Shredder: “Who would avenge Yoshi after all this time? I killed all the witnesses.” A literal rat: “Not all the witnesses” *proceeds to mutate into a martial arts legend*
Splinter has a great arc that no other media has gone all in with. He literally bred the turtles to be warriors of vengeance with the sole goal to take down the shredder. When that goal was fulfilled, he realized that he had no more direction in life and dragged his sons down with him. He realized he was a bad father and tried to course correct the lives of his sons by letting them be their own selves while giving advice when appropriate.
It’s funny how some incarnations of the series have Hamato Yoshi mutated into a rat, while only three incarnations, this, the 90s movie and the 2003 series, have Splinter as a pet rat who happened to be as intelligent as his master, learning the secrets of Ninjutsu simply by mimicking his master’s movements. It’s honestly hard to chose which one I prefer more. One of them has Splinter essentially being on the same biological level as the Turtles, and makes him a more flawed master, giving him more character development. Meanwhile, the other has Splinter getting a second chance at having a family, having lost his previous family while he was still human.
In my head canon, I've always assumed that pre-mutation-pet-rat Splinter didn't actually mimic Yoshi from his cage. The mutation created false memories to give Splinter a sense of having been "raised" by Yoshi and to fill in the gaps in his memories to more match those of a sapient creature instead of a simple pet rat.
So you're saying Splinter was born and adopted by Homato Yoshi shortly before Shredder killed Yoshi, and when he was mutated, he was given false memories?
@@jakeproven256 That's my theory. Though I'd imagine he got splinter shortly after moving to New York, so he would have had him for a while when Oroku Saki shows up.
I love it as a pet owner. Damn my pet would train four ninjas to honor and avenge me. It’s cute and badass. It also makes the turtles even more underdogs. I like the family as mutant animals
@@rockmanmix6242 tmnt ain't realistic its a spoof parody on frank Miller samurai and ninja tropes that changed the land scape of comics such as introducing batman as karate Practitioner and changed his lore and gear into ninja culture same with his villain ras al ghul originally most likely an homage to berber moors of north africa with scimitars are now changed cause of the nolan movies into a ninja cult in tibet whos a huge white washed arab weeabo retcon combined with one of bats teachers ducard daredevil as a zatoichi ninja rather than a acrobatic boxer whos self taught with the same t.c.r.i ooze that made the rat and his adopted surrogate turtle sons and loyal swords at his hand to kill his owners killer amd clan anthropromorphsized givej the chance to do so and gave matt his sonar sense and abilities of gymnatic acrobatics parkour free running and tech to turn his walking stick into nunchaku escrima sticks bo staff and a grapple gun wolverine as a ninja samurai constantly involved in traveling back and forth the pacific theater rather than them just being boxer brawlers in tights and cheesy canon ninja samurai flicks of the 80s and the concept of turtles having the agility of Bruce Lee was just silly to kevin eastman and peter laird laughing at the western weeabo obsession with Japanese culture and was absurd to companies eastman and laird pitched their comic to for turtle mania to even occur because the stereotype that the lowly aquatic turtle are velocity challenged like the tortoise being violent trained assassins with the speed of slicing a guy inhalf with a sword was so it was rejected as such.
@@andagean also its making fun at the bushido samurai code and ninja tropes in eastern and western media with the cycle of revenge and that the turtles aren't clearly "the heroes in a half shell" the cartoon incarnation made them out to be censoring the violent spy assassin they are raised and known for the turtles are but just child soldiers drafted in a war with their only purpose is to full fill splinters selfish vendetta to fule the senseless cycle of revenge by killing oroku saki grieving over his rapist brother nagi And in a rudimentary way that's Japanese customs of bushido where you obey your masters wishes cause at that point foot ninja are just slaves to their lord/ retainer and must only serve as their clans sword which hamato yoshi violated the clans rule over nagi asserting his dominance over the clans kunoich/ concubines even tho yoshi was morally in the right we are talking about the politics of how the foot clan operates in criminal elements so trivial things as sexism descriminitory means nothing to a band of ninja Thieves drugs and arms dealers espionage and assassinators for hier.
@@thepoeticbutcher3370 in a world of dark ninja magic combined with science to ressurect a guy from a pile of worms that eat your chared exploded remains a guy opening up his own skull removing his own brain out his head and somehow putting said brain in a cyborg body time travelers vampires retired super heores and aliens that resemble brains and resemble earths styracodon and triceratop dinosaurs should not be taken seriously second rats are intelligent creatures and you must read tmnt odyssey and tmnt origin graphic novels to learn what splinter is
@@thepoeticbutcher3370 yea fiction doesn't need to be realistic, this series has always been full of wacky highjacks from its premise, but we suspend are disbelief anyways because its fun. A rat coming to fuck up his masters murderer sounds awesome.
Tmnt origin graphic novel reveals why splinter was so intelligent pre mutation and could mimick yoshis martial arts prowess skill and remember tang shen and yoshis murder at the hands of orroku saki via the celestial turtle who Donatello leatherhead drx april and Mariah seeks out to stop mirage ch'rell
1:48 yes especially if you remember that Bishop says that Splinter’s DNA is closely more human than the turtles and Leatherhead ever will be before he creates the Slayer who would be this the show’s Rat king and speaking of the Rat king when you get to the 1987 rat king would you mind adding in the theory that he is Vietnam veteran because since that version doesn’t have any supernatural powers to control the rats but instead with a flute so I guess he had a talent for before he was drafted into the Vietnam war because I could guess that his orange hair could be a reference to Agent Orange. That was wired when he turns into a bat and also did you know that Kevin Conroy the guy who voices Batman is dead?
Pet rat seems more logical to me because the turtles weren't taken seriously in their first comic because it's satire to ronin daredevil cerebus Howard the duck and you're not supposed to take the turtles seriously because eastman and laird thought of them as silly jokes from bad television and love for jack kirby
I disagree, I see it as lazy and a disservice to Splinter as a character. Don’t get me wrong, I love the 87 and 2012 versions of splinter, but the way I see it they are just Hamato Yoshi as a rat, not Splinter.
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Shredder: “Who would avenge Yoshi after all this time? I killed all the witnesses.”
A literal rat: “Not all the witnesses” *proceeds to mutate into a martial arts legend*
Splinter has a great arc that no other media has gone all in with. He literally bred the turtles to be warriors of vengeance with the sole goal to take down the shredder. When that goal was fulfilled, he realized that he had no more direction in life and dragged his sons down with him. He realized he was a bad father and tried to course correct the lives of his sons by letting them be their own selves while giving advice when appropriate.
Not so unrealistic. Which makes it interesting.
It’s funny how some incarnations of the series have Hamato Yoshi mutated into a rat, while only three incarnations, this, the 90s movie and the 2003 series, have Splinter as a pet rat who happened to be as intelligent as his master, learning the secrets of Ninjutsu simply by mimicking his master’s movements.
It’s honestly hard to chose which one I prefer more. One of them has Splinter essentially being on the same biological level as the Turtles, and makes him a more flawed master, giving him more character development. Meanwhile, the other has Splinter getting a second chance at having a family, having lost his previous family while he was still human.
It's funny that you forgot that the Michael Bay Splinter was also a rat. I forget about that whole universe sometimes too. 😛
Splinter/Yoshi is honestly better and makes more sense.
A pet rat that learned the arts of ninjitsu is less believable
It’s fiction, I don’t think it’s meant to be believable in a world of mutants, aliens, and time travelers.
@@daltonhead4572 it’s not meant to be 100% realistic for sure, but it’s way more logical anyways.
In what way? All you essentially get is Hamato Yoshi as a rat, no splinter at all.
The ooze probably extended his life
Ngl, I still prefer the 2012 Splinter. His story was just more consistent and filled with honour - and character development.
The first Splinter I ever saw was the one from the first live movie, where Splinter was Yoshi's pet. To me, that had always been the preferred origin.
In my head canon, I've always assumed that pre-mutation-pet-rat Splinter didn't actually mimic Yoshi from his cage. The mutation created false memories to give Splinter a sense of having been "raised" by Yoshi and to fill in the gaps in his memories to more match those of a sapient creature instead of a simple pet rat.
So you're saying Splinter was born and adopted by Homato Yoshi shortly before Shredder killed Yoshi, and when he was mutated, he was given false memories?
@@jakeproven256 That's my theory. Though I'd imagine he got splinter shortly after moving to New York, so he would have had him for a while when Oroku Saki shows up.
@@AustynSN I guess that works.
9:10 you got to talk about that since in the 2003 TMNT series it was Donatello who turns into a monstrous version of himself.
Cool comic version.
Hehe cute origin as rat who imitates his master.
God bless.
In my opinion, it's better that Splinter is pet rat rather than being Hamato Yoshi himself.
Exactly
I love it as a pet owner. Damn my pet would train four ninjas to honor and avenge me. It’s cute and badass. It also makes the turtles even more underdogs. I like the family as mutant animals
How? it’s not realistic
@@rockmanmix6242 tmnt ain't realistic its a spoof parody on frank Miller samurai and ninja tropes that changed the land scape of comics such as introducing batman as karate Practitioner and changed his lore and gear into ninja culture same with his villain ras al ghul originally most likely an homage to berber moors of north africa with scimitars are now changed cause of the nolan movies into a ninja cult in tibet whos a huge white washed arab weeabo retcon combined with one of bats teachers ducard daredevil as a zatoichi ninja rather than a acrobatic boxer whos self taught with the same t.c.r.i ooze that made the rat and his adopted surrogate turtle sons and loyal swords at his hand to kill his owners killer amd clan anthropromorphsized givej the chance to do so and gave matt his sonar sense and abilities of gymnatic acrobatics parkour free running and tech to turn his walking stick into nunchaku escrima sticks bo staff and a grapple gun wolverine as a ninja samurai constantly involved in traveling back and forth the pacific theater rather than them just being boxer brawlers in tights and cheesy canon ninja samurai flicks of the 80s and the concept of turtles having the agility of Bruce Lee was just silly to kevin eastman and peter laird laughing at the western weeabo obsession with Japanese culture and was absurd to companies eastman and laird pitched their comic to for turtle mania to even occur because the stereotype that the lowly aquatic turtle are velocity challenged like the tortoise being violent trained assassins with the speed of slicing a guy inhalf with a sword was so it was rejected as such.
@@andagean also its making fun at the bushido samurai code and ninja tropes in eastern and western media with the cycle of revenge and that the turtles aren't clearly "the heroes in a half shell" the cartoon incarnation made them out to be censoring the violent spy assassin they are raised and known for the turtles are but just child soldiers drafted in a war with their only purpose is to full fill splinters selfish vendetta to fule the senseless cycle of revenge by killing oroku saki grieving over his rapist brother nagi And in a rudimentary way that's Japanese customs of bushido where you obey your masters wishes cause at that point foot ninja are just slaves to their lord/ retainer and must only serve as their clans sword which hamato yoshi violated the clans rule over nagi asserting his dominance over the clans kunoich/ concubines even tho yoshi was morally in the right we are talking about the politics of how the foot clan operates in criminal elements so trivial things as sexism descriminitory means nothing to a band of ninja Thieves drugs and arms dealers espionage and assassinators for hier.
Splinter been through a lot over the years.
Yeah
This is a awesome story!
I like the idea of Hamato Yoshi transforming into Splinter
….yep, that makes more sense.
The Mutated Ninja Animals is wild enough..
@@thepoeticbutcher3370 it's not supposed to make sense cause it's a goofy parody
@@tyronleung5276 ….it’s supposed to make sense in the universe.
@@thepoeticbutcher3370 in a world of dark ninja magic combined with science to ressurect a guy from a pile of worms that eat your chared exploded remains a guy opening up his own skull removing his own brain out his head and somehow putting said brain in a cyborg body time travelers vampires retired super heores and aliens that resemble brains and resemble earths styracodon and triceratop dinosaurs should not be taken seriously second rats are intelligent creatures and you must read tmnt odyssey and tmnt origin graphic novels to learn what splinter is
@@thepoeticbutcher3370 yea fiction doesn't need to be realistic, this series has always been full of wacky highjacks from its premise, but we suspend are disbelief anyways because its fun. A rat coming to fuck up his masters murderer sounds awesome.
Tmnt origin graphic novel reveals why splinter was so intelligent pre mutation and could mimick yoshis martial arts prowess skill and remember tang shen and yoshis murder at the hands of orroku saki via the celestial turtle who Donatello leatherhead drx april and Mariah seeks out to stop mirage ch'rell
can you make a video telling the story of idw splinter
I will, but not sure when... In the meantime, the rest of November will be about IDW stories.
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Do you mind talking about TMNT Odyssey? It’s quite the interesting story. I personally call it “Crisis Of Infinite Shells.”
I have a video in mind for it, but it will require a lot of research (the video won't be specifically about Odyssey, but about its context).
1:40 what do you think happened to the students of the martial arts school?
Probably killed off.
where did you get tmnt volume four in color?
I colored those panels myself (digitally) when I did the Rat King video, as I felt black and white wasn't clear enough to depict certain moments.
When are you going to make a video about splinter from idw comics from tmnt idw?
It's hard to tell when I will make that video. But it is in the list.
1:48 yes especially if you remember that Bishop says that Splinter’s DNA is closely more human than the turtles and Leatherhead ever will be before he creates the Slayer who would be this the show’s Rat king and speaking of the Rat king when you get to the 1987 rat king would you mind adding in the theory that he is Vietnam veteran because since that version doesn’t have any supernatural powers to control the rats but instead with a flute so I guess he had a talent for before he was drafted into the Vietnam war because I could guess that his orange hair could be a reference to Agent Orange.
That was wired when he turns into a bat and also did you know that Kevin Conroy the guy who voices Batman is dead?
Rat DNA is closer to human DNA in real life (that is why he said it).
Yeah, I heard about Kevin Conroy's passing. He will be missed.
@@TheTurtleNexus I thought apes were closer to humans?
@@srstriker6420 Rats and Mice have lived with humans long enough to be genetically closer (they eat what we eat and they tend to live near us).
@@TheTurtleNexus well I know that but could you say the same for cats and dogs?
@@srstriker6420 I am not sure. But there is a reason we experiment mostly with rats (unless it's something that comes from apes).
prefer the pet rat on the path of revenge, never been a fan of the reincarnation angle
So where is the original Splinter?
It is very likely that the original Splinter is in the Battle Nexus. But maybe one day it will get confirmed.
Personally prefer when hamato yoshi and splinter are the same person
It gives much more nuance and depth to the character
Pet rat seems more logical to me because the turtles weren't taken seriously in their first comic because it's satire to ronin daredevil cerebus Howard the duck and you're not supposed to take the turtles seriously because eastman and laird thought of them as silly jokes from bad television and love for jack kirby
I disagree, I see it as lazy and a disservice to Splinter as a character. Don’t get me wrong, I love the 87 and 2012 versions of splinter, but the way I see it they are just Hamato Yoshi as a rat, not Splinter.
Not a fan of this voice over.
Who is your favorite narrator in this channel?
@@TheTurtleNexus the guy with the raspy voice, that sounds like Dave from the channel "Order of the Greenhand"! Definitely the best!
@@TheTurtleNexus the Japanese guy
@@TheTurtleNexus yall ought to do dramatic reading audio motion comics of the mirage books one day please