Christians Who Believe This Are AGAINST the Ancient Church
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- In this video, Calvin Smith explores the ancient church's perspective on the age of the Earth, offering insights that may challenge your beliefs. Join the conversation and expand your understanding of this fascinating topic.
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Thanks for stating this clearly. It really annoys me how many apologists on UA-cam automatically dismiss the young earth view, and act like anyone who rejects old earth is an idiot. In many cases, I've studied evolution, genetics, biology, population dynamics, etc. more than them, and I still believe in the young earth, because of the problems with the deep time explanation for everything.
You can study all you like but you will always be an idiot.
The more you look into evolution, genetics, and viral/germ theory, the more you discover that it's all lies. The bigger the marketing budget the more it's called “settled science”. Hollywood films and cartoons are used to convince the public of wild theories that are never scientifically proven.
It’s the same with climate science. I don’t believe in the man made climate change. But my college textbooks literally said that I was an idiot.
Precisely!! Well said!! 👍😍
@@beastlycrawdad6412 it's real, whether you believe it or not.
About blending evolution and what God created. 2 Christians and myself (a Christian) were discussing this. No matter how I tried to explain that they were in error to believe in a cooperative of evolution/creationism, I could not with my own understanding. I prayed, "God there must be something in Your word to help me here", I turned to Geneses and low, it was written there the whole time.
After God created each day, He said that He saw that what He created was Good, and at the end of it all He Saw that it was very good. I than thanked God and stated, if something created, by man or God is Good, or even very good why would it need changed or an evolution to occur. In unison they said "well that's good enough for me" ; meaning they no longer believe in a cooperative evolution/creation theory.
Glory to God, Jesus Saves.
How did he know what day it was if the clown did not create the sun and moon until day 4?
@@kevinkelly2162
If you ask respectfully, I will answer you.
Evolutionists thought Petrified wood was millions of year old, untill Mt Saint Hellen blew trees into nearby lakes and 30 years later they are starting to petrify..
Skeleton Lake in the Himalaya is where people died climbing above the flood - 16,470 ft = Noah's Ark !
@@kevinkelly2162Because Jesus Christ is the Creator. He knows what He created and on which day He created it, clown.
@@rtoguidver3651 Wow thanks for sharing I didn't hear about this.
Glory to God , Jesus Saves.
5:48 'Most people simply assume they are correct, and don't bother doing their homework.'.
You nailed it.
Jesus Christ is the only truth in the world.
No, he is not. If you believe that, I’ll pray for you.
amen. Christ our light
@@maxrobespierre9176who will you pray to?
The Son's Name isn't Jesus . . . so how can that be "the only truth?" A simple Google search will confirm that there is neither a letter "J" nor sound in Hebrew.
It makes no sense for a Jewish Savior to use an English name to save Jewish people and the world from sin.
His Name is YAHshua, which means: YAH is Salvation. He said that He came in His Father's Name that most churches ERRONEOUSLY refer to as LORD, which means Baal in English.
Everyone knows the Father's True Name and I'll prove it: HalleluJAH is actually pronounced as HalleluYAH and means: Praise You YAH . . . the short form of the Father's Name.
Visit KnowHIS Name (S.N) for the Truth that has been deceptively removed from most bibles.
@@Michael0841 There is no such Hebrew name as Yahshua. If you want to be a scold get your facts right.
6 days He labored and on the 7th He rested! Multiple places the Bible says this covering thousands of years that God repeated the same thing that it took him six days to create everything and he rested on the seventh. Think I'm going to trust God on this one!!!
That last passage from 1 Timothy says it all. He hit the nail right on the head.
Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the TRADITION of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
{Colossians 2:8}
@larry Excellent warning! You seem like one of the few seeking the Truth. Visit KnowHIS Name (S.N) for more jaw-dropping information about the Truth.
God bless your ministry, brethren. John 17:17
Our salvation is not free. Only the Hebrew were in the right place and could afford it. And sadly many Hebrews paid for it in their blood. You can never truly separate G-d from his Chosen Ones. We should all be thanking them for Christ. No, they do not accept Jesus as the Messiah - and for good reason. But they might appreciate your gift of kindness.
John Wheeler once said time is nature’s way of ensuring that everything does not happen at once. And this is so strangely accurate. There is a ‘Present’ that is everywhere at once. Right now it is the Present. But if I wait a few seconds it is still the Present. And if I wait a Thousand Years, it’s still the Present. What divides the Past & Present yet retains so interconnected?
Once upon a time I’ll pass on to the next
For as soon as I am here I’ve left.
However this is merely how you perceive.
For I never really change and yet still continue to weave.
I am reminded of that old poem from long ago:
“Has it ever struck you that life is all memory, except for the one present moment that goes by you so quick you hardly catch it going?”
Tennessee Williams
As Jordan Baker noted, Augustine thinks that a particular concept of time-“deictic” time-metaphysically (not just epistemically) depends on minds. That term, deictic comes from linguistics and is used to describe words that mean the same thing but refer to different things depending on their context. For example, here, now, and I are all deictic words. They each have the same meaning no matter who speaks them, but they pick out different things depending on who speaks.
Deictic time is the supposedly objective now that we all experience from within our own independent contexts, and Augustine connects this idea to a certain notion of change. For Augustine, deictic time is “flowing time.” Whereas eternity “abides,” temporal deictic time passes through past, present, and future; it passes out of being. Augustine claims, then, that there is one objectively existing time, the present, and that the other “times” are just shorthand for operations the mind performs on that fleeting present.
As he states...
It is manifest and clear that there are neither times future nor times past . . . perhaps it might be said rightly that there are three times: a present of things past; a present of things present; and a time present of things future. For these three do coexist somehow in the soul, for otherwise I could not see them.
When god says 6 days. He means 6 days as we understand it to mean.
What about translation errors?
really???? tell me how do you identify a day??? Then tell me how you have 24 hour days on days 1-3 when GOD didn't create the sun until day 4?????
@@wesjohnson3035 a day as it exists on earth. A day as what humans understand a day to mean. Otherwise God would of used other language when speaking to moses to make that clear. This is common sense.
@@Homoprimatesapiens don't be silly
@@pauljackson1359come on and preach my brother!! 🙏👋😍😂😂😂
Great video, thank you! For the vast majority of church history the Young Earth view was by far the consensus reading of Scripture. The gas-lighting in modern evangelicalism to cater to an old Earth view in the last 100 years is indeed self-evident. This is another case of the professing church fearing man over God.
The earth IS old, however.
Sometimes you need to admit the small stuff to protect the big stuff. YEC is just no longer valid to anyone who honestly and sincerely researches.
@endersdragon34 Did you not understand?
It seems like you are suffering of cognitive dissonance😂😂😂
@@StudentDad-mc3puWow you are so smart😂😂😂😂
@@savedwretch8711 I actually really am.
Can you please post music free versions of your videos for those with hearing difficulties and in general those of us that can not stand distracting music when trying to hear and learn. 🙏✝️
I am seeing texts with this video, it should help if you have your UA-cam set up for it.
@@marisamartin3664 - How do you mute the background music but not the voices?
Funny but until I read your comment and went back to listen again, I didn't realize there was any background music. I pray you are unhindered going forward by what may be distracting.
@@ronlanter6906 music is edited in after voice and video recording they can leave it out others have done so on request. 👍
@@-o-The-Duke-o- thankyou for your sincere care for my wellbeing 🙏
In Genesis why does it say the morning and the evening if it wasn't one 24 hour day 🤔(rhetorical)
To be precise, there was evening and morning, the first day, second, third and so on. Evening is first. You are correct about the “24” hours though. Completely!
How can there be a morning without a sun to rise
@@justice4all130 exactly
@@justice4all130 Because God spoke light into existence on the first day. He is our LIGHT. Read St. John chapter 1: 1-14. God explains it more clearly for us that we may understand.
@@Youngonce01
If light alone made a sun he wouldn't had to create a sun on the 4th day would he?
and John isn't speaking of physical light but spiritual light As the context clearly implies
Jesus confirmed young earth so that is what I try to believe. I was brainwashed into long earth thoughts in my biology classes and of course media and culture. If Jesus wants me to believe in short earth then I try to obey and strive to believe that. He even said we must be like children. Thank you for helping rehabilitate my belief in a short earth😊😇
@christretch Please visit KnowHIS Name (S.N) for the Truth about His Name . . . He was never called Jesus while on earth.
So you think one guy that we don't even know if he really existed "said" something that goes against all evidence and reason we have, you go with that guy? Well, the Easter Bunny said you should give me all your money. You must be like a child and obey him. I'll take cash, check, or electronic transfer.
Jesus is real is the son of God did die on the cross has risen from the dead and is in heaven right now he's alive and returning soon believe and be saved from death and destruction .
@@motorcyclemark2889 I knew Him most of my life as Jesus . . . but He eventually revealed His True Name to me. Would like to share that experience with you: visit KnowHIS Name (S.N) for the Truth about our Saviour.
Im not doubting you, but would you be able to point me to the scripture in which Jesus affirms a young earth?
Sweet jacket! And even cooler vest🤤
Yeah, I haven't seen a vest like that since the 70's. They were "hip" back then.
Well done, Calvin! You have certainly been doing your homework.
*I am a born again Christian for the last 50 years* *For thousands of years people thought that the brain was a cooling system* *Those experts he quoted was their opinions beliefs which does not always equat to Truth they could have all been wrong just like billions of over human history were wrong about the earth beings the very center of God's Creation!* *That is my point!* *And just what the heck has this new earth belief got to do with the Gospel of Salvation through Jesus Christ our Lord* *"Absolutely nothing* *Who really really knows the correct answer to the true age of the universe and the world?* *Almighty God ask him like I did and I now know the true ages of the heavens and the Earth?*
*Alan McDougall*
When I read the title of this video, I was hoping you would tell us when people stopped believing the resurrection of the dead when Christ returns and started believing the Catholic idea of a separate soul going to heaven at death.
I hit the like button 10 times. 😅
@justincase1919 your a non factor 😂
@@user-vl2zh2ud7h
No, just a factor. 1/10
Interestingly, Justin and Irenaeus both argued against the soul going to heaven at death. Rather, the soul waits in Hades (sheol) until the resurrection.
@@davidjoly9816
Yes, but that's just made up to fit their false belief in an " immortal soul " into the true biblical teaching of the resurrection.
Falsehood mixed with truth is still falsehood.
"Sheol" is the grave. " Hades " is the greek concept of a place where the dead go, with a god of the dead.
The idea that "sheol" is a place where the dead go is just a hellenized version of the word.
"Hades" is also translated as " hell " sometimes, but it's really just a translation of "sheol" and is more accurately translated as "the grave".
"Sheol" is the grave and so is "hades" in the new testament, that's where the dead go. There is no such thing as an "immortal soul ", the Bible simply doesn't teach that, it's a greek concept.
Also, Connie didn't say that Justin or Ireneaus said we go to heaven when we die, she said the catholic church does ( not to mention pretty much all the churches/denominations that came from them ).
I don't know why people think that what people in history thought proves anything.
Those people were no smarter than you, stop looking at their OPINIONS and BELIEFS, and study the Bible for YOURSELF.
You can do it, you're obviously not stupid, you just need to get rid of your preconceived notions and look at what is actually said without reading things into it.
Thanks for expressing this important understanding about this Earth's age!❤👍❤💯
Who's more powerful? the God who does it in 6 days, or the one who needs billions of years? I'll rest my eternity on the former😂
On top of that, it's an argument for or against deism. The old earth and evolution view says God is impersonal, and created a universe that sat around for billions of years with death, decay, entropy, and chaos until God decided to set apart some primates. The biblical view says everything was very good before the fall of man, which makes much more sense in regard to God being a Redeemer.
hahaha
@@litigioussociety4249
He was actually taking His sweet time creating in six days.
@@truthbebold4009
Yup.
I think it was J. Vernon Magee who said, it's not a miracle God created the universe in only six days; the miracle is that He took six whole days to do it.
The answer to your question is… neither. God is not more or less powerful, however He chose to do creation.
Now the question is… Who’s more impressive? A God that creates everything in 6 days the way he wants it, or a God that plans out billions and billions of years so perfectly that He gets the exact outcome He wanted 13,800,000,000 later?
Looks like Calvin took one for the young Earth creationists! Way to go bud!
This explains so much of my experience with The Augustine’s, here in Australia.
Thank you so much.
God confirms it's a literal 24 hours because He commanded the Israelites to observe every literal seventh day because He labored six days and rested the seventh.
Exodus 20:11 KJV
For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
Jesus too believed in a literal 24 hour day creation.
Matthew 19:4 KJV
And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
Jesus says Adam and Eve were made at the beginning. If it were thousands of years after the beginning when they were created that would not be the beginning.
You should use more scripture. Who cares what men have to say. The "ancient church fathers" are not inspired. Stick with the word of God.
He does present the scriptures in his ministry, but the focus on the video was to show that the claims made by others concerning early church leaders are false.
To show their claims are false he has to go to the sources.
The sources are the writings of the early church leaders.
Thus, the video does an excellent job showing how others are using deception to make their points, and therefore cannot be trusted.
@@EyeToob yes but what you both fail to understand is just because one early church father says something doesn't really mean anything. It certainly doesn't prove Genesis one-way or another. I'm sure there are plenty men back then who also thought Genesis wasn't literal. The churches using these ancient "fathers" to prove one thing or another should be shamed for doing such. Stick to the Bible. There's a lot of things those early christians said and wrote that are against the teachings of the Bible. Because they are not inspired men like the apostles and prophets. I don't expect anyone to care about what I have to say. That's why I get scripture for almost everything I preach because the less I talk and the more scripture talks the better.
1 Corinthians 2:1-2 KJV
And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God. [2] For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.
@Obad87 Please visit KnowHIS Name (S.N) for the Truth about not only creation (I agree with you), but the correct title for the Father (along with His actual Name) and the Son's True Name. You'll be shocked beyond belief!
Even if you believe that the days were longer, say 1000 years, that still throws out the traditional evolutionary narrative. Also the fact of no death before the fall, which is a death nail (no pun intended).
But if you say the days were say a billion years then it would Almost make sense
Being that man is still a work in progress Making this currently the middle of the 6th day
@@justice4all130 "But if you say the days were say a billion years then it would Almost make sense "
It makes even less sense that way. You have plants on the third day, and a billion years later, the sun is created.
It's either a straightforward account of a miraculous event, or it's nonsense.
@@Packhorse-bh8qn
The point was that if we break things down into billions of years If something cluttered to the scientifically determined age Then we're only on the sixth day then God's not even done making man yet
The one aspect of these gentlemen and their writings, that would seem to be quite important, would be their relationship with our Lord, and their willingness to allow the Holy Spirit to lead their lives, and their thoughts that led to their writings. There is one Holy Spirit, and He does not contradict Himself. Ever. To understand all of their interpretations would be to know how well each individual allowed himself to be truly humbled, and then led by the Spirit.
Agreed. It amazes me how so many people believe they are smarter than God.
@@mikenixon2401
What amazes me is how many people in this column are dumber than a rock
Thank you for restating the Bible as it is written to uncover the truth as it was written. There are other things that have been proverted from the plain truth of the Bible that are no longer believed by so many that the truth has become obscured by the statements of man rather that the plain word of God. Thank you for your courage in uncovering the plain truth of the Bible.
This is needed, thanks for this excellent refutation, your respectful and accurately represent the claims. It’s clear that they have been backed into a corner and are hiding in the long shadow of history.they cannot let the fathers be the fathers.
Great video.
As an archaeologist, I have issues with a 6000 year old earth. I'm aware of the limitations of certain dating methods.
But I am an absolute creationist. 6 actual days. And no macro-evolutionary stance.
I'm interested in the concept of the contraction of time since creation from our perspective, from which the beginning is apparently further back than the Biblical chronologies would have, even though they are correct at the time period referenced.
Not sure if this is what WL Craig refers to as a tensed theory of time, but will explore.
Thank you for this great retrospective!
The Institute for creation research is a great resource and has fantastic information.
I truly appreciate the work of AIG. Sound biblical teaching, always.
One of the things I like about Ross is that he seems willing to discuss these things with anyone and does so in the most gracious manner anyone could hope for. Did you ask him before implying he might be telling us intentional lies?
You did no research before making this comment. If you had done so, you would have realized that Answers in Genesis has challenged Hugh Ross's teaching for 2 decades, including in debates. Contrary to what you state, Ross has always proved stubborn to scriptural correction. So you should rather ask if Ross checked his outlandish claims with biblical ministries like AiG, before publishing them. Of course, he never did so. And Ross's views are not private. So they are not to be opposed privately, but publicly. The correct verse to guide our engagement with Ross is not Matthew 8:15, but Matthew 8:6.
What bothers me about young earth dogma is that it is pulling young kids away from Christ
I really appreciate how Satan presents himself as an angel of light too. It makes him so much more palatable and easy to follow.
@@vaeshethblade931 Very true . . . you might want to visit KnowHIS Name (S.N) to discover more about satan's deceitful tactics that are in most bibles and taught by many churches.
@@vaeshethblade931 I've noticed that pride is one of his most effective tools.
28:12
"I have applied all these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, brothers, that you may learn by us not to go beyond what is written, that none of you may be puffed up in favor of one against another. For who sees anything different in you? What do you have that you did not receive? If then you received it, why do you boast as if you did not receive it?"
1 Corinthians 4:6-7
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I love how the writings of Irenaues (quoted by Hugh Ross, who is proven false in this video) were titled "Against Heresies." How fitting that these claims are used to counter the heresies of contemporary Christians lol
Here's a serious consideration. Do you observe God's Shabbat, the 7th day of the week, or Constantine's Sabbath, the 1st day of the week? If you don't get that right how could anyone trust anything else?
A question I posed many times... In many conversations... But I learned something about my particular lack of humility, during those little debates.... Not only did I not know everything... I came to realize that no one does. Even the deceived can find a nut sometimes😂(don't forget it's in the rules... Lucifer can use a little bit of Truth while lying and deceiving you😮) my brothers were particularly stubborn... As brothers do 😂 so I got my Strong's exhaustive concordance off-the-shelf.... Listed all the scriptures positively identifying The Seventh-Day as the Sabbath of God.... (New testament only... You know how people are)... Then I listed the eight times first day of the week was mentioned... Being they particularly hard headed and stubborn individual that he was.... It took him awhile to donate some of his land and built a big church on it... And opened it up Friday night at sundown! 😂🙏 Nearly three decades later, still hasn't looked back🎉
@@jimhughes1070 outstanding! It's always good to know that I'm not alone. I've never understood how Christians could be fooled about the most basic of God's laws. To remember the Sabbath and keep it holy.
I blame this for all of the ugly and evil things that Christians somehow excuse. Failing to understand the most important truth.
It was great to hear from you. So glad you have done God's work.
BSafe. BBlessed
@@deanfranklin6870 the Lord shine his Face upon you and yours!! 🙏
The first Christians were Jewish believers. Later, as Gentiles came to believe in Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour, the Synagogues did not allow Gentiles to even be in the building. For the Apostle Paul, this was not a problem. He simply met with Jewish believers at the Synagogues when Jewish services were over, and met with Gentiles the next day. As Paul began having problems with even entering the Synagogues at all, the Jewish believers and Gentile believers met together on Sunday. This is not a hard conclusion to arrive at.
In at least one of Paul's Epistles, he said for followers not to judge others by what Sabbaths and holidays one should keep.
Paul didn't like the "Judaizers" telling the Gentiles that they had to become Jews or practice, for example, Kosher laws. The Gentiles were not bound by these restrictions because that was part of the old covenant. The moral principles were all that were required of them.
Judeo-Christian values are what has come down to us today. This represents what is acceptable and good in the eyes of the Lord.
@@stevenward3856 yep... Start rite out with making stuff up... That's how they do it 😂 Paul wrote letter after letter... Curiously the subject never came up... And Jewish Christians would have no problem with gentile Christians being present.... They were Christians. I got to get ready for church.... Sun's going down a little bit... Can't wait to service is over to get to the rest of your comment 🙏😍 nevermind...I can't let that lie... I've read that passage many times. Either Paul was "not" a servant of God, and was teaching contrary to Jesus' own words.... Or he was being consistent with what he always preached.... "Sin is transgression of the LAW"... and telling the gentiles, to disregard the pressure being put on them by their family and peers. What you're saying is standard Sunday morning doctrinal fare... I suppose you're also familiar with the " failure to enter into His Rest" passage as well? The seminaries also turn that into a fiasco!! Not realizing their extermination friends God into a sinner! Words have meaning.... I can't tell you how many times I've heard someone preach... "Everything Jesus preached, while confirming the Covenant... Was nullified as soon as he died on the cross! WTHeck? (Supposedly even the part where the Rich Young Man asked how to receive eternal life 🤔) Moses had an administration... And now we're under Jesus'administration... Agreed? Many Sunday schools teach that the law is "done away with"... Then what need have we of Christ? Would not it have been much simpler, for him to declare from The mountain top.... There is no more law!...? Or did he strive on our behalf, at the behest of his Father, because "Sin is transgression of the law"?... And due to the close proximity of people everyday... There's great difficulty in "not" committing sin... (People say you can't keep the... I submit the interrogative... Why? There's only 10... And God even had them printed in my native tongue! 😂)... "Be angry, but don't sin" I know I haven't changed your "religion" today. But consider this. Read the Bible (the whole Bible) and believe it at "face value"... In fact that's how I judged the apostolic Epistles.... If they don't line up with the Bible (Genesis to Malachi)... Then there's a problem with my understanding or theirs... (Jesus preached the Bible... I'll go with His Word everyday, over somebody that can't figure out the "memorial of a Six-Day creation"... Cuz that's what GOD says it is.
No mention of the fact that Gen 1 tells us that God 'restored' the earth from a state of destruction as described in Gen 1:2 which says that the earth 'became' tohu and bohu, void and formless. It states elsewhere that when God created the earth the angels shouted for joy because it was perfect (Job 38)! Hardly what is described in Gen 1:2. So yes, the bible does support an earth that is 4.5 billion yrs old as geology says. The angels, led by the one who became ha satan and would become demons, lived on the earth from it's creation till Helel (Lucifer was never ha satans name) tried to overthrow God in Heaven and was defeated and thrown back to earth which now lay in utter chaos and destruction, tohu and bohu, void and formless!
That would mean there was death before sin. the Gap theory is very bad theology, lots of articles on the website.
@@calvinsmith7575 How would there be death before sin? And to read articles about it on your website would mean I would be reading lies.
@@tubedude54 If God restored the world from a state of destruction as you are interpreting Genesis 1:2, and the evidence of that are the rock layers filled with fossils (dead things), then there was death before Adam sinned...And if you refuse to engage in arguments from the 'other side' in a logical manner and simply dismiss them as 'lies' automatically- there is exactly ZERO usefulness in engaging in discussion. Blessings.
@@calvinsmith7575 Nice deflection of the evidence I have presented BUT... animals can't sin so their death has nothing to do with sin. The evidence is all there in the bible for angels inhabiting the earth, for who knows how many yrs, before Gen 1:2 shows the earth in total chaos. If you know your bible then you know it says that God is not a God of 'confusion' meaning God did NOT create it in a state of chaos so it had to BECOME that way from something that happened... and we see it was because of the rebellion of 1/3 of the angels and war that occurred in Heaven. You my friend are deceived and preaching your deceit to people and as such you will be judged accordingly.
Thank you for this video. Very helpful 🙏
Dude the drip is just too clean with this man
Evolutionists thought Petrified wood was millions of year old, untill Mt Saint Hellen blew trees into nearby lakes and 30 years later they are starting to petrify..
Skeleton Lake in the Himalaya is where people died climbing above the flood - 16,470 ft = Noah's Ark !
Incorrect on all levels, you nitwit
That may be what you believed but scientists have known about instant petrification since the 1700s when they found the people Instantly petrified from Mount Vesuvius In Pompeii
@justice4all130 so is it correct in stating that Petrified wood/humans, etc. does NOT validate the Age of something? Just curious.
@@JohnPaul-ol5zl
It can still be very useful in the validating of the age in the case of Mount Vesuvius we can tell you the exact year month and I believe even the day that they were petrified
Since the entire process took place in mere minutes to everything in that area
excellent video well prepared thank you so much. I believe it is time that we begin to view Origen of Alexandria as the liberal that he was and Augustine as the father of Catholicism and not necessarily then of the true ancient faith
Jesus is the farher of the true faith.
Whoever said that was Josephus?
Augustine was not the father of Catholicism. Jesus Christ is when he told St Peter that he was the rock upon which God would build the church and that he handed St Peter the keys on Heaven (in OT Jewish culture keys meant an office to be passed on from one generation to the next). Apostolic succession is also clearly established in Acts when they had to cast lots to determine the successor of Judas Iscariot. That being said St Augustine was a hedonistic pagan prior to his conversion but thanks be to God his mother St Monica prayer daily for 15 years for his conversion before he finally converted and became a bishop and one of the greatest theologians (though not everything he said was infallible by any means)
Gap theory falls apart when you remember flora is dependent on solar, lunar, and seasonal cycles. Plants of all types were created before the sun and moon.
Wow so many theologians ignorant of the truth of scripture. It's amazing how the more education a person gets the more ignorant they are of Biblical truth. Scripture tells us again and again that God created in six days and so many theologians can't seem to understand what a day is. I had one Pastor try to explain to me why Genisis didn't really mean a literal 24 hour day when it spoke of the creation but everywhere else in scripture when it used that same word it meant a 24 hour day, but not in Genisis. "Thinking themselves to be wise they became fools". Some Pastores are so ignorant they even want us to think that men should be able to marry men and women should be able to marry women and men can get pregnant and people can change their gender. "Thinking themselves to be wise they became fools". That describes a lot of pastors and theologians today.
Well done, brother. Very encouraging.
Is the reference at 14:56 correct? I don't find those words in my complete edition of 'City of God'. I think it's Chapter 10 of the same book (though I have a different translation).
Praying for us all in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ ❤️🙏🙏🙏🙏💞 my Savior 💗💕 1 Corinthians 15
It's a bit of confusion because God did say a day to him is a thousand years. Also he said the day they eat from the tree they would die. And they did die within the thousand year day. Even if adding 6000 yrs is a lot less than millions of years.
Actually, it was Peter who said that "with the Lord, one day is AS a thousand years, and a thousand years AS one day"-2nd Peter 3:8. Which simply means that for God, since He is eternal, time is irrelevant, because He is outside of time. He created time for our benefit, not His.
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It's also in Psalm 90:4.
True, true, but here is something you can also consider. Yes, they died physically within the first thousand years, but they died spiritually on the very same day they sinned. Spiritual death triggers the process of physical death. Adam and Eve realised they were naked and so they made coverings from fig leaves. Consequently, fig leaves became a type of false religion that cannot save. A false covering. Remember Jesus cursed the fig tree, which was a sign of the impending destruction of Jerusalem. This is why God could not accept the fig leaf coverings Adam and Eve made (their own works of the flesh), but God made them animal skin clothing to cover their nakedness and shame. It had to be an animal blood sacrifice (most likely a lamb) to cover them until Jesus, the Lamb of God would come to take away the sins of the world. So we can see that they were in need of a sin sacrifice on the same 24 hour day they sinned. It’s amazing to think that God performed the first and the last sacrifice. Hope this is helpful. God bless, from Down Under.
They would become conscious that their physical bodies would someday die.
@@jamestrotter3162 yes, since everything in God's word is God inspired, whoever wrote it I tend to say God said.
Augustine is not friend of mine undermines so much of Biblical truth and opened the gates for so many wrong practices. He untethered the word from its firm foundations
Thank you! Well done!
As always, inflammatory title, but great video. The titles have really been my only complaint about answers in genesis. Otherwise, I love the ministry.
I'll wager 99.99% of seminaries (apparently cemeteries is a better word) do not include those warnings at the end of the video!! In fact every Sunday preacher I ever talked with, paved his departure from the scripture, with his dependence on "Church law".... While simultaneously explaining away the need for God's law.!🤣🤣🤣🤣 Sorry it's probably not funny... The billions they have deceived over the last 2000 years..... But stupid is as stupid does!
Fallen fallen is Babylon the Great.
@@Lazarus365 there it is!!! 👍‼️
Not funny, but ironic and upside down like everything is🙄
Great teaching
However, I got to say, Simon the tanner from Acts would be jealous for that vest. 😆
Very good presentation.
6:18 Jewish Historian Josephus Quoted account of creation.
6:35 Iraneus Quoted account of creation.
7:07 Basil's Quoted account of creation.
7:37 Thomas aquinas Quoted account of creation.
8:23 Theophilus of Antioch Qouted account of creation.
8:35 Father Lactantius Quoted account of creation.
11:39 for the first 18 centuries the Young earth View was the majority view of the church, whether Catholic, orhthodox.
13:35 Augustine"s Quotes on account of creation 14:39 Augustine Quote on Age of the Earth
16:20 Origens Account on creation and age of the earth
20:13 Augustine was a young Earth creationist i.e. believed in young earth
20:56 Old earth creationist Fabricated claims on Early church Beliefs
21:56 How many early Church fathers were there?
24:05 Why did Christian Phd Hugh Ross make these Fabricated Claims in the first place?
26:25 "But it doesnt matter what the church fathers said, it matters what the bible said" and we would agree
Thanks for doing this- I appreciate you taking the time 👍
@@calvinsmith7575 Ive watched this video about 10 times with others 😅 its about time i added the Time stamps for others, By the way is this really you Calvin? thank you so much for the work you do and standing on Gods word Over Mans fallible word
@@BE_WERM It's really me : ). You are very welcome, thanks for sharing, we appreciate the encouragement : ). Blessings
Ex 20:9-11 makes everything clear!
And which day on our calendar is the 7th day?
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It's a Saturday, about 6189 years ago.
I don't know what month, but maybe Adar.
I'm sure many of you know about *Dr. Tour* , a leading American *chemist and nanotechnologist* who is a Professor of Chemistry, Professor of Materials Science and Nanoengineering, and Professor of Computer Science at Rice University in Houston, Texas.
He is a huge proponent of young earth theology.
thank u..well said, holding up the Word. amen.
When,I was 16 years of age in 1963 the age of the earth was around 3 billion years. Today in 2023 the age is around 12 billion years so, in the last 60 years the earth has aged over 10 billion years. It is really interesting researching how the age is determined. It has absolutely nothing to do with Scientific Experimentation but affirmation of their assumptions.
Nonsense. The earth is believed (and I use the word "believed" intentionally, here) roughly 4 billion years old. That was believed when you were 16 and it is still believed, today. The age of the universe is believed to be around 13 billion years. It was believed when you were 16 and it is still believed, today. Why? because of scientific observations. Not because it is a doctrine, but because observations gives us numbers that we can calculate on and get to those ages estimates.
Early church fathers believed in the Eucharist and confession too.
I did the math in grad 6... using how old people were when they had the next child on the list and so forth... the math gave me just under 9000 years the age of the universe.
3:07 that is what derails a believer when he listens or reads writings of mere humans in ignorance or worse, in complete disregard of what god actually caused to be written in the book. it is commendable to listen to teachings of others but it behooves every believer to check these out from the very word of god like the bereans did after hearing the teaching of paul and silas.
The clear and plain reading of Genesis is that creation was in six literal days.
We have a genealogy starting at Adam. Makes it pretty clear that Genesis was meant to be taken literally.
SPOT ON
"STAND on the authority of Gods word, dispite the pressure of the world "
Excellent insights!
The basic precept of Christianity is, BELIEVE GOD. That's what God wants. That's what His eyes roam all over the earth looking for. Someone who will believe Him. And He should be believed!!! Because God is good, and He cannot lie.
Refuse To Compromise At All Costs!!! We Believe In Order to Understand. MARANATHA, Even So, Come Dear LORD JESUS.
It is entirely uninteresting what early church fathers believed about the age of the earth or the universe. For centuries, the church also held to it's beliefs about witches and had them tortured and executed.
We don't do that anymore. Enlightenment came and even the church became enlightened. No one misses the medieval era. Thank God we managed to move on from that.
I've known since the first day I met the Almighty God.... He's not a liar.... And if you don't believe Him, you are already on the road to further deception!.... But I digress 🤣 I started typing because I wanted to pose the rhetorical interrogative. ""Who the hell are these "supposed fathers" .... That we should believe what they say, when so many of the things they teach are contrary to scripture!?!? They are no one!! And someday it will be as though they never were! If anyone ever tells you "well I know the Bible teaches that, BUT, the church decided.... Run! You're talking to a demon!
Thank you very much for this exposé.
I fail to see an issue with the fact that any of the early Bishops and The Church around them debated and discussed/reviewed about a day (roughly 24 hours) vs 1 day = 1000 calendar years (approximately 360 or 365 days). It is great that The Church in the first few centuries were strong and loyal in their faith that they were willing and able to discuss any questions or theories without their faith in Jesus ever being put into question. I do see that many a new age belief will see the same fate as Constantinople or Babylon but the difference being that the fate of schismists in this day and age shall be eternal.
TY for an excellent overview of the facts. Am very grateful for all your efforts in doing your best to serve God and His Church.
Stay safe,
God bless.
Augustine also gave the church the "original sin" doctrine and the "eternal conscious torment" doctrine, both of which was not believed before he became Catholic's little golden boy!
If we can't take the scriptures in the first book of the Bible literally, how can we believe the rest? I say let GOD be GOD, and if the Creator of all there is, who created everything out of nothing, decided to create the earth, why could HE not do it in six days? Genesis is the foundation for the rest of the Bible! Jesus told us to build on the rock and not on sand. Is Genesis rock or is it sand? I believe it is rock. We may not totally understand every story in this Book, but if it is The WORD of GOD, I choose to believe it in faith. If I don't have the faith to believe in the first Book of GOD, how can I believe in GOD?
I believe in the Triune God and the Texts God has given us. Failing to believe may be hazardous to you eternal soul.
You know who supported a literal 6 day creation? Jesus. He said in the beginning God created them male and female. Jesus goes on to name the 4th person to walk the earth, Abel.
So believe in billions of years and call Jesus a liar or believe in the God of truth.
I pick Christianity.
The Bible is an Authority without equal and nature is a silent witness that testify to the matchless superiority of the Master Mind in Heaven. Checking the counted ages of those magnificent Redwoods in Northern California recently, I could find none that predates the Biblical timeline for Noah's flood. It is amazing to watch how science keeps on improving methodology confirming that the Creation account in Genesis has been factually correct all the time. And it is high time that we as professing Christians pay closer attention to the significance of the 7th Day of Creation as well.
Problem 1: Before the earth was in orbit and circling the sun, there was simply no ability to measure time
in any capacity.
Problem 2: In Eternity, how is there any capacity to measure time at all. Eternity and time are mutually
Exclusive.
Poor God…He couldn’t properly measure time? It is not a necessity to assume there aren’t successions of moments in “eternity.” Your reasoning is autonomous and speculative.
If our Heavenly Father is eternal, how can there be time in eternity? I am not casting aspersions on our Father or Savior, only stating facts. Christ, himself stated, he knows not the time of his return. That can be examined in two ways 1st way. There is no capacity to measure time in eternity or, 2 Christ is imperfect and simply doesn't know. And, successions of movement, in the universe, is time fixed or variable? What make you believe that Heavenly Father and Christ live in this 3D universe that is constantly changing? In my opinion, feeble as it is, change isn't possible in something perfect. A perfectly finished diamond is always perfect. No imperfections, No inclusions. @@charlesheck6812
This Bible quote is LITTTT
Most English bibles have been corrupted . . . to find out how, go to KnowHIS Name (S.N) for the Truth
- on the first day, the firmament was placed and so the times within in that of the evening and the morning...
As for an long Earth creation that is crazy then you think of the order of creation. Gen 1:11 gives us vegetation on the 2nd day and we don’t get the sun and moon until day 3 in verse 14. So if you make each day a 1000 years the green stuff couldn’t live 1000 year until day 3 for sun light.
You’re funny…
A. We have vegetation that grown in zero light now. It exist now, so it could have existed then.
B. God’s day being as a 1000 years isn’t literal. It’s to show that God is timeless. He can afford to wait 16,000,000,000 years for something, because He has existed infinite years. 16,000,000,000 is as a second to God.
C. You literally just proved that the Genesis “days” aren’t literal 24 hour days, because there was no sun dictating our 24 hour day in the first couple days.
A “day” in genesis could simply be a time period. Wether one 24 hour day or 5,000,000,000 years… it could be either.
A God that could create everything in 7 days, would also be smart enough and powerful enough to plan out all of creation and expand it in to billions of years worth of natural processes. He certainly has the time to wait.
I wish the Bible would state the time between Nebuchadnezzar and Jesus.
I added as I went, earlier this year, and I had to look outside of Scripture to find the length if the gap.
wise words my friend 🙏
God made everything in 6 days not in millions!!!!!!
Wickedness is generally considered a synonym for evil or sinfulness. Among theologians and philosophers, it has the more specific meaning of a profound evil committed consciously and of free will. Sola Scriptura, upon closer examination, really isn’t Scriptural. Sola Scriptura seems to be a form of wicked rebellion. I was a Lutheran boy that believed strongly in Sola Scriptura. But it was the late 90's that I was humbled. Until the 4th century most Christians used the LXX as the basis for the Old Testament. St. Augustine, arguing from tradition, wanted all the deuterocanonical books included in new vulgate translation.
Interesting Facts: St. Augustine apparently used an Old Latin version of the Old Testament. He actually preferred this even after he became acquainted with St. Jerome’s ‘new translation’ from the Hebrew (aka: The Vulgate). St. Augustine apparently disapproved of the new translation because he believed that the Greek LXX had been inspired- and that it was presumptuous for the one scholar St. Jerome to undertake such a revision. When you translate Hebrew Idioms into literal Greek Poetry, the start of the confusion begins. I thank the Lord that the Scriptures clearly state (in all languages) that we do not need the Scriptures to know God, but the Holy Scriptures are the most accurate written record of God. ❤
27:52 It's unfortunate that He got this right but didn't include a reference to back it up
James 3:1 Let me also include the context.
James 3 NIV
Taming the Tongue
1Not many of you should become teachers, my fellow believers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly.
2 We all stumble in many ways. Anyone who is never at fault in what they say is perfect, able to keep their whole body in check. 3 When we put bits into the mouths of horses to make them obey us, we can turn the whole animal. 4 Or take ships as an example. Although they are so large and are driven by strong winds, they are steered by a very small rudder wherever the pilot wants to go. 5 Likewise, the tongue is a small part of the body, but it makes great boasts. Consider what a great forest is set on fire by a small spark. 6 The tongue also is a fire, a world of evil among the parts of the body. It corrupts the whole body, sets the whole course of one’s life on fire, and is itself set on fire by hell.
7 All kinds of animals, birds, reptiles and sea creatures are being tamed and have been tamed by mankind, 8 but no human being can tame the tongue. It is a restless evil, full of deadly poison.
9 With the tongue we praise our Lord and Father, and with it we curse human beings, who have been made in God’s likeness. 10 Out of the same mouth come praise and cursing. My brothers and sisters, this should not be. 11 Can both fresh water and salt water flow from the same spring? 12 My brothers and sisters, can a fig tree bear olives, or a grapevine bear figs? Neither can a salt spring produce fresh water.
Two Kinds of Wisdom
13 Who is wise and understanding among you? Let them show it by their good life, by deeds done in the humility that comes from wisdom. 14 But if you harbor bitter envy and selfish ambition in your hearts, do not boast about it or deny the truth. 15 Such “wisdom” does not come down from heaven but is earthly, unspiritual, demonic. 16 For where you have envy and selfish ambition, there you find disorder and every evil practice.
17 But the wisdom that comes from heaven is first of all pure; then peace-loving, considerate, submissive, full of mercy and good fruit, impartial and sincere. 18 Peacemakers who sow in peace reap a harvest of righteousness.
Why do some question the six literal days?
It goes back to the Original 4 word question that injected doubt into the heart.
"did God really say?"
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Irenaeus's quote has to do with Jewish timetables and Jewish feasts. Peter meant the same thing when he said one day is the same as 1000 years. The earth's age is an example of creation week and it will culminate on Saturday, Shabbot, the 7th day. The feast that is referenced is Sukkot, the feast of tabernacles. The 7th day is the 1000 year reign of Christ and the time of earth's rest. The 8th day is when God dwells with men forever, with the new heavens and new earth. Failure to understand the Jewish feasts and creation week and God's timetable means we fail to understand Messiah's return and his kingdom to come. We are nearly at the end of the age of man, the number 6, or 6000 years. The current year is: 5948 according to the Essene Calendar from the Dead Sea Scrolls, which is the same one used by Jesus, and by John the Baptist, and by the sons of Zadok of the tribe of Levi. The end of the age is upon us.
It is incorrect to refer to Catholic philosophers and theologians as Christian. The only Christian church fathers were those mentioned in the book of Acts. Otherwise, this video is highly accurate and praise-worthy.
Really?
History shows us that Jesus didn't leave us a bible, the apostles didn't tell us which books belong in the bible, the church fathers never agreed on the 27 books of the NT through the 4th century, not only did they not agree but their list of would-be NT canons were GROWING during this time. So, if it wasn't the Catholic/Orthodox church that compiled the 27 books of the NT in the 5th century, just 75 years AFTER the council of Nicaea which began the Trinitarian docrtine, and then with the guidance of the Holy Spirit, and preserved these scriptures by laboriously hand copying them over and over throughout the centuries before the invention of the printing press, the “rule of faith” for many, please tell us, show us, who did? And if this church no longer exists today, what good is the text which came forth from her if she couldn't sustain herself?
I believe in the young earth as described. However, God can take as long as he wants to build a world and then explain that to his people in any way that he thinks will help them to understand. When I leave this earth I expect to learn much more about the details of creation. Woe is me if I decline to accept anything He teaches me.
Putting God in His rightful prospective, I believe the Word of God at face value. As a "Believer" in Jesus Christ, why would I not believe the whole book that taught me of His love, and sacrifice He made for me? The question, 6 days for God to create creation, if God cannot just speak it into existence then He's not God, when we all know HE IS! He is a living, answering, wrathful, but loving God! Better ask another way? Do you believe Jesus walked on the water, or turned the water into wine? Yes you do, because if you do not believe that, how do you believe in that He is alive and on the throne today? We know He is!
We are talking the Alpha and Omega, the "I Am"! He is clothed in rainbows, when He speaks it sounds as many waters or trumpets, He is so loud, He not only created the entire world and galaxy with all thats beyond, He was here before time existed! We cannot fathom His thoughts, we cannot understand all of His way, we don't have that capacity. He is so far above us. It's interesting to talk about these things, but we will not understand Him, until we can just Ask Him.
Most theologians nowadays claim to take the Bible literally and then get very upset when you point out what it really does say.
Our minds are so clouded with preconceived ideas, teaching we grew up with, and errant doctrines, that we can’t even understand the words that are before eyes.
As far as Genesis goes, the book gives us very little to go on. Then, our theologians don’t allow us to have Enoch.
I’d like to see Calvin Smith vs Gavin Ortlund on the subject specifically of the Early Church record on this.
So what? You guys added Christmas and Easter and effectively removed the sabbath. I don't see you have some big problem with those EVEN THOUGH those weren't a thing for 400 YEARS in Christianity.
Dont forget we added the 27 books too…
History shows us that Jesus didn't leave us a bible, the apostles didn't tell us which books belong in the bible, the church fathers never agreed on the 27 books of the NT through the 4th century, not only did they not agree but their list of would-be NT canons were GROWING during this time. So, if it wasn't the Catholic/Orthodox church that compiled the 27 books of the NT in the 5th century, just 75 years AFTER the council of Nicaea which began the Trinitarian docrtine, and then with the guidance of the Holy Spirit, and preserved these scriptures by laboriously hand copying them over and over throughout the centuries before the invention of the printing press, the “rule of faith” for many, please tell us, show us, who did? And if this church no longer exists today, what good is the text which came forth from her if she couldn't sustain herself?
Is Usher right with 4004 BC or is the common Jewish claim of some 3761 BC correct? If the former, then 6,000 years have passed already. If the latter, then we still have quite some time before the Mark of the Beast and all that. If neither, then when did the world begin?
- and the Spirit of God moved upon the waters .../- which describes movement towards the separation of and (not the spoken as into existence)
You seem to push the "fact" that if a christian is an Old Earther, he is also a Darwinian supporter. I can tell you this is a false assumption. You also need to account for well known Hebrew scholars who break down the syllables of Genesis 1, and conclude that the language used is not necessarily describing literal 24 solar days. And could also be interpreted to mean long spans of time. I am a good example of self taught BIble learning and simply disagree with YEC on the age of the earth. I also disagree with a " pre trib rapture". which nearly all YEC believe also. THere are some Bible topics that we will never be able to know are correct until we leave here, so maybe its best not to be too dogmatic and accuse other Christians of being LIARS.
Calvin Smith: "...as they are fact checked publicly, their conclusions have been proven to be so demonstrably false that to hold them would be akin to outright liying..." An almost perfect description of the conclusions of young earth creationists. Here's a question. We know that people have lived in the Americas for many thousands of years, certainly more than two thousand years, so why didn't Jesus ever visit them. There were people in Europe in those days too, but for some reason Jesus just hung around ancient Palestine. Apparently he didn't think the rest of humanity needed his ministry.
It is best to learn from the word of God rather than supposed scholars. The word of God promises that the Holy Spirit will guide us into all wisdom and understanding through the word itself. There is no better teacher than the Holy Spirit!
Well-put and especially the scriptural warnings, the evidence is going to be more evident that the heavens and the earth is short of 6000 years, at least under 10,000. It is about trusting God rather than man, fear God and keep His commandments. We live in a chaotic world where anything goes following whatever pursuits suits them.
Augustine's supposed belief in an instant creation, @14:00, is not well established in the quote. I think it can be read as him commenting regarding God speaking over the successive days, and on each day the formation he commanded standing forth complete, in an instant each time without intervening periods of time for development. The development would follow.
But let's sit with the supposition that Augustine did consider the whole creation instant while the creation being described by the Spirit as a set of actions over 6 calendar days to 'accommodate' us (inexplicably). This has to be rejected on a number of grounds, but basically because it re-casts who God is.
The days of Genesis 1 show God at work, in his own terms and by his own word (Heb 11:3). They are God saying 'this is what I do (and it shows who I am)'. If he was not actually at work, but did something else, Genesis 1 is deceptive as to who God is and, indeed, who we are; let alone what the cosmos is and how all three relate together. This would throw into great doubt the meaning of being created in God's image as, on Augustine's supposed presumption, we have no idea as to who God is or how he acts in reality and so no reference for our image. God is not a platonic idealist, but a 'concrete realist'. All theology springs from historic realities and God's revelation in respect of the flow of biblical history, to borrow Schaeffer's term (ironic in that he didn't think the days of Genesis 1 were important, despite Paul in 2 Tim 3:16).
The days contain the demonstration of who God is: he acts in concrete created reality; his word has real effect in that reality; reality is congruent with and responsive to the propositional word of God and is therefore subject to propositional analysis: we can talk about it in reality with real meaning. This is very important as it sidelines the magical or mythical pretenses of paganism which subordinate the material world to an inconsistent causality, frustrating real understanding of it.
God shows in his work over successive days the building of the creation in a dependency sequence. With the creation of man in his image, he reprises his own work in that we will echo that work in kind, while not in power, as his vicegerents.
In this he shows two things: he gives the basis for his coming companionship with his creatures: they in his image constrained by the same days, the same tempo of life, the same passing cadence that he chooses to demonstrate and endorse by creating to their tempo (which he created). He's there with us, so to speak.
This leads to the second thing he demonstrates: that he is present and active in the creation. He is near, only a word away from it! He shows intimacy of contact, not distance; loving concern for fellowship, not indifferent disregard. He shows that he is involved and committed, as is suggested in Hebrews 11:3.
If he had created instantly, there would be no temporal connection; his work would not have been placed in history and demonstrated so but would have been unlocatable in time and disconnected with our existential world. This is the picture of the deist fake god! It is how fairy stories work, dehistoricized, untraceable and disconnected from our real world.
But he created quickly and directly, showing himself as the one separate from the cosmos, from his creation, and holy with respect to it while wanting us to know that this was quick in terms of our time (but not his): a great demonstration, again, of his love for us. The fake gods of either progressive creation or theistic evolution are merged into creation at some level, without distinction from it and, aside from giving the lie to Genesis 1 to 3, move toward god identical with the creation: a god with an identity different to the Creating Father and finally indistinguishable from the pagan 'god who is the cosmos' and utterly impersonal, of whom we would merge with meaninglessly.
The stones are now shouting, thanks to recent scientific discoveries, that earth is about 6 thousand year. Old earth is only a theory when we could not understand God’s way of manage the universe or the smallest atom.
well we can say that the day might have had 25 hours instead of 24 at the time based on how we jusge time now... Now if this is relevant or not...
I do not know what Augustine’ has to do with the Colonel's recipe.
This is it. It has not come from Augustine. I do not think the Colonel was Catholic anyway.
THE ORIGINAL 11 SPICES & HERBS SECRET RECIPE?
Prep: 30 minutes
Soak: 20-30 minutes in brine
Cook: 15-18 minutes
Makes: 4 servings
2 cups all-purpose flour
2/3 tablespoon salt
1/2 tablespoon dried thyme leaves
1/2 tablespoon dried basil leaves
1/3 tablespoon dried oregano leaves
1 tablespoon celery salt
1 tablespoon ground black pepper
1 tablespoon dried mustard
4 tablespoons paprika
2 tablespoons garlic salt
1 tablespoon ground ginger
3 tablespoons ground white pepper
1 cup buttermilk
1 egg, beaten
1 chicken, cut up, the breast pieces cut in half for more even frying
Expeller-pressed canola oil
1. Mix the flour in a bowl with all the herbs and spices; set aside.
2. Mix the buttermilk and egg together in a separate bowl until combined. Soak the chicken in the buttermilk mixture at room temperature, 20-30 minutes.
3. Remove chicken from the buttermilk, allowing excess to drip off. Dip the chicken pieces in the herb-spice-flour mixture to coat all sides, shaking off excess. Allow to sit on a rack over a baking sheet, 20 minutes.
4. Meanwhile, heat about 3 inches of the oil in a large Dutch oven (or similar heavy pot with high sides) over medium-high heat to 350 degrees. (Use a deep-frying thermometer to check the temperature.) When temperature is reached, lower the heat to medium to maintain it at 350. Fry 3 or 4 pieces at a time, being careful not to crowd the pot. Fry until medium golden brown, turning once, 15-18 minutes. Transfer chicken pieces to a baking sheet covered with paper towels. Allow the oil to return to temperature before adding more chicken. Repeat with remaining chicken.