Genius Idea for Making Small Drawers or Beyond Stupid? You Tell Me
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2021
- This is steel stud wall framing you can get at any building supply store. Actually the track (or plate) the wall studs fasten to at the top and bottom. This has straight sides and no holes, so much better for this.
The hardest part is cutting it into pieces. I used my grinder with a thin cutting blade and no guard (responsible for his own actions adult here, so go find some children to lecture after I ban you from my channel), but sheet metal snips would also work. The easiest way would be if you have one of those metal cutting chop saws, but avoid using the one for cutting wood!
Actually you could use the miter saw if you used an old blade and made a hold rig like I did for the hacksaw - just cut through the holding rig and say your prayers.
I knew the hacksaw wouldn't work (even with a blade with more teeth) but built the holding rig to give it the best chance of working just to demonstrate that it wouldn't work. 'Cause I knew guys would ask if they can use a hacksaw. Try it for yourself. Do it!
Jigsaw with metal cutting blade? Yes, but more difficult.
Dremel? Yes, but you are going to need a big stack of cutting disks and an afternoon to do it.
I did this project VERY quickly, so it's not an example of my best work. You will realize superior results if you slow down and do a good job of cutting the parts and cleaning everything up.
The metal is fastened using 1/2" nails driven in as shown in the video. I used a center punch to start the hole and lock the parts together. This method is more than strong enough for whatever will be in these drawers, so don't be worrying it. Use tiny screws if this kind of thing keeps you up at night.
I decided after I started putting it together to add a bit of walnut to pretty it up. Think that the walnut takes the project overall from a 3 right up to a 7.5. Slowing down and being more careful could boost that to 8.5 or even a 9. 10 is reserved for anything with dovetails.
Of course these drawers can be made any length and have dividers inside. I used two different width as well.
If you a real metal worker, you can make these drawers without wood by cleverly bending up the ends. I was going to do that but thought this method was easier to accomplish for the average mess maker out in his mom's garage.
That blade change was going to be a UA-cam short, but I HATE UA-cam shorts so I put it where it belongs - in a real video.
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This is steel stud wall framing you can get at any building supply store. Actually the track (or plate) the wall studs fasten to at the top and bottom. This has straight sides and no holes, so much better for this.
The hardest part is cutting it into pieces. I used my grinder with a thin cutting blade and no guard (responsible for his own actions adult here, so go find some children to lecture after I ban you from my channel), but sheet metal snips would also work. The easiest way would be if you have one of those metal cutting chop saws, but avoid using the one for cutting wood!
Actually you could use the miter saw if you used an old blade and made a hold rig like I did for the hacksaw - just cut through the holding rig and say your prayers.
I knew the hacksaw wouldn't work (even with a blade with more teeth) but built the holding rig to give it the best chance of working just to demonstrate that it wouldn't work. 'Cause I knew guys would ask if they can use a hacksaw. Try it for yourself. Do it!
Jigsaw with metal cutting blade? Yes, but more difficult.
Dremel? Yes, but you are going to need a big stack of cutting disks and an afternoon to do it.
I did this project VERY quickly, so it's not an example of my best work. You will realize superior results if you slow down and do a good job of cutting the parts and cleaning everything up.
The metal is fastened using 1/2" nails driven in as shown in the video. I used a center punch to start the hole and lock the parts together. This method is more than strong enough for whatever will be in these drawers, so don't be worrying it. Use tiny screws if this kind of thing keeps you up at night.
I decided after I started putting it together to add a bit of walnut to pretty it up. Think that the walnut takes the project overall from a 3 right up to a 7.5. Slowing down and being more careful could boost that to 8.5 or even a 9. 10 is reserved for anything with dovetails.
Of course these drawers can be made any length and have dividers inside. I used two different width as well.
If you a real metal worker, you can make these drawers without wood by cleverly bending up the ends. I was going to do that but thought this method was easier to accomplish for the average mess maker out in his mom's garage.
That blade change was going to be a UA-cam short, but I HATE UA-cam shorts so I put it where it belongs - in a real video.
I've seen some fairly long pieces of that metal stuff in a dumpster near where I live, never thought it could have another use though, thank you for showing me a new idea 👍
Adults being responsible for themselves is a novel idea and ppl in my country should try it sometime
Agree about the shorts..🤮. Great idea, glad you showed all the steps, even if I did have to slow it down! Thanks John.
Before all the new metal cutting saws came out, we used to put the circular saw blade on backwards to cut aluminum siding... I'd try it on these too!
Reminds me of the old one about the guy who was walking on the beach and finds a magic lamp. Rubs it and out pops the Genie. Asked for his wish the guy said he wanted to be a stud. Yep you guessed it... ended up in that new office complex in the east wall. You need to be specific to get what you want.
I like it John! One rule of thumb I used as a machinist was that never try to cut any thing thinner than the distance between two saw teeth. If the material is so thin it fits between saw teeth, the teeth aren't cutting, they are paddling, and can break. (great rule on a band saw) Obviously people can get around this when the material is softer than the blade. Again, nice work. I enjoy your thinking outside the box.
..or using a saw blade speed higher than the oscillation speed achieved by the materials resonance frequency. Preferably in synchronisation with opposing movement. Or simply put - bloody fast will do.
And if you think that is too tiring, just turn the bit upside down 👊🏻
@@tomfull6637 Wait, what? Table saw speeds aren't adjustable that I know of. And, are you saying to reverse the blade in the table saw? Wouldn't that throw the piece up?
@@WayPastCrazy2525 I was referring to the hand cutting that starts at 58 seconds. Turning it upside down gives you a much easier start. But then you have to have increasingly high speed and low pressure at the ends of the cut. (The high speed of angle grinders is a good example of what prevents them from grabbing hold of your workpiece when cutting. ) Hope it clarifies..
@@WayPastCrazy2525 ..not all have machines and cutting thin materials require high speed AND a very small attack angle. Metal or plastic..
When cutting with angle grinders many people do it wrong!
They cut through at one end and move onwards. The correct way is to move the grinder back and forth in its groove.
You don’t loose in cutting time but you gain in
A) much higher security (not splitting the disc)
B) much longer life of your disc (owing to the small attack angle.)
C) less heating of the work piece (warp, decarbonisation etc)
You know the lumber shortage is getting intense when John starts working with METAL!
There was never any shortage
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@@michaelbuddy I never saw a single empty shelf, just ridiculous prices
@@paulhopkins1905 there was definitely some price gouging but the wholesale prices have come down to where it was in 2018. This is more of an indictment of "just in time"/lean manufacturing than a political issue that some people are making it out to be.
@@michaelbuddy would't this be capitalism as intended?
So a feature, not a bug.
Could probably blame the state for not regulating enough, but that surely is not the American way.
I actually have an antique legal forms cabinet made with this same principle. The cabinet and drawer faces are quartersawn oak with brass label pulls. It holds up over time! Oh, and they used tiny brass screws.
Pretty cool idea. Next Level Carpentry does something similar with PVC fence post cut offs. It’s much more utilitarian and not as nice looking. I really liked how you dressed it up with some walnut.
Next level carpentry uses the pvc pieces more as dividers in a large tool box, or as a small carry case. Both the pvc and Johns metal stud build ideas are great ideas just different enough.
@@savage6394 I like next level but he can turn a ten minute video into a ten hour video.
@@savage6394 He also makes drawers out of them.
@@savage6394 funny thing.. I've used these steel channels for drawer organizers but find them a little to sharp to be touching. Would have the same issue as using them as parts bins. Perhaps I just need to be more selective
NLC has a source of fence part cut-offs, i sadly, do not. i'm gonna look at this method. not for drawers but as drawer organizers
What a great idea. I just happen to have a few lengths of thin walled steel C channel that I found while dumpster diving for scrap metal to practice welding on. I think that this would be a much nice use for it. Thank you John for the inspiration!
I absolutely adore this. Simple, using available material and easy to batch out. Making a drawer is theoretically as easy as making between 3-5 cuts.
Genius! This is great for small parts storage. Form factor is lighter and there is less wasted space than 1/4 ply. 20+ years ago I made a box out of foam core to carry wet 6x8 paintings. I still use it. All of the corners are rounded over and it’s a bit battered but it still does the job of carrying wet paintings home from plein air sessions.
Little trick I have picked up over the years as a general carpenter, with the light gauge steel studs/track like the one you’re using, you can snip up the sides like you did then use your square and run a utility knife across it a few times then you can bend it back and forth a few times and it’ll have a clean straight break, I find it much easier to do than trying to use the snips across
An unsung benefit of this approach is how much extra storage space you gain by utilizing the thin-wall material. Nicely done. And great storytelling without words.
Attaching fine furniture walnut next to construction grade plywood, is the wildest idea I ever saw, pretty cool.
That turned out really well. I don't like metal studs/plates but for this function they are perfect.
I knew that stuff was good for something. Great idea. This might actually draw me away from my old peanut butter jar storage. Walnut is one of my favorites too. Thanks for the video.
Maybe just make walnut lids for the peanutbutter jars?
I enjoyed the idea of the build but not the lack of commentary. I appreciate your comments and ideas while you progress with your builds. It helps to provide me with a greater understanding of your projects.
Absolutely love it when people take stuff that could potentially end up in a landfill and make something useful. Definitely genius and we all need to start thinking more along those lines. Very creative and out-of-the-box type thinking.
This is the kind of very satisfying project to go through, which will be quite handy for years. Hat's Off! Best, Serge
The genius is in the problem solving at luthiery level. Call it an exploration! Love this sort of thing. Thank you
Great idea ! I think I'll make some for the shop myself mine will be more utilitarian though with formed metal ends soldered together, thanks a million for the idea.
That’s a great idea, and inexpensive. The walnut was nice detail too! Great job!
Beautiful piece John!🎚🙏🇲🇾🇲🇾
Video is fantastic and the idea is great. It can be made as beautiful or as utilitarian as you want. This is a winner in my book.
And you do it again, another great product! Mixing mediums is creative and necessary at times. Good use of a product.
This is gorgeous.
Brilliant idea. Great job. Thanks John
Beautiful made Thank you
I love it! Well done. Thanks for sharing!
John, I truly enjoy this demonstrative, non-verbal method of training and demonstrating you have adopted recently.
it is accurate, to-the-point, and without the general waffle (That's what your 2nd channel is for, right?)
This approach is fantastic and all inclusive as it removes the language barrier. Well done.
If you like these kind of drawers, great! To me, they seem like far more trouble than they’re worth. You could build the same set of drawers in 1/4” plywood in half the time and end up with a nicer product.
Wow! What a great idea. Thank you for sharing this.
Wow John!
Beautiful work!!
In the shop AND EDITING!!
Keep up the GREAT JOB!!!
👍🏼👊🏼🙏🏼😎
A million subs! You deserve them. Hope everything is good with you. If I wanted to batch cut U profile to a pretty good tolerance on square I’d use your hacksaw jig with a recip saw with suitable blade. Glue a piece of metal sheet on the end of the jig and run the blade down it. Good repeatability factor.
Nice looking drawers and cabinet. The metal gives an industrial feel.
I really enjoy those genius ideas of yours! The walnut really adds some finesse to the project, just like the *Excessive Mahogany* used on a spot welder I saw today.
Nice! I did some boxes with old cans flattened out for sides. But the use of the steel framing is cool.
Love it. So simple and cheap
That's a really great idea! Thanks for sharing!
Brilliant project, could watch this stuff all day.
John that is a great alternative use for steel studs. I really like your choice of wood species. I have been looking for Christmas gift ideas for my brother inlaw who is a leather crafter. This project is perfect.
Good idea. Thumbs up and thanks for posting!
IN MY BOOK..... GENIUS!!!!.
Commented before that I love the whole concept of "REDUCE, RE-USE & RECYCLE" I love the left field concepts that you do and see you recycling old project wood and cut offs into items with a new life.
Also love your small little shop that DOES NOT have thousands of dollars of equipment and to see what you come up with.
Keep up the amazing work dude and many many thanks for all your hard work on UA-cam.
❤👍❤👍❤👍❤👍❤👍❤👍
Great idea John!
This sparks some good ideas! Thanks for sharing.
Very, very nice, Mr. Adult Woodworker “responsible for his own actions.” 👍🏼👍🏼
In anticipation of some upcoming work with small bits of metal I made a sliding chop off saw for my angle grinder with some drawer slides. Allows cutting at exactly 90 degrees. I easily could use that for this job. It was about a 30 minute build so I was a bit surprised you didn't use something like that as it definitely would have saved you some time overall and have a useful tool for future projects.
Excellent idea!
Hi John, in addition to alternate method no.1 you could score the bottom of the track with a utility knife, snip both legs like you did, and then bend and snap the rest. It leaves a nice clean edge. I do that quite a bit being a commercial carpenter. Love the content
Great Idea, may try it.
Great idea.
Good work.
Thank you.
I like it. The bonus is you can probably get offcuts that are more than long enough at any commercial renovation project. No reason to buy new metal studs.
John, I think we all need to remember that there most certainly is a fine line between Genius and Insanity. Cutting the steel could be enough to drive one over the line. However, using the steel like this is in my opinion, sheer GENIUS!! Your videos are ALWAYS AWESOME and NEVER stale or boring! Your craftsmanship is superb! There is always something to be learned from your vids, even when you are not necessarily going for a "teaching" moment! So a huge THANK YOU to you for all your hard work! Also, I think the walnut sends this allll the way to 8.7!
Nicely done!
It's not stupid if it works, and this idea is great. I love the walnut, nothing says a quick project can't be fancy, and what a great way to repurpose some scraps!
Also, I love your hand-made tools, that blade changing wrench is amazing!
Brilliant idea and a wonderful job. Thank you very much for sharing your experience and knowledge!
That's pretty cool. Thanks John. Might be the inspiration I need to start my next project.
Thank you for sharing. Very nice.
Awesome use of scrap metal. Mahalo for sharing! 🙂🐒
Awesome John.
John, this turned out really nice. Excellent video. Thank you.
A no nonsence build with a stunning result. Dont sell yourself short, others will do it for you... simply love the end result.
I laughed at the NOPE! before the chop saw attempt. 😂 We have one specifically for cutting metal, maybe I'll give that a shot...
I think it is a genius idea John, especially if you work on a site where you can get offcuts that would get discarded anyway. Plus you can make them any length you want and you could easily fit spacers to make multi compartments. Gets the thumbs up from me!
Great idea John. Made me think outside the box and came up with a similar idea. Using steel "Top Hat", cut to length, fit front and back ply, rack system just made up with saw cuts for each container to slide in.
@@DavZell Steel Purlin (in Australia)
Wow. That turned out very nice!
Another winner.Well done
Genius of course!!! I did something similar but I cut up an old 8ft florescent light fixture to make drawers and wood to make the ends.
Top idea, thank you, I will give that one a try
Genius. Good lesson in cutting small parts too!
Great build - thanks! Walnut trim was a bonus. 👍
This looks very appropriate as a gift for an electronics geek.
I've cut steel studs with a hack saw and have had success with cutting from the flat side. As John shows, starting the cut from the open side is not a preferred method. Using any material to support the interior of the stud will only aid in the cut.
Everyone in Consruction will use a chop daw
@@cardboardboxification And this little project is not really aimed at those in construction... I'm thinking. Most DIY'ers I know don't have metal cutting chop saws, or will take the time to switch out the wood blade for the correct metal cutting blade.
if only I had some sort of ceramic cutting wet saw
John, you can also cut the legs of the stud with the tin snips then score the flat face with a utility knife a couple of times and then bend it back and forth till it snaps apart.
Genius Idea. Amazing job.
nice work! thanks for sharing
Looks great John
Super-cool design. I saw one on another channel that used pvc post material but I like this one better. I used to do a lot of metal stud framing when I worked in commercial building and I always liked the dimpled style. Looks cool. The repurpose gods are smiling.
I give it a thumbs up, plus it is a good way the use all perfectly good small pieces of lumber that seem to accumulate after other projects!
Excellent idea !!!
That’s actually a pretty cool concept. I am betting the metal bottoms would be stronger or as strong as 1/4” ply but significantly thinner. When making drawers I have always hated how much space I lose because of the thickness of the plywood vs metal. But I’m not a metal worker so I can’t build my own metal drawers lol
Nice clean finished product.
Looks good, great for storage of small pieces. 👍👍
Fantastic video! Great use of metal studs.
John you are one of the most creative builders on utube. Nice design. Thank you for sharing your design.
I like it. I'm going to try this.
That is a very cool idea! Never thought of using framing like that. I'm stealing your idea! Amazing as always!
Way to go John! That’s really thinking outside the box (joint)!
Genius! Easy and practical now that you showed us how to cut it up. Not as esthetically pleasing, but works great!
Murphy's Law of Combat #6: If it's stupid, but it works, it isn't stupid.
(A combination of the walnut trim you use and the drawer handles you put on made me look at a coffee can full of ebony piano keys I scored about 6 years ago, and have no idea what to do with. Hmmmm...)
hey bro, I like your new video format. I know you were frustrated with the views on the way you were doing things before, but just want to say that I think it's pretty dang smart that you were retrospective and insightful enough to figure out what was going on and adapt to the situation. Glad you're still pumping out content. Have been watching since you were a small channel. :)
Beautiful idea, I agree
Pure awesomeness . I also read your description and would have given 2 more likes, for it alone. That and the excellent video earned me as another one of your Subscribers ! 🙂
Very nice John!
I'm digging it John!
That is cool, really love that design
Everything you make is beautiful
Very cool idea!
What a clever idea John.👍👍
Pretty cool idea, John~!
Brilliant!!!
What a fantastic idea!! Good stuff man.
Love it man!