beauty! The construction, the range, the impressive retractable lens hood... Am I correct to assume that it wouldn't bid lens image stabilisation on a Panasonic Gx8 or GX85 body? That's the impression I got from watching the video.
I'm not saying that a comparison is not needed, but the arguments for the 40-150 and the 35-100 are pretty much the same, Pany with IS. Oly with more range, better focusing ring, better lens hood etc.
How stabilization G85 with Panasonic LUMIX G X VARIO Professional Lens, 35-100mm, F2.8 II ASP POWER O.I.S. compatible with LUMIX Dual I.S. 2.0 - to Compare - G85 with M.ZUIKO DIGITAL ED 40-150mm F2.8 PRO? Will stabilization G85 will work on M.ZUIKO Lens or not? Thank you so much.
It seems like you're deliberarately trying to make the Olympus that much larger than the Pany just to emphasize that's it's larger. You can simply remove the hood to give an accurate size comparison. In fact all the test should have been done with the hood off because Jordan forgot the hood on the Pany. The Pany got an unfair advantage in size because the Olympus had the hood on and the Olympus had an unfair advantage in quality because of the hood..
Ofcourse its larger. It has 100 mm more reach. But the hood makes it look enormous. If you put a hood on the Pany it would look enormous too. Why not compare the too on equal footing. It's like if one girl had 3 inch heels on and you compare how much taller she is than another girl who's barefoot. I wonder if you put the hood on the Pany and then close the hood down on the Olympus if the wouldn't look very similar in size.
cybervand Dude, I'm not trying to make the argument that the Oly will somehow be smaller. I'm just saying that to see the real size difference you should either take the hood off both of them or put the hood on both of them. Why is this concept so hard for you to grasp? I'd like to know the real size difference when you compare them on equal grounds.
I was all for the Panny, but the Macro on the Oly is fantastic! Man, this no IS on the GH4 is bugging me, i wonder if the GH5 will have some sort of 5-axis IBS
"I've got equally beautiful balls." (7:33) Hahahahahaha! Guys, in all seriousness, this was an EXCELLENT and entertaining video. I learned a lot. Thanks!
Thanks for that shootout. I was wandering whether to buy the Lumix or the Zuiko. After a few seconds of it I was decided, the Zuiko ist huge, the panasonic is way smaller. The same goes for the weight. My decision for MFT is mainly based on size and weight of the systems components, and regarding that I can only choose the Lumix lens.
Thanks. I was very helpful to see the size in action. The Oly isn't as big as it looks in the usual close-up demo. It all comes down to what do you need. This video is a rigged game. It's testing is mainly done with a walk in the woods shooting little birdies. If you were on the street where a mid-zoom range is your primary need, where you need to travel light and keep uptight, and where the more weapon-like your gear looks the more you change your interaction, perhaps the results would have been different.
Does anyone know if Pany is planning on releasing an equivalent lens for the Olympus 40-150 f/2.8? Been sitting on the fence getting m43 as a second system, but still unsure which to choose between Olympus and Panasonic. Love Panasonic's video capabilities, but love Olympus' IBIS and 40-150 too.
wshyang Panasonic has no plans based non-existing rumors etc about such zoom. But if you are on to video, you should anyways use tripod unless you get Olympus E-M5 II that just is amazing for video (better suited for video because framerates, IBIS is similar with the E-M1, both being 5 stops). So get Panasonic and that Olympus and just use tripod, you would anyways have problems with longer focal lengths with OIS than with Olympus IBIS.
Love this! Didnt know so much knowledge shared on camera lens. Just starting my interest in photography. So helpful having testimonials, filmed examples by experts.
Update: Some of the latest Panasonic camera bodies have stabilization (which is an equalizer for the Olympus lens) and DFD autofocus (which is an advantage for the Panasonic lens).
Re stabilisation....the Pany GX7 and now GX8 (improved) have in body stabilisation therefore the Oly 40-150 pro lens will do job on them surely? Other Pany cameras it might be a different story. The retractable lens hood on the Oly lens is sweet.
I'd like to see how the new 40-150mm F2.8 stacks up against the older Olympus four thirds 50-200mm F2.8-3.5 SWD on the EM-1 using the adapter. I like the internal zoom of the 40-150 but the size doesn't appear to be much smaller than my 50-200. I assume focusing would be much faster but I like having an extra 50mm of reach and sharpness has never been an issue.
Brian Gibson The 50-200mm f/2.8-3.5 SWD needs the 4/3-m4/3 adapter that makes it nasty thing to handle. But same time if you want same, you need that 1.4x teleconverter to 40-150mm f/2.8 PRO and it becomes 56-210mm f/4. So just negligent addition to magnification and 1/3 stops dimmer. With PRO you get way faster focusing but you are having as well that "nasty" adapter. But where you really get benefits, is when your subject isn't moving toward you and you don't need that C-AF but you can use S-AF. Then PRO wins SWD totally in focus speed. So think about it. 50-200mm f/2.8-3.5 40-150mm f/2.8 or 56-210mm f/4
I own the Olympus 40-150mm f2.8, and it's really not that heavy. The biggest issue I have with it is fitting it into my bag. It's so good...you will have to pry it out of my cold, dead hand. What's even better is that I also have the MC-14 1.4x teleconverter, so I can extend it even further if I'm willing to drop to f4.
Perhaps an equally interesting comparison would be the new 40-150 vs the Oly 4/3 50-200. For travel/compactness, the Panny wins, no question. If I'm shooting wildlife or motorsports, I'm already making a decision to carry heavier weather-sealed gear with lots of reach, so paying several hundred dollars less for 50mm extra reach at a cost of 235g extra weight might be a very difficult tradeoff?
I can't see any real qualitative difference between the two optics. So based on convenience alone, I'd have to choose the Pani, especially for shooting video.
Nice video with praise for both lenses, but I own a Panasonic G7 and have the 35-100 lens (which is a beautiful combo) and I agree with everything Jordan says. While Chris appears over-eager to "win" since both lenses are great the thing this video does not address is when do you really need that extra reach the Oly lens has? Just in the cheap seats at a sporting event, or when?
With the MC-14, you can get an equivalent of 420mm in a really small package, That's why I am considering it. I have the G7 too, and I need a lens for wildlife, and 200mm isn't enough.
You are the best, but why did you not use the same camera body it would be much easier to compare. For me the Olympus looks much better but i think its an illusion ;)
That bird landing on Jordan's finger was epic. 2:39
I think that proved beyond doubt who was the nicer host.
someone must hand feed birds in that area
You should do this with the 12-35 2.8 und the 12-40 2.8
Yesss!!!!
Great job guys.. I actually just picked up the Olympus 40-150mm f4-5.6 for $50 on Craigslist from someone who never used it. I am shocked with the shapness, its better than it is suppose to be..not 2.8 but for $50?
It's amazing to see the "tiny" Pany combo did a great job. It's absolutely amazing compact for the focal length it covers at F2.8 with image stabilization. For me the Pany won in this shootout.
Chris, you and Jordan consistently make the most watchable, interesting, and entertaining photography videos on UA-cam. This one in particular was hilarious. Really enjoy the banter and the chemistry you two have together. Keep em coming with more of Jordan in front of the camera with you!
I think you're both great hosts. I wouldn't mind seeing you both again in another video.
2nd that
Almost 10 years of our magic photo review duo 😊
Both brilliant lenses. I chose the Panasonic 35-100mm because of size plus dual IS on the G9. The only downside for me is the close focus distance.
you didny mention that the Oly is a varifocal lens (compared to the Panny, where it loses focus as you zoom in or out). I'm switching the Oly (from my Panny) for this reason. I'll use to film dance recitals. On a tripod so no need to OIS.
Great comparison guys. I think I'd go for the more compact Panasonic 35-100.
Just stumbled onto this comparison, awesome video guys. I too was deciding between the two. Ultimately I ended up choosing the panny 35-100 due to more portable size. Paired with the oly 12-40, most versatile combo for travelling 😃
Hi, do you still use this combo now? Can you give me some reviews?
Hi, in 2024 i use my lumix lenses with my olympus em1x. I have the 12-35 f2.8 and 35-100 f2.8. Its a great compact lens set up if you do portraits or dont want to tote around a big boy lens like a ff 100-400. @nguyentrieuphuc4007
Can you get good stabilized videos and images using the Olympus 40-150mm on a Panasonic GH5?
Great chemistry, even the scripted bits. Awesome job. As a video guy, I'd love to see more of Jordan, even if his hair isn't nearly as majestic. Sorry Jordan.
So really late to the party. I just picked up the Panasonic 35-100 f2.8 mkii for my Olympus e-m1mkiii. It's a great size and weight. Very sharp with fast focus. Plus cheaper than the Olympus.
"Pictures are weird" -Jordan
Fantastic comparison!
With the optional M.Zuiko Digital MC-14 1.4x Teleconverter the lens can further extend the reach to a 112-420mm.
Olympus 40-150mm F2.8 vs. Panasonic 35-100mm F2.8 Shootout
Lumix Camera's Rock. Is started with a Lumix
then went to Nikon, I still think Lumix is better.
Great video, thanks ! Considering the price of the Olympus I was more hesitating between the Olympus M.Zuiko Digital ED 40-150mm f/4-5.6 and the Panasonic 35-100mm F2.8 which one would you recommend ?
Great comparison guys, thanks! One other thing I would be curious to see compared is the effectiveness of the oly IBIS vs the panny OIS at longer focal lengths. I'm thinking the Lanny may have the advantage there. That said, the availability of a teleconverter for the Olympus is very appealing, provided the IBIS can keep up.
*Panny
Nice and funny video. But what happened with the lighting? Looks like a unsteady reflector???
It turns out Camera Reps aren't the best assistants.
Jordan @ TCSTV
Do a video one and do birds usually go on peoples hands like that? id like to know what park that is?
As someone from a stills background moving onto video, TCS has become so much more relevant with Jordan around more! Favorite UA-cam channel by far.
i feel like Jordan id gonna snap one day and just beat the shit out of chris haha
+paztheripper Stay tuned!
Jordan @ TCSTV
hahahahaha
You guys are the best! This is the best video I've seen from you guys. Very funny!! I have the Panny 35-100mm and nothing can beat it! It's tiny and the contrast and colour rendition is off the charts!! If i wanted a lens as big as the 40-150mm i would just go full frame...
So big question is does the lens hood for the Olympus actually work? I hate carrying lens hoods and have been seen using my hand to block flare. If the lens hood has some purpose instead of just taking up space, I might actually use it instead of my hand.
Someone doesn't know how to hold a reflector still.
came here to say this.
I want to invest in the 40-150 for shooting video of professional sports VIDEO on GH5S, but I'm concerned about video stability. Thoughts?
I can't believe that Chris said that stablisation only matters for video. I want a fast telephoto so I can take photos in darker indoor locations such as school halls. Even at f2.8, I often want to slow the shutter speed down, so stabilisation is very important.
simianinc I can't believe that either, as I didn't hear him say so. So I trust you that he said so. But the IBIS is extremely helpful on still photography, especially the Olympus 5 axis (that is superior to Sony) that makes beginners camera handling like they would have handled the camera for years. Beginners gets so much forgiven by their lacking skills handling the cameras because Olympus IBIS. And when you have skills to handle the camera correctly, the IBIS allows you to do amazing things. Like my record now is having at 150mm focal length totally sharp images with 6 second shutter speed... And that is without using any support by standing and success rate for that was about 40% (toke 5 shots and two were totally sharp).
So when taking still photographs it is extremely helpful. Last time really needed that IBIS was being in museum that electricity was cut off so all lights were off. Flash not allowed so only way to get photos was handheld. ISO 800, shutter speed 1/1.3, 30-40mm and f/4, it was 100% success rate without any kind problems. Just pure joy to use camera and all shots were even taken from hip, using just the rear display. That is 7-8 stop effectiveness for IBIS, just pure bliss.
I have only tested E-M5 II in store test room and while E-M1 IBIS is to same level, the E-M5 II IBIS wins in three things: 1) In video, as the IBIS keeps the video more still instead follow the small movements. 2) Macro photography, the very small and light shakes can be visible in macro but new IBIS gyro sensors sense that better. To make E-M1 IBIS as effective in macro, you need to shake the camera to get its gyros detect movement and keep it still :D. 3) Long exposures, the E-M5 II algorithm knows when the camera should be still and holds it still better.
I will definitely upgrade to E-M1 successor once it hits stores as that IBIS for macro photography is just amazing.
For long telephotos or long exposures there isn't such a problem. As often I have forgotten ND filters for long exposures for flowing water in daylight. So I need to use ISO Low and f/22 to get shutter speed to one second at longest and still get perfectly sharp photos (what the small diffraction problem allows). If I have the ND8 filter with me I get the required 2-4 second shutter speeds and yet handheld camera.
And if wanted to get even better results for handheld indoor long exposures (like 1/2 second etc), set the IBIS disabled by half-pressing shutter, so it will get enabled only when releasing the shutter. As it does wonders when the sensor is centered when exposing it instead already moving when releasing shutter.
Oh and almost forgot, Chris should know that what kind pleasure it is to use long telephoto objectives handheld when the viewfinder is stabilized and you are following a flying bird or jumping cars/bicycles etc.
+paristo At around 11:08...
Now that the Panasonic model will get updated, I wonder if the optic has changed.
I don't have the 40-150 here, but the 35-100 is a tough lens to beat, and if you don't mind picking up an extra lens such as a adapted 135mm or a R 40-150 from oly you will do ok if you have the pana for many things.
Come on boys just kiss,the tension is even getting to me.
Nice job again.
I want both. You guys should definitely do more shootouts between Chris and Jordan! Also, 11:50. FLUFFY DOG!
Question for you. Where would you tell me to go (research, school, online courses, college courses) if I am am an absolute beginner wanting to change careers to photography? First things first, I know absolutely nothing about cameras and how they work. The lingo is foreign to me. Knowing this, where shall I begin? Thanks for your input Kelly :)
Now that the GX85 has 5 axis in body stabilization, would The Camera Store guys now say Olympus Lenses are now preferable for video as they have hard manual stops? Or do you guys still prefer the dual stabilization option that Panasonic only lenses have. My thoughts is that perhaps the hard manual stops is more worth it.
The extra reach of the Oly looks handy for wildlife, and that macro ability is lush. Though the sheer size is a little intimidating, especially as a backup zoom to be hauled around with an even bigger telephoto. And no stabilisation! Go for Panny, suck up the zoom cutoff, and pack an extension tube...?
Six years later, the 40-150 still looks fantastic !
8-9 years later, the 35-100 still looks fantastic !
@@MarchalisVan I did not like it for the image it produced. Kept it for 3 mos. tried my best to get and image, landscape, that I felt it should produce. Now, cityscape might be completely different?!
@@MrFirstdance2000 Might be manufacturing variation? mine is among the sharpest lenses I have, which includes the olympus 25 F1.2 and the Sigma 56mm F1.4. not as sharp as the Sigma.. that's my sharpest lens :S Sample variation is real.
Great choices. I've used the Panasonic 35-100 f 2.8 on an Olympus E-M1 and it is a great combo. The E-M1 handles beautifully. I look forward to using that 40-150mm.
Yes bit what's about the price ? You compared two lens but the prices are not the same.
is there a video that covers the Olympus M.Zuiko Digital ED 300mm f/4 IS PRO Lens from these guys?
Hi, I know this an older video but wanted to know if you can help me out with a question concerning the Panasonic 100-300mm lens. which lens is a sharper lens the Panasonic Lumix G Vario 100-300mm f/4-5.6 II POWER O.I.S. Lens which is the newest version or the older one? I'm planning to buy either version 1 or 2 but want to know if it's worth the almost $200 dollar difference when it comes to sharpness and speed to get focus. Thanks.
Love the banter! I'm with Jordan though - even though the Olly 40-150mm is smaller than an equivalent DSLR lens it still looks like a beast. Love the compact nature of the Panny G/GX series with the 35-100.
I agree with how Jordan rapped it up at the end, the Pani 35/100 is more in line with what micro 4/3 systems are all about, small size, once you get into lenses the size of the 40/150, you start to question the portability factor, but the Olympus is a really nice lens, and it is still small compared to a full frame equivalent, but if I was to buy a micro 4/3 camera, for me it would be to get away from the size and weight of my full frame camera, so I would want to keep my lenses small, but like Jordan said, if 4/3 is your only system, then I could see getting the 40/150 lens, now that I think about it, I think Jordan made more good points than Chris in this video haha, but I find it funny that Jordan doesn't know how to use a camera for still photography, but no funnier than me not knowing to much on the video side, as far as a review goes, I think the two guy thing works well, you two are like the Siskel and Ebert of cameras
The Siskel and Ebert feel is exactly what we're going for, thanks for catching that! For the record, I do know how to work a still camera, Chris was just breaking balls because I shoot a lot more video than stills.
Jordan @ TCSTV
Then don't get a longer focal length. Your argument doesn't hold the water as m4/3 system is always smaller than small format camera with same focal length. And the difference only grows when longer focal lengths comes in play with equivalent angle of view and light density.
The smaller 35-100mm is 50mm shorter than 40-150mm and that brings the size difference, that is negligent between those two but looks different because other had hood and tripod collar.
photographerjonathan Once you factor in the compromise in DoF a smaller sensor incurs, you come to see the greater size and weight of the Olympus with a greater range as a compromise worth the while. Not to mention its delightful physical constriction.
Great review guys! Question, maybe mostly to Jordan, who was using the 35-100. Several people have complained about micro jitter when shooting handheld with OIS on the 35-100. Is this something you have seen? I am trying to determine if it is an issue for all 35-100, or just some. If you click on my page, I have posted comparison videos between the 35-100 and several other lenses that clearly show the issue (at least on my copy). Thanks!!
I have started using the Pany 35-100mm on my G6 and it is great so far. That Olympus looks tasty as well; not much to choose between them. Mine has great sharpness and detail.
No gray hair, more hair, and a tad less weight! You guys still look marvelous in 2024!
Keep the reviews and shootouts coming;
sounds like the first and last Chris/Jordan shootout ;)
No, we had a lot of fun! You can look forward to more Jordan/Chris episodes soon.
Jordan @ TCSTV
TheCameraStoreTV Was not doubting that one time!
Hello, very nice video very informative and a good tutorial ! I own a PEN EP-5 so I guess I can use any of the 2 lenses ? I got it the Olympus is the best but I like to keep it light, so I can use the Panasonic ? Thank you !
How about a video comparison of these two lenses too?
This video is fun to watch and with some serious conclusions to be drawn.
Great stuff, guys!
This is the best video you guys have ever done. The chemistry between you too is uncanny. Every video should feature you two having shootouts like this.
That Olympus 40-150 mm f2.8 lens on an OM-D E-M1 makes me tingly. Plus, put the MC-14 teleconverter on it, and you can get a 420mm full frame equivalent at f4. That's a whole lot of lens. Now I just need the budget to buy it all.
Update: I did buy it all, including the teleconverter, and now you will have to pry it out of my cold, dead hand if you ever want me to give it up.
@@danieldougan8613 Now how to eat with both hands occupied ;-)
The Panasonic if you look carefully at 4:40 is a tad sharper than the Olympus. If you go like me backpacking through nature, you get sharper images without much weight, the choice is really simple for me which one to get.
DeFietsreiziger if you really look and are honest its not sharper than the olympus ...
is Chris big lens compensating for his short ....
Try carrying around 7D mark II with Tamron 150-600 mm I did for a while until I developed tendinitis
How does the size compare if you take the tripod collar and lens hood off?
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Still bigger, but less so. The Oly lens is longer, heavier and has more girth.
I enjoy the videos...some people aren't meant to be on camera but you are. Anyway...I was looking into the 150 for the focal length, but then came across the 35-100. I ended up getting it versus the 150 because of its size. The main reason I got the micro 4/3 camera was because its size...not being able to take pro-gear into casual pro sporting events. SOOOOO that 35-100 is smaller than my hand and I've used it on 3 outings now...photos are pretty damn nice. Maybe some day I'll look the longer telephoto, but am pleased with my choice. thanks for the review.
Will you guys be taking a look at the Fuji 50-140 2.8 when it releases?
Bro I am using lumix g9. Lumix 35 100mm or zuiko40 150mm. Which one better for me
Thanks for the review. It would be helpful to know the focal lengths of each image you show because lens tend to have strong/weak focal length areas. Also, like so many youtube videos, the loud music is annoying/assaulting.
Enjoyed yr comparison, it was a bit of but also informative. I'm considering the Olympus 45-150, for my panny GH5. What's yr opinion, would the size of the GH5 help balance out the weight of the Oly lens? Also that Oly lens comes with a 1.4 Tele converter. It have been nice to see that used too, also would that converter fit the gh5? (I'm dreaming). Or does Panasonic have a Tele converter for the 35/100? Cheers 🤠🎥👍
Why isn’t jordan using the lens hood, makes it look small
7:31 - 7:37 interesting for people passing from behind and overhearing the conversation
"I'm a paragon of strength and manliness." That's confidence! :)
The Serial Hobbyist Girl easy to fake...haha😂
Could anyone confirm whether the issue of micro jitters has been fixed with this lens?
Should've had a lens hood on that Panasonic zoom. Without it, you can introduce a lot of flare in your shots.
cool chemistry!
How does the 35-100 compare to the canon 70-200 in full frame?
Loved your video and the competition. Very interesting. I have a Panasonic and wanted the small light form factor so I went with the Panasonic. Both fab lenses though.
you didn't comment on the cost factor.
I'm choosing between the two for autofocus tracking on GH5 in video mode. I like the focus clutch in the Oly but a bit worried that it might not be as good as the Panny as it doesn't have DFD. What do you think?
The Olympus 40-150mm F2.8 is a beauty! The construction, the range, the impressive retractable lens hood...
Am I correct to assume that it wouldn't bid lens image stabilisation on a Panasonic Gx8 or GX85 body? That's the impression I got from watching the video.
TheCameraStoreTV Is the Olympus 12-40 v Panasonic 12-35 coming up next?
I'm not saying that a comparison is not needed, but the arguments for the 40-150 and the 35-100 are pretty much the same, Pany with IS. Oly with more range, better focusing ring, better lens hood etc.
How stabilization
G85 with Panasonic LUMIX G X VARIO Professional Lens, 35-100mm, F2.8 II ASP POWER O.I.S. compatible with LUMIX Dual I.S. 2.0
- to Compare -
G85 with M.ZUIKO DIGITAL ED 40-150mm F2.8 PRO?
Will stabilization G85 will work on M.ZUIKO Lens or not?
Thank you so much.
It seems like you're deliberarately trying to make the Olympus that much larger than the Pany just to emphasize that's it's larger. You can simply remove the hood to give an accurate size comparison. In fact all the test should have been done with the hood off because Jordan forgot the hood on the Pany. The Pany got an unfair advantage in size because the Olympus had the hood on and the Olympus had an unfair advantage in quality because of the hood..
Unfair advantage? its larger without the hood and there is no question about that.
Ofcourse its larger. It has 100 mm more reach. But the hood makes it look enormous. If you put a hood on the Pany it would look enormous too. Why not compare the too on equal footing. It's like if one girl had 3 inch heels on and you compare how much taller she is than another girl who's barefoot. I wonder if you put the hood on the Pany and then close the hood down on the Olympus if the wouldn't look very similar in size.
Charles Le what are you saying? even with the hood on the Panasonic, the Olympus will still be larger.
cybervand Dude, I'm not trying to make the argument that the Oly will somehow be smaller. I'm just saying that to see the real size difference you should either take the hood off both of them or put the hood on both of them. Why is this concept so hard for you to grasp? I'd like to know the real size difference when you compare them on equal grounds.
Charles Le www.m43blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/olympus_40-150_panasonic_35-100.jpg there you go, it still doesn't matter.
I must ask you, the M1 in comparison to the M5 mk2, which do you prefer? and why?
I was all for the Panny, but the Macro on the Oly is fantastic! Man, this no IS on the GH4 is bugging me, i wonder if the GH5 will have some sort of 5-axis IBS
What is the focus throw (closest focus to infinity) in manual-clutch for the Olympus 40-150 in video mode?
Great comparison guys. It's nice to have a choice, and it's equally nice to know that either way we choose, we can expect a high performance lens.
Hi TCS,
I'm new to this, could the close focusing difference be the result of parfocal design of the panasonic lens? Is olympus lens parfocal?
Thanks!
"I've got equally beautiful balls." (7:33) Hahahahahaha! Guys, in all seriousness, this was an EXCELLENT and entertaining video. I learned a lot. Thanks!
Thanks for that shootout. I was wandering whether to buy the Lumix or the Zuiko. After a few seconds of it I was decided, the Zuiko ist huge, the panasonic is way smaller. The same goes for the weight. My decision for MFT is mainly based on size and weight of the systems components, and regarding that I can only choose the Lumix lens.
Great comparison and video. I know this is from along time ago but Jordan should compare both lenses for video.
Thank you.
Thanks. I was very helpful to see the size in action. The Oly isn't as big as it looks in the usual close-up demo. It all comes down to what do you need. This video is a rigged game. It's testing is mainly done with a walk in the woods shooting little birdies. If you were on the street where a mid-zoom range is your primary need, where you need to travel light and keep uptight, and where the more weapon-like your gear looks the more you change your interaction, perhaps the results would have been different.
Does anyone know if Pany is planning on releasing an equivalent lens for the Olympus 40-150 f/2.8? Been sitting on the fence getting m43 as a second system, but still unsure which to choose between Olympus and Panasonic.
Love Panasonic's video capabilities, but love Olympus' IBIS and 40-150 too.
wshyang Panasonic has no plans based non-existing rumors etc about such zoom. But if you are on to video, you should anyways use tripod unless you get Olympus E-M5 II that just is amazing for video (better suited for video because framerates, IBIS is similar with the E-M1, both being 5 stops). So get Panasonic and that Olympus and just use tripod, you would anyways have problems with longer focal lengths with OIS than with Olympus IBIS.
Love this! Didnt know so much knowledge shared on camera lens. Just starting my interest in photography. So helpful having testimonials, filmed examples by experts.
this old version of Panasonic 35-100mm is not weather seal, the second version which came out this year is.
What dog was that? The white one at 11:50?
Update: Some of the latest Panasonic camera bodies have stabilization (which is an equalizer for the Olympus lens) and DFD autofocus (which is an advantage for the Panasonic lens).
What is the 40-150mm made in??? Please let me know. Thank you.
Is the Olympus compatible with GH4 or GH5 directly?
that was way funny guys!
So if i understood well, you could use either lenses in any micro 4/3 bodies and work very well right?
"Norman Rockwell moment" - The bantering is strong in this video, and jolly entertaining it is. :-)
Re stabilisation....the Pany GX7 and now GX8 (improved) have in body stabilisation therefore the Oly 40-150 pro lens will do job on them surely? Other Pany cameras it might be a different story. The retractable lens hood on the Oly lens is sweet.
Ok...how did you get that bird to just land on your finger for that picture!
I'd like to see how the new 40-150mm F2.8 stacks up against the older Olympus four thirds 50-200mm F2.8-3.5 SWD on the EM-1 using the adapter. I like the internal zoom of the 40-150 but the size doesn't appear to be much smaller than my 50-200. I assume focusing would be much faster but I like having an extra 50mm of reach and sharpness has never been an issue.
Brian Gibson The 50-200mm f/2.8-3.5 SWD needs the 4/3-m4/3 adapter that makes it nasty thing to handle. But same time if you want same, you need that 1.4x teleconverter to 40-150mm f/2.8 PRO and it becomes 56-210mm f/4. So just negligent addition to magnification and 1/3 stops dimmer. With PRO you get way faster focusing but you are having as well that "nasty" adapter.
But where you really get benefits, is when your subject isn't moving toward you and you don't need that C-AF but you can use S-AF. Then PRO wins SWD totally in focus speed.
So think about it.
50-200mm f/2.8-3.5
40-150mm f/2.8 or 56-210mm f/4
I own the Olympus 40-150mm f2.8, and it's really not that heavy. The biggest issue I have with it is fitting it into my bag. It's so good...you will have to pry it out of my cold, dead hand. What's even better is that I also have the MC-14 1.4x teleconverter, so I can extend it even further if I'm willing to drop to f4.
The dual host is very entertaining way to present comparisons. Good Job!
Perhaps an equally interesting comparison would be the new 40-150 vs the Oly 4/3 50-200.
For travel/compactness, the Panny wins, no question. If I'm shooting wildlife or motorsports, I'm already making a decision to carry heavier weather-sealed gear with lots of reach, so paying several hundred dollars less for 50mm extra reach at a cost of 235g extra weight might be a very difficult tradeoff?
I can't see any real qualitative difference between the two optics. So based on convenience alone, I'd have to choose the Pani, especially for shooting video.
Does olympus e30 has a shooting video?
Nice video with praise for both lenses, but I own a Panasonic G7 and have the 35-100 lens (which is a beautiful combo) and I agree with everything Jordan says. While Chris appears over-eager to "win" since both lenses are great the thing this video does not address is when do you really need that extra reach the Oly lens has? Just in the cheap seats at a sporting event, or when?
With the MC-14, you can get an equivalent of 420mm in a really small package, That's why I am considering it. I have the G7 too, and I need a lens for wildlife, and 200mm isn't enough.
You are the best, but why did you not use the same camera body it would be much easier to compare. For me the Olympus looks much better but i think its an illusion ;)